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TSH Ep. 8 - SKOL! Finally a W. · The Skol Hop

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All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to the school. Hop
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God Austin here, Hello, Hello, And we're just a couple of dudes
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from Iowa. We like drinking beer. We justecifically Iowa beer, only Iowa
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beer, and we like to talk about the Vikings. Yeah, so,
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I guess to be clear, we like we're not discriminatory on beer outside of
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recording time. True, but when we record this show is an I would
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be your only podcast. We enjoy all beers. But what'd you? What'd
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you us? Tonight? Tonight we have from I'd never heard of it,
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but I'm happy I saw it. It's from No Coast Beer Company out of
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Oscaroosa, Iowa. It is their Van Go India pale Ale and it is
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pretty darn delicious. It's good. The can is really cool too. It's
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like a different take on the Starry Night painting. And there's a van on
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it and I can't tell what it says on the looks like it says no.
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Yeah, it looks like it says no. But it's like Coast.
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It's like a Volkswagen inspired sixties era van, yeah van, and the van
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goes van Go, but it's painted in the Starry Night. Yeah, so
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very good beer. I enjoy it so far. We'll see what we think
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of it towards the end of the show, but so far, no Coast
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beer you got you got a good one here, yeah, yeah, not
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a sponsor. Not a sponsor yea yet. So yeah, Evan, it's
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actually the first time I think you just said it in three weeks that we
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are not enjoying an october Fest beer on the podcast. I know, which
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is weird because it's October. If you had this is our first show in
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October and we're not having an october Fest beer. That's okay because we'll probably
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have some more. Oh yeah, for sure, absolutely, that's a certainty.
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You were telling me about your Octoberfest experience, just like this last weekend.
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Yeah. Yeah, So this past weekend, I for the first time
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got to go to Octoberfest. Not the one in Germany maybe someday that would
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be cool. No, but me and some friends we went to the Octoberfest
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in the Amana Colonies, also in Iowa, and I did have a october
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Fest there because of the day I was there. That was their featured october
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Fest beer. We've had that on the podcast. Yeah, for Our most
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recent show was the october Fest. That's right. It was very good and
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I highly reck commend going to an Octoberfest because all of the drinking songs and
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the the schnitzel and uh oh, I had a pork I think it was
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called a pork trotter, essentially just a big piece of meat on the bone.
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Oh my gosh, it was. It was delicious and it provided a
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good base too, because you know, Octoberfest you're having a few bruce you
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need to have a good bass. But we are not here to only talk
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about beers. The Vikings won this week. The Vikings finally freaking did it.
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If they heard my rant, they felt bad enough for me and you
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and all of us other Vikings fans. You did kind of go off,
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I did the last kind of blacked out for a second. But you know
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what, apparently it worked, so we'll see what happens well show. I
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mean, I think your rant is just kind of reminiscent of all Vikings fans
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everywhere, Like that's just that's how we all feel now, and that's how
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we've all felt for a long time. Like, man, this team has
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a way of building you up and then bringing you down. Yes, it
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does really hard. But at least this team hasn't had an eighteen straight game
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playoff losing streak since two thousand and four, which as of you know,
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twenty four hours ago, neither does the Minnesota Twins. That's right, and
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we should celebrate that because that's a big deal, yeah in Minnesota sports.
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Yeah. I'm not even a baseball fan. Really. I've said if the
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baseball season was thirty games long, I'd watch every game. I just can't
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put that much of my emotion into one hundred and sixty plus game season.
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But man, I watched every minute of both games. So we were recording
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the day of the second win, and I watched all of both games and
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loved every second of it. Yeah, for the Twins to get a playoff
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series win into advance, that's big, yeah for that organization, and I
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truly I think it's big for Minnesota sports. Oh absolutely, it you know,
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brings some winning back into the world here. Yeah, for sure.
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It was exciting to see and cool to see that Kirk attended the game.
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At least yesterday. I saw something that he kind of decided last minute to
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take his family there, and he went on Ticketmaster and paid for his own
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tickets and didn't even try to pull some strings. And I don't know if
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his wife posted the picture or whatever, but he was in sunglasses and a
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hat and trying to be all, you know, incognitate in Kirknedo. But
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yeah, he did say something, and I'm gonna butcher the quote. It's
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not a direct quote, but he said something today about his experience at the
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game yesterday and just being in that stadium and if you watched the game,
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you or maybe you were even at the game, if we have listeners in
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Minnesota yet, and just hearing the excitement in the stadium and hearing the build
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up and the cheers after every time a Twins pitcher got a strike from the
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other team, and he said, you can just feel the hunger, feel
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the desire for winning in this state. We're so hungry. Well, you
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just want our Minnesota sports to win so bad, and it's good to see
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at least one team having some success. Yeah. I didn't get home until
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literally the ninth inning and they were about to wrap it up. But you
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could just even on TV, you could hear and feel the energy at Target
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Field just was almost second to none. It was great. Yeah, You're
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spot on. Minnesota sports are ready for that next step. They're ready for
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a championship to be brought home. They haven't. I mean, the Twins
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are the last professional sports franchise that I'm aware of to win a championship for
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me, Minnesota, for Minnesota, and that was when we were babies,
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I mean nineteen ninety one. Yeah. I may not have been walking yet.
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Evan, I do think that you are slightly disrespecting our Minnesota Lynx.
