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#46 | Michael White · Corpus Christi Originals Podcast

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SPEAKER_02: What's going on, y'all?
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SPEAKER_02: Corpus Christi Originals back at it again.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh coming to you live from the Purdue's uh Stream Lab Studio here in downtown Corpus Christi, Texas.
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SPEAKER_02: We got uh lead guitar co-host, uh Zayn Sanchez and Michael White.
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SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
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SPEAKER_01: What's going on, Michael White?
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SPEAKER_01: What's going on?
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SPEAKER_01: Dude, happy that you're here.
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SPEAKER_01: Glad that you're here.
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SPEAKER_01: Tell him what give us a nice man.
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SPEAKER_01: Appreciate the candy.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no problem, dude.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so you're originally from Corpus, uh, Michael White?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um.
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SPEAKER_00: I've been here since I was five years old.
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SPEAKER_00: Um I was born in Florida, Pensacola.
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SPEAKER_00: But my mom took me away from my father because he was an abusive person.
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SPEAKER_00: So uh so we moved to Texas and uh and she didn't use and she didn't have any money, so we were we were living house to house.
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SPEAKER_00: I was going to like three elementary schools a year.
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SPEAKER_00: To the best of my knowledge, like three elementary schools a year.
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SPEAKER_00: So I was always the new kid, always getting bullied, especially in the 90s.
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SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_00: It was crazy.
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SPEAKER_00: Um And she didn't use because she didn't use the excuse um she didn't use being poor as an excuse to to leave a you know an abusive relationship.
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SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_00: She wasn't one of those people.
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SPEAKER_00: She didn't use being scared or being poor as an excuse.
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SPEAKER_00: There's uh she's living proof that there is no um justification for women to stay stuck in a toxic relationship.
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SPEAKER_00: If Harriet Tubman can run away from the plantation, you can break up with your boyfriend.
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SPEAKER_02: Crazy.
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SPEAKER_02: So so you is your mom still around?
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SPEAKER_00: No, she's still around.
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SPEAKER_00: It's just uh um so we were going through we were going through that shit, we were going through struggling.
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SPEAKER_00: I was uh growing up with babysitters.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh my main babysitters were in uh my main babysitter was in Molina and Treyway, Golfway Manor, back when it was the hood.
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SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_00: 97, 96 type shit.
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SPEAKER_00: Um so those were my main babysitter right there.
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SPEAKER_00: That's where I was going to every day after school on weekends.
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SPEAKER_00: If I wasn't at the Boys and Girls Club on Greenwood, you know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_00: Um what's it called?
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SPEAKER_00: Uh um.
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SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_00: So like we were going through all this shit until she until we was just going through this struggle until she met my stepdad.
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SPEAKER_00: And um and my stepdad uh didn't like uh the kind of uh we didn't see eye to eye because we were different cultures.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_00: So culture clash, I guess the nice way to put it.
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SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, traditional Hispanic, you know, that doesn't like uh rap music, you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_00: Like traditional Hispanic, like from Mexico Hispanic or not like traditional as in like um uh uh don't don't bring those mayate to my fucking house, like that kind of traditional like that but but in person it'd be like real cool my friend like hey what's up man hey what's up he's in his room he's in his bedroom and then when he leaves I don't want them fucking in my house crazy bro but uh yeah he just he he just he just didn't he's not like that now like he's he's really different now like when we when we see each other like after the divorce he really changed you know so but uh during that time it was like um I think for about three years I was um I was living on the we were on the south side of town uh during that time when uh for I was there for like three years and uh living in a house on the south side you know Barra Creek and um from like I was living there for like 13 years old till like uh 16 that's when I moved to my grandma's house on Northside uh because um yeah because he would he was like I would wake up every morning listening to him like yell at my mom like uh you need to send his white trash ass back to his white trash father in Pensacola Florida like every morning I would hear that like he would repeat that every fucking day yelling at her and she's crying and like I'm scared to get out of my bedroom so it was like I had to I beg my mom I was like I want to live with my grandma on Northside even though it's like the shittiest fucking place to live like her her duplex she had like a little duplex on Noasis Bay Boulevard and um fucking uh and she lived like she lived everywhere she always moved you know what I'm saying I lived with her on 6th Street before you know I lived with her like she's always fucking moving like she's real paranoid and shit like when she hears gunshots she thinks like moving down the street be better place you know what I'm saying I'm chuckling because we live I live on 6th Street right now yeah I was there when I was seven years old yeah at the uh those little fucking brick apartments right oh on uh Elizabeth or uh no right there on 6th Street of where Lisa's taco place used to be right there and then behind it is the fucking uh I remember celebrating my birthday on that street and I was seven we walked to me and my grandma walked to the uh 7-Eleven for the icing and cake and shit I still remember that um she still was she yeah she yeah she she she just she moved to Brazil oh yeah I remember I remember you mentioning she moved she moved uh she moved to Brazil um so so anyways um so because I just didn't so I didn't technically get kicked out I know my mom always like tells me like we never kicked you out we never kicked you out because like uh you know when I talk about living in the streets she gets mad because you know uh she because it sounds like I'm I got kicked out I didn't get kicked out I just didn't want to live like that I didn't want to be somewhere where I wasn't welcome yeah and uh you know what I'm saying so um so 16 I went I went to Northside and I was still going to King High School uh when I was living with my grandma because she didn't know how to check me into Miller high school that's why I never checked in there so I was taking a B bus to fucking King High School every fucking day and um and what's it called uh and I and I was mainly like like I was mainly like living I I want to say I was really like running the streets by 15 you know what I'm saying because I'll be I'll be out I'll try to my my number one mission was to stay away from that house you know I'm saying like I was scared to be there you know I'm saying so I'm running the streets I'm going to different hoods that I knew uh you know homie homies that I met at the rap battles growing up in Tequila Boom teen nights and city skates teen nights you know what I'm saying so I'm out there like going to different hoods hanging out with my homies on west side north side you know what I'm saying trailway fucking you know what I'm saying everywhere and I'm I'm spending the night over there as much as I can I'm like yo I'm like hey I'm gonna spend a night over here like and she knew why I wanted to spend a night I'm trying to I don't want to be there she's like say okay as long as you as long as they're okay with it no so I'm always like spending the night so I was already kind of like on my own in the streets and shit by 15 but I want to I always say 17 really because that's when I was really like really out there.
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SPEAKER_00: That's when I start 16 is when I I first my first time sleeping on somebody's porch because uh because I told her uh that was one of the times where like even when even when I uh even when I couldn't spend a night at somebody house I would tell her hey somebody's letting me spend a night and that's how much I just wanted to be away from there I slept on somebody's porch you know I'm saying and uh and so by 17 like I was like really just out there out there like bus stops and everybody's couch you know I'm saying everybody you know and it was easy for me living in the streets and and you know spending night crashing at people's places because you know I'm not a thief you know I'm I'm not a drug addict I don't drink all I focused on was music battle rapping you know what I'm saying and uh you know I'm saying just trying to pursue my dreams and shit and everybody knew that so you know I didn't get looked at like oh man can't have him at my house you know I'm saying he's dirty you know what I'm saying so yeah did you so I want to go back to talking about your so your dad did you develop like a um was it difficult for you to make relationships with other Hispanics in town because your stepfather was that way would you say that no um all my pot all my homeboys was either masculine or black it was hard for me to meet white friends because because of who I was you know what I'm saying because of your your reputation as a as an MC or um I just couldn't meet I just I I didn't really have I still don't really have white friends like I don't know a white friend I can just go to his house and show up that's funny man that's like I'm I still don't know anybody I can just what you know I mean yeah I usually I started meeting white people through Facebook really like funny and and when I started going to Austin Texas for the comedy shit yeah you know I'm saying I gotta like I'm there's nothing but white people there to fucking sign up for Kill Tony show.
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SPEAKER_00: Right you know what I'm saying at the in Austin Texas so like I'm like I'm just now like you know finding out what whites being like you know what it's like to be white you know what I'm saying and your last name is white I was never somebody that like oh because this person of this color did something I'm gonna be mad at every other person that looks like him like no I was never like that I was just uh you know what I'm saying because because all my Mexican partners were just like me you know what I'm saying all my black partners were just like me so um you know I just stayed away from those kind of people that were closed minded.
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SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_00: And I would run into people that reminded me of you know him I'd be like oh okay you you be best friends when I stay there later but like I said he cool now like we we cool now like when whenever I see him now like when he like once a year I'll see him on on a holiday or something uh at my mom's house and I only go to my mom's house like on holidays because I don't see how uh her new husband either he's kind of the same way like but uh he but he keeps it cool for her you know what I'm saying it's one of those things where like I'm walking on eggshells and I gotta make sure this dude doesn't like talk crazy to me.
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SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_00: So uh I try to stay I don't I never got to really have a good like a real relationship with her other than just kind of on the phone type shit.
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SPEAKER_00: Nah because I I try to stay I try to make sure I don't ruin nothing you know what I'm saying like because I especially uh I mean I'm trying not to get too deep into it you know what I'm saying because I I don't like I don't like opening wounds on other people like I try to I'm trying to talk about just myself but it's hard to do that without mentioning the world around me you know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_00: But uh so you can have an understanding of who I am like I have to bring shit like that up I hate doing that you know what I'm saying but uh is it is so you mean open like open a wound like meaning you don't want uh you know I I don't want to be where like people have like people have to feel like they fucking I mean just to you know um it's just really what it is just you know I don't want to just talk about other I hate talking about other people you know what I'm saying like I I try my best not to bring them up but if I have to like to help you understand like the answer to my life you know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah but yeah I think I'm kind of the same way in a sense uh because I don't like to talk bad about people but when I'm talking to them about them like it's like oh well that this is the reason why I don't hang out with them or I don't you know associate them or whatever.
