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Talks to Ken Moss about his choice of Robot (2/4) · A Hamster With a Blunt Penknife - a Doctor Who Commentary podcast

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  Hamster with a blunt pen knife for doing.
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  Quicker, quicker. Hello everyone.
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  And a very warm welcome to another edition of Hamster with
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  a blunt pent knife. I'm Ken Moss.
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  And I am Joe Ford. Joe, what are we watching today?
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  Well. First of all, your voice is so
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  sexy. Thank you for doing that.
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  Secondly, we're watching episode two of Robot Tom Baker's debut.
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  Should we just launch straight into it?
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  I think we should. I've got the gin, of course.
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  Are you going to be paralytic by episode 40?
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  They're only double s. It doesn't count.
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  It's a driving gin. I was hoping you would be.
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  You know, let's see where we end up, as the giant robot is
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  actually one of the best Doctor Who's Yes, let's let's try not
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  to. Sure.
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  Bloody amazing. Oh God.
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  For a very brief period we did Doctor Who drinking games as our
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  New Year episodes and we decided we couldn't carry on with those
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  because we both have decent jobs and we want to keep them.
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  Doctor Who is absolutely lethal as a drinking game.
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  Pick something, we've done a couple.
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  We've done The Awakening, where you take a drink every time.
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  Will Chandler does a duck face or scratches himself and he
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  does. That like he's taking a selfie
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  all the time, don't he? It looks like he's not had a
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  shit for a year, but also. Every time Africa annoys you,
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  I'll be so drunk by the full circle Part one.
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  Oh, there isn't enough gin in the world, is there?
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  The TV movie is ruinous. I think that's the most drunk
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  I've ever been on a podcast. You have to take a drink every
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  time there's a clock on screen or someone says the word time,
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  which sounded like a good idea until we got to the opening
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  scene with Sylvester McCoy and the Gramophone Skips on the word
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  time. If anybody wants to start with
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  externals, please start there because it is.
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  Oh yeah, start start with the lowest common denominator, one
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  which we abandoned. We did record last year but we
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  it was just it was unusable. Was the keeper of track and for
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  a game we called on the Source and you take a drink every time
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  somebody mentions the source, and that's a lot as well.
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  Yeah, well, I'll tell you what come the end of that TV movie
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  One, you were so rat ass. I mean, I know what planet
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  you're on. I was laughing so much it was
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  joyous. Sometimes you can be utterly
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  nonsensical. And the chemistry is still
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  there. I was loving it.
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  Anyway, anyway, shall we tip into episode 2 on With the
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  Motley and in 321? Bosch, I have no idea where the
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  plots are at the moment. Oh, the robot's just been
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  unveiled. That's right, yeah, waving his
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  you. Know I think he's a he's a
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  costume that's very good in long shot like he's got a good
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  silhouette. It's like a lot of docs who
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  wants the second he moves? He's in a lot of trouble.
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  He tries to sort, you know, he's in action sequences in this
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  thing and he's seeing the sides of him.
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  He's fucking cumbersome. Well, he's got an oil leak
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  looking at that. Yeah, apparently she had to
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  reshoot that scene. You know, initially she kind of
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  looked straight at the camera and she went, I knew it's.
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  I thought that we didn't do that again.
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  Let's tone it down a bit, love. All right.
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  Do you know robots in general? Yeah.
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  They're not really my favorite thought stories.
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  No, I can understand why. Although I do remember being
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  absolutely terrified as a kid by the cleaner robots in Paradise
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  Towers. Really.
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  Yeah, I was. I wonder what I've been about
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  8:00 or 9:00 at the time. I don't know why.
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  I was scared by the robots of death.
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  You know, it's all very pretty silky spoken robots.
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  Yeah, but they're not really robots, is so Jarvie.
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  They're they're very beautiful robots.
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  You. Believe right when I did the
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  commentary on that and asked some questions to ask my guest.
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  Somebody came at me and said, would you have sex with one of
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  those robots? The painting is a very loose
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  picture of you, aren't they? I'll do anything to anything.