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Oh yeah, you're right out. Sorry you had to bring that up now,
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I just sound like a jerk. Hey, that's okay. I don't
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recognize women's basketball either. So anyways, let's not alienate the audience that we
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don't already have come on, maybe thirty percent of our listeners or fans of
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the Links that maybe one person. Let's talk about what we're here to talk
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about. We're here to talk about the Vikings School Go Twins, but Go
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Twins, Skull Twins, School Twins, and hopefully we'd get to keep talking
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about the Twins and their continued playoff success. That's right, Well, let's
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talk about this win against the Panthers twenty one to thirteen. We finally did
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it in Carolina. We finally got the dub. Harry the hit man,
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Harry, the freaking Hall of Fame hit man. Wow, he he balled
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out. That was a statement game. It's like he heard my rant last
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week and decided, you know what, if nobody else is gonna do it,
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I'm gonna do it. So he was all over the field playing,
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lining up at multiple positions. Would you say three sacks? He had three
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sacks and fourteen total tackles. That is crazy. Well, and of course
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the one strip sack that led to DJ Wantum going all the way to the
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end zone. Yeah, you know I who who was escorting him to the
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end zone. Jordan Hicks was just keeping speedy Panthers away from dj want That
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was just such an exciting and exciting play at a moment in the game that
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it felt like the worst that was. That was the turning point. I
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mean absolutely was, But right before they snapped the ball for that play,
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it just felt like, Okay, here are the Panthers gonna drive down,
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They're gonna score, and we're gonna be zero and four and it's just gonna
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be terrible. Season. Trade Kirk, trade, Harry, trade, everybody
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fire everybody. That's what it felt like. And then Harry made a statement
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and then the offense ended up scoring another touchdown. Was it the next drive?
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I don't remember if it was the next drive, but it was after
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the the Harry sack that forced the fumble that DJ picked up and took for
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the touchdown. But it was a JJ touchdown from Kirk. Yeah, which
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that was a nice play too, because if you remember, I think was
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it on fourth down? It was either third or fourth down. And I
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remember seeing something after the game, I don't know if it was Kirk or
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KOC saying something to the tune of, we lined up and we weren't gonna
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snap the ball unless we got somebody to jump, and lo and behold,
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they got a defensive lineman to jump on a hard count, so they snapped
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the ball, which at the moment I didn't know that they weren't going to
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snap the ball, So I kept thinking, like, man's that's good awareness
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for Kirk to know that it's essentially a free play. And then he just
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lobbed it up and JJ did what JJ does and he caught a touchdown,
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and then you know, made a physical comment about how short the defender was
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in front of him, but which I can't talk to. That defender is
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probably taller than me. But yeah, that was a beautiful play. It
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was a second and one. Oh okay, then was it leading up to
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the end of a quarter? Then yeah, there's something about like the clock
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running or yeah. I don't know. But what I think is interesting about
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that drive is we never even had a third down. It was first down
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cam Aker's up the gut for seven yards and then second three cam Akers to
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the left for ten yards, first down pass to cam Akers for nine yards,
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and then second and one touchdown to JJ in the end zone. So
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that was that drive. All seventy five percent of it was cam Akers.
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Yeah, who we haven't seen on Well, yeah, healed. He wasn't
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active his previous game with the Vikings because he had been in Minnesota for just
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days at that point. And then you know, he actually gets on the
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field, and I think I think having cam Akers kind of solved some of
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the issues that we were seeing with Alex Madison. I mean, Alex,
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at least in the NFL, has never been you know the guy. You
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know, he's had a couple of spots starts in case of injury, and
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stuff, but he's never been RB one, and I think we were kind
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of seeing no offense to him. I think his role is to that RB
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one, Like the best version of Alex Madison is as a tandem back and
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maybe you know, not as few carries as he's gotten in previous years,
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you know, give it more carries. He can beat that number one on
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the depth chart. But when you have another guy performing the way Cam Acres
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performed, succeeding that way, it's nice. It keeps both of them fresher
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and then you don't have to worry as much about fumbling the football because it's
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not on one guy every single time. Somebody has to run the ball.
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And no offense to ty Chandler, But I don't know that he's that guy
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that is the compliment to Yeah, And I mean we talked about it after
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the Acres trade. You wonder who it's saying more too, like who should
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be more offended about that trade or who should be more on edge about that
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trade? And I think you and I both were saying that it's got to
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be Madison. He's the one that's got to be more on his toes.
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You know, somebody just traded and maybe he's gonna lose his job. But
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I think you hit the nail on the head. I think they're not getting
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the production out of ty Chandler or the change of pace out of him that
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they wanted. And Koc was already comfortable and West Phillips already comfortable with cam
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Makers, and at least for that one game, it worked out pretty well.
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Like what did you have four carries for forty yards? It was something
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like that. I can look up that line, but I know for a
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fact that we rushed for one hundred and thirty five yards to total as a
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team, and that was our most on the season. Yeah, it was
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the most successful rushing game the Vikings have had all year, which, you
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know, four games, it's not a Alex. Alex ran seventeen times for
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ninety five yards with a couple of big chunks in there too. He averaged
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five point six, His long was seventeen and cam Akers had five carries for
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forty yards, which is an aver of eight and along of ten. So
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I mean he was just really consistent. Yeah, and big chunk plays.
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We're not talking two three, you know, piddly little games here and there.
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We're talking like big Chunk plays five six, seven yards at a time.
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Yeah. Yeah. The two of them combined were a pretty good running
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back. Yeah. And that's when you're a pass first team like the Vikings
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are that they have been really since Kirk joined the team. When you're designed
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that way, I think your running game needs to be a tandem backfield,
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and I think they were trying to do that with the likes of ty Chandler
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and Alex Madison, and for whatever reason, it just wasn't working. And
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then cam Akers comes in, and I don't know why. I don't know
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why it was better. If cam Akers is just that much better of an
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RB two, or if their skill sets kind of yin and yang well enough
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that it's just perfect, or if they just got lucky every time they ran
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the ball last week. But it worked and I'm here for it, so
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keep it up. I guess we'll find out if it's luck or if it's
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truly a good fit in the coming weeks. We've got a pretty big test
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coming up, yeah, which we'll get to. Well. Yeah, So
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something a sentiment I've heard a few times is that when you lose games,
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you should have won. Like the game to the Buccaneers, like the game
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to the Chargers. When you lose games you should have won, you have
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to win games you're supposed to lose the rest of the season. So you've
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got Kansas City coming Do the Vikings go to San Francisco? No? I
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think that's how hard are they both at home? I think that's right.
