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One Leg Up 8-12-24 - Aaron Judge's Personal Hitting Instructor Richard Schenk Talks Aaron's Career and Takes Us Inside the Batter's Box · OneLegUpAlex Sports

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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, Alex Garrett.
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  Speaker 2: Hey everybody, it's Alex Garrett, and tonight Aaron Judge could
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  Speaker 2: make some more history. He comes into the Chicago White
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  Speaker 2: Sox series sitting at two ninety nine for career homers. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we wait to see when he gets through home run
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  Speaker 2: number three hundred and also the chase for sixty three.
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  Speaker 2: I caught up with his hitting instructor, yes, his personal
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  Speaker 2: hitting instructor, Richard Skank, earlier today. Well, here on the
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  Speaker 2: Alex Garrett podcast Network. I'm so honored because you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're watching Aaron Judge's home run trajectory once again, and
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  Speaker 2: the fact that he's been hitting besides the home run chase,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's been just getting his hits. And someone
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  Speaker 2: who's worked with him personally, who has been basically a
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  Speaker 2: hitting instructor for him, Richard Skank, is on my line.
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  Speaker 1: Richard.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, I'm so honored to have you today.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, glad to be here.
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  Speaker 2: So we know you've worked with Aaron Judge, and I
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  Speaker 2: want to start there. I mean, the guys got back
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  Speaker 2: on his home run pace. I think April was a
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  Speaker 2: slow start, but from where you sit, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: he's consulted with you to make this turnaround happen. What's
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  Speaker 2: the turnaround there? And judge from May till now.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron has the tendency to get a little long, a
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  Speaker 1: little long in his loading. He likes to hit homers,
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  Speaker 1: and so he likes to load enough to get a homer,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes he overloads and it makes his bats low.
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  Speaker 1: And so through the month of April we did several
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  Speaker 1: different things and finally found the problem. He was, if
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  Speaker 1: you will, reaching too far back with his arms, and
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  Speaker 1: that cost him his quickness. And when he's quick, he's
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  Speaker 1: very powerful. So that's basically what.
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  Speaker 2: We found, all right. Some say the ejection on May
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  Speaker 2: fourth change everything? Is that part of it? Did he
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  Speaker 2: get motivated after that ejection? You think, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: so interesting. Well, I know you've worked with him closely
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  Speaker 2: and now he's on this home run chase again. But
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  Speaker 2: I've always made the point, if he's still getting his
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  Speaker 2: singles and doubles, that's a very good sign that his
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  Speaker 2: bat is just moving the right way, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's interesting homers, he getting the he's getting his hits
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  Speaker 2: in as well.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I think you know, most people consider him
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  Speaker 1: a power hitter, but Aaron wants to be the best
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  Speaker 1: he can be. Uh. He wants to be a three
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  Speaker 1: hundred hitter, wants to drive in runs, wants to hit homers.
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  Speaker 1: He's the complete package, and he does track out too much.
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  Speaker 1: But he still has a very good on base percentage.
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  Speaker 1: Good ops. I think the bat I think he might
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  Speaker 1: be most proud of his batting average.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's pretty up there now, Richard, you said you
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  Speaker 2: work with him on different things. Has that work continued
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  Speaker 2: through this whole season? I mean, does he consult you often?
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  Speaker 1: Since two thousand in seventeen, which was the first season
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  Speaker 1: I worked with Aaron, we have met almost every ten
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  Speaker 1: days to two weeks during the seasons. This season we
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  Speaker 1: have well. Actually, last season I had a health issue
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  Speaker 1: and he was on the disabled list a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: so that it wasn't every two weeks last year and
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  Speaker 1: this season. He's canceled a couple of times because he's
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  Speaker 1: doing well, there's no need to get together. But for
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  Speaker 1: the most part we're together often during the season.
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  Speaker 2: All right, soby's canceling? I mean, something's going right, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: But I know you're at Hittererman teaching tell us about
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  Speaker 2: all of that as well your company hitterman teaching.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I played Division two baseball as a good catcher,
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  Speaker 1: was not a great hitter. I got married, started raising
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  Speaker 1: a family, and as my sons were coming up through
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  Speaker 1: Little League and into high school, they were like their dad.
