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- 0:04Speaker 1: All systems gone clear the lift up. What's up everyone?
- 0:36Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo back for another
- 0:39Speaker 1: edition of the Ship a Nation NFL mainslad show. Got
- 0:43Speaker 1: my guy Hoop and title here with me as always
- 0:45Speaker 1: to break down all things Week eight. Do us a
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- 1:06Speaker 1: to one record head to head. We'll see how that goes.
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- 1:23Speaker 1: nineteen at the site Hoop. I'll bring you in first. Man,
- 1:26Speaker 1: it is National tight End week and here we go.
- 1:29Speaker 1: So what's going on, man, how are you?
- 1:31Speaker 2: Everything's going well? Nothing to really add on to the
- 1:34Speaker 2: national tight end talk. I feel like they do it
- 1:37Speaker 2: multi could be totally wrong, but I feel like they
- 1:38Speaker 2: do it like multiple times, like per year. I don't know,
- 1:41Speaker 2: it seems like everyone's always talking about this. Definitely not
- 1:45Speaker 2: going to affect anything I do today, I'll tell you
- 1:46Speaker 2: that much. In regards to the the slate, I mean yeah,
- 1:52Speaker 2: I mean a lot are really really bad quarterback starting.
- 1:55Speaker 2: That's the first thing that pops in my mind. We
- 1:57Speaker 2: got Tyler Huntlee, which I think is definitely better than
- 2:00Speaker 2: the Cooper Rush situation. Kirk Cousins back in Our Lives,
- 2:04Speaker 2: got Justin Fields back to being a starting quarterback. Tua
- 2:09Speaker 2: added to the injury I don't even if they officially
- 2:12Speaker 2: added him to the injury report, but he's ill or
- 2:14Speaker 2: something in the sporting.
- 2:15Speaker 1: So yeah, he's the injury report with illness. Yeah.
- 2:17Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know Joe Flacco is playing, which you know,
- 2:20Speaker 2: not a shitty quarterback. I mean that that offense looked
- 2:23Speaker 2: really good last week, but not many high end quarterbacks,
- 2:27Speaker 2: it's definitely the first thing that kind of stands out
- 2:29Speaker 2: to me. We kind of go to the running back position,
- 2:33Speaker 2: and again it seems like it's been the case a
- 2:35Speaker 2: lot this season where it's just like a group of six, seven,
- 2:39Speaker 2: eight strong running back plays, and we have that again today.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Wide receiver, I think though, is the interesting spot because
- 2:46Speaker 2: it's pretty wide open, like if you're playing on DK,
- 2:50Speaker 2: you know, the Jamar Chase price tag is not great
- 2:53Speaker 2: and like even a Buka is a little underpriced. Fand
- 2:55Speaker 2: Will definitely did a better job at the pricing. But
- 2:57Speaker 2: after a few of the top end guys, pretty wide
- 3:00Speaker 2: open up wide receiver and then tight end, we have
- 3:02Speaker 2: some very very strong value plays that we'll get to.
- 3:05Speaker 2: One that I like quite a bit for the obvious reasons,
- 3:09Speaker 2: which we'll talk about when we get to that game.
- 3:11Speaker 2: But you know, I think it's you know, WI wide receiver.
- 3:15Speaker 2: What you do there is going to be pretty big
- 3:17Speaker 2: this week because the other spots the wide receiver quarterback
- 3:20Speaker 2: can think are pretty important as well. I mean, and
- 3:22Speaker 2: that's where you can look for your pairings. But it
- 3:23Speaker 2: is when you're looking to stack certain quarterbacks, it's tough
- 3:27Speaker 2: because with these these cheap quarterbacks we haven't play. The
- 3:30Speaker 2: pairings might not be great. And then the one big
- 3:32Speaker 2: piece of news for this late is definitely Drake London
- 3:35Speaker 2: popped up on the injury report yesterday kind of out
- 3:38Speaker 2: of nowhere with the hip and I got to see
- 3:40Speaker 2: if he plays, and even if he does play, I mean,
- 3:42Speaker 2: he's a guy that you have no problem leaving a
- 3:44Speaker 2: game early if he's not feeling well. So it's a
- 3:47Speaker 2: it's a tough situation to monitor. So hopefully we get
- 3:50Speaker 2: some clarity on that. Maybe they say, oh yeah, it's
- 3:52Speaker 2: just a precautionary add to the injury report. He's good
- 3:54Speaker 2: to go. That would be best case scenario. But we'll
- 3:56Speaker 2: see a lot of money up top. And you know,
- 3:59Speaker 2: what we're looking at do is definitely keep the momentum going.
- 4:02Speaker 2: You had the big week last weekend and that continued
- 4:06Speaker 2: into the Monday night game and a lot of members
- 4:08Speaker 2: having big, big time success not only in NFL but
- 4:11Speaker 2: an NBA as well. And you see this, I mean,
- 4:14Speaker 2: I've been doing this for a very, very long time,
- 4:16Speaker 2: and when that momentum starts to build, you know, things
- 4:21Speaker 2: tend to continue on the right track for a little while.
- 4:23Speaker 2: So looking to do that today.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to my man Nick. Last week he said,
- 4:27Speaker 1: somebody's gonna do well. I said in the chat last show,
- 4:29Speaker 1: this exact show last week as it kenemy me, please
- 4:31Speaker 1: even one hundred k. He goes, fine, one hundred k
- 4:34Speaker 1: for you. Didn't quite get there on Sunday, but with
- 4:36Speaker 1: the Monday night win and then a good week in
- 4:39Speaker 1: the NBA street shut up to our NBA team over
- 4:40Speaker 1: there getting it done. Got pretty close, so very profitable week.
- 4:43Speaker 1: He says, he's got hoop up top for a MILLI title.
- 4:46Speaker 1: I'll bring you in in just one second. My friend,
- 4:47Speaker 1: just want to go through it. Our man needs back
- 4:49Speaker 1: on land. Got to get right back on the ship, buddy,
- 4:51Speaker 1: the rocket ship. We're going to the moon today Green
- 4:53Speaker 1: Bay tonight for you. But in the daytime we got
- 4:55Speaker 1: the classic Slate welcome back. We appreciate you everybody in
- 4:59Speaker 1: the chat. I see a to regulars and names we
- 5:01Speaker 1: love and appreciate. So thank you guys all for joining us.
- 5:04Speaker 1: And it is Dalton Day, I think title, but we're hoping.
- 5:08Speaker 1: I'm hoping another Dalton is active. He's another piece of
- 5:10Speaker 1: information we're waiting on. I know Hoopster likes a one
- 5:12Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz, but Dalton Kincaid on this slate as well.
- 5:16Speaker 1: And we'll get to mister Josh Allen later on title
- 5:18Speaker 1: Free Money Sunday. Baby, what's going on?
- 5:20Speaker 3: Yeah, what a day. I mean to cap it off
- 5:22Speaker 3: tonight too, Rogers and the Packers. Well, I can't wait
- 5:25Speaker 3: for that game. That's gonna be a lot of fun.
- 5:27Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a good slate. I mean, it all
- 5:30Speaker 3: makes sense why it's National tight End Day, because for
- 5:32Speaker 3: dfs it's kind of National tight end Day too. Two
- 5:35Speaker 3: tight end builds will be very popular. Gets you like right,
- 5:39Speaker 3: I think Hoops summed it up perfectly. Quarterback will be
- 5:41Speaker 3: so spread out running back there's just not value on
- 5:44Speaker 3: the slate people want to go to, so it'll almost
- 5:46Speaker 3: be like Rashad White and above. And you have plenty
- 5:48Speaker 3: of studs. I mean, some of the best highest projected
- 5:51Speaker 3: guys on the slate are at running back receivers, the
- 5:54Speaker 3: weakest position I think on the slate this week. You
- 5:57Speaker 3: do have people in all different tiers though Chase looks
- 5:59Speaker 3: really strong. You have mid tier options and we do
- 6:02Speaker 3: have three k very viable guys that make a lot
- 6:05Speaker 3: work on this slate. But when you compare those three
- 6:07Speaker 3: K receivers to the three K tight ends, the tight
- 6:10Speaker 3: ends are projecting better. They're on the field more, the
- 6:12Speaker 3: target share is better, which will lead to a lot
- 6:14Speaker 3: more double tight end builds. So yeah, pretty open ten games,
- 6:17Speaker 3: three in the afternoon window, soilate.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Yeah, Usually it goes bad when people say this, but
- 6:23Speaker 1: I don't like to think negatively, and I will say
- 6:24Speaker 1: one of my favorite slates of the year, and maybe
- 6:26Speaker 1: and not for others. I think a lot of people
- 6:28Speaker 1: say it's hard, it's tough, it's tricky to figure out
- 6:30Speaker 1: is this, that and the other? All probably true, but
- 6:32Speaker 1: there's nothing better because we all play with the same game,
- 6:35Speaker 1: the same pieces. We're all opening up the same box,
- 6:37Speaker 1: dumping out the parts on the table, and we got
- 6:39Speaker 1: to build it. So to me, I love this slate.
- 6:41Speaker 1: It's gonna be good going through it. I think there's
- 6:42Speaker 1: a ton of big ideas as we go throughout our
- 6:45Speaker 1: man Nick is a little bit for you there title
- 6:47Speaker 1: he left a few breadcrumbs for youself.
- 6:49Speaker 3: I'll take I'll take thirty K any day. That's that's
- 6:52Speaker 3: great over here, So I appreciate it.
- 6:53Speaker 1: With Reillily I'm getting one hundred K, title gets thirty K.
- 6:56Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm in.
- 6:58Speaker 1: We'll take it big. Vegas can't be users. Yeah, we
- 7:01Speaker 1: love to see it. Thank you Nick, and thank you
- 7:02Speaker 1: everybody my man alex Han out there. Appreciate you as well,
- 7:06Speaker 1: a lot lots of good people out there letting us
- 7:07Speaker 1: know what's going on. Do you have any other thoughts?
- 7:10Speaker 1: I know you have the weather, the props, things like
- 7:12Speaker 1: that up title, any other grand scheme overview from you.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Just with the way the slate's setting up, I think
- 7:15Speaker 1: who mentioned it? You hear zero running back all summer
- 7:19Speaker 1: and then you get to DFS slates and it's like
- 7:20Speaker 1: nine running backs every slate, ten running backs every slate.
- 7:23Speaker 1: What's the thought process around how you see it shaping
- 7:26Speaker 1: up today?
- 7:27Speaker 3: Yeah, to be fair, like the zero running backs the
- 7:29Speaker 3: best ball, it's just the most injury prone and like
- 7:32Speaker 3: if Bijon gets hurt, that l'gier pick or whatever goes
- 7:36Speaker 3: up in value. But yeah, no, I think, just like
- 7:38Speaker 3: no weather to worry about it all again? Ten games,
- 7:41Speaker 3: so I mean lake SWAP's always in play with a
- 7:43Speaker 3: one game that I mean has the highest total. I
- 7:46Speaker 3: saw a little chatter in discord about it. Fifty one
- 7:48Speaker 3: and a half, the Cowboys Broncos not getting too much love.
- 7:52Speaker 3: So I do like to see like QB ownership is
- 7:54Speaker 3: really spread out. But yeah, just my broadside overview is
- 7:57Speaker 3: kind of just people want to spend that running back
- 7:59Speaker 3: receiver I think's the weakest position all options and all
- 8:02Speaker 3: different price ranges though, and tight end double tight end
- 8:05Speaker 3: will be popular because what injuries at receiver have done
- 8:09Speaker 3: to make better tight ends better and also they just
- 8:12Speaker 3: refuse to braise their pricing at tight end. So even
- 8:15Speaker 3: the Tyler Warrens, the guys that you can consider wide
- 8:17Speaker 3: receivers are like main targets on their team, are pretty mispriced.
- 8:21Speaker 1: It feels like, Yeah, one of the things I love
- 8:23Speaker 1: about this saying I'll say a piece now and then
- 8:24Speaker 1: I'll definitely get to when we go through the game
- 8:26Speaker 1: by game hoop. I'll come to you in a moment
- 8:27Speaker 1: for the Dolphins at the Falcons talking about Kirk Cousins
- 8:30Speaker 1: waiting on that London news. But just quickly, I'm you know,
- 8:33Speaker 1: in building up my stuff, I have very little double
- 8:36Speaker 1: tight end, and I just it's just the way it's
- 8:38Speaker 1: working out. I just it makes sense. I see it.
- 8:41Speaker 1: One thing I see about it though as well. There
- 8:43Speaker 1: is different options and some of them do make sense.
- 8:45Speaker 1: It's not like I have none. I'm just saying it's
- 8:47Speaker 1: it's typically like Schaltz and Goddard and things like that
- 8:50Speaker 1: that are popping up, and to me it's just not
- 8:52Speaker 1: only do those two make a ton of sense on paper,
- 8:55Speaker 1: which I get, but the problem I have with it
- 8:57Speaker 1: looking for the big shot full MILLI takedown types up
- 9:00Speaker 1: is that ends up just putting me on even more chalk.
- 9:03Speaker 1: In other places. Again, you can use sabersim and things
- 9:06Speaker 1: like that your advantage so that you don't end up
- 9:07Speaker 1: like that. Tons of different ways to get different with
- 9:09Speaker 1: your stacks, but I think people are less comfortable with
- 9:12Speaker 1: some of these uglier stacks and different setups on their build,
- 9:14Speaker 1: so they're using that to get back to comfort. When
- 9:17Speaker 1: you're using comfort to get back to comfort, it becomes
- 9:21Speaker 1: a little bit tricky. And some of these large field
- 9:23Speaker 1: top heavy tournaments. So that's just my thoughts on the
- 9:25Speaker 1: double tight end stuff. Whoop, I'll go to you Game one.
- 9:28Speaker 1: We've got the Dolphins at the Falcons. There's ten games
- 9:31Speaker 1: on this late three in the afternoon. We're gonna kick
- 9:33Speaker 1: off the morning with this one. What do you got?
- 9:35Speaker 2: I think it's a good game, and like kind of
- 9:38Speaker 2: talked about it a little bit in the opening with
- 9:41Speaker 2: Drake London. And maybe we get the news before eleven
- 9:44Speaker 2: and thirty Eastern, which I kind of hope is the case,
- 9:46Speaker 2: we have a chance to touch on it or circle back.
- 9:48Speaker 2: But if he's in, I really like the Falcon side
- 9:53Speaker 2: and even the Dolphins side, and I'll kind of talk
- 9:55Speaker 2: through it, but I don't know. I think I kind
- 9:57Speaker 2: of need him to be in for it to all work,
- 9:59Speaker 2: just because I think this offense if he's out is
- 10:02Speaker 2: going to look totally different. I mean that you could
- 10:04Speaker 2: see I think Jean Robinson getting so it already gets
- 10:08Speaker 2: a ton of work, don't get me wrong, but like
- 10:10Speaker 2: they could just fully lean on him offensively to get
- 10:13Speaker 2: through this one if London is out. If he's in,
- 10:17Speaker 2: then I think Kirk Cousins, you know, they trust Kirk
- 10:19Speaker 2: Cousins to throw the ball if London is in. If
- 10:22Speaker 2: he's out, it, like I said, I think it's gonna
- 10:23Speaker 2: be a little bit of a different story. So I
- 10:25Speaker 2: want London in for this game. If London's out, I'm
- 10:28Speaker 2: probably mostly out on this game. I love the Cousins stuff,
- 10:34Speaker 2: super cheap. He's not like a random backup tight end.
- 10:37Speaker 2: He's been in this league. He started before, and that's
- 10:39Speaker 2: something I look to if I'm going to play a
- 10:41Speaker 2: backup quarterback. He's been with this team for a while
- 10:44Speaker 2: and I would love him. Drake London, I think he
- 10:48Speaker 2: can play Mooney and then even since some Kyle Pitts,
- 10:50Speaker 2: and then if you're not doing that, you have arguably
- 10:53Speaker 2: the best running back in the NFL, or one of them,
- 10:55Speaker 2: Bjhon Robinson. They can get it all done. So if
- 10:59Speaker 2: Cousins is in, I like the passing attack and Bijon.
- 11:02Speaker 2: If Cousins is out, I'm gonna bump Bijon and think
- 11:06Speaker 2: that they just kind of lean on him in order
- 11:08Speaker 2: to make this whole game work. I mean, you do
- 11:10Speaker 2: have pieces on the other side. Like the Dolphins have
- 11:12Speaker 2: been bad, don't get me wrong, Like they've been very bad,
- 11:14Speaker 2: and we picked on him last week. It was my
- 11:16Speaker 2: first big bat of the season going with the Browns
- 11:19Speaker 2: over the Dolphins. I think they can be productive here
- 11:22Speaker 2: and keep this game relatively close in the Dome. I mean,
- 11:26Speaker 2: it's a bad spot anytime Miami is on the road
- 11:29Speaker 2: with bad weather. Just pick against them, and it's worked,
- 11:32Speaker 2: seems like almost every single time. But I think in
- 11:36Speaker 2: this dome they can be a little more productive. Not
- 11:39Speaker 2: playing any two of stuff. Don't get me wrong, but
- 11:41Speaker 2: a Chan is a guy that you know can can
- 11:44Speaker 2: kind of get there in any sort of game. Script
- 11:45Speaker 2: the price is down a little bit. I really like
- 11:47Speaker 2: Jalen Wattle. I think Wattle is a great play today.
- 11:50Speaker 2: Shouldn't have too much ownership, and again they made some
- 11:55Speaker 2: comments about getting him more involved, and that's they just
- 11:57Speaker 2: have to, I mean, look at their other options. So
- 11:59Speaker 2: I'm in on the Wattle stuff. Milake Washington, you have
- 12:02Speaker 2: is a cheap wide receiver. I mean, I guess the
- 12:04Speaker 2: one big thing like Dearren not big, but Darren Waller's out.
- 12:07Speaker 2: They're using him a ton like it's got to go
- 12:09Speaker 2: to somebody. So really like Wattle today, Really like a
- 12:13Speaker 2: Chan and I'd really really like this game if Drake
- 12:16Speaker 2: London is in. I feel like I've said that about
- 12:18Speaker 2: five times, so I'll just kind of stop there.
- 12:21Speaker 1: That's perfect. I will say they do get the ball,
- 12:23Speaker 1: doesn't have to go to somebody. And I think our
- 12:25Speaker 1: man Rob lay the house, got it. Yeah, it might
- 12:27Speaker 1: go to that Atlanta defense. I think the most interesting
- 12:30Speaker 1: ways today to play Bijon is with the Atlanta defense
- 12:33Speaker 1: is that will cut into him. If you have the stone.
- 12:35Speaker 1: It's good enough on the defense number for me to
- 12:37Speaker 1: go with a very good number when it comes to Beijon.