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You got San Francisco coming up in the next couple of weeks. Those are
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games. I mean, let's be real here. Those are games you're supposed
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to lose. The Vikings are supposed to lose both of those games. You
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gotta steal at least one of them. Can they beat the Chiefs? They
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can they beat the Niners if they have to get one. My money's on
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beating the Chiefs, But I don't know. Well, the Chiefs have definitely
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shown more signs of weakness than the forty nine Ers. I agree. I
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mean, they dropped their first game. They've looked better in the last three
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games. Oh yeah, they've won all three, but they've kept those games
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close. I mean, they had a close game against Jacksonville and they barely
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escaped the Jets twenty three to twenty this last week against the Jets. That's
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true with the Zach Wilson with Zach Wilson under center. But I mean,
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to his credit, he looked really darn good. Yeah, yeah, maybe
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the best he's looked. Talk about a player getting a kick in the paints
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for having your team sign another guy at your position. I mean, he's
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still not looking like you know, the next coming with Joe Namath, but
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he's definitely looking better than he has in previous years, which I mean give
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them credit for that for sure, for sure. But yeah, I think
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if they're gonna beat either the Vikings are gonna beat either the Chiefs or the
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Niners. I just that Niners team. I don't know who's gonna beat them.
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Like, they look so good and I say that didn't they almost lose
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last week? Are they undefeated? Though? We should? We should know
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this. I know we have the Internet right in front of us. Oh,
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I don't know. But either way, like, I think they really
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would have to mess up to lose against the Vikings. So the Niners,
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Yeah, they beat the Cardinals thirty five to sixteen. They beat the Giants
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thirty to twelve. Come on, Google, be faster than this. They
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beat the Rams thirty to twenty three, And yeah, I think they're undefeated.
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They beat the Steelers seven to thirty, so four and oh, I
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don't I don't think it's it's a night game seven fifteen. Man, that's
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a Monday night game, isn't it. It's it's going to be a rough,
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rough game. And I think this Chiefs game might be pretty rough too.
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Well, let's talk about the Chiefs game. Do you think do you
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think this is a trap game candidate for the Chiefs? I mean it could
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be. I mean you think about and we've already mentioned it a little bit,
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but let's dive a little deeper here. They've had some close games of
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late, even though they're three to one, and they dropped their first game
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of the season, which was kind of surprising. They they kind of got
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kicked in the mouth by the Lions. I mean, yeah, it wasn't
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a blowout by any means. But when it's the Lions right well, in
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the week one, the Lion's still thinking proven the Lions have proven that they're
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a good team, and right now they're the best team in the North,
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and I somewhat believe it, like they've played like it. Yeah, absolutely,
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you can't take anything from him right now. But when you're the Chiefs
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and you're heading into Week one against you know, the Week one Lions.
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That may have been a trap game to start off with for the Chiefs,
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you know, and then especially with the whole Travis Kelcey stuff right before the
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game, you never knew he was gonna play. It was an injury.
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What did it come up like the day beforehand? Yeah? It Yeah,
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you can almost wipe that game away for the Chiefs though, because like they
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weren't ready, they weren't as prepared as they should have been. They probably
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let the Kelsey injury get to them too much, and then the Lions came
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prepared, so they're ready to bite some knee caps. Do you think do
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you think Taylor Swift shows up at us Bank Stadium this week? I couldn't
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care less. I I I am trying to think of something I care less
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about. Well, I coached girls cross country, so oh my gosh.
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So also, like half of my team went to Taylor Swift either in Chicago
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or in Minneapolis this summer. And I've spent far too many bus rides in
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Van Ryde's listening to Taylor Swift. It's your fault, Well, it's not
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my own fault. It's it's a path I've chosen. But I have paid
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a little bit of attention to this whole Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey thing, and
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it's just funny to me. It's funny. I think I heard that Travis
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Kelce Jersey's skyrocketed by four hundred percent since she came to the first game two
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weeks ago. Whatever that whoever they played was at the Bears. I honestly
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don't know what their first game she went to. I think they played the
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Bears at home. It was at Kansas City and they blew out the Bears.
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It was like forty one to ten or something. That was her first
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game, and then they went to New York. The Chiefs played at the
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Medalians this weekend this past weekend, and she was there as well, with
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a star studded cast of like Blake Lively and yeah, I forget who else
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was there. But anyways, it's been kind of fun to follow this,
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and I think the question has to be asked, like, is she gonna
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be in Minneapolis? Will she be there? I don't know. We will
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definitely know, Oh, they will show her, yes or not show her
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if she's not there, But I think I've seen some tweets and I don't
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remember who is tweeting it. This previous Chiefs game, how many what will
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be a higher number the time the amount of times they show Taylor Swift on
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camera or the number of points that the Jets score, And I mean before
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the game, that's a legitimate question. I'm gonna take the over on shots
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of Taylor. I don't remember what it ended up being. I think the
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Chiefs or this Jets scored more than Taylor. But all right, it wasn't
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like they doubled the tailored appearances like. It was pretty close. It was
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closer than you would think. Although it As a Vikings fan, it is
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always nice to see Aaron Rodgers not playing football, and it was nice to
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see him, you know, in the press box or wherever he was.
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Did you see any of the like articles about how quickly he's progressing through his
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recovery? Though, yeah, I don't know. That's another thing. Maybe
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that's the thing. I care less about the tailored stuff because like, he's
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not a packer anymore, so he's not an immediate threat. I mean,
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I don't really care if he plays unless now watch, this is gonna be
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the year the Vikings make to the super Bowl and the Jets are somehow gonna
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miraculously make it to the super Bowl. In the script, it's in the
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script. Yeah, and that's gonna be the one game Rogers comes back for.
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He's finally healthy. He doesn't play a single plays back, and Zach
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Wilson gets him through the playoffs and then oh, we're just gonna turn the
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keys over to a rat and then he's gonna be at the postgame press conference
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drinking purple Gatorade. And I I lied, I do care more about Aaron
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Rodgers than Taylor Swift. Dang it, come on, why'd you do that?