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  Speaker 1: They were good in the field, but they weren't very
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  Speaker 1: good hitters. So I started studying very Bonds and other
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  Speaker 1: great hitters, trying to figure out if, in fact, they
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  Speaker 1: did something different or better than everyone else. Almost everybody
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  Speaker 1: in pro baseball is a good athlete, but some of
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  Speaker 1: them are better than others. So I started trying to
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  Speaker 1: duplicate very Bonds a swing. I was fifty years old
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  Speaker 1: at the time. I didn't expect to hit like him,
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  Speaker 1: but I did expect to be able to make myself
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  Speaker 1: look like him in video. And my theory was that
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  Speaker 1: if I could do that, I would feel something completely
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  Speaker 1: different than what I did when I played. And it
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  Speaker 1: took me two and a half years to figure it out,
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  Speaker 1: but I started looking like him, and I most definitely
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  Speaker 1: felt something completely different. So I taught it to my
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  Speaker 1: son and he instantly started having success. Now he was
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  Speaker 1: never a pro prospect, just a kid who loves the game,
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  Speaker 1: and he started hitting home runs and filling the gaps
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  Speaker 1: with doubles and triples. So I had been frequent frequenting
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  Speaker 1: the baseball forums on the internet. The forums existed long
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  Speaker 1: before Twitter, and I would start talking about what I
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  Speaker 1: had discovered and why I what it is and how
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  Speaker 1: it works. And a couple of minor leaguers came along
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  Speaker 1: and trusted my judgment and they had improvements in their career.
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  Speaker 1: And then one of them retired from baseball became an agent,
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  Speaker 1: and he's there and Judge's agent, and when Aaron needed
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  Speaker 1: some help, he put us together. So that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: what happened. The big thing that actually happened was what
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  Speaker 1: I call launch quickness. I found out a way to
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  Speaker 1: load the body and to swing the bat that makes
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  Speaker 1: your decision between or the time between your decision to
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  Speaker 1: swing and the actual launch of the swing, to be
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  Speaker 1: very very short. And when I met Aaron, he did
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  Speaker 1: not have launch quickness. Now he does. So he was
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  Speaker 1: six seven eighty before I met him, but couldn't consistently
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  Speaker 1: hit the ball. If he hit the ball go long waist,
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  Speaker 1: but he couldn't consistently hit it well now because of
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  Speaker 1: launch quickness. He can consistently hit the ball and some
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  Speaker 1: of them go a long ways.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Richard, a lot of players turn to you, so
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  Speaker 2: I gotta ask you this. Obviously, every team has a
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  Speaker 2: hitting coach, but what techniques do you bring that are
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  Speaker 2: a little different than maybe what the club is doing
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  Speaker 2: at the hitting coach level compared to when they turn
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  Speaker 2: to you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, there's two things that I teach that no one
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  Speaker 1: else other than people that follow me teach. And one
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  Speaker 1: is what I call the snap of the barrel, the
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  Speaker 1: supernation of the top hand and the pronation of the
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  Speaker 1: bottom hand to get the barrel to go backwards toward
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  Speaker 1: the catcher before it goes forward toward toward the ball.
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  Speaker 1: That's number one, and number two. You have to do
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  Speaker 1: that from a loaded, stretched rear leg. You cannot do
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  Speaker 1: it from two weighted legs. So in the process of
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  Speaker 1: putting those two things together, the snap of the barrel
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  Speaker 1: rear and swinging from the rear leg, your barrel gets
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  Speaker 1: into the zone quicker earlier it gets into the zone
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  Speaker 1: behind you, and so therefore you're quick to the zone.
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  Speaker 1: And then as your leg turns you forward, you're in
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  Speaker 1: the zone a long time, So that gives the hitter
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  Speaker 1: a better window of opportunity, it gives him better timing,
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  Speaker 1: and it really is helpful at getting hitters to square
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  Speaker 1: up the bell, square up the ball more consistently.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, a double consistency. And some guys we
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  Speaker 2: hear the term, you know, hitting over the ball or
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  Speaker 2: under the ball. And at what point do you find
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  Speaker 2: these guys hitting at their stride? When do they hit
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  Speaker 2: their stride after a few sets with you or when
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  Speaker 2: do you notice them hitting their stride? And how excite
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  Speaker 2: are you when they do?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's very exciting when they finally figure out what
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  Speaker 1: I'm teaching. Some of them pick it up really quickly,
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  Speaker 1: some of them takes a while. Now, what was the
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  Speaker 1: first part of your question, Well.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean, it just got to be exciting when
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  Speaker 2: these guys, you know, and I've been a dj lmayu
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  Speaker 2: also because I don't know if you work with them
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  Speaker 2: or not, but he's been struggling. But when I see
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  Speaker 2: him hit the other way, that's so important. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: these guys when they go OPO, doesn't that mean that
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  Speaker 2: they've got a good groove going pretty much?