- 12:39Speaker 1: No surprise there. So shout out to our man Rob
- 12:42Speaker 1: five hy Gary's in the building coming off the live
- 12:44Speaker 1: final seat, Appreciate him. The NBA Showdown ship or Queen
- 12:48Speaker 1: our girl Kim, she's using the beg little neck towers
- 12:51Speaker 1: that we got over there at the Nation, So that's
- 12:52Speaker 1: what I'd love to see that. Our girl Drea said
- 12:55Speaker 1: she likes Algier in the large field stuff. So title,
- 12:57Speaker 1: you know what's coming to you. Got to think about
- 12:59Speaker 1: this for two seconds. My man, Alex, appreciate you. I
- 13:01Speaker 1: hope you're enjoying your customer experience on YouTube. And Aaron
- 13:05Speaker 1: Smith says, red rocket ship in the cards. We could
- 13:08Speaker 1: see that today. We've got Andy Dalton. We'll get there
- 13:10Speaker 1: in just a couple of games. The title, I'll kick
- 13:12Speaker 1: it to you Algier would be interesting. I guess large
- 13:14Speaker 1: field and stuff, but probably not first thoughts. And you're
- 13:17Speaker 1: you're gonna be probably interested in some of this other
- 13:19Speaker 1: stuff with Bijon and whatnot. And how are you handling
- 13:21Speaker 1: the Drake London News. You're the king of the if
- 13:23Speaker 1: if then scenarios. Let us know.
- 13:26Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Algier is a show down play. I
- 13:28Speaker 3: can't click that name. If he gets two or three,
- 13:30Speaker 3: I'll live to fight another day.
- 13:32Speaker 2: Let me just add on to that. Let me just
- 13:33Speaker 2: add on to that point real quick. I do think
- 13:35Speaker 2: it's important to a question that comes up a lot
- 13:37Speaker 2: in these chats about like the backup running backs, and
- 13:40Speaker 2: it's tough for a couple of reasons. First off, yes,
- 13:42Speaker 2: they've priced up a couple of guys today, a couple
- 13:44Speaker 2: of these running backs, but overall the rest of the
- 13:46Speaker 2: spots pricing is very, very soft. It's just going to
- 13:49Speaker 2: lead to bigger overall fantasy scores. And these running backs
- 13:53Speaker 2: have just been smashing. So for like a backup running
- 13:56Speaker 2: back to get there, it's like you said, it's got
- 13:58Speaker 2: to be two or three touchdown, and I just don't
- 14:01Speaker 2: think that's feasible. So I just I don't think you
- 14:05Speaker 2: can do the backup running backs basically unless we get
- 14:08Speaker 2: like super tough pricing. We get very very tough pricing,
- 14:12Speaker 2: then you can they need he probably needs three running
- 14:15Speaker 2: backs or three touchdowns to be the running back today.
- 14:18Speaker 3: And then once you do that, you know you're gonna
- 14:19Speaker 3: have a snowflake somewhere in your team and you're gonna
- 14:21Speaker 3: get pissed because you didn't win it because that guy
- 14:24Speaker 3: did it.
- 14:24Speaker 1: So you had one lineup but it didn't work out. Yeah,
- 14:27Speaker 1: you didn't get the other eight pieces correct and the
- 14:29Speaker 1: one lineup of fifty that you built and put him
- 14:31Speaker 1: in there, so that just if you're doing that, I
- 14:32Speaker 1: think you got to do it. That's always my take.
- 14:35Speaker 3: Yeah to this game, I mean, yeah, shout out Tyler,
- 14:38Speaker 3: what's going on. I hope everything's going well. But I
- 14:41Speaker 3: think be John's probably the best play on this late.
- 14:43Speaker 3: This dude is insane at football. The Dolphins are insanely
- 14:46Speaker 3: bad at football. The Stone shows it. I mean, this
- 14:50Speaker 3: Dolphins team's dot. I don't h chan waddle one offs
- 14:54Speaker 3: when I'm running Falcon stuff. Sure like I can get
- 14:58Speaker 3: there in so many ways, big playoff side, but really
- 15:00Speaker 3: all they have is wattle so in Falcon stuff, and
- 15:03Speaker 3: I do think the Falcons move the ball and score points.
- 15:06Speaker 3: I'm good with them as runbacks, but that's about it there. Yeah,
- 15:10Speaker 3: the passing game, I've been kind of going back and
- 15:12Speaker 3: forth on because while like if London plays, Kirk has
- 15:16Speaker 3: so many options, but he's a statue like why would
- 15:19Speaker 3: they not just hand it off a billion times? And
- 15:22Speaker 3: also he has like if London plays, it's London, it's Mooney,
- 15:25Speaker 3: it's Pits. Do you want to play two of them?
- 15:27Speaker 3: Like I'm kind of struggling on who to pair them
- 15:31Speaker 3: with and just how many to pair him with, because
- 15:32Speaker 3: then it's Bijon, Like there's so many dump offfs from
- 15:35Speaker 3: Bijon where it's like, okay, if I play Cousins, like
- 15:37Speaker 3: I still probably want to play Bijon, then I'm picking
- 15:40Speaker 3: one after and then is it a chan or waddle
- 15:43Speaker 3: on the run back. It just feels a little harder
- 15:45Speaker 3: to get right than some other games, which is why
- 15:47Speaker 3: ownership will be spread out. I think I almost prefer
- 15:50Speaker 3: if there is no London, but I do agree to
- 15:52Speaker 3: Hoop's point. If there's no London, maybe they just run
- 15:55Speaker 3: the ball every single play and don't even have to
- 15:58Speaker 3: worry about dropping back, Like I was looking at Kirk's
- 16:00Speaker 3: passing props two twenty two and a half. I mean,
- 16:03Speaker 3: that's not great for someone that's gonna not run the
- 16:05Speaker 3: ball at all on a ten game main slate. So
- 16:08Speaker 3: I think I backed off a little bit on the
- 16:10Speaker 3: passing stuff. I don't mind like Pits at tight end
- 16:13Speaker 3: to get different at a onesie position Drake if he plays,
- 16:17Speaker 3: if you're not playing Bijon and stuff. But my favorite
- 16:19Speaker 3: way to play it is just hammered Bejon. The dude's
- 16:21Speaker 3: a stud. And I don't hate, like you said, the
- 16:23Speaker 3: Falcons d Bejon stuff. They're over priced at three to five.
- 16:27Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, two in this offense, I think are toast.
- 16:30Speaker 3: It's only time a matter of weeks. I think till
- 16:34Speaker 3: till Big Mike is fired.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, games like four and five, when we
- 16:38Speaker 1: get there, I'll have a lot less to say. But
- 16:40Speaker 1: for one, I mean this week, I always have a
- 16:41Speaker 1: lot of decision to say that, but for on these games,
- 16:43Speaker 1: I usually don't say too much. I'll let you guys
- 16:45Speaker 1: cover it well. But I want to add, like the
- 16:47Speaker 1: Pits play nothing to do with tight End week or anything.
- 16:49Speaker 1: It's got to be phenomenal. If London is out, the
- 16:52Speaker 1: immediate reaction is going to be able to everybody to
- 16:54Speaker 1: go to the moon with Mooney like we love it
- 16:56Speaker 1: ship at Nation. We love the little correlation there. But
- 16:58Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Jon's already super popular.
- 17:01Speaker 1: It's a way that people will be thinking of, Oh,
- 17:02Speaker 1: if I can get off Vjon and go with this,
- 17:04Speaker 1: let me do that. I think Pitts is right there
- 17:06Speaker 1: at the same price as all those other tight ends.
- 17:09Speaker 1: He's a guy that could pick it up and you
- 17:11Speaker 1: got to play a onesie position. We saw this last
- 17:13Speaker 1: year with the game when for the Steelers when Pickens
- 17:15Speaker 1: was out, everyone jumps on Calvin Austin, the third Friarmouth,
- 17:19Speaker 1: who will be talking about later tonight. But that's an
- 17:21Speaker 1: example of that happening. It doesn't matter if it works again,
- 17:24Speaker 1: it matters if it works out for your lineups. But
- 17:25Speaker 1: we're only talking about concepts how to play the game.
- 17:28Speaker 1: That's a key one. Another one that I'll say, just
- 17:30Speaker 1: the second piece here is the h N stuff. I
- 17:33Speaker 1: don't believe. I think his ownership Moon walks back from
- 17:36Speaker 1: what we currently have it at. We all have final
- 17:37Speaker 1: updates before the slate hits and locks, but he's already
- 17:41Speaker 1: popping on the stone as it is on the opposite side.
- 17:44Speaker 1: If this game flows, if the game script flips, what
- 17:47Speaker 1: if it's too a sick and so they hand it
- 17:49Speaker 1: off more. And it's not like Atlanta can't get beat
- 17:52Speaker 1: on the ground. If anything, why wouldn't they want to
- 17:54Speaker 1: keep Bijon off the field. And I think one of
- 17:56Speaker 1: the things I was going to say today and I
- 17:58Speaker 1: don't care about Jinxes, you guys do, I don't care
- 17:59Speaker 1: about an this stuff. I've been wrong twice this season
- 18:03Speaker 1: in saying that it's going to be a lower scoring
- 18:04Speaker 1: slate and then it still goes off. I don't know
- 18:07Speaker 1: on this slate. But one thing I do know is
- 18:09Speaker 1: that when you have a lot of concentrated chalk and
- 18:13Speaker 1: it does bust for once, that is when you get
- 18:15Speaker 1: the lower scoring slates. Because there's not many separators in
- 18:18Speaker 1: the lineups. Only a certain set of lineups have more separators.
- 18:21Speaker 1: A Chan is for sure a separator today that if
- 18:24Speaker 1: you get him right and it's opposite side of Beijon,
- 18:26Speaker 1: you're still covering that game. You still have plays within
- 18:29Speaker 1: a game that you think can go back and forth.
- 18:31Speaker 1: But it could be a spot that is a ceiling
- 18:33Speaker 1: score you need versus one that you don't and maybe
- 18:36Speaker 1: it's a chan and pits as like a secondary because
- 18:38Speaker 1: pits would hurt Robinson, a chan could hurt the game flow.
- 18:42Speaker 1: That's two ways to do it. But I think it's
- 18:44Speaker 1: at least somewhat interesting in this game, and maybe it
- 18:46Speaker 1: ends up being just like Cousins pits a chan as
- 18:50Speaker 1: a mini stack. So again, I'm looking to look for
- 18:52Speaker 1: these scenarios specifically on this slate as ways to get
- 18:55Speaker 1: different and then fill it out from there. But there
- 18:58Speaker 1: is bases I want to cover within these games. The
- 19:00Speaker 1: last one I said it already, but it was Falcons
- 19:02Speaker 1: as a way to pair up. It looks like they'll
- 19:04Speaker 1: be maybe the third highest owned of the popular or
- 19:07Speaker 1: so of the expensive defenses, so I think that the
- 19:10Speaker 1: Falcons would be an interesting one just to pair with Robinson.
- 19:14Speaker 1: If two is actually not feeling well or if it
- 19:16Speaker 1: goes bad or if it isn't h HN, that's the way
- 19:17Speaker 1: that you can get different. So a few different ways
- 19:19Speaker 1: to play this game separately, waddle pops as well, hoop
- 19:22Speaker 1: anything else you want to add there. If not, we're
- 19:24Speaker 1: going to my favorite team, the Ravens at Home versus
- 19:27Speaker 1: the Bears with Snoop Huntley former pro bowler, by the way,
- 19:30Speaker 1: snoo Huntley, but go ahead.
- 19:32Speaker 2: Yeah that's funny. Yeah. So you know, with Lamar out,
- 19:36Speaker 2: I mean that whole situation pretty weird, full participant and
- 19:39Speaker 2: switched to not playing. And I guess the NFL is investigating,
- 19:43Speaker 2: Like who the hell knows. I mean, it really doesn't matter.
- 19:45Speaker 2: All we care about is Huntley is starting, Lamar is out,
- 19:49Speaker 2: and it does a couple of things for this game.
- 19:52Speaker 2: You know, Dereck Henry was looking to be very, very
- 19:54Speaker 2: popular at six K, still going to get some ownership.
- 19:58Speaker 2: You know, we're kind of talking pre show. I was
- 20:00Speaker 2: looking to be like thirty percent. I think it's probably
- 20:03Speaker 2: upper teams now. If you still believe in Derrick Henry
- 20:07Speaker 2: in the spot, you're getting him at much lower ownership
- 20:10Speaker 2: than if Lamar Jackson was in. And I think this offense,
- 20:13Speaker 2: you know, we've said it all along, and everyone said
- 20:15Speaker 2: it all along, like you know, Cooper Rush, and they're
- 20:18Speaker 2: not saying, what was Humbley hurt as well? Why wasn't
- 20:20Speaker 2: Why weren't they starting Huntley?
- 20:22Speaker 1: I don't know what the whole situation was.
- 20:24Speaker 3: I put him in at the end of the fourth quarter,
- 20:26Speaker 3: like to try and get a spark and it was
- 20:27Speaker 3: like four to fourth and thirteen and he uses his
- 20:29Speaker 3: likes for a first time. I mean, just but why.
- 20:32Speaker 2: Were they going Rush over Huntley just because just the NFL?
- 20:36Speaker 2: Yeah quarter, Yeah, coaches, I don't know. Yeah, So I
- 20:39Speaker 2: mean this week obviously makes way more sense in their
- 20:41Speaker 2: favorite Like if Rush was started, that's the one thing
- 20:44Speaker 2: that these these people need to look at. If Rush
- 20:46Speaker 2: is starting this game, it's probably a pick them. Huntley's
- 20:49Speaker 2: in there and they're favored by three, Like that should
- 20:51Speaker 2: tell you all you need to know in offense. Actually,
- 20:55Speaker 2: I think has a chance today. They're projected to score
- 20:58Speaker 2: twenty four, twenty five points. That's a legit number. Jay
- 21:02Speaker 2: Flowers is cheap. I mean, that's another situation. Zay Flowers
- 21:05Speaker 2: is going to be one of the most popular wide
- 21:07Speaker 2: receivers on this lag with Lamar in now, he's not
- 21:10Speaker 2: going to be very popular at all. So again, if
- 21:12Speaker 2: you believe in this offense, if you believe in Huntley
- 21:14Speaker 2: at all, it's probably a good spot to capitalize on,
- 21:18Speaker 2: uh some lower ownership, lower than what it would have been.
- 21:20Speaker 2: And I'm in on it, you know, Henry, I'm still
- 21:23Speaker 2: going to play a lot of I think they have
- 21:25Speaker 2: to win this game. That's the other thing. Like, if
- 21:27Speaker 2: they lose this, even with Lamar coming back, it is
- 21:29Speaker 2: gonna they'd have to probably win out to make the playoffs.
- 21:32Speaker 2: So this is a big game for him. I think
- 21:35Speaker 2: they lean on Henry a lot here, So I'm in
- 21:37Speaker 2: on the Henry stuff. Huntley is cheap enough, Jay Flowers
- 21:40Speaker 2: fine with that. I don't love the spot for the Bears.
- 21:45Speaker 2: You know, they're coming off a win, Baltimore is going
- 21:48Speaker 2: to be hungry. Baltimore defense just can't be as bad
- 21:51Speaker 2: as we've seen this season. So the Bear stuff a
- 21:54Speaker 2: little bit tricky for me. I don't I don't really
- 21:57Speaker 2: love much of it. But I mean, my favorite play
- 21:59Speaker 2: by fall far Henry and then I'll have some Huntley
- 22:01Speaker 2: and z Flower combos. But I don't really see myself
- 22:05Speaker 2: playing Bears today.
- 22:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 22:07Speaker 1: One thing I thought about title was this, And you know,
- 22:08Speaker 1: I was back and forth on this. I talked about
- 22:10Speaker 1: it the other day and you know, with Rush and
- 22:13Speaker 1: that was the problem. You know, the thing for Henry,
- 22:16Speaker 1: he needs some sort of disguise in there. The way
- 22:18Speaker 1: it's been right, That's why when I said all the time,
- 22:20Speaker 1: it was like Lamar in there, it's they're literally shaking
- 22:22Speaker 1: the cameraman more than most like the caraman's getting shook
- 22:25Speaker 1: by their moves and who has actually has the ball.
- 22:28Speaker 1: You don't see that a lot. You weren't going to
- 22:29Speaker 1: see that with Cooper Rush. The irony of his last
- 22:31Speaker 1: name being Rush is that it never happens. Now with Huntley,
- 22:35Speaker 1: you could see it a little bit more. You talked
- 22:36Speaker 1: about him. They got him off the they signed with the
- 22:38Speaker 1: practice squad, then they got him onto the active roster,
- 22:41Speaker 1: and now you got him back in the game here.
- 22:42Speaker 1: And the other thing I forgot about too, you know,
- 22:45Speaker 1: follow my own team and just fall in during the
- 22:46Speaker 1: DFS season, it becomes tough is coming off the bye week, right,
- 22:49Speaker 1: That was the whole thing we were hoping for with Lamar.
- 22:51Speaker 1: The total has dropped quite a bit. That's surprise, surprise.
- 22:54Speaker 1: The guy that could have been the MVP last year
- 22:56Speaker 1: is going to move the needle when it comes to
- 22:58Speaker 1: the team totals. So that does have But I still
- 23:01Speaker 1: think the Ravens have a chance here at home. There's
- 23:03Speaker 1: still two and a half point favorites. I like the spot.
- 23:05Speaker 1: And one thing I'll say about Henry his ownership is
- 23:08Speaker 1: coming down. I'm not sure how much it actually will.
- 23:10Speaker 1: We'll see. I think it's significant for sure, I agree
- 23:12Speaker 1: with who, but we'll see. But one thing I want
- 23:14Speaker 1: to do specifically is think back to how Henry has
- 23:17Speaker 1: always won in the past, and the way he wins
- 23:20Speaker 1: as a DFS play is typically when his team is
- 23:22Speaker 1: in the lead, ahead, pounding against that other squad. And
- 23:25Speaker 1: I think this is the spot where I'd like to
- 23:27Speaker 1: pair him with the Ravens d because then it's gonna
- 23:30Speaker 1: that's gonna be the way I see this really happening.
- 23:33Speaker 1: You know, Huntley can throw the ball still some, but
- 23:35Speaker 1: it's like Zay Bateman, how are you really picking the
- 23:37Speaker 1: two different tight ends, all these different factors. Andrews has
- 23:40Speaker 1: had a better target share when we've seen it. But
- 23:43Speaker 1: I can't really say too much to that because there
- 23:45Speaker 1: was a comment I'm not gonna go back and find it,
- 23:47Speaker 1: but in someone saying that, like, but don't you remember
- 23:49Speaker 1: how bad Pitts has been with Cousins, I literally don't care.
- 23:52Speaker 1: Don't you remember how bad my first seven weeks were
- 23:54Speaker 1: of NFL DFS and then boom week Your Week six
- 23:57Speaker 1: was bad and the week seven was great, so things
- 23:59Speaker 1: change die. We only care about today. Huntley and Andrews
- 24:03Speaker 1: might not have that connection today for all we know,
- 24:05Speaker 1: And it could be a Derek Henry or Zay Flowers
- 24:07Speaker 1: Bateman type game. But on the other side, you can
- 24:09Speaker 1: do things against the Ravens. So I'm more curious title
- 24:12Speaker 1: to hear what you think on this Bear's side of
- 24:14Speaker 1: the game. People are talking about Colston Loveland, people talking
- 24:17Speaker 1: about Odoonsa or Man. Ham thinks it's a DJ more
- 24:20Speaker 1: week Swift who's been banged up, and we're gonna wait
- 24:23Speaker 1: on that. But you know, he's one hundred bucks less
- 24:25Speaker 1: than Derek Henry. You can definitely run on the ravens.