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  I'll have busted sofa and I'll ride that.
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  Would you shag Tom Baker's scarf?
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  Probably. Do you see that dreadful lamp
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  that they've got there? Do you remember when they were
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  in fashion, those white lamps, those sort of white, all those
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  globe things? Yeah.
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  Very 70s, mind you. There's that.
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  There were a lot of sort of design crimes in that decade.
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  You know, it's never occurred to me before.
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  Why is there a shaving mirror in a laboratory?
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  Look, your power is a very vain man, you know, like with this
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  quafuer breaks. Well, you fond a Poe.
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  Yes. You see I go through phases with
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  Doctor Who where I'll have I'm in a John Perry mood so I'll
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  binge a load of Perry stories and then go completely off that
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  and suddenly want Peter Davison or something.
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  So when I like purse we I like purse we when I'm that's a
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  that's a real wishy washy answer.
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  I did. I think as time went on he got
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  better at it. Although I look at some of the
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  season seven stuff and really love it.
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  Inferno is brilliant. He's still my favorite purse.
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  We he. Was about existential angst,
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  that cliffhanger to episode 6, where they're facing, you know,
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  the rolling lava coming down towards them.
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  I still think that's one of the scariest moments in the show.
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  Well, imagine seeing that as a kid.
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  Take the CSO out of it. And yeah, you're too young.
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  Thank you. Oh, no.
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  Oh, so you mean going out live? None of that.
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  That's why it's have VHS as Charles, although it does have
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  that Lord Hohor moment in it who thought that was a good idea.
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  It's that John Pert, we on the radio.
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  Yeah, there's certain voices, and I've said this about Big
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  Finish, looping back to it, as I do a lot.
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  They're just too recognizable. Naming no names, but you just
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  can't disguise your own voice when you're that recognizable.
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  I don't care who you are. Even the great John Coulshaw,
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  you still know it's him. Yeah, although I do love his
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  poetry. He hasn't.
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  He's only another few, but when he does poetry, he's clapping.
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  He's a bit closer than Tim Trillo.
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  I think it's the biggest problems with Nick Bricks.
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  He's so synonymous with all of the podcast and the special
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  features. You know, you hear his voice so
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  much out of the stories and he's does so much acting in the story
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  as well. Some people call it acting.
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  Yeah, Gosh, man, you're in. Look at the Yeah.
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  Now coming back to robot. Look at those limp wrists.
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  Could they not have given them a better sort of.
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  Hello Flippy Flappy I will kill. Because he's quite imposing,
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  yeah. And it's a good costume.
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  I mean, it's very metallic, whatever it's made of.
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  It's a good robot costume, but it is danger, Will Robinson.
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  My hooks are flailing wildly. Now there's a robot that I loved
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  from my child. Well, that metal Mickey.
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  Oh, actually. And what's the one called in
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  Buck Rogers? Was that tweaky?
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  Yeah, George. Yeah, all those cute little
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  robots that you hate as an adult but love as a child.
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  Oh, that robot. That was a bloody sex pest.
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  Go around fondling people's asses.
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  That was weird. Didn't it have like a gold
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  female version as well? I have no idea.
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  That was wrong on many, many levels.
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  I'm basically saying I likes all the robots out of dogs.
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  Who rather than the ones in actually do you know what?
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  I'm gonna compliment the direction here because the
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  director had that camera very low over Sarah Jane's shoulder
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  looking up at the robot, and she's just feeling his nipples.
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  What? They're having a romance, Ken,
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  but I agree with you on that. That is a beautiful shot and
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  it's really well lit. You know Patricia Maynard in the
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  background there as Winters? She is the spit of my mother.
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  You know, in the 70s she had those massive Deirdre Barlow
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  glasses just like that. I mean, she wasn't a Nazi, but
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  she was terrifying all the same. I do like a female villain,
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  though. Well, we were on last episode
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  about female Doctors because I said that I wasn't happy that
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  Jody Whitskey, you know, revealed she was a female
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  Doctor. No, we didn't.