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  Speaker 1: So they really good hitters can hit the ball to
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  Speaker 1: all fields. They'll pull the inside pitch and they'll hit
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  Speaker 1: the opposite of the outside ball of the opposite field.
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  Speaker 1: That means they have a nice path through the ball.
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  Speaker 1: The best of those are quick to that path. I
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  Speaker 1: don't work with DJ. I'm not real familiar with what
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  Speaker 1: he tries to do. I have seen him swing the
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  Speaker 1: bat a lot, He's had a lot of success in
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  Speaker 1: the past. I really don't I haven't studied them enough
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  Speaker 1: to know to help him well.
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  Speaker 2: One thing you do, Dough, which I love, is on
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  Speaker 2: your feed you post the different angles of all these
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  Speaker 2: guys' swings, even the big hitters. Do you find that
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  Speaker 2: so educational for even the kids coming up? And do
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  Speaker 2: you get a lot of reaction to those you know,
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  Speaker 2: like the Albert bells and the Barry Bonds videos and
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  Speaker 2: others that you post throughout the day.
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  Speaker 1: It's my opinion that all the devices that measure your
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  Speaker 1: bat speed and measure your rotational acceleration and measure your
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  Speaker 1: launch angle are worthless. The only thing you need to
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  Speaker 1: do is turn your camera on and learn to swing
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  Speaker 1: like Barry Bonds or Manny Ramirez or Albert Poolholz or
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  Speaker 1: Mike Trout or someone who's known to be a great hitter.
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  Speaker 1: And when you finally figure out how to make your
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  Speaker 1: swing look like theirs, you will have what I call
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  Speaker 1: barrel depth. That's the barrel getting into the zone behind you.
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  Speaker 1: And when you have barrel debt, yes, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: have a timing advantage over every other player that plays,
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  Speaker 1: and you're going to have your best success. So it's
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  Speaker 1: very rewarding when I finally get someone to feel it
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  Speaker 1: and they go off and have instant success, it's very satisfying.
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  Speaker 2: I get the impression that some of these kids coming
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  Speaker 2: up things they can hit the.
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  Speaker 1: Homer and that's their main goal.
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  Speaker 2: How do you sway them away from being just a
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  Speaker 2: home run guy and really focusing on all parts of
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  Speaker 2: the field that you will very.
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  Speaker 1: Good question and something that's misunderstood with my teaching. I
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  Speaker 1: never mentioned launch angle. I never mentioned the exit velocity
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  Speaker 1: when I teach. What I teach is launch quickness, the
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  Speaker 1: ability to get your bat up to speed quickly. Both
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  Speaker 1: a Volkswagen and a Corvette will go one hundred miles
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  Speaker 1: an hour, but the Corvette will get to that speed quicker.
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  Speaker 1: Whether we're regardless of what your max bat speed is,
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  Speaker 1: you need to get it up to speed quickly, and
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  Speaker 1: so that's what I teach. Now, a guy that's six
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  Speaker 1: seven to two eighty, big strong man like Aaron Judge,
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  Speaker 1: when he figures this out and gets his bat up
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  Speaker 1: to speed quickly and starts barrowing the ball, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of them are going to leave the ballpark. However, Kerry
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  Speaker 1: Carpenter of the Tigers, who's a client of mine, he's
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  Speaker 1: only like six two two hundred. He's a normal size
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  Speaker 1: human being. He also barrows the ball regularly, and he
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  Speaker 1: hits about thirty well, he's hit twenty five to thirty
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  Speaker 1: homers a year. He's not as big as Aaron. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have as much power as Aaron. I also have
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  Speaker 1: a player in the minor leagues who is five to six.
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  Speaker 1: He's hitting three hundred and he's got an eight seventy
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  Speaker 1: or an eight eighty. Ops. He hits a lot of doubles. Okay, Now,
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  Speaker 1: from five to six to six foot to six seven,
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  Speaker 1: I don't care what size you are. What you need
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  Speaker 1: to do to play baseball is barrow the ball. Square
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  Speaker 1: the bat and the ball. The big guys, squared balls
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  Speaker 1: are going to go a lot farther than the smaller
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  Speaker 1: guys squared balls. Regardless of whether you're big or small,
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  Speaker 1: you need to square the ball to play, and basically
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  Speaker 1: that's what launch quickness does. It helps you square bat ball,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: I I find it interesting because some of these guys
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  Speaker 2: turned to their teammates. And I don't know if you
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  Speaker 2: ever worked with Austin Wells, but I noticed that he
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  Speaker 2: was helping out the guys and the miners. When players
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  Speaker 2: start helping their own teammates out hitting, does that go
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  Speaker 2: a long way as well?
