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Cowboys StoryLine: Why Not Milton? · Cowboys StoryLine

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  Speaker 1: Is a production of dallascowboys.com and the Dallas Cowboys football club.
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  Speaker 1: This is Cowboys Storyline presented by Gillette, the official shave
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  Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys. Here's Nick Eatman.
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  Speaker 2: What's up? Welcome to Cowboys Storyline presented by Gillette. It's Wednesday,
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  Speaker 2: September the 2nd. I'm Nick Eatman. And let's get ready
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  Speaker 2: for some Cowboy football. We are, what are we, almost,
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  Speaker 2: we're two weeks away. I mean, I'm sorry, one week
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  Speaker 2: away from the start of the season for the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: And the Cowboys still got about 10 days or so,
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  Speaker 2: 11 days before the season opener against the Giants, September 13th.
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  Speaker 2: But we're into September, no longer next month. It's just
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  Speaker 2: a few days away from now. And the Cowboys have
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  Speaker 2: a roster of 53 players. The last show... was Monday,
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  Speaker 2: and we did have a 53-man roster. I think I
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  Speaker 2: remember saying then that give us a few hours, it
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  Speaker 2: probably won't look like this. And there has been some changes.
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  Speaker 2: The biggest one, surprising one, at least to me, was
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  Speaker 2: the Joe Milton release. Of course, I was told throughout
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  Speaker 2: the building at least three times, like, why are you surprised?
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  Speaker 2: Why are you guys surprised? I mean, you should have
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  Speaker 2: known this, but we are. I mean, we just go
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  Speaker 2: off of what we see, you know, and that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: We go off of practices and preseason games and you
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  Speaker 2: see Joe Milton, who looks better than he did the
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  Speaker 2: year before, when he was the backup and he looks
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  Speaker 2: better this year. So you kind of you think that.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to continue to develop him. They traded for him.
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  Speaker 2: They traded a fifth-round pick for a guy, and they
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  Speaker 2: want him to get better and better, and that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of what he's done. So the fact that he's not
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  Speaker 2: the backup quarterback and not even on the roster right
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  Speaker 2: now or the practice squad, surprising. So I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: stand by that. I'm sorry. I'm not privy to the
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  Speaker 2: same meetings and film sessions as anyone else. We go
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  Speaker 2: off what we see. And so you guys are surprised?
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  Speaker 2: I was surprised too. Still am. But Sam Howe is
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  Speaker 2: the backup and kind of get an understanding of what
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  Speaker 2: they're thinking and why he's the backup. And it makes sense,
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  Speaker 2: but it still doesn't mean that you're not surprised with
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  Speaker 2: the developments of what happened, especially with the quarterback situation.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll say this in a positive thing. The guys
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  Speaker 2: that people are surprised that didn't make it are the–
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  Speaker 2: Third quarterback, he was the third quarterback, and then he's released.
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  Speaker 2: Or the third or fourth running back, Jaden Blue, and
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  Speaker 2: he's no longer on this team. Or the fifth or
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  Speaker 2: sixth pass rusher in Sam Williams. So good problems to
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  Speaker 2: have is that the top end of the roster seems
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  Speaker 2: pretty set, and just those final spots, those are the
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  Speaker 2: things that we're talking about. All right, let's go to
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  Speaker 2: the phone lines. KC Joe in Kansas City is first.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, Nick.
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  Speaker 4: How are you doing today, sir?
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  Speaker 5: Good.
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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 6: Fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: I am.
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  Speaker 7: I am.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, I want to tell you I'm really happy with
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  Speaker 4: the safeties and the linebackers. I'm glad they didn't really
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  Speaker 4: mess with them too much. I'm glad that they stayed put,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm really glad they brought Durant back on the
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  Speaker 4: practice squad. Out of the practice squad, ones that they
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  Speaker 4: brought back so far, which one are you the most
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  Speaker 4: happiest with?
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  Speaker 2: Say that again. Which player are you talking about?
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  Speaker 3: Durant.
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  Speaker 4: He looked really good. I know he's like second or
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  Speaker 4: third string, but I really liked him. He really got
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  Speaker 4: on the defensive line. They brought him back on the
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  Speaker 4: practice squad. They cut him. I was glad to see
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  Speaker 4: him come back.
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  Speaker 2: Chris, help me with this one.
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  Speaker 4: I'm... Isn't it Durant? You mean Dunn?
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  Speaker 2: Tommy Dunn? Are you talking about Tommy Dunn? Because Kobe
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  Speaker 2: Durant obviously is the corner, and Tommy Dunn is number 95.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, well, the one they brought back, they cut him,
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  Speaker 4: and he was really getting, you know, during the third game,
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  Speaker 4: he really got through.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: He looked really good.
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  Speaker 4: And they brought him back. I was like, wow, I'm
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  Speaker 4: glad they brought him back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you're referring to Tommy Dunn,
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  Speaker 2: and he did make some plays in that third. It's okay.
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  Speaker 2: He made some plays in that third game. Hey, at
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  Speaker 2: this point, like, I forget guys like that, and I
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  Speaker 2: say the wrong name. So when you're saying Durant, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: maybe there is one. I just, you know, there's a
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  Speaker 2: roster still. There's a lot of players kind of coming
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  Speaker 2: and going, and they've signed a couple of other ones.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a tough position for a guy like that to, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, to, to make some, some noise because he's
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  Speaker 2: got so many good players ahead of him. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, even, I mean, Jay Toya was a guy
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  Speaker 2: that he did some nice thing. He's not even here.
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  Speaker 2: He was a draft pick, not here anymore. So yeah, they,
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  Speaker 2: they basically chose him over the drafted player that made
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  Speaker 2: the team last year and Jay Toya.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's all I got for today, sir.
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  Speaker 4: We'll talk to you another day and enjoy your day.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Joe. Appreciate that. Um, Yeah, I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: an interesting 48 hours when you get these cuts. And
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  Speaker 2: then it's, you know, the way the rules are set
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  Speaker 2: up now, I mean, your practice squad is as important
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  Speaker 2: as it's ever been because it's really just an extension
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  Speaker 2: of your roster, especially on game day, because you can
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  Speaker 2: dip into the practice squad and elevate these guys. So
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  Speaker 2: it comes down to, Which guys do I think I
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  Speaker 2: can get through waivers? Which guys do I need to keep?
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  Speaker 2: You know, you might have more of a plan for
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  Speaker 2: the player that's on the practice squad than you do
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  Speaker 2: on the roster. And we talked about that last week.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's going to be some guys that are inactive.
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  Speaker 2: They're on the team. They're going to be inactive for
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  Speaker 2: the game against the Giants. And a guy at the
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  Speaker 2: same position is going to be elevated from the practice
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  Speaker 2: squad and play in the game. That's just the way
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  Speaker 2: the rules are. That's how you manipulate the roster.