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I hate that? All right, Vikings Chiefs, let's come back to
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the fact that this I think really could be a trap game. I think
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the Taylor Swift drama has definitely I wouldn't say it's a problem, but I
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would say it's it's definitely like present for the Chiefs, and it's something they
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have to be aware of and manage. Yeah, I mean, teams hate
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distractions, like they will actively avoid signing halfway decent players because Tim Tebow is
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gonna get too much, you know, attention to the locker room or nobody
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will could touch Kaepernick because you know, off the field stuff and like because
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all that, Yeah, yeah, exactly, So teams will heavily avoid distractions
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at all costs. And now you're talking about you know, are arguably one
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of the most famous, you know, musicians in the world at the moment.
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Is a slight distraction. So again, like you said, it's not
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like a bad thing. Nobody's mad about it. I don't think, and
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I honestly don't think Travis Kelcey is like, you know, gonna start not
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going to practice or you know, like he's gonna be fine. He's like
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one of the best tight ends in the league. So not worried about that.
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But there is a slight distraction factor too, for sure. Well,
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and it's not just that, but I think of like two close games they've
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won both of them, but two close games within the last three and losing
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that first game, there's probably still a little bit of a sour taste in
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their mouths. Oh yeah, they're not four No at this point. Yeah,
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they're not going to forget about that. That that's that shows how good
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they are, you know. Yeah, they've already looked at every mistake they
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made in that game, I'm sure, and they've already figured out how to
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correct most of them. I'm sure because they're professionals and probably the best quarterback
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in the league right now. So, but trap games exist, like we
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have seen it as Vikings fans. They will, we've fallen. They toast
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the Buffalo Bills in two thousand and six and lose, you know, like
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they'll they will host the Indianapolis Colts on a Saturday with a coach named Saturday,
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and they will get trounced in the first half, and then the Colts
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will Colts and make the most historical unback. And there's our reference for episode
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eight. Remember when I said we were going to touch on that game every
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single episode. It's cool. I don't remember that, but I think I
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think i'd said that last week. Also, Brian, if you're listening,
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that one's for you. Yeah. He's no longer allowed to watch any game
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with us ever. Right. That is fun because we have a friend who's
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a coltsman and we were all three watching the Vikings Colts game and out of
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I don't know, pity slash respect slash friendship, at halftime, he's like,
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well, guys, I'm gonna leave kiss. I mean, we're pretty
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intense game watchers together, and he could see that we were very upset,
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and then once he left, maybe that was it. He's the magic.
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You're right, Brian, you're not allowed to watch games with us, or
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at least Colts Vikings games with us. Told him that a few times now,
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all right, So, I mean every time he's been with me,
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it's been twice now at least the Vikings have lost or at least lost the
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half. Yeah, while asking with us. Yea, so maybe there's something
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there. Keep listening to the podcast, Brian, but yeah, we'll watch
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our games elsewhere. Maybe it's just you and him. I don't know.
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Anyways, trap games I do think exist. They have to travel. I
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am not saying I think the Vikings are gonna win, but there's something there,
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especially after you know, this past week, the Vikings got some life
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in them. You know, they're they're energized, they're excited. Can you
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imagine what that team's locker room would look like after a loss to the Panthers.
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I mean legitimately, like you're probably trading somebody away. Like, yeah,
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I'm not saying Kirk's getting traded. I'd still you could lose the next
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ten games. Kirk's not getting traded, but like somebody might get traded.
27:34
And I don't know. I don't think four games is enough to fire a
27:40
Coach of the Year candidate from last year in his second year. But his
27:44
seat's getting a little warm, I'm sure, and Quasi, I mean,
27:48
fans are already questioning him, and I still don't know where I want to
27:52
stand with his philosophy right now. He There's an interesting tweet that I saw
27:57
today, And you were struggling to find a tweet earlier, and I would
28:02
struggle to find this tweet now and it's still Twitter, and it's still a
28:06
tweet. I don't care what Elon Musk changes it too. But the tweet
28:11
was basically talking about Dalvin Cook and Eric Kendricks and I forget who else that
28:21
the Vikings lost in the off season, whether to trades or free agency or
28:26
whatever. And the tweet was basically just recapping the seasons that those guys have
28:32
had so far and basically said Quacy did what he needed to do. These
28:37
guys haven't produced with their new teams, and I mean, the Vikings aren't
28:45
worse because they're gone yeah. Yeah, in the sense that if you had
28:52
put those guys' stat lines into the Vikings team right now, it's not I
28:56
mean it's not like, you know, already has eight hundred yards rushing,
29:02
like I think he's less than a hundred. Yeah, Well, and the
29:07
Jets are struggling. I mean, the Jets got a huge blow and Aaron
29:11
Rodgers went down and the first four minutes of the season, so you know,
29:18
that whole thing has had a huge impact on that entire organization. And
29:22
Dalvin Cook is included in that. And I mean he's got some competition too.
29:26
Breise Hall's a good back fellow Iowa. Yeah, he's looking really good
29:32
and seems to be all the way back from that ACL tear. So yeah,
29:37
I don't know. I just I liked that tweet because it did shed
29:41
some perspective on where we are. And I'm not ready to completely throw Quacy
29:48
out the back door and just say he's gone, he's done. He hasn't
29:52
done anything. I think it's gonna take some time and it's going to have
29:56
to develop. Yeah, and we're gonna have to like, does this cam
30:00
Akers trade turn out to be something good? Does the Dalton Reisner trade turn
30:04
out to be something good. He's a guy that we haven't talked about.
