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- 0:00Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics, and
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- 0:23made of Stars, Made of stars? Made stars? You could be from
- 0:35Highllywood, New Mexico, Mars. Where are stars? We are made of
- 0:54stars? Joined by my good friend doctor Sean Cruising from Columba State University's Colcola
- 0:58Space Science Center. I'm Wes Carol, morning, Sean. May the fourth
- 1:02be with you. May the fourth be with you. They were doing this
- 1:06on May the fourth or anything. But you know, oh, oh we
- 1:07are actually But okay, I watched at the gym this morning a good chunk
- 1:14of rogue one while I was on the elliptical, and I couldn't help but
- 1:17appreciate. You know, jenn Urso's nickname Stardust that her dad had for her,
- 1:22and I thought, oh, that really fits in with the whole made
- 1:23of stars things. She started us, We're all star dust. We are
- 1:29all star dust, and that is the point of the title of this show,
- 1:32ladies and gentlemen, and we should do a whole show based on that,
- 1:34just like you know, Interstellar Medium and production of Heavy Elements and the
- 1:38core of Supernova and all kinds of cool stuff. We could talk about that
- 1:42for an entire show, but that's not this show today. So but yes
- 1:46it is. It is May the fourth, and we do appreciate all of
- 1:49those geeks out there like us who are Star Wars fans. And I'll be
- 1:53you know, finishing Rogue one today and I'll figure out what the next Star
- 1:57Wars movie is that I'll watch before the days over or there's no TV shows
- 2:00and things that I could could watch as well, rewatch, I should say,
- 2:04But let's talk about some uh you know, more scythe than sci fi,
- 2:09and talk about a different starship altogether than one of the ones in Star
- 2:15Wars, although I do know Elon Musk likes to you know, tie some
- 2:19Star Wars into the naming of some of his ships and things. But let's
- 2:23talk about a continuing story that we've had over the past few weeks, the
- 2:28successful or was it launch and then we had the no, it wasn't quite
- 2:32so successful because you know, it caused a whole lot of damage, you
- 2:38know, miles away. And then now it's the talk about well when can
- 2:42we try to launch again? And Elon Musk says we could be ready to
- 2:46go in a couple of months. Yeah, so I know that there's I
- 2:53have the impression that there's comments out there that we're SpaceX fan boys, and
- 2:57because we're always talking about SpaceX. But let's just let's just face it,
- 3:00ladies and gentlemen in the aerospace industry, they might be the most interesting company
- 3:05out there right or there might be the most interesting organization worldwide in terms of
- 3:10just putting things in space. So that's why they come up a lot,
- 3:14and they are moving on a variety of fronts. We're not even going to
- 3:17cover a story today about SpaceX where they now have some record number of satellites
- 3:23in their Starlink cluster alone. We're not even gonna talk about that they just
- 3:29launched yesterday whatever. Anyway, so I know, I know, I for
- 3:34the SpaceX family because I'm a SpaceX fanboy, I happen to sneak that in
- 3:38anyway, No, I'm not really, But anyways, so SpaceX, though
- 3:40clearly has the most interesting story for the last several weeks, which is they
- 3:46blew up a really giant rocket. They did manage to launch it, it
- 3:52did a horrendous amount of damage to their launchpad, and they got it into
- 3:58the sky, not really orbit, at which point they had to blow it
- 4:02up, and then it didn't blow up right away. So this is a
- 4:05big story, right because there's ramifications of all of those things, and so
- 4:11SpaceX themselves, Elon Muskin a tweet says six to eight weeks they're ready to
- 4:16go again. Six weeks on the early end. That's a month and a
- 4:26half to completely rebuild their launch pad that was really heavily damaged, to have
- 4:34all of the launch protocols that they should have learned from this flight already diagnosed
- 4:42and in place, ready to launch in six weeks on the early end.
- 4:49And when you say that they're the most interesting company anywhere that's launching things into
- 4:58space, this ties in to that. I mean, this is part of
- 5:00why they're so interesting because they can go from yeay, we just launched the
- 5:05biggest rocket ever to oh, by the way, you it caused damage,
- 5:10you know, in a six mile radius from your launch side and completely destroyed
- 5:14the launch pad. And oh my gosh, there's gonna be a whole lot
- 5:17of problems with the FAA and you're trying to get this. Oh, we
- 5:21could be ready to go in eight weeks. That's why they're interesting, it
- 5:26is, I mean, and it's almost like, you know, Elon Musk's
- 5:29tweets are so interesting, it's almost like he should buy the company. You
- 5:32would think that would be a good investment for him. Yeah, I mean,
- 5:35he might as well, he tweets. Oh wait anyway, So all
- 5:39right, so here we are. Six to eight weeks is a statement put
- 5:43out by SpaceX. Now, serious forecasters are saying, well, SpaceX does
- 5:50move quickly, so in terms of the launchpad logistics and getting the rocket ready
- 5:57to go, maybe inside six months they can be ready to launch. Again
- 6:00those that's a little bit more serious commentary I've read out there in other sources.