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  Speaker 8: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Albert in Philadelphia. Albert, it's been a while. What's up?
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  Speaker 6: Hey, Nick.
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  Speaker 9: What's going on, man? How are you and your family?
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  Speaker 3: Good?
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How about you?
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  Speaker 10: Hanging in.
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  Speaker 7: Hanging in. Just have a few things. Don't want to
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  Speaker 7: take up too much of your time, but I'm really
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  Speaker 7: unhappy that Julius Wood did not make this team and
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  Speaker 7: Marcus Bell did. He's just a walking penalty on special teams,
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  Speaker 7: and he can't cover. And Julius Wood, again, played his
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  Speaker 7: heart out, did very well during the preseason, and is
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  Speaker 7: still not good enough again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't disagree with you there. I really, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: on all fronts, I don't see the special teams ace
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  Speaker 2: moniker there for Marquise Bell. Right. And Julius Wood, I
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  Speaker 2: was a big fan of him from one of the
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  Speaker 2: first early practices.
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  Speaker 9: He never did great until 2024.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, he.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he definitely brings it. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 2: you could make the case him over Elijah Clark also.
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  Speaker 2: Both of those guys, you know, Marquise Bell is going
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  Speaker 2: to give you, you know, he's got a different body type.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to play, you know.
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  Speaker 6: But is it good?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they think so. I mean, yeah, they definitely think so. I,
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  Speaker 2: you know. I wanted to see Julius Wood on this
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  Speaker 2: team one way or another, and it didn't happen. That's
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  Speaker 2: probably the one thing I'm the most disappointed about, just
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  Speaker 2: because I want to see him play more.
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  Speaker 3: I hear you.
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  Speaker 7: Me too. About this Jones kid, I'm glad they picked
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  Speaker 7: him up. But a beat writer from Pittsburgh said that
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  Speaker 7: he can't even lift right now. So is that even
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  Speaker 7: playable condition? And when you were out there in Oxnard,
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  Speaker 7: I am not a fan of Michael Trigg.
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  Speaker 6: At all, at all.
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  Speaker 7: Because to me, if you have that body type, if
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  Speaker 7: you don't want to block, then what are you? A
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  Speaker 7: Cowboys tight end has to block. I'm from the Landry School.
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  Speaker 9: So, I mean, that's just how it is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's got a ways to go. I mean, athletically,
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  Speaker 2: he's definitely there. But he's not a complete tight end.
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  Speaker 2: And Lunda Wells... you know, said that from the very,
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  Speaker 2: from very beginning, like this guy's got a long ways
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  Speaker 2: to go before he really wants to be, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be a really good player for us.
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  Speaker 2: And we've seen him catch the ball, but you're right.
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  Speaker 2: There's more to it than that.
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  Speaker 7: So, um, last thing, um, before you go to the
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  Speaker 7: last thing, um, just to say, um, if I ever
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  Speaker 7: have an idea, cause I think, um, I think I
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  Speaker 7: have a couple of good ideas. If I have an
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  Speaker 7: idea for a deep blue, can I just mail that
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  Speaker 7: idea to you and Derek?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Keep them coming.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Cool. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Keep it, keep it coming for sure. So, All right.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for the call, Albert. Appreciate that. Albert in Philly,
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  Speaker 2: not an easy place to be a Cowboy fan. You know,
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  Speaker 2: where is a pretty good place to be a Cowboy
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  Speaker 2: fan is Dallas. That's where Max is. Max, what's up?
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  Speaker 7: Hey, Nick.
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  Speaker 11: Thanks for taking my call.
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  Speaker 3: Of course.
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  Speaker 11: Uh, I got a quick little story.
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  Speaker 3: And then a quick question.
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  Speaker 11: I'll try not to be too long. So, uh, I
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  Speaker 11: have a brand new daughter that I'm really excited to,
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  Speaker 11: as I've been joking, pass on the generational trauma to.
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  Speaker 11: I'm 36 years old. I've never, you know, the last
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  Speaker 11: time they won, I was pretty young. So I'm hoping
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  Speaker 11: that with her watching the games with me, we'll get
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  Speaker 11: some new luck since I was not able to bring
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  Speaker 11: that luck.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 11: Funny thing is my wife and her family are from Philadelphia. And,
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  Speaker 11: you know, last week, i get a photo because they
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  Speaker 11: were watching her while i was at work of her in.
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  Speaker 2: A philadelphia no no see no no we're not i
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  Speaker 2: know i know i'm doing that that's cps type type
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  Speaker 2: of phone call right there like.
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  Speaker 9: No yeah you don't do that no you watch i
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  Speaker 9: had to.
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  Speaker 2: Watch the kid. Make sure they don't throw up on
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  Speaker 2: everything and make sure they're not hurt. But don't put
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  Speaker 2: them in eagle green.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 11: That's what I said. I had to come home and
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  Speaker 11: give her, you know, multiple baths that night and went
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  Speaker 11: to the pro shop the next day, got her a onesie.
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  Speaker 11: So we're ready with the right gear now since they
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  Speaker 11: were trying to sneak in there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not funny. That happened. I remember that happened
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  Speaker 2: one time. I had a kid doing that, and somebody
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  Speaker 2: was watching them. I think they put, like, Texas Longhorn
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  Speaker 2: stuff or A & M. It was A & M.
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  Speaker 2: Even worse.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: Don't do that, please.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, my wife thought it was funny. I was like, no,
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  Speaker 11: it's really not that funny.
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  Speaker 2: It isn't. It isn't at all. Okay. Anyways.
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  Speaker 11: I was watching the Premier League soccer with my wife
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  Speaker 11: last weekend because she's more of a soccer fan. And
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  Speaker 11: we were kind of talking about how fun it is
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  Speaker 11: that all of the teams over there, you know, they
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  Speaker 11: have songs that they sing together in the stadium, you know,
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  Speaker 11: whether win or lose or at certain times. And I
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  Speaker 11: got to thinking, I don't know, do the Cowboys have
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  Speaker 11: any sort of, you know, kind of old traditional song
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  Speaker 11: like that? I obviously know Styx and Renegade for the Steelers,
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  Speaker 11: but do the Cowboys have a song.
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  Speaker 3: Like that at all?
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  Speaker 2: They did in the 70s and 80s. There was kind
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  Speaker 2: of a song like that. I forgot what it's called,
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  Speaker 2: but like there was a song back in the day,
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  Speaker 2: but nothing that's like, stuck you know over the years
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  Speaker 2: and things like that no not not.
