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STA184: 'ASK US ANYTHING! February 2024' · The STA Clinician Podcast

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You're listening to the Sports Therapy Association podcast, putting evidence
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back into soft tissue therapy.
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Music.
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Hey people, how you doing? Welcome to episode 184 of the Sports Therapy Association podcast.
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My name's Matt Phillips, creator of OneChatLive.com. And as always,
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this episode is being recorded live on a Tuesday, 8 o'clock,
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on the Sports Therapy Association YouTube channel and the Sports Therapy Association Facebook page.
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And I think actually this particular episode, I am also streaming to the Sports
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Therapy Association open group.
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So it's the first Tuesday of the month, and we are therefore bringing you our regular series,
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Ask Us Anything, in which our STA panel discuss a selection of questions,
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both emailed in to me, matt at thesta.co.uk, and also taken from the Marvellous
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Sports Massage Training and Support Group run by Tracy McLimmon.
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But first of all, a big thank you to last week's guests.
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It was a great episode. It really was. And it always is because that's how we
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roll in the show. But it was a really good episode.
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And we thank everybody who joined us live and everyone who's downloaded it.
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It's still getting downloaded loads.
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It was physios versus sports therapists. If you listen to the podcast,
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then you can't see the image of it on the screen.
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But if you are interested in seeing what comes up on the screen,
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then this is recorded on YouTube as well. The name was obviously Clickbait.
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You have to do it. You have to do a little bit of that to get people to download stuff these days.
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And what we had was a panel of physios and sports therapists from the MSK Hub,
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which is a great Facebook group on Facebook, funnily enough.
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And we just talked it through some of the arguments normally down to misinformation.
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Or lack of information about what physios do
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what sports therapists do a little bit of pride a
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little bit of fear all the sort of things which cause miscommunication and
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it's a great eye opener and the physios on the panel learned some
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stuff the sports therapist learned some stuff and from the feedback we've
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had a lot of the listeners learned some stuff and we'll
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probably touch on it it again tonight because one of the questions we've had emailed
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in is about that i'll just leave that as a hook shall
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i yeah i won't tell you what the question is but anyway if you
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do want to listen to that i do recommend you do because so many sports
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massage therapists sports therapists think they're
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great but i'm not a physio and it's always that
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in the background niggling away yeah i'm good not physio so
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if you like that then i would encourage you to listen to
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this and hear from the physios also if you're an angry sports therapist
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who doesn't think all physios are out to get you not all
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of them some of them are rest assured just because you're paranoid doesn't
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mean no one's after you but not all of them are a lot
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of them are very nice and they actually form an important part of
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multidisciplinary care and you be you really
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should have a physio or a couple of physios in your little circle who you can
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refer to who you will get referrals back from and so on okay so anyway check
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it out it's an all popular podcast apps and if you want to watch the video you
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can see on youtube and also of course all of it is is put on the website for
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the STA, which is thesta.com.
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Right. That's it. So as I say, tonight, it's going to be, I'm going to bring up the STA panel.
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If you listen to this or watch this, and you're interested in being on the STA
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panel in the first Tuesday of the month, then thank you.
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We'd love to have you up here. You will see that there's absolutely nothing
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professional about the show, particularly the guests I've got tonight.
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And you don't have to be nervous. It's going to be fine.
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And it's just a lovely chance for therapists to answer therapists.
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Therapists the only criteria is that you've got a decent internet connection obviously webcam mic,
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and and you've got a little bit of experience to share but
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even then you know we'd love to have on the panel somebody's relatively
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new because it's all about just sharing tonight we're all
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on a level playing field and just helping each other with our experience whatever
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that might be so just one other thing if
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you are listening via the msk hub
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then you no sorry if
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you are listening via the open group you will need
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to give permission to facebook for your comments to
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be out there okay so there is something in the
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notes what i'll do is i'll put it up on the screen now as well and
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i can do that quite easily i'll put that on there now and you'll
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see it you put it in once it basically just gives facebook or live software
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a permission to use your photo when it comes up on there so you can do that
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right i've left them down in the dungeons for long enough what i will do now
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is bring up the sta panel for tonight's episode first tuesday of the month ask us anything.
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Music.
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You're listening to the sports therapy association podcast evidence back soft
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tissue therapy there we go hey everybody how are you good thanks,
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don't forget it's podcast the case of waving just doesn't kick it on this show
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So you have to use your voice, believe it or not. There's one or two waivers there, thanks for that.
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So yeah, thanks for coming along. What I am going to do is obviously give you
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a chance to introduce yourselves, because as we kind of talked about off air,
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we do get great feedback from this.
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It's so nice for therapists to hear real life stories and maybe potential solutions
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to problems which are equally shared.
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So I really appreciate you coming along and giving up your time and everything
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which you're happy to share.
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So thank you very much. so what we'll do and let's give a
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bit more room on here let's just not forget the people who've
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come to join us live so brian huxley how you're doing and ivan
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ward is in here as well if you listen to podcasts then what happens if you
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do join us live then i can bring up your comments and questions onto the screen
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like glenn murphy how are you all doing we're doing great glenn tim allardyce
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rhymes with paradise is here as well most physios love sports therapist thanks
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tim that's really nice coming from you thank you very much thank you it's good
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to see tim as well so So, yeah, and other people are coming through as well.
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Thank you for joining us. It really makes a difference how many people join us live.
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Right. Introducing in no particular order, then I'm just going to ask you to
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say who you are, what part of the country you're in, in case any of our listeners
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want to kind of hook up with you and get some advice. Sound a bit wrong. We'll edit that out.
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Let's do let's let's have Mark first of all.
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So, Mark, introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about you. Hi, I'm Mark Leasdale.
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I'm, as Gary referred to in a podcast I was listening to recently,
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I'm one of the 5% who's left working as a sports massage therapist coming into
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my fifth year since first deciding to do it.
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My background is really around, and I do regard myself as being pretty new to it.
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I did 30 years in the police service and was looking for something to do towards the end of it.
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I was interested in run coaching, so I've been doing that for six or seven years,
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and also other sports coaching, including cricket. cricket.
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The sort of the setup that I work with now is that we bought a premises to do
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something else in, which was sort of hot desking and office rental,
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but there was space for a therapy room in it, which I've spent a little bit of money on.
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And I work there now, probably I've got about two days a week work.
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So I still regard myself as a part-timer, but we've taken over another premises
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that suffered under covid so i've got a couple of other therapists who come and rent the room for a.
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Day that's me fantastic and what part of the country was it again not sorry
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west wales it's easy for you to say what was it called again.
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I think it doesn't begin with a fur i know it doesn't give you the first probably
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a lure isn't it or something yeah it is it's got a double l at the start it's
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um it's sort of about 15 miles miles away from Swansea for people. Fantastic.
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That's great. We've got a lot of members down that way. So it's good to know
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where you're from. Right. Thanks, Mark. Thanks for joining us.