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  Likely can't do this. I've said in the past that I
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  didn't particularly warn to her as the Doctor, but I don't think
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  that that means. That's not to say a woman
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  wouldn't be good at it. I would have loved to see
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  somebody like I've forgotten a fucking name.
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  The. The Queen.
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  You want to see the Queen as the Doctor?
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  What's a damn? I am appalled at myself.
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  You mean Olivia Coleman? No, I like the queen in the
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  film. She's one of the best actresses
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  of all time. I know you.
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  Mean. I can't think of that name
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  either. Not Judy Danger.
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  Contemporary Helen Mirren. Helen Mirren.
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  She would have been awesome, as Doctor Who do.
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  You know what? I do feel like the names they
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  bandy about are just so obvious, you know?
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  And I'm like if it's gonna be a woman, make it less obvious.
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  And you know mad eccentrics. You know if you'd be with a
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  bridge and. There's that really crazy movie
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  actress that everyone always suggests Julian Ants and people
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  like that, you know? It's just too obvious.
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  Phoebe Waller Bridge I can actually get on board with.
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  I think that she probably does have.
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  You see, it's all a lot of it's to do with eyes and teeth.
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  You look at pretty much all of the Doctors that my favorite is
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  still Capaldi. I love Capal.
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  My all time favorite doctor is actually Paul McGann, but my
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  favorite new Who doctor. As well.
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  That's his favorite, too. Yeah, I just think he's just got
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  something about him. It was.
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  That's my personal golden age of Doctor Who, the TV movie to
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  2005, period. That was bliss for me.
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  But Capaldi is by far and away my favorite of the new Who
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  Doctors. And it's all done with The face
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  and Tom Baker. A lot of it's the face.
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  Yeah. You know, with Jodie Whittaker,
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  I don't agree with this, but I have heard other people suggest
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  she's like dead behind the eyes. There's nothing going on in the
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  face and that's half the problem.
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  I don't know. I agree with that.
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  Oh, I don't think I agree with that.
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  It's a bit harsh, Lexi. It's nothing to do with her as
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  an actress. I'm sure she's been another.
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  Well, she must have been another.
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  Things have been wonderful, otherwise she wouldn't get the
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  gigs. But like Joe Martin, she's a
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  good actress, but she's not doctor material.
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  It's like when they trot out people like Chris Marshall,
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  Patterson, Joseph, you know they're not doctor material.
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  Although I say that about Patterson Joseph, I saw never
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  wear recently thanks to Simon Exton and he is perfect doctor
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  material in that. Never Wear is like a film camera
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  away from being excellent that the father is shot on video.
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  Well, I said this at the time. That's a forthcoming X and Moss
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  episode. If that had been done on film,
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  it would be an outright classic because I don't remember it and
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  it was precisely the time when I would have been watching that
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  sort of thing. And if only had been done on
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  film. And I've always said the same
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  about Doctor Who. If it had been done on film, it
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  would have polished a lot of turds.
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  Yes, well, you've only got to watch.
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  I know you said you didn't like first episode of Spirit from
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  Space, but it does look glorious.
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  Well, remember Simon first brought around the Blu-ray of it
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  and we couldn't believe it. He'd not seen it at that point.
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  We put it on and we were both sat there.
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  Fucking hell. Well, I don't know if you
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  collect the Blu rays, but the film sequences on some of those,
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  like they just brought out Nine and Casa Paladon.
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  The film sequences on that look stunning as well.
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  It would have done a lot of good, I think.
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  Look at those diner Rigg seasons of The Avengers that were all
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  done on film. That's just beautiful.
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  He was Professor Watkins, wasn't he?
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  In the invasion. Invasion, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah. This is a far more sort of
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  overtly comic performance than that was.
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  I think his daughter's kidnapped and that.
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  Isn't she that wonderful? What's name?
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  Isabel. Yeah.
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  Hey, you stinking Rich. I loved her.
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  You can't lose a wall, can you? Oh, there's some great clips.
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  It's worth your time. If you're in any way interested.
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  Those are proper child molester glasses.