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  Speaker 1: Well? Definitely, when I have two or three or four
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  Speaker 1: guys that have been through my training on the same team,
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  Speaker 1: it's very beneficial for them to be on the same
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  Speaker 1: team and communicate back and forth about what they see
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  Speaker 1: in each other's swings.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously you can go a long way. Now we
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  Speaker 2: mentioned Aaron Judge, who else that player that people might
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  Speaker 2: know that you've worked with them, maybe they didn't know
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  Speaker 2: you worked with Over the years.
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  Speaker 1: I probably have eight to ten maybe more big league players,
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  Speaker 1: and I've got maybe fifty or more minor league players,
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  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of D one players who are trying
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  Speaker 1: to be pros. I limit my time right now to
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  Speaker 1: high school agent above. I used to teach ten and
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  Speaker 1: twelve year olds, but right now I'm busy and I
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  Speaker 1: prefer to donate my time to the people who have
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  Speaker 1: the most urgency, and those are the older players.
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  Speaker 2: And talk about your use of video, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: you're not so much analytics. You're about the video. How
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  Speaker 2: did you look last at bat? Versus the next step back?
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  Speaker 2: Is that the way you kind of approach about it.
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  Speaker 1: Also, Yes, I mean when I work with Aaron, when
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  Speaker 1: I go and work out with him, we've always got
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  Speaker 1: the camera on and we're always comparing his swings to
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  Speaker 1: his past successful swings, and there's a certain look that
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  Speaker 1: when he has the look, he also has the quickness.
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  Speaker 1: And that's something that most people do not understand. They
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  Speaker 1: don't believe that there's a better mechanical way to swing
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  Speaker 1: the bat. They believe that your quickness, your ability to
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  Speaker 1: hit the ball, comes from your fast twitch, from your
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  Speaker 1: god given athleticism. And I'm not discounting that that God
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  Speaker 1: giving athleticism is very important, but it's not enough. The
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  Speaker 1: pitchers are so good these days that you also have
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  Speaker 1: to have mechanical quickness to go with your fast twitch.
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  Speaker 1: And when you have both you're going to play at
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  Speaker 1: the highest level that your God given the ability will
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  Speaker 1: allow you to play. When I get a new student,
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  Speaker 1: I tell them, if you can get this swing down,
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  Speaker 1: you will play as long as your god given ability
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  Speaker 1: allows you. If it's a high school kid, that may
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  Speaker 1: just be college. If it's a college kid, that may
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  Speaker 1: be the minor leaguers. If it's a minor leaguer, it
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  Speaker 1: might be major leaguer. The one thing they can do
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  Speaker 1: to improve their ability to play longer is to get
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  Speaker 1: a launch quickness swing.
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  Speaker 2: You know you mentioned the different types of pitchers and pitches.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have sort of a technique for every pitch,
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  Speaker 2: like the curveball, the splitter of the fastball. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you go over every pitch, and now these
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  Speaker 2: hitters should approach each pitch and someone's a show like
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  Speaker 2: a scouting report as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, what comes with launch quickness is the ability to
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  Speaker 1: have more time to read the pitch. If you're as
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  Speaker 1: quick as you can physically be from the time you
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  Speaker 1: decide to swing until you swing, that gives you more
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  Speaker 1: time to read the pitch. Basically, a ninety mile an
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  Speaker 1: hour fastball, you have about point four seconds from the
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  Speaker 1: time it leaves the pitcher's hand until it gets to
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  Speaker 1: the zone, roughly point two seconds to read the pitch
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  Speaker 1: and roughly point two seconds to execute your swing. Well,
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  Speaker 1: if you can get your swing time your swing quickness
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  Speaker 1: under point two, well, now you have more time to
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  Speaker 1: read the pitch. And that's basically what happens. And therefore
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  Speaker 1: Aaron judge could just look fastball every pitch but still
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  Speaker 1: be able to adjust because he has the time to adjust.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't do something different for a slider than he
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  Speaker 1: does for a fastball. He doesn't do something different for
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  Speaker 1: a changeup that he does for a slider. He has
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  Speaker 1: an instantly quick launch that allows him to wait for
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  Speaker 1: the ball to get to him. When you're waiting for
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  Speaker 1: the ball to get to you, when you're waiting for
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  Speaker 1: the fastball to get to you, it's not all that
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  Speaker 1: hard to wait a little longer for the slider or
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  Speaker 1: a little longer for the changeup. But when you're rushing
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  Speaker 1: to catch up to the fastball because you're not quick, now,
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  Speaker 1: the slider and the off speed pitch are real problems.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I got to ask you this because that
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  Speaker 2: two weeks there, Remember that two weeks in twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 2: when it wasn't looked like it was even getting singles
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  Speaker 2: in the doubles because of the press of sixty two.