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Treadmill still working well.
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Well, no, my treadmill is still broken down. I'm sorry to bring it up.
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Let's not bring the tempo down now.
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It was quite upbeat there. I'm going to be just trying to move on.
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We'll go down now. I don't want to open up that can of worms.
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Right, let's move along. Sarah Clackworthy, how are you, Sarah?
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Yeah, I'm really good, thank you. Thanks for having me on tonight.
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So, Clackworthy, I'm from the south-west in Gloucestershire.
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I'm a sports massage therapist and have been since 2013.
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2013 so 11 years at level I'm now at level five I've always worked privately
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from home I've got this lovely lucky for me this lovely purpose-built therapy
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room mini gym that I use with my clients,
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but I do have a network of sort of physio, osteopaths and chiropractors I work
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with and refer to if I need to.
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My main sort of bread and butter is the running and triathlon community community
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i deal with a lot of those i've done that date analysis course just just that
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completed actually in in march so i work with a lot of a lot of those but but also just the general.
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Carpenters builders teachers and and anyone else
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that that comes along with some some pain or grumble i've
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the way that i've tried to advance myself over the years
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was by just adding my to my professional toolbox
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with lots of courses trying to keep myself up
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to date as much as my spare time allows it's
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doing things like listening to you guys on a on Tuesday
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night just trying to keep myself up with
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the the moving trends in our industry so yeah
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that's me brilliant thank you so much for that
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so you working did you say you converted your own house
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is it or your own own premises yes i'm lucky
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enough to have a room with a separate entrance which
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was very useful in the coded eras era
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but yes i should be working home that's great
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well get that it just reminded me actually you reminded me two things one i
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need to start sorting out the gate analysis course because that's coming
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up sooner than i thought for that yeah and a
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bit of those notes again and two we are
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going to have a whole month dedicated to kind of
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like panel stuff of of dedicated to different topics which.
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One of them is going to be setting up setting up in your home that
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the legal aspects of it whether it's in your garage in
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your home all the everything which people need to take on
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board so we might see you back for that then we'll do another one about setting up
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in a gym which will be renting stuff and then we'll do another one about mobile
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massage so we're going to do three of them because i think it's so interesting hearing
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for new therapists or therapists suddenly thinking
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well maybe i should do it from home because they want to hear from you guys
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so hopefully we might even have you back for that that'd be nice anyway thank
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you so much coming on right let's go down to dan hey dan how are you doing hi
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how are you i'm very well thanks for joining us.
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Yeah, thank you for having me. I can't believe people still want to listen to me.
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I am a sports therapist with an add-on of sports psych biomechanics.
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I run a clinic down in Sussex near to Gatwick called Body Health Gatwick,
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which has treatment rooms.
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It also has a gym space downstairs.
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I'm really lucky where I do rehab and S&C and now gait analysis. Plug in there.
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Yeah and yeah i've been going since 2012
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something like that and i predominantly used to
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work in football and now i have moved more
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into athletics uh specifically similar to sarah runners
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triathletes is my main kind of demographic but
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i work with loads of different sports in
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my unit to be fair but yeah probably more the runners and
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triathletes as a main main group excellent and
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you did a thing recently didn't you thing yeah I
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went to a sixth
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form college to go and plug sports therapy yeah
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so yeah and just say how wonderful it
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is and like hopefully for the next generation if they want to go into that or
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physio or something similar it was really cool it was a little bit terrifying
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being back at a school hall but they were very forgiving very nice and yeah
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really really lucky that they were quite engaging and asking questions.
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So that was quite a relief because, yeah, mass public speaking is not necessarily
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my first calling. So yeah, it was really good.
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That was great. I was really happy to see it. It was a great post and you looked
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really happy about it with yourself, which is great.
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And hopefully coming on to something like this, I don't know,
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did doing something like this help a little bit with the idea of,
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oh, people are interested in what I want to say, or did it help you up there?
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Just say just say no no yeah yes thank
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you I like to think a little bit the confidence
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helps because a lot of people they'd hate to do this
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no I am I really
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enjoy what I do and like I genuinely am really really passionate so I will speak
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to literally anyone who will give me five minutes of their day and yeah and
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I I'm a big believer as well of if you can do give back a little bit because
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it will work some cycles I never had anything like that when I was at school So if I can, like,
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speak to someone and get one sports therapist out of them, like, they're wonderful.
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Excellent. That's really cool. That sounds really good. Right.
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Moving on. Thank you for joining us, Dan. Over to Penny.
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Hi, everyone. So I've come from an education background.
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I was a teacher for, I don't want to say how long, for two decades and decided I needed a change.
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So I started doing a little bit of anatomy
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and physiology and pathology complete different language
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for me and been doing sports massage
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therapy since 2018 full-time completely
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left education and never looked
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back and I also
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did the maths course I just realized I'm looking.
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For the plug for me yeah you did a course that's
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fine yeah good so the running the running course
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course was amazing uh you're doing the right thing sarah i think daniela
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was on my talk about the course it's just
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brilliant and therapy now at
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level five so i'm basically a soft tissue
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therapist i don't quite understand the difference in the terms
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doesn't really matter so just you
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know helping people with their sport and you
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had a clinic or at home how do you how do i am working working from home yes
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i started straight away from home treating
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people and it's been great it's absolutely great
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amazing okay thank you thank you glad to be
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here thank you for inviting me an absolute pleasure and last
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but not least we've got gary who if people don't know is the founder of the
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sports therapy association hey gary how you doing hi matt
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and i'm the only one here who's not been invited onto your course but
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i have supported run chat
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live since since it started it's so it's all
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good well no i did the course up in lincoln about 25 years ago
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or something so you did it hasn't changed yeah i was
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trying to make you feel bad about it obviously didn't work no um yeah
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i just want to say happy birthday for last week to tim who's in the audience
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i think he was 30 last week happy birthday to him happy birthday to him yeah
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all fine at this end matt very busy talking to members i'm going to be out of
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office after tonight until friday late on friday and Jake's working remotely.
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But we are still dealing with everything, emails, Facebook messages, et cetera.
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Amazing. Right. Thanks, Gary. OK, so I think it's nice.
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I think it's important when we do get to the questions for people to have a
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little idea of where you're from.
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So you've got somebody who's started off and built their brand and is now and
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made it multidisciplinary.
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You've got gay and nasty stuff going on. We've got a few people who are at home.
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We've got people who started later in life.
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And it's nice because obviously all of that is going to give you different experiences
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and information to share.
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So hopefully there's someone on our panel who reflects what the listeners are
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doing, you the listener are doing.