- 24:27Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on this Bear's side in this game
- 24:30Speaker 1: as a.
- 24:30Speaker 3: Whole, I don't like it really at all, for a
- 24:33Speaker 3: lot of reasons. You just said you just listened four
- 24:35Speaker 3: guys that Ham thinks it's this guy. I might think
- 24:37Speaker 3: it's this guy who thinks it's like, I mean, it
- 24:40Speaker 3: can't be everyone. If they all do a little bit,
- 24:42Speaker 3: it's not enough to hit their ninety fifth percent outcomes.
- 24:46Speaker 3: So I do not like this game. I also it's
- 24:48Speaker 3: because of Lamar, like I would have liked the Bear
- 24:50Speaker 3: stuff more if there was Lamar, because I would have
- 24:52Speaker 3: trust them to move the football, get chunk plays with Huntley.
- 24:56Speaker 3: It's definitely better than Cooper Rush. But they're gonna try
- 24:59Speaker 3: and hand it to Derrick Henry thirty times. Just bleed
- 25:01Speaker 3: the clock, try and get back to their old defensive football.
- 25:05Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know about this defense at all.
- 25:07Speaker 3: I just really do not like this game. I'm playing
- 25:11Speaker 3: Henry because of the props and just his price take.
- 25:13Speaker 3: Like the props are really good. He's third on the
- 25:15Speaker 3: slate to score at minus two thirty, and he's eighty
- 25:18Speaker 3: nine and a half rushing yards. That's really good at
- 25:21Speaker 3: six K. But I am worried, like I liked him
- 25:23Speaker 3: so much more with Lamar because a lot of his
- 25:26Speaker 3: stuff he needs touchdowns. To get touchdowns, you have to
- 25:29Speaker 3: drive the football. You gotta be successful on offense. I
- 25:32Speaker 3: don't know if the Ravens will be. I think they
- 25:35Speaker 3: can move it a little bit. I think it's a
- 25:36Speaker 3: lot of Derrick Henry for five, Derrick Henry for four,
- 25:39Speaker 3: third and shorts pick him up, bleed the clock. If
- 25:42Speaker 3: that's the case, Caleb and the Bears are off the field,
- 25:45Speaker 3: they don't really score as much. There's too many guys
- 25:47Speaker 3: over there. And yeah, I mean we love Zay Flowers
- 25:50Speaker 3: on Friday hoop, and I assuming Lamar would be playing,
- 25:53Speaker 3: it's a completely different ballgame now with Huntley, So I
- 25:57Speaker 3: don't mind your Ravens call. With the Derrick Henry. That's
- 26:00Speaker 3: kind of all I like in this game, though not
- 26:02Speaker 3: nearly one of my favorites.
- 26:03Speaker 1: The props are interesting. What do you say as any
- 26:05Speaker 1: time was again.
- 26:06Speaker 3: I just minus two JT's minus four twenty five. Isn't
- 26:11Speaker 3: that insane?
- 26:12Speaker 1: That's natz ya. I did see that. That's pretty crazy.
- 26:14Speaker 1: But the fact that even Henry is still sitting at
- 26:16Speaker 1: almost eighty nine or eight or almost ninety yards really
- 26:18Speaker 1: good on the ground. It is a little bit interesting.
- 26:21Speaker 1: So something to think about there. Certainly, obviously you can
- 26:23Speaker 1: run on these bears. They are coming off a bye.
- 26:26Speaker 1: They got to get shit together. But like I always say,
- 26:28Speaker 1: like the someone said it yesterday, I was like, oh,
- 26:30Speaker 1: and don't forget it's a must win for the Ravens.
- 26:31Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, those first six seven games. Who gives
- 26:34Speaker 1: a shit, right, It's like every game is a must
- 26:36Speaker 1: win in the NFL, especially the way their division is
- 26:38Speaker 1: set up, it's still an opportunity. I know, title you
- 26:40Speaker 1: keep talking about it and I'll get hit with the
- 26:42Speaker 1: Homer tags, but it's I really want to Lamar back
- 26:45Speaker 1: this week because I think if they go on a run.
- 26:47Speaker 1: The best case scenario is obviously if this happens for
- 26:49Speaker 1: me as a fan, but just in general, they get
- 26:51Speaker 1: on a run, they get hot enough to get there
- 26:53Speaker 1: and sneak in win the division or even get the
- 26:55Speaker 1: wild whatever it ends up being. You don't want to
- 26:57Speaker 1: see them healthy in the playoffs.
- 26:58Speaker 3: No one wants exactly the figure it out.
- 27:01Speaker 1: That's that's a tricky spot. Also what's interesting is their
- 27:04Speaker 1: future odds, which also are like just as bad as
- 27:06Speaker 1: these touchdown odds hooped that we make fun of. But
- 27:09Speaker 1: I went to look the other day to see, like, ah,
- 27:10Speaker 1: what would be a you know, lifetime epic call on
- 27:13Speaker 1: the Ravens come back to win the super Bowl this season?
- 27:15Speaker 1: Because nothing would put Lamar more on the map than
- 27:17Speaker 1: being made fun of forever for not winning super Bowls
- 27:20Speaker 1: or even playoff games barely, but then battling all the
- 27:23Speaker 1: way back from this to win a super Bowl. That
- 27:25Speaker 1: would be epic. Oh yeah, it's like twenty to one.
- 27:28Speaker 1: That's insane.
- 27:28Speaker 2: As soon as you start looking at those numbers, you
- 27:30Speaker 2: realize why the sports books do so well that the
- 27:33Speaker 2: time guys just about anything you look at on there,
- 27:36Speaker 2: but that is the that is so bad, so bad.
- 27:41Speaker 1: It's like that is epic. But you know, there's like
- 27:43Speaker 1: people in Baltimore that are actually super fans and thinking
- 27:46Speaker 1: like I was thinking for just.
- 27:47Speaker 2: A moment, I they know it's funny you said that,
- 27:49Speaker 2: because you know, we're not huge into the sports budding stuff.
- 27:51Speaker 2: We'll throw our random picks out there and whatnot. But
- 27:53Speaker 2: I actually looked at that earlier in the week. I
- 27:56Speaker 2: was like, okay, if even when Lamar was slated to
- 27:59Speaker 2: come back, like they win today, they go on a
- 28:01Speaker 2: nice run here, they have an easy schedule. It's like,
- 28:04Speaker 2: it's not even worth my time to place that that, Like,
- 28:06Speaker 2: that's not exciting.
- 28:06Speaker 1: How many people look at it and like us and
- 28:09Speaker 1: look at it and laugh versus how many people are
- 28:11Speaker 1: like a hundred bucks banging it anyway. They just print
- 28:15Speaker 1: on that type of stuff. Man, it's crazy.
- 28:17Speaker 3: All right on, did either of you two see this?
- 28:20Speaker 3: I know you're watching some uh some UFC very scary. Oh,
- 28:24Speaker 3: that was gosh.
- 28:26Speaker 2: That was just bye bye and one of the legs started.
- 28:30Speaker 1: Like you gotta worry about like the temple on that shot,
- 28:32Speaker 1: it's like he was down for everyone, even the discord
- 28:34Speaker 1: and I went and watched it was like, oh, man,
- 28:36Speaker 1: like that guy's still out, how.
- 28:38Speaker 2: He Yeah, that was scary for sure. That was very scary.
- 28:42Speaker 3: Body body, body go high. I mean that was that
- 28:45Speaker 3: was nice.
- 28:46Speaker 1: It's very slick for when that's your job and your craft,
- 28:49Speaker 1: very very nice connection. You can't you're not trying to
- 28:51Speaker 1: kill a guy, but that was you know, just the
- 28:53Speaker 1: way it hit and where it hit that that was
- 28:54Speaker 1: definitely scary for a minute.
- 28:56Speaker 2: Just real quick because you opened up the UFC gates
- 29:00Speaker 2: want to get titles to take on this really fast.
- 29:02Speaker 2: But dude, what in the world the worst performance of
- 29:05Speaker 2: the slate? I mean that Almeida, dude, what in the
- 29:07Speaker 2: world are you thinking? Like that's like you should just
- 29:10Speaker 2: be done, like you should just be done fighting at
- 29:12Speaker 2: that point.
- 29:13Speaker 3: He damn here did that against Derek Lewis too. All
- 29:16Speaker 3: twenty five minutes he was on top and mountain.
- 29:18Speaker 2: What's the game plan? Though?
- 29:20Speaker 3: Why is he not dropping out?
- 29:21Speaker 2: Why is he not dropping elbow.
- 29:23Speaker 3: He doesn't want to lose control. He's literally that scared
- 29:25Speaker 3: that like that's all he has.
- 29:27Speaker 2: Man, they got really bad.
- 29:29Speaker 3: I'm glad the judges did it. I'm glad.
- 29:31Speaker 2: That's why I said, you have to do that. If
- 29:32Speaker 2: you're a UFC, you have to punish that, because that's
- 29:35Speaker 2: not that's not what it's all about. The MMA. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 29:41Speaker 2: I'm glad that.
- 29:42Speaker 1: Well, we'll keep it moving all. I'll stay with you, Hoop.
- 29:44Speaker 1: I'll go to bills at the Panthers. This is another
- 29:47Speaker 1: one I mentioned earlier, waiting on you're waiting on another
- 29:50Speaker 1: Dalton where you know some of us are waiting on
- 29:51Speaker 1: this Dalton. I'm hoping he'll play. I will say this
- 29:54Speaker 1: as I kicked it to you. I saw a little
- 29:57Speaker 1: beat writer tidbit before we hopped on on Dalton. Kinkaid
- 30:00Speaker 1: said he was out of the red jersey. He was
- 30:01Speaker 1: in the mix. We didn't get any video on him,
- 30:03Speaker 1: they said, but definitely looked a lot better. They're also
- 30:06Speaker 1: coming off of a bye. Have to remember this, and
- 30:08Speaker 1: I know they're going into face off against the Panthers,
- 30:10Speaker 1: but on a slate you said it, Hoop with bad quarterbacks.
- 30:13Speaker 1: There's one who's not a bad quarterback, and that is
- 30:16Speaker 1: Josh Allen. So what's your thoughts on the bills here
- 30:18Speaker 1: and then anybody on the Panthers side with the red rocket.
- 30:21Speaker 3: That you like.
- 30:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, not gonna be anything crazy for me
- 30:24Speaker 2: in this game. Like, I do think Josh Allen's ownership
- 30:26Speaker 2: probably comes back even more than what people are thinking.
- 30:29Speaker 2: You start building, It's like there's so many cheap quarterbacks,
- 30:31Speaker 2: you have the expensive running backs. I think people will
- 30:35Speaker 2: leave Allen out of a lot of stuff just to
- 30:37Speaker 2: get those expensive running backs in there, get more Jamar Chase.
- 30:41Speaker 2: So I do think Allen comes back a little bit.
- 30:43Speaker 2: I want some of him. I want some of James
- 30:45Speaker 2: Cook and nothing else really in this game. I mean,
- 30:49Speaker 2: I'm fine with some Coleman, some Shakir. If Kinkaid is in, fine,
- 30:53Speaker 2: if Kinkaid's out, I mean another cheap tight end adult Knox.
- 30:57Speaker 2: I'd be totally fine playing Knox.
- 30:58Speaker 1: At even his name is now.
- 31:02Speaker 2: Yeah, same difference, I.
- 31:05Speaker 3: Don't know, if I don't know, if you want to
- 31:06Speaker 3: click that name. They got Hauls in there, too, Yeah.
- 31:10Speaker 2: I mean i'd be I'd be fine with it. I
- 31:12Speaker 2: mean I don't know. I mean just a little bit
- 31:15Speaker 2: of them. I mean they use them when when Kincaid's out,
- 31:19Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know, just Alan James Cook and
- 31:23Speaker 2: the Panther situation obviously very unfortunate with our guy Rico Dodal,
- 31:28Speaker 2: You're not getting as much work. And it's just so
- 31:31Speaker 2: crazy these teams, and we talk about all the time
- 31:33Speaker 2: the coaching decisions, but like, man, how do you not
- 31:36Speaker 2: just continue to ride Rico? Like how do you not
- 31:39Speaker 2: continue to do it? And they just are so dumb.
- 31:40Speaker 2: They just want to be the smartest, smartest guys in
- 31:43Speaker 2: the room, and they're at this point, it's safe to
- 31:46Speaker 2: say a majority of the NFL coaches are just morons
- 31:49Speaker 2: and lack basic, basic common sense. So but in regards
- 31:54Speaker 2: to this game, yeah, Alan Cook and then maybe some
- 31:57Speaker 2: of these pass catchers, but not super exciting stuff.
- 32:00Speaker 1: Can't spell Rico Dawdle without ride. But the coaches don't
- 32:03Speaker 1: know that, so instead they run out Chewba Hubbard for
- 32:05Speaker 1: one point eight yards per carry. They'd be like, oh,
- 32:07Speaker 1: let me figure this out. Now they're gonna bring Rico
- 32:09Speaker 1: and it's like thirteen yard blast, nine yard first down, etc.
- 32:12Speaker 1: You just can't you can't do it. We talked about
- 32:15Speaker 1: it last week. I think there is something to be
- 32:17Speaker 1: said for this. It's not even really a narrative as
- 32:19Speaker 1: much as like when they pay a guy, there is
- 32:21Speaker 1: like that feeling of like we gotta get our money's
- 32:23Speaker 1: worth versus. It's funny because with coaches and with quarterbacks,
- 32:27Speaker 1: it's like, sit your ass on the bench for a quarterback.
- 32:29Speaker 1: For a coach, take a hike, hit the streets, pal,
- 32:32Speaker 1: we'll get you that twenty mil later, but you're done,
- 32:34Speaker 1: get off our bench. But when it comes to a
- 32:36Speaker 1: running back or why, it's usually oh, I gotta work
- 32:38Speaker 1: him in there, especially when you get some of these
- 32:40Speaker 1: billionaire owners like Jerry Jones with Dallas. It's always a
- 32:43Speaker 1: proving point with Zeke and things like that that we
- 32:45Speaker 1: saw for years back in the day. So I don't know,
- 32:48Speaker 1: we'll see title. I'll go to you the you know.
- 32:50Speaker 1: The Josh Allen stuff is always tricky. It's a sort
- 32:53Speaker 1: of like a Mahomes situation. Who do you pair him with?
- 32:55Speaker 1: I think the King Kid stuff, if he plays, is
- 32:57Speaker 1: most interesting because you have to play a tight end anyway.
- 33:00Speaker 1: But just noting it, trying to pick between Coleman, Shakiir, etc.
- 33:03Speaker 1: Makes it tough. And then on the other side we
- 33:05Speaker 1: got big tent. Do you like, here's my take and
- 33:08Speaker 1: we can bring that up in a second. But just
- 33:09Speaker 1: to know, we're gonna get to Joe Flacco in the
- 33:12Speaker 1: next game and people make fun of him about his
- 33:14Speaker 1: you know, elite and all this. I'll say it Hoop
- 33:16Speaker 1: talked about on the Cash Show the other day. The
- 33:18Speaker 1: thing that's elite about him is his brain. Let's not
- 33:21Speaker 1: try and figure it out. Let's just go to the
- 33:23Speaker 1: guy Jamar Chase, who's the best receiver a million times
- 33:26Speaker 1: and see how that works out. Like if only everybody
- 33:28Speaker 1: else thought like this, do you think titled there's a
- 33:31Speaker 1: spot today where we see Andy Dalton just drop back
- 33:34Speaker 1: and just throw it a bunch of times to these guys,
- 33:36Speaker 1: and it's most likely gonna be tet Maybe it's a
- 33:40Speaker 1: tet legette back and forth we get those two guys going,
- 33:43Speaker 1: But just in general, I think it could be a
- 33:44Speaker 1: spot where he just says, forget it, I'm just gonna
- 33:46Speaker 1: throw these guys and let them drag me along and
- 33:48Speaker 1: hope for the best. Any thoughts on that. In this
- 33:50Speaker 1: game they do have almost a twenty point team total,
- 33:53Speaker 1: which for the Panthers is pretty up there. Usually, you know,
- 33:55Speaker 1: you don't see that too often. I guess some of
- 33:57Speaker 1: it's boosted by the running game lately though, Go ahead.
- 33:59Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I absolutely do. I mean, these veteran quarterbacks
- 34:02Speaker 3: have just they've seen so many defenses when they line up.
- 34:05Speaker 3: If like Joe Flacco is listening is after the game
- 34:08Speaker 3: on Thursday with these guys, like when he hit Yoshi
- 34:10Speaker 3: vas in the forty yard seam ro oute, like he
- 34:13Speaker 3: talked about it. He knew what the safety was doing
- 34:15Speaker 3: prior he had to look him off left that they
- 34:17Speaker 3: were bracketing and double it. Like they're just so smart
- 34:20Speaker 3: where they know where they're going with the ball pre
- 34:22Speaker 3: flop pretty much pre snap, and that's a big thing.
- 34:25Speaker 3: Then you don't take sacks some of these younger guys.
- 34:27Speaker 3: If their first read's not there, the whole play is
- 34:29Speaker 3: blown up. So I do think your best receivers tet.
- 34:32Speaker 3: I mean, the get's been pretty good recently too. I'm
- 34:34Speaker 3: not saying play them in DFS, but you have a
- 34:37Speaker 3: running game. Like at least Rico we're not playing him
- 34:39Speaker 3: in DFS. At least he out touched Cuba and it's
- 34:42Speaker 3: clear as day. I was screaming at my TV, like
- 34:44Speaker 3: you one yard, one yard, bringing the good guy thirteen twelve,
- 34:48Speaker 3: Like I think the Panthers moved the ball today. Haven't
- 34:50Speaker 3: been impressed with the Bills defense. You can't play the
- 34:53Speaker 3: running game. But it's I mean, Tet looks. He looks
- 34:56Speaker 3: really good to me. I've kept playing him, but I
- 34:58Speaker 3: think it's a Dalton's an upgrade from young in terms
- 35:01Speaker 3: of just getting him the rock. He's super low owned.
- 35:04Speaker 3: This Josh stuff is really really tilting me. I've tried
- 35:07Speaker 3: to build so many teams like single entry stuff because
- 35:10Speaker 3: it's nine hundred more than herts. He's in a tier
- 35:11Speaker 3: of his own. People do like going down at quarterback.
- 35:15Speaker 3: So you flip the whole build and it reminds me
- 35:17Speaker 3: of last year when he went huh but you say, oh,
- 35:22Speaker 3: it reminds me of last year when he was playing
- 35:24Speaker 3: the Lions at like five percent ownership and just put
- 35:27Speaker 3: up what forty two or a score you absolutely needed?