- 6:05However, they now have giant legal battles because they have to resecure their
- 6:13FAA license from the US Federal Aviation Administration and GALLI. They had some complications,
- 6:21didn't they. Yeah, they sprayed rocks and sand all over, as
- 6:26you say, a very large radius, which included other communities, wildlife refuge
- 6:32areas, and homes, beaches and roads in the near vicinity. Elon's again
- 6:40tweeting, Oh well that was nothing. Really, there's nothing really bad in
- 6:43all that. Nothing really talks. It just a bunch of rocks and sand.
- 6:46Yeah. Well, people get a little they get a little antsy when
- 6:49you're throwing rocks and sand on their homes and on you know, the habitats
- 6:56of animals that could go extinct. So you know, there, you gotta
- 7:00you can't just bypass all of that. But the biggest thing, believe it
- 7:03or not, is not the launchpad, not what happened there. I mean,
- 7:08that's a thing for sure, but not the biggest thing. The biggest
- 7:12hang up in their relicensing could potentially be the fact that their flight termination system
- 7:18didn't blow up their rocket right away. I mean, it's like, oh
- 7:23my gosh, this thing's going out of control. Hit the self destruct button.
- 7:27Hit the self destruct button. Somebody pushes the big red button, click
- 7:30and nothing happens. And I'm sure there was a few more, you know,
- 7:33click click click click click click click click cick click click click click cickick
- 7:39blow the thing up. Because it was forty seconds later, it was a
- 7:44full forty seconds Now that seems like a short time, not even a minute.
- 7:49But when you're trying to explode the world's largest rocket, the most powerful
- 7:55rocket that's ever launched, because it's spiraling out of control over the coast of
- 8:00Texas, forty seconds is an eternity, ladies and gentlemen. And when you
- 8:05say and when you say the world's biggest rocket, at that point, it's
- 8:11the world's biggest projectile, you know, I mean, this is something that
- 8:16has been flung and you need it to blow up. I would say,
- 8:20you know, maybe two three seconds. It's probably a reasonable amount of time.
- 8:24Forty is a lot. It's it's the size of a forty story building.
- 8:31Just get that picture in your head. It's nearly this. It's like
- 8:35a thirty nine story building full of rocket fuel, spinning above the coast of
- 8:43Texas, and miraculously the two sections holding together through some very rapid rotation.
- 8:50You see, the Starship vehicle was on top of the SpaceX booster, super
- 8:58heavy booster, and yet they weren't coming unattached, so they were just simply
- 9:05spinning away. And meanwhile, the sound of click, click, click,
- 9:07click click could be heard somewhere in the SpaceX control room. I'm sure.
- 9:11I mean, I wasn't there. I don't know if this button has a
- 9:13click function, because that's rather tactle, and I'm sure it was an electronic
- 9:18thing. But yet somehow my brain says there was some dude back. They're
- 9:22just going click click, click, click, please blow up, please blow
- 9:26up, self destruct, self destruct, And forty seconds elapsed before it happened.
- 9:31I just have this image of them hitting the button over and over again.
- 9:35And then someone is sitting somewhere in an office somewhere else in the building,
- 9:37and the lights are going on and off, and they're going, what
- 9:39is going on? Trying to watch this launch? What is happening with the
- 9:43lights in here? So there's something called the Twitter space Talk, And on
- 9:50Saturday's episode of the Twitter spaces spaces Talk, I'm sorry Twitter spaces Talk.
- 9:56And on Saturday's episode, I don't do this much anyway, I'm not I'm
- 9:58not social media guy anyway. Okay, So somewhere on Saturday's Twitter spaces Talk,
- 10:03Elon Musk had this quote, the longest lead item is probably is probably
- 10:09requalification of the flight termination system. So he's even kind of hat tipping to
- 10:16the fact that, yeah, this is going to be the hardest part to
- 10:20get taken care of, because you know, even though you're blowing up your
- 10:24own launchpad and you're causing some ecological damage and maybe blown out a couple of
- 10:28windows with pressure waves and certainly things you don't want giant forty story rockets spiraling
- 10:35over the Texas coast and not self destructive when you're sending the code. That
- 10:41seems like a bigger deal. So, to continue his quote, that's obviously
- 10:45something that we want to make sure of before proceeding with the next flight.
- 10:50You think, I mean, I think the FAA would agree with you,
- 10:54Elon, on that case. So so there you go. I mean,
- 10:58and hey, they have amazing success rates at fixing their problems in reasonably short
- 11:07order and getting things to actually launch again in times that seem, you know,
- 11:13amazingly fast compared to shall we say, legacy space companies. However,
- 11:18this seems like a This seems like a bigger hurdle from a legal perspective than
- 11:22would fit into a window of six to eight weeks. Now, in fairness,
- 11:28I think that's Elon talking about all of the mechanical components, and not
- 11:33necessarily that he believes he's going to get cleared by the FAA and all the
- 11:37environmental lawsuits which are now taking place to launch that sucker again in six to
- 11:41eight weeks. But he kind of sounds like it, doesn't he. I
- 11:45mean, I don't know, it's just it's just tweets, But I don't
- 11:48know. Yeah, well, you know, tweet tweet tweeting this. I
- 11:54mean you kind of wonder if he playing a little bit of the game with
- 11:58the FAA. Is this a little bit of a hey, we're intending to
- 12:01do this. I mean, it's not like his rocket is something that he
- 12:05can, you know, take to another country and launch it, is it?
- 12:09I mean, and he really wanted to try to launch from elsewhere if
- 12:15there's a lot you have to move to get it there. I mean,
- 12:18that was my next thought, is when I saw that he was talking about
- 12:22trying to get it done, and I thought, well, the FAA's involved,
- 12:24I think it's going to take longer than that. And then in my
- 12:28brain all I could think was, is there any possibility that he could get
- 12:33this thing elsewhere and launch it? If that's what he was going to try
- 12:35to do, And it just doesn't seem feasible to move this thing somewhere else
- 12:39to launch it. So it would have to be from Texas, right,
- 12:43I mean, he's got to rebuild the infrastructure anyway, and he does have
- 12:48the resources to move it. I mean I suppose, I suppose if there's
- 12:54a small island off French Guiana or wherever. I mean, I don't know,
- 12:58Yeah, then he has to contend with their version of the FA I
- 13:01don't know, but it's an interesting idea. I mean, a Bond supervillain
- 13:07would certainly buy their own island and just rebuild their own launch pad outside the
- 13:11auspices of the Federal Aviation Administration. I still picture the John Lovett's character from
- 13:18The bench Warmers, you know, trying to build a new launch site,
- 13:20new launchpad and just saying keep it under a billion. That's all I've got
- 13:26on me. So we are talking about Elon. Let's move on to another
- 13:33story. This story about nearby asteroid that the scientists have discovered some of the
- 13:39same properties as our moon and it could be a chunk of the moon.
- 13:43Yeah. So this is a really interesting story. It's on Universe today dot
- 13:46com and it's featured elsewhere. But Universe Today is a certainly a great site,
- 13:52and that's where I saw this story. So the question is there's an
- 13:56asteroid that's nearby the Earth, and could it be a chunk of the Moon.
- 14:01There's the question, right, and so well, how would a chunk
- 14:05of the Moon end up becoming an asteroid? Yeah, so what would have
- 14:09to happen is in one of those really large impacts that happened a long time
- 14:13ago. There have been no recent impacts that could have done this. That's
- 14:18in parentheses, So one of those that's a parenthetical thought. One of those
- 14:24long ago impacts that left very large holes in the surface of the Moon could
- 14:28potentially have thrown off a large enough chunk of the Moon that, because of
- 14:35the combined gravity of the Earth and Moon's system, was grasped into an orbit
- 14:41that's similar to Earth's orbit around the Sun. And now it's nearby. So
- 14:48to be clear, Earth only has one natural satellite, and that is the
- 14:52Moon itself. But there are these things called quasi satellites which certainly interact with
- 15:00Earth's orbit, and if you were just to kind of watch them and not
- 15:01really think about the physics that was going on, they might actually because of
- 15:05their weaving pattern of going both closer to the Sun than we are and farther
- 15:11from the Sun than we are. It might look like they're orbiting the Earth.
- 15:16However, what they're doing is they're really orbiting the Sun. They're orbiting
- 15:20the Sun while also interacting with the gravitation of both the Earth and the Moon,
- 15:24mostly the Earth, and then that's causing them to weave in and out
- 15:30of Earth's orbit as they progress around the Sun. So sometimes that these asteroids
- 15:35are closer to the Sun than we are, and then the Earth nudges them
- 15:41with its own gravity and pulls them out away from the Sun, and then
- 15:43they spend some time further from the Sun than we are. But then they
- 15:48have another close encounter with the Earth and it pulls them back in toward the
- 15:50Sun, and then they slide in where they're closer to the Sun again than
- 15:54we are, and it creates kind of a spirograph weaving type pattern around the
- 16:00Sun. But it looks as if they might be kind of orbiting around the
- 16:03Earth. Okay, so that's the class of objects are called called quasi satellites,
- 16:08and they are not pure satellites of the Earth, but instead objects are
- 16:14orbit the Sun very near to the Earth. Okay, Well, anytime there's
- 16:18an object orbiting the Sun really close to the Earth and having these shall we
- 16:23call them close encounters? Close encounters of the something kind I don't know anyway,
- 16:29So it's close enough that they become classified as a near Earth object or
- 16:33more specifically, an Earth crossing asteroid, which make them hazardous. Right,
- 16:40So these are chunks that could potentially run into us. So this particular chunk
- 16:45has a really interesting name, and it's called Como a Leiva. You can
- 16:51say that again. I practiced it. There was no way I was reading
- 16:56that the first time without a pronunciation guide. It is a whole Hawaiian name.
- 17:00I do not speak the native Hawaiian language, so I built my own
- 17:06pronunciation guide. And if anybody does speak the Hawaiian language and I have butchered
- 17:08this, I am sorry. I did my best. Kamu aleiva, which
- 17:15name, thank you? You know I do the best I can anyway.
- 17:21So Leva a near Earth asteroid with properties that seem to be similar to the
- 17:27surface of the Moon. And that's what makes this one interesting. So upon
- 17:33further review, it looks as though this particular weaving orbit come from Kamoleva looks
- 17:41like it could have been potentially once associated with the Moon. How do you
- 17:47find that stuff out? You do a lot of computer simulation modeling of the
- 17:52orbits of the Earth, the Moon, and this asteroid together and you say,
- 17:56yes, this, with enough energy, could have been a chunk separated
- 18:00from the Moon. But that energy falls within the range of the kinds of
- 18:07energies delivered to the Moon during one of these collisions, so it makes it
- 18:11feasible. And then you start looking at the surface of the Moon and you
- 18:15find out, I'm sorry, the surface of Muliva, and you compare it
- 18:19to the surface of the Moon, and you find out that it's composed of
- 18:22silicate materials that seem to be very similar in composition and reflective properties. We
- 18:30call that's albedo is the name for that word, So similar to both the
- 18:34reflective properties and the chemical properties composition of the surface of the Moon itself.
- 18:40And you say, huh, a chunk that looks orbitally like it could have
- 18:45easily come from the Moon during one of the larger collisions and also just looks
- 18:51like a chunk of the Moon both physically and chemically. That is of serious
- 18:56possibility. So a group of astronomers from California. One. I'm sorry,
- 19:03I student from California. That's a different story. Sorry. One the lead
- 19:06author from the physics department of the University of Arizona, Ladies and gentlemen on
- 19:10this story has a quote and his name is Jose Daniel castros To Scenaros,
- 19:15and Jose has this quote. He says, considering it's earth like orbit and
- 19:19it's physical resemblance to the lunar surface material, we explore the hypothesis that it
- 19:25might have originated as a debris fragment from a meteoroidal impact with the lunar surface.
- 19:32And so that kind of is a much better summary than I just gave
- 19:34you a moment ago, all in one sentence. That's why he's the author
- 19:37of this paper and I'm not anyway. So the idea then is that it's
- 19:41really an interesting object for further study. If it is in fact a chunk
- 19:48of the Moon that we identified as an asteroid and it's in orbit around the
- 19:52Sun, it would be the first one of its kind. This would be
- 19:56the first time we've ever identified an object that is actually a fragment from the
- 20:04lunar surface and freed by some impact in the Moon's past history, and that
- 20:11makes it very exciting. To quote Jose one more time, it would be
- 20:15of great interest for Cosmo chemical study as a sample of the ancient lunar material.
- 20:21In other words, it's like a time capsule from the moment the impact
- 20:26event occurred in the long past of the Moon's history. So this is really
- 20:30an interesting object and there are going to be a lot of follow up studies
- 20:33now, perhaps even a spacecraft to visit Kamu Aleiva to see if we can
- 20:41take samples and return them to the Earth, which is feasible because it's really
- 20:45close by, right, and so a very interesting story. We're gonna watch
- 20:51how this develops and what other further studies come up based on this chunk of
- 20:56the Moon that could potentially be nearby. All right, it seems like an
- 21:02easy transition into the next story that has some similarities, I guess, and
- 21:07it's a little way except this one. Basically, you know, you could
- 21:11tie it into the band train. You could, because we're wondering if drops
- 21:15of Jupiter are falling because the air that's right possibly instead chunks of a really
- 21:23famous commet. Like if you've heard of any comments you've heard of this one.
- 21:30I mean, so we'll have to just dump train, I guess,
- 21:33because they're not drops of Jupiter. No, they're not, although there might
- 21:37be a Jupiter tie in later. We'll get back to that as we progressed
- 21:40in the story. Let's see. So this is from space weather dot com.
- 21:41Ladies and gentlemen, there is a meteor shower coming up this weekend.
- 21:45The meteor shower is from the debris leftover from Haley's commet. If you like
- 21:52Bill Haley and the Commets, or if you're in the if you're in the
- 21:56profession as I am, you call it commet Halley game after Edmund Halley,
- 22:00the discoverer that this this comment revisits the Earth. He didn't really discover the
- 22:07commet. He discovered the pattern of the commet revisiting the Earth every seventy six
- 22:11years. So this commet comes back around. Huh. I do feel like
- 22:15I should at least mention if you're a fan of Dave Barry, then you
- 22:18like Bill Holly and the Smoots. But that's getting into some deep dive into
- 22:22obscurity. But anyway, go ahead. I'm sorry. I just I couldn't
- 22:26resist. I mean, I missed that Dave Barry, is that George Smoot
- 22:29That would be awesome. All right, we'll get back to that later.
- 22:32So these chunks of material left over from Hailey's comet or comment Halley, are
- 22:37going to be entering into our atmosphere this weekend because the Earth is actually passing
- 22:44through a debris stream, in other words, the trail or the train tracks.
- 22:49See what I did their train I like it, thank you, the
- 22:52train tracks left over from Halley's comments. So we're gonna go through the Holly
- 22:56comet debris trail this week end. And that happens every year at the same
- 23:03time, and that's that's why meter showers are repeatable, and we can say,
- 23:07oh, well, these certain meteor showers happen on certain days of the
- 23:10year. This one is known as the Ada Aquarid Meteor Shower and it is
- 23:15an annual meteor shower. This year, the peak rates are expected to be
- 23:19ten to thirty meters per hour, which is a pretty good one. Now
- 23:25there's something that's unfortunate, which is there's also a full moon this weekend,
- 23:32and the full moon makes it really hard to see the little tiny flex from
- 23:37a meteor shower because they're just not nearly as bright as that big old moon,
- 23:41so basically you only see the large ones come in. So okay,
- 23:47a little bit of a bummer. But wait, now we're getting back to
- 23:49drops of Jupiter, Ladies and gentlemen, because Jupiter's helping us out. We
- 23:56might get an extra dose of these meteoroids entering into our atmosphere becoming meteors because
- 24:03back in time, the gravity of Jupiter tugged this debris stream closer to the
- 24:11Earth. In other words, the massive planet Jupiter perturbed this comet stream as
- 24:18those two objects got close together. And now we're getting to kind of a
- 24:22fat part of the comet stream where a bunch of chunks are just a little
- 24:26closer to the Earth. So we might get an overall enhanced number of impacts
- 24:33of these little fragments with the Earth's atmosphere, which means if you have more
- 24:37chunks, you have more bigger chunks, which means, despite a full moon,
- 24:42it might well be worth going outside and looking up anyway, because of
- 24:48this perturbation of the holly comet meteor stream. Who figured this out? Not
- 24:56me? This is I don't do this, I do other stuff. But
- 25:00this was figured out by a famous person that lives rather nearby to us.
- 25:04Just a little skip and jump from Columbus, Georgia where we are over to
- 25:07Huntsville, Alabama, and that would be Bill Cook. Bill Cook is a
- 25:12very famous scientist for those who are space geeks, because he studies the near
- 25:18Earth environment and has done so for a really long time, and he comes
- 25:22up with stories like this. He's the lead for the meteor Environment Office at
- 25:26NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama. And wait, there's one
- 25:30more local tie. He was also the former boss of one of our former
- 25:36students, Cameron McCarty here at Columbus State University, who interned with Bill Cook
- 25:42at the Media Environment Office at the Marshall space Flight Center. And now Cameron
- 25:48happens to be the Payload Operations Director at the Marshall Space Flight Center working with
- 25:53astronauts on the International Space Station. So there you go full circle back to
- 26:00Bill Cook. And sometimes he does his job while listening to train you know,
- 26:04I mean, I don't know. I can't. I don't want to
- 26:07put that on him. If he's not a train fan, I don't want
- 26:08to put that on him. I'll just say that I don't. I don't
- 26:11want to. Maybe we should send Cameron to text and just ask him to
- 26:15see if Bill Cook likes drops of Jupiter, because that would just be the
- 26:19best. Yeah, that would then fully bring it back full circle. Coming
- 26:23up after a quick break, we could hear from aliens in deep space in
- 26:30like six years. We'll get into that right after this. So looking back
- 26:56just through our text history, there's a lot of different things that we text
- 26:59about out. Sometimes it's about the Giants or Broncos, we'll talk about football,
- 27:03or sometimes we're just texting about the fact that we're staring up at the
- 27:07sky at the time. Occasionally it's because there's a story like this next one
- 27:12that one of us stumbles into and shares it with the other one. And
- 27:18this is one of those things that I vaguely remember talk about, Hey,
- 27:22we're gonna send a message into deep space, and then in the amount of
- 27:26time it takes to get out and the time that someone could maybe hear it
- 27:30and send a message back, it'll be around twenty twenty nine when we might
- 27:34get something back from it. And it's it's kind of that can that you
- 27:37just kind of, you know, kick on and you just say well,
- 27:41we'll wait and see how that all pans out. And then I saw this
- 27:45update story and it was like, oh, yeah, by the way,
- 27:48we're getting close to that message, maybe coming back in twenty twenty nine.
- 27:52So yeah, as it gets closer to that, I start wondering do we
- 27:57want to get a message back or not. I mean, there's certain emails
- 28:03that've sent out that I think I'm gonna get an answer by twenty twenty nine.
- 28:07Yeah, I've got a few of those. Two. I think there's
- 28:11some friend requests on Facebook that I might get back around to me by twenty
- 28:14one. So yeah, I mean I get the concept. Yeah, no,
- 28:18that you sent me a really cool story. It's from Popular Science and
- 28:22it talks about the fact that we send these radio communications off into space and
- 28:27at light travel times. Eventually they will pass by some exo planet systems that
- 28:33we know about there that potentially have earthlike planets. Now this sounds familiar if
- 28:41you've seen the movie Contact. The movie Contact was derived from a book by
- 28:47Carl Sagan. The motion picture features Jody Foster and what happens is, Hey,
- 28:53you gotta mention Matthew McConaughey or Jill's gonna get mad at us. And
- 28:57there's a guy named McConaughey. I don't know what his first name is,
- 29:02ye may or may not be related to another Hollywood actor, Deep Path,
- 29:07but they may be brothers. Who knows half brothers, I don't know.
- 29:11Whatever. That's a that's a subject for a different show anyway. So so
- 29:17all right, in the motion picture, radio signals that we have been beaming
- 29:22out into you know, just broadcasting around the world have been drifting off into
- 29:26space. And that includes things like, you know, Hitler's broadcast from Nazi
- 29:30Germany and something almost as bad, the Ed Sullivan Show, and I don't
- 29:34know my three sons, I don't know that's I was supposed to be a
- 29:40joke, plays a joke. Yeah, anyway, there was nothing worse than
- 29:44Hitler's. I'm just joking anyway. So but here's the problem with all of
- 29:48those semi locals. Somewhere at Sullivan just in his grave setup and went hey
- 29:55right now. So, so the problem with these kind of general broadcasts around
- 30:03the Earth is that they don't have very much signal power in any given direction.
- 30:08So the likelihood of any of that stuff, or maybe the worst of
- 30:12all, I dream of Genie episodes. I don't know something getting up.
- 30:17No, I'm just kidding. These are all great things. They're not going
- 30:19to get out to space. They're not all great things. Hitler's broadcast.
- 30:22We're not great things, a great thing. Just delete this part of the
- 30:26show West. I'm just off on. It's all right, So if you
- 30:30don't get around to this editing, just know that I'm joking. Ladies and
- 30:33gentlemen. I love Barbara Eden, all right, So here we go.
- 30:37Those things won't make it deep enough into space because there's not enough power behind
- 30:42them. They will dissipate, and their signal strengths will likely be too weak
- 30:48to make it out to any exo planets. However, we use something called
- 30:53the Deep Space Network with our National Aeronautics and Space Administration to beam much higher
- 31:02powered, much more focused signals of radio communication out in the direction of our
- 31:08spacecraft that we launched a long time ago, and we're still having conversations with
- 31:15them, including Pioneer, Voyager one, Voyager two, and other deep spacecraft
- 31:25that have gone there. So we're still getting pings back from some of these
- 31:30spacecraft that are they're still going out there, so we send them in return
- 31:34some high energy, highly directed radio beams just to say, yes, we
- 31:38still hear you, Yes we know you're still out there. Please keep signing
- 31:41us data. Well, the radio beams are much more powerful in a certain
- 31:49unique direction than any of those radio or television broadcasts from the nineteen fifties and
- 31:56sixties. Therefore, they may have a fall are better chance of reaching an
- 32:02exoplanet with sufficient intensity that if there were alien civilizations on those exo planets,
- 32:08they might actually pick them up and say, hey, that seemed like a
- 32:16set of one, a set of ones and zeros that came from an intelligent
- 32:22civilization. And that's because they didn't see my three sons. So the whole
- 32:27point is that if aliens saw those signals, they might actually send the signal
- 32:32back. All right. So now a group of scientists, and this time
- 32:37it is from California, A group of scientists from California began to look at
- 32:40hey, so what direction have we sent those more intense radio communications to our
- 32:46spacecraft and are there exo planets out in those directions that might be oh something
- 32:53similar to the Earth. So you know, they can potentially have alien civilizations
- 33:00on there. And what's the closest one, what's the closest exoplanet that is
- 33:05somewhat like the Earth that might have a civilization on it. And then when
- 33:09would that radio transmission get to them? And then if they just kind of
- 33:15said, hey, reply all and send a message back, how soon would
- 33:20it get here? That is, ladies and gentlemen, how we come up
- 33:25with a time estimate of twenty twenty nine because the round trip light travel time
- 33:31to the nearest exoplanet in a certain direction where we beamed out these intense radio
- 33:36signals that they can immediately send a signal back and would get here, would
- 33:40arrive in twenty twenty nine. So there are the scientists in California who are
- 33:47suggesting that perhaps those people who work for the organization that was fictionalized in the
- 33:52movie Contact, which is SETTI the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, should possibly begin
- 33:59to point their radio antenna in certain directions in the year twenty twenty nine to
- 34:06really start listening for possible echoes from other intelligent life on these exoplanets that were
- 34:13contacted. See what I did. They're contacted by our radio signals beaming out
- 34:17to our spacecraft, and the message that we sent out was alright, alright,
- 34:23alright, I don't know. I had to tie back into it as
- 34:27well. All right, let's talk about furbies. That's by the way,
- 34:30that's an awesome story. It's also a little scary. But I just thought
- 34:35it was a fun story and I knew we had to talk about it on
- 34:37the show. Let's talk about the scary part. Let me just say the
- 34:39scary part of the scary part is maybe these people don't like us, yeah,
- 34:43or maybe you didn't know we were here, and they really want,
- 34:45you know, like popsicles. And they said, oh, these people have
- 34:47popsicles on Earth. Maybe it's a planet that had recently sent a message out
- 34:53somewhere else and then another planet came and, you know, wipe them out.
- 34:58And they're just sitting there going what next. And then they get our
- 35:00message and they go, oh, oh, okay, well we got that.
- 35:05Let's maybe they're just a civilization that really likes cheer wine. And they
- 35:07say, wait, these people have cheer wine. We've got to go there
- 35:13and take over their planets all because of cheer wine. It could happen,
- 35:15Ladies and Jones. This is the strangest collection of pop culture references ever in
- 35:20this from picking on my three sons, and I dream of Jeanis and now
- 35:25cheer wine. Let's talk about furbies because we got a new record, furbies.
- 35:31Let's never forget it. Sullivan, by the way, and that's about
- 35:35now. And I'm sorry, Ed, I was joking. It was just
- 35:37a joke, all right. So astronomers have discovered twenty five brand new but
- 35:45yet repeating fast radio bursts, and that, ladies and gentlemen, is a
- 35:50record discovery. Fast radio bursts have an acronym of FRB, and therefore we
- 35:57call them furbies. And I'm sure those people who study them also called them
- 36:00furbies, because why wouldn't you. It's frbes, right, Farbs is not
- 36:04fun to say, Furbies is hilarious to say. So astromers have discovered twenty
- 36:07five new repeating fast radio burst furbies. And let me tell you the reason
- 36:13that this is important, because fast radio bursts are actually nothing to be laughed
- 36:17at. They are one of the most powerful releases of energy that we've ever
- 36:22discovered anywhere, and they happen rather quickly, and they can for a short
- 36:29time outshine an entire galaxy with a burst of radio emission, So that is
- 36:38one way of an energetic process. But because their time is so short,
- 36:45these are extremely rapid events that are here and gone in a very short period
- 36:51of time, they're incredibly hard to study because they're basically like a flashbulb going
- 36:55off, and then you look to see where the flashbulb went off, and
- 36:59then another one goes off behind you. Then you look in that direction,
- 37:01and another one goes off below your left foot, and you look in that
- 37:05direction and you can't figure out what are these things flashing. You kind of
- 37:07see the echo of the flash, but you don't really get to examine the
- 37:10target well. When they repeat, then you can just look in one direction
- 37:16and wait for the thing to flash again. So the fact that we've now
- 37:21discovered twenty five repeating fast radio bursts means that we can kind of hone in
- 37:28on the direction of those repeating fast radio bursts and study their origin sites to
- 37:34try to figure out where they're coming from and what the heck they are and
- 37:38where did this amazing discovery come from. By the way, reported in space
- 37:44dot com. Check out the article on space dot com. It was kind
- 37:45of about six or seven days ago. Go back on space dot COM's archive
- 37:50a little bit. So it was released by a new study led by astronomers
- 37:53from the Canadian Hydrogen Intensity Mapping Experiment. We know that better's chime, so
- 38:02it's the Chime Experiment in Canada, and the FRB collaboration and the University of
- 38:08Toronto. So these are all the entities that we're working together that have identified
- 38:14these twenty five again a record number, twenty five new repeating frb's fast radio
- 38:20bursts. And now they know where they're at, and so now we have
- 38:23a total number of fifties. So they basically doubled the number of known repeating
- 38:30fast radio bursts and gave scientists a whole new platform to study this very short
- 38:37lived, extraordinarily energetic, and very mysterious phenomenon occurring somewhere out there in the
- 38:45depths of space. Could it be hyperdrives from the Millennium Falcon causing giant bursts,
- 38:54or perhaps ships from the Empire. We don't know. Anything is serious.
- 39:00Suggestion is that it's some kind of alien propulsion, because when mysterious things
- 39:05get put forward, somebody suggests aliens. So there it is, Ladies and
- 39:09gentlemen. Ferby's might be aliens but are probably colliding black holes or neutron stars
- 39:15from something else. Don't take this away from me. On May the fourth,
- 39:19it's Star Wars Day. Let's just say it could be Han and Chewie
- 39:22out there somewhere drives baby, That's what it could be. All right,
- 39:25let's talk about you guys have a show this weekend and next weekend there at
- 39:30the Coca Cola Space Science Center, a special show. We have a really
- 39:37cool collaboration with the State Theater of Georgia, which is the spring Or Opera
- 39:42House, and they are located just a couple of blocks from us, and
- 39:46we got you know, they're friends of ours, so we got talking with
- 39:49them and we said, hey, what if what if there was a time
- 39:52where you guys could do a play a show inside of our Omnisphere theater And
- 39:59they you know what, that sounds like a really cool idea. Why don't
- 40:04we see if we can bring our theater for the very young to the Space
- 40:07Science Center and do it inside of your planetarium. Well, ladies and gentlemen,
- 40:13that has actually occurred once one other time, but now this is our
- 40:15second show working with the Springer Opera House. It's entitled a superhero for all
- 40:21seasons. And it's a show that is intended to teach really young children.
- 40:28We're talking about preschool children to kindergarteners, kind of in that age group.
- 40:31Teach those kids the fundamental ideas about the seasons. And we're going to be
- 40:37running that show from May sixth through the thirteenth. And since this is only
- 40:42May fourth, none of those shows have happened, but if you're in the
- 40:45future, hopefully you haven't missed the May thirteenth show. So they're gonna be
- 40:50on May sixth at ten and eleven thirty am, May seventh, which is
- 40:53a Sunday two thirty pm, and then again on May thirteenth at ten at
- 41:00eleven thirty am. That's a Saturday, So that's when the shows are going
- 41:02to be running. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have young children, and
- 41:06if you're anywhere in the regions of southeastern Alabama or southwestern Georgia, come on
- 41:14down and see this great show at the Coca Cola Space Science Center. Tickets
- 41:17are available, Ladies and gentlemen, And normally I would point you to our
- 41:21website, Oh why not, I'll just do it anyway. Www dot CC
- 41:27SSC dot org, Charlie Charlie SamSam Charlie dot org, the Coca Cola Space
- 41:31Science Center initials dot org. Why would I even consider not sending you to
- 41:37our own website, Well, because really you're going to buy those tickets from
- 41:40the Spring or Opera House. But we do have a link on our own
- 41:45website that will send you to the right place to buy the tickets from the
- 41:49Spring or Opera House. So, once again, thank you for listening to
- 41:52our podcast, ladies and gentlemen. And if you're listening from our general area
- 41:54of origin, then you can avoid drops of Jupiter and chunks of Halley and
- 42:00get to the Space Science Center. You'll be able to see Superhero for All
- 42:05Seasons. Follow that link on the website once again www dot cc, SSC
- 42:10dot org, Charlie Charlie SamSam Charlie dot org. Click on the link for
- 42:15Superhero for All Seasons, follow it, get your tickets, bring the kids,
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