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  Speaker 2: Did he turn to you during those few weeks where
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  Speaker 2: it just looked like he was going after every pitch?
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  Speaker 2: Did you feel that as well?
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  Speaker 1: What I saw at the end of the season in
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  Speaker 1: twenty two when the pressure was on him to break
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  Speaker 1: the record. First of all, a lot of people started
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  Speaker 1: stopped pitching to him, and so my opinion he might
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  Speaker 1: stay different. But my opinion was he started expecting them
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  Speaker 1: to walk him or to throw pitches off the plate,
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  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the pitch would come
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  Speaker 1: over the plate and he would take a swing at it,
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  Speaker 1: but he wasn't really ready because he was expecting them
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  Speaker 1: to walk in. So there was a period of time
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  Speaker 1: there where a good hitter is yes, yes, no, I'm swinging.
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  Speaker 1: I'm swinging. Now I'm not. I think there's a period
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  Speaker 1: of time there where he was no, no, yes, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not swinging, and I'm not swinging. Oh, I better swing.
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  Speaker 1: And when he finally fixed that, home runs number sixty
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  Speaker 1: one and sixty two came in right there at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the season, I was on the day he
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  Speaker 1: hit sixty two. It was a doubleheader. They were in Texas,
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  Speaker 1: and the first game of the double header he didn't
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  Speaker 1: hit it. And between games we had a text exchange
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  Speaker 1: and he said, I think my direction is off. And
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: that has a special meaning to both of us. He
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: has to feel like he's going to hit every ball
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: opposite field. Whether he does or not is a different story,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: but he needs to feel like he's going to as
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: he's receiving a pitch. And he texted me and he said,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I think my direction is off. And I looked at
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: some video and I said, I think you're right, Aaron.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: And first that bad of the second game of the
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: double header he hit number sixty two.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Well, that is such a special story. And I was
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: going to ask you if you were in the ballpark
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: that night, and then of course he had to have
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: phoned you were texted you after it happened, right, I
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: was not.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: In the ballpark. I was in New York when he
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: hit sixty number sixty and I hung around I forget
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: how many days, two or three days, hoping to see
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: sixty one and sixty two, but he never did it,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and I had to go on home and then I
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: believe he hit sixty one in Toronto and sixty two
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: in Texas, and I I was here in Saint Louis
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: when that happened. I was watching on TV.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: You know, Aaron Judge. I observed this the moment he
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: came up. It seemed like the flick of the wrist.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: If he got that flick of the wrist right, it
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: was going out of the park. And that's still true today.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very quick. When I first met him, he
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: had lengths to his swing. In other words, when he
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: decided to swing, he had to load a little bit
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: more after deciding to swing and before he could swing. Well,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: now he's one hundred percent loaded before the decision to swing,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: so the only thing left to do is swing. There's
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: no other movement needs to happen. And you're right when
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: he's when he's in that decision, I'm sorry, load decision
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: swing versus decision loads playing. He's extremely quick, all right.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: He's on the verge of hitting three hundred career home runs,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: and obviously a credit goes to you, but three hundred
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: in what he's been here since, you know, seventeen, I
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: believe he's at his first Ummer in sixteen. I mean
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: that's about eight years. Is that a fast pace to
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: three hundred and seven to eight years?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe not in years, and I'm not certain about
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: the years, but it's definitely the fastest pace for anybody
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: in terms of at bats. Now, he was on the
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: injured list in eighteen and nineteen, and I forget he's
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: had some injuries and so his seasons have been cut short.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: So I'm not sure if it's the fastest in the
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: number of years, but if he hits one tonight, it'll
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: be the fastest ever in terms of at bats. In fact,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: it doesn't even have to happen tonight, it's probably going
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: to happen.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Take us through the Dolman derby in twenty seventeen, and
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: do you think he was wrongly criticized for after and
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: then because he got injured after that? Did he put
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of energy into that home run derby? Or
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: was that just happens as he got injured after.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: That home run derby? If I'm not mistaken, was the
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: last one that the hitter was on the clock, like