- 35:31Speaker 3: Like just who do you pair him with? Is that
- 35:33Speaker 3: Coleman is a Shakir, is a Kincaid. Something's telling me,
- 35:36Speaker 3: and this is no data props nothing to back it
- 35:39Speaker 3: up that it's Coleman, or at least I would want
- 35:42Speaker 3: Coleman because it feels like if someone's gonna get me
- 35:44Speaker 3: twenty five, I think it's him. Like all Shakiirs routes
- 35:47Speaker 3: is eight outs, so low. Coleman's the big body. He
- 35:51Speaker 3: likes him in the red zone. If Josh completely goes off,
- 35:54Speaker 3: I think it's him. But man, it's expensive to do.
- 35:57Speaker 3: Then you run it back with Ted. It's kind of expensive.
- 35:59Speaker 3: You just have no room to miss at all, which
- 36:02Speaker 3: has me coming in lower than I want. But I
- 36:04Speaker 3: was hoping one of you two could push me a
- 36:06Speaker 3: little more on Josh stuff.
- 36:08Speaker 1: I'm gonna try because I think it's important to remember
- 36:10Speaker 1: what I said earlier. Like again, it's it can fail easily,
- 36:12Speaker 1: but it's also this is such a bad quarterback. Say
- 36:14Speaker 1: when we're talking up Spencer Rattler, Joe Flacco, some of
- 36:16Speaker 1: these other names, which I'm fine with all these guys,
- 36:18Speaker 1: by the way, I'm just noting it. It's you're just
- 36:21Speaker 1: it's all a product of what you're doing. Like everyone
- 36:23Speaker 1: should know this and see it. If you don't, this
- 36:25Speaker 1: is it when you're going Flaco with these guys with
- 36:27Speaker 1: that it's to make Bijon or Taylor or something. You're
- 36:30Speaker 1: just making the whole puzzle go together and it works.
- 36:33Speaker 1: It makes sense. I get it. But that's the whole thing.
- 36:35Speaker 1: If I'm going like I love in this spot. I
- 36:37Speaker 1: have a lineup that's I put it in the Megamillie actually,
- 36:40Speaker 1: and it's currently I'll just give the three pieces, but
- 36:43Speaker 1: it's Alan kincaid and McMillan, and that's how I'm doing it.
- 36:47Speaker 1: But then I'm filling it with like explosion options, like
- 36:50Speaker 1: I'm not just going to the immediate chuck. I know
- 36:52Speaker 1: it's already different enough, but but what I want is
- 36:54Speaker 1: if Josh Allen breaks it with thirty or forty, and
- 36:57Speaker 1: then it's these running backs that I have are not
- 36:59Speaker 1: who you think they are, and they can get twenty
- 37:01Speaker 1: plus each easily. They can get thirty. Actually, if I
- 37:04Speaker 1: said the name's not going to but just noting it,
- 37:06Speaker 1: like I'm looking for like a ceiling lineup so that
- 37:09Speaker 1: it's a it's a bed on ceilings and chalk failing.
- 37:12Speaker 1: But I'm still covering the angles. You'd say like, oh,
- 37:15Speaker 1: but do you have this guy? Do you have this covered?
- 37:17Speaker 1: Like I got all the angles covered in it, but
- 37:19Speaker 1: it's all ceiling options and I'm hoping that I hit
- 37:22Speaker 1: five ceilings and some good scores and that if some
- 37:25Speaker 1: of the chalk busts in those spots that I'm covering,
- 37:28Speaker 1: that's more than enough to do it. So I'm again
- 37:30Speaker 1: that lineup. I'm playing more for it being a lower
- 37:33Speaker 1: scoring slate. I'm hoping for some of the chalk to bust,
- 37:36Speaker 1: and that's how I would do it. So I think
- 37:37Speaker 1: title it's got to be pretty particular. I did that
- 37:39Speaker 1: one based off of a handbuild using the stone, but
- 37:42Speaker 1: I think it's more you know, looking for you know,
- 37:45Speaker 1: our classic you and I always had. If this then
- 37:46Speaker 1: that that's that's the exact thing. If this breaks the slate,
- 37:50Speaker 1: anyone who has it probably just piles the rest of
- 37:52Speaker 1: the chalk in and that could be more than enough
- 37:54Speaker 1: in work. I'm trying to not have to worry about that,
- 37:56Speaker 1: and I'm not going too far off the beaten path.
- 37:58Speaker 1: I'm in the right places, just on different guys. I
- 38:01Speaker 1: should say, I don't know if they're the right places yet.
- 38:03Speaker 1: I'm in the same places as everybody else. I'm just
- 38:05Speaker 1: doing it with different guys, and that's how I'm thinking
- 38:07Speaker 1: about this right now, so I think it's interesting.
- 38:11Speaker 3: I also just don't hate James cook by himself. I like,
- 38:13Speaker 3: if you want to do that, they're still implied for
- 38:15Speaker 3: twenty eight points. Carolina is tough against the run, but
- 38:18Speaker 3: I mean a loaded running back spot. Yes, he's kind
- 38:21Speaker 3: of forgotten, so he's favorite to score, right. I don't
- 38:24Speaker 3: hate it.
- 38:24Speaker 1: I'm given no more. But I will say in this one,
- 38:26Speaker 1: I got JK. Dobbins as a prime example. He's got
- 38:30Speaker 1: a fifty one point total. No one's talking about it.
- 38:31Speaker 1: They can spread it out a ton. It's hard to
- 38:33Speaker 1: figure out those guys. That's like the one most random play.
- 38:36Speaker 1: The rest are all really good plays in really good spots.
- 38:38Speaker 1: And that's not one of the running backs that can
- 38:40Speaker 1: hit thirty. So just tells you a few more pieces
- 38:42Speaker 1: about it, but just saying it's more about it's not
- 38:45Speaker 1: about that lineup. It's about explaining that on this slate.
- 38:48Speaker 1: I'm very comfortable with being uncomfortable looking for ceilings in
- 38:52Speaker 1: these spots. I'm trying to win it all and it's
- 38:54Speaker 1: so top heavy in these tournaments. People are playing one
- 38:57Speaker 1: to fifty, well, some are at anymore. Someone broken week
- 38:59Speaker 1: two three, and they don't play anymore. But that's another story.
- 39:02Speaker 1: So jets at the Bengals. I'll go to you, Hoop.
- 39:06Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. I mentioned Jamar Chase though you said this
- 39:09Speaker 1: also on the Cash Game Show, which I know a
- 39:11Speaker 1: ton of people are tuning into, but I think it's
- 39:13Speaker 1: a great way if people don't know, just to get
- 39:15Speaker 1: a good idea of the slate, the overview of what's
- 39:17Speaker 1: going to be the chalk, and then how you can
- 39:18Speaker 1: get different with it. And I loved your saying on that.
- 39:21Speaker 1: You said, look, everyone will say that the pricing's tighter
- 39:24Speaker 1: because of these running back prices, but what really happened
- 39:27Speaker 1: is the running back prices became correct. What they did
- 39:30Speaker 1: not correct is the wide receiver prices and jim Ar
- 39:34Speaker 1: Chase is way hunder price. We haven't seen this since
- 39:38Speaker 1: seven K or seventy three hundred dollars Puka that week,
- 39:42Speaker 1: where it was like, okay, that's just insane. This is
- 39:44Speaker 1: basically the same thing so far, but we'll see how
- 39:46Speaker 1: it works out. Go ahead, Hoop.
- 39:48Speaker 2: I appreciate the multiple call outs for the Cash Show.
- 39:52Speaker 2: It means a lot to me, entitle, so thank you
- 39:54Speaker 2: for that. In regards to this game. Yeah, I mean
- 39:58Speaker 2: it's a miss price and what was it twenty three targets?
- 40:01Speaker 2: I think last week? I mean twenty three And we
- 40:03Speaker 2: talked about it a lot on The Cash Show, and
- 40:05Speaker 2: a lot of people have obviously talked about it, not
- 40:07Speaker 2: just us. It's like, Okay, you have Jamar Chase. You
- 40:10Speaker 2: come into the offense and you just throw the ball
- 40:12Speaker 2: to Jamar Chase, and really, really good things happen when
- 40:16Speaker 2: you just continue to pepper the best wide receiver in
- 40:19Speaker 2: the in the NFL. You go out and they want
- 40:23Speaker 2: an upset, and now they're in a really good spot
- 40:25Speaker 2: moving forward because Flacco knows how to get the ball
- 40:29Speaker 2: to the good players on the team. And that talk
- 40:32Speaker 2: that I believe title that you had about the postgame
- 40:35Speaker 2: thing just he's experienced and he's going to get rid
- 40:39Speaker 2: of the ball quick and he's going to get it
- 40:40Speaker 2: to Jamar Chase. He's going to get it to t Higgins,
- 40:42Speaker 2: who I think it's a really really good play today,
- 40:44Speaker 2: which we'll get to and it's just better for the offense.
- 40:47Speaker 2: And they're projected now to score twenty five points. If
- 40:49Speaker 2: the other dudes in there, they're projected to score probably
- 40:53Speaker 2: twenty or eighteen, and they might be an underdog to
- 40:56Speaker 2: the freaking Jets today, which would be wild. So you know,
- 41:00Speaker 2: Flapo in there just makes this team relevant again and productive,
- 41:05Speaker 2: and for fantasy purposes, it's good on a slate where
- 41:08Speaker 2: we just don't have a lot of standout quarterback plays.
- 41:11Speaker 2: I think he's totally fine. I mean, Jamar Chase Higgins,
- 41:15Speaker 2: you got a running back that can catch passes as well.
- 41:18Speaker 2: So from a fantasy perspective, it's a really good spot
- 41:21Speaker 2: I think for the Bengals, and you know everyone's gonna
- 41:23Speaker 2: play Jamar Chase totally get that, like he's way too cheap,
- 41:27Speaker 2: but t Higgins not much ownership. It could be, it
- 41:30Speaker 2: could go to and now I do think I do
- 41:32Speaker 2: think it probably continues to go to Jamar Chase, but
- 41:35Speaker 2: man like Higgins can get in there too, and then
- 41:38Speaker 2: Chase Brown can catch passes. And I just got to
- 41:40Speaker 2: give a shout out to our guy because he's nailed these.
- 41:42Speaker 2: Our guy Land has been with us forever and he
- 41:44Speaker 2: keeps nailing these defensive calls and he's on the Bengals
- 41:47Speaker 2: D today. I think it's a great, great call, great play.
- 41:50Speaker 2: I'm gonna bump my Bengals defense exposure after seeing his
- 41:54Speaker 2: tweet this morning. So I'm in on, definitely in on
- 41:56Speaker 2: the Bengals d I mean, look at this Jets offense.
- 41:59Speaker 2: I mean, so now they all week like these co
- 42:01Speaker 2: oh god, these coaches are so painful. The guy the Lions,
- 42:05Speaker 2: what's his name, Aaron Glenn right, the old Yeah, like
- 42:08Speaker 2: trying to play koy with the reporters about who the
- 42:11Speaker 2: starting quarterback is gonna be and make it seem like
- 42:14Speaker 2: they're hiding what they're gonna do. Your team fucking sucks, man,
- 42:17Speaker 2: No one gives a shit what you're gonna do. You're
- 42:19Speaker 2: gonna lose you like you're you're just the team is
- 42:22Speaker 2: just terrible. Like you don't play those games when you
- 42:24Speaker 2: have a shitty team. Like if you have a good team,
- 42:26Speaker 2: then you play those games. Oh, I don't know who's
- 42:28Speaker 2: starting this week, blab you're owing whatever, Like you don't
- 42:31Speaker 2: get to play the games, Like we're looking for a
- 42:33Speaker 2: competitive advantage by not naming our starter. You lose that
- 42:36Speaker 2: ability when your team is super shitty. So he played
- 42:40Speaker 2: the game all week. Now it's field starting doesn't matter
- 42:42Speaker 2: at all. And that's the funny part about all this
- 42:44Speaker 2: stuff with like the starting quarterbacks when like the starter
- 42:49Speaker 2: shifts and then the betting line doesn't move at all.
- 42:52Speaker 2: So like everyone thought it was gonna be tire out
- 42:53Speaker 2: all week. They were six point underdogs. They named Justin
- 42:56Speaker 2: Fields the quarterback. They're six point underdogs. So like you're
- 42:59Speaker 2: not doing anything, man, Like whatever you're trying to do
- 43:02Speaker 2: didn't work. Your team sucks, and it's a bad spot
- 43:05Speaker 2: for the Jets. I mean, no Garrett Wilson either, they're
- 43:09Speaker 2: wide receiver and Josh Reynolds there wide receiver one? Is
- 43:12Speaker 2: is it Alan Wizard? I guess it's gonna.
- 43:14Speaker 1: Be a maybe.
- 43:16Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, Rogers boy, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
- 43:21Speaker 2: You know, Mason Taylor to me is the wide receiver one.
- 43:23Speaker 2: I will have him. We've been on him as a
- 43:25Speaker 2: solid tight ump. I think he's totally fine. Thirty five hundred.
- 43:29Speaker 2: If they have any offensive success, it has to come
- 43:32Speaker 2: through Breeze Hall sixty one hundred. Don't hate that, and
- 43:36Speaker 2: then you know, I don't after shitting on the whole situation,
- 43:39Speaker 2: don't necessarily hate playing field. I mean, he has multiple
- 43:43Speaker 2: touchdown upside on the ground, So I really like the
- 43:46Speaker 2: Bengals spot here though. That's that's the main part for me.
- 43:49Speaker 2: Don't need to have a run back. If you play
- 43:50Speaker 2: the Bengals stuff, this could be a big game for him.
- 43:53Speaker 2: I mean, they looked really good offensively last week. I
- 43:56Speaker 2: could definitely follow it up here and put up a
- 43:57Speaker 2: big boy score. So I'm in on the bank stuff.
- 44:00Speaker 2: And it's nice because it's like, you know, Jamar, Chase Higgins,
- 44:04Speaker 2: and then Chase Brown if you want, then obviously Flacco.
- 44:06Speaker 2: It's condensed still, so like the spot.
- 44:09Speaker 1: Yeah Bengals d Land had mentioned and also talking about
- 44:12Speaker 1: putting it with Chase Brown. It's kind of the flip.
- 44:14Speaker 1: I don't know that we'll see Chase Brown. I think
- 44:15Speaker 1: he'll moon walk back. From an ownership perspective as well.
- 44:18Speaker 1: You know you can afford him fine, But I just
- 44:20Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people end up there. Doesn't
- 44:22Speaker 1: seem to be the way that they're building, but people
- 44:25Speaker 1: are playing the Bengals d and likely for good reason.
- 44:27Speaker 1: The biggest thing on the Jets side title that moves
- 44:29Speaker 1: it for me a little is that set set up
- 44:31Speaker 1: of fields playing like I actually think it's good to
- 44:33Speaker 1: be able to drive Flacco, Chase Higgins, all the stuff,
- 44:37Speaker 1: that we want there. It's a condensed offense, the same
- 44:40Speaker 1: spot that I was at the week that I had
- 44:42Speaker 1: the Stafford set up with Stafford, Puka and Adams didn't
- 44:45Speaker 1: fully work out, but it got there for a lot
- 44:46Speaker 1: and one of our members, Jaywalking, had it for one
- 44:49Speaker 1: hundred k straight. This is the same setup. It's like
- 44:52Speaker 1: Jamar Chase popping off the page. If he has the
- 44:54Speaker 1: actual ceiling game that's needed, it's very likely to come through.
- 44:57Speaker 1: Flacco and Higgins has been getting involved in and also
- 45:01Speaker 1: the nice thing about it being week eight and us
- 45:02Speaker 1: having DVP and knowing the numbers and even with everyone
- 45:05Speaker 1: talks about sas Gardner is also out and they actually
- 45:08Speaker 1: weren't that great even with them. Just a note now
- 45:10Speaker 1: that you can go back and see the numbers. So
- 45:12Speaker 1: I think there's a ton of issues on that side.
- 45:14Speaker 1: I like when you're not on the passing game to
- 45:17Speaker 1: play Chase Brown with the d I also like when
- 45:20Speaker 1: you're not on the full passing game. My guy Alex
- 45:23Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday on Leverage Lane and Hoop betched
- 45:25Speaker 1: it at the top too. Is maybe just T Higgins.
- 45:27Speaker 1: T Higgins is a nice little one off at fifty
- 45:29Speaker 1: six hundred. I think it was ten targets last week.
- 45:31Speaker 1: I mean, Flacco can switch gears and move it around,
- 45:34Speaker 1: but it's likely between those two and fifty six hundred
- 45:37Speaker 1: can really help your lineup versus eighty one hundred if
- 45:39Speaker 1: you want a way to get a little bit different.
- 45:41Speaker 1: I'd feel more comfortable with him as a one off
- 45:43Speaker 1: than you know Jim ar Chase always works, but it's
- 45:46Speaker 1: oftentimes so he's gonna have the actual ceiling game. It's
- 45:48Speaker 1: likely to bring a fifty four hundred dollars quarterback attached
- 45:51Speaker 1: him along, So we'll see how that goes. Anything on
- 45:53Speaker 1: the Jets side, and then you can talk about the
- 45:55Speaker 1: rest of the game. Title, But just curious on the
- 45:56Speaker 1: Bressee Hal Lazard, Mason Taylor, our guy stat mentioned it
- 46:00Speaker 1: could be wide receiver one for them. What do you
- 46:02Speaker 1: think of this Jets side?
- 46:03Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Jets, not only Sauce is out in the secondary,
- 46:06Speaker 3: they're without two other dbs back there, so I mean
- 46:09Speaker 3: they're completely depleted. Yeah. I hate to do it, but
- 46:13Speaker 3: I I like some of these Jets. I'm gonna play fields.
- 46:17Speaker 3: I see a couple of people in Jet like I
- 46:18Speaker 3: have a fields problem. This He's five K with someone
- 46:22Speaker 3: that can be stone dead at halftime like he showed
- 46:24Speaker 3: against the Dolphins and then walk into twenty five twenty
- 46:27Speaker 3: six d K points Because of the script and the
- 46:30Speaker 3: ownership isn't really gonna be there. It's not a name
- 46:32Speaker 3: people want to click with someone with that rushing upside.
- 46:35Speaker 3: It's not like the Bengals defense has been great. Yeah
- 46:38Speaker 3: they I mean, I mean Rogers lit them up. I
- 46:40Speaker 3: guess I was gonna say they looked a little better.
- 46:41Speaker 3: They actually didn't. And when you play field, you can
- 46:44Speaker 3: play him naked. You can play him with Mason Taylor.
- 46:47Speaker 3: I don't know how much I love playing him with Breese.
- 46:49Speaker 3: But in Joe Flacco, Jamar chayes Hagen's stuff, Breeze is
- 46:53Speaker 3: gonna be someone I look to run back. I think
- 46:55Speaker 3: he moon walks back just because I mean, he has
- 46:58Speaker 3: a real price tag and it's the Jet. So I
- 47:00Speaker 3: think people are really hesitant to click out and rightfully
- 47:02Speaker 3: so on these Jets names. And you can go Rashad
- 47:05Speaker 3: White and other stuff. He's still like his receiving rushing
- 47:08Speaker 3: prop is almost at ninety. He's plus one ten to score.
- 47:11Speaker 3: He can catch dump offs. Yeah, Davis has been cutting
- 47:14Speaker 3: into his workload a little bit. I do just because
- 47:17Speaker 3: I like Chase so much. I feel like I want
- 47:19Speaker 3: to try and get someone to push Chase a little bit,
- 47:22Speaker 3: which would either be a tailor of fields on the
- 47:25Speaker 3: ground Breese Hall. So I will be playing some of
- 47:28Speaker 3: these Jets runbacks probably more than the field when I
- 47:31Speaker 3: am playing Chase stuff.
- 47:32Speaker 1: Yeah, one note too, this is the first spot for it.
- 47:35Speaker 1: It will You can tie this in a couple different ways, actually,
- 47:38Speaker 1: so I'll bring them both up. Now. There's a couple
- 47:42Speaker 1: spots on this slate, like a Chase Higgins situation where
- 47:45Speaker 1: it's like you could play Fields Chase Higgins and just
- 47:48Speaker 1: hope that Chase's game is big enough. Isn't the full
- 47:51Speaker 1: way for Flacco and and you don't want to figure
- 47:54Speaker 1: out who fields is, but you're still saying fields will
- 47:56Speaker 1: push this game. It's like a more advanced setup of it.
- 47:59Speaker 1: It's not the four hundred bucks. It's like we know
- 48:01Speaker 1: Fields could rush to in and and get there on
- 48:04Speaker 1: the ground, and then you know Jomar Chase does enough
- 48:07Speaker 1: t Higgins as good. But that's kind of the setup
- 48:08Speaker 1: you could set that up with. You also could do
- 48:10Speaker 1: it if you can't afford Jalen Hurts, who will get
- 48:14Speaker 1: too later. I could see a different way to play,
- 48:17Speaker 1: like Devonte Smith and Goddard is with like a Fields
- 48:20Speaker 1: as well, He's it's just you're it's gonna get again.
- 48:22Speaker 1: Does it make way more sense with Hurts? Yes, and
- 48:25Speaker 1: because if they actually ceiling out, it's gonna help Hurts
- 48:27Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. But if Fields does the same number,
- 48:31Speaker 1: there's not gonna be many lineups with Hurtz, DeVante Smith
- 48:34Speaker 1: and Goddard that can afford the running back boost you
- 48:37Speaker 1: just got or the non two tight end lineup you
- 48:40Speaker 1: just got it. It's a more advanced concept, but it's
- 48:42Speaker 1: a way to do it where you know people don't
- 48:44Speaker 1: always see it. All that doesn't correlate at all. It's
- 48:46Speaker 1: it's about making everything work for the entire slate. So
- 48:49Speaker 1: there's things like that that you can do as well.
- 48:50Speaker 1: I do think this game is at least somewhat interesting
- 48:52Speaker 1: getting the fact that justin Fields could show a ceiling
- 48:55Speaker 1: could push this, and then we would It would make
- 48:57Speaker 1: everything a lot better for a back and forth your
- 49:00Speaker 1: big boy team total though for the Bengals at home,
- 49:02Speaker 1: definitely considering that and keeping that top of mind title.
- 49:05Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay with you. We'll go to this next game.
- 49:07Speaker 1: It is the forty nine Ers at the Texans. There's
- 49:10Speaker 1: some value plays here that we can use to make
- 49:13Speaker 1: things work. I know Hoop is chopping at the bitch,
- 49:15Speaker 1: so I left them hanging on this one because we're
- 49:17Speaker 1: about to talk about Dalton Schultz the super sleeper on
- 49:20Speaker 1: this slate. But we'll get there. Nobody better than Hooper
- 49:23Speaker 1: calling the best chalk of the week Quinn Shawn Judkins.
- 49:27Speaker 1: Last week, by the way, was a nice one, but
- 49:29Speaker 1: that pierces title a little bit. So I'll kick this
- 49:32Speaker 1: one the title first.
- 49:33Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like Schultz is gonna be the highest zone
- 49:36Speaker 3: tight end. I'll let Hoops stroke him. Jalen Nole, I
- 49:39Speaker 3: think he looks good, a very viable three point five
- 49:41Speaker 3: K receiver. They're just so depleted. No Kirk, no Nico.
- 49:46Speaker 3: That's pretty much where I ended on the Texan stuff.
- 49:49Speaker 3: And for the Niners, George Kittle, I mean that price
- 49:52Speaker 3: talk about national tight end a four point five K.
- 49:54Speaker 3: I'll just embrace that. They're still beat up in the
- 49:57Speaker 3: receiving room, so he has upside. And then McCaffrey is
- 50:01Speaker 3: just someone that can't really be played because of his price,
- 50:04Speaker 3: like JT's only five hundred more, Bjon's two under less,
- 50:07Speaker 3: Saquon's fourteen hundred less. It's not a great matchup. I'm
- 50:11Speaker 3: not gonna say I love it, but I mean, anytime
- 50:14Speaker 3: you're talking about a low on Christian McCaffrey, you can't
- 50:17Speaker 3: go wrong. It's more appealing on FanDuel, where JT's ten two,
- 50:21Speaker 3: Jon's ten k and McCaffrey's nine to one. So pricing
- 50:24Speaker 3: on both sites is very different. There you get more
- 50:27Speaker 3: of a discount on FanDuel. Ownership will kind of reflect it,
- 50:30Speaker 3: but I don't even think that much. I still think
- 50:32Speaker 3: people will find the money to go Bijon or JT
- 50:35Speaker 3: on FanDuel and he'll still be low owned with the discount,
- 50:38Speaker 3: So maybe I prefer him a little more over there. However,
- 50:41Speaker 3: then I say it out loud and full point PPR
- 50:44Speaker 3: on DK does fit him well. So don't love this game.
- 50:48Speaker 3: I think I'm mainly coming here for value and it's
- 50:50Speaker 3: Shoulton and Noel.
- 50:52Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing I thought about Hoop was the I
- 50:54Speaker 1: got a couple of outs, I'll kick it to you
- 50:55Speaker 1: because I know there's some stuff here, but the the
- 50:58Speaker 1: Kittle spot at just fourty five hundred. Everyone's talking about
- 51:01Speaker 1: these low prices on certain players, you know. I saw
- 51:04Speaker 1: somebody posted it out there on X. I appreciate them.
- 51:06Speaker 1: I don't have the reference, but it's not my stat
- 51:08Speaker 1: but someone said it's his lowest price on DraftKings since
- 51:11Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, forty five hundred bucks for George Kittles. So
- 51:15Speaker 1: that's that's pretty wild to think about. And then because
- 51:18Speaker 1: he's the opposite side, he's a little bit more than Schultz,
- 51:20Speaker 1: et cetera. You can play both whatever you want to do.
- 51:22Speaker 1: And then the other thing is just thinking about if
- 51:24Speaker 1: you're not playing McCaffrey, you're not playing Kittle. There's already
- 51:27Speaker 1: you know, injuries and things going on on the forty
- 51:28Speaker 1: nine ers side. Could you just play the Texans? D
- 51:31Speaker 1: you do the game log thing with the Kickers. I
- 51:33Speaker 1: love if you look at the game log for the Texans,
- 51:35Speaker 1: it's not bad. It's like double digits every game, ten, eleven, twelve.
- 51:38Speaker 1: It's it's not horrible for three k So what's your
- 51:40Speaker 1: thoughts on this game?
- 51:41Speaker 2: In any of those thoughts, Yeah, I agree with your
- 51:44Speaker 2: points there. I think very solid it is a tough game.
- 51:49Speaker 2: I mean, the total is low, so I definitely don't
- 51:51Speaker 2: hate that call out. I'm looking at forty forty one
- 51:55Speaker 2: the plays fantasy wise or clear like, I think you
- 51:58Speaker 2: have two of the the best values for past catchers
- 52:02Speaker 2: on the slate. Noel who looks solid. I think it
- 52:05Speaker 2: was like seven targets. It was like four catches for
- 52:08Speaker 2: seventy eight yards, and he looked talented, So I like
- 52:11Speaker 2: him on both sides. Forty five hum FanDuel thirty five
- 52:15Speaker 2: on DK. And these players always get held in check.
- 52:17Speaker 2: People always get worried about the ownership, but it's always
- 52:20Speaker 2: held in check for the most part. You know, the
- 52:22Speaker 2: cheap tight ends don't get held in check. And Dalton
- 52:24Speaker 2: Schultz is gonna be very popular, and I like Schultz.
- 52:27Speaker 2: You guys obviously know that you have like what eight
- 52:29Speaker 2: or nine targets last game, But there's other guys too,
- 52:31Speaker 2: And got Goddard now without aj Brown, got Mason Taylor,
- 52:35Speaker 2: who's fine. So I do like Dalton Schultz, but you
- 52:38Speaker 2: know there's other guys that are are fine as well,
- 52:40Speaker 2: So I do think he's a strong play. And then
- 52:43Speaker 2: Christian McCaffery, I think he got a nice little secondary
- 52:45Speaker 2: stack here, like you can play McCaffrey at it has
- 52:49Speaker 2: to get squeezed. I mean, people are gonna prefer Jonathan Taylor,
- 52:52Speaker 2: people are gonna prefer bjon Robinson with AJ Brown out.
- 52:56Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley's ownership has come up a little bit as well.
- 52:59Speaker 2: People are still gonna pay Derrick Henry. People are still
- 53:01Speaker 2: going to play with shot White. I think he's the
- 53:02Speaker 2: one because of the price that gets squeezed a little bit,
- 53:05Speaker 2: and I want to be there. So you got a
- 53:07Speaker 2: nice little secondary stack mixed in here if you want it,
- 53:10Speaker 2: like McCaffrey Noel Schultz, and it's cheap and has leverage
- 53:15Speaker 2: built into it. So I like that. And then Kittle
- 53:17Speaker 2: is fine too to mix in there. You know, we
- 53:20Speaker 2: nailed the bet of the Week last week, and it
- 53:22Speaker 2: was like, really no sweat, I man, I just and
- 53:26Speaker 2: and maybe it's one of those things where you know
- 53:28Speaker 2: it seems too good to be true. But how in
- 53:31Speaker 2: the world are the Texans favored in this game? Like,
- 53:33Speaker 2: how are they favored? That was awful?
- 53:35Speaker 3: That?
- 53:36Speaker 2: Who did they played last week? Can't remember? It was
- 53:38Speaker 2: so bad? Was it? The uh? That was just terrible?
- 53:41Speaker 2: Was on Yeattle. Yeah, I mean they ended up losing
- 53:45Speaker 2: by eight. They should have lost by like twenty. I
- 53:47Speaker 2: know they got to bes touched on at the end.
- 53:49Speaker 1: I like exactly how the game played out. For the record,
- 53:51Speaker 1: it played out perfect.
- 53:52Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it played out perfect for you, absolutely it
- 53:55Speaker 2: played out perfect. But man, like, I just take the
- 53:58Speaker 2: forty nine ers to win. It's like plus one fifteen
- 54:01Speaker 2: or plus one ten, like a if you're betting, like
- 54:04Speaker 2: put that into your portfolio today. Like they are. Forty
- 54:08Speaker 2: nine Ers are a much better team. I don't understand
- 54:11Speaker 2: how the Texans are favored in this game. Just shocked.
- 54:14Speaker 2: They don't have any pieces on offense. Their offensive line
- 54:17Speaker 2: is terrible. Strouds look terrible. Forty nine Ers have looked good.
- 54:20Speaker 2: Maybe it's just one of those spots in the NFL.
- 54:23Speaker 2: It seems too good to be true. Could be the case.
- 54:25Speaker 2: But I'll put my one to zero record on the
- 54:29Speaker 2: line and go with the Niners today. Just the Niners,
- 54:31Speaker 2: de Wland, you don't even need the points, all.
- 54:33Speaker 1: Right, before I go to title on this game, do
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- 55:05Speaker 1: I'll go to you. We've got another spot here for
- 55:08Speaker 1: you to bring up. This is the forty nine ers
- 55:10Speaker 1: at the Texans. One thing I want to say before
- 55:12Speaker 1: I kick it over, what's that.
- 55:15Speaker 3: New England Cleveland? Are we going back to that game?
- 55:17Speaker 1: I want to say one more thing to you on
- 55:18Speaker 1: this one, because is there anybody that you can see
- 55:21Speaker 1: on this slate that's sixty eight hundred dollars that's gonna
- 55:24Speaker 1: get seventeen targets today?
- 55:28Speaker 3: Probably not left to go?
- 55:29Speaker 1: Look, Probably not is the answer. And I will say
- 55:33Speaker 1: that's one of the Buka say maybe Aguca. Yeah, you're right,
- 55:36Speaker 1: he's he's seven k ors. I'm gonna get that. But
- 55:38Speaker 1: just a note the chat might have hit it once
- 55:41Speaker 1: or somebody brought it up. I do want to bring
- 55:42Speaker 1: this up though. I think one of the most interesting
- 55:45Speaker 1: ways to play Schultz is just to play Noel with
- 55:48Speaker 1: him and just play them both together as the combo pack.
- 55:50Speaker 1: It's sixty eight hundred dollars for the two of them.
- 55:52Speaker 1: It fills it up. We have a good stack ranking
- 55:54Speaker 1: on the Texans. I know that O line and the
- 55:57Speaker 1: setup of CJ. Stroud and everything scares everybody, and I
- 55:59Speaker 1: get but at the end of the day, that is
- 56:01Speaker 1: a pretty good way to do it. And I think
- 56:03Speaker 1: hoops right as much as Noel is going to be
- 56:05Speaker 1: a popular value play, it's my analogy I always give
- 56:09Speaker 1: title of like before before we go to the next game.
- 56:10Speaker 1: But it's the same analogy we always get of. If
- 56:13Speaker 1: there's one hundred people in a room and you're like, damn,
- 56:15Speaker 1: I need to get rid of some of these people, Well,
- 56:17Speaker 1: it's nice to get rid of ninety of them. And
- 56:19Speaker 1: if Noel comes in at like ten percent in the
- 56:21Speaker 1: Millimaker or something like that, that's ninety out of every
- 56:24Speaker 1: hundred lineups that you just kicked out of the room.
- 56:26Speaker 1: If that ends up working out, So it's definitely a
- 56:27Speaker 1: way that you can get different. Nothing says that you
- 56:31Speaker 1: that you need to have Stroud with them in that
- 56:33Speaker 1: spot because it's just sixty eight hundred bucks for two
- 56:35Speaker 1: guys and they could pile up, you know whatever between them.
- 56:38Speaker 1: But I at least think that's somewhat interesting. I was
- 56:40Speaker 1: just going to kick that to you before you take
- 56:41Speaker 1: us into the next game.
- 56:42Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll definitely find playing both together. The problem is,
- 56:46Speaker 3: I just don't think I'm playing Stroud. I mean, there's
- 56:49Speaker 3: so many good cheap quarterbacks that I think you can
- 56:51Speaker 3: get there today. I just think you really need the
- 56:55Speaker 3: nut script and that requires no Woody Marks or Nick Chubb,
- 56:58Speaker 3: the probably the over to hit. But yeah, I'm totally
- 57:00Speaker 3: good playing them both together. Like the A dots on
- 57:03Speaker 3: these guys aren't really long. I mean Cej can dump
- 57:05Speaker 3: it the shoals for six yards if he has seven
- 57:08Speaker 3: or eight catches. That's how you rack it up that way.
- 57:10Speaker 3: So yeah, I like the.
- 57:11Speaker 1: Combo pet Okay, I'm with you on it. Then I
- 57:13Speaker 1: wanted to make sure I just wasn't crazy, But I
- 57:15Speaker 1: think it is a setup of if you're doing that,
- 57:17Speaker 1: that's another thing, Like I said that you can just
- 57:19Speaker 1: make a ton of things work and get different in
- 57:21Speaker 1: all those other spots, or still find the ceiling elsewhere.
- 57:24Speaker 1: But take that from those guys where at least you
- 57:26Speaker 1: feel a little bit more comfortable comfortable about it based
- 57:28Speaker 1: on the injury the injuries that they have.
- 57:30Speaker 3: Yeah, there are a lot of injuries on the Niners
- 57:32Speaker 3: defense too. To help those skill position players one hundred percent.
- 57:35Speaker 1: I'll stick with you, tight, I'll let you take over
- 57:37Speaker 1: Browns at the Patriots all season long, people have kind
- 57:40Speaker 1: of wanted Drake May. I still see Digs. This is
- 57:44Speaker 1: the name that just always pops in projections, but everyone's
- 57:46Speaker 1: like dying to unclick it or move it out of
- 57:48Speaker 1: their shit, Like, how am I getting this much Digs?
- 57:50Speaker 1: Or what's going on here? I don't want this? What's
- 57:52Speaker 1: your thoughts this week on the Patriots at home versus
- 57:55Speaker 1: the Browns?
- 57:56Speaker 3: The problem with the Patriots is, I mean said of
- 57:58Speaker 3: last week, it's men. Drake May is getting that Mahomes
- 58:01Speaker 3: territory of just who are you playing with? I guess
- 58:04Speaker 3: you should just playing with Booty every week. He seems
- 58:06Speaker 3: to be the guy, but the second you click him,
- 58:08Speaker 3: it'll be a Digs or a Hunter Henry or Pop
- 58:11Speaker 3: Douglas or Ramandre Stevenson. Like it's a good football team
- 58:15Speaker 3: because they can spread it out and beat you in
- 58:17Speaker 3: a lot of different ways. And Drake May's legs, I
- 58:19Speaker 3: just think a I don't love picking on the Browns.
- 58:22Speaker 3: Their front seven is really good. They can slow games down.
- 58:26Speaker 3: The slate I think has enough cheap quarterbacks and more
- 58:28Speaker 3: concentrated spots, Like I'm just not really getting this game
- 58:31Speaker 3: much and I feel fine with it. But Drake May
- 58:33Speaker 3: can break any slay. He's a pretty good NFL quarterback.
- 58:37Speaker 3: Judy Digs I think I'm fine with his one offs.
- 58:40Speaker 3: But the defenses on both sides, Pats and Brown's I
- 58:44Speaker 3: think are two ways. My favorite two ways ago about
- 58:48Speaker 3: twenty five hundred, A good cheap defense if you need
- 58:51Speaker 3: Patriots if you're spending up thirty six hundred. I mean
- 58:53Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel, what do they call him?
- 58:55Speaker 2: The computer?
- 58:55Speaker 3: I guess this dude, the computer might be broke, malfunctioned.
- 58:59Speaker 1: Baby, This guy might be crushed after this game. Our
- 59:02Speaker 1: man Tom Brady is great, said Brabel, was a consultant
- 59:05Speaker 1: for the Browns last year, knows the team very well.
- 59:07Speaker 1: New England might skull f Cleveland, so we'll have to
- 59:10Speaker 1: see who. But what's your thoughts on this game? Pats
- 59:13Speaker 1: D definitely makes sense thirty six hundred, I get it,
- 59:15Speaker 1: but there's a lot of options on this lay too cheaper.
- 59:17Speaker 1: And then, like I said, you even have some scenarios
- 59:19Speaker 1: where you've got options that are right underneath them that
- 59:22Speaker 1: still make sense to with the running backs things like that.
- 59:24Speaker 1: So thoughts on the Patriots at home versus the Browns.