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  Speaker 11: Well well you've got some inside you know connection so
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  Speaker 11: i'm gonna go ahead and suggest there's a classic song
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  Speaker 11: by country superstar marty robbins called doggone cowboy and you
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  Speaker 11: know it just i was listening to it the other
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  Speaker 11: day randomly and i was like this seems like a
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  Speaker 11: really fun song to sing with thousands of cowboys fans
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  Speaker 11: you know at the stadium so you know give it
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  Speaker 11: a listen tell me what you think but uh I, uh,
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  Speaker 11: that's all I got for you. So thanks. Thanks a lot, Nick.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Appreciate it. Um, scholars are bringing it today now.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, bingo. Yeah. I mean, I didn't expect all
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  Speaker 2: of that. So, um, Mark, yeah, I'm going to, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to check it out. Um, I, I have a
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  Speaker 2: feeling it's probably not going to be what what the
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  Speaker 2: fan base has, you know, what they're going to like now,
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  Speaker 2: and I just don't see you bringing it back. That
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  Speaker 2: seems like one that's got to stick. And what is
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  Speaker 2: that song that I'm thinking of, Chris? There was one,
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  Speaker 2: something about, I don't remember. I don't know how to
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  Speaker 2: sing on the air, but there was something.
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  Speaker 3: Go! Go!
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  Speaker 2: Dallas!
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  Speaker 3: Cowboys!
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine if that was the song?
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  Speaker 7: Go!
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  Speaker 3: Okay. All right.
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  Speaker 2: We're good on that. That was the old Cowboy Stampede song.
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  Speaker 2: But there was a song they would play in the stadium,
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  Speaker 2: in the Texas stadium in the 70s and 80s. I
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  Speaker 2: can't remember what it was. But anyways, all right. Good stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: You know what?
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  Speaker 2: It's always nice when people, you have some help of...
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  Speaker 2: People that will watch your kids, but yeah, putting them
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  Speaker 2: in Eagles colors or any other team and taking a
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  Speaker 2: photo just to keep sake, all that stuff. My daughter
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  Speaker 2: has a picture of her with the University of Texas
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  Speaker 2: t-shirt on at a game, and so now she's a
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  Speaker 2: sophomore at OU. I tell her, I have this photo
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  Speaker 2: if you want me to, you know, show your friends
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  Speaker 2: and bring it out. But, you know, so, you know what?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like I– but they weren't a baby.
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  Speaker 2: You know, put an eagle colors on for Cowboy fans.
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  Speaker 2: That's a bad trick. All right, let's go to Brian
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  Speaker 2: in Kansas City. Brian, what's up?
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, sir.
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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: Doing good, man. Hey, I just wanted to say– how
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  Speaker 3: much I really liked that Tony D Deep Blue, that
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  Speaker 3: when I saw how long it was, I'm like, boy,
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  Speaker 3: they must have done a real deep dive here. What
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  Speaker 3: a great, great, I mean, that's a movie. What a
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  Speaker 3: great documentary movie. And just listening to him talk and
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  Speaker 3: seeing pictures of his family, you know, his parents in
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  Speaker 3: the high school. I mean, wow, what a just, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if you played a role in that or not.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't watch all the credit. No, not really.
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  Speaker 2: Not as much as I would have liked because that
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  Speaker 2: was my favorite player. I was my hero growing up.
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  Speaker 2: But I was more involved with the Thanksgiving Day documentary
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  Speaker 2: that we did. So I wasn't a part of that crew.
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  Speaker 2: But definitely, I can't tell you I've seen it all.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen half of it. I haven't even seen the
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  Speaker 2: cowboy part of it yet. But I can't wait to
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  Speaker 2: really kind of do a deep dive and watch. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they did a great job. And the most important thing
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  Speaker 2: about it is because I can tell you this after
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  Speaker 2: doing one with Joe Avazano and how proud his son
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  Speaker 2: was of it. Anthony Dorsett obviously is a part of
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  Speaker 2: our some of our shows here. And he walks around,
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  Speaker 2: and I've talked to him, and he's just blown away
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  Speaker 2: with what happened and being considered an associate producer on it.
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  Speaker 2: So when you get the family proud of your work,
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  Speaker 2: the mission accomplished, and everything else is gravy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. And, and, and he does, and he's a nice,
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  Speaker 3: he's got a nice role in the movie, you know,
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  Speaker 3: in talking with his dad through the movie. I just, anyway,
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to put that out there because you
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  Speaker 3: mentioned it a couple of weeks ago and I finally
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  Speaker 3: just saw it, I don't know, late last week, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And just wanted to say how great it was, you know,
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  Speaker 3: coming up to this quarterback issue, I, you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: kind of like what you were saying, man, maybe, maybe
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  Speaker 3: last week about, Hey, we're talking about the third, this
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  Speaker 3: and the fourth, that if you're talking about the backup quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: you know, your expectations just change. You know, it's just not, it's,
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  Speaker 3: it's not the same thing. And it's just, there aren't
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  Speaker 3: a lot of examples and there are, there's one recent one,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Carson Wentz passed it off to Nick Foles
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  Speaker 3: and they still, they still went all the way. There's
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: not a lot of those examples. There's Jeff Hostetler, Doug Flutie.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: There have been a few guys in history who were
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: so good that they could do it.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: As a backup. There's not a lot of those. And,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: and no kidding, Milton or how neither one of those
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: guys are on par with that, you know? And, and yeah,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: I just, I hope we get Milton back just for
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: the sake that he's a reasonably young guy and he's
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: not played people that don't follow college football probably might
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: not know. He's not played a lot of football. Yeah.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: he didn't play a lot of football in college. So
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: he just doesn't have time on task. So I hope
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: everybody can put the Regos aside and he comes back
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: to the practice squad and can maybe develop. My question
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: for you, though, is the new running back, of course
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: his name just flew right out of my head. Help
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: me out, Nick.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Dean Mercado.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm already Dean Mercado. Just whatever you've heard, I'm curious.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: They're always trying to give Malik Davis his job away,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: and the guy is just... I mean, as far as
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I'm concerned, he's proven everything you could ever ask a
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: human being at work to prove. Right. I mean, he's...