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SPEAKER_00: But I think I think after the divorce my step my original stepdad like really changed.
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SPEAKER_00: Like he's like you know I think he like really became like a more open-minded person like he would be like what's up man hey uh I heard you doing good on your rap like like back in the day it was I couldn't it was forbidden like if he found out I was at the studio if my mom was on my on her way to take me to the talent show uh to a 102.9 the bomb talent show and he found out he would yell at her and then she would have to turn him back around and drop me back off at home like I would have to sneak to rap battles without them without him knowing like it was really hard for me to pursue my dream like I was really like crying every night like they used to have a rap contest on a a freestyle contest on a station where like two people could rap and people call in and and and pick the winner one time I finally made it through and he was home I was like fuck so I had to like fucking whisper.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean I had this is what I did before he came home from work this is how hard it was to pursue my dream before he came home from work I had a rap re uh pre-record my rap on a fucking talk boy the home alone talk boy shit and I I I spit a rap on there I called the fucking station I put the thing up to the phone so they can hear my rap because he came home when it was time for the for the freestyle it was like 7 p.m 8 p.m type of thing or 9 p.m and so so he was home I had to use the talk boy I was like hey uh is it cool about uh but I mean can I be one of the contestants for the race yeah go ahead spit some and I was like alright and I play it and it kind of sounded good on the radio you know what I'm saying funny man but like that's what I was going through like I it was really forbidden for me to you know do that shit he really hated that culture and it was you know and my best friends were you know my best friends were black and Mexican and like and what I also mean by traditional Mexican like he didn't like other Mexicans either that were like uh that were hip he just didn't like hip hop you know what I'm saying like that kind of that kind of you know thing I wonder why is is there like a like a stigma with that between like hip hop and he he they he used to make uh they used to kind of because he kinda he kind of like manipulated my mom too into thinking it was a bad thing.
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SPEAKER_00: So they they used to think like oh this is the reason why you're getting like C's in fucking school or or you're failing or why you got detention or you know this hip hop is the reason why this happened you did this and you know what I mean and she well I don't know it's it's almost it seems like so it wasn't it wasn't really like a racist thing it was more of a prejudice.
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SPEAKER_04: Think about it like we grew up on metal and everybody that they were like oh that's Satan that's causing me to do that.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah I guess it was like that like like how parents were with rock music back in the day like like oh you listening to you listening the letters of a Van Halen I don't know whatever the fuck you weren't allowed to listen to.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not it's not a like a black or white virtue thing it's a cultural thing in general so do you think he was doing that just like because it because he had a because he had he had a black friend but because he was just like him so that's why they were friends.
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SPEAKER_00: So he wasn't racist it was just culture thing.
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SPEAKER_02: That's interesting that's awesome man.
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SPEAKER_00: So you mentioned uh what was it saying so you mentioned you were in the in the uh battle rapping and all that stuff since what age was it 14 13 years old uh I uh in that neighborhood ironically uh I I met uh my best friends my two best friends were black and we were always uh and and they were um fucking uh like we would it was the it was the SUC swisher house era yeah so like we would everybody would be at my home I had a homeboy named Sebastian we all be at his house yeah because it's like his dad would be like in his bedroom in the bedroom and like we just kind of like were allowed to do whatever the fuck we want like his place was the place to be so like we play he would play instrumentals on Linewide and uh oh yeah RIP to his pops yeah um shout out to Stalin he owned a uh a salon I don't know if any you know if y'all remember that there was a a salon called Stalin Stalin salon uh so yeah his son was my best friend and they got me into rapping um so I would um they would play the instrumentals from the computer and we would just be freestyling all day like like uh you know Texas type shit you know I done came down like we would rap we would rap it like that we made little tapes on karaoke machine and then like and and they were the kings of the fucking uh Rodney uh Rodney my other homeboy that would come over that was our best friend as well um he go by uh uh GHK Abu um he's one of the local artists out here um he's still doing it yep um yeah but uh so so he would um he was like he was older than us he was like 15 and I was like 13 but like at that time you know 15 was old and like OG shit to me you know what I'm saying I was like we so I looked up to him you know what I'm saying and uh so you know and he was like the king of the freestyle kind of at the skating ring and uh I would always go and I was the only one that didn't like go up there and rap and uh I remember somebody push uh somebody pushing me on my shoulder you know joking with me like go up there and do your Moby shit like you know what I'm saying because I was like the only white kid at City skates there might have been like one other one if you if you looked hard enough but uh and so you know it was the white jokes you know about and they knew that was my partner so they they were kind of joking with me like why don't you go out there your boy doing it wow and that it kind of inspired me like man I can fucking do this shit I ain't no fucking Moby wow you know what I'm saying and then uh so by 2001 the first week of 2001 because that was the year 2000 like the last week of 2000 and then uh and then the first week of 2001 I came I was like I was like hey y'all doing a freestyle contest today he's like yeah we'll do it we'll do it today and uh because at first they weren't really they kind of did it every now and then it wasn't like an every Friday thing I made it an every Friday thing because every Friday I would come I was the only one that went would go up to the DJ and be like please do a freestyle contest today I'm I'm ready I wanna I want to spit again yeah and he's like all right man we'll do it you know we don't usually do it every week but you know since you you know y'all y'all seem like it it's it's uh it's becoming successful you know what I'm saying and they would like to play the south side beat yeah you know what I'm saying that was our shook ones you know what I'm saying yeah uh up north they do the little sugar one beat hey shit Corvus Texas Southside beat that was the freestyle beat yeah every fucking week now you know what I'm saying yeah yeah and uh and then I became really good by 14 that's when I started like I still remember a line let me give you an example of how good I was I think this is pretty good I said uh I said you need to wipe your face off with a bunch of oxy pads your teeth look like a traffic jam of New York taxi cabs you know what I'm saying like that was that that I remember that bar because I remember that blew everybody away like everybody was like ah you know what I'm saying if you just knew how to like insult somebody and rhyme that shit like you went they went crazy you know what I'm saying that's amazing and uh yeah so I just I just can't that's but my first week my first time performance when I uh uh rap battling was when I knew like this is what I want to do and uh how I became uh how I got into battling was I'll get to that I know you want to uh know about that uh so the freestyle contest it how it works is everybody sign up and the best two have to have to battle that's that's the that's the next round first round just spit a rap second round you have to battle so you had to do it you know what I'm saying so I had to I had to know how to and so in a bat in a rap you know what I'm saying so so like because I would always end up in that round I would always end up in that fucking that battle round so I was uh so that's kind of what got me into battling was having to you know make making it to that round you know what I'm saying did you ever write anything down or was it all from the head uh I've always been more of a I wrote in my head um I never came I never came to the um to the contest with um with nothing with nothing written with nothing ready you know what I'm saying and being a kid shit that's pretty good because I knew a lot of my friends around that age that were fucking uh having having like MC West write for him or some you know one of the OGs OG local rappers write for him you know what I'm saying I'd be like man wow you you got him writing for you that's fucked up I don't even I write my own shit you know what I'm saying so um that was a big deal to me because I even Lil Bow Wow like I hated little Bow Wow because he was like the same age and I found out that Jermaine and Pre were writing for him and all that shit and I like I like man they need to sign me I write my own shit yeah you know what I'm saying yeah so yeah I might not I might not been too good at like off the dome shit but I I knew how to write my own shit.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah yeah yeah man dude that's fascinating to me how you can just keep it all in your head bro because my memory sucks I think that's another reason why I don't drink a smoke but the reason I don't drink a smoke is because because uh you know hip fire was my drug that's what kept me that's why I don't know why um parents would trip him it's like man this is keeping me off the off selling and and doing them because I was selling CDs uh by the time I was 15 I made that an actual job because Subway wouldn't hire me because y'all wasn't 16 so I was like I like bet and I turned that into a rip I first saw my C D uh at 14 when I I did a song at Q Productions Selena's uh family studio uh Kentania Productions I didn't know that I didn't know that was I didn't know that was their studio wow it's at a okay price around that time so um I did this I did a song there and I would sell that like at the mall and at the skater ring but by 15 I had like a a four song five song CD and that's when I was hitting the streets like I was I was going to every hood every Walmart I was walking I just felt like that's what you had to do to blow up because it wasn't really no internet right so I was like man this is what I gotta do blow us I gotta do this so I'm just like uh check me out I had the headphones like listen to the real quick before you say anything listen and I was making money because it was like three dollars a CD it was burnt CDs written on it right you know what I'm saying nice man wow so you started selling CDs and you figured out that Walmart Walmart is there a certain Walmart that you shop at uh I would I would sell CDs at uh the Greenwood I made a lot of money at the Greenwood the uh man I would say the west side I made the most money right right because the west side was has has money and love it might not have the most money and it might not have the most love but it was a great balance because the north side had love.
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SPEAKER_00: Had no money.
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SPEAKER_00: South side had money, but they don't have no love.