30:07
Yeah, I don't think we talked about him at all last week. No,
30:10
And I think, well, in this Panthers game, Reisner specifically,
30:12
he played three snaps and they were all on special teams. I just see
30:18
him at all. I just that's just going off of you know, snap
30:22
counts that I've seen on Twitter twitters where we get all of our knowledge,
30:26
right, But yeah, he's I think Reisner specifically, that comes down to
30:30
he's just not confident enough in the playbook yet, which he's been on the
30:36
team for two weeks, two weeks, three weeks. Like that's fine,
30:41
I'm not mad about that, but ultimately, at some point he's got to
30:45
be better than what ed Ingram's doing out there, even if Reisner doesn't really
30:49
know what he's doing. Like as far as playbook goes, Ingram had a
30:52
quiet game this last week. I mean, why, but I don't think
30:56
Kirk throws that second interception if ed Ingram has a better play. It did
31:00
come on that side. That did come on that side, And you and
31:03
I were texting in the moment when that happened. We weren't together when we
31:07
watched the game. But you thought that Kirk just chucked it up. But
31:12
I think I saw on the replay, and I told you that Kirk kind
31:17
of admitted, or at least implied in his postgame press conference that there was
31:22
some contact. Yeah. Well, and even if there wasn't contact, there
31:26
was definitely a defender barreling down on him. So he was affected no matter
31:30
what. But I guess the point I'm trying to make it was it was
31:33
on that right side and that's where Ingram is, And I think, yes,
31:38
you're right, that was largely a result of Ingram's either a missed block
31:45
or inability to block the man that he was assigned to block. So one
31:51
thing I was I did find interesting today. I guess in his press conference
31:56
today, Koc mentioned Blake Brandell as a potential you know, mix in at
32:04
guard, so he was KOs was talking about Reisner and Brandell, Blandell,
32:10
brand Brandell both working in getting some time at the guard spot, which I
32:16
don't know if you remember much last year. Blandell Brandell, Jeez, I
32:22
think he stepped in a cup when he stepped in at the right tackle position
32:28
when Ed O'Neill not Ed O'Neill, Brian O'Neill went down and played okay.
32:34
And I didn't really picture Brandell as a as a guard. But if he
32:40
if he plays well there, he's on the team. Put the best guys
32:44
in there. If he's better than Riisner, put him in there, you
32:46
know, like, And I've even heard his name tossed around as a backup
32:50
to Schloatman, like if Garrett Bradbury can't play, like and we need depth
32:55
at center. If something happens to Schloatman, got next guy in, We've
33:01
got to have somebody doesn't have the ball. Oh yeah, And that's another
33:05
thing. We're not sitting here talking about how bad Schloatman was. He's he's
33:08
been quietly good now. I mean sure, if we analyzed his you know,
33:14
performance on every single play against the Panthers, maybe we're talking about how
33:19
terribly he was. I don't know. I didn't do that, but I
33:22
mean he seems to be stepping into the role. Well. He did it
33:27
for I think five games last year when Bradbury was out, and he's been
33:32
doing it well so far this year. Bradbury again had some quotes today about
33:38
how his back is feeling better now than it was when he was injured last
33:45
year, and Koc was saying, hopefully we have him for this upcoming game
33:51
against the Chiefs. That I mean, even if you know he's totally healthy,
33:57
quote unquote healthy Sunday morning and he's not a scratch on you know,
34:02
an injured scratch and he actually starts and plays that lower back, he could
34:10
I mean, he could play the first series and sneeze wrong on the sideline
34:15
and be done for five more games. So you never know, or maybe
34:19
he's he is good to go and we never talk about his lower back ever.
34:22
Again, I don't know, it really could be anywhere in that spectrum.
34:24
Well, I don't know if it was Chaos's post game conference or if
34:29
it was like his Monday or Tuesday press press conference, but he mentioned that
34:37
Bradbury was like almost ready to Yeah. They said he was close this last
34:42
week against the Panthers and he just he wasn't quite there. Yeah, And
34:47
I can respect that, especially as a coach, like you don't want to
34:52
you don't want to push your athletes into something that they're not quite ready for,
34:57
and especially you know we're we're early on in the season here. I
35:01
respect that from Koc and from Bradbury too, to have some foresight and have
35:07
a little bit of wisdom to say, Okay, I could probably go,
35:12
but it might not be the best and I could, you know, not
35:16
make the whole game, and that would and then jeopardize more of the season.
35:21
That would really suck for the rest of the season. So let's be
35:24
wise, let's be prudent, and let's you know, let's not push things
35:28
quicker than we need to, and let's take another week to recover. So,
35:31
I don't know, hopefully we see Bradbury back in the lineup this week,
35:37
and I think for for Kirk that brings a lot of comfort and familiarity.
35:44
Not that Slotman has done a bad job. We've already said, probably
35:47
the first one to sing Schlupman's praising. Yeah, I'll reiterates, he's done
35:52
well, better than expected, I think. But I think it would be
35:57
good for Kirk to have that familiarity back under center. Yeah, as long
36:01
as Bradbury is truly good to go, I think all of this. You
36:06
know, if Bradbury really was that close and he still didn't play again,
36:10
to sing his praises again, I think that speaks wonders for Schloatman too,
36:15
because if you really think you're desperate without Bradbury, I mean, I think
36:22
you throw in a seventy five percent healthy Bradbury as long as it's not like
36:25
a detrimental injury over you know, a terrible option. And I think that
36:31
not putting Bradbury in last game is a vote of confidence for Schloatman as a
36:37
spot starter and maybe even a potential solution at guard once Bradbury is fully healthy
36:46
again. I mean, I think back to when Pat Elfline was the starting
36:53
center and the backup was wasn't named Brett Jones. I don't even remember sure.