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: He just has. And God love him, because I looked
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: it up this morning. He's going to double his... If
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: he's on the roster... on opening day against the Giants,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: he's going to double his career earnings. And he earned
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: every penny of that.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: No, he definitely has.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I'm just curious, what's the role that you're hearing in
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: terms of what does he do that none of the
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: other guys could do? including, you know, a Bonaconda, you know, they,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: they decided not to keep me. I'm just curious what
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: they see in him. That might be different. And I'll
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: hang up and listen, brother.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it. You know, the thing about, about D D
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Mercado and I, and I get the, if you, if
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: you Google him, you're going to see his, you know,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: least favorite moment of dropping the ball at the one
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: yard line before a touchdown got into an altercation with
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: his head coach. That was, the head coach at the time.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: But came back the next week. See, that was right
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: before the Cowboy game. Came back the next week, rushed
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: for 80 yards, I think, against the Cowboys. He's got
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: a 6.5-yard average per run and per catch. Per catch is,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: you know, as a running back, that's decent. You know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: that's pretty good. Running back 6.5 is really good. He's
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: a big play ability. I think there's a 71-yard run, 55,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: a couple of 50s, a 49. So he's got some
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: game-breaking ability there. What he does more than the other guys,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's just a combination of being
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: a guy that can catch the ball out of the
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: backfield also can break some good runs he's got special
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: teams experience and he's familiar with what Clayton Adams is
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: doing because he was with Arizona you know in those
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: two his first two years with him there in Arizona
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: so he understands you know the terminology and what they're
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: doing so Is he going to play over Malik Davis?
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know about that right away.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: But you know what? If that's going to drive Malik
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Davis to be even better, then fine, because that's all
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: he's ever done in his last two years. He's just
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: been kind of counted out for this guy, or this
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: guy's going to play over him, or he's cut, and
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: this guy. And he keeps coming back, and he keeps
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: showing everybody what he can do. So if this is
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: another one of those– Great, you know. All right, let's
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: go Albert in Tucson. What's up, Albert?
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: What's up, Nick?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: My man, how are you, man? I'm good.
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: How are you? Another beautiful day here in sunny old Tucson.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: You know, all those Cowboy fans here, believe it or not,
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: just a quick rundown. You know, when Tex Tramm was
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: in charge of the Cowboys, He bought the TV rights
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: for the region, okay? So when the Phoenix Cardinals came
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: from St. Louis, regardless whether the Cardinals were playing, the
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys were always playing on TV.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: It didn't matter. Yeah.
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: It was until they changed their name and they bought
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: the rights. So they changed their name to the Arizona Cardinals.
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: And then all of a sudden they started showing Arizona
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: Cardinals statewide. So, you know, just a little bit of history,
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: you know. And that didn't change until, like, the 90s,
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: the late 90s.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:59
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I've always had a theory that if there's a city
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: or a state that didn't have a football team in
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: the 70s and early 80s, then there are going to
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: be Cowboy fans there. I mean, there's just a lot
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: of them. And Arizona, you know, Phoenix is one of
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: them that didn't have a football team at that time
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: in the 70s. And there's probably, and you can tell me,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: you can attest to this, there's probably a lot of
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Steeler fans there as well. I don't know if that's
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: the case. But typically when there's not a football team
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: there in the 70s, you know, you pick the Cowboys
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: or the Steelers. They were the ones winning. They were
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: the ones playing in the Super Bowl.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: So, yeah.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: You're right.
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: Honestly, I haven't seen that many Steeler fans, but I
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: know there's a lot, a lot, a lot of Cowboys
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: fans in this state.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: There were a lot.
• 22:53
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: Especially in Tucson. Tucson, you know, they have bars, and
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: this is the Cowboy Bar, Carbon Bar, and we take over.
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: So to change it up a little bit, what do
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: you think about another possible trade? I think it's feasible,
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: especially in some positions that we're kind of heavy on to,
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: you know, kind of sweeten up the pot. I want
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: to kind of get your opinion on that, especially, you know,
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: coming up to the first game. But that's all I got.
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: And go Cowboys.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Man, at this point, it does feel like.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: this is the team like this is the roster let's
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: see let's see what they've got you know um you
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: know you've added Von Miller you've made a trade for
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: a swing tackle that could compete for a starting job
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: maybe with Terrence Steele um the linebackers I think you
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: know that was an issue at one point now it
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: seems like it's a pretty good spot not only on
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: the roster but a couple of good guys on the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: practice squad that I think could be elevated on game
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: day too if you're going to make a splash trade
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: right now, I mean, corner that, that would be the
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: one position where I could see, you know, there are
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: still question marks there with bland and rebel and Kobe Durant.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, your other corners, you know, you
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: have speed, Kalen Carson's on the team and yeah, that
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: you could get better there if you're going to try
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: to do that. But at some point I think let's
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: just roll the ball and play, you know, I mean, like,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: They've done a nice job with this roster. They've retooled
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the defense. We'll see. But it looks that way. I
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: think at this point, let's go out there and play.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Maybe three or four games into the season, maybe there's
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: an injury or maybe you're not as good in a
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: certain area as you think. And then maybe that's the case.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: But as for right now, unless there's just the sweetheart
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: deal that falls in your lap that you know is
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: a good deal, I kind of want to see what
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: this roster looks like and just go out and play.
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  Speaker 2: Good.
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  Speaker 3: How are you?
• 27:14
  Speaker 16: I'm good. Did the Joe Milton news take you by surprise?
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: A little bit.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: A little bit. It did. Surprising. Understanding it more now,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't mean that it's not surprising. And, you know,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: another example, especially with quarterback, that it's going to look
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: different in the preseason. And what they ask these guys
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: to do in the preseason, what they're going to ask
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: them to do in the regular season is just very,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: very different.
• 27:42
  Speaker 16: Yeah, for sure. And I've said all along, and I've
• 27:45
  Speaker 16: got my numbers in my rooms mixed up a little
• 27:47
  Speaker 16: bit kind of along the way, but I kind of
• 27:49
  Speaker 16: said all along, especially once Camden Brown started to emerge,
• 27:53
  Speaker 16: I think this team wants to have 12 skilled position players.
• 27:57
  Speaker 16: I guess 15 if you want to include tight ends
• 27:59
  Speaker 16: and skilled position guys, but And whatever configuration that means.
• 28:03
  Speaker 16: So you're adding running backs, that means you've got to
• 28:04
  Speaker 16: contract them somewhere else. They don't want to lose Cam Brown,
• 28:07
  Speaker 16: so where are they going to take from? Well, it's
• 28:08
  Speaker 16: quarterback three. Because realistically, at the end of the day,
• 28:11
  Speaker 16: Joe Milton's upside was that he was competing for QB2,
• 28:14
  Speaker 16: and he would be potentially a trade piece down the road.