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Doing so i'm going to bring up the questions i'm going
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to bring them on the screen for the people who've joined us live as well
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so you can see them then i'll also read out the whole thing some of
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them are anonymous some of them if i do read out the name it's because the person's
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given me permission to use the name i'm also
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very excited we got a which logo do you prefer later today for the
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first time on the show so we're going to analyze a couple of logos gary is
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just going to be salivating at that he loves his logos
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and business cards and you're like yeah brilliant so that's
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me coming up right so but i'm going to do them in order so i'm going to bring up
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up some questions now onto the screen so people join
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us live can see this going on so the
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first question the shortened version which you
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can see on the screen now is training for a massage therapist sports
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therapist or physio so it kind of ties in with last week's episode physio versus
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sports therapist the whole question was as follows gang you ready can i have
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people's opinion on further education after being a massage therapist i want
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to decide on training to become a sports therapist or a physio and that was
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from somebody at the sports massage training and support group.
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Common question anybody ever
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put that question to themselves or acted on it it's it's a question that i get
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asked fairly regularly matt i've worked in further education and higher education
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and what i say to people is if you're coming from a vocational background and
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you want to enroll roll onto an academic program,
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the academic establishment will probably want you to be able to evidence that
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you are returning to learning or you've got certain amounts of skills or the
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dedication required to complete the degree.
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So I would say look at the competencies for sports therapy and physio before
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you decide because, you know, physio is not the guarantee of employment it once used to be.
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It's no longer a funded degree that was bursaried by the NHS.
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So you're going to be paying student fees wherever and i
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think i saw this one on on one of the threads and i did put
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in there if a person wants to speak to me send sta gary a facebook dm or gary
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at the sta.co.uk and i'll just have a chat with them mark so a penny and danielle
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have you ever thought i need to be a physio i've got to be a physio have you
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ever caught your mind or i don't think any of you actually did it i'd be on no sorry.
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Oh sorry yeah so for for me because I went
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down the degree route it was common I would
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say a good like third of my
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classmates went on and did a MSK in physiotherapy
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or something else so I
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went down the sports science route personally I kind of fell into it by accident
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and I just went with the flow but yeah there has definitely been times where
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I thought oh maybe it would be an easier life etc etc but what I have found
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like Gary has said is actually it's not guaranteed employment.
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Either way like so it depends where you want
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to go like and I think you've got to ask your question what do
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you want to do and who do you want to work with because
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like you want to work in a hospital well then of
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course you should probably go down the video route you know
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and you could do both a bit more outside but
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if you want to work with more sporting people then you know therapy is
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definitely definitely more geared towards working with well for
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me it felt like it was like towards athletic people so
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I think the question you've got to always ask yourself is what is
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the end goal and like and like Gary
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said like research the course and what criteria will you fit in
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or would actually the level four five would
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that be a better way around around life that's
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great thank you Mark what were you going to say I was
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saying I sort of I'm still undecided actually because i've
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looked at both options a little
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bit longer than in england the welsh government were offering
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bursaries to train for physiotherapy and
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podiatry i think it was as long as you worked in the nhs for two the welsh nhs
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for two years afterwards i steered away from that really because i wasn't actually
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sure whether that is the work it was you know i was committing five years to
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it effectively by the time you've trained.
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So I'm still in that undecided learning phase and just sort of,
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you know, very similar to what Danielle says is what actually do you,
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what qualifications do you need to get the work that you want out of doing this?
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So at the moment, to a certain degree,
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you know, spending a lot of time studying, getting
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quite detailed qualifications isn't something that i
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personally need i i'm tending to try and pick up bits of cpd here and there
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and and actually sort of sit on my hands before making the decision in which
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direction to go with a bit more detail excellent so you're still tempted by
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the idea of of doing physiotherapy are you,
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yeah i am a bit because i can see the well the wider remit that they've that
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they've got but But my real interest historically has been around sports and rehab and,
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you know, and just dealing with that, you know, the results of playing sport.
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But I do realize that, you know, physiotherapy is going to provide a lot more than that.
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Also, at the back of my mind is my age, which is a big factor because I'm 55 now.
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And realistically, I want to work for 10, 12 years probably.
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So does it need the investment of three years of study to provide those remaining
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eight or nine years worth of work?
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So that's probably why I'd be steering away from it or I haven't made that jump.
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So when you see you're tempted by the extra from physiotherapy
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you like the idea of working outside of sport and working
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in hospitals in the different ward yeah yeah yeah and
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some people forget that because lots of
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my members of my family have worked in hospitals so doing different
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things i think that's such an important point which which sometimes
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we presume people know but we really when we say physiotherapy and
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sports therapy we really are comparing two pretty
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different things and as as Gemma was explaining from
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the MSK hub who's a physio herself and has championed multidisciplinary
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care a lot physiotherapists will do far
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less sports related MSK on the on the course than
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a sports scientist or sports therapist will because they're
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learning all about the other wards and places in
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a hospital they're learning all about the neuro and and working with
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children and working in and also all the other departments respiratory
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and everything so so it's really very different
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so like dan said you have to think what do i want to do do i
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want to work in different wards and be away from sport or do.
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I just want to work with sports people so two totally different
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careers which i think sometimes people get confused with
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and they set physiotherapy it's like well that's the best can
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i do that i need to get that when really it's like it's not
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what really after so penny and sarah
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it's a good topic have you ever had doubts i've had a recently
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i just i went on and googled can i get a
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master's in physiotherapy or something because i have so many qualifications
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in my background i want to do another three or four or five years
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in education again you know again like
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mark it's the age thing i you know how
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much can you invest i think that just reading at
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the question again it's not quite
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i don't quite quite know this person actually it's
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you know so it's does he mean or she does she
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mean like I want to do something because sports massage
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therapy is not giving me any you know pleasure at
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the moment I want to do something completely different or is the
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question about what's the next step after being a
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sports massage therapist so I can better myself and then
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videos and sports therapies are completely different modalities but they have
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overlapping qualities don't they including sports massage therapy so I agree
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with Daniela on the question they have to ask the question what is it that I
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want to be doing which types of people do I want to be helping.
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What's my target, you know, employment idea in a way before they,
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because it's still a title.
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If it's just about the title, there's no point.
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It all depends on why this question. And that's what I don't understand.
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So I think what happens when we have people come into this industry,
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and we've done a podcast in October about the changing face of qualifications
24:24
and how much the qualifications have changed in the last 20 years.
24:29
And i think what happens is because of the
24:31
limited scope of practice that that now comes with
24:34
the level three course of just administering or
24:37
applying massage in the sport activity content in pre
24:39
post and intravent and maintenance massage i think a
24:42
lot of people might feel a bit restricted and and
24:46
i know from experience that 18 months into my journey as
24:49
a sports and remedial massage therapist i wanted
24:52
to know more and i think that's a natural point where you've
24:55
worked with a different you know different clients different body
24:58
types different you know relationships with your
25:01
clients then you think okay you know i'm i'm either
25:04
not getting the results that i was promised from the from
25:07
my educator so i want to know more and i think the question in general is where
25:12
do i go next you know what are my options rather than specifically highlighting
25:16
i want to be a sports therapist or a physio great great points and people listening
25:21
live if you want to make share share your own experiences,
25:25
or if you want to ask a follow-up question, feel free to do so.