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: you can get as many swings as you want within
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: two minutes or something. And then they went to another format,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: but anyway, he would take a swing and then in
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: an effort to get ready for the next swing, he
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: wouldn't let the swing he just took finish smoothly. He
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: would kind of yank it back to get ready to
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: take another swing, and over and over and over he
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: did that. He started, he injured his leads shoulder, so
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: after the home run derby, he might have maybe he
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: should have gone on the disabled list, but he didn't
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: want to. So he continued to take at bats with
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: pain in his shoulder, and he couldn't he couldn't hold
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the bat and do what he wanted to do because
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: of the pain. And eventually it went away. And continued
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: to work through it, and then he struck out a
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: lot in late July and early August that year, and
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: then we got together the last two or three days
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: of August. In the first couple of days of September.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I was with him for a week, I think, and
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: he hit fifteen homers in September and got to fifty
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: two and set the rookie record at that time. So
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: as far as whether he should do it again or now,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that's totally up to him. It's not a good thing
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: when you get injured doing it, so we'll see what happens.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: You know, Aaron's thirty now, I believe at yeah, thirty
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: now he came up in his twenty five. The maturity
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: level in five years.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, have you noticed a change.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Or is he sort of the same kind of cool,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: collective guy he was at twenty five.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I don't see any change in his personality over the years.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I've learned to appreciate how even keel he is. Even
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: when he was struggling there in seventeen after the All
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Star break, he had this confidence about him, but yeah,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I'm struggling, but I'll get it together. And then this
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: April when he was struggling, it was like when I
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: met with him, I couldn't tell if he had just
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: struck out five times or if he just hit five homers.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: He's the same guy. He's a great player, and he's
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: a better person.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Were you the the night he got drafted in at
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: the MLB Network Studios by Jane Oh No, you met
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: him seventeen, so you weren't there the night he got drafted.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: But did he tell any stories about being drafted by
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: the Yankees and what that meant to him?
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Well? He hasn't told me the stories, but I've seen
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: him talk about his he loves being a Yankee, he
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: loves being in New York. So, you know, we don't
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: talk much about that, but it appears to me that
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: he's right where he wants to be and he's happy
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: to be there.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Got to ask you this. Obviously, the pressure in New York,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, the fan base goes crazy. They say send
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: him down. Obviously you don't listen to that, but you know,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: it is kind of wild to me, even that they
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: boo their captain. I never understand that.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Richard. Well, it is a tough place to play, and
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of people who were good before they got there,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: when they got to New York they didn't do as well.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: It is a tough fan base to play in front of,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: very demanding I think Aaron handles it really well.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: About the postseason because looks like the Anks are on
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the way. We hope what changes could he make in
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: the postseason because obviously that's been a bit of a
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: tough thing sometimes for him. So what do you say,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: what will you be working into the postseason?
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Would you say, well, if we work, we'll we'll just
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: do the same grills, and do the same things we
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: always do. Of course, in the postseason, you're facing the
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: best pitchers almost every game. Most teams have, you know,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: an ace, and then their number two is pretty good,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: their number three is pretty good. They're some of the
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: best pitching in the league. And I just you know,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: you got to get a pitch to hit, and those
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: good pitchers don't give good pitches to hit very often.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: So it's just a matter of being ready when when
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: you get your pitch to hit, you can hit it.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: We're trying to ask about patients at the plate because
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I feel like one Soto has kind of brought a
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: culture change where they're walking more, even Aaron's walking more.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Having Soto in front of Judge has sort of changed
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the way Aaron. Is it changing the way he's approaching it?
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Is it a better thing for him that Soto is
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: in front of him? What isn't that three four combination?