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SPEAKER_00: So I mean so West Side was like my sweet spot.
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SPEAKER_00: Airs or Greenwood.
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SPEAKER_00: That was my sweet spot.
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SPEAKER_00: Like that's where they was.
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SPEAKER_00: I was making money.
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SPEAKER_00: So I was always around there.
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SPEAKER_00: You always saw me over there most of the time.
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SPEAKER_00: And I got kicked out of the Greenwood Wamai like every day.
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SPEAKER_02: Did you go in the store like and show me?
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SPEAKER_02: Or were you outside?
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SPEAKER_00: When you used to be able to play music from the uh in the electronic section with the uh with the CD players to see if you want to buy the CD player or not, I would put my music in there and I would just walk around like, hey, you like that song?
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SPEAKER_00: That's me.
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SPEAKER_00: Only three dollars.
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SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_00: Only three dollars.
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SPEAKER_00: And uh, and then I'll be outside selling in that little fucking the little boot in the uh in the car uh driving around making it.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh, the security guy?
22:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the security.
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SPEAKER_00: He would pull over and be like, You can't see, you can't be selling CDs over here.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And uh, and I'd be like, it's my stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: Like I used to think like, like, why why is it a problem?
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SPEAKER_00: It's my shit.
22:57
SPEAKER_00: I'm not bootlegging nobody's shit.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, I started learning, okay, it's because you know it's it's loading because you're taking money from them spinning in there.
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SPEAKER_00: But I'm like, well, they don't they don't sell my uh people don't come to Walmart to buy Michael White CDs.
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SPEAKER_00: They're gonna come in there to buy a fucking towel, they're gonna still buy the towel, they're not gonna fucking just buy my CD and be like, fuck, I can't buy the towel.
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SPEAKER_00: So I don't understand the concept of running people off with selling CDs.
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SPEAKER_02: So did did you write your own music or did you have somebody write your music for you?
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SPEAKER_02: Or how did how did you?
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SPEAKER_00: I always wrote I always wrote my own music.
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SPEAKER_00: You wrote it?
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SPEAKER_02: No, seriously.
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SPEAKER_00: And and uh I made my own beats.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh like uh there'll be people that that that'll give me a beat and I'll do that.
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SPEAKER_00: And then there's beats I'll grab from the uh from mainstream rap and wreck the beat, but uh but most of it, most of the original shit is my beats.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Because I I was making beats around the same, I was keep playing the keyboard at the same time.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: I started rapping.
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SPEAKER_00: Like 13, I think.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I got a keyboard.
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SPEAKER_02: Did you take a class or you just learned it on your own?
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SPEAKER_00: No, I asked my mom for a guitar for Christmas and she couldn't afford it.
24:01
SPEAKER_00: So she got me.
24:02
SPEAKER_00: So she got me a keyboard that has a guitar section.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, right, right.
24:06
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, ain't this a bitch so much?
24:08
SPEAKER_00: I'm playing the guitar and it just sucks.
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SPEAKER_00: Right on the keyboard.
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SPEAKER_00: And then my homeboy comes over and he starts playing the side side beat.
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SPEAKER_00: My black homeboy, he just starts fucking wrecking on the percussion.
24:18
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, man, you gotta teach me how to fucking do that shit.
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SPEAKER_03: Man, that's awesome.
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SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
24:22
SPEAKER_00: And uh, and so he taught me how to do the side side beat, the boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
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SPEAKER_00: So I started with that, and then I started just uh, and then he taught me how to do Mary Had a Lil' Lamb.
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SPEAKER_00: So I did that and a side side beat.
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SPEAKER_00: And then I started just listening to music on the on the radio, and I would try I would imitate what I hear, and I'll be like, okay, mm-mm.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: I just find the key.
24:44
SPEAKER_00: And that's how I learned how to make music, just by uh learning how to hum something.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, I would hum what I heard and then try to find the key, boom, boom, and then I'll start playing it.
24:54
SPEAKER_00: And then um, and then I eventually started humming my own my own thoughts, you know, uh, and then did that.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's how I learned how to write my own music.
25:04
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how to read it, you know what I'm saying?
25:06
SPEAKER_02: That's dope, man.
25:07
SPEAKER_02: So so I I guess eventually you find you got the drums, you got the bass.
25:11
SPEAKER_02: Put through power.
25:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, hell yeah, bro.
25:12
SPEAKER_02: So what's so that's your acronym?
25:14
SPEAKER_02: What's up with that?
25:15
SPEAKER_00: Uh the reason I call myself and my fans putos and putas, because that's what uh that's what you get treated like for staying true to yourself.
25:24
SPEAKER_00: Um, but you get praise for following trends instead of creating your own and being scared of what society thinks instead of only fearing God.
25:31
SPEAKER_00: So if that's what they call real, then call me a puto players undermining their ops.
25:38
SPEAKER_00: And uh and my photas is princesses undermining their adversaries.
25:43
SPEAKER_02: Puto power.
25:45
SPEAKER_02: Damn, that's awesome, bro.
25:46
SPEAKER_02: I love that, man.
25:49
SPEAKER_02: Adversity, like sticking to the trend.
25:51
SPEAKER_02: I was thinking that about earlier today, man.
25:53
SPEAKER_02: I was like, if you stick to the trends, they're just gonna come and go, bro.
25:56
SPEAKER_02: But if you stick to the things that that are actually good, I was telling my brother one time we re we used to write music together.
26:02
SPEAKER_02: If you write good stuff, it's gonna be a rap though.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: And Corpus, nobody wants you to know that you're talented, handsome, pretty, smart, anything good about you, they will not tell you.
26:14
SPEAKER_00: So we had to learn on our own what our worth is.
26:17
SPEAKER_00: But it helped us become independent thinkers because we couldn't rely on anyone else keeping it real with us but ourselves.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: And just because 99% of what we uh just because 99% of what we have to say about Corpus is negative, also is 99% the reason we knew how to overcome that adversity.
26:37
SPEAKER_00: Uh, that's what separates the players from the player haters.
26:40
SPEAKER_00: It's a tough city, only the strong survive.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: And real motherfuckers know how to embrace that negativity and extract the positive from the seed of the rotten apple.
26:51
SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Crooked Christie.
26:53
SPEAKER_02: Man, bro, it's everywhere too, man.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: I can't stand it either, dude.
26:57
SPEAKER_00: It's almost like I can't stand it, but I I appreciate it because if I was like from Minnesota or Wisconsin or something, I wouldn't be this smart, intelligent, and strong.
27:08
SPEAKER_00: I had to grow up in a uh in a in a city that's surrounded by a lot of bitch ass people to become what I didn't want to be.
27:16
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
27:17
SPEAKER_01: So you become what you didn't want to be.
27:19
SPEAKER_01: I mean, become what I didn't want to be.
27:21
SPEAKER_01: But uh does that make sense?
27:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it makes sense.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: That's why I was talking, I was gonna have you elaborate.
27:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so like so basically not become like them, would you say that?
27:30
SPEAKER_02: Like those two types of Yeah, I I guess peeping game, like, damn.
27:34
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't want to be that kind of person, you know what I'm saying?
27:36
SPEAKER_00: Like, growing up around around people you don't want to be like helps you like, you know.
27:41
SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you a real if you just if you're just born with that real mindset, like if God just bless you with that fucking uh as an empath, really, you know what I'm saying?
27:49
SPEAKER_00: Like, it's easy to fucking to make your own decisions for your for your own character, you know what I'm saying?
27:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I feel like I feel like it uh our society wants to suppress it, not only here in corpus, but like like the school system, bro.
28:05
SPEAKER_02: Like I I want to say the school system's made for a certain type of person, which when I was in school, I wasn't that type of person.
28:11
SPEAKER_02: Like I did they try to put me, you need to be like this, you need to be like that.
28:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, no, like every time I try that, it it doesn't feel right for me.
28:20
SPEAKER_02: Do you understand what I'm saying?
28:22
SPEAKER_02: So it's either like, all right, well, if you're not gonna be like this, then we're gonna cast you out.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: And and when people that's why when people say, uh, people always tell me all the time, like, man, why you still rap Corbus?
28:32
SPEAKER_00: They don't even, they don't even, man, they don't show you no love, man.
28:34
SPEAKER_00: You need to be repping Austin, they show you love over there.
28:36
SPEAKER_00: Like, nah, I'm not gonna rep, I'm not gonna rep Austin or another city just because they show me more love.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
28:42
SPEAKER_00: Because that's not what made me who I am today.
28:44
SPEAKER_00: Austin ain't who I made me who I am today.
28:46
SPEAKER_00: Corpus made me who I am today.
28:49
SPEAKER_00: So, so like you know what I'm saying?
28:51
SPEAKER_00: And that's why Austin loves me.
28:54
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
28:55
SPEAKER_00: If I was from Austin, Austin wouldn't love me.
28:57
SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be this person that they love.
29:00
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
29:01
SPEAKER_02: Man, it's I find that fascinating how you just you kind of like you flipped it on it.
29:06
SPEAKER_02: You flipped it in the sense that you were like, nah, I'm not gonna be downtrodden because of it.
29:11
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna actually make something of it.
29:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just like you can't hate, you know, I feel like you can't hate your city, just like you can't hate, you know, what your what your parents put you through.
29:19
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
29:20
SPEAKER_00: Because it made you like if you love who you if you love yourself, you love who you are, then you gotta appreciate everybody in your life.