• 28:16
  Speaker 16: That was his max potential here in Dallas. And as
• 28:20
  Speaker 16: far as 2026, which seems like is what all these
• 28:24
  Speaker 16: moves are adding up to, is competing now in 2026,
• 28:28
  Speaker 16: quarterback three really didn't mean all that much.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 28:30
  Speaker 16: So, yeah, it was surprising to me. But I think
• 28:34
  Speaker 16: in the grand scheme it makes sense. And when you
• 28:35
  Speaker 16: look at, like, yesterday during his press conference, Nick Harris
• 28:38
  Speaker 16: asked a question about limited roster space, right? And Shadi said,
• 28:43
  Speaker 16: this is exactly– I can't remember the last time I've
• 28:46
  Speaker 16: been part of a team carrying three quarterbacks. I know
• 28:49
  Speaker 16: it does happen, but it's a physical game. When you're
• 28:51
  Speaker 16: in this thing for the long haul, if we are,
• 28:52
  Speaker 16: it does come in consideration. So quarterback three is not
• 28:54
  Speaker 16: playing special teams, not doing really– anything but sitting there
• 28:57
  Speaker 16: and learning and developing and he's there in case of
• 28:59
  Speaker 16: an emergency right and so uh i went back looking
• 29:03
  Speaker 16: shy did not carry a third quarterback last year last
• 29:05
  Speaker 16: time i did was 2024 and that was only because
• 29:07
  Speaker 16: that got hurt right they elevated the practice squad guy
• 29:10
  Speaker 16: in that situation so i don't think it's when you
• 29:13
  Speaker 16: actually like sit back and look at the whole thing
• 29:15
  Speaker 16: it's not really that surprising i think just in the
• 29:17
  Speaker 16: moment i probably took people back and if this is
• 29:19
  Speaker 16: our biggest complaint man we're we're in pretty dang good
• 29:21
  Speaker 16: shape here in 2026.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Right yeah.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to sit here and say that
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I wasn't surprised because I was and I'm going off
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: of what I see.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: But, you know, I.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Think it comes down to who is ready to play
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: on game day because you got to remember these guys.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: get limited reps. And so when you think to the
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: backup quarterbacks, typically, especially here in Dallas, those guys aren't
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: aren't the flashiest, big, strong, fast guy. Those are the
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: guys that are the ones that, you know, that are
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: just really smart. And they they they don't necessarily have
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: the strongest arm in the world, the Jason Garrett's, the
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Cooper Rush. But they take advantage of those mental reps
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: and they're ready to play.
• 30:06
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I guess obviously with this question, too, do you
• 30:08
  Speaker 16: think he, and maybe you don't know, maybe he's just
• 30:11
  Speaker 16: an uneducated guess here, but do you think he ends
• 30:13
  Speaker 16: up back here on the practice squad, or do you
• 30:14
  Speaker 16: think he goes somewhere else if he has a chance
• 30:16
  Speaker 16: to develop and maybe compete for a QB2 or start
• 30:19
  Speaker 16: a role down the road somewhere else?
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he obviously cleared waivers, so I think
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: that surprised some there. And then I think now, I
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: don't know what his options are, I think– I mean,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys did want him back or do want him back.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: And so they're going to have to get a quarterback.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: There's one spot left on the practice squad. They could
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: be working that right now as we speak. But they're
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: not going to go too much longer without having that
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: spot filled with a quarterback. I think obviously the preference
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: is Joe, but he's got to weigh his options too. And,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: you know, for him– If there are other options, and
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I would imagine there are for the practice squad, then
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I would think that somewhere else is probably a better
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: situation for him. Just when you factor in that the
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Cowboys have, I think, a top 10 quarterback. I'm not
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: getting into all that right now. I'm ranking them. But
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: a veteran guy that is not getting pushed by anyone
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: on the team. He's the guy. He's the leader.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: So....
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: There's not a lot of teams that have that. And
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: then there's the backup that has already beaten him out.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: So coming here and being the clear-cut number three as
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: opposed to going somewhere else where the quarterback position may
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: be a little bit more unstable. So it seems like
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: if there are a lot of options for him or
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: several options, I think another place might make more sense
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: to him. But you also have to learn New system,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: new terminology, all that stuff, when you can come back
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: here and kind of be a part of it and
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: continue to develop. So I see advantages both ways. Let's
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: go to Jeremy in Salt Lake City.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Jeremy.
• 32:10
  Speaker 12: Hey, what's going on, Nick?
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: How you doing?
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: Good.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: It's been a while, man.
• 32:14
  Speaker 12: It's been harder and harder. Good problem to have, right? Uh-huh, right.
• 32:18
  Speaker 12: Just to get in. But, yeah, a couple things. I
• 32:24
  Speaker 12: agree with the Milton thing. But I also think there's
• 32:27
  Speaker 12: something else going on that we're not going to know
• 32:29
  Speaker 12: until like a year from now. There's an underlying story
• 32:32
  Speaker 12: there because I don't see why you'd keep him the first,
• 32:37
  Speaker 12: you know, on Sunday night, decide to go with three
• 32:40
  Speaker 12: quarterbacks and then all of a sudden– switch it up.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 32:44
  Speaker 12: There's just, I think there's something more to that story
• 32:47
  Speaker 12: that we'll find out later and I'm not going to
• 32:48
  Speaker 12: speculate on it, but getting back to kind of, um, I.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Can speculate on it right now. I mean, teams do
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: it all the time. You, you, you wait a day.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: So everybody else will kind of get their practice squad
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: kind of in order, their team in order. And then
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden you make that move right there.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: So you have a better chance of, of, Keeping him
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: back on the practice squad.
• 33:09
  Speaker 12: Yeah, but then you're kind of strong-arming the player, right,
• 33:14
  Speaker 12: and kind of pissing off the player. So I would
• 33:19
  Speaker 12: imagine there's some animosity at some point.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't... Yes, there is, and there's animosity
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: with a lot of guys that got cut. I'm sure
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Sam Williams wasn't real happy about either, being the Ed
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Block Courage Award winner, being on the field with the
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: training staff, highlighting his recovery from injury and then getting
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: cut a couple days later. I mean, there's a lot
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: of that going on, but I don't think there's something
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: that's going to come out in a year. I think
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: that's exactly what the Cowboys were doing with Milton. But
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: you could be right. There could be more to it.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: There could be more to it, but there could be...
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: this quarterback's a better option for them, and he's got
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: guaranteed money. He's got guaranteed money, and they think he's
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: a better option. They always thought he was a better option.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: That's why they gave him guaranteed money when they signed
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Sam Howell.
• 34:05
  Speaker 12: Yeah, just with all these stories, like the truth about
• 34:09
  Speaker 12: Micah came out a couple– well, not the truth, but
• 34:11
  Speaker 12: like Jerry finally talks about him being on the training
• 34:14
  Speaker 12: table last week. You know what I mean? It's always
• 34:17
  Speaker 12: kind of one of them things where– You find out
• 34:19
  Speaker 12: later on that there's a whole lot going on that
• 34:22
  Speaker 12: none of us know about. You know what I mean?
• 34:24
  Speaker 12: That's the only point I was trying to make with that.