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: There four two three combination.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think it changes Aaron's approach, but I do
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: think having other hitters in the lineup makes it slightly
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: easier because the pitcher has to defend or has to
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: be you know, it has to be good against every
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: single hitter in the lineup that's tough has always walked
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: quite a bit. I don't is he walking more this year? Well,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: he's getting intentionally walked. I know that, so maybe he is.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: But even without the intentional walks, he still walks a lot.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Being patient at the plate basically you're trying to wait
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: for a pitch you can do damage with, and sometimes
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: you end up not getting that pitch and you swinging
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the pitch you shouldn't have or didn't want to, but
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you had to because you had two strikes, and sometimes
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you end up walking. So patience is important, and launch
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: quickness helps you have patience.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Tell us how that relates to patient of the plate
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: with the launch quickness. I'm curious now.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, so back to what I said a minute ago.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: When you have roughly point two to read the pitch
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and point to to swing, if you're quick, you have
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: more time to read the pitch and therefore where you
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: can be. Therefore, you're gonna read pitches better, You're gonna
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: see the spin earlier, you're going to predict the movement better,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: and therefore you can make better decisions. Well, patience is
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: a matter of making better decisions. Having the time to
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: make better decisions your patient, and the better decisions you
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: make on which pitches to let go by and which
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: pitches to swing at, the more barrels you're going to hit.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: So you're just waiting for the pitcher to throw you
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the pitchure that you know that you like, and you
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: have the ability to do that more so than the
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: people who don't have launch quickness.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Richer, I gonna ask you this because obviously I play
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: ball and I actually stand on one leg and hit,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: and then balance is such a big part for me
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: when I get that bat on the ball. How for
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: people with two legs? I mean that balance is so crucial,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: isn't it that the plate.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not big on the word balance. I'm more bigger
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: on the word control. Balance. Anybody can just stand there
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: in balance, but can they generate any force from just
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: standing there in balance? What you have to do is
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: you have to coil and load up your body. You
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: have to wind yourself up, so to speak, and you
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: have to do that while you're moving forward. So a
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: better word than balance is control. Control is balancing. You're moving,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: you're coiling and you're moving forward, and you're controlling that
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: such that each wol to move forward, there's a counter
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: move backwards that balances you, that keeps you in a
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: balancing feeling. And when you can control that balancing movement,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: you stay on your back leg. When you can't control
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: that balancing movement, you fall to your front legs. And
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: when you have to put your foot down before you
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: can swing, you will never ever reach your potential. It
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: takes too much time. The pitchers are too good.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Are there any kids that run through your you know,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: training that you have to really work on saying all right, well,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: your hand eye coordination is not there yet, but we'll
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: get there or are there? Sometimes where it's really you know,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: maybe I'd say that baseball's not meant for them, but
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: you have to be honest and say, you know what,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: the coordination may not be there. Talk about the hand
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: eye coordination for hitters and for hitters you work.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: With, Okay, Well, everybody has their their genetic limit. I
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: guess the more athletic people are probably going to play
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: longer than the least athletic people. As long as you
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: have mechanics that allow you to have quickness in terms
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: of the hand eye coordination, that's huge. I talk about
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: it all the time, you don't. A good hitter doesn't
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: actually push the barrel to the ball. He doesn't pick
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: a spot to push the barrel and meet the ball
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: at What he does is is he snaps the barrel
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: rearward into an arc. You create an arc with your barrel,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: and you create that arc at the right moment, in
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: the right direction, so that the thrown ball comes into
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: the arc. You don't take the arc to the ball.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: And so therefore, as you turn to look at the
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: pitch to receive a pitch, you're thinking about You probably
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: don't think about it in a game, but as you're
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: learning this, you're thinking about creating an arc that the
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: ball runs into, and you're allowing your hand eye coordination
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: to work unencumbered. You're not manually overwriting your hand eye
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: coordination by pushing the bat at the ball. You're just
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: creating an arc and letting it work automatically.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you're gonna you know you probably hate analytics.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Does that bother you the analytics world where they're what.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Well, it bothers me because they ruin players. I've had
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: a major league hitting coach tell me that teaching hitting
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: is easier now than ever, because of analytics. And I'm
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: going to tell you the guys are hitting moron because
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: your minor leagues are full of athletic kids, athletic players
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: who have a good launch angle, they have good rotational acceleration,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: and they have good exit of velocity, good batch speed,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: but they can't hit big league pitching. So how important
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: are those analytics when you have hitters who have the
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: analytics and hit, and you have hitters who have the
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: same numbers that can't hit. The key factor is launch quickness,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: and I'm the only one that teaches that, me and
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: my followers, and I'm the only one that can measure that.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: And when baseball finally sells out and tries to figure
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: out what launch quickness is, the offensive part of the
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: game will increase and it will catch up to the
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: advances that pitching his mate.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I notice you mentioned that you work with women as well.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Anybody from the Oklahoma softball team that just keeps dominating
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: every way, you know, college Hofball World Series, they're doing
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: something right.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I don't work with any Oklahoma player, but when I
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: watched the women's college World Series, it appears to me
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: that they're doing what I teach I'm not taking credit
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: for it. I haven't worked with any of them, but
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: someone there knows what they're doing. And the girls have
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: launch quickness and they also have good pitching, and the
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: combination of those two is a hard thing to beat.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you know, I follow their Durney pretty much,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: and I work with softball teams at Queen's College and
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: they were great the actually when the ECC a few
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: years ago, so they you know, it's all about doing
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: something right at the rich I got to ask you this.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: So when you get a new person coming in, a
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: new client, a new hitter, allre you at the point
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: where you now say, well, I can't promise you'll be
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Aaron Judge, but I'm gonna make you a damn good hitter.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Are you at that point yet?