29:28
SPEAKER_00: Everybody, no matter who the fuck it is.
29:30
SPEAKER_00: Haters, you know what I'm saying?
29:32
SPEAKER_00: Lovers, anybody.
29:35
SPEAKER_00: And that's why, and that's when I realize that's when I realized that you should forget that's why you should forgive everybody.
29:42
SPEAKER_00: Because it was supposed to happen.
29:43
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
29:44
SPEAKER_02: That's huge, bro.
29:46
SPEAKER_02: That's huge, and it's very difficult to do uh to forgive somebody that has harmed you or hurt you in any way.
29:54
SPEAKER_02: And like and and to not go be able to go around and be like, yeah, I forgive you, but I still from a distance, you gotta you're still over here, huh?
30:02
SPEAKER_00: It's because they don't understand uh people say that because they don't understand how much of an impact uh that you know how much of a positive how much of an impact that was towards them in a positive manner.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: A blessing in disguise.
30:20
SPEAKER_00: They didn't they don't see the blessing in disguise.
30:22
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
30:22
SPEAKER_00: I know how to I know how to take a mask off or something and be like, okay, yeah, but you know what I'm saying.
30:27
SPEAKER_02: Do you so you mentioned like you mentioned God, you mentioned forgiveness, like are you a religious person or how do you view that approach to that?
30:34
SPEAKER_00: Spiritual.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: Um I I uh I don't I don't know I believe um you know when you know growing up you gonna when you're a kid, you're gonna believe whatever the whatever your mom tell you, you know what I'm saying?
30:46
SPEAKER_00: And it's and if and if you wanna but keep believing that as as an adult because you don't want to disrespect moms or your parents or your or your family tradition, then that's what's up.
30:57
SPEAKER_00: But uh but me, you know, I I grew up uh wanting to make my own decision on that.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: I was like, all right, well, okay, this is what I grew up on, but let me but then I thought of it like this, okay, well what if I grew up in fucking uh Afghanistan?
31:12
SPEAKER_00: Like I would I wouldn't be a Christian over there, I'd be a Muslim, you know what I'm saying?
31:16
SPEAKER_00: What if I grew up over here in Jerusalem or wherever Jews be at?
31:20
SPEAKER_00: I'd be I'd be studying that Jewish shit, you know what I'm saying?
31:23
SPEAKER_00: But uh so like I'm so I look at it like this, I'm not gonna be just I'm not gonna be this just because I'm from here, you know what I'm saying?
31:30
SPEAKER_00: Where like this is where everybody is, this is what everybody is over here.
31:33
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna look into it and see what makes sense to me.
31:37
SPEAKER_00: I want to see why why do they worship deal?
31:39
SPEAKER_00: Why do they worship why really it's just uh I don't believe in religion in general, I just believe I believe there's a higher power because I believe I I seen karma, I seen karma happen.
31:49
SPEAKER_00: So I believe in karma, I believe in destiny, I believe in fate, you know what I'm saying?
31:54
SPEAKER_00: Like I believe in shit that happened for a reason, and there's somebody controlling that shit.
31:58
SPEAKER_00: I don't know his name.
31:59
SPEAKER_00: You can say if you think you know his name, cool.
32:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, if you think his name is this, a la, or you think his name is Jesus, cool.
32:06
SPEAKER_00: I don't know his name.
32:07
SPEAKER_00: I feel personally don't want to disrespect him by calling him the wrong name.
32:10
SPEAKER_00: So I'm just gonna say God.
32:13
SPEAKER_00: So that's just my personal belief.
32:15
SPEAKER_02: So at what age did you start, like I guess, researching on your own and figuring that out?
32:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh man, you know what made me realize what I really am is someone that you know I I kind of just um I would say 2015, uh I started getting into numerology.
32:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh I started seeing numbers follow me around too much to where like it made me want I didn't know what numerology was.
32:38
SPEAKER_00: I didn't know that these things, uh, that there was cultures that used these things to help them uh that guided them through their journey.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: And uh so I looked it up and I was like, oh, okay, so that's I looked up, like, why do I keep on seeing this number?
32:52
SPEAKER_00: And then and then like it told me, and then I would like I found a good source where it really explained what I was going through.
32:58
SPEAKER_00: Cause some of the source is gonna be silly and shit, like, oh you're happy.
33:01
SPEAKER_00: It's because you're gonna have a happy day today.
33:02
SPEAKER_00: Like, you know what I mean?
33:03
SPEAKER_00: You gotta like find the real shit.
33:05
SPEAKER_00: And then like, and that's what I did.
33:07
SPEAKER_00: I found like an I would find like a nice source, and I'll be like, and I started just you know, typing in the number like that that would fuck with me, and it would always be what it was, and and you know, and so numerology is something that helps me, you know, get through get through my journey, you know what I'm saying?
33:23
SPEAKER_00: And it tells me when I'm fucking up and when I'm like, you know, when I'm doing right and when I need to fucking go on a diet, like shit like that.
33:32
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
33:33
SPEAKER_00: So that's how that's my that's how I have my relationship with God, you know what I'm saying?
33:37
SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure there's religions that be like, that's the devil, you're talking to the devil.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I'm like, if I'm talking to the devil, then he pushed me the wrong way, yeah.
33:44
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
33:46
SPEAKER_02: So was moms Catholic, or uh do you do you know?
33:49
SPEAKER_00: I think I don't I don't I know I know uh she might I think she's uh man Christian or Catholic.
33:57
SPEAKER_00: She might be Christian, but I think she grew up Catholic, but she's Christian.
34:01
SPEAKER_00: I I grew I went to when I was going to church when I was a kid, I was always going to black churches with my homeboy.
34:05
SPEAKER_00: Like I'll be like, I'm gonna go to church with my friend, and like okay, and it was always like a Baptist church.
34:10
SPEAKER_00: So I grew up in a Baptist church, you know.
34:13
SPEAKER_00: Which one?
34:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, on the north side or I don't know.
34:15
SPEAKER_00: Uh I it was like so many different churches.
34:18
SPEAKER_00: I was always I was always the person that had to stand up when the preacher be like, all right, uh, I think we have a few guests here tonight.
34:25
SPEAKER_00: Um uh please stand and uh introduce yourself.
34:29
SPEAKER_00: And I'll just sit there like this, hoping that he doesn't recognize and doesn't recognize me being someone like just call me a night, bro.
34:36
SPEAKER_00: And he just kept on saying it like like he knew there was a guest.
34:39
SPEAKER_00: He was looking right at you, like he knew that he knew there was a guest here tonight.
34:42
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Nope, no guest here tonight.
34:45
SPEAKER_00: And he's like, come on, stand up and I'm like, No, he ain't gonna stop in my hallway, but like, just get up and stand up, bro.
34:51
SPEAKER_00: And he whispered in my head, they asked you why you can't, just say because you want to get saved.
34:55
SPEAKER_00: I was like, what does that mean?
34:56
SPEAKER_00: He's like, just say it.
34:57
SPEAKER_00: I was like, all right.
34:58
SPEAKER_00: And I stood up, like, hi, Michael, and uh, hey, bro, uh I'm Michael White, hey brother White, and then um, and then uh why why did you uh what brings you in here today or whatever?
35:09
SPEAKER_00: Uh uh the house of God.
35:10
SPEAKER_00: I was like, to get saved, and everybody's like, why?
35:15
SPEAKER_00: I was like, what the fuck does that mean?
35:20
SPEAKER_00: I was always uh it was always like it was always those churches.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: I was always at those churches, you know what I mean?
35:27
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, uh so we got uh somebody in the live chat, Chris Garcia.
35:30
SPEAKER_02: He says, Michael White, the comeback.
35:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
35:32
SPEAKER_00: Oh, really?
35:34
SPEAKER_02: So I guess that's that's right there.
35:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I guess that's uh what having to do with uh what you coming back as a comedian or what do you think?
35:41
SPEAKER_00: I'm not a rapper or a comedian, I'm an entertainer.
35:44
SPEAKER_00: Um I I don't I don't limit my talents like uh I just I I just got into comedy uh bec uh more because um because I was fun, I was always funny in my raps.
35:57
SPEAKER_00: I was I've been uh I've been retarded since third grade.
36:00
SPEAKER_00: Like when I first started learning what you know with you know you know with bad words, like fucked up crazy shit.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
36:09
SPEAKER_00: I was just hyper, I was always hyper, you know.
36:11
SPEAKER_00: I was on Riddling at five years old.
36:12
SPEAKER_02: So you so hold on you so hold on so you said you've been you've been retarded since the third grade?
36:17
SPEAKER_02: Do you you really mean that when you say that?
36:18
SPEAKER_00: Like or I feel like I think third grade is when I don't know, was it second grade?
36:22
SPEAKER_00: No, but okay.
36:23
SPEAKER_00: I think third grade was when I really started being retarded.
36:27
SPEAKER_00: It couldn't have been second grade.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: But I I don't I don't I from the best of my knowledge, I remember third grade when I just started like not caring what people think about me.
36:36
SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay, okay.
36:37
SPEAKER_00: And I didn't care, I didn't care like if I embarrassed myself or looked retarded in your eyes, you know what I'm saying?
36:42
SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay, okay.
36:43
SPEAKER_02: So I would say like being yourself basically yeah, being myself.