37:00
Handful of years ago. Elf Line would miss a couple of games and
37:04
Brett Jones would come in and do some spot starts, and then it became
37:07
quickly clear that Jones was a better center. And so there was a full
37:12
season or two at the end of Jones's career, and this was two,
37:15
three, four, five years ago where they were like, oh, yeah,
37:20
Jones is our best center. They actually gave him a raise, not
37:22
an extension, like they reworked his contract to give him more money for a
37:27
year or two. And I think that's the point when the team cut pat
37:30
outline so and granted, yeah, that's a whole nother GM, whole nother
37:35
coaching staff many years ago, but it kind of reminds me of that situation
37:38
that Schlotman, if he's playing, well, you can play yourself into a
37:43
spot, even if you know, you know, you're presumed to be just
37:46
a depth guy. Which, yeah, that'd be a really nice thing if
37:50
Schlopman accidentally played his way into a starting spot on that line. Well,
37:53
and it's nice to have depth at any position on that offensive line where we've
38:00
historically struggled, and even this season, well yeah he still struggled, but
38:06
yes, it's better now than it has been at its worst, which there
38:10
were some dark days of Vikings offensive, like immediately after Steve Hutchinson retired for
38:16
the next handful of years. That was that was a rough line. But
38:22
if you think about it, if we get Bradbury back and healthy, if
38:27
we keep Schlotman healthy, and if we can find some ways to plug him
38:30
in, either in a starting role or as a kind of a rotational guy,
38:37
and then we get Riisener in in the same fashion, either on a
38:43
starting position or on a rotational basis. Boy, we've added some key depth,
38:50
and we've also diversified some of the experience of some of those guys like
38:54
Schlotman. You know, he can kind of play multiple positions, center,
38:59
guard, whatever, well, And I'm not and I say that if he
39:00
could, you know, factor in as a potential guard solution. I don't
39:05
know enough about him to know if he's had experience outside of the center position.
39:09
He very well might have. I think he does, if I remember
39:13
right, I think he's played guard before. I don't know. I'm not
39:16
the biggest offensive line guru out there, but anyways, I just I think
39:22
you you have to like your numbers that way. If you're if you're Kevin
39:29
O'Connell and Quacy and you're looking at depth and you're looking at talent on the
39:35
field, you've got to be feeling okay, maybe not like you've got the
39:42
best offensive line in the league, but you've got to feel okay about where
39:45
you're at, and probably even like a little better than okay, like,
39:49
yeah, we've got we've got something here. We've got we've got the guys
39:53
that can protect the quarterback and open up lanes for our running back. Yep,
40:00
I agree, and I think the biggest idea around that statement there is
40:05
the sounding of re Reisner and just knowing that he's there and once he's good
40:12
in the playbook, he's gonna the cavalry is coming. So like we're not
40:16
just stuck watching ed Ingram step on Kirk's ankle every five plays like or for
40:23
fumble. There's at least an option. I thought we'd see him after that
40:28
second Kirk interception in the Panthers game. We didn't. But I gotta chalk
40:34
that up to just not being well enough in the playbook yet, which I
40:38
can live with now. Now, if we're talking five weeks from now and
40:42
he's still not well enough in the playbook, like what are you doing?
40:45
Like come on, we need to figure something out. But or if we're
40:50
talking five weeks from now and he's not in because at Ingram turned it around
40:53
and became the lineman of the Viking sot he could be, that's still that's
40:57
a win too, you know for sure. I mean we're fans of the
41:00
Vikings. We want wins, and yep, I think that's that's all anybody
41:06
wants. Three keys to success for the Vikings and the chiefs chiefs, I
41:14
think continued defensive success. Yeah, we talked a lot about Harry the hitman,
41:19
Harry the Hall of Fame hitman, and he deserves all of that praise,
41:23
especially after that career game. But we haven't mentioned Marcus Davenport yet,
41:29
and he played a good game too. Yeah, and that's the first time
41:31
we've said that this season. I think he only played one other game so
41:35
far. He's been injured. I think it was his lingering ankle injury.
41:39
But he came back this week and oh my goodness. If we can get
41:44
that or even at least seventy percent of that kind of performance from him the
41:50
rest of the year, we're good. That solves a lot of a lot
41:53
of pains on defense. He was a monster rushing the quarterback. He had
42:00
a lot of plays where he either succeeded in getting to the quarterback or he
42:05
made it possible for another teammate to succeed and either getting to or rushing the
42:09
quarterback. That was nice to see that. That was a big part of
42:15
the wind as well, even though he wasn't the biggest splash on the stat
42:19
line, and he wasn't I'm looking at the stat line right now. He
42:22
only had four total tackles, one solo, one sack, and one tackle
42:30
for a loss and one hit on the quarterback, which all of which would
42:34
be that one sack, Yeah, that he accumulated. And even Daniel Hunter,
42:40
you know, was listed higher on the stat line than he did.
42:45
But I mean, you're right, he definitely made a splash and he made
42:52
his presence known. And gosh, man, if we can get Daniil and
42:59
him and Harrison Phillip's going, you get some of those linebackers going, and
43:05
I get Harrison coming off with the edge on a safety blitz. Boy,
43:09
oh boy, We've got And I think Brian Flores has to be thinking like,
43:15
we're not done yet, We're we're just getting started. Well, And
43:19
I wonder if he changed something. Obviously they're they're tweaking their play calls,
43:25
you know, every play, but I wonder if he made any you know,
43:30
major changes to either the total defense or the way he calls the game,
43:37
or if it's just simply having a healthy Marcus Davenport and a hair on
43:40
fire Harry Hitman. I don't know, I don't know what the difference was,
43:45
but it seemed to work, and it definitely can you know, solves
43:50
a lot of problems if you have a DJ Wantam who Yeah, he he
43:55
ran that fumble back for a touchdown. I think he was a tight end
43:59
at one point point and maybe in high school or college, so he kind
44:02
of used that previous you know, offensive ball carrying ability he's had before.
44:08
But also before that, if you remember DJ want him, he almost picked
44:14
off a ball he batted a pass and on a quick screen pass earlier in
44:17
the game, and he batted it down. And if he would have picked
44:22
that ball off, somebody probably would have caught up to him before he scored
44:25
the ball, but or scored the touchdown, but he would have put the
44:30
Vikings in the offense in a really good scoring Yeah. So it's nice to
44:35
see him get home score touchdown after that play because you know he's probably kicking
44:39
himself after dropping that ball earlier in the game. So DJ want him.