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Yes. If they do what I teach him to do
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: and they get to where it's automatic, they don't have
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: to think about it anymore. There is a learning curve.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: There's time when they're thinking so much you're kind of
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: paralyzed a little bit. But eventually, with a lot of reps,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: you get over that and you can get into a
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: game and just let the swing fly. They're going to
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: be the best they've ever been. Now, everybody takes a
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: different amount of time to get there. I have a
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: player named Jose Vargas that isn't in the Mexican League
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: right now. He came to a weekend clinic of mind.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: He figured it out in that weekend and I've never
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: seen him since, and he's done really well. On the
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: other hand, I've got players that take more time. So
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: it really comes down to their commitment, their belief, their
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: willingness to to do the work.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Well, we're in the air of like helicopter parenting now, Richard,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: where you know parents want all the involvement at these
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: games and everything, and at the level you're working at
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: with these kids, are parents you know involved or do
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: you tell them you know what, I've got it handled.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: You know, how's that dynamic?
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Okay? If I'm working with a high school kid, it's
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: more than likely that his dad has searched the internet
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: and found me, and his dad has brought him to me.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: So I usually have a really good relationship with dad
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: and player. The problem is, most of the time is
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: the coach who doesn't understand what the kid is being
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: taught and oftentimes disagrees with what he's taught even though
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: he doesn't understand it. If I was a high school
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: coach and I had twelve, fifteen players, twenty players, however
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: many have got there's no way in hell that I
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: have enough time to work with each of those players
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: individually to get them up to So if I was
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: a high school coach and all of my players were
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: taking lessons independently from different instructors around the area, I
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: would be thrilled, and I would just try to figure
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: out what they're trying to do and then do my
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: best to help them do what they're trying to do.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: But what my players find, the people that come to
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: me find is their coach tries to change them rather
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: than help them.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Well, Richard, I am sure they're on great hands. How
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: can people reach out to you?
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I know you're on an X and then social media,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: So give us your handles that people can reach out
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: if they have a kid right now interested in, you know,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: playing the game of baseball.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I am teacher Maan nineteen eighty six on X. I'm
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: teacher man nineteen eighty six on Instagram, a teacher man
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: hitting on TikTok. I'm not hard to find. They can
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: do Google my name and my phone number will probably
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: come up. Well.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: On that note, when you're up at the stadium again,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: please let me know. I'd love to meet you in person.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: That would be great.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm scheduled to be there. I'm scheduled to be
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: in Detroit this weekend and then usually about two weeks
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: later I'll be in New York. So I'll look you up.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Well, definitely be in touch. All right, one last thing.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you're a big prediction guy, but
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Kenny hit sixty three. I have to end the interview
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: with that question.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Well, I would say definitely yes, But it comes down
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  Speaker 1: to will the intentionally walking too much?
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  Speaker 2: We saw that a lot in the Toronto series and
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  Speaker 2: they got you know, they were heavily booed because they
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  Speaker 2: intentionally walked in almost every abat. It felt like, right, yep,
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  Speaker 2: I have some nerves.
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  Speaker 1: You don't tell them.
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  Speaker 2: The basebooks see what happened. So uh, Richard Skank, thank
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  Speaker 2: you so much, and we're going to tag you on Twitter,
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  Speaker 2: as this.
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  Speaker 1: Home run chase continues.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're going to get there again.
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  Speaker 1: A Hi, very good. I enjoyed the conversation. Let's see
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  Speaker 1: if we can get a triple crown for it.
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  Speaker 2: Would love that, all right, Richard, thanks so much for
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  Speaker 2: thanks to Richard for joining me on this podcast. And
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