- 59:28Speaker 2: They have a tough team for sure for fantasy purposes,
- 59:31Speaker 2: Like Drake May has been great, but the problem is
- 59:34Speaker 2: like who do you pair them with? And when you
- 59:35Speaker 2: think you have it figured out, it's Booty. So maybe
- 59:39Speaker 2: it is Booty. I don't know, but I can't play
- 59:41Speaker 2: I can't play Booty. I'll have some May with Diggs
- 59:45Speaker 2: with Henry not super excited about. It'll just be kind
- 59:50Speaker 2: of part of the portfolio, Remandra Stevenson. If he got
- 59:54Speaker 2: into some teams, I'd be fine with it. They're favored
- 59:57Speaker 2: by seven at home, but this is I mean this
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: game total sitting at forty Patriots twenty three. You know,
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: I want to be more in on make because he
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: looks really, really good and he's had some really good
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: fantasy performances. But like when you start looking at roster construction,
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: it gets difficult. I'm not playing any Browns. I think
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: I have Jerry Judy in there and it would just
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: be like a little bit of him and that's it.
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: But not super excited for this one. I do like
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: your point though, It's like you start building these teams
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: and then Diggs just continues to show up because of
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: the price tag. But man, it's it's tough. Hunter Henry
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: should be low on though. I mean, we got these
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: cheap tight ends and more cheap tight ends, so maybe
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: it's him. Then let me just pull this up real quickly.
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: I'm curious on Hunter Henry's ownership. It has to be
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: low with all these other guys he does have.
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: Now.
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you're playing a bunch of teams, I
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: like some Hunter Henry, that would be the guy I
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: guess if planned me, Yeah.
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: I don't have too much add I love the comment
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: in the chat. If you're a boomer like us, who
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: you got to remember this one? Control all delete Brown's off.
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: This guy Dylan Gabriel. The computer you have, you know,
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: malfunction got to hit control of the delete to get
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: this thing fired back up. We'll see if that works out.
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: But it at least feels right why people are keeping
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: May and those guys in check. Like even the dig stuff.
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: We always have like a little bit of ownership because
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: it's hard to Ownership's hard, especially when it comes to
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: you know how millions and other people are thinking all
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: these combinations that you can do. It's a setup of
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: maybe he gets somebody we know, Booty Henry may lower
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: than we've seen all season. Judy on the other side,
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: like nothing. If if you got here and it ends up
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: being the spot, great, It's a tough one to think about.
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: I like the people.
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: But the Judy Booty combo, oh man, that's a good
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: one in a while. Yeah right, get that booty Judy Booty.
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: Like I like that call. Okay, maybe that could be a.
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: Little second, pa, but the here you go. The Judy
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: Booty combo may work out.
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: This week, may not as well.
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: So the Judy Boody combo may or may not work
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: out this week.
- 1:02:03Speaker 3: I'm gone for a couple of minutes. We got a
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: whole minute talking about these little one liners or whatever.
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: I'm getting a little bit better.
- 1:02:11Speaker 3: I'll join in a couple of months.
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: Dad jokes exactly, he's joining the fans soon. That's the thing.
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: So all right, title, you're back, I'm gonna go to you.
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: You know, this is definitely some cash game landscape things
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: as well as others. But there's some good tournament stuff
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: here too, I think. So we've got the Giants at
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: the Eagles, Hurts, Davante, Smith, Goddard definitely works. It pops
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: off the charts in our stack rankings. I think anybody
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: who's talking about anything this week with Diabasa saying, look,
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: I'd like to beat it with something else, but that
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: looks pretty good on paper. We're missing aj Brown. We
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: could see a bunch of targets, all these different factors.
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: It's a bad rush D. It's a bad D. It's
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: it's the Giants, simple and playing. So give us your
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: thoughts on this one. Any ways you have maybe we
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: can get different with it.
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: The problem is I really don't have ways to get different,
- 1:02:55Speaker 3: like playing the Eagles defense in it. You can play Hurts, Davante,
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: godd or Eagle. Just hope it's all of them and
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: they smash. I just think I have to get different
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: in other spots when I'm playing it Like Davonte and
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: Goddard are two of the chalkier guys on the slate.
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: It's easy to play hurts with them. I mean, you
- 1:03:12Speaker 3: get the rushing upside more concentrated Without AJ, I really
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: don't know how I get different. Like a Wandale I
- 1:03:18Speaker 3: think would be my favorite runback, and I am fine
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: with that. But do I love it on this slate?
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: Not really.
- 1:03:25Speaker 3: Darius Slayton's coming back, Theo Johnson. I mean, Dart's been
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: a gamer. He's been fun to watch for sure. Brutal
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: loss last week, that's another story with how bad these
- 1:03:34Speaker 3: coaches are. I truly just don't see how I can
- 1:03:37Speaker 3: get different in this spot. I'm playing a lot of Goddard,
- 1:03:39Speaker 3: I'm playing a lot of Smith, Saquon, I'm playing some
- 1:03:42Speaker 3: of But man, it's it's been tough this year. Like
- 1:03:44Speaker 3: he just the offensive line isn't opening up the holes
- 1:03:48Speaker 3: like he's been used to, and they're always the toush
- 1:03:51Speaker 3: push concern. The prices come down, though, especially on FanDuel
- 1:03:54Speaker 3: eight point one K on FanDuel is almost daring you
- 1:03:57Speaker 3: to play them. But sometimes when that's the case, when
- 1:04:00Speaker 3: ownership is just keeps getting raised, because the price and
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: the name, Like, there's a lot of good running backs,
- 1:04:06Speaker 3: opportunities tough at running backs, So I'd be lying if
- 1:04:10Speaker 3: I like Saquon, I'm gonna play some props are fine.
- 1:04:13Speaker 3: It feels like one of these spots. I like the
- 1:04:14Speaker 3: passing game a lot more, though, I just truly don't
- 1:04:17Speaker 3: know how to get different besides when I am playing
- 1:04:19Speaker 3: the Hurts Devonte Goddard stuff. I need to get different
- 1:04:23Speaker 3: at other spots is what I'm looking at.
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the only thing you get like there's
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: guys on the other side. Of course, whether it's Robinson
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: who's being held in check twelve targets last week we
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: have an even bigger game. He's had, you know, decent
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: spots throughout the season. Our guy Sean talked about Darius
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: break the Slayton He's back in the mix. You could
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: see that as a way to just you'll cut into
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: the stack ownership on the other side. But I think
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: you have to do like Barkley with the Eagles D
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: or like Jalen Hurts naked, maybe even with the Eagles
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: D like, just something like that because they are slated
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: to put up twenty six. I think at home is
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: the team total number they got. It got to come
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: from somewhere.
- 1:04:59Speaker 3: I'm gonna play hurts set naked, You're gonna play some
- 1:05:03Speaker 3: I think.
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what I'll get to till after
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: the show, but I'm saying I'm just trying to think
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: of ways to get different with it. It would be
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: a way because you would just be taking the It's
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: a sixty six hundred dollars quarterback that could rush in
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: two to three touchdowns. It's the tushbush stuff is always
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: an advantage, and every single one of those rushes hurts Barkley,
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: not not hurts, does not help Barkley, Smith and Goddard.
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: And you know we've I've had that one before and
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: sometimes it's not Jalen hurts, it's Jalen helps and he
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: helps the team. Just put up all the points that
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: it really does affect the other guys on the squad.
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: So it's not ideal, but it's on this slate. It
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: actually is a way to flip it and get a
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: bit different, and then you end up filling it out.
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: I will say this DeVante Smith's fifty nine hundred. There's
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: like five receivers in that price range. That you could
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: all see where he has a good game, he gets
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: you his prop whatever it is, he gets you like
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: six for eighty one, doesn't get in the ball. I
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: think I don't remember what his yardage is, but let's
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: say he gets you like just over his yardage prop
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: he gets you six catch is it's a solid fourteen
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: to fifteen type points you see, but no touchdown. You
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: could have a bunch of receivers that break him for
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: twenty thirty you know, twenty to thirty range, So that
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: would be another thing where you've got like Hurts like
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: a Hurts. Higgins is an example that you could just
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: play those two and not have Smith, and you're hoping
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: that Hurts does the work, and then it's Higgins really
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: beats Smith, which also really beats Chase. It's it's like
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: a double whammy of moving it all around. Hoop, you
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: got other stuff to add on this spot or anything else.
- 1:06:27Speaker 3: You're thinking, Oh, you just got Hiatt news quick, and
- 1:06:30Speaker 3: not that it matters, but he'll be inactive if you
- 1:06:32Speaker 3: want the slate in won Dale's it gets a little
- 1:06:34Speaker 3: more concentrated.
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: We're getting like no news this morning, and that's a
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: story that's crazy oh.
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: You know something's gonna happen today. But you've got to
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: mention a littl Jordan a little boost for a little
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: booster there you will. The one thing that definitely stands
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: out to me on the eagle side, Like, I just
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: don't love this Devanta Smith ownership. Like, if you're playing
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: a lot of teams and yeah, you can get some exposure,
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: but if you are like handbuilding teams and like you're
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: you're falling on DeVonta Smith. There's just, like Tambo said,
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: there's so many different guys there. Like, to me, just
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: play somebody else than DeVonta Smith. Like, obviously, if you're
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: playing eagle stack, then yeah, you can include him in there.
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: But if you're like if he's your last guy in
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: or whatever, if you're building a team and you need
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: a wide receiver in that range, I would probably play
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: anyone besides him, is what I'm trying to get. I
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: do like Goddard though I know the ownership has come
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: up quite a bit obviously, but I think he's fine.
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: I'm sticking with the Barkley stuff. I mean, dude's too talented.
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: It just has to happen at some point. You got
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: aj Brown out. The price is at an all time Well,
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: you have other running backs that people are still going
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: to play, so the ownership can't get out of control
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: on sa Quon. The price on Fanduels low. It's lowest
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: it has probably ever been. I think it is an
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: eighty one hundred title. I think, right, yeah, eighty one hundred. Like,
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: I just gotta I have to play it. Like they're
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: missing aj Brown. I know he has not had a
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: huge season, but that's that's substantial. And if they're going
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: to score the twenty six points that Vegas says they're
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: going to score, like, it's got to come from from
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: some of these guys. So I'm in on it. But
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: like the one thing for sure is like with with
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: DeVonta Smith, Like if you're just if it's like a
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: one off situation and you need a wide receiver in
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: that range, I think you probably better suited playing somebody else.
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: Runbacks would just be the pass catchers Wan Dale And
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: I'm fine with some Darius Slayton, but not thrilled with
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: the Giants here. And I do think I do think
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: they can win this game. Someone posted it like I
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: don't think this, Like I think the Giants are better.
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: I think the Giants are pretty an average team. Okay,
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: let's say that, like they're an average team. Like they smoked.
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: They were smoking Denver in Denver the entire game, and
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: then you know, they just got stupid with coaching decisions
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: like we talked about all the time. You can say
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: that about basically every team, but they Denver is a
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: hard place to play, and they went in there and
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: their defense, you know, laid it down in Denver. So
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: I think the Giants can win this game. If they
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: win it, it's probably an ugly game. But with aj
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: Brown out for fantasy purposes, I am going to be
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: on the Eagle stuff. My favorite part of the Eagle
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: stuff for sure. As safe one. It just it has
- 1:09:09Speaker 2: to happen at some point.
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the things that gets talked about. Alex
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: brought it up yesterday, like Marquee Sports still got that logo.
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: He's really following the marketing plan over there, but says
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: Hoop's saying, you don't need to jam Smith in if
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: you land on him. He was saying that, but Alex
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday too. Is like as a one off,
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: I get the injury stuff and what makes a good,
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: and in cash you just play whatever. He obviously is
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: great at fifty nine hundred, it makes a ton of sense.
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: But in the tournament, like you have to think about it.
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: If his ceiling is thirty, let's say, or twenty five
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: to thirty. If he gets there on like ten one
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: seventy five in a touchdown, that's one that's still really helpful.
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: But that's also only one touchdown for the Eagles. How
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: else do the others get in there? It's probably with
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: Barkley Hurts whatever, Like, there's gonna be stacks that would
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: bring it that way. If he gets there on two touchdowns,
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: that's already two touchdowns you're likely giving to Hurt. So
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: it's like when you have him as a one off
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: in these large field tournaments. Not saying it can't work,
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: it's saying why it becomes very tricky because most people
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: haven't overstacked, and they're just gonna sort of come up
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: over the top of you, and then you're left behind
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: because you don't have the other stuff that makes that work.
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: So I think it's interesting from that. I would love
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: to be able to get this fricking scat chain. There's
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: a bunch of millies up top today. I just want
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: to get that chain so bad, just for the bit.
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: But I don't know if I can get to him
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: here in this spot. Maybe he's a way to get
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: different with some of those stacks.
- 1:10:26Speaker 3: You're trying to get that chain that bad.
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: You know, I'm playing it for the bit. Of course,
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: I literally blow money. I'm coming off a big winning week.
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: I'm definitely blowing some scat money. But the girls, you
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: see that, you've seen his new girls. Yeah, I'm not
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: getting the grills, get the grills. I did change it
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: up though I said I'm not. My goal is not
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: to win the Millimaker. My goal is to get the
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: chain through winning the Millimaker. So I'll get the chain
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: even if I just win the Millie without scat. That's
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: the new deal, just to have why not right as well?
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: All right, this next game, I gotta go to hoop.
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: If my guy is is scat, his is rat. We
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: got Spencer Rattler at home. Hoop tried to call this
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. Maybe this is the turnaround here, Hoopster,
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: what do we got?
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean people are playing him, which is a
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: little unfortunate. When I made the call no one was
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: playing him. Now he's getting some ownership because oh.
- 1:11:18Speaker 3: That sounds familiar. Oh that sounds really familiar.
- 1:11:21Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, yeah, people are starting to starting to
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: realize the greatness here. Yeah. I think that's the problem though.
- 1:11:28Speaker 3: Everyone's kind of on a little bit this week.
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I'm fine with it. Like, you know
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: who you're you're playing them with. It's like you have options,
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: I guess, and you can do it in a variety
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: of ways. Got a love you got Shaheed Dwan Johnson
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: and then Alvin Kamara. You can even play them with.
- 1:11:46Speaker 2: So fine with it. You know, potential trailing game script
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: at home in the dome. I like it. I'm fine
- 1:11:54Speaker 2: playing it. I am way more interested in the other
- 1:11:56Speaker 2: side though, you know, Baker Mayfield. I think it it's
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: a really good spot to go to Baker today. A
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: lot of people are gonna be playing Rashad White. Rashad
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: White's the one running back that looks underpriced, and he's
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: a really good play. I mean, he can get there
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: in a variety of different ways. But then it's like, man,
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: I can just go to the passing side of this.
- 1:12:15Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield not much ownership because I think like everyone
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: is looking to I don't know, maybe go cheap at
- 1:12:22Speaker 2: quarterback wherever it is. But like I'll take Baker and
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: you got rushing upside, you got the direct you got
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: the direct play in Abuca at seven K I think
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: he's phenomenal under price. This Ted Johnson guy looks good.
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: He's cheap, and then you get a tight end pivot
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: off the popular guy's Kate Atton. I think it's totally fine.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: Kate Oughten, I believe had it finally started to get
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: some work, like a consistent workload. I wanted to pull
- 1:12:48Speaker 2: up the targets real fast just to reference this, because
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: I do think he is a good play. Thirty four
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: hundred nine targets last week six before that five, like
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: Kate Atten, is a pivot off of Schultz and Dallas
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: Goddard who are going to get a lot of ownership.
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: So I really like the Baker stuff. And then you
- 1:13:07Speaker 2: have runbacks on the other side, like it's like in
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: direct runbacks Olave Shaheed, you know, maybe Juwan Johnson if
- 1:13:15Speaker 2: you want, so, really like the Baker spot today obviously
- 1:13:18Speaker 2: still good with Rashabwhite. I mean it's rare to get
- 1:13:21Speaker 2: these running backs that can just get there in any
- 1:13:23Speaker 2: sort of game script, it does not matter. He can
- 1:13:25Speaker 2: catch the passes, goal line work, he does all of it.
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: So it's a really good spot. And I think this
- 1:13:30Speaker 2: is a good game overall both sides, but I definitely
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: prefer going the Baker side. And it might be like
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: it's kind of weird when you look at Baker and
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: Rattler and Baker might be the one that's lower owned,
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: you know, like everyone assumes that it would be Baker.
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: That's how I own, but Baker is lower owned, which
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: is pretty wild to me. So I'm definitely in on it.
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: And I think it's a really good game. Sneaky, somewhat
- 1:13:50Speaker 2: sneaky game outside.
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think it's interesting. Shout out to our
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: man Hamhock just dominating the College Football Beast cfbast I
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: call him, got it maxed out the College Fall World
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: Championship seats with five when another twenty grand last night.
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: Just crushing it across the board. He helps with all
- 1:14:06Speaker 1: of our content over at ship in Nation, So shout
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: out to him to remembering the Sean Tucker spot and
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: we definitely have seen it. It was with Bucky Irving,
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: mind you, that was Chock that week when Sean Tucker
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: came in had a thirty plus point DraftKings game. But
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: just of note, he's remembering that stuff. I like what
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: Hoop said title. I think it's like all or nothing.
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: Don't forget about the Shaheed showcase coming up before he
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: gets traded to the Patriots. So we have to wait
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: and see how that goes. But I think Shaheed they've
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: talked about it again today, you know, looking to put
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: him on the block. I know'm oh, they got to
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: keep him healthy. I always think they showcase it more
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: with receivers versus try It's like running backs and things
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: like that they try and protect. But definitely think you
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: could stack up the Ratler side. The stack rankings look
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: good here. Everybody's got a little bit of steam in
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: this game, obviously Rashaan White being the most owned. But
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: how many people are playing seven guys from this game
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: or six guys from this game? I don't know. And
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: so that's where I think you'd have to it's kind
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: of at all or nothing spot for me when it
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: comes to that. What's your thoughts in this game?
- 1:14:59Speaker 3: Yeah? First, yeah, I want to shout on Hammock talk
- 1:15:02Speaker 3: about greatness and into like niche stuff. And I mean
- 1:15:05Speaker 3: he's one of the best college football players the whole
- 1:15:08Speaker 3: college football team that is not a sport that I
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: would love to do. Content for having to swift through
- 1:15:14Speaker 3: a million beat reporters at d whatever football congrats, prizes
- 1:15:18Speaker 3: are awesome. We've been crushing over at ship at Hammock
- 1:15:22Speaker 3: deserves an extra shoutout for sure. I didn't know that
- 1:15:23Speaker 3: was his name. Kenny Willman, Kenny.
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: W Man, You're very special, dudes. Many crush.
- 1:15:29Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I love this game. I don't really have
- 1:15:31Speaker 3: much too much more to add from what you guys said.
- 1:15:34Speaker 3: The appeal of this game is just you can get
- 1:15:35Speaker 3: so many cheap pieces that are gonna like Test Johnson
- 1:15:39Speaker 3: four to three, Kate out and three four, Shaheed four
- 1:15:41Speaker 3: to seven. I'm gonna call Lave still cheap. I mean
- 1:15:44Speaker 3: they refuse to raise his price. One of these days
- 1:15:47Speaker 3: they'll find two more yards for the bonus. Rashad White,
- 1:15:49Speaker 3: I'm gonna consider him cheap. I'm gonna say Buca's cheap
- 1:15:52Speaker 3: without Mike Evans and Godwin, like all of these guys
- 1:15:55Speaker 3: feel under priced. People don't want to click on Baker.
- 1:15:58Speaker 3: It feels like a great bounce back after a brutal
- 1:16:01Speaker 3: game for them on Monday against Detroit, and now, just
- 1:16:05Speaker 3: like Hoop with Judkins a week later, he jumps on
- 1:16:07Speaker 3: I'm jumping on Rattler this week. I think it's the
- 1:16:09Speaker 3: perfect spot. You can just do so many things again,
- 1:16:13Speaker 3: you can play a lave Shaheed run it back with
- 1:16:15Speaker 3: two bucks. I just I like this game a lot.
- 1:16:18Speaker 3: I think probably the overhits prices wise. I mean you
- 1:16:23Speaker 3: thirteen fourteen fifteen from tes from Aten do you love it?
- 1:16:28Speaker 3: It's fine, it doesn't kill your teams, and I think
- 1:16:30Speaker 3: there's a lot more upside in the dome. Could be
- 1:16:32Speaker 3: a track meet. Shaheat speeds games up tesin Abuka can Yeah,
- 1:16:36Speaker 3: I really like this game.
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: What props do we got for Rattler today? Just curious
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: for his passing? Yeah, like any just give me anything
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: on Rattler right now. I'm just curious about what he's got.
- 1:16:48Speaker 2: All right.
- 1:16:48Speaker 3: I want to look at his rushing first, because he
- 1:16:50Speaker 3: has had some sneaky legs too. He is well seventeen
- 1:16:54Speaker 3: and a half. That's not very good passing prop. The
- 1:16:57Speaker 3: touchdowns we're looking at or two pluses plus one thirty eight,
- 1:17:02Speaker 3: it only gets worse as I as I'm looking at
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: this his passing yards two thirteen and a half, I
- 1:17:11Speaker 3: just hope he hits the over because those those those
- 1:17:15Speaker 3: props don't really intrigue me much. But he's he's so
- 1:17:17Speaker 3: cheap and forty seven hundred with clear guys to pair
- 1:17:20Speaker 3: him with. Yeah, I think he's been playing better football
- 1:17:23Speaker 3: than I believe the quarterback he was before the year.
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: All right, I'm with you on that. I think, like
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: I said, it's gonna be an all or nothing. It's
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: easy to pair up. Obviously, a ton of things that
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: can tilt you here, but the best way to do it,
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: in my opinion, is to get in on all the
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: action here. And I like the Baker side. You know,
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: Baker Buka Tz.
- 1:17:39Speaker 2: Kate is good.
- 1:17:41Speaker 3: He can stretch the field, he can He's good.
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: What I'm thinking though, is this is like Kate Aughton
- 1:17:47Speaker 1: is already the you know, a nice pivot off of Schaltz.
- 1:17:50Speaker 1: Like that works fine, and you can use other things
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: in there, but like if you're using Tz, I kind
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: of want it coming from Baker. And then you get
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: a Buka. You can go through the past game and
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: leave White out. You could play Baker White Auten. All
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: I care about is on the rattler side, is that
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: he can potentially push the game, and I think between
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: all of their options they can and we'll have our
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: let's get to four hundred likes. We're at almost three
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: hundred right now, and we'll do the two touchdown takes
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: at the end. That's what we'll save it for. But
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- 1:18:20Speaker 1: hit the thumbs up button. It's right below. If you're
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: watching it on mobile, it's the same, not the heart button.
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: The thumbs up makes it really easy, and we'll get
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: to that. We got two games left to go. Hoop,
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick it to you. This is interesting. So
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: this game has what a fifty one point total, and
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: there is like no ownership on anybody. Really. Bonix is
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: getting some sure, but even his pieces with him, nobody
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: knows what to do with it. So what are you
- 1:18:45Speaker 1: doing here with the cowboys at the Broncos. How are
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: you handling this one?
- 1:18:48Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because everyone looks at this game and like, damn,
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: I want to be a part of it. But then
- 1:18:54Speaker 2: like you look at ownership and no one is a
- 1:18:56Speaker 2: part of it besides Bonix. Like everyone knows they want
- 1:18:59Speaker 2: to play bow Knicks, but you know, playing bow Nicks
- 1:19:02Speaker 2: can be somewhat tricky. Like obviously it's it's Courtland Sutton
- 1:19:06Speaker 2: with him, and it's kind of wild to me. I
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: figured Sutton would be much more popular than he is,
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: but he really just hasn't had like the explosion game
- 1:19:14Speaker 2: this season, So I think people are hesitant to click it,
- 1:19:18Speaker 2: like we're showing what twelve percent, Like that's low for
- 1:19:22Speaker 2: a guy that might have, you know, one of the
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: best matchups on the slate. So I think Sutton is
- 1:19:26Speaker 2: a phenomenal play today when you take a matchup into account,
- 1:19:29Speaker 2: the ownership, the price tag. I think he's great. So
- 1:19:33Speaker 2: I want to be all over Sutton. I'm fine with
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: these other guys, Troy Franklin, Mims, keep them in the
- 1:19:38Speaker 2: mix a little bit. I think the problem people are
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: having is going to the other side, hesitant to play
- 1:19:43Speaker 2: Lamb because of the matchup. Who's the cornerback that everyone
- 1:19:46Speaker 2: fears what's his name? Certain, I mean, I don't know.
- 1:19:49Speaker 2: Like to me, the top wide receivers are better than
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: the top quarterbacks, and you can get switched off. So
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: like Ceedee Lamb coming in at like no ownership, I
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: am definitely in on that. You know, I think Pickens
- 1:20:01Speaker 2: is fine. And then I mean my guy, like another
- 1:20:04Speaker 2: tight end that nobody wants to play, and he's probably
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: been the second best tight end in the league, maybe
- 1:20:11Speaker 2: the first. Jake Ferguson, like people don't want to pay
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: him play play him today because of the price tag.
- 1:20:17Speaker 2: I'm definitely in on Ferguson. So all the runbacks for
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: Dallas are really low owned, and I think it's clear.
- 1:20:26Speaker 2: I mean, c D. I'm fine with no ownership Pickens.
- 1:20:29Speaker 2: You know, his price has come up a little bit
- 1:20:31Speaker 2: because of those weeks without Lamb so that people are
- 1:20:33Speaker 2: hesitant to play him, and then Ferguson prices up. So
- 1:20:36Speaker 2: I love the Dallas runbacks that no ownership. Not really
- 1:20:40Speaker 2: interested in the running backs here, Dobbins or Javonte Williams.
- 1:20:44Speaker 2: I mean, to me, the problem with Javonte Williams is
- 1:20:46Speaker 2: he's he's got a real price tag, like he's got
- 1:20:49Speaker 2: a big boy price that he's got to do something
- 1:20:51Speaker 2: very big, and I just don't like him in this matchup.
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: I don't like the Denver running backs today. So for me,
- 1:20:57Speaker 2: it's very clear it's bo Nicks with any of those
- 1:21:00Speaker 2: pass catchers. Love it, love it with something. I mean,
- 1:21:03Speaker 2: it's very rare. You can just play the highest, probably
- 1:21:07Speaker 2: one of the highest on quarterbacks on this slate with
- 1:21:08Speaker 2: their number one pass catcher, and the number one pass
- 1:21:10Speaker 2: catcher isn't going to be super highly owned. I mean,
- 1:21:13Speaker 2: it's a rare situation. So I want to take advantage
- 1:21:16Speaker 2: of that the other guys, and then the runbacks are
- 1:21:18Speaker 2: clear and probably not playing Dak today.
- 1:21:21Speaker 1: What about the Javante revenge game though?
- 1:21:24Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, I guess see, if you're into
- 1:21:27Speaker 2: that sort of thing, I'm not going there.
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: One of the problems. I know, what have we got
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: on Javonte today?
- 1:21:31Speaker 3: Let's do that one Javante. I was looking at the
- 1:21:33Speaker 3: receiving on We got.
- 1:21:34Speaker 1: About ninety likes to go to get to the two
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: touchdown takes, and I think there's some good ones today.
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: I feel really good about mine. So yeah, let's keep
- 1:21:42Speaker 1: it rolling there while you're looking this up. Javante, though,
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: is what I was mostly sixty.
- 1:21:45Speaker 3: Sixty four and a half on the ground and let's
- 1:21:48Speaker 3: see touchdown he is there's a lot of Williams when
- 1:21:53Speaker 3: I search minus one thirty not terrible.
- 1:21:58Speaker 1: I think you just pair those together if you think
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: it's a revenge game that could all happen and still
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: not be needed.
- 1:22:03Speaker 3: He can get for sure touchdown.
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: And he's not paying off seven K almost Yeah, so yeah,
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: that's a good bet. Probably not a necessarily needed unless
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: go again. He can be needed, of course, he can
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: well up the slate. It's a fifty one point total
- 1:22:17Speaker 1: all that I'm saying more of. If you like that,
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: don't just ought to assume that that's what means he
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: needs to go into your line, if you have to
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: consider the slate, dynamics, his price, tag matchup, et cetera,
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. So yeah, go ahead, title, Let
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: you take over this game and how you're handling it.
- 1:22:30Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's a game that I thought i'd probably
- 1:22:33Speaker 3: get more of, and I'm kind of at the field.
- 1:22:35Speaker 3: It's getting overlooked, and I'm I guess overlooking it a bit.
- 1:22:37Speaker 3: I like bow Nicks a lot, and I really like Sutton.
- 1:22:40Speaker 3: I think Troy Franklin is a very good play as well.
- 1:22:43Speaker 3: Like those cheap receivers, I think when people really go
- 1:22:46Speaker 3: down Nol will probably be people's favorite, just getting or
- 1:22:50Speaker 3: getting exposure to the highest total cheap receiver that's going
- 1:22:53Speaker 3: to be on the field a lot mims. I'm fine
- 1:22:55Speaker 3: with them at thirty nine. Obviously, the problem with them
- 1:22:58Speaker 3: is they just rotate four. Pat Bryan plays a good
- 1:23:01Speaker 3: amount and I'm definitely not playing Pat Bryant. But Sutton's
- 1:23:04Speaker 3: the clear guy. If I'm playing Bo Nicks, I don't
- 1:23:06Speaker 3: mind doubling it. And then if I want to run back,
- 1:23:09Speaker 3: yeah I don't, sir. TAM's great. Don't get me wrong.
- 1:23:11Speaker 3: Offense always beats defense. What I tell myself, CD seventy
- 1:23:15Speaker 3: seven and a half receiving props good, I mean, no
- 1:23:18Speaker 3: one like with Chase right there, everyone's gonna click Chase
- 1:23:21Speaker 3: his name and rightfully, so you have the value. You
- 1:23:23Speaker 3: can play Chase and CD if you want, though, like
- 1:23:26Speaker 3: if you go bow Nicks, Troy Franklin or something like that,
- 1:23:30Speaker 3: you can get two spend up receivers and go lower elsewhere.
- 1:23:34Speaker 3: So yeah, CD Javante very indifferent to them. We'll have
- 1:23:39Speaker 3: some when I'm playing Bo Nick stuff Outside of that though, Yeah, Franklin, Sutton,
- 1:23:43Speaker 3: two guys, I'm fine with with Bo Nicks or without.
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: I think it's a really good spot to run like
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: bon Nicks, Sutton, Franklin Lamb, and then it's up to you.
- 1:23:53Speaker 1: You could run like a Chase Brown or a Higgins
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: or some way to get different because you're doubling down
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: on Lamb eating this the eighty one hundred lunch of Chase.
- 1:24:01Speaker 1: Therefore you pick it up somewhere else. But I think
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: that's just the sneaky way to do it and get
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: a piece of this game. Where it's like you said
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: the other thing too, I will say from the morning,
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: like bijon lineups if they don't work out, or what
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: else is something we'll see in the morning that's a
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: little bit more popular, anything to do with Chase or
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: I guess like that kind of spent the money already.
- 1:24:21Speaker 3: Probably Devonte Smith got her. No, I'll just say other
- 1:24:25Speaker 3: popular plays that where you were things that don't work.
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: Out in the morning, where people will be more likely
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: to start moving on to this game and being like oh,
- 1:24:31Speaker 1: or if people have some low owned stuff in the morning,
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: they might say, damn, now I have the choice. I
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: don't I might not have to go to the other
- 1:24:37Speaker 1: spots and I can just go to this Broncos Cowboys game,
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: so what we'll see. But it's definitely interesting that it
- 1:24:41Speaker 1: has such a big total numbers haven't really moved. But
- 1:24:45Speaker 1: the other thing is pricing matters, and you look at
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: it too. And I'll go to you Hoop for this
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: final game, but before I do, I'll just say, even
- 1:24:51Speaker 1: if you look at the stone like it's a good
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: game to target, there's some good stuff there, but as
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: far as like optimal rates and projections and ceilings and
- 1:24:59Speaker 1: all that, a lot whatever you think is going to
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: happen or could happen, is already baked into the price,
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's even if Javonte has
- 1:25:06Speaker 1: a pretty good game one hundred yard bonus and a touchdown,
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: he's still almost seven K. What if for eighteen hundred more,
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: Bijon has three touchdowns and one hundred yards, you still
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: have other people that are needed.
- 1:25:16Speaker 2: Another thing with that too, It's like, if you like
- 1:25:18Speaker 2: the dumper stuff, you can just play the dumper stuff.
- 1:25:21Speaker 2: You don't have to force in a run back in
- 1:25:23Speaker 2: this situation either, Like it's totally fine just going. But
- 1:25:26Speaker 2: if you like bo Nicks and Sutton doing that, and
- 1:25:28Speaker 2: then if your handbuilding find a secondary stack. We talked
- 1:25:31Speaker 2: about a lot of them. I mean it could be,
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: you know, Bijon and Jalen Waddle get exposure to that game.
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: It could be that we talked about that forty nine
- 1:25:40Speaker 2: ers Texans mini as a secondary like Christian McCaffrey, Noel
- 1:25:45Speaker 2: and Schultz al together. So you don't have to force
- 1:25:49Speaker 2: a runback on the Dallas side.
- 1:25:52Speaker 1: I'll stay with you. Final game of the slate, We've
- 1:25:54Speaker 1: got the Colts at home versus the Titans. Almost at
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: the three hundred and fifty thumbs up, so make sure
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: you guys are doing a favor hit that thumbs up.
- 1:26:01Speaker 1: We'll get to the two touchdown takes at the end.
- 1:26:03Speaker 1: Thumbs up for the Colts at the Titans. We got
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: the last game of the day. Who what do we got?
- 1:26:08Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean the biggest favorite of the season. I mean,
- 1:26:11Speaker 2: and it keeps going up. The Cults are now favored
- 1:26:13Speaker 2: by fifteen and a half. I mean have looked like
- 1:26:18Speaker 2: the best team in the NFL. I mean, the most
- 1:26:20Speaker 2: surprising team for sure this year. And they've looked really
- 1:26:22Speaker 2: good and when they faced these bad teams, I mean,
- 1:26:26Speaker 2: they just have beat the shit out of them. Like
- 1:26:28Speaker 2: they beat the shit out of who wasn't a couple
- 1:26:30Speaker 2: of weeks ago. I think the Raiders. They've just demolished
- 1:26:33Speaker 2: these bad teams and I expect that to happen today
- 1:26:36Speaker 2: for fantasy purposes. How do they get there? You know,
- 1:26:40Speaker 2: what do you say minus four to twenty five for
- 1:26:42Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor to score? Definitely don't bet that like that,
- 1:26:44Speaker 2: definitely don't make that that bat But that is an
- 1:26:47Speaker 2: insane number? Is that what it is? For twenty five? Yeah? Yeah,
- 1:26:51Speaker 2: you just never see that. It's just that's probably one
- 1:26:54Speaker 2: of the biggest touchdown props I've ever seen before. And yeah,
- 1:26:57Speaker 2: he probably does score, but you know it, if you
- 1:27:00Speaker 2: feel good about it, are you gonna have to put up
- 1:27:01Speaker 2: four to twenty five to get a get a hundred
- 1:27:03Speaker 2: out of it? So the price is up there, He's
- 1:27:07Speaker 2: going to get owned. It doesn't matter, like if it's
- 1:27:09Speaker 2: not him. The real question is if it's not him
- 1:27:12Speaker 2: or it still could be him and others, Like how
- 1:27:14Speaker 2: else do they score the their projector score almost thirty
- 1:27:17Speaker 2: two points. They're projected to score you know, five to
- 1:27:21Speaker 2: almost five touchdowns today, which is absolutely insane, Like who
- 1:27:25Speaker 2: else does it? I mean Daniel Jones has been great.
- 1:27:27Speaker 2: You can play him Pittman, Tyler Warren and they could
- 1:27:32Speaker 2: score forty something here, and it could be it could
- 1:27:36Speaker 2: be Jonathan Taylor with Daniel Jones and moren you can
- 1:27:39Speaker 2: do a lot of different things here with the team
- 1:27:41Speaker 2: that's projected to score so many real life points. Down's in.
- 1:27:45Speaker 2: I believe he's in right like he was out last week.
- 1:27:47Speaker 2: I think he is in so full complement of past
- 1:27:51Speaker 2: catchers for Daniel Jones, and like, I'm just not playing
- 1:27:56Speaker 2: any any Titans guys today.
- 1:27:58Speaker 1: This Titan side is depleted too from defense and whatnot
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: as well. You could definitely see that. That's another one
- 1:28:05Speaker 1: title I'll go to you, I guess. I mean, it's
- 1:28:06Speaker 1: obviously you want to get to Jonathan Taylor if you can.
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: He's ninety five hundred on DraftKings. He's ten two fandl's
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: an interesting spot because Bijon's only two hundred less, and
- 1:28:14Speaker 1: then you get those discounts on McCaffrey and Saquant so
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: FanDuel again really really interesting this week with their pricing
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: and changing it up a bit that I kind of
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: like that. But it's another spot too. Is he likely
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: to score a touchdown. Absolutely, he's literally minus score twenty
- 1:28:26Speaker 1: five to score a touchdown.
- 1:28:28Speaker 2: I've got just got the big news and it's definitely
- 1:28:31Speaker 2: I definitely want to take time to circle back London
- 1:28:33Speaker 2: out and that that changes a lot for today, so
- 1:28:35Speaker 2: we can after this game. Touch you go back to
- 1:28:37Speaker 2: it after this game.
- 1:28:38Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just gonna say that, you know, minus
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: four twenty five the one thing I'm at ninety five hundred.
- 1:28:43Speaker 1: You know you're looking for I think forty two point
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: five on DraftKings, almost like you're looking for a big
- 1:28:48Speaker 1: boy score, putting those numbers together in a different way.
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: So Taylor definitely makes some sense. I've got some Jones lineups.
- 1:28:54Speaker 1: I like Jones, Pittman, I like Tyler Warren. Nobody's paying
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: up at tight end this week. And also again it's
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: unfortunates against the Titans. That's part of it. But we
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: saw the you know, the teams that just go off
- 1:29:06Speaker 1: against these colts. Is there any chance that that side.