44:45
He's another big reason why the Vikings won. And I think a healthy Marcus
44:50
Davenport a productive Daniel Hunter, those two things help a DJ Wantam make plays.
44:58
It just makes the offensive and focus on different guys so more guys are
45:01
able to get home. We started talking about three keys to success to winning
45:08
this Chiefs game before we got on that little rant. We'll just find a
45:12
good little rant to go on. I'd like to point out that the Vikings
45:16
allowed the fewest points all season as a team to the Carolina Panthers. Albeit
45:22
it's the Panthers, we didn't expect a lot out of their offense, rookie
45:29
quarterback and not a whole lot of playmakers other than former Viking Adam Thielen on
45:35
the other side of the ball. Yeah, and he was a third down
45:38
maniac for the Panthers. He had a good game. It has a really
45:42
good game. I don't know his stat line off. At one point he
45:45
had more yards receiving than JJ did. Yeah, and I still think JJ
45:49
only finished with a handful more yards. Yeah. And he played a hard,
45:54
heart fought game like he was. He was in it to win for
45:59
sure. The final play where he was really advocating that Kirk should have been
46:04
called for intentional grounding, which I don't think that's a I hate Kirk,
46:07
I want him to get a flag. I think that's more of a Adam
46:10
being competitive, which we've seen many times before. Yeah. Oh, he's
46:15
very competitive and we've seen that a lot. But I think a key to
46:20
success is holding the Chiefs to as few of points as possible. Oh yeah,
46:23
I mean we haven't won a game until this last week when we held
46:29
our opponent under fourteen points. Well, and the defense only allowed two field
46:35
goals. That's right, they didn't. I think I forget who said it.
46:38
I think Pa mentioned it that it's the first time the Vikings defense hasn't
46:46
allowed a touchdown since I want to say twenty twenty. Oh wow, so
46:52
ever since twenty twenty, they've had a game where the defense has allowed an
46:55
offensive touchdown. So the defense succeeded in you know, a touchdown shutout.
47:01
They allowed a couple of field goals, but the other touchdown or the only
47:05
Panthers touching the only touchdowns of the picks was that pick six? Yeah,
47:08
yeah, well that was just a it looked bad. Maybe it looked worse
47:13
from our you know, helpful vantage point on TV, But yeah, I
47:19
guess we don't. We don't have to go into that, but that that
47:21
was a bad pick. I think it's another key to success. Those turnovers
47:24
have to continue to go down. We improved. We didn't fumble the ball
47:30
this time. Kirk threw two interceptions. One of which was a pick six,
47:36
which really had a huge impact on the game. Oh yeah, but
47:40
ready to turn the TV off after a little bit after that. That was
47:45
the first quarter. Yeah, it just felt like, like, come on,
47:49
guys, we've lost three in a row. We can't lose another one.
47:52
But yeah, I think that's another key to success. The defense has
47:57
to play well and the offense has to hang on to the dang if we
48:00
can protect the ball not cough it up, either on a fumble or an
48:07
interception. Mm hm man, I like our chances. Yeah, I mean
48:10
every game, not even just this upcoming game against the Chiefs, every single
48:15
game this season. If you just cut the turnovers in half, I think
48:22
the Vikings win more of most of those games. I mean, if you
48:30
know, JJ doesn't fumble it out of the back of the end zone,
48:31
and if TJ doesn't catch the ball and turn around and get the ball just
48:37
ripped out of his hands, and if Alex doesn't just have terrible bleatant fumbles
48:40
all the time, and if Brandon Powell doesn't have a big return ended by
48:45
a big fumble recovered by the other team, Like, we're gonna remember those
48:49
and those are gonna be the if onlies and if they can correct those turnovers,
48:53
like we've been saying every episode of this podcast, like this team could
48:59
do something. After an zero to three start. We're at a plus four
49:05
spread right now. That's that has gone the Vikings way because it opened up.
49:12
The first line I saw was the Vikings were dogs by six and a
49:15
half points at home. Okay, Now I checked an hour or two ago.
49:22
Okay, so I imagine it's changed four point underd Dogs at this point.
49:27
So what is today Wednesday? Yep? If it's moving that much for
49:30
the Vikings, you gotta think it's probably gonna at least go to go in
49:36
favor of the Vikings at least to plus two and a half, which I
49:42
don't know. I don't know. I can't let myself get excited about this
49:47
game because then I'll be so disappointed once the Chiefs are up by twenty three
49:52
to nothing halfway through the first quarter and I'm sitting there throwing stuff at the
49:59
TV. Let's be realistic, Vikings fans. I mean, we're here for
50:04
the real, awful, terrible, unfortunate stuff as well as the great we
50:10
have to be amazing stuff. I mean, trap game for the Vikings maybe
50:15
too a little bit. Yeah, coming off the high of the first win
50:19
of the season, feeling good, feeling great, thinking we finally figured some
50:22
stuff out, and then you come home against a really good team in front
50:29
of your own fans. Gotta play good for Taylor. Yeah, Taylor Swift
50:36
could be in the press box somewhere. Yeah, and if she is,
50:39
you bet we'll see her multiple times. Oh yeah, But I don't think
50:45
you're I don't think you're totally wrong on that mindset, but I think you're
50:50
more right on what you said earlier. It could be a trap game for
50:52
the Chiefs. Yeah, I just feel looking at the Bikings record, you
50:55
know they're going, Oh, we're going against a team that's all one and
51:00
three. Oh, they're definitely gonna hand us the ball at least three or
51:02
four times. Like you could have that that mindset of if you're a Chiefs
51:07
player or fan, Oh, we're gonna come in there and roll into it.
51:10
It's gonna be almost a week off. I could see that. But
51:15
I'm okay. If you know the Vikings are the underdogs, you know what,
51:20
We're just a couple of dudes from Iowa who love drinking beer and talking
51:23
about the Vikings. So we don't know a whole lot. We can just
51:27
stay here and speculate that. And really, even even Dane Orlowski, who
51:31
we just saw on TV. He's a quote unquote expert, he doesn't know
51:37
anything either, and he'd probably be the first one to tell you that.