25:28
Brian Huxley, for example, has said, the bottom line is, if you want to work
25:31
in the NHS, the traditional physiotherapy is the route to follow,
25:34
especially if you're more interested in respiratory or cardiac rehabilitation.
25:38
Yeah, I think that's a key point, isn't it? And then Rachel Francis Thompson,
25:41
good to see you, Rachel, has commented, there are often inaccurate perceptions
25:45
about what physiotherapy is.
25:46
I get a huge volume of learners who say they want to be a physio but can't afford
25:49
or bear the thought of three years.
25:52
It's true. Yeah, it's getting more informed, isn't it? Which is the point of
25:58
these things, isn't it? It's the point of belonging to a professional association
26:01
who's going to give you unbiased advice and support and put you in contact with people who can help you.
26:07
It's asking around and getting a bit more information before you rush into something
26:10
just because someone else is doing it and you've got a bit of FOMO.
26:13
Good points, Rachel. Can I just say that? I think plenty of time to explore
26:18
many, many different areas of our business before you may take the jump.
26:25
There's endless courses where you can dip your toe in, find out areas that you
26:30
really like, bring some variation into your own clinic.
26:33
You don't have to just take a plunge and make a decision one way or the other.
26:39
I couldn't come to university for three years, for example.
26:43
So I just try and choose courses that sort of cherry pick physiotherapy,
26:50
areas of physiotherapy that I can bring into my clinic and offer to my clients.
26:56
So it's not always about, you know, taking those really big steps.
27:01
You can do it bit by bit and still be really satisfied with the product that you're offering.
27:07
Great points. Good points. what type of treatments i'm going to move on to the
27:12
next question sorry we're gonna have to go on because we've got five all right
27:15
let's move on no now i feel bad penny what you're gonna say no i just want to
27:19
say that basically what kind of treatment you want to offer to people,
27:23
because there are differences between the modalities but i think you know we
27:30
all struggle with the title of our profession and we feel inadequate and we
27:35
have the imposter syndrome going around all the time but ask your clients see
27:39
what your clients want what do they need.
27:42
Matt just before you move on i think
27:45
it's important to remember that you know
27:48
if we are a frustrated therapist and we're not getting
27:51
the the results that we expected in three to
27:53
five sessions you know we are a signposting this this whole
27:56
podcast come about we're a signposting service for people
27:59
you know it's not about the commercially
28:02
driven activities of the industry industry
28:05
to get you to do more courses it's about you identifying
28:09
within your client sort of
28:12
demographic how you will become better at treating them or dealing with them
28:17
and remember people are not motivated to buy services they're investing in outcomes
28:21
so anybody who doesn't understand that you're an sta member just book a call
28:25
with me and i can explain that or join us on one of our coffee evening chat
28:28
because that's discussed regularly,
28:30
Great. Yeah. Good points. Right.
28:33
We've got five questions. So we're going to move on to the next one.
28:35
I will make sure on the show notes that there's other podcast episodes connected
28:39
to these questions, which you can look at and listen to, depending if you go
28:42
to the podcast app of your choice or YouTube.
28:44
Right. Next question. Here we go. So this was rebranding slash renaming my business. Which logo?
28:50
The full question was sent in by Lynn Armitage Calvert, who's given kind permission
28:55
for us to have a look at the logo she's considering.
28:59
And this was again, a question in the sports massage training support group and
29:02
lynn says i've been qualified in trading for four years and
29:05
considering rebranding renaming my business my business
29:08
is going really well growing day by day but i just don't think
29:10
i like the name anymore or the logo i have torn between
29:14
what to do the first photo is what i have the second
29:17
is what i'm thinking of changing to so get
29:20
your thinking caps on what i'm going to do is i'm going to share on the screen if you
29:23
listen to the podcast then you're going to kind of lose out here i would
29:26
suggest you go along to youtube because you're just gonna hear scratching
29:29
of heads and comments and something you can't see but we'll try and describe it
29:32
and and as we're giving our reasons maybe describe what's on
29:35
the screen what you like or don't like so i'm going
29:38
to bring these up onto the screen now i'll bring
29:40
up the original logo which is what lynn has
29:44
got first i'll put it on full screen but we can still
29:46
hear you speaking behind it put that
29:50
there okay so this is the original one if
29:53
you listen to the podcast then how would i describe it we've got
29:55
a picture of a blue rhino we've got lynn armitage big name underneath sports massage
29:59
underneath long phone number underneath that and
30:02
then we've got a lovely alliteration at the bottom relieve restore revive
30:05
okay so we've got quite a lot of information on there that's
30:09
panel you can see that okay yeah yeah cool right this is what lynn has come
30:14
up with and she's thinking about changing it too or she's open for fresh ideas
30:18
so interested to hear your feedback this is there we go so for podcast listeners
30:23
um still got the blue runner which looks Looks like runners are kind of Lynn's bread and butter.
30:28
But now we've got a handwritten kind of signature, which says Lynn Armitage.
30:33
And then underneath in very small letters, we got sports massage.
30:36
Phone numbers come off and we've got rid of that. Believe, restore,
30:40
revise. So what do you think, people? It looks wicked.
30:45
It's really, really good. What I've found with rebranding is think about where it's going to go.
30:52
So if you want to print it on a t-shirt are you
30:55
going to be able to embroider it or will you have to
30:58
ask a really good point so keep
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it as simple as possible because so
31:05
minimal colors as in like only choose like three colors max because sometimes
31:09
you get charged more colors and obviously if you want to like so i've got mine
31:13
embroidered on my shirt so and and that was one of the key things it had to
31:17
be simple but this looks awesome i love that she's making her number off she
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doesn't need it. Yeah, it looks cool.
31:24
Okay so that's interesting i love the color recommendations in that and taking
31:28
the number off because it doesn't need to be on there if they want to get in
31:30
contact with you they can just go to google your name can't they or something
31:33
i guess yeah what are you going to say penny yeah.
31:36
I was going to say they i would expect the the first
31:39
one to be in a like a business card i wouldn't
31:42
i don't see that as a logo okay only
31:45
sorry it's just but the second one is it's really cool and
31:49
i can see that on a t-shirt but i don't know whether they that's a
31:52
good point by the embroidery i think then the
31:56
font might be a little bit hard to to work signature thing
31:59
yeah it's beautiful yeah it's really nice but
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my question is why why this need
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now to change the logo i think
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she was just bored with it she doesn't like the name yeah she
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said she hadn't for four years she's been
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training with it for four years and just wants to freshen it up maybe if
32:19
somebody said no don't do it keep it that might be an argument as well the
32:22
one thing is very important is to have what you do on your
32:25
logo so that's very clear sports massage that's that's
32:29
all it needs there yeah that's brilliant i don't
32:32
understand anything i want to hear from you guys i think if
32:35
you if you look at the font of the new one it's not as read off from a distance
32:40
and so if she's standing around a trade fair or something people are looking
32:46
for and she wants to be recognized they might find that a little more or difficult
32:50
to read than the clearer print on the first one.