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  Is putting me off. There's some cracking Doctor Who
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  colorizations, and one of the best clips I've ever seen is the
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  opening few minutes of The Invasion.
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  And it's on the Doctor Who Colorizations Facebook page.
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  I think it's my lad called Jack Wengro and the Marvelous.
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  Hang on, the opening few member, the first episode is missing.
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  Is it the opening episode of Two when they're being chased by the
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  car? Might be No.
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  It's when they drive onto the plane and they meet the
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  Brigadier. Oh, yeah, OK, Right.
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  I'll go and seek that, but it's beautiful.
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  You would never know it was black and white.
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  I'm a big fan. I want all Doctor Who to be
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  colored. I think it would be I.
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  Agree with you, I was just about said.
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  You know if you can extend? The audience.
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  Because there's some people that just won't touch black and
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  white. You can make things more
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  accessible for an audience. Now why wouldn't they do that?
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  And I know some people are just curious and insane, but I'm
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  talking about Ian Levine. Ian Levine once wished me dead.
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  Did he? Yes, he did.
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  It's lost in the midst of time what it was that I said to him.
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  But yes, he wished I'd never been born, that there's no
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  bigger accolade than being insulted by the Cosmic Lemonge.
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  I think we're doing something right though.
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  You know when if you're pissing him off, you're doing something
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  right. I mean, the guy's A colossal
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  bell end and no kudos to the guy for finding all those lost
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  episodes. I will never take that away from
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  him. But I do wish that he'd come out
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  in public and say there will always be 97 missing episodes of
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  Doctor Who, because the second he does, one will turn up.
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  That's. Exactly what happened before,
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  wasn't it? Yeah, that reaction to do it,
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  obviously one of my great pleasures is, first of all,
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  they'll announce something, you know, in the Doctor Who world.
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  And then I'll skip over to Twitter and see his reaction to
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  it. And that's my other pleasure.
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  Just the froth leaking out of his head, not.
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  Sure, you know. The caps lock button on his
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  keyboard can handle it, you know, because nothing states
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  sane mind better than a hosting capital letters.
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  Well, actually, all it really states to me is a sense of
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  entitlement that isn't really there.
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  Oh God, I love the man money. They all go a bit loopy when the
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  Missing Episode Hunters. Phil Morris, he's another one.
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  He's gone a little bit bandy. And you think you don't need to
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  be like this, mate, we're on the side here.
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  But you've not done yourself any favors by teasing Doctor Who
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  fans that you might have something you don't have.
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  That's. Like they they feel like they're
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  like the second coming, but it's the second coming to a very
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  select group of weirdos. Yeah, socially inept.
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  So it's it's a kind of celebrity status in the most niche way
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  possible. That's why I say about
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  podcasting, there's no status in this at all.
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  I said this year of mine, if there's a letter below Zed,
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  that's where we are. Yeah.
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  I've got a question for you. I want to ask you about UNIT,
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  right. Yeah, because this is where UNIT
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  is effectively ditched, isn't it?
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  We have the Arkin space next and we're going to run our stories
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  and we see them a couple of times next year and then they're
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  gone. One, do you think that that was
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  a sound idea, exiling the docs and bringing in Unit?
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  And two, do you think it went on a bit too long or it sort of
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  stopped at the right time? I don't think UNIT fits this
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  very well at all. I can understand why it's in
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  there, but I think it was probably a good idea to phase it
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  out. It fit Pertwee's doctor very
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  well and I think the whole UNIT family during Pertwee era, that
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  worked really well, to the point where actually when he did
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  finally get off Earth, it felt weird to see Pertwee in other
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  scenarios. Offworld.
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  Yeah. Did he go on too long?
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  Possibly, But no. I wasn't sad to the back of it
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  in the Tom bakery. I don't think it would have fit
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  at all because you basically you're containing Tom Baker is
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  never going to work really, is it?
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  I. Had somebody called him the
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  other day, like a creative anarchist?
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  You're right. You try and box him in or, you
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  know, put him in a tick box, it's just not going to work, is
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  it? He's just going to fly and it
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  might be terrible, it might be amazing, but he's going to do
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  his thing. I read a book a couple years ago
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  called What If? And it was all about ridiculous
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  scientific theories. Like how hard would you have to
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  slap a chicken to cook it with one slap?
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  And then what would? What would happen if you put an
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  indestructible hair dryer in a sealed box and left it switched
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  on, and eventually this this hair dryer?
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  Assuming that it's indestructible and the box is
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  indestructible, eventually it'd be so hot that it had started
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  bouncing around and every time it bounced it would blow a hole
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  in the planet the size of 20 nuclear bombs every time it
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  landed. It was great, that a.
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  Fire tomorrow. That sounds great.
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  That's what Tom Baker will be like if you kettled in all that
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  madness would. Containing that level
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  eccentricity would be the end of planet Earth.
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  Although I've got to say, I've never been a big fan of this
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  iteration of his costume. I don't like the woollen waist.
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  I mean, I don't like woolen waistcoats to start with.
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  I can see where they were going with it, the whole Bohemian
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  look, but once you get to Seeds of Doom level neatness, I much
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  prefer that do. You know that oatmeal coat that
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  you wear? Is that Seeds of Doom?
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  I think that looks terrific. Well, they hadn't without a rack
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  full of different coats. And they discuss which coat
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  suited that story, which is why it changes a lot.
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  Asking that question I'm just like.
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  I really love Nicholas Courtney as the Brigadier.
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  I think when Tom Becker says he's like the awful low, you
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  know, the person who, he can't see the joke in anything and it
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  makes him the funniest character of all.
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  I think he's great, but he does feel like he's just hanging
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  around now, you know, like. Oh, here we go.
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  Here's Harry doing his very best.
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  John Steed Oh, he does look very steed lines and very handsome
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  with it. Yeah, he was bisexual.
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  You know, I only learned that recently.
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  Oh, yes. Yeah, and I believe his wife was
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  very supportive when he finally said he was.
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  Because there's a man who really does need a good biography.
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  Because I feel it would be a very sympathetic 1.
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  Like you cannot believe he was an extremely smart man.
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  Oh, you are full of compliments. This Layton tells the story
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  about him walking up and down the rehearsal room, right?
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  And he just went back and forth, back and forth, and she's like,
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  the hell is he doing? So she eventually she went over
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  and she said me and what are you doing?
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  And he went, oh, I'm just trying to figure out how long it would
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  take me to walk to Norway in footsteps.
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  And she goes, and he was genuinely working it out like a
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  bloke. I want to know.
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  And I all look out to him. And Tom Baker had a terrific
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  relationship. Oh, they went on holiday
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  together and that's where they wrote Scratchman and.
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  Have you read it? No, I haven't.
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  And because I want to get the audio book version.
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  Oh, is this where Tom Baker types like?
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  The music goes knocking on that. Yo, the strange thing is, is
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  that sort of comedy music that's late John Purt where you know
• 20:07
  they have a lot of moments like that.
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  You head into the arc in space, the tonal shift, then you would
• 20:13
  never have a scene like that in the arc in space our the stories
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  that come after. So this really is like a last
• 20:17
  gasp, isn't it, Of yeah. Most of the classic Doctors have
• 20:22
  had that sort of hangover set of scripts.
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  We've got them lying about and polished this one off.
• 20:28
  It'll do. Those are four episodes.
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  See you next week. This is Terrence Dix who You
• 20:34
  know let's let's never forget his contribution to Doctor Who.
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  I think it's it's vast, but I don't know.
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  I mean, I do like this script. I think it's quite funny and
• 20:42
  there's lots of character beats in it.
• 20:44
  It's paced. Well, yeah, it's not boring, but
• 20:47
  hero, State of Decay? Hero Horror of Fang Rock.
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  The Five Doctors like he did write better scripts than this.
• 20:55
  Yeah, I mean Horror of Fang rocks up there.
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  I you see, I never really asked this of another Doctor Who fan.
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  I think possibly Simon. I must have done at some point.
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  I watched certain stories at certain times of the year.
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  So horror Fang rock is wonderful on a cold, rainy day in winter.
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  I don't know, something like Planet of Fire on a nice hot day
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  or something. Or K9 and Company is very
• 21:22
  definitely a Christmas Eve thing for me.
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  But what about you? It's what I call the time place
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  element. I well, you were over asking me
• 21:29
  two things there. You were over asking me to watch
• 21:31
  horror Fang romp with you on a cold, rainy day.
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  Or you were asking if I'd do the same thing I do, actually, yeah.
• 21:37
  When I put my Christmas tree lights up every year, I don't
• 21:40
  know why. I'll turn all the lights out and
• 21:43
  just have the Christmas tree lights on and watch Planet of
• 21:45
  Evil. For some reason it's just super
• 21:46
  atmospheric in the dead of winter.
• 21:49
  I haven't got many stories. I do that with no.
• 21:52
  Neither have I. No like the Romans and things
• 21:54
  like that. Sort of sort of hygiene
• 21:55
  comedies, spring, summer stories, City of Death maybe as
• 21:59
  well. Holes of nine on things like
• 22:01
  that. What is it?
• 22:02
  You said you call it again? The time place element.
• 22:05
  This is the sort of thing you can come to expect from the
• 22:09
  externals experiment. There's a Jingle in there
• 22:12
  somewhere. Oh, I love my jingles.
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  Oh, this poor robot. He's trying so hard to.
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  Love me, love me. Let me twat you first.
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  Excuse me. I've been there, you know.
• 22:29
  Watch how he does twat him. Now look, lie me.
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  Fuck off, that must have hurt. Do you know the most painful
• 22:40
  thing I've ever seen in Doctor Who is in caves of Andrazani?
• 22:46
  Sharis Jack gives the doctor a proper whack on the the throat
• 22:52
  and you can hear it. Yeah, yeah.
• 22:56
  Yeah, and you can see in the scene afterwards, Peter
• 22:59
  Davison's eyes watering. He's on the floor and he looks
• 23:03
  that that is not acting. That guy is in serious pain.
• 23:07
  I don't care if you're a fucking ballet star.
• 23:10
  You hit me like that again, You are going to know about it.
• 23:17
  After when this scene is over, I'm going to rip your fucking
• 23:19
  Jacobs off. When you said that, then do you
• 23:23
  know what I think seems like the the the bit that hurts the most.
• 23:27
  Do you remember the bit where he twists Scorby's neck in Caesar
• 23:31
  Doom? Oh yeah, and you can You can
• 23:35
  hear the bones coming. That's just an effect, but it
• 23:40
  looks painful. Yeah, and he does it so sort of
• 23:43
  quickly and casually and unexpectedly.
• 23:45
  And it's just you'd never get away with that in Doctor Who.
• 23:48
  Now that's such a violence. Or do you remember the Tom Baker
• 23:51
  being shoved into all the bins in that one as well?
• 23:54
  Again, that's another one I've watched not long about.
• 23:56
  Seeds of Doom. A Seeds of Doom is up there
• 23:57
  with. It's in my top five certainly
• 24:00
  Baker stories. Oh, it's great.
• 24:02
  When that limp tentacle comes through the ceiling and attacks
• 24:05
  them all, it's just glorious. I found on that, though there's
• 24:13
  an isolated music track, so you can play Harrison Chase's Green
• 24:18
  Cathedral music as an isolated track.
• 24:23
  Well, send it to me or I'll try romancing with it.
• 24:27
  Maybe I could read some poetry over it.
• 24:29
  I could play all day in my green cathedral.
• 24:33
  Use that line as well. Well, OK, that was the Marvelous
• 24:39
  episode 2. Are you ready to join me for
• 24:41
  Episode 3? I think we shall.
• 24:43
  Well, I'll go and refill my glass and then we'll run Vt on
• 24:46
  episode 3. Let's do that.
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  Hamster with a Blump pen mite for doing.
• 24:53
  Quicker, quicker, quicker.