51:38
Like, it's just it's all guessing. He got a safety in the back
51:42
of the end zone because Jared Allen chased him out. I'm sorry. I
51:45
think that safety was credited to Jared Allen, so it should have been.
51:49
It should have been because Jared Allen was the one who chased him down and
51:52
didn't didn't somebody do that this previous week, wasn't it a I don't know.
51:59
I feel like I think maybe Anthony Richardson he stepped out of the back
52:01
of the end zone, and then Daniel Rolawski tweeted something like, I love
52:06
it. I'm off the hook, Like you're okay, you can love it
52:08
and we can all still, you know, make fun of that. That
52:12
play never off the hook. Don't get me wrong, I like oh,
52:15
I very much like him. It's a great guy and a great ESPN commentation.
52:19
Yeah, yeah, but I only brought him up because he's literally on
52:22
TV right now and he is a quote unquote expert and we're just dudes in
52:27
your basement right now. But we can, you know, hit the target
52:31
more times than an expert could. And it's all just guessing. Yep,
52:36
it's just we're guessing with our hearts, and our hearts are with the vikings.
52:42
Our hearts are with the vikings. Well, we're gonna do the same
52:46
thing a week from now. We're gonna recap this game coming up against the
52:52
Chiefs, and we're gonna look ahead to the following week. Don't even remember
52:57
who that is? We should know that Bears? Oh? Is that is
53:01
that one of our lock games? That's the one you said was a lock
53:05
to lose. I think is that our the game that we both chose as
53:09
a lock? I can't remember. I know I chose the Bears one of
53:15
the Bears games as a lock to win. I can't think for which one
53:20
we'll look into that for. We should know this right off the top of
53:22
our heads. I think this is the coming game where I said it's a
53:25
lock to lose and you said it's a lock to win. I might be
53:30
wrong, though. The more I think about it, I feel like the
53:32
Week twelve game or whatever it was, we play the Bears at home against
53:38
not against after we play the Broncos at Denver, is what I'm trying to
53:44
say. Okay, so I think it was that game. Yeah, I
53:47
think you're right now the more I think about it that we we still think
53:51
this Bears game might be one of our locks. It could be, and
53:55
we'll have to bring that up in the next episode. Yeah, we'll do
53:58
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54:02
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54:07
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Yeah, like my Scott once said, I inside jokes are great. I'd
55:04
love to be a part of one. Someday. You can be a part
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of this one if you want. All you gotta do is send us an
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email, just interact with us. Yeah, and we'll talk about it on
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the podcast. It'll be great. Well, we'll break down the Chiefs game
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however that goes. Yeah, Sunday three twenty five. It's a kind of
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a it's not a primetime game, but it's a more of a prime time
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game. It more important, it's a schedule interrupter. Yeah. I've heard
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NFL players say many times they wish every game was Sunday at noon because you
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get to keep your same routine. And this is a routine disruptor. Yep.
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And I don't know, maybe it's not that bad because you're still at
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home, you don't have to travel. But again, I've never been to
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an NFL player, so I don't know, can't can't really speak to that
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either, but we'll break down that game however it goes hopefully well, hopefully
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well, and then we will look ahead to playing at on October fifteenth.
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October fifteenth, those might be cheap tickets. We're pretty close to Chicago,
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those might be some really cheap tickets. So we went to the most recent
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vikings at Chicago game. That's right, Well, maybe we'll have to make
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it twice in one year. I'm not against that. And this is how
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I will know if my wife is listening, because she will mention that I
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talked about going to a game. All right, Well, it's been a
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good episode. I think we've We've covered a lot of ground. We've had
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some good beers. It's been good conversation. All right, ev, what'd
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you think? We have both finished a full one of these No Coast Van
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goes, well, what are your thoughts on this beer? I like it,
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honestly, like I'm a creature of habit, and so I gravitate towards
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things that I know and things that I like. I probably would not have
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picked this up off the shelf if it were me. It means you bought
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them tonight, and you told me when you first got to my house,
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you were like, I bought it mostly because of the can. Yeah,
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yeah, it was the can. It was in the same section as all
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the other Iowa beers. And I'm sorry, I've never heard of No Coast
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Brewery or No Coast Beer Company. And that's on me. I'm sure I'm
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sure many people have. But from now on, if I ever see another
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No Coast beer, you better believe I'm gonna definitely give it a shot because
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this beer, for me, it's an I p A and that's my favorite
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kind of beer. You've said maybe Octoberfest is at least one of yours,
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if not like a Golden Ale or oh for sure. Yeah, but I
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pas are my bread and butter and this one, yeah, it's it's pretty
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up there. For me, it's good. Yeah, I like it a
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lot. And there's something to be said for the can art. Yeah,
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it really well, it's a fun it's you'll see it. It's gonna be
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our our art work. At least for the post on Twitter and Instagram and
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Facebook, We're definitely gonna take a pick. Sure I didn't add it up
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or posted up there, but yeah, good job. No Coast Brewing,
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No Coast Beer Company, I keep getting that wrong. I'm sorry, guys,
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And let us know if you know of another great No Coast beer,
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we'll try it out if we can find it. Yeah, and if you've
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got a beer that you want to recommend that we try. Our only requirement,
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our only prerequisite is that it has to be brewed in the state of
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Iowa. And if it's been brewed here within the friendly confines of Iowa between
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the Missouri River and the Mississippi River, we will gladly try it and we'll
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feature it on our podcast. So let us know we'd be happy to be
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happy to try anything out. Absolutely all right, it was a good episode.
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Hopefully we're talking about a two and three Vikings this time next week.
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Anything else, Oh, I think we covered it all well in that case.
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School School. I think I think, I think I think I think
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I think I think I think I think I think I think I