32:55
I mean, all these changes cost money, don't they?
32:59
So you'd have to change your logo on every piece of promo material.
33:05
Be it flags or T-shirts, et cetera, all the paperwork.
33:11
So you've got that cost. True. Put it away.
33:16
Sorry yeah you've got to weigh that up haven't you it's a very good point
33:19
yeah is it worth the finance it's going to cost you
33:21
yeah yeah might be a website redesign uh require
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they're quite costly as well you know
33:28
if you've got something that's that is clear in the first place is there a need
33:33
for a change i like i like the second one it's a lot more modern it seems to
33:36
have been updated and as she's already known the clients and people in the local
33:43
area will recognize oh oh, that's Lynne,
33:46
she's changed her logo, that's great, we like that,
33:49
because I've seen that happen around here too,
33:51
and still recognisable,
33:54
it's just, yeah, they've updated,
33:56
so that brings with it the sense of, she's moving with the times,
34:01
and she's keeping an eye on the markets, etc., so yeah, that's good for her promo.
34:06
Good points, I like that, so yeah, people already know her, will still recognise
34:10
it through the runner, through the colours, they're very similar still,
34:13
is still that kind of like purple colour and the runner. Cool.
34:16
Mark, what are you thinking?
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I was just thinking, is the runner really the logo because that's her client base?
34:23
And whether that might just be restricting things a little bit?
34:26
I don't really know what the answer is.
34:28
But bearing in mind, I think we've all said we don't have a sort of a single
34:31
population client base.
34:34
There's perhaps an opportunity to...
34:37
Put something else there yeah i kind of think of what that would be at the moment,
34:42
but if her client base is all runners and that's intended for fun runs and things like that to,
34:48
display then then that works pretty well i remember
34:51
gary benson about 15 years ago saying i need
34:54
a different business card for the different places you go into because if
34:57
you're trying to get your golfers to come to you i haven't
35:01
changed my tune what i would say is that the
35:04
first squash track it you know the first one
35:07
makes more of a connection with the relieve
35:10
restore revive the second one i don't think makes
35:13
a you know a connection but i don't think having
35:16
your name on it having your title on it i don't think that's important i
35:19
think you need to do something that makes a connection with your demographic
35:22
so if i was lynn and i was having
35:25
you know a lot of runners i would have a different tagline for
35:29
runners and you know are you failing your pb be regularly
35:32
question mark with a picture of a run if I was trying to appeal to
35:35
golfers I would have you know do you want to hit
35:37
the ball 25 yards further so everybody it's
35:40
Lynn's been you know this for four years
35:43
now the majority of the people in her local area will know
35:46
she wants to I expect expand to different networks and you've got to make that
35:53
connection and understand the outcome that the individual wants you know whether
35:58
they're a golfer you know a high jumper who's knocking the bar off regularly
36:01
a long jump who's not reaching the sand pit whatever.
36:04
You've got to make that connection great points
36:07
and rachel here has raised a point which which kind
36:11
of makes sense to me as well it said um could one be a business card
36:14
and the other be the clothing logo because it depends
36:17
where it's going to be isn't it because like i can't remember who it was but somebody said if
36:20
you've got a t-shirt on and you've got that signature and the runner no
36:23
one's going to see who you are if they don't know you for it could
36:26
be a dancer or something you're not really straight away going to
36:29
know what that person's selling if it's on a t-shirt at an event or
36:32
therapy expo so maybe it depends where you're going
36:35
yeah from a
36:38
perspective of a designer right i would if
36:41
i were to play with the designing of this logo the new one i'm
36:43
talking about the runner would be smaller and the sports massage
36:46
would be bigger so it kind of like shows what she's
36:49
doing this is what i want to do i want to do sports
36:52
massage yeah and i had the
36:55
the same question as mark did with is it the target market
36:58
is it runners is she working with runners yeah yeah
37:01
yeah because imagine if that was a golfer on that picture or
37:04
a basketball player it would change completely good point yeah i purposely moved
37:10
away from a runner for when i rebranded because everyone's got a runner on their
37:16
logo you know who's a sports therapist or a physio like local to me I just wanted
37:21
to do something different,
37:23
so yeah like I totally agree sports massage needs to be bigger,
37:27
because but like something that
37:29
I went to on the expo and I can't remember who it was but they did say.
37:34
Logos are great but they are not the
37:37
be all and end all because unless you're something like tesco's which
37:40
is very recognizable doesn't it's
37:44
something that's nice and represents you and it's nice to header things
37:47
and it looks pretty but is it
37:50
going to go national like like really like
37:54
don't don't over overthink it do what you enjoy and
37:57
what's simple keep it simple it's my biggest thing i learned
38:00
that's good advice i like it okay brilliant
38:03
thank you thank you for your thoughts people brilliant we're
38:06
going to move on to the next one um lynn just to thank you for you for
38:09
letting us share that um i will give you a link to this as you asked to
38:12
listen to what our panel have said and there's
38:15
a question in the question map from facebook user how
38:18
does the panel keep things fresh in their own clinics
38:21
right keeps in trust what's that what kind of comfort
38:25
isn't it or what do you use oh i see
38:28
what they mean now sorry yes yeah how do you keep things fresh in
38:31
your clinics yeah i suppose they mean like in
38:34
terms of like i don't know
38:37
something new something oh guess
38:39
what we've got special today the natural thing is to want is to want to add
38:44
a service to your your portfolio your your skill set but i don't i don't personally
38:49
think that's the answer and i don't think we have to keep things fresh i think
38:53
you've got something that's working well stick with it go with it because people
38:57
are coming to see you if you've got a full full diary.
39:00
Nothing needs to change apart from occasionally you know redecorating and things
39:04
like having a new t-shirt.
39:07
I'm glad you said that larry because i was getting a bit nervous then
39:10
because i haven't changed anything for a very long time
39:13
but i'm lucky that i have
39:15
people coming in every day you know i have a full diary every
39:18
week so i did change my logo in the last four
39:21
years just went for a more up-to-date brighter
39:25
colors so that's another thing lean could
39:27
think of a step out of any color to hers maybe but
39:31
yes in terms of in terms of keeping dropping things
39:34
graphics going going away and learning new things that I can then offer people
39:39
in clinic especially your regulars who are who come in and say well you know
39:44
you feel comfortable enough to say do you want to try this today because I think
39:47
this would work really well for you I'd learnt it recently and pass it on to your regulars.
39:54
It's an interesting question isn't it like why do you
39:57
think I don't know Facebook user if you do want to bring your logo up and
40:01
your name the reason why it says as facebook users you just got to
40:03
click that link that i shared earlier on just to give facebook permission
40:06
to show it or you can stay as facebook user but
40:09
i'm just wondering what do you think because like
40:12
gary said sometimes it can be a slippery path you're
40:15
thinking right i need to do something new i need to change things around because it's
40:19
not that kind of industry is it you know sometimes change is
40:22
unnecessarily spend money and and really you should be
40:25
looking more at just kind of making sure that
40:28
the client experience is is tuned perfectly from beginning
40:30
to end and looking maybe a bit more operations rather than just
40:34
the whether it's fresh in clinic or not i'm not
40:37
sure if it answers the question but you know aside of
40:40
what you're offering i mean i'm spending money on a website being developed
40:45
at the moment which will link to a booking system so the customer experience
40:49
beforehand will and afterwards be very different good point but it's not it's
40:55
not significant around the service being provided it is.
40:59
I think posters and things are good. That's things you can move around.
41:02
And again, it was, who was it?
41:04
It was Andrew McCauley, who was talking,
41:09
I mean, we've talked before about how the nocebo effect of having stuff on your
41:13
walls, which can freak out clients, like the classic kind of old thing of like
41:17
a knee joint with a meniscus taken out on the shelf and the person with knee
41:21
pain is looking at going, oh my God, my knee's starting to hurt now.
41:23
Is that what i got there this big red blob you know the kind of nasiva
41:26
stuff but andrew in the episode was talking about how we can
41:29
actually get the other side we can get them bolstered up and feeling good
41:32
and ready for behavior change with some kind of
41:35
not too in your face but some motivational stuff on
41:38
the walls which gets people thinking i am empowered i can
41:41
do this things are going to be okay that sort of stuff so maybe
41:44
that can be something which could kind of freshen up
41:47
the clinic a little bit you know just thinking should we change the messages people
41:50
see when they come in i did like that thing from andrew because you
41:53
are affecting that that contextual effect is happening from
41:56
the moment they step through your door and look around the plants the
41:59
life you know everything they see is gonna you know.
42:02
Change their their happiness to change and listen to you
42:05
so maybe that's one way facebook user i've got
42:08
blackboards and i write things on it like motivational quotes on
42:11
it and every month they know they will change so they they
42:14
come back back every month and go okay what you've written down
42:16
now penny so they find that exciting that's
42:20
a nice idea we end up by the gate by the treadmill yeah always
42:23
just choking something up there and people just say what have you got on your board
42:26
today then yeah it's nice yeah it's good fine there you go thanks facebook thanks
42:31
for the question i hope that gives you an idea right let's bring up a question
42:35
from here what do we got we're going to move on to yeah let me just see this
42:40
came as well the short version nutrition alongside my sports massage such. Best place to study.
42:45
So this was a question which I like because I think a lot of,
42:47
I think it's a healthy question because if you do want to help your clients.
42:51
It's quite forward thinking to think, right, I can make them feel better with
42:54
massage and this and that, but maybe it is a nutrition thing.
42:58
I need to know a little bit about that, when to refer them on.
43:00
So it's a factor I think people working with others in pain should be aware of.
43:04
And the full question was, I'm thinking of doing online.
43:09
No, I'm thinking of doing nutrition consultations alongside my sports massage.
43:13
I was just wondering if anyone knows the best place to study this diploma course,
43:16
please. And that was anonymous.
43:18
So yeah, anybody got into nutrition, any recommendations i'm
43:21
currently doing gary mendoza's course the applied
43:25
nutrition and supplementation course and it's
43:28
it's mine but it's great it's absolutely fantastic the only
43:31
thing we need to be aware of is to what
43:34
extent do we advise clients on nutrition
43:37
within our remit because really why
43:40
do we need to do this course i'm doing it for personal reasons
43:43
i want to know more about things because i'm interested in it
43:46
but and sometimes my clients do ask me questions but i
43:49
do tell them look i'm not a nutritionist i'm not
43:53
a dietician there's the basic principles you
43:55
can follow but you have to refer on if it's
43:58
not within your remit so it depends what type
44:01
of qualification this person wants to get how advanced
44:04
and what for i think what's
44:07
happening here matt is it's another case of wanting another
44:11
string to my bow another tool for my toolbox i think
44:15
nutrition courses i'm nutritionally trained anyway it's great
44:19
for sharing knowledge you know you might be able
44:21
to say you know i've i
44:24
avoid tomatoes because they've got high high histamine
44:27
content and it just makes me itch all over so have you thought about this might
44:31
be you know something or you might be able to suggest a food intolerance testing
44:35
service or something like that but you know giving guidance it's the regulated
44:40
profession fantastic penny on gary's course sorry So I just want to check with Penny.
44:46
On Gary's course, do you go into how much when you know you've got to stop giving
44:51
information to the client or making sure that you are working?
44:54
I haven't got that far yet, but I am looking forward to that.
44:57
Yeah, it's just it's it's a lot of studying. It's quite a few modules. It's very interesting.
45:02
It's even a chapter on, you know.
45:05
What's the word chemicals and
45:09
stuff like that which i don't understand because i haven't done chemistry yeah so
45:13
yeah yeah it's great it depends on why
45:16
why this person wants to do this study what
45:20
for what is going to be yeah and
45:23
how are they going to market it as well is it how are they going to do that
45:26
yeah yeah how's it going to be marketed alongside what they're
45:29
doing already ready is this a completely separate little wheelchair
45:33
will it be standalone or are we talking about just
45:36
giving your client advice during the consultation path
45:39
of their sport master so a
45:43
useful way to think about this matt is what i suggest to
45:46
people is have a think of your last 10 clients you
45:50
know how many of the last 10 clients were your your treatment
45:53
sessions successful with and if you've got you
45:56
know if you can get that data and you know
45:59
through feedback back or recommendations let's just say that you were
46:02
you were successful with seven out of the ten and they've rebooked because
46:05
they've invested in your your service but those
46:09
other three how many would benefit from that nutritional guidance or how many
46:13
benefit from sticking a needle you know if you're doing dry needling or medical
46:17
acupuncture how many more benefit from from a kinesiology taping course or sticking
46:22
a cup on them and that's a useful way to think about it and Facebook users come
46:26
back, well, I'll let you deal with that, Matt.
46:28
But, you know, sometimes it's let the patient, let the client inform your ongoing study.
46:36
So if you're dealing with, you know, a high proportion of runners,
46:40
it's appropriate to go and do some run training, some biomechanical understanding courses.
46:46
But, you know, if your client base is perimenopausal, go and do some menopause
46:51
training. You know, let them be the judge, really, and the guide to you being
46:56
better with that main demographic, because we can't be everything to everybody.
47:00
And that's why I always say, who is your ideal client?
47:04
Excellent good advice as much as you can danielle you
47:08
work a lot with athletes and and you've done
47:11
sports science biomechanics yourself have you
47:14
needed to get more involved in nutrition
47:17
as well do you refer people on if you think there's a nutrition deficit there
47:20
or me personally not really but i
47:23
do know nutritionists who i can send people
47:26
to so yeah the question may come up like i
47:29
have very minimal knowledge i'm not a nutritionist is
47:32
the key line I'm there but yeah no it's it's
47:35
all about just just having people in
47:38
your little pool of like around
47:41
you so you can like call on them and just refer them on yeah
47:44
I don't have anything to add I definitely think
47:47
it's worth doing these courses to help with and we've
47:50
talked about this a lot of times being able to refer on
47:53
recognizing red flags recognizing disordered eating
47:56
which potentially you could you know go on to eating disorders
48:00
and and and also yeah just being
48:03
knowing how to suggest that to your client in
48:07
the way that they are actually going to seek that help rather
48:10
than going oh yeah yeah i'll book it i'll give them a call thanks very much
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you know so i think it's really useful particularly and it doesn't matter whether
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you're a massage therapist and you're thinking oh a lot of people coming to
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you potentially are going to need that signposting you know they could be chasing
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something they could have a pain which could be.
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Directly down to some kind of disordered eating or
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so i think it's worth doing it for that that is a good arsenal
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to have recognizing and referring on because then the people you're referring
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on to once they know wow this massage therapist and down the road referred this
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person to me guess what when they've got clients coming in with various nutritional
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problems they're going to say what you need is a good massage you need to take
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some time out go down to so and so so So could be a good business model as well,
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says me. But hey, what do I know? Let's move on.
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Just dismissed myself in four seconds. Right, moving on. Booking apps. What is it?
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4.54, no, 20.54. That's 8.54 in our language. Let's go to...
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No, I'm tired of booking apps. Let's go down to this one. This is an interesting one. Here we go.
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Hiring additional therapist. Is the subcontracting model effective?
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What's a fair hourly rate and commission split? So this was a good topic.
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I'd appreciate not everyone in the panel is hiring other people.
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But this question was from somebody in the sports massage and training and support group.
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And she did give me permission, I'm sure, to say this.
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I'm just looking for the name yes it was heather
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singleton and heather is saying what are your experiences in hiring
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additional therapists is this contracting model effective and like
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i said what's the what's a fair hourly rate and commission
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split for the therapist have you got i'm
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happy to i'm happy to start with this one what i would
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say in the first instance whether you're
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thinking of going to work for somebody else or in somebody else's
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clinic or you're looking to employ somebody else first first
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thing you should do is go to the hmrc website and
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google or google the employment status test
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by answering a number of
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questions and they're fairly
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general questions but it will give you an idea of whether your
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idea means that the it will
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be an employee or an associate because i know hmrc
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is getting a bit more strict on this recently because i've
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heard of clinics being investigated so you know
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self-employed or employee just
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go to the hmrc website type in employment status test and do that first just
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to clear yourself excellent great advice dad do you point at other people i'm
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in the process oh right tell us about it it's hard work.
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It's really hard a bit of advice that was
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given to me from from a client who was a business person
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was when you go down that employment route like get someone who's a little bit
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of you not everything of you and not 100 because if they're 100 of you they'd
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be doing what you do and it was like it because it stopped me micromanaging
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because it's my baby i'm you know my clinic so you know i'm I'm very protective of it.
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Yeah, so I'm in the process of looking for, if anyone's down in Gatwick,
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Crawley area, you give me a shout.
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Like it'll be a self-employed because they have to get their own clientele base, choose their own hours.
51:32
I can't fix them to a day at a time, like because otherwise I'd be employing
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them. So there has to be a level of flexibility.
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So I've got a friend of mine who's used to working recruitment actually.
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So she's really helping me screen some interesting CVs out as well.
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Yeah, think about what's going to add and the type of person as well.
51:56
I've had staff in the past, some wicked and some...
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Challenging to say the least and I think the rules are make yourself clear at the beginning.
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And something I learned a little bit the hard way was like when their staff
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although I'm pretty sure this has been like your thing that they're working
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under so make sure you're you're still the top of the the food chain as well
52:25
like so if you do need to say something you can,
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i'm i'm you know i want to be friends with all my staff but it can't be the best days,
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because if i need to say something i need to say something i
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was interested in what you said just then can i just go back to you
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said i mustn't tell them when they're supposed to work
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because then you do you move into a different kind of position
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and what's the effect of doing that so for
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clarity matt what a self-employed person
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working under danny's umbrella if
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you like they get their own clients they
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set the times at which they want to
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go in they set the fee and they
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get paid by the client and then they pay a
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an agreed split and that should be
53:12
contracted best advice is to get a contract and then they are officially self-employed
53:18
but if danny was taking the money and saying it's a 65 quid a session and the
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self-employed person was working working their hours with no responsibility
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then to get cover if they're ill, for example.
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Then it's a fine line between crossing over between staff and self-employed.
53:36
Gary, is there a third model, which is what we do, is that we just charge people a rate to use the room.
53:45
Yeah, absolutely. And I do a half-day, full-day rate, and that's what I'm trying
53:53
to steer clear of employing people.
53:55
What we're talking about here is a bit like the McDonald's business model.
53:59
They're not in the business of telling burgers. They're in the real estate business.
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You are not in the selling appointments.
54:05
Appointments you're in the room hire business and that's that's
54:08
fine to do it that way but you know i'm not an expert
54:11
i just keep up to date with what the hmrc is saying
54:14
and and and it's getting a little bit more tricky than it
54:16
used to be very interesting i mean and and the point she makes about what's
54:21
a fair hourly rate and and commission split i guess the hour rate depends so
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much on area and other businesses and that sort of stuff what about commission
54:27
split though is there kind of like a well again it's a it's about negotiation
54:32
that if you're going to get somebody or if i'm going to go in and work somewhere.
54:36
I went to work in a gym and they said, well, it's £500 a month rent.
54:40
I said, I don't want to pay £500 a month rent.
54:42
I haven't got the client base yet. So why don't we say, if I get between 0 and
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10 clients a week, I pay this much.
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If I get between 10 and 20 clients a week, I pay this much.
54:53
And have a negotiation, but always have a three-month and a six-month review period.
54:58
Don't always enter into a 12-month contract. Just
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to cover both parties really because danny doesn't
55:04
want to be stuck with one of those challenging therapists you know for
55:07
a year if that puts in the contract where you have a probationary period
55:10
or a review period it just makes things easier for both parties then excellent
55:16
good advice has anybody here got experience of working with this system under
55:23
someone else and it either working or not working sarah or mark or penny have
55:26
you worked for somebody else and kind of had a bad experience When I first started,
55:30
I asked around to find a place to start working instead of doing it at home.
55:33
But they wanted like a 30% of my hourly rate.
55:39
And I thought that was a lot, 30%. Because I just started, I didn't want to
55:44
charge a lot of money because I was trying to get clients in.
55:47
So then I just started working from home.
55:49
When I started, I worked at a flat hourly rate for someone.
55:53
But I was very part-time. I was one evening a week doing that.
55:56
And that would sometimes be one client or it could be four or five.
56:01
I guess with all of this, and I've learned this when I was employed by other
56:04
people, is get support and talk to someone else.
56:10
Sometimes people don't know their own value and they don't think that they should
56:13
turn around to the person who's saying, oh, yeah, I'll take 30%.
56:17
But this is, again, the idea of a professional association and people like Gary
56:20
who can call up 24 hours, any time at all. The number will be in the show notes.
56:25
And he will give you advice. He'll listen to your particular individual circumstances
56:29
and say things you haven't even considered.
56:31
So you know this that's what a professional
56:34
association is supposed to do give you that advice things you wouldn't
56:37
even think of yourself so and selfishly having
56:40
worked i've only ever worked on my own for myself
56:44
from home and and you know
56:47
i say i say to myself i have i have some jobs
56:51
that are going for sports massage therapists within a
56:53
clinic and once i hear the the figures and
56:57
how much they're going to take of my hourly rate when they
57:00
want me in etc and I think about the the
57:03
whole setup that I've got here already I
57:06
think why why would I want to change you know I can I
57:09
can work as hard or as little as I
57:12
want I take off the time when I need it it's just
57:15
incredibly convenient as long as you've got some
57:18
support around you because that was the biggest thing that led me
57:21
to a clinic was to have the support of other therapists around to question and
57:26
have discussion with etc so i've tried to build that out as you know out of
57:32
here now so yeah i've got i've got the in my opinion the best of the best in
57:38
all the worlds at the moment.
57:40
I think one of the services that we provide with
57:43
our fortnightly coffee evening chats with scott on the accountability sessions
57:47
with alex is that you don't have to feel isolated if you need to bounce ideas
57:52
off somebody come and join us every other wednesday 7 30 till 9 p.m and and
57:57
and mondays 12 to 12 45 i think it is but that's what we're here for that's what you pay your.
58:04
Very very low 60 pounds per random membership
58:07
fee for is to get you know to be
58:11
part of a network in a community that's what we want it to be the
58:14
facebook users come back matt have you seen that i
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think from reading that i think i'm looking at
58:21
this person as they might come from ireland because they've mentioned sports
58:25
therapy neuromuscular injury therapy and that used to be
58:27
a qualification in ireland which has been re-badged but facebook users
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if you want to discuss things more with me just send SDA Gary a
58:34
direct message and and and I'll try and
58:37
help you where I can but yeah I agree with a lot of your points about
58:40
you know the forever learning we should always be looking to develop
58:43
ourselves but you know my model is let my
58:46
clients inform me about what they
58:48
need me to be better at excellent good
58:51
points yes if there's anybody else in the comments section
58:55
who we haven't had time to read out your thoughts but thank you for
58:58
leaving them I just have to pick and choose depending on the
59:00
time and that sort of stuff but we appreciate you all sharing information
59:04
and it doesn't have to be the end of the conversation here this
59:07
is why I put it onto YouTube in particular Facebook stuff disappears if you
59:11
want the conversation to keep continue go to YouTube and put something in the
59:15
comments there because that will appear in Google results and conversations
59:19
can go on for far longer Facebook is probably the worst place in the world to
59:22
have a conversation because it just goes within a day something else has replaced
59:25
it it's never and see it again.
59:26
So YouTube is the place to ask questions and obviously I'm watching them and
59:31
I'll get notifications. So if you've got a question for one of our guests.
59:34
Or anybody, then leave it in there and I'll make sure that they get back to
59:38
you. I'll get back to you on behalf of them. So, right, look at that. It's 9.05.
59:41
Thank you so much, people. That flew by, as always.
59:45
There was a couple of questions here we didn't get to, but we may well bring
59:48
them up next time, the first Tuesday of the month.
59:51
If you're listening to the podcast and you'd like to be on the panel,
59:54
then if you're an STA member, I do make it for STA members because this is one
59:58
of the advantages of being in the STA, one of the many advantages for the low amount of £60 a year.
1:00:03
You so yeah if you like the sound of it it's and it's a great learning experience
1:00:08
as well you realize it's really not that scary and there's only 3 000 people
1:00:12
going to hear your voice once they upload this to a podcast app so yeah it's
1:00:15
not likely you're going to reach that many people so yeah if you've got any
1:00:18
questions about that regarding that then matt at the sta.co.uk,
1:00:22
and i can give you a little chat about that if you're thinking about coming up to the panel.
1:00:27
Next week we will continue with our specialist
1:00:30
guests i'm pleased to say that next week week
1:00:33
i can tell you it's going to be thracolumbar fascia
1:00:36
and lower back pain with a special guest claire boucher i think
1:00:39
it's boucher could be boucher i haven't spoken to a face-to-face yet
1:00:42
so let's go for boucher claire boucher who's a
1:00:45
lecturer of sports therapy and rehabilitation at canterbury christ church university and
1:00:48
a phd researcher at university of kent phd was
1:00:51
in this very topic so it's going to be a really interesting thing to
1:00:53
discuss that'll be next tuesday if you listen to the podcast at eight
1:00:56
o'clock and you can join us either on the sports therapy association association
1:00:59
youtube channel or the facebook page or the facebook group
1:01:02
whatever works for you and once again people
1:01:05
who joined us live thanks as well it's lovely to see you and thanks
1:01:08
for giving up your time and of course thank you
1:01:11
once again to mark bleasdale thank you for joining us sarah
1:01:14
clatworthy and penny and daniel
1:01:17
peters thank you very much for being in our panel people really appreciate it
1:01:21
anything to close gary yeah just a couple of things matt what we've got coming
1:01:26
up in forward plans for the STA team is we are producing some up-to-date resources
1:01:32
on regulation and we hope to develop that into one of these web chat podcasts.
1:01:37
In the middle of February which we're nearly at
1:01:39
now we will be launching in the
1:01:42
members area an up-to-date contraindication recognizing
1:01:47
red flags session that's going to
1:01:49
be recorded with Anna Maria and she's making that
1:01:52
that available to to the members and then another thing
1:01:55
that i'm asked regularly is about the the difference
1:01:58
between sole trader and limited company so i'm producing a resource on that
1:02:03
which will be a pdf and we will in the members area be inviting an accountant
1:02:08
to come along talk to our members so we can discuss the pros and cons thereof
1:02:13
exciting stuff coming up brilliant thanks going,
1:02:17
right so that's it if again like i say if you listen to the podcast you fancy
1:02:21
joining us live and next Tuesday we will be here at eight o'clock on YouTube
1:02:25
or Facebook but once again thank you to my panel for joining us for tonight
1:02:29
and sharing your time and hopefully we'll see some of you.
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Music.