• 34:26
  Speaker 12: And to Albert's point in Tucson, I grew up in
• 34:31
  Speaker 12: southeastern Idaho.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Shout out to Pocatello.
• 34:34
  Speaker 12: We didn't have national teams, right? So, like, if you're
• 34:38
  Speaker 12: one of those big fans that's in one of those areas–
• 34:42
  Speaker 12: You're right. It was either Steelers or Cowboys because I
• 34:45
  Speaker 12: grew up in the 70s, and it was either Dodgers
• 34:47
  Speaker 12: or Yankees or Lakers or Celtics, right? So that's why
• 34:50
  Speaker 12: you find a lot of these Cowboys fans that are
• 34:53
  Speaker 12: Lakers and Yankees fans, too, because that's all we saw
• 34:57
  Speaker 12: on TV growing up. And that's the only choice you had.
• 35:01
  Speaker 12: Unless you had TBS, you could cheer for the Braves, right?
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 35:05
  Speaker 12: But it's just kind of weird. But I used to
• 35:07
  Speaker 12: live in Tucson, and there is a huge, huge Dallas
• 35:10
  Speaker 12: Cowboy presence down there. Everybody's Cowboys fans. There's not a
• 35:14
  Speaker 12: lot of Cardinals fans at all, even now. It's kind
• 35:16
  Speaker 12: of funny. Just side note to his point. But, yeah,
• 35:21
  Speaker 12: I just wanted to say thanks for the shirt. I'm
• 35:24
  Speaker 12: really excited about the season. I haven't been this excited
• 35:28
  Speaker 12: about actually just seeing the product on the field. in
• 35:33
  Speaker 12: about three years now, right? So I'm pretty excited, and
• 35:37
  Speaker 12: I can't wait. Go Cowboys, and thanks for all you
• 35:39
  Speaker 12: guys do.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: All right, appreciate it. Thank you for the call, Jeremy.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: You know, if you're a Cardinal fan, though, you come
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: back with, well, yeah, there's a lot of Cowboy fans here.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Why can't you win? I mean, it's unbelievable the way
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: the series has gone right now with the recent series
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: between the Cowboys. And the Cardinals, I think they haven't
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: won a regular season game in almost 10 years. They're
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: nine years since 2017. And it's been a lot longer
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: than that than they won at home. But they're going
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: to get another chance. Cardinals come here, I think, in
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: November to face the Cowboys. All right, let's go to
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: IMA in Napa.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Hey, good morning, Nick.
• 36:21
  Speaker 12: How are you?
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: How are you doing?
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: I'm doing great, man.
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: Thanks for asking. Man, I don't want to get all
• 36:29
  Speaker 9: off topic. I really was bouncing in and out on
• 36:32
  Speaker 9: the show because I was trying to call in. Getting
• 36:36
  Speaker 9: back to the roster and stuff, I just feel like
• 36:41
  Speaker 9: Shottie and the whole staff goes back to the culture.
• 36:46
  Speaker 9: You had mentioned it a little bit in the last show,
• 36:49
  Speaker 9: but I think he's set in a culture where and
• 36:54
  Speaker 9: all of the decisions that it looks like they were made,
• 36:56
  Speaker 9: you know, were all based off of, like, this year. Like,
• 37:00
  Speaker 9: nobody was, I don't think anybody was, like, planned for
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: in the future except for the draft picks, right? There
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: was a few draft guys that were like, oh, he
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: could probably turn into something, but it seems like everybody
• 37:11
  Speaker 9: else was like, strap him on, be ready to go, huh?
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, you're right. I mean, that's what the culture
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: that he's trying to build, and, yes, there are some
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: players who, that you don't want to give up on,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: but they weren't doing it with second-year guys. They did
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: it with rookies, but I think that goes to show that, okay,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: First year, Jaden Blue, Phil Moffa, Jay Toye, all those guys.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: But by the second year, you better show something. So
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: apparently Johnny Cornelius has done that to be that guy,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: to be one of the backups. But I think it
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: used to be two, three years down the road. Now
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: it's just one year after that. And even Anthony Smith,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: seventh-round pick as a rookie, didn't get. He got passed
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: over by Camden Brown. So, yeah, I mean, it's a
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: win-now mentality.
• 38:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I completely agree. Like, just looking, like, you know,
• 38:07
  Speaker 9: a couple of guys, like, man, he looks like he
• 38:11
  Speaker 9: could do something. You know, maybe he's not ready, but, yeah,
• 38:14
  Speaker 9: he went for the guys that were ready. And, you know,
• 38:17
  Speaker 9: as far as, like, Jaden Blue, like, nobody really said
• 38:20
  Speaker 9: anything about this, but, like, early on in camp, like,
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: right before the first preseason game, there was an interview
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: that you all had put up And one of the
• 38:30
  Speaker 9: first questions he was asked was like, oh, you ready
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: to go? What do you think about how much you're
• 38:34
  Speaker 9: going to play or whatever? And his response was, yeah, hopefully, like,
• 38:40
  Speaker 9: I break one real quick and then I'm able to
• 38:42
  Speaker 9: get some rest or, you know, sit out or something.
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: And for a guy that's fighting for, you know, playing time,
• 38:51
  Speaker 9: you know, eventually, like, you want to be the starter, like,
• 38:55
  Speaker 9: that response just seemed off and You know, he kind of, like,
• 38:59
  Speaker 9: muffled it and then just went on, you know. But
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: it was a weird answer, and I think it's just, again,
• 39:07
  Speaker 9: culture and everything. Coaches play people they trust, you know,
• 39:12
  Speaker 9: and if you can't trust what you're going to do
• 39:14
  Speaker 9: out there, you're.
• 39:15
  Speaker 8: Not going to play.
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: You don't care how dynamic you may be. I can't
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: trust you to do everything you're supposed to do. Your
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: responsibilities can't put you out there, and with our team,
• 39:25
  Speaker 9: Looks like you're not making the team then, man. and
• 39:29
  Speaker 9: i'm all for it i believe in shoddy i believe
• 39:31
  Speaker 9: in the staff let's go cowboys i'll talk to you
• 39:34
  Speaker 9: later nick you have a great weekend.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Thanks i mean um yeah we haven't really talked about
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: the jayden blue but i mean you're right that's what
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: it comes down to i mean they they could have
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: you know he's got traits that that you want to
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: continue to work with but uh The biggest part was
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: the culture. And, you know, there's some guys that were cut,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Milton being one of them. A lot of these Sam
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Williams guys, they're like, you know, are they coming back?