36:46
SPEAKER_00: But people call that retarded.
36:48
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so okay.
36:49
SPEAKER_00: So I'm just uh you know, I'm helping them understand what I'm talking about, those people that call it that.
36:54
SPEAKER_02: Wow, crazy.
36:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because you know the way I act like, oh, you're retarded.
36:58
SPEAKER_00: Like, okay, cool.
36:59
SPEAKER_00: That's what you that's what you call it, and that's what it is.
37:01
SPEAKER_02: So do you see, do you sense it?
37:03
SPEAKER_02: Seems like whenever I watch your videos and stuff, it seems like you sense when people are being like that towards you.
37:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh what?
37:09
SPEAKER_02: Like where they'll call you where they're like thinking that you're retarded, you're stupid, and and you react certain way.
37:14
SPEAKER_02: Would you say that you do that?
37:16
SPEAKER_04: Can you sense it easier through people that uh that are judging me?
37:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
37:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh oh yeah, man, I can uh I can tell when I walk at the Jersey Mics and a guy the way uh the way the dude's telling me hello and I can just see it in his eyes that like he fucking um like he's like just judging me.
37:32
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
37:33
SPEAKER_00: I can hear I can hear your I can hear you j I can tell you hate me through your handshake, you know what I'm saying?
37:38
SPEAKER_00: Like now hey, what's up, man?
37:40
SPEAKER_00: How's it gonna go?
37:41
SPEAKER_00: No, you hate me.
37:45
SPEAKER_00: I know you hate me.
37:46
SPEAKER_00: You know, uh it's really I think it's a street smart thing, man.
37:49
SPEAKER_00: I'm uh being out there in the street for five years until I uh I was in the street for five years without a car, so that's like a lot of walking.
37:57
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
37:58
SPEAKER_00: And I was always in in the in the hood, like when I say homeless, man, I wasn't like just homeless on fucking sitting on Everhardt Street holding his own.
38:05
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm in the hood when I was homeless.
38:07
SPEAKER_00: I'm in different I'm at trap houses.
38:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm at fucking, I'm I'm out there peeping game on real street shit.
38:14
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
38:15
SPEAKER_00: I was out there with everybody, just doing my thing.
38:18
SPEAKER_00: So I was this I sold C D.
38:19
SPEAKER_00: They sold Craig, they sold, they did their thing, I did my thing.
38:23
SPEAKER_00: I was the rapper.
38:24
SPEAKER_00: They were the trapper, you know what I'm saying?
38:26
SPEAKER_00: And um, and I just uh you know, uh I I learned a lot of I learned a lot from from them because you know I grew up with a lot of real people and a lot of bitch ass people.
38:39
SPEAKER_00: And um, and that's what really helped me uh realize when somebody's a bitch ass person.
38:46
SPEAKER_00: Um by uh well I mean I mean a fake person, you know.
38:50
SPEAKER_00: Uh I can realize somebody's a fake person just by, you know, because I I because I I've had a lot of you know fake people that seemed real and then and then the fake came out.
39:01
SPEAKER_00: So now like it's easy for me to see that even though you seem real, you remind me of a motherfucker who seemed real and then and then the fake came out.
39:09
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
39:10
SPEAKER_00: So that's that's what I learned from the streets, you know, and that's that's why it's easy for me to I guess to see that in someone that's not even being like that right away.
39:20
SPEAKER_00: Like I might I might slip up a few times, like damn, I didn't know you, I didn't know, like I didn't know you would ever.
39:25
SPEAKER_00: Hey me, that's crazy.
39:26
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
39:27
SPEAKER_00: Like maybe like some something super successful I did or whatever, and then like just come out of nowhere talking shit and being jealous about it.
39:32
SPEAKER_00: Like, damn, I didn't see that coming.
39:34
SPEAKER_00: I usually see it coming.
39:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm a human though, you know what I'm saying?
39:37
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, uh that's what I mean by Kesla, but usually I can tell, like I can always tell by like, you know, I'm becoming internet smart too, like my using my street smarts to the internet.
39:49
SPEAKER_00: Like I could tell when you say something slick in a comment, and I'll be like, okay, maybe it is a joke, and then I'll go to the reactions and see if you at least like the post.
39:57
SPEAKER_00: So if you didn't like the post, I'm like, okay, you really do hate me.
40:01
SPEAKER_00: Like I could tell it says a lot about your character.
40:03
SPEAKER_00: You say something slick, because people some people uh will will say something slick behind a joke, but you know, but say it in a joking way to mask the hate so they don't look like a bitch ass person.
40:14
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
40:15
SPEAKER_00: Of course, nobody's gonna come out and just be a bitch ass person.
40:18
SPEAKER_00: They're always gonna they're gonna put a mask on it to where it looks real.
40:21
SPEAKER_00: Like, oh man, no, you tripping, and try to gaslight you, like, nah, man, you tripping.
40:25
SPEAKER_00: I ain't me, I ain't mean what you thought I meant.
40:28
SPEAKER_00: But action speaks louder than words and and vibes and vibes of everything.
40:32
SPEAKER_00: And uh, but yeah, uh I fucking that that's that's some real shit.
40:38
SPEAKER_00: Like just when you post something and somebody leave a leave a comment, you feel like it's kind of funny, like, oh man, he being funny.
40:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like uh uh let me go, let me go see if he liked it.
40:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh, he didn't like it, yeah.
40:46
SPEAKER_00: Man, he yeah, he don't like me.
40:48
SPEAKER_00: I'm blocking him.
40:51
SPEAKER_02: Do you feel like you own it?
40:52
SPEAKER_02: You uh I got several stuff, man.
40:54
SPEAKER_02: Crazy.
40:55
SPEAKER_02: Uh do you feel like you're you at you overanalyze uh or do people tell you that?
41:00
SPEAKER_02: Because I feel like I'm like that.
41:01
SPEAKER_02: Like some people.
41:02
SPEAKER_00: What situation?
41:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, some people will always tell me, man, you just thinking about it too much.
41:06
SPEAKER_02: Just stop thinking about it.
41:06
SPEAKER_02: Like I tell him, I tell him that all the time.
41:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
41:09
SPEAKER_04: I'd be like, hey, what do you want to do?
41:10
SPEAKER_04: And he'd be like, Oh, I don't know.
41:12
SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, dude, just pick something.
41:13
SPEAKER_04: Stop overthinking it.
41:14
SPEAKER_00: I I did that a lot in a studio growing up.
41:17
SPEAKER_00: Um I I recorded Metropolis recording studio since I was uh 15.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: Um and uh I used to always like redo a song every fucking day.
41:28
SPEAKER_00: I would it would take me like months to get the song right, and then until I until like I stopped, uh that was like one of my biggest over-analyzing analyzations uh is doing that.
41:39
SPEAKER_00: And uh I'm finally at this point where like I'm like uh I don't do that shit no more.
41:44
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I'll just I'll just do what it is, and then if it fucking if it's cool, it ain't broke, don't fix it.
41:50
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
41:51
SPEAKER_00: I just let it be what it is.
41:52
SPEAKER_00: Like look at the flaw.
41:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm I I learned how to look at flaws for uh look at the beauty inside of flaws, you know what I'm saying?
42:00
SPEAKER_03: Nice.
42:01
SPEAKER_00: Like uh you know, like Pox said, the rose that grew from the concrete, you know what I'm saying?
42:06
SPEAKER_02: Nice.
42:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, speaking of that, man, we were talking about that.
42:10
SPEAKER_02: What are your like your your influences?
42:13
SPEAKER_00: I mean uh definitely Texas rap before it became mainstream.
42:18
SPEAKER_00: Um like uh when I was growing up, like the mixtapes like the the little flip was big to us.
42:26
SPEAKER_00: And um and the color changing click, that was like boy, that was like the uh that was like the Texas D12.
42:35
SPEAKER_00: Well what I mean Texas.
42:37
SPEAKER_00: Oh, they were like the Texas D12, man.
42:38
SPEAKER_00: The color changing click, come in now, come in now, Paul, uh, you know, all them, all them people that was on there, like that was like, you know, that's that's what made, you know, of course, like Eminem kind of, you know, was an inspiration in a sense of like, oh, okay, it's cool to uh it's okay to to it's okay to rap.
42:59
SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, it's uh he really he really opened that door to where like it's okay to rap as long as you're good.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
43:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
43:06
SPEAKER_00: And um, because he at first you had to be like super phenomenal.
43:10
SPEAKER_00: And then he broke that door down with that phenomenal shit, and now it you don't you know you don't have to go through really what he went through.
43:18
SPEAKER_00: Like it's still it was still hard.
43:19
SPEAKER_00: I I was getting booed off stage every Friday for a while in 2001 at the skating ring uh because I was white.
43:26
SPEAKER_00: Um and and I always knew it uh it was because of that.
43:30
SPEAKER_00: Because when I would get off stage, like it looked like it seemed like the whole place was booing me.
43:34
SPEAKER_00: But when I'll get off, like I'll go to the bathroom or something.
43:36
SPEAKER_00: People would go to me, like, hey man, they just hating on you because you white, man.
43:39
SPEAKER_00: You did your thing.
43:40
SPEAKER_00: And the DJ would be like, the DJ would talk shit to him, he'd be like, Man, shout out to DJ Fresh.
43:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
43:45
SPEAKER_00: Uh he uh he he was the uh the owner of uh Fresh Cuts.
43:49
SPEAKER_00: Uh I mean, was it Fresh Cuts?
43:51
SPEAKER_00: Um over there, he opened up a barbershop in the bluff called Fresh Cuts, I think.
43:55
SPEAKER_00: I think it was called that.
43:57
SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, his name's DJ Fresh.
43:59
SPEAKER_00: And uh And he moved to Chicago now.
44:02
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, he would stand up for me.
44:04
SPEAKER_00: He'd be like, he'd be like, man, y'all trippin', man.
44:07
SPEAKER_00: He he be he just as good as Lil Flip.
44:08
SPEAKER_00: And y'all hating on him.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: Cause, you know, I I kind of rap like Lil Flip.
44:11
SPEAKER_00: You know, I'd be like, I done came down.
44:13
SPEAKER_00: And I had like some, I had some like uh humorous.
44:15
SPEAKER_00: I was I had humor I was always a humorous person.
44:17
SPEAKER_00: Right.
44:18
SPEAKER_00: So even when I was like, I done came down, mainhouse, I was still, I still like wanted to be funny, you know what I'm saying?
44:24
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
44:24
SPEAKER_00: And uh, but yeah, uh, I would say, man, Comillionaire, Zero, uh, Magno, the the the underground Texas rap scene, man, before 05, that was my biggest inspiration.
44:36
SPEAKER_00: You know, Lil Kiki Pimp C Big Mo.
44:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, just all of that.
44:44
SPEAKER_00: The the screw tapes, the Switch of House tape.
44:46
SPEAKER_00: I used to spend my lunch money on screw tapes.
44:48
SPEAKER_00: Uh bootleg screw tapes, because there'll be kids bootlegging the screw tapes.
44:51
SPEAKER_00: It'll be like$3 for like one of the little Maxwell tapes with screw music on it.
44:56
SPEAKER_02: Which side of time, so which side of time with other tapes?
44:58
SPEAKER_00: Uh everybody, man.
45:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think everybody was doing that.
45:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:01
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: Um so so you were saying that.
45:04
SPEAKER_00: Like, like tech corpus, you man, like, man, Corpus used to be an all-around, uh like all around hip-hop.
45:12
SPEAKER_00: Like, it was all around hip hop uh back back in the day.
45:15
SPEAKER_00: Like now, it's it's really getting super gent gentrified now.
45:19
SPEAKER_00: Gentrified?
45:19
SPEAKER_00: What do you mean?
45:20
SPEAKER_00: Like uh, did I say it right, gentrified?
45:24
SPEAKER_00: It sounds like a good word.
45:25
SPEAKER_00: No, like it's just getting like it's getting you know that like it's changing.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: They're killing the cult the city is killing the culture.
45:32
SPEAKER_00: Okay, you know, they're you know, the like, you know, for example, they're kicking everybody out of north side and yeah, I wanted to ask you about that, bro.
45:39
SPEAKER_00: Destroying the culture.
45:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
45:40
SPEAKER_02: I was talking about that on the last podcast.
45:42
SPEAKER_02: How how do you feel about the the basically Hill Christ Northside?
45:47
SPEAKER_00: I think it's uh I think it's crazy that any for anybody to believe that people needed to move out of uh move out of that neighborhood for the harp for them to build the harbor bridge because I don't see nothing from that harbor.
46:03
SPEAKER_00: I don't see nothing from that harbor bridge going over that neighborhood where they had to move out of that neighborhood.
46:08
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
46:09
SPEAKER_00: That was the original reason.
46:10
SPEAKER_00: I remember.
46:11
SPEAKER_00: I remember on the news, they're talking about like, oh, we have to we have to build it, we have to we have to build over the neighborhood, so we have to have everybody move up.
46:18
SPEAKER_00: They ain't fucking they didn't do nothing, and I don't see no freeway over there.
46:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so uh that's what that's that's gentrification right there where they they gonna they gonna give you they gonna give they're gonna tell you these lies on why they do this, why they do that, and then you see it right there.
46:36
SPEAKER_00: That's gentrification.
46:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
46:39
SPEAKER_02: And I was thinking like, well, that culture there, where's it gonna be at now?
46:42
SPEAKER_02: Which side of town is it gonna be at?
46:44
SPEAKER_00: Man, it's like it's everywhere now.
46:45
SPEAKER_00: And exactly what's so fucked up about it is a lot of these people, you know, from that culture are gonna start losing.
46:55
SPEAKER_00: They're gonna start losing that shit because they're in now they're in different cultures and and it and it's kind of you know we're around place, you know, we're in we're around places where you can't really embrace that culture because there's people in that neighbor that don't like that shit, you know what I'm saying?
47:12
SPEAKER_00: So you're not gonna it's gonna be harder to have like facilities and places and neighborhoods and you know, events where like everybody can agree on this right here because the whole fucking city's mixed up now.
47:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but but hopefully, I don't know.
47:29
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
47:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I hear you, man.
47:31
SPEAKER_02: It's almost like that culture.
47:32
SPEAKER_02: Like I was thinking that too.
47:33
SPEAKER_02: It's scattered, like you got the people that were in Hill Northside or everywhere else, and they're in their interracial relationships, start mixing, you know what I mean?
47:42
SPEAKER_02: And then it's like, dude, that that was the culture that they had.
47:45
SPEAKER_02: You know, they would have the park meeting on Easter time, you know what I mean?
47:49
SPEAKER_02: Where everybody would show up there.
47:50
SPEAKER_02: I found out about that to my my driving school teacher, man.
47:54
SPEAKER_00: When I was a kid, I used to go out there and freestyle at the Hillcrest Park uh on Easter Sundays.
47:58
SPEAKER_00: I remember I was 17 years old.
48:00
SPEAKER_00: Uh uh when when Willie Nichols was uh was huge on the radio around that time, and he had uh the song called The N-Word.
48:07
SPEAKER_00: And um, and he was he was performing at Hillcrest Park that day.
48:12
SPEAKER_00: I was 17, I forgot what year.
48:14
SPEAKER_00: It might have been 04, 05.
48:16
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
48:16
SPEAKER_00: And uh and I said I went up to him and I said, hey man, uh, can I open up for you?
48:22
SPEAKER_00: And um he's like, uh, I don't think he really knew me yet.
48:26
SPEAKER_00: He might have, I don't know.
48:27
SPEAKER_00: But uh, because I mean I know my generation knew me from you know the from the brat battles and shit.
48:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
48:33
SPEAKER_00: You know, Tequila Boom and City's case.
48:35
SPEAKER_00: So like like West, I know a lot of people knew me.
48:38
SPEAKER_00: You know a lot of people were talking about me because it was, you know, the rap battles was real big back in the day.
48:42
SPEAKER_00: And I was one of the, I was one of the top, you know, battlers, you know, in that scene.
48:48
SPEAKER_00: And uh, but anyways, I was like, yeah, he was like, yeah, uh, he's like, he said, you gotta ask the uh, I think he told me to ask the sound man or some shit like that.
48:56
SPEAKER_00: So I went up to the sound man and I was like, I was like, hey, uh, um, is it cool if I rap on a mic before Willie go up?
49:03
SPEAKER_00: He said he went, he said he ain't tripping.
49:04
SPEAKER_00: He said, yeah, go ahead.
49:05
SPEAKER_00: So I spit an a cappella and raked that hoe.
49:08
SPEAKER_00: And then I gave the mic to Willie, and then he wrecked those songs that he had had on the radio.
49:13
SPEAKER_00: Um, shout out to Gotti Gang.
49:15
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know what I'm saying?
49:16
SPEAKER_00: And uh and I remember the next day I was at the stable station, or uh the north north stable station, uh and and uh after school, and I remember everybody from Miller getting off the bus, coming up to me, and and one of them telling me, hey man, uh uh everybody at school talking about you.
49:36
SPEAKER_00: And uh I was like, what they saying?
49:38
SPEAKER_00: He's out they saying that uh they saying Willie Nichols and some white boy erected yesterday.
49:43
SPEAKER_00: So like, you know, I was I was like really out there pushing myself, you know what I'm saying?
49:48
SPEAKER_00: And and man, we we ain't gonna have some shit like that again, man.
49:52
SPEAKER_00: If this shit continues, you know, but that's every city's really doing it.
49:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking every city's kind of trying to do that shit.
49:58
SPEAKER_00: That's what the government do.
49:59
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
50:00
SPEAKER_00: Damn.
50:01
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
50:02
SPEAKER_02: So you get you get into that a lot of that government stuff, would you say?
50:05
SPEAKER_00: Uh uh, not too much.
50:07
SPEAKER_00: Let's let's try uh let's try to keep it cool so I don't get blacklisted.
50:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I got you.
50:12
SPEAKER_00: I'm not uh yeah, yeah.
50:13
SPEAKER_00: I thought it was sad too.
50:14
SPEAKER_00: I'm not fine, I'm not famous enough to um to get cancelled yet.
50:18
SPEAKER_00: Gotcha.
50:19
SPEAKER_00: Let me let me get there first.
50:20
SPEAKER_02: It's cool you think about that though, man.
50:21
SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
50:22
SPEAKER_02: So how do you find yourself marketing your marketing yourself?
50:25
SPEAKER_02: Well, I guess I don't know if that's the right term on social media.
50:27
SPEAKER_02: You were because you mentioned that earlier, how you were just like looking at people's comments and stuff like that.
50:31
SPEAKER_00: I'm not scared to um I'm not I'm not scared to become a meme.
50:35
SPEAKER_00: I think that's why I'm one of the most, uh, if not the most uh successful, arguably arguably in uh in this city.
50:44
SPEAKER_00: Um because I'm not scared to be a meme, you know what I'm saying?
50:48
SPEAKER_00: Because I'm I'm not uh because I'm not scared to be me.
50:51
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
50:52
SPEAKER_00: Like I'm not scared to be made fun of for being me.
50:55
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
50:56
SPEAKER_00: As long as you're making fun of me for being me, cool.
50:58
SPEAKER_00: I ain't tripping.
50:59
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
51:00
SPEAKER_00: And uh, and I think that's what a lot of rappers there's a lot of rappers.
51:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, not I wouldn't say okay, I would say I think that there's a lot of rappers that that'll post their shit and put it and put it on friends only.
51:12
SPEAKER_00: So they scared.
51:14
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
51:16
SPEAKER_00: Or they won't post it in this group page where they'll get a whole bunch of views and go viral because they scared somebody gonna leave a bad comment.
51:21
SPEAKER_00: Cause that because that page, they leave bad comments on your shit.
51:24
SPEAKER_00: Fuck that.
51:25
SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
51:26
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
51:27
SPEAKER_00: Because uh, and that's why that's why I'm I'm one of the most successful.
51:31
SPEAKER_00: I I ain't gonna say I'm the most talented.
51:33
SPEAKER_00: I'm not I'm not saying that.
51:34
SPEAKER_00: I'm the best, or I'm not saying I'm the best, I'm not saying the most talented in corpus, but I am the most not give a fuck in corpus.
51:39
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
51:40
SPEAKER_00: And that's why I'm one of the most successful, because I'm not fucking scared to be uh ridiculed.
51:46
SPEAKER_00: Basically, let me let me let me put it let me put it like this: when nobody likes you, you learn to embrace your talents more than most.
51:54
SPEAKER_00: You learn to not care what nobody thinks about you because you're already not liked, and there's nothing you can do to be like that's worth walking on eggshells for.
52:01
SPEAKER_00: Hence, you don't mind the risk of losing a rep that you never had during the process of achieving success.
52:06
SPEAKER_00: Once you accept it, not being accepted, your mind opens doors to your most original characteristics, and that leaves you with all the time in the world to focus on your talent and be the most consistent.
52:15
SPEAKER_00: Why do you think the cool people don't make it as much as the losers?
52:18
SPEAKER_00: Because when you're losing, all you got on your mind is winning.
52:23
SPEAKER_02: Nice man.
52:24
SPEAKER_02: Wow, that's awesome, dude.
52:26
SPEAKER_00: I really like your your outlook and this, man.
52:28
SPEAKER_00: And people, and that's the problem.
52:30
SPEAKER_00: People are too are too worried about being cool.
52:33
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
52:34
SPEAKER_00: And that's why they're not as far as I am, because that being cool matters to them.
52:39
SPEAKER_04: That's definitely the right attitude to have, though.
52:41
SPEAKER_04: I mean if you're if you're so worried about what people are gonna say.
52:45
SPEAKER_04: You're never gonna you're never gonna want to do anything.
52:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think that'll mess with society too.
52:49
SPEAKER_02: Like if you're just worried about being cool, I mean it'll mess with society, like overall.
52:55
SPEAKER_02: I mean, look how it is, how social media is right now.
52:58
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I have this, I have that, and behind the scenes, it's not that's not really.
53:02
SPEAKER_00: That's how people that's why it's so hard to make a music video too nowadays because uh because like people don't want to become uh you know become a meme or be screenshotted and somebody put a mustache on their lip or something.
53:12
SPEAKER_00: I don't fucking know.
53:13
SPEAKER_00: Like it's fucking hard now.
53:15
SPEAKER_00: You know, back in the day it used to be easy to fucking like everybody wanted to be in the video, you you know, you know, during the camcorder days, like, oh there's a camcorder, I want to be in the brother.
53:25
SPEAKER_00: But now that but now that uh that shit gets posted everywhere, nobody wants to be in front of oh shit, and everybody like this now.
53:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, could you ever look on TikTok and then you run into them videos like uh uh how life was in 1993 and they're at Blockbuster or something, and they're just like filming people in their fucking face, like strangers, and they don't give a fuck.
53:42
SPEAKER_01: They're like some of them are like uh they don't do that shit no more, and I just like get the fuck out of my face.
53:47
SPEAKER_04: You're not turning me into a mean our privacy.
53:51
SPEAKER_00: That's why it's hard, it's hard to make it's hard to make videos, man.
53:54
SPEAKER_00: Like that's it, like when I made that make it black video with Bloody Lou, that shit was so hard because it's just I mean, it's it's it's really hard to get people to participate in a video, man.
54:03
SPEAKER_00: They scared.
54:04
SPEAKER_00: Especially a Michael White video, like oh man, I don't know, man.
54:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna get fucking talked about.
54:08
SPEAKER_00: That's why I salute Bloody Lou, man, because he he don't give a fuck either.
54:12
SPEAKER_00: He one of them rappers that don't give a fuck.
54:13
SPEAKER_00: And that's why he became so uh, you know, he he got a big buzz.
54:17
SPEAKER_00: Cause he didn't give a fuck.
54:18
SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm gonna work with my Michael White, one of the most, you know, that's his mentality.
54:22
SPEAKER_00: Michael White, one of the most uh uh one of the most biggest artists in the city, but I'm gonna fuck with him.
54:26
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
54:27
SPEAKER_00: And like, you know, and he a solid dude.
54:29
SPEAKER_00: When you a solid dude, you don't care, you can you can uh you can do you can do uh uh something with somebody, you can make music with somebody that uh that has a different you know personality than you and not and not be uh judged for it, you know what I'm saying?
54:45
SPEAKER_00: Like, or even give a fuck about being judged for it because you know who you are, you know what I'm saying?
54:49
SPEAKER_00: Is it difficult to find people like that these days?
54:52
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, man.
54:52
SPEAKER_00: That's why I appreciate them when I do.
54:54
SPEAKER_00: I really appreciate them.
54:56
SPEAKER_00: I only got I only know a few that are like that don't give a fuck, they that know who they are, and uh, you know what I'm saying, and don't need somebody else telling them who they are, you know, when they're you know what I'm saying?
55:08
SPEAKER_02: Man, that's awesome, bro.
55:10
SPEAKER_02: And you've been known that, how long have you been known him?
55:13
SPEAKER_02: Uh what's his name?
55:14
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Bloody Lou.
55:15
SPEAKER_00: Uh Bloody Lou, yeah.
55:16
SPEAKER_00: Man, I don't know, it's been uh it's been some years.
55:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh maybe about four years, five, four, five years.
55:23
SPEAKER_02: Kind of recently.
55:24
SPEAKER_00: But he knew my he knew my best friend for like uh uh pretty much as long as I know my best friend, you know what I'm saying?
55:30
SPEAKER_00: Because uh went to the same school.
55:32
SPEAKER_00: My best friend TZ, you know what I'm saying?
55:34
SPEAKER_00: He from Northside and uh and I know he he known him back in back in the day too.
55:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh T uh TZ and his and his uh TZ and his mama, they they kind of like when I was like, you know, not accepted at home and shit, you know, TZ mama, mama Ira, she was my uh pretty much my my you know you know the uh my pretty much my mama when I was in the streets, you know what I mean.
56:00
SPEAKER_00: Did she cook for y'all?
56:01
SPEAKER_00: Oh man, I remember when we lived at when she lived at Slage West.
56:04
SPEAKER_00: And I remember uh be out there being out there in the streets all day, hustling and shit, and then coming back, man.
56:10
SPEAKER_00: She had some good food on the fucking on the fucking nice.
56:12
SPEAKER_00: I missed that shit.
56:13
SPEAKER_04: That's whole food.
56:14
SPEAKER_04: Nah, bro.
56:14
SPEAKER_00: And she knew how to make some engeladas too.
56:16
SPEAKER_00: Oh you know, uh, you know, you know, black people know how to cook masculine food in corpus.
56:25
SPEAKER_02: My brother's friend Lamar, man.
56:26
SPEAKER_02: I remember he stayed the night one time and he was like, Let me show you how to cook some bacon, bro.
56:30
SPEAKER_02: How do you make it the right way or whatever?
56:32
SPEAKER_02: And anyways, it's a cool relationship I had with him.
56:35
SPEAKER_02: I actually got introduced to uh Screw through him.
56:37
SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
56:38
SPEAKER_02: Uh uh uh My Mind Goes Blank.
56:39
SPEAKER_02: I think that's the room that I really remember.
56:41
SPEAKER_02: Uh or I think it's 25 Ladders on my dress.
56:44
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I thought you met Screw.
56:45
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, no, introduced to the music.
56:51
SPEAKER_00: And I'm a metal guy too, so my brother wouldn't do that type of stuff.
56:55
SPEAKER_00: I started becoming like uh every every genre guy uh when rap started sucking.
56:59
SPEAKER_00: Like when that mumble rap era started coming in and I just couldn't stand the radio no more, I would change it to the oldie station of rock and roll.
57:07
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh, they got some good songs on these stations, and that's when I started realizing like, oh, I like other music.
57:13
SPEAKER_00: And mumble rap helped me do that, it helped me wow, bro.
57:16
SPEAKER_00: Helped me fall in love with other.
57:17
SPEAKER_00: So thank you, Mumble Rap.
57:19
SPEAKER_03: Thank you, Mumble Rap.
57:20
SPEAKER_00: Helped me realize that, you know.
57:22
SPEAKER_00: And if you if you really, if you hip hop, man, you gotta fucking listen to other genres because that's what hip hop is.
57:26
SPEAKER_00: Hip hop is about reinventing, you know what I'm saying?
57:29
SPEAKER_00: Reinventing shit.
57:31
SPEAKER_00: And that's what that's what hip hop did.
57:32
SPEAKER_00: They grabbed disco and turned it into hip-hop.
57:35
SPEAKER_00: And that's that's what so that's why I like I feel like you want to be the most original rapper ever, man.
57:40
SPEAKER_00: Don't listen to rap, listen to OD's, listen to fucking rock.
57:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then you know, come up with your own hip-hop ways of doing what you were what you hearing from that, you know what I'm saying?
57:52
SPEAKER_00: Cause that's just not in hip hop, you know what I'm saying?
57:54
SPEAKER_00: You turn that into hip-hop, hip hop's already a hip hop, you know what I'm saying?
57:57
SPEAKER_00: So you keep evolving it, yeah.
57:59
SPEAKER_00: Evolving it and changing it.
58:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man, that's awesome, dude.
58:02
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, that's awesome.
58:03
SPEAKER_02: So we got like 56 minutes, man.
58:05
SPEAKER_02: Damn, it went by fast, bro.
58:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, shoot, that's awesome, man.
58:09
SPEAKER_02: Uh, well, you got anything else to share, Michael White?
58:12
SPEAKER_00: Um I know you I probably do.
58:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man, I've been I'm uh I have two episodes on Kill Tony show.
58:20
SPEAKER_00: That's really been pushing me a lot.
58:22
SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm getting I'm I'm actually getting white people famous off of that show.
58:27
SPEAKER_00: So uh your song too ADPT.
58:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that I'm I I fucking I wrote that song in 2013 and then like I redid it this year because uh I performed it on Kill Tony and everybody leaving comments like I want to hear what's the video and I was like man I didn't like the old video, the old song.
58:44
SPEAKER_00: So I redid the song, redid the video, and then I put it out like it's new.
58:48
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
58:49
SPEAKER_00: That's another thing rappers need to stop being scared of, man.
58:51
SPEAKER_00: They're scared to put out old songs because their friends already heard and they might make fun of, like, oh you already put that shit out, man.
58:55
SPEAKER_00: There's millions of billions of other people that need to hear your shit.
58:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
59:00
SPEAKER_00: Fuck the motherfuckers, yeah.
59:01
SPEAKER_00: Stop worrying about them, man.
59:02
SPEAKER_00: It it's it's your shit.
59:04
SPEAKER_00: You can do what you want with your paintings.
59:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you painted that motherfucker.
59:07
SPEAKER_00: Who cares what how many copies you make of that motherfucker that still put it out?
59:10
SPEAKER_02: Dude, that's a top, man.
59:12
SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah, bro.
59:13
SPEAKER_02: So you you distribute your own music?
59:15
SPEAKER_02: Do you use uh distro kits?
59:17
SPEAKER_00: I heard that.
59:17
SPEAKER_00: I used to, man.
59:18
SPEAKER_00: I used to go to fucking uh I used to go all over different places to do shit.
59:23
SPEAKER_00: Um I used to go to I remember in 2009, I used to go to Gilly's record still and ask him to burn my CDs because he would do the CD covers for me and the fucking uh Freddie Records took a picture for me.
59:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh Steve, I think that's his name, when he used to be one of the main runners over there.
59:39
SPEAKER_00: He took a picture uh for me for my cover for the one of my make one of my uh mixtapes in 2009.
59:45
SPEAKER_00: And um, yeah, like I used to I used to run everywhere.
59:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, then when I heard about like fucking going uh found some phone numbers where you can call California and they'll fucking push your shit up, and then I started having them you know mail me shit.
59:58
SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, I was doing all that shit.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_00: And then I started then I started doing the sp you know the spaghetti hustle because you know the CDs things was kind of dying out.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_00: But the CD hustle, but you know, my music helped me become uh a brand.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_00: I wasn't just selling music, I was selling my name, I was selling me.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_00: So I'm now I'm able to sell whatever, you know what I'm saying?
1:00:18
SPEAKER_00: So by 2020, you know, my ex from Italy uh taught me how to make spaghetti and and uh I thought it tasted so good.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_00: I was like, man, it's just money right here.
1:00:27
SPEAKER_00: And I remember she was she was like, she like no Michael, you're nothing to go to sell the spaghetti.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_00: You need to get a real job, you need a real job.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_00: I was like, nah, I'm really famous in my city, like because she just came from Italy, so she didn't know how big I was.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_00: I was like, bro, I could sell this, I could sell this shit.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_00: And uh, I was like, I like look, let me let me spend uh let me spend$50 on the$50 one time on this shit, and if I don't fucking make no money, I won't do it again.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_00: She like, okay, make it and then uh so I bought I bought the I bought it and doubled the double the money I spent.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_00: And she's like, and then she let me fucking do that as my job.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, she it was never something she wanted to do, you know, she didn't want to fucking be a part, she wanted to work, continue working at her at her own job, whatever.
1:01:08
SPEAKER_00: So people saying like, oh, you stole her recipe.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, man, she didn't even want to do this shit.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
1:01:13
SPEAKER_00: It's just something she taught me how to fucking do, and I saw I saw I saw some I saw money in that shit.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
1:01:20
SPEAKER_00: And then so that became my new hustle after CDs.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
1:01:24
SPEAKER_00: And I do that when I when I need uh I do and I don't and I now I only do I used to do like every day, like I was just hustling, hustling, hustling, but then I realized man, I didn't, I wasn't making time to write music, to create uh content, to edit music videos.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_00: It takes me hours to edit videos, to you know, go live and entertain my fans, promote myself.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_00: You know, so now I only I only do the spaghetti hustle shit when I I really need to, like I need to pay a bill or something, you know what I'm saying?
1:01:48
SPEAKER_00: So I don't need to pay a bill, then I'm gonna work on my content, you know what I'm saying?
1:01:52
SPEAKER_00: And you know, have my fans, you know, send me money, you know what I'm saying?
1:01:55
SPEAKER_00: Fans that appreciate my content.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_00: They see it's just like OnlyFans.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_00: People hate on me like nice people hate on me because uh because I ask my followers uh for money, but I don't ask I don't hate when my followers ask me for content.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_00: It's the same thing as OnlyFans.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_00: The difference is you're not just getting my feet, I'm giving you my soul.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
1:02:18
SPEAKER_00: That's a good way to look at it.
1:02:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so and I and I and you know, time is money, and I spend a lot of time entertaining my fans, so I'm not I don't I don't feel uh I don't feel ashamed, you know, leaving a poll like, and it's not like I ask anybody individually, like you know what I'm saying.
1:02:33
SPEAKER_00: I leave a whole post, whatever, and then I say, all right man, help me out.
1:02:36
SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to uh I need some money for this, whatever, whatever, you know, on to my mind, and then whoever's sending me money, cool.
1:02:41
SPEAKER_00: That's the person that appreciates what I'm doing, has faith in me.
1:02:44
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
1:02:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, dude, for sure.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_02: That's awesome, man.
1:02:47
SPEAKER_02: Man, I was I was had some other stuff on my mind.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_02: I'm looking at the we've been here for an hour, man.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_02: That's awesome, dude.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_00: Because I I I I feel like I'm uh I feel like I'm a uh I'm a ghetto preacher, you know what I'm saying?
1:02:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like uh a very explicit ghetto preacher trying to change the world the way I do I see fit, you know, uh uh like I'm I'm you know, you know, Jesus, Jesus was this kind of prophet, Moses was this kind of prophet, and Michael White is this kind of prophet.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
1:03:14
SPEAKER_00: This is what I believe will help change the world.
1:03:16
SPEAKER_00: So this is what I'm doing.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_00: So it's no it's no different than when a preacher passed a basket around the fucking church, and you know, you pay your little tithes or whatever.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, my fans that come to my church, they don't mind paying tithes, you know what I'm saying?
1:03:28
SPEAKER_00: And just coming to my church in general is enough ties for me because having faith is all is all I need, you know, and that's why it's not mandatory for them to do so.
1:03:38
SPEAKER_02: And it's like and these churches like aren't even really called out like that, you know what I mean?
1:03:42
SPEAKER_02: Because it's true, dude.
1:03:43
SPEAKER_02: Like, I really got a piss.
1:03:45
SPEAKER_02: So is this about to get wrapped up?
1:03:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm sorry.
1:03:47
SPEAKER_00: So is there anything else you want to share?
1:03:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, we find you, how do we find you?
1:03:51
SPEAKER_00: Uh Michael White361 on Instagram, Michael White36100 on TikTok, and find a way to find me on Facebook.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_00: All right, appreciate you guys, appreciate you guys for tuning in.
1:04:03
SPEAKER_02: Michael White, you guys have a good one.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_02: Thanks a lot.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_00: Appreciate you, bro.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_02: Have a good one, y'all.