- 1:29:08Speaker 1: It's hard to pick one and bring somebody back, But
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: if you wanted to roll through it, it would be interesting
- 1:29:13Speaker 1: because it's another cheap stack that would work. Like if
- 1:29:16Speaker 1: you played ward Io manor DK and Taylor. That's interesting
- 1:29:23Speaker 1: because you would just fit anything else you wanted. Would
- 1:29:25Speaker 1: Is it likely to happen? No, But if it does,
- 1:29:27Speaker 1: it'd be like you'd need the Herbert situation where DK
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: is Allen from last week. You could have somebody like
- 1:29:32Speaker 1: a Gunn or Helm or or something like that be
- 1:29:34Speaker 1: your Gadson of last week and hope that they do
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: enough at those prices. But the combined prices on them
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: is I mean, you're spending like eleven grand on a
- 1:29:42Speaker 1: three man stack for the Titans. That's three dudes including
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: a quarterback, a wide receiver, one high air quotes on
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: that one. But you get what I'm saying, right, there's
- 1:29:50Speaker 1: a there's an interesting set up there where at least
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: it makes the tailor play easier to roll with, pushes
- 1:29:55Speaker 1: them a little bit to get the big boys ceiling
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: out of him, and then you can fill it out
- 1:29:59Speaker 1: with just everybody good. What do you think about something
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: like that?
- 1:30:01Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear what you're saying. I just I can't
- 1:30:03Speaker 3: click these Titans stack. These guys are yeah, I mean
- 1:30:07Speaker 3: they got to figure it out. The interesting stuff. I
- 1:30:10Speaker 3: think the most interesting talking point is the three games
- 1:30:12Speaker 3: in the afternoon window and with the Cowboys Denver having
- 1:30:15Speaker 3: the highest total, Like that's a pivot game, Like it's
- 1:30:18Speaker 3: gonna be clear the Saints Buccaneers will get the ownership,
- 1:30:21Speaker 3: and I agree with it, and then this game and
- 1:30:24Speaker 3: the Denver Dallas game will be pretty low owned. So initially, like,
- 1:30:28Speaker 3: I don't think I'm gonna have too much of these
- 1:30:29Speaker 3: games or even like really in this game, like JT,
- 1:30:32Speaker 3: I like Colts defense, I like Tyler Warren. But if
- 1:30:36Speaker 3: I do need to pivot on this stuff and get
- 1:30:38Speaker 3: off the chalk, like Danny Dimes, I think is the
- 1:30:42Speaker 3: way to go. I prefer Danny to like. Again, I
- 1:30:45Speaker 3: like Rattler Baker. They'll be higher on though I like
- 1:30:48Speaker 3: Danny Moore than Dak and I definitely like him more
- 1:30:51Speaker 3: than cam Ward, and they're implied for thirty two points.
- 1:30:54Speaker 3: You get a little leverage off of the running game. Again,
- 1:30:57Speaker 3: I don't think I'm gonna have too much pre uh,
- 1:31:00Speaker 3: pre flow, pre lock, whatever it is. But in the
- 1:31:03Speaker 3: afternoon when swapping, I'm fine swapping onto this game because
- 1:31:06Speaker 3: downs will be pretty low on. Pittman will be low owned,
- 1:31:09Speaker 3: Warren will be in check, and they're applied to score
- 1:31:11Speaker 3: a lot of points. But right now ten games Slate.
- 1:31:13Speaker 3: There's other spots I prefer. Yeah, the JT FanDuel DK pricing,
- 1:31:18Speaker 3: like we said, will be more popular on FanDuel than DraftKings. Yeah,
- 1:31:22Speaker 3: he's a good play on both sites. I mean, it's
- 1:31:24Speaker 3: just at what point are they up thirty one in
- 1:31:27Speaker 3: this game where they just don't run him anymore?
- 1:31:28Speaker 1: As the question, Yeah, Taylor active and bresee Hall for
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: the Jets and Djoku active, Swift active most of what
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: we expected. Dalton Kincaid waiting on that, shadur inactive. Yes,
- 1:31:42Speaker 1: so when the computer breaks down, they can't go to
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: the old computer, I should say, but either way the
- 1:31:48Speaker 1: setup there is interesting. So yeah, who let's circle back,
- 1:31:50Speaker 1: let's go go end it on this and see about
- 1:31:53Speaker 1: this London situation you talked about off the top. Someone
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: said it in the chat for sure. I think, yeah,
- 1:31:58Speaker 1: the Mooney ownership does go to the moon. People are
- 1:32:00Speaker 1: already were talking about how Mooney was getting the job
- 1:32:03Speaker 1: done any games they worn't with London, and then how
- 1:32:06Speaker 1: he'd been better in games with London. So it's actually interesting.
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: He will pick up a bunch of steam. But what
- 1:32:11Speaker 1: do you think about the Mooney spot and the rest
- 1:32:13Speaker 1: of this game.
- 1:32:13Speaker 2: Now, I don't love Mooney as wide receiver one, Like, yeah, definitely,
- 1:32:17Speaker 2: I think he gets a little bit of a boost,
- 1:32:19Speaker 2: but I don't. It is not a slam dunk sort
- 1:32:21Speaker 2: of situation anymore. And I'm nervous for the Falcons here.
- 1:32:25Speaker 2: I know they're a big potential survivor play this week
- 1:32:28Speaker 2: and not that you know, we go deep into that stuff,
- 1:32:30Speaker 2: but I'm nervous now. You know, Cousin starting no Drake
- 1:32:34Speaker 2: London definitely boosting Bijeon. I mean, the workload for him
- 1:32:38Speaker 2: could be just absolutely massive. I think that's my biggest
- 1:32:42Speaker 2: takeaway is Bijeon. As much as I can get Bijon.
- 1:32:47Speaker 2: I mean, they're gonna they They're gonna have to lean
- 1:32:49Speaker 2: on him in a very very big way, and I
- 1:32:51Speaker 2: think it kind of ruins the game a little bit.
- 1:32:53Speaker 2: It's it's less exciting overall. I do still like Jalen
- 1:32:56Speaker 2: Waddle quite a bit, and I still like a Cham
- 1:32:59Speaker 2: but the Kirk Cousin stuff to me is much much
- 1:33:01Speaker 2: riskier now, and I might I might be off of
- 1:33:05Speaker 2: it or much much lower on it than I was before.
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: Yeah, you could play Cousins Bijon pits and skip over
- 1:33:13Speaker 1: this conversation about the Mooney stuff. If you wanted to
- 1:33:15Speaker 1: get different that way, I think Bijon, who our guy
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: Tom Brady just said a Bijon is now wide receiver one.
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: I could you know, I could see a world definitely
- 1:33:22Speaker 1: a bunch of checkdowns and him with the ball in
- 1:33:24Speaker 1: motion is definitely pretty interesting. So someone else said it
- 1:33:26Speaker 1: after I just mentioned. I think it's definitely possible. I
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: think in any case, the Mooney boost is good for
- 1:33:32Speaker 1: Pits because people just hate Kyle Pits and it has
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: zero to do with National tight End Day. But I
- 1:33:37Speaker 1: definitely think he's interesting. I mentioned it off the top.
- 1:33:40Speaker 1: If we got that news, that would be a spot
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: I was thinking about title any extra thoughts added thoughts
- 1:33:44Speaker 1: to the London News.
- 1:33:46Speaker 3: So does this just make Bijon even like infinitely more popular?
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: Should? I mean, I think he's gonna be part of
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: the mix as well. People are definitely gonna be higher
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: on expecting him to get even more of the workload.
- 1:33:58Speaker 2: But it's like still limited time to make all the moves.
- 1:34:01Speaker 2: Like you know, you're a component, you're a believer. People
- 1:34:04Speaker 2: build on Saturday and don't well yeah, I mean I
- 1:34:07Speaker 2: think they do. But It's like the majority of people
- 1:34:10Speaker 2: aren't gonna majority of people on the lotto sort of
- 1:34:13Speaker 2: contests aren't going to be factoring in you know, bijon
- 1:34:16Speaker 2: getting a boost here. Yes, the hardcore of one point
- 1:34:18Speaker 2: fifty people that are in it, you know, like us professionally. Yeah,
- 1:34:22Speaker 2: but like you know, when you're in those contests with
- 1:34:24Speaker 2: one hundred thousand people, like, yeah, there's just no way
- 1:34:29Speaker 2: they all make that sort of.
- 1:34:30Speaker 3: Yeah mostly too.
- 1:34:31Speaker 1: I think one one note has to be that that's
- 1:34:33Speaker 1: a good note too, shout out to to jack Off
- 1:34:35Speaker 1: our boy. But what about two tight end has to
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: go down because now you don't need it as well,
- 1:34:42Speaker 1: Like anyone who's on a London lineup or anything in
- 1:34:44Speaker 1: that range or even thinking about something like that could
- 1:34:46Speaker 1: also now just go to Mooney and pick up another
- 1:34:48Speaker 1: value play with their Noel's, with their schultz Is, with
- 1:34:51Speaker 1: their everything. You don't necessarily need two tight ends anymore either.
- 1:34:54Speaker 1: Just of note. I mean, like I said, I wasn't
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: using it a bunch anyway, but just a note. I
- 1:34:58Speaker 1: think that could affect it as well.
- 1:35:00Speaker 3: Yeah, he is right in the same price range as
- 1:35:02Speaker 3: God at four four and four to two. I actually
- 1:35:04Speaker 3: like it does make me like the game a little worse.
- 1:35:07Speaker 3: Like I it makes eight chan better. I don't even
- 1:35:09Speaker 3: know if I agree for the sense of I think
- 1:35:11Speaker 3: they pound the football more, which means they bleed more
- 1:35:13Speaker 3: clock if you get more Ale's year running for four
- 1:35:16Speaker 3: or five yards. Bijon obviously has the big play upside,
- 1:35:19Speaker 3: but if they're not airing it out and pushing this
- 1:35:21Speaker 3: game more, I don't know.
- 1:35:23Speaker 1: Man.
- 1:35:24Speaker 3: I'm I still love Bijon, there's no doubt, but if
- 1:35:26Speaker 3: his ownership went up like eight nine percent, that's that's real.
- 1:35:31Speaker 2: No, I just I can't. You're better at this stuff
- 1:35:35Speaker 2: than me. I'm just I'm I mean. There's still those
- 1:35:37Speaker 2: other options though, too. I mean, people like JT CMC.
- 1:35:43Speaker 1: And it's another point to whop I thought you were
- 1:35:45Speaker 1: gonna say it, but I'm gonna interject. Is the other
- 1:35:47Speaker 1: thing is when people go to Mooney, they they oftentimes
- 1:35:49Speaker 1: there's gonna be people that move off Bijon as well
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: because of if I can make Mooney work, now I
- 1:35:54Speaker 1: can get to this. It's not gonna be a bunch
- 1:35:56Speaker 1: I'm saying. But that adds to holding it in check
- 1:35:58Speaker 1: versus it jumping ten percent or something that's how I
- 1:36:01Speaker 1: would see it.
- 1:36:02Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think there wasn't enough ownership on London
- 1:36:06Speaker 3: to do stuff like this. I like Kyle pittsmore. I
- 1:36:09Speaker 3: already liked him yesterday, but at a tight end position
- 1:36:12Speaker 3: that feels so concentrated with Schultz Goddard stuff like it's
- 1:36:16Speaker 3: I mean, her cousins can still throw the ball like.
- 1:36:18Speaker 3: He's a Onesie position for cheap. So I think he's
- 1:36:20Speaker 3: the one that gets the biggest boost from me.
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: Agreed, does my take off the top? I think it's
- 1:36:25Speaker 1: just interesting. I said it from the last year one
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: of people weren't watching the start of the show to
- 1:36:29Speaker 1: whenever we had the week that was pickings went out
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: late like this, it was in active. It's like a
- 1:36:33Speaker 1: late even later actually, but it was like, oh, everyone
- 1:36:35Speaker 1: went and jammed Calvin Austin the third moved up to
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: bigger running backs and fitting in more of the chalk.
- 1:36:41Speaker 1: That made sense, and it ended up being firemooth. And
- 1:36:43Speaker 1: that's one example. It's not saying it's gonna happen, just
- 1:36:45Speaker 1: saying that's the A lot of people just moved to
- 1:36:47Speaker 1: the to the next who's the wide receiver one? I
- 1:36:50Speaker 1: think Mooney is way better with London in there, because
- 1:36:53Speaker 1: that's the guy that separates him and allows him. And
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: then when you got to people say whatever they want
- 1:36:57Speaker 1: to say about Pitts, but when you got to account
- 1:36:58Speaker 1: for Bijon in London and Pitt's is still a big
- 1:37:01Speaker 1: boy out there roam in the center of the field
- 1:37:03Speaker 1: moving around, then that's where Moody can find open space.
- 1:37:07Speaker 1: They don't have to focus on that as much anymore.
- 1:37:09Speaker 1: So I definitely think it's interesting.
- 1:37:11Speaker 3: He's been so bad too, not that I really I
- 1:37:13Speaker 3: mean it's really bad drops and he's dealt with a
- 1:37:15Speaker 3: lot of injuries, so it's like training camp and stuff
- 1:37:18Speaker 3: was pushed back a little.
- 1:37:19Speaker 2: But again it's I.
- 1:37:21Speaker 3: Agree with you, like i've I actually like Moony when
- 1:37:23Speaker 3: London's in because it just opens the field more like
- 1:37:25Speaker 3: you said, it's one on one coverage. Defense doesn't worried
- 1:37:28Speaker 3: you get loose that way. I don't know if the
- 1:37:30Speaker 3: defense not change, you're getting up.
- 1:37:31Speaker 1: That way though, Like you just nailed it. For another
- 1:37:33Speaker 1: thought that ties in as like that's it can set
- 1:37:35Speaker 1: up that way for a lot. I like how my
- 1:37:37Speaker 1: builds are shaping out. I don't have to change too
- 1:37:39Speaker 1: much based on this news before I go build the
- 1:37:41Speaker 1: final set. But I will say it's not that different
- 1:37:44Speaker 1: of some other cases. Again cash games totally different. But
- 1:37:47Speaker 1: like DeVonta Smith without AJ Brown, Yeah, that's nice for
- 1:37:50Speaker 1: opening it up for him, and he's very talented, et cetera,
- 1:37:53Speaker 1: et cetera, but a lot of what he does is
- 1:37:54Speaker 1: because it's hurts Barkley Goddard, AJ Brown. Okay, Like, yes,
- 1:37:59Speaker 1: some of them are gonna get rolling, of course, but
- 1:38:01Speaker 1: when sometimes when some of these guys move out, it's
- 1:38:04Speaker 1: it does open up a little bit more, but it's
- 1:38:06Speaker 1: not always gonna be the ceilings and the outcomes that
- 1:38:08Speaker 1: we need. So we'll see how it goes here. But
- 1:38:10Speaker 1: I don't think the the London ownership was as high
- 1:38:13Speaker 1: to make like those guys move, like you said, for
- 1:38:15Speaker 1: this type of thing. You called that perfectly. But I
- 1:38:17Speaker 1: do think it's gonna change some of the composition for
- 1:38:20Speaker 1: how people are doing things out there and how they're
- 1:38:21Speaker 1: building and thinking. So you know, hopefully we put you
- 1:38:24Speaker 1: guys in a pretty good spot. You will do it anyway.
- 1:38:26Speaker 1: The two touchdown takes real quick this three year title.
- 1:38:28Speaker 1: Do you have a two touchdown take for today?
- 1:38:32Speaker 3: I got a long shot for sure plus twenty five hundred.
- 1:38:35Speaker 3: But well, tes Johnson action, you might see a nice
- 1:38:37Speaker 3: backflip in the AMA zone once or twice. I like
- 1:38:40Speaker 3: that game for him to get loose for that take.
- 1:38:42Speaker 1: Hopefully we're seeing two backflips because it feels like the
- 1:38:44Speaker 1: guy do one hundred. He's at least doing one per touchdown.
- 1:38:48Speaker 1: I don't think Hoop is gonna steal mine, but I'm
- 1:38:50Speaker 1: gonna run it out there anyway, because I saved it.
- 1:38:52Speaker 1: But I like Alvin Kamara two touchdowns, No, Kendre Miller.
- 1:38:56Speaker 1: I think it's definitely a spot if he either does
- 1:38:59Speaker 1: or he doesn't. But I think today's a chance for
- 1:39:00Speaker 1: him to have a big game. Hoop, what do you
- 1:39:02Speaker 1: got to touchdown? Take to end it before you get
- 1:39:04Speaker 1: out of here?
- 1:39:05Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're gonna hit on three different positions. But
- 1:39:08Speaker 2: I'm going to a similar team or the same team
- 1:39:11Speaker 2: as one of you guys. I'm going Kate Houghton two
- 1:39:14Speaker 2: touchdowns today.
- 1:39:16Speaker 3: All in that game. That just shows honestly, like that game.
- 1:39:19Speaker 2: That is true. Yeah, all in that game. That's our
- 1:39:20Speaker 2: game right there. That's going to be the winner New
- 1:39:23Speaker 2: Orleans and Tampa Bay. That's it.
- 1:39:26Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm going to have hoops too tight end
- 1:39:29Speaker 1: lineup because he's got Kate for two. Imagine Dalton Schultz.
- 1:39:33Speaker 1: He just didn't even mention him. Must be three for him.
- 1:39:35Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there it is. So we got to do something.
- 1:39:38Speaker 2: If somebody, someone comes up with the team that has
- 1:39:40Speaker 2: Camara Tesz, Johnson and Kate Oughton the highest scoring, if
- 1:39:46Speaker 2: it cashes the highest cash with that team, hit us up.
- 1:39:49Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we'll do. Tag us on x at
- 1:39:51Speaker 1: ship a nation with that high. If you think you
- 1:39:53Speaker 1: got the highest scoring team. As soon as someone posts one,
- 1:39:56Speaker 1: we'll put it out there. Don't post it before post
- 1:39:58Speaker 1: it after your score. Well we'll keep quote posting it
- 1:40:02Speaker 1: with the highest score for the team, and we'll do
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- 1:40:15Speaker 3: of his teams are all if they if they bust,
- 1:40:17Speaker 3: please don't post like two or three of those guys
- 1:40:20Speaker 3: bust like it's it's over.
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: That's the fun of it, that's the fun. It's still
- 1:40:25Speaker 1: fun scoring team all yeah, Okay, with the team stuber
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- 1:40:32Speaker 1: and just keep it stacking them up over the top.
- 1:40:33Speaker 1: We'll have some fun with it, all right. Any final
- 1:40:36Speaker 1: thoughts title before we get out of anything else, you want.
- 1:40:37Speaker 2: To mention No.
- 1:40:39Speaker 3: One of the best days of the year, like always
- 1:40:40Speaker 3: enjoy it, Good luck to everybody.
- 1:40:43Speaker 1: Hoop final thoughts before we get out of here.
- 1:40:45Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a good seven day stretch and let's
- 1:40:48Speaker 2: keep it going. The momentum is heading in the right
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