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: They could come back to the practice squad. Phil Moffitt,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: could they come back? Jaden Blue wasn't coming back to
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: the practice squad. He wasn't invited back to the practice squad.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: He was not on the team. He's not on the
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: team anymore for a reason. And, you know, there's– a
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: few people probably in the organization that were fine with that.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: You know, like you said, it's just, it just comes
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: down to just the mindset. Sometimes it's just a fit thing.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: You know, it just doesn't fit with the team. And
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: if we're going to be fair about it, you know,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think George Pickens fit with the, with the Steelers.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: It just, it didn't fit for them. And they were,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: there were people that were ready for him to go.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: And he, you know, and he comes here and he's,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: he's fitting, you know, I mean, and, and, you know,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: more ways than one. And so I don't want to
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: knock Jaden Blue for, you know, for being a young
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: guy that just still has to kind of figure it out.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: But there's some things about being a professional football player
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: that he still has to figure out. And it's more
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: than just running the football. It's, you know, it's hanging
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: on to the football for one, but it's also doing
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: other things that you have to be a complete back,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: complete player. And he just hasn't gotten to that point.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: So he's in Philly. He's on their practice squad. We'll
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: see what happens there. All right, let's go to break.
• 41:24
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• 42:55
  Speaker 2: let's go to Palmer in Dallas. Palmer, what is up?
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: Hey.
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: Hey, Nick. Great work, man.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: I really appreciate all you and your team do.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you. That's two calls from Dallas today. What's happening
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: here in this world?
• 43:11
  Speaker 12: Love it.
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: Man, I wish I wasn't in Dallas, but I am.
• 43:15
  Speaker 10: So it is what it is.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: One thing I haven't heard anyone talk about offseason, because
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: everything seems to be so positive, is Dak Prescott's 2-5
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: playoff record. And I hear a lot of talk. I
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: do believe there's a lot better leadership on this defense.
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: There's a lot more skins on the wall for the
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: defensive players for this unit. And if this defense finishes
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: 15th in the league at the end of the year
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: and Dallas makes the playoff and they exit in round
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: one or two, there's going to be serious, serious needs
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: to look into quarterback.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: I view.
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: The quarterback of an NFL team is the hardest position
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: in all of sports. And it's the CEO of a corporation.
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: And when your CEO of your corporation has five or
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: six side pieces while engaged to be married, I would
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: be hesitant or bearish on buying that company's stock. Now,
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: that being said, Nick, maybe he's like Tiger Woods. and
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: he'll just be better unencumbered, free-willing it. Who knows? But
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: I just really haven't heard anyone. I'm not a Dak hater.
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: I think we're pretty lucky to have Dak. He wins
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: us games that some other quarterbacks we just wouldn't win,
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: but that is regular season. And my biggest concern going
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: into this year is our quarterback, because I do believe
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: offensively they finally have all the pieces around the quarterback.
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: I do believe they have made significant strides on their defense,
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: not only in the coaching department but also in the
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: player acquisition and player development. But I just, in all
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: the hoopla, and I really like listening to you, Nick,
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: because you.
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: Kind of keep it real.
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: You don't get the hype going or the too low going.
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: But I haven't heard anyone in the last week or
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: two really talk about the playoff record of our starting quarterbacks.
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: And I would just like your insights on that. I
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: appreciate you taking my call, man.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: All right, thanks for the call. You know, honestly, as
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: silly as this is going to sound, I don't think
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: people talk about the playoff record so much in the
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: summer because... the playoffs aren't here. Like that's not the
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: goal that this team hasn't made the playoffs in two
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: years that his playoff record is, is not the issue
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: right now. They got to get to the playoffs. This
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: team hasn't been good enough to get to the playoffs.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Simple as that. It's not a Josh Allen Buffalo thing
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: where they can't get over the hump. They can't get
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: into the, they couldn't get off seven wins now, two
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: years in a row. So eight wins and, Is not
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: going to get you in the playoffs either. Neither is
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: nine and 10 is going to be maybe. So they
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: aren't close to even being in the situation there. Is
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: he the reason why? I don't necessarily think so. In
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: the last two years, I wouldn't say that Dak is
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: the main reason why they haven't been good enough to
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: make it to the playoffs. And if you believe that,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: and you don't have to believe that, but if you
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: do believe that, okay, so now let's go into 2-5 record.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: If we're really going to go there, is he the
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: reason that they are 2-5? He hadn't played well in
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: some of those games. There's no doubt about it. He hasn't.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Some that he did, and they weren't good enough. Defense
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: wasn't good enough there, but.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: But to me, none of that, I don't look at
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: that as, as, as it pertains to anything moving forward,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: moving forward, this team needs to, to, to go and
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: get into the playoffs. And then from there, go do it.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, it didn't do it until he did it.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean like drew breeze, same way. A
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: lot of these guys, you know, they, they are what
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: they are until they, they get there and then, and
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: then they, it finally, it clicks, it works for them. But, um,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: make no mistake now who the leader of this football
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: team is and why and for what he does in
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: the locker room. To say I'm not a Dak hater
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: and throw out some of the things you said, if
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: you think that stuff matters and you want to say it,
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: I thought that's taking shots for things that nobody really
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: knows about or really cares about because when it comes
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: inside here within the walls of this place, He's the
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: leader of the football team, and he's the number one
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: option for not only quarterback, but also their best player
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: by far. And that's what matters the most for this
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: football team and the success. But they've got to get
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: to the playoffs. They've got to get there. No one's
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: talking about his playoff record because that doesn't matter right now.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: His record as a starting quarterback hasn't been good enough
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: to get into the dance, and that's the number one goal. Alright,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: one more caller. Let's go Lester. What's up, man?
• 48:24
  Speaker 10: Hey, Nick. I'm just going to touch on Dak a
• 48:27
  Speaker 10: little bit. That's not why I called, but you know, yes,
• 48:31
  Speaker 10: some of the games in the playoffs was a little
• 48:35
  Speaker 10: bit contributed to him, but it takes a team. I mean,
• 48:38
  Speaker 10: you know, of course, I'm disappointed about the 2-5 record, too,
• 48:42
  Speaker 10: but it takes a team. So, it's not all his fault,
• 48:47
  Speaker 10: but As they say, the cliche goes, the quarterback gets
• 48:50
  Speaker 10: most of the praise when they go well and most
• 48:53
  Speaker 10: of the blame when they don't go well.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: Right, right.
• 48:55
  Speaker 10: So that's just the way it is. Let's look forward.
• 48:58
  Speaker 10: Let's look at this year. We're looking good. Dak's feeling good.
• 49:02
  Speaker 10: We've got the Dak yard and all the other stuff
• 49:05
  Speaker 10: that he's doing. He's taking people on vacations or whatever,
• 49:08
  Speaker 10: you know, to kind of, you know, get together and–
• 49:15
  Speaker 10: and get to know one another. So let's just look forward.
• 49:18
  Speaker 10: We're all disappointed. about the two and five. Let's look forward.
