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Bears Over Beers: Can Caleb Williams and Bears Do It Again vs. Minnesota? · 2nd City Gridiron

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[SPEAKER_00]: want to know baby coming off a big win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, run day our first post victory show of the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's bears over beers presented by second city.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gridiron, I'm Ryan Drasty with my good friend Brian Orange.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chuck Brian, how you doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: doing great, man, the first of many wins this season, first of many, but yes, first win, big win in a lot of ways, and we'll get into that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, man, looking forward to a divisional rivalry game to coming up, especially, especially one where they choke, choke-hold, choke-held the packers as burden is behind you right now,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, ma'am excited to be here and get into it, you know, finally the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got some actual football to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So pumped about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously crack one open with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm going to let you go first this week last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Brian, what are you drinking tonight?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, sir.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But first I'm glad I don't have a tall boy, but I'm doing a cosmic little thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a a hazy double IPA from Sierra Nevada.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we, the bears, put up some pretty cosmic little things at vibes going on with our 59 points.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is a solid eight percent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's nothing crazy like we've had on here before, but it is, it's cosmic and and truth be told you saw picture of my gathering on Sunday, which is it's on Twitter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So anybody can see it, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is some of the leftover we had from Sunday because people brought good food and good drink.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you host stuff like that, sometimes you get some leftover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some remnants and this is a good one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm cracking this open.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I've got my bears overbears, pint glass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys still catch these.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These are great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, nice, hazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's you can't see through it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a nice, hazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got some good head on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks so,
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[SPEAKER_01]: to absolutely, I'm looking forward to drinking this for now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And because it's only a 12 answer, I've got a second backup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a non alcoholic hazy because, you know, we're getting old these days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm on East Coast time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's starting at a clock here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to be in bed right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless I'm talking with my boy about the bears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and drinking some beer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you got?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, first of all, I want to say that I think that's called the host tax, where people leave their beers behind for you hosting the party.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's, that's an okay thing to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And also that picture you mentioned where you were sitting right in the middle of the crowd and like everyone was gathering around you, you're sitting in the chair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I almost commented the pod father, Brian Ornchuk, the pod father, you know, that picture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this was one that I debated drinking last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I told, I think I said it on the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it had been so hot that I didn't feel like drinking a stout yet will Brian it's finally got that I think of you almost every morning when I'm walking into work because it's a crisp fall air that we always talk about on the show yeah and so I broke out the stout.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the class of founders, founders, staff, eight point three percent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, they changed a couple of years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to say, the original breakfast set label with the baby eating the oatmeal was just iconic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it bothers me every time I get this now that they change.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they changed all their labels, I think, but this one included, this one is so much more boring now, it's just got, it's got the oatmeal on the side, it's got the spoon, it says double chocolate coffee oatmeal stout roasted coffee sweet and decadent and Brian, I'll actually have an excuse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for drinking this one slowly because this is one that gets better as it warms up you can start tasting those, you know, notes of coffee in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I love this beer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is a standard for me in the winter time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've had this one for a while in the back of my fridge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have a botany this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's it's left over, but so
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will pour it here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be nice and dark.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you a fan of the breakfast style?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one of the ones I typically get every Stouthog Day, which for our new listeners and maybe those I have forgotten.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Outward on that, one of my favorite breweries called Pizgaburri on Super Bowl Sunday, gosh, looks so good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I got that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a lot of head on this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've poured it kind of harsh in case it lost some of the carbonation over the past, but I'll think it has.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Stouthog Day is where opens up at 11 a.m. and the breweries at this place baked pancakes, fresh and free for everybody that comes by and they have all their dark beers on tap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And all like the best and favorite guest dark beers on tap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And founders is typically one of them as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got a lot of good dark browns, porters, nitro stouts, regular stouts all around here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Breakfast stouts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So typically I'll do, I'll get like two flights of eight different beers and by that time they all start kind of mixing together tasting the same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's about all I can do on Stout Hog Day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 11 a.m. State some free pancakes and some dark beer, but yeah, I love them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember you sent to be pictures of that last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, look at this and the full screen real quick and the bears are our beers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: last.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So very nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you got, look, we got, we got the colors, the colors that we're representing here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is just, this is why you tune in to the YouTube, not just the pod.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You get to see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What we're what we're enjoying as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, Cheers, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cheers, cheers to a victory.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, it's still good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably even better now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's age a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: good stuff, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good stuff.
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7:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Brian and we're talking about a victory this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The bears with the fourth highest output the team has ever had when it comes to points third highest in the regular season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, the number one is the 73 to 0 1940 NFL title game
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this was the third most points the bears have ever scored in a regular season game with 59 points defeating the Carolina Panthers got a little dicey there in the middle for a bit, but in the end the bears tightened up the defense in the second half and pulled away in dramatic fashion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm still riding high three days later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you make of this game and how does it feel to be a bears fan with arguably the best offense in the NFL?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it feels great and you know it's it's different right obviously for us it's different I went into work today and one of my colleagues so I didn't haven't seen since last week He was like group you saw me down the hall and he was like Brian He said how does it feel to be a bears fan?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like
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[SPEAKER_01]: fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I reached out to another friend of mine that I typically reach out to twice a year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a Vikings fan and he lives out of state.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually, I sent him a tweet that's out there with a Vikings fan was like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: was like, seriously, when have the packers ever lost gracefully on paraphrasing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, when have they ever not complained about the wind?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just said, you know what, good game, you be as fair and square.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've never done it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a Vikings fan calling this out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I sent this to my Vikings fan, friend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and he laughed at it and he said, like 59 points, he's like, you want us to be scared?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because we're scared.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just a different time to be alive for, you know, for us bears fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it feels great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, obviously we'll get into a lot more in the show, but one of the craziest things about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is how much meat was left on the bone and the players talked about too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All the mistakes from a penalty standpoint.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wrote in my article this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you saw, but we had the most penalty since week one of last year and our stud potentially all pro titan didn't get a single catch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, both Rome and Luther got less than a hundred hours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're neither in our leading receiver that belonged to Cliff Raymond, of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of meat left on that bone and we still scored 59.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So which was our most ever in a home opener.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So one of the most all time, for a home opener, I mean, you know, just leaves and bounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: different than anything we've ever experienced.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so now, you know, transitioning into a week where we're playing against one of the most, if not the most elite play defensive play callers in the league, arrival that beat us week one last season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm just I couldn't be more excited, but it was fun and the reason I had that gathering is because I live in Carolina as as you know, and I've got a lot of panther fan friends and neighbors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I was expecting only a handful and and whole damn neighborhood showed up, which was cool, you know, they brought some good food and beer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: drinks for the kids and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it worked out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was exhausted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was telling this is totally random.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was telling my sister in law today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I play wordle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: every day with my mom and brother and we're all separate and we just share our results and you know it's just our way of connecting and I had a streak of almost 365 days and on Sunday I started I didn't get back to it though so I broke my streak not because I failed but because I did
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[SPEAKER_01]: juice up about it, but ironically, the word on Sunday was focus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I did not have focus for some mortal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, we get all over the place, but it was a great, it was a great day, it was fun, but I'm looking forward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to being in my room, my little den, where it's nice and cold and dark and watching the game with maybe one or two other people this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm eager to get back to that, but yeah, man, 59 points was unreal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What were some of your takeaways, you know, you want to talk more about offense defense?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what are your thoughts?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I watched the game in solitude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had to totally have experience because my kids are in just a lot of activities right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like my older star play practice, my wife was carding them around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She knew that that I had to watch the game because I was doing the post game show on Bears by 7.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I watched it totally by myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Usually I watch them with my dad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I invited him over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He couldn't come over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just sitting there in my couch watching it in
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was so excited in the second half.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a little worried in the first half.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, it was really interesting how if you think about it, how many bears teams in the past would have let that first drive totally derail everything?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just mentally having a swift breaks off that 17-yard run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First play the game gets whistled back for whole-bound
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Rome wasn't even like close to the play, and we still like holding penalty, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean Luther fumbling the ball, Luther never fumbles, you know, it's just like, wow, how did it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How did this happen, you know, and they're getting the ball in our territory?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, whatever, we'll go right back out there and score, you know, and like it just felt like they were going to score at will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They get up 21 7, you kind of just feel like, all right, you know, we're going to run away with this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, there was the fourth down call that didn't go our way and, you know, I don't think they should have gone for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's been for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden it becomes a game again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I remember last year we talked about how the defense wasn't great, but oftentimes at halftime, Dennis Allen would make some adjustments, and they'd lock it down in the second half a little bit, not totally, but a little bit, and that's what happened in this game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we finally made some stops, offense kept scoring, pulled away 59 points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a teacher and I got kids at school talking to me about the bear's offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is like never happened at my career of 20 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're friends are coming in like bragging that they have bear's players on their fantasy team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This never happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been teaching for, yeah, almost 20 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, I overheard them talking today about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And usually they come in and they're like, razzing me about the bears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, they all know I'm a bears fan and I got a bears pen on the wall and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like nobody was even talking me about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just overheard them like bragging to each other about which bears players they had.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, wow, what a different universe that says become and how cool is this, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man, it was everything from the game to the post game with Ben bringing out good, better best again, which I love that I kept that going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Jaday on the background, begging for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That little test to see what they would do if he didn't do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just awesome vibes watching that with my kids on Sunday nights and they weren't able to watch the game, but they watched that with me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, yeah, man, I mean, how could you, how could you not be excited?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this game, there's definitely some things to be worried about, I think, but I think overall, we're going to be positive on, on the bears, I think that like you mentioned in a elite defensive coordinator and, and Brian Flores, and I mean, I mean, I'll eat head coach too in Kevin O'Connell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It should be a really interesting game this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I love their back and forth together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, chess matches that they have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be a test, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're one of those teams that keep showing your toes and and and I felt like we played them well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I felt like we should have won week one last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But but we didn't and
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we obviously got the W later on against them in their home, but, you know, they've got some playmakers and and some of their edges are really coming on, especially Dallas Turner who someone that we've kind of been slowly seeing, but he he looked the part of a first rampic this past Sunday against the pack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be a test and I'm super excited, I'm a little bit nervous with our defense, you know, like you said, you know, we were used to having some adjustments and there was some adjustments, but I feel like
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like there's still a lot of room for improvement overall over there and one of the other things I pointed out my article this week is and I could be wrong I have this weird thing where I don't go back and watch the whole game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like between me paying attention to every single play and then
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[SPEAKER_01]: revisiting based on other people's tweets or videos or, you know, summaries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just kind of jogs my memory and keeps me, you know, kind of aware.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not to say it's perfect by the means, but I just, I typically don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes very rarely I will, but typically don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I could be wrong in this, but the only, there were only two players that made more than one play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in that game on defense that I could remember genuinely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was our rookies, Dylan Thayneman and Malik Muhammad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, other guys made a play here there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can say we street got a sack, first start for him, and I don't even know how long if that is whole career, sweat had a nice sack in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some other players made plays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jalen had that nice fumble force, but he did get torched all day other than that, which was weird.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But those two had made multiple plays, and so I was excited about that, and me and the Denmaster Ken Mitchell, well, I responded to him and he didn't really respond back on Twitter today, but we pointed out how much we could use Kyler, right, and I mentioned how
17:53
[SPEAKER_01]: even getting Xavier Woods back healthy would allow us to move Cam Lewis maybe to slot and then maybe Malie could go outside.
18:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And I will say it's a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Disconcerting, knowing we've got Justin Jefferson coming to town who looks every bit as a lead as he once was and wins, who appears more than capable of getting him the rock, which is really all you need to do is just give him a chance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he'll make some plays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there are some concerns, but I'm looking forward to I'm wearing my older Sean Salon, 31,
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[SPEAKER_01]: trophy winner, but obviously his statement is number now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm hoping he's going to make some more plays and show up for his first home game at Soldier Field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was the defense was concerning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No question, especially the big names or people that we want to see big names.
18:51
[SPEAKER_00]: We've talked up Austin Booker so much on the show and he didn't really show up in the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't make much of an impact that didn't think it was good to see Montez get that sack in the first half.
19:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely expected more from Jalen, you know, with all the talk in the off season that he looks like himself that he looked good in the joint practices, and then he's out there getting burned, uh, Tyreak was the bigger concern for me, though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he got burned numerous times with montacles, looks really, really bad out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jalen at least, like he said the fumble, you know, he looked like he was fighting at least, or Tyreak was just like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: two was lost and not making place over and over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That he's the one I'm really concerned about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Muhammad was a good success story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First game, you know, I was writing the game balls column on Wendy City Gridiron and I was going back and forth between Muhammad and Thineman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't sure what I was going to go with and I ended up going with Thineman because
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[SPEAKER_00]: like he tied the tie with all safeties for most tackles this week with 10 and you know it just felt like he had maybe a little bit better game but like the fact that Muhammad shines so much over two guys have played a lot of games like he was the best corner out there for us ahead of Jalen Johnson ahead of Tyreek Stevenson and look man you can even try to make the argument that Jalen's still coming back from that injury whatever he's at a while to get get right though.
20:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Tyree, there's no excuse.
20:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this guy needs to be out there proving his worth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he almost was off the team a couple of years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he looked like he was the one that was like the rookie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that was that was really concerning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I also thought the linebackers would make more of an impact on the game than they did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they really got to get things right.
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23:39
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Brian.
23:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to hear about who you're to main top players were for the game this past weekend.
23:54
[SPEAKER_01]: you got to have Caleb in that conversation.
23:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's, you almost have to have this conversation, you know, saying who your top player is outside of Caleb.
24:04
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it, it bears,
24:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, our opponent this week was our week one opponent last year, and to see the difference between the way he was in control, the offense, and confident in what he saw decisive.
24:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, his long touchdown run was not a design run, and they did run him more design than I think I've ever seen.
24:35
[SPEAKER_01]: He did have more rush hours than you ever had in his career, but that long run was again, not the design of the play.
24:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But just the fact that he was decisive with where he went with the ball, and if it wasn't there, he would check it down, and if that didn't seem comfortable, he took off.
24:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But he got stuff set up at the line, and he made more plays than, you know, he did at least the first half of all last season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, we were kind of used to him making these sort of plays in the year, but the surrounding picks, like none of his balls were, there was one bad throw, one of them took to Colston.
25:19
[SPEAKER_01]: That could have been like a 60 plus yard touchdown because Colston had room to run and, you know, there was a lot of field between him and players around him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that was the only myth that I saw.
25:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he had some incomplete passes, obviously, but that was the only bad throw I remember.
25:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's got to be up there, and then I got to give it, I got to give it to Swift, man, Swift.
25:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And those are the two that won the awards this week, you know, in the national media.
25:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, swift fresh off that extension, you know, you love to see it, you know, you talk about a lot of talk out there with Kyler Gordon getting paid and then he packs it in and, you know, not the same player anymore, whatever, which I don't believe, but, you know, that happens all the time, you know, think of Albert Haynesworth from a few years back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that time signed the most just ridiculous contract for a defensive tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then pretty much just spend his money on, you know, donuts and pizza on the couch and steam like, um, seven years, $100 million.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Back then, I was like 15 years ago or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, oh, nine.
26:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and, and so to see Swift come out and,
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[SPEAKER_01]: run with not just the decisiveness, but he's got this attitude that he expects to take everyone to the house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He gets up kind of pissed off.
26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't break that last tackle a little bit
26:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he was just, you know, running with a man possessed and I love that we signed him to an extension, I think he fits the offense well, you know, I love situations like this because you reward your own, right?
27:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's how players grow, you know, in the culture and want to play for you by rewarding your own.
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say though, the most ampedi was all game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: was on the Kyle Monungai long run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's when I kind of lost it for me.
27:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Because yeah, that was a lot of fun.
27:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But go back to what you said before, I wanna hear your two guys, you talked about how things are different these days with how the game started and how we would feel like we're out of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was the same way.
27:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I'm actually still confident.
27:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And I said that to my friend, who's a Panthers fan,
27:47
[SPEAKER_01]: and other people around like I'm I'm actually not worried and this is weird for me to not be worried because you should be where they're at home right they just took the ball back and then they scored and they looked good on offense really all game right I mean right son had what 360 yards or something like that passing and um the running game didn't do as dominant as I thought but um but I wasn't worried either and that's another stark difference
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[SPEAKER_01]: what we are experiencing with Caleb and Ben and what we've ever experienced in our lifetime before.
28:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I might not have been as nervous as you at half time, but, you know, because I didn't expect for them to score that many points on us.
28:34
[SPEAKER_01]: But, oh, I wanted to say this to regarding Tyreek.
28:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like a lot of plays he got beat and seeing some other guys got beat.
28:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It was Bryce Young being able to avoid pressure, extend the play and keep his eyes down field and find him and hit them accurately.
28:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he actually impressed me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on Sunday.
28:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think it, I think that kind of points to us, beating some more firepower on the defensive line.
28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, Sweat made one play, Booker, I know it was not existing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And our linebackers were non-existent as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, definitely not other than two rookies who I'm giving them an admirable, you know, score for the week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got to say, Caleb and Swiftie, but I could see a couple of the guys there too, who are you looking at?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I had Swift as my other one.
29:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So my two game balls were Swift and Thineman, like I said, I thought about Muhammad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: On the offensive side, it was gonna be Caleb or Swift.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I ended up going with Swift because there was just a couple of miscues for Caleb.
29:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he had, don't get me wrong, he had a terrific game, he was outstanding.
29:42
[SPEAKER_00]: But I felt like Swift throughout the whole game just was just this standout performer, whenever they gave him the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When he got the ball,
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just made something happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He averaged almost seven yards of carry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like you said, three touchdowns, he was just outstanding.
29:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I know a couple of years ago, we set it on this show, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were looking at drafting a running back and it was getting a non-guy late, but we a lot of people wanted them to draft running back early.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, turns out they didn't need to, because this guy is just having an unbelievable couple of years
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you just love to see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, Kyle had a great game too, but it was mostly in the second half versus the Andre was the whole game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just felt consistently it was him.
30:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that catch that room had, you know, like we totally lost the dude.
30:35
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so those still had like the one drop, you know, like every game room has a drop that he should have caught and he had one in this game, too.
30:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And Caleb just made it insane throw rolling out to the right side and used his arm and threw it right there.
30:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, it was low, we're almost going to the ground, but he should have caught the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I should have been a play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so like, God, he hate to see that happen yet again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully get that on her control.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But overall, you know, Rome had that had the awesome catch, like we said, Colston wasn't out there as much as we wanted making plays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was mostly off-ball where he was making plays, Luther had a few catches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it just shows the depth of this offense that we could score 59 points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Colston Lovelin had a single catch isn't just insane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like the amount of weapons on this team is incredible and so you know we're going to we're have to watch the injury for a little bit I saw that Darnell Wright was did not practice today I mean obviously that's something worth following you don't want to you don't want to be losing Darnell Wright early in the season but on the positive side Rome was a full participant after we didn't even know if he was going to play on Sunday you know heading into the weekend so
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'm not too worried about it, you know, by this point, it's so funny, it's like bears fans have amnesia, you know, it's, and I get it, like we've talked about, like we've had, you know, cumulative PTSD at this point, all the different regimes we've been under and the talent are the lack thereof on the raw street bed, but last year was the same way,
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[SPEAKER_01]: and which is kind of, it feels like why there's such a rub with Kyler because they err on a side of caution and he's still not out there.
32:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So if it's, if they're being conservative and how they're handling things and yet he's being more conservative, that's kind of annoying.
32:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I get that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to trust your body though.
32:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say that, but, but they'll be fine.
32:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Like
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[SPEAKER_01]: If, if I was to give the game ball out to anyone else, it would be darn outright like he had a hell of a game.
32:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I saw somewhere he was the highest rated right tackle in the league in week one.
32:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and I saw it.
32:59
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the guys I was concerned about was Derek Brown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Derek Brown had like when his worst games of all time, you know, he took a accountability and said, he, you know, he pretty much lost the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As his worst game manager was not gonna happen again, dropped a bunch of F bombs in the post game interview.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a large part of that was Darno Wright dominating him.
33:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And Derek Brown is a stud.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's a behemoth of a game record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Darno Wright, you know, just kind of manhandling him when he needed to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and he and Jonah Jackson together opened up so many holes all game for those guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not worried about him.
33:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I'm worried.
33:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want him to be hurt, but he'll play and he's going to dominate.
33:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm confident in that.
33:49
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's great to have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: such a healthy, you know, bill of health for our guys at this point, you know, it's only one week, but, you know, hopefully we can get Xavier Woods back like I said earlier and helps that secondary, because one of the reasons we brought him in is because his veteran leadership in presence and and just IQ on the feel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that would have been helpful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, but yeah, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: injuries are going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, you know, we stay healthy, but I'm confident and we're right right now.
34:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, I'm I'm I'm actually confident and guys like Grady Jared, I think he had a rest day, but he had a solid game.
34:29
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he was making some plays.
34:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He was he was flashed and he didn't make any plays.
34:33
[SPEAKER_01]: He was like close to making a handful of plays, which is more than we saw from him pretty much all last year.
34:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's fair.
34:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was a pleasant surprise.
34:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
34:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's talk about this Viking team a little bit.
34:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, obviously, they ended up pulling away, defeating the Green Bay Packers who've lost six games in a row now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to tell last season.
34:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hate to see it.
34:59
[SPEAKER_00]: You just hate to see that, right?
35:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So sad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So sad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's these Packers fans on Twitter.com.
35:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, x.com, just talking about the refs.
35:11
[SPEAKER_00]: really really Green Bay Packers fans are not complaining about the refs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, get a lot of that.
35:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, Vikings coming off a home win.
35:20
[SPEAKER_00]: As you said, coming into soldier field where last year, the bear's lead for three quarters of the game and the JJ McCarthy ends up having his best game as a pro.
35:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, JJ McCarthy finds himself,
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[SPEAKER_00]: third on the death chart, although second maybe given the injury is high-limorous.
35:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, it seems unlikely that Kyler Murray would get cleared from a concussion in time to play this week.
35:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's going through protocol.
35:44
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see if it's Carson Wens back there.
35:47
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a guy where if you if you give him time, he's a vet like he'll pick you apart.
35:52
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you can get after him a little bit, I feel pretty good about the Bears chances with him under center because he kind of panics a little bit when he's under pressure.
35:59
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he's kind of been known for over the course of his careers, having happy feet when there's pressure around.
36:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And Brian, I went back because I couldn't remember.
36:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, how many times has Carson Wentz as a quarterback went up against Dennis Allen defense?
36:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And the only time I could find that this happened
36:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So with the with the Eagles?
36:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
36:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So the Saints were having a really good year.
36:29
[SPEAKER_00]: After this game, they were 9 and 1.
36:31
[SPEAKER_00]: The Eagles were 4 and 6.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And believe it was the year before that, the Eagles went on the Super Bowl.
36:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, they were coming off a Super Bowl year.
36:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And when started this game against Dennis Allen's defense down in New Orleans, and here's the
36:47
[SPEAKER_00]: 19 of 33, 156 yards, zero touchdowns, three interceptions, a QBR of 8.8 and a quarterback rating of 31.9.
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[SPEAKER_00]: he was stacked three times in that game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, that's the only time he's went up against the Dennis Allen defense.
37:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, the talent level going to be a little bit different, different players and everything like that, but it's still the Dennis Allen scheme.
37:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's kind of an interesting point going into the game that, you know, maybe Dennis Allen will know how to get him nervous back there because that was a disastrous game for Carson Wentz, the Saints won that game 48 to 7.
37:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely a difference in level of talent, like you said, but yeah, and you look at this team too, like he didn't have to throw that much this week.
37:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Kyler Murray got injured pretty quickly and when Kyler Murray went out he only threw five times.
37:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, whens came in and only threw it 19 more.
37:45
[SPEAKER_01]: That's 24 passes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The entire game for the Vikings.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On the other side of the coin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Minnesota's top two running backs had 27 carries.
37:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have Kyler rid of couple and went ahead five runs.
38:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's more just avoiding a sack and kind of lunging forward.
38:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it'll be interesting to see because this week Jordan makes him just went on IR so he's going to be out for at least four weeks and he had the bulk of their carries last week and granted between he and Aaron Jones they averaged
38:36
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do this week without Jordan Mason.
38:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Aaron Jones has been a better killer for a long time, but
38:42
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not himself, but not like you used to be.
38:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Although I was excited to see him score against the Packers, which I learned was his first touchdown against his former team this past Sunday.
38:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I love seeing that.
38:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But one guy, dude, then I'm a little nervous about.
39:01
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't talked about this yet, but I highlighted him in my top 10 running back to this draft class.
39:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's going to get some action I anticipate, even though they signed DJ Dallas to the practice squad and who else was a drum for it.
39:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like they signed, but demand clayborne rookie at a wake forest who kind of undersized, but he's he's got elite speed.
39:25
[SPEAKER_01]: He was right up there with Mike Washington, Jeremiah love in the 40 art dash at the combine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's got a four, three type speed, four, three, eight, I think it might have been, four, three, seven, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Elite speed and he can do some damage out of the back field in the passing game.
39:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm a little nervous to see what happens there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because he's a guy that obviously didn't have a lot of tape on, but our defense struggled this past week.
39:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, he's someone to watch out for is what I'll say.
40:03
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, Carson went, I like our scheme against them.
40:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know that we have the players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on defense to really do what Dennis Allen wants.
40:14
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, it's the first week for all of us, and then included, and they talked a lot about doing their assignment and not doing anything more than that.
40:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So you wonder if some of the, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: the times that Bryce was able to escape the pocket, somebody maybe wasn't disciplined in their rush and kind of got out of their lane to try to make a play.
40:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And then their pros, and they have a strong office of line that Panthers do, just like the Vikings do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you wonder if maybe that was some of it.
40:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So if they could just dial in, because it's still the first game for them, maybe we'll have more success.
40:49
[SPEAKER_01]: But either way, I'm confident I think we get the W here too.
40:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And forget what I rated it on the bears by seven scheduled prediction piece and like I told you I I messed that up anyway I had If it was up it was down at least I got the the prediction like the win losses right yeah but as far as confidence in the wins I I feel like I'm Mid middle the pat confident in this this win this week I can look it up on the leader board and see what you gave her for points I'm pretty
41:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on a second here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What did I give it?
41:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I gave it 10 points.
41:29
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like somewhat confident the bear.
41:31
[SPEAKER_00]: So when this game going in, because I feel like there's that revenge factor, just the way they lost the opener to them last year, it shouldn't have happened.
41:38
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you want to get a win back on your home field.
41:40
[SPEAKER_00]: The bear's ended up beating him in Minnesota, but it took kind of a miracle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The win that game, but we saw that a lot last year.
41:47
[SPEAKER_00]: But this is one you think that Ben's really, probably had it circled on his calendar to get a win after how his first game as bears had coach went last year,
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[SPEAKER_00]: in the fourth quarter.
41:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I went back and I watched the tape on the Vikings and the Packers game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing about went was that like he had one long completion to Justin Jefferson 39 yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for a touchdown, but outside of that, he was mostly dinking and dunking the whole time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He only had 133 yards passing on 12 completions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you take away the one that's almost 40 yards, then you're talking to 11 completions for like 90 yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I mean, he was a lot of underneath stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, he also maybe had a little bit more success because Green Bay wasn't expecting to play him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they didn't prep for him really at all and on the bears have been able to,
42:40
[SPEAKER_00]: understand that it's probably going to be him that they're going to be going up against.
42:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, I just, I feel like they're definitely going to get points.
42:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not confident our defense at all right now.
42:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get me wrong.
42:49
[SPEAKER_00]: But I am confident in them getting able, being able to get enough stops, especially down the stretch versus, you know, our offense being able to score points.
42:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, you're going up against Brian for is it's going to be a challenge for sure.
43:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to do a score prediction right now?
43:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we do it.
43:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You go for it.
43:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't prepared for that.
43:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
43:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to take the bears and this way in a close one.
43:16
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm going to say the bears get the win 35 31.
43:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Go 35 31.
43:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
43:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
43:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to say, I'm going to say 30 to 24.
43:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
43:37
[SPEAKER_01]: 34, I do like our ability to put up points against anybody.
43:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm eager to see Rome and or Lou Thur step up.
43:50
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm not, I'm not very confident in our defense right now.
43:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And the way that Jalen looked and flip side Justin Jefferson, like we said, he looked like his old self and he dominated.
44:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm also a little bit concerned about TJ Hawkins and you know, Caroline didn't have a tie-down like him.
44:12
[SPEAKER_01]: and he seems to always do well with us, even when he was of the lions.
44:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, can they pick on a rookie, like Thineman, you know, who knows, and he's, you know, Hockensinsa, he's a pretty underrated Titan in my opinion, but he's 65, 250 pounds, you know, Thineman's 61, 200, you know,
44:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be interesting to see, and can we get after Wants, is he going to think and dunk?
44:44
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll definitely push show up.
44:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was so excited to see him.
44:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I brought him in my 25 year fancy league that does IDPs, individual defense of players.
44:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And he did nothing.
44:56
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't show up at all, he disappeared.
45:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw him one time get folded backwards, got crushed when he tried to blitz.
45:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was it.
45:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see him again.
45:07
[SPEAKER_01]: What was going on there, but yeah, and with the fact that George Mason's going to be out, adds another wrinkle into it, but I, you know, Justin Jefferson is that guy, you know, all you need is a quarterback that's going to give him chances and Wence will at least do that.
45:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, because we might not be able to get to Wence
45:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to have time to throw it and hopefully somebody can make a play.
45:34
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm wearing the 31 for a reason.
45:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully our boy D.T.
45:38
[SPEAKER_01]: steps up.
45:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I mean, soldier fields can be absolutely rocking.
45:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And you hope that that home crowd can get that D line motivated to make enough plays to, you know, make the difference and get after once.
45:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you get to turn over, you know, we'll see what happens.
45:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I was
45:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I was more confident that we'd be the Panthers and I am here.
45:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Division games, you never know what's going to happen.
45:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, last division games that there's famously only one, two of them, total and split with the Vikings, so it'd be nice to accept the tone, get a division victory here right away, and really just take command of the division.
46:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.
46:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, exactly.
46:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think Detroit's going to lose tomorrow night.
46:19
[SPEAKER_01]: They're without most of their offensive line against a very stout to Buffalo Bill Squad.
46:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to DJ.
46:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the Vikings just beat the packers.
46:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So if we can get this win and the Lions lose tomorrow night, you know, we're all the sudden, you know, run in home free and then gosh, yeah, I think about that game.
46:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're not trying to look ahead, but that's what we're doing right now, just because we're at that point.
46:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But you got the Eagles Monday night who I expect to be three or two and oh, by then.
46:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I forget who the Eagles have, but that's for next year's pod anyway.
47:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think they're going to win that game.
47:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it's going to be a Monday night game.
47:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe it's in Chicago.
47:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
47:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's going to be a, that's going to get crazy game.
47:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Because, you know, the other thing is there's three conference games in a row here.
47:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
47:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's, that's a notable aspect of this opening schedule.
47:21
[SPEAKER_01]: When we're just kind of figuring things out still.
47:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we have the jets, and then we go to Lambo.
47:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, this would be a huge game because it's a divisional game, because they beat the packers, because I expect the lines to lose to the suitable contender bills.
47:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But we've got to win this game.
47:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you're right.
47:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Ben is,
47:43
[SPEAKER_01]: is got this one circle too, you know, like we squeaked by with our win and they beat us at home.
47:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And he hears the talk like, I don't know if you saw his interview today when it comes up front for us.
47:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this answer.
47:55
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, you know, how do you not overthink it basically?
47:57
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I'm actually doing that right now.
47:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm overthinking it as we speak.
48:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's, you know, that's the nature of this game with, with, with, you know, meticulously prepared coordinators that change things up.
48:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
48:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, what fascinates me and what I would like to ask is like, how much did each of these guys, with hold from week one, just because they want to show it this week.
48:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's, that's the fascinating part, but, you know, if you like good schematic play,
48:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, tune in this week, especially when the Bears have the ball.
48:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
48:35
[SPEAKER_00]: It should be a great game.
48:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I am really, really looking forward to it.
48:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Looking forward to seeing soldier feel packed for the first time since the playoffs and I'm also looking forward to what imagine if the New York Jets beat the Green Bay Packers and what sports radio at Wisconsin's going to be like, oh, can you imagine?
48:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you imagine?
48:56
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll have
49:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's never too early to talk about the cheese and in title town, you know, all that they've been through, you know, yeah, you hate to see it for anybody to kind of, you know, fall apart and, you know, just unravel like like they all are, but.
49:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, never to really get prepared.
49:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And we are.
49:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you have it behind you.
49:27
[SPEAKER_01]: We're giving away another one of these.
49:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
49:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, probably next week, we wanted to give you guys more time this time to tune in and and follow and like all that good stuff.
49:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but we want to we want to do a couple
49:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So, so definitely stay tuned and if you would prefer the T-shirt variety, we could probably hook you up with that too.
50:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to Rob over at Tally Brand for this awesome merch you can see as it get.
50:05
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, I don't know if you saw this, I appreciate you did, but I also ordered some of the the greater guys dangling cheese grater earrings for my wife and my two oldest.
50:19
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's fun.
50:22
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to get with John, get him back on the show.
50:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe do some giveaways with those before, you know, cheese week.
50:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's great.
50:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Great merch.
50:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Jonathan is such a great guy.
50:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And I talked to him at one point over the summer and he kind of glued me in that he was going to be doing that.
50:42
[SPEAKER_00]: and oh god like the earrings the the greater person is it turned out so good you check those out it's the greater guys like cheese greater g r a t e r not a hater just a greater is their tagline it's just so he told me that i started laughing on the phone immediately so good uh we i also have a pair for my wife oh did you yeah yeah she loves them so
51:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice and he's got him.
51:07
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the person's in different teams too.
51:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You can get a lion's great cheese grater.
51:12
[SPEAKER_01]: You can get a Vikings cheese grater because as the Viking fan pointed out today, you know, the cheese has just been entitled for so long.
51:21
[SPEAKER_01]: and they don't handle any sort of failure.
51:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they are not humble and it's it's frustrating, but we can all unite in the cheese grater fandom.
51:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm looking forward to having those too.
51:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we'll get Jonathan back on the show at some point this year.
51:40
[SPEAKER_00]: We had a great time with him last year and he started the cheese grater Purses when he went to the NFL award ceremony as the fan of the year and his wife was wearing one and George McCaskey really liked it and he said Maybe he was a market for these so he's he's making them check it out and then like Brian said next week We'll give away one of these chokehold burden
51:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Akisha Nixon flags, which are, you can see mine on the video stream behind me.
52:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really high quality.
52:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're like 50 bucks on the website.
52:05
[SPEAKER_00]: You can get one for free.
52:06
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll just do the live drawing next week.
52:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll probably be a situation where you got to retweet a tweet and follow our accounts.
52:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Make sure you're following us on Twitter at Ryan Drosty, DROSTE, or at Brian Orange Chuck.
52:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll be given those way, follow Robert Talley brand, of course, as well.
52:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll get that tweet up.
52:24
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be a retweet thing like I said.
52:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And then over the next week, you can enter.
52:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll draw live on the show next week for one of those.
52:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll do it a few weeks in a row to get ready, like Brian said, for eight week, when we play the packers there on October 11th, there's something like that.
52:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Whenever that is.
52:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think that's all I got Brian, so it's been a fun one, man.
52:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Always fun to drink a beer and talk bears football midweek with you.
52:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, especially after a win, but it'll be even sweeter getting the divisional win next week.
52:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we got our predictions in.
52:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Let us know what you're drinking tonight.
52:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Let us know what your prediction is.
53:03
[SPEAKER_01]: share this with the Vikings friend of yours.
53:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, if nothing else we can unite over our disdain for the stinky cheese.
53:14
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, do you remember last year we did around Halloween.
53:18
[SPEAKER_00]: We did the show bears greatest villains and we actually set among the division rivals that we disliked the Vikings the least amount.
53:25
[SPEAKER_00]: that we there's just more players on the packers and lines that we just liked over the years and if we had to rate how much we despise the teams the Vikings were like behind Detroit and Green Bay.
53:34
[SPEAKER_00]: So we can at least unite on that.
53:37
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I did a show with Kevin over at Bears by seven on Monday night.
53:40
[SPEAKER_00]: We had some Vikings fans in the chat room and they were like complimenting our show.
53:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Very nice Minnesota nice type people.
53:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I appreciate that.
53:48
[SPEAKER_00]: They just thought we were being fair about the way we were previewing the game and everything.
53:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have
53:55
[SPEAKER_00]: that are Vikings fans here being in northern Iowa, my wife's in Minnesota.
53:58
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's always a fun game when the Bears of Vikings play.
54:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm really, really looking forward to it.
54:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Looking forward to talking with Brian next week, of course, on Wednesday night, breaking it all down.
54:09
[SPEAKER_00]: You can also find me like I said at Bears by seven.
54:11
[SPEAKER_00]: it's a separate podcast channel and video channel would love to have you subscribe and check out those shows I'm doing with Kevin Kadeck another good friend of mine, longtime Chicago Sports Personality, we'll have to blend our shows and get him on here sometime this year and get Brian over on Bears by seven as well.
54:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, man, just been doing a lot of bear's content and with the bear's plan, how they did the other day, it's definitely made it worthwhile and a lot of fun to do.
54:35
[SPEAKER_00]: So looking forward to this season, glad the bear's got the win and, uh, which talking to the all suit.
54:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So, briny, parting words.
54:44
[SPEAKER_00]: No, bear down.
54:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Bear down, everybody.
54:47
[SPEAKER_00]: We will talk to you again, we'll see you.
54:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Take care of you.