• 49:22
  Speaker 10: But anyway, that's not the reason why I called. I
• 49:25
  Speaker 10: called about I do like most of the moves that
• 49:30
  Speaker 10: they did with the roster as of today. I don't
• 49:36
  Speaker 10: really have a complaint. Not really, but I have a
• 49:41
  Speaker 10: little bit of a concern. I've been noticing that every year,
• 49:46
  Speaker 10: why do we keep four and a half tight ends?
• 49:51
  Speaker 10: I'm counting Lipke, I hope he's saying his name right,
• 49:56
  Speaker 10: as like a half a tight end because he's a
• 49:58
  Speaker 10: utility guy. So we've got three tight ends on the roster,
• 50:02
  Speaker 10: the half, and then the long snapper. I mean, why
• 50:07
  Speaker 10: do we have four and a half tight ends? I
• 50:10
  Speaker 10: figure the spots are real precious. We could just have
• 50:15
  Speaker 10: a backup center doing the long snapping, and that could
• 50:19
  Speaker 10: create another roster spot for whatever else they feel as
• 50:25
  Speaker 10: though they need. I'm not going to sit here and say, well,
• 50:27
  Speaker 10: they need this, that, or whatever. Whatever they feel they need,
• 50:30
  Speaker 10: that's a roster spot in my opinion. And that's all
• 50:33
  Speaker 10: I got today, Nick.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:35
  Speaker 10: Go Cowboys.
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I disagree with you on that. First of all,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever heard of Trent Sig being
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: a tight end. And if he is, if you're going
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: to call Lipke half a tight end, then Sig is
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: half a tight end as well also. So you really
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: got three tight ends. And then you got two other
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: guys maybe that could do that. But– Go ahead and
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: play around with the deep snapping position and get a
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: guy that's a backup tight end that can do it
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: occasionally and see what happens when the game's on the
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: line and you've got a 57-yard field goal and you
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: think Aubrey can make it, but all of a sudden
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: the snap is low and you don't even get the
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: kickoff and you lose the game. Or a punt sails
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: over the punter's head, the back of the end zone.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: I've seen it happen. I saw the year that they
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: went on with the new deep snapper in 2001 and
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: let Hellestray go. That deep snapper lost a couple of
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: games for them that year. So I think it's a
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: very valuable part of the equation to have a guy
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: that specializes in doing it and not someone that maybe
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: could do it here and there. All right, let's go. Actually,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: we have one more call. Rob in Vegas will be
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: our last call.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Rob.
• 51:55
  Speaker 9: Hey, Nick.
• 51:56
  Speaker 12: Hey.
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: I'm a ray of sunshine compared to Palmer.
• 51:59
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 52:01
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I love it. Not a decade or, but.
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: Sort of throw some, some, but I criticize, I criticize
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: that as much as anybody, but to be honest, he's
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: the least of my worries on this team.
• 52:13
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: You know, you know, my only concern with him is injuries.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: Other than that, we say it all the time. He's
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: a top 10 quarterback where you want to put them.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: It don't matter. Right. I got a better chance with
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: them than without them. My question is, Joe Milton, we
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: talked about it. I thought he played much better than
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: last year. When they bring a guy back to the
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: practice squad, is the pay the same across the league?
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: Or can the Cowboys say, hey, we'll pay you more
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: money than let's just say this team? Or is it
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: just a flat rate?
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, that's a good question because those rules
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: have changed because the type of player has changed, you know,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: over the years because you can now bring veterans in.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: It used to just be you had to be in
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: that first or second year, so the salary was the same.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: But now I'm pretty sure that they, you know, but
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: it still all goes under the cap. So it has
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: to fit under the cap. And so, yeah, you can
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: pay a player higher than your other guy, your first
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: or second year running back, whatever. You definitely can. But
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: it still fits into the salary cap the same way.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: When you talk about player, you know, like, well, the
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Cowboys have some website might say they have $ 30 million
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: under the cap. Why aren't they going to get this guy? Well,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: it's because they're already factoring in the practice squad. They
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: factor in that there's going to be injuries. They factor
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: in that they're going to elevate two players to the
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: team every single week. So all that money is kind
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: of factored in. So my point is, is that it
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: has to fit under the salary cap.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: You know, at first when they cut him, I thought,
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: you know, they did him a favor. You know, he'd
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: go out, and now that nobody claimed him, I thought
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: maybe he won't come back because he's, you know, disgruntled. Maybe, yeah.
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: You know, but then I said to Mike, you know,
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: I heard somebody say something on the radio, and I agree.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: You know, he's got a couple of years invested, and
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: he took such a big jump from last year to
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: this year. And let's face it, the only guy... okay,
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: he ain't going to be Dak, but the only guy
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: standing in his way is Sam Howell. And Sam Howell
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: is not like the future. So I, if they're going
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: to give them really good advice, they should say, listen,
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: I know you're pissed off, but you know, Jack, you know,
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: got the big goes down. Sam Howell has one bad game.
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: You're right in there. So maybe he, you know, I'm
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: sure his purse, the person's like, get me the hell
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: out of here. They don't, They don't respect me. They
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: don't take them. But now that, you know, the dust
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: has settled and 31 other teams said, nah, I think
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: he'll probably come back. I think it'd be the best move.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: You know, that's why I was asking about the money.
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: Unless somebody says, we're going to give you more money because,
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: you know, let's face it, money talks.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Right, of course. Yeah, and it definitely does. But also,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: you know, opportunity.
• 55:14
  Speaker 12: Here.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Cause I think you go somewhere else and there's, it's
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: not as clear cut of who the starter is necessarily
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: and what the future is of the team and the
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: position and who can be the backup where you come here. You,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: you kind of, you are, you know, you are going
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: to be number three, but there's advantages. As I said,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: there's advantages to both, both sides. So, all right.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:37
  Speaker 12: All right.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: I'll talk to you next time.
• 55:39
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Have a good one. Calls himself the Ray of Sunshine.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: How about that from Robin Vegas? All right, guys, good stuff.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: This is our last show of the off-season, right? This
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: is the off-season. The schedule's different and all that kind
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: of stuff. This is it. Wednesday of this week, we
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: don't have a show. Tomorrow, it's not our schedule. And
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: then Friday, there are no shows. Monday, there's no shows
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: because of the holiday, Labor Day. But on Tuesday, we're back. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Friday of next week. So the off-season... As far as
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: shows go, this is it. This is the last one.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: So that's a wrap to the offseason. That means that's
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: another example. It's time to play some football here before
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: we know it. All right, for Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eatman.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: We'll see you next Tuesday on Cowboy Storyline.
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• 56:31
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  Speaker 14: How about this, Cowboys?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah!