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Inside the Sooner Family - Mike Boganowski Talks Oklahoma Sooner Recruiting & Why Oklahoma! · Sooner or Later Sports

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  Speaker 1: What's up everybody today we have I'm kind of honored
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  Speaker 1: about this one too, Mike Boganowski. I'm honored. I am honored.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Boganowski, father of Michael Bogganowski, freshman soon to be
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  Speaker 1: monster safety, the Boga Man, Boogeyman, Bubba Yaga. Mike, how's
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  Speaker 1: it going, sir?
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  Speaker 2: I can't complain very blessed anciently waiting football season. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I haven't been this excited for a football season in
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  Speaker 2: a long long time.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty four days, we got twenty four days until kickoff?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, well man, I.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate you joining here. And before we start, I gotta
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  Speaker 1: it because sharing is carrying. And so Mike, let's go
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  Speaker 1: back to the beginning. You know, whenever we have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: children who show any athletic prowess, the we start as
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  Speaker 1: as parents to start to kind of go man, I
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  Speaker 1: see a little something here, and so uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you may see a a John Lynch or you know,
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  Speaker 1: just a monster safety and your son. It doesn't always
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  Speaker 1: turn out that way. So when was the first time
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  Speaker 1: that you were like watching Mike and you were just like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 1: I think I got myself a football player.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think I I think I told
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  Speaker 2: the story uh with sooner legend first time I ever
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  Speaker 2: hopped on a pod. But I was stationed in uh
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  Speaker 2: at Fort Benning, Georgia. At the time, it was named
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  Speaker 2: Fort Benning now it's Fort Moore. That's Columbus, Georgia. So we, uh,
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  Speaker 2: we signed up for football. I believe it was his
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  Speaker 2: kindergarten year. So they we played in the Columbus Hut
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  Speaker 2: Football League for the East White Cherokees. And I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the first time he put on pads and
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  Speaker 2: there was some tackling going on, uh, he kind of
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  Speaker 2: blew up a kid and I was like, huh, like
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  Speaker 2: he ain't scared of tackle, he ain't scared of contact.
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  Speaker 2: And that was my first little like spider sense going
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  Speaker 2: off for like, wait a minute, now I see that.
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  Speaker 2: And then you know, just as you know, the year
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  Speaker 2: progressed you know when he was in kindergarten, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like how much stock can you put in
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  Speaker 2: the in the kindergarteners, you know, they're out one here,
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  Speaker 2: living over here, ketch trying to pick Daniel lions one
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  Speaker 2: minute and looking at flies, you know. But he always
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  Speaker 2: had a knack for the ball. You know, at that
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  Speaker 2: age a lot of deception. You know, maybe reverse or
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  Speaker 2: something like that is an automatic touchdown, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you can pull that off. But he
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  Speaker 2: always had that that he snipped it out, you know,
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  Speaker 2: And it's just to me at at that age what
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how old that is, I mean what
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  Speaker 2: seven eight? Maybe? It was always remarkable to me that
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  Speaker 2: he could just see it and he just snipped it
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  Speaker 2: out all the time. And you know, he's got a
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  Speaker 2: knack for the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Now where does he where does he get? You know?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: The athletic background is that? Is that from you? Is
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  Speaker 1: that from mom? Uh? What what was your background?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's both. I think it's both. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I was a three sport guy up in Nebraska, up
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  Speaker 2: in the Omaha metro area, went to Bellevue West, same
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  Speaker 2: high schools as kateen Elms I was a three sport guy.
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  Speaker 2: I was an all state football player. Did I was
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  Speaker 2: did well at basketball. You know, I was the six
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  Speaker 2: foot four center, you know, a big guy. Wasn't wasn't
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  Speaker 2: doing anything much after high school, but you know I
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  Speaker 2: helped my own I really loved baseball, like playing baseball,
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  Speaker 2: but you know football is better at football, and you
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  Speaker 2: know they get first crack at you coming in, you know,
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  Speaker 2: coming into your senior year, and so you know, football,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I was that was my best sport,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, I really loved baseball. My wife, she
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  Speaker 2: is a college tennis player. She originally uh she's from
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  Speaker 2: Trinidad and Tobago down on the Caribbean and she played
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  Speaker 2: tennis at Grandblain State University. Okay, so there's some athletic
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  Speaker 2: backgrounds from from her too.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's not bad. That's not bad at all. And
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  Speaker 1: I heard, I hear that you're a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a frisbee golfer. Is that is that a false rimmer
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  Speaker 1: or is it?
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  Speaker 2: Never? Never done that? Never never? I Like, I love golf.
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  Speaker 1: Now, okay, maybe maybe that was I heard you were
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  Speaker 1: a golfer and you could spin it. So I just
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  Speaker 1: went frisbee golf, but that's not technically a sport.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never I think my shoulders are too bad
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  Speaker 2: for that. I don't know how long last that long.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, so Michael's you know, you see him
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  Speaker 1: as a kindergartener, those things start, you know, he starts
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  Speaker 1: showing out, he shows some athletic ability. When did you
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  Speaker 1: guys decide his parents to you know, start fostering that
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  Speaker 1: that athletic ability and that that football capability.
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  Speaker 2: You know, my kids they play all three sports, basketball, baseball, football.
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  Speaker 2: I got three boys, uh went three for three, very lucky.
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  Speaker 2: But they don't have a choice, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: They're playing basketball, baseball, football. They're not gonna sit at
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  Speaker 2: home play video games and be on the phone. So
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  Speaker 2: I've always fostered that, like it's just a way of life.
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  Speaker 2: Goganowski household. But you know, when we moved to Kansas,
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  Speaker 2: we were playing a team out of Salina, Salina, Kansas,
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  Speaker 2: the home of BB one of the great great venables,
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  Speaker 2: And one of the coaches come up to me afterwards
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  Speaker 2: and he's like, you know, I told he didn't know
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  Speaker 2: it was my son running the ball, because Mike played
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  Speaker 2: running back. You know, he's he was pretty good at
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  Speaker 2: the time, uh, pretty good running back. And he told
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  Speaker 2: his team like, hey, this is you guys just played
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  Speaker 2: a Division one running back. And I'm like, dude, these
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  Speaker 2: dudes are in sixth grade, Like what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I'm like whatever, man, I
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  Speaker 2: was like thanks, you know what I mean. But it
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  Speaker 2: kind of got me that kind of like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks later, I was thinking about that conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, maybe I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe that guy knew what he knew what he was seeing,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but I started, I really really started the
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  Speaker 2: college thing, like this kid can go play big time
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  Speaker 2: football in college. His freshman year. I was actually I
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  Speaker 2: was stationed at Quarterer when in California, so you know,
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  Speaker 2: I watched his first game his freshman year and then
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  Speaker 2: I had to leave and I moved out there, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, they one of the guys come up to
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  Speaker 2: me and said, hey, Mike starting as a freshman and
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  Speaker 2: I was like what, I'm like, for real? He's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: people don't do that in JC, Like freshmen don't start.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, kind of watching him and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, I kind of had that same
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  Speaker 2: feeling as he was in kindergarten. I'm like, yeah, he's
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  Speaker 2: out there doing it, you know, he's running around making plays.
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  Speaker 2: And that's when I really started. I reached out to
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  Speaker 2: my old coach in college and I was like, hey, coach,
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  Speaker 2: like tell me what you see. And you know, I
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  Speaker 2: started putting out feelers and just trying to validate my thoughts,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because I had been away from football so
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  Speaker 2: long and I always thought I saw the game real
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  Speaker 2: well and like it was a you know, can evaluate
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  Speaker 2: some talent, but you know, I didn't want to be
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  Speaker 2: biased because it was my own child, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. So I didn't want my eyes to be
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  Speaker 2: deceiving me, and I just wanted somebody else to be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's bawling, even though I heard it before, I wanted
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  Speaker 2: it from like people that I trust him.
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  Speaker 1: Though, Yeah he's uh, I mean, he starts he starts
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  Speaker 1: receiving interest from the big colleges. When did you see
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  Speaker 1: when did you see that started kicking up? You know
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  Speaker 1: more than just you know, Kelly County or stuff like that,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, when did you see, like the big
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  Speaker 1: universities start taking an interest for like the recruiting process.
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  Speaker 2: So Mike was different. His his situation was different. Now.
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  Speaker 2: I think he had a he had a banged up
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  Speaker 2: sophomore year. His sophomore year, he was banged up. Started off,
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  Speaker 2: they go play like a little just called a jamboree
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  Speaker 2: up here in Kansas, there's like a three team. Actually
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  Speaker 2: went out to Hayes and it was Jared Cannick's senior year,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, hey, dude, I'm like, you want
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  Speaker 2: to be a Division one Dude, I'm like, there, it
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  Speaker 2: is my year. He's playing quarterback, you're playing defense. Let's
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  Speaker 2: see what it is. Well, he he essentially popped his
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  Speaker 2: hamstring during warm ups, so he was you know, I
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  Speaker 2: kind of set him back. And as soon as he
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  Speaker 2: came back again, he kind of had a little had
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  Speaker 2: a little knee. Had one of his best games though
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  Speaker 2: as a sophomore, and then he was just kind of
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  Speaker 2: dinged up the whole year. So his his college Division
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  Speaker 2: one attention didn't start till you know, I'd say, like
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  Speaker 2: the second No, it wasn't even second. It was probably
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  Speaker 2: the third or fourth game of his senior year. We
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  Speaker 2: went down to Wichita, played Bishop Carroll and he was
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  Speaker 2: just running around cracking people. Man, just it was. It
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  Speaker 2: was actually kind of unbelievable, like some of the some
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  Speaker 2: of the hits he had during that game, and I
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  Speaker 2: was just like, man, this dude is flying around well.
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  Speaker 2: On the way back from that game, and that's when
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  Speaker 2: Kansas State called and we went to a game day
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  Speaker 2: visit the next day and he got us. He got
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  Speaker 2: his first Division one offer, and you know what kind
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  Speaker 2: of just steamrolled after that definitely.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I remember in covering you know, Michael's recruiting
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  Speaker 1: process and the big three were Kansas State, Nebraska, and
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  Speaker 1: then you know Oklahoma. So you had Kansas State and
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  Speaker 1: you know they've got, you know, loads of a success themselves. Nebraska,
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  Speaker 1: you know they went on hard times, but you know
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  Speaker 1: what did it feel like when you saw Oklahoma kind
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  Speaker 1: of chime in and when wins.
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  Speaker 2: That I want to say I want to say that
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  Speaker 2: maybe January after his junior year. So like that, right
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  Speaker 2: at the sex start of the second semester, I was
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  Speaker 2: at work and I was like, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: I was getting ready to I was in my truck
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  Speaker 2: to go to lunch, or I was up in the
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  Speaker 2: office and he text me about Oklahoma, and I ran
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  Speaker 2: out in the office and got my truck so I
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  Speaker 2: could speak freely. But He's like, Oklahoma just offered me.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I was like, holy, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: this this is a game changer. You know, yeah, Nebraska,
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas State. You know those people in Missoo.
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  Speaker 2: I think it offered that before them, but that like
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  Speaker 2: went to a different level. You know. You saw like
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  Speaker 2: the Twitter engagement and like the the you know, the
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  Speaker 2: likes was like one hundred couple hundred thousand, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, wow, yeah, but yeah, that and you know,
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  Speaker 2: every a lot of people talk about Nebraska. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they I don't know if they weren't really on him,
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  Speaker 2: like like most schools, so you know, they were changing
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  Speaker 2: over new regime. They got kind of late, and they
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  Speaker 2: just I don't know what their thought process was, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they just they weren't. I don't know. I think they
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  Speaker 2: just fell off. They just stopped calling him for some reason.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: He I mean, you wonder why, because you know, whenever
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  Speaker 1: I see you know, some you know, the safeties, the backs,
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  Speaker 1: I go to the film and I see like, does
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  Speaker 1: this guy like contacts that he you know, possessed the
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  Speaker 1: ability to have an idea where the balls at. And
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  Speaker 1: so when I saw Boganowski, immediately I was like, hold
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  Speaker 1: on a second, why why does Rivals the only one
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  Speaker 1: that has him as a four star? So now, I
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  Speaker 1: mean he he he showed out on the film. It
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  Speaker 1: was I mean, it was amazing watching him film.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've been told by by numerous people, you know,
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  Speaker 2: at other outlets, you know, on three two, twenty four
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  Speaker 2: to seven and in Rivals that you know, there was
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  Speaker 2: a like a plea up to the to the national
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  Speaker 2: guys like this dude, you know, he needed to get
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  Speaker 2: him there. And it just I mean we're in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of nowhere, Kansas. I mean, I I can see
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  Speaker 2: why he doesn't get you know it did it never happened.
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  Speaker 2: You know, He's not like he's out in the Kansas
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  Speaker 2: City metro area or down on Wichital. You know, we're
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  Speaker 2: kind of two hours from each each one, like right
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  Speaker 2: in the middle. So I get it. Do I think
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  Speaker 2: it was unfair? Yeah? Have I It was. I a
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  Speaker 2: little upset about it for sure, because I thought, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I want to you know, what's deserve it for him?
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  Speaker 2: But you know, I got over it. You know, at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it doesn't matter. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it does matter a lot. I guess it does matter,
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  Speaker 2: but like, no use in crying over spilt milk. Like
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  Speaker 2: we're moving on. We're at Oklahoma. You know, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it really bothered him that much. I think it
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  Speaker 2: bothered me more than it bothered him. Yeah, but I
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  Speaker 2: mean it is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's it's it. I mean, it's all good because
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  Speaker 1: he you know, he he has these universities looking at him,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, at one point you're like, I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he could be successful here, he could be successful there.
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  Speaker 1: Like you, as a parent and mom, like when you
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  Speaker 1: guys fell down, like what were the top three things
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  Speaker 1: that you were really looking for as a parent for
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  Speaker 1: your child? Because I mean, ultimately it's his decision, but
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  Speaker 1: what were the three big things that you know you
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  Speaker 1: wanted him to have in a home?
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  Speaker 2: You know, we The biggest thing I always said is
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  Speaker 2: like we're paying attention to people that are paying attention
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  Speaker 2: to you, you know what I mean, And you know,
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  Speaker 2: paying the most attention. Like let's say, for instance, Nebraska,
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of hot and cold, Like I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm from Nebraska. I grew born and raised there. My
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  Speaker 2: whole family was there, and everybody was just not happy
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  Speaker 2: with how it happened. And I was like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it is what it is. But that was the first
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  Speaker 2: thing is you know, we're paying attention to people that
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  Speaker 2: are paying attention to us. Two, when we send our
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  Speaker 2: son to your institution and your program, we want to
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  Speaker 2: know that he is going to be well taken care
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  Speaker 2: of and you're going to continue to develop him and
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  Speaker 2: to be coming to man because you know, he's he's
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  Speaker 2: away from the house and you know, our touch and
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  Speaker 2: our our our you know what we you know what
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  Speaker 2: we can do with him, and you know we don't
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  Speaker 2: have that reach anymore because he's you know, he's gone.
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  Speaker 2: So it was you know that you know, pay attention,
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  Speaker 2: is paying attention to us, you know, continue to develop
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  Speaker 2: him as a man and and and make him outstanding
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  Speaker 2: young man and a contributed to society. And then you know, Three,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of like there's kind of a a program,
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  Speaker 2: you know, academics and and fit with you know, within
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  Speaker 2: the scheme of the football program. So that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: our Those those are our top four. I'm gonna give
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  Speaker 2: you four I'm over exceeded.
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  Speaker 1: That's all right, that's right. I like it. I like it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm always good for extra insights. So he gets the
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  Speaker 1: he gets the offer from Oklahoma and like that's a
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  Speaker 1: big deal. Now, firks me if I'm wrong. But when
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  Speaker 1: you were talking about, like you know, we're recruiting it
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  Speaker 1: vice for people going on visits, was it you that
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  Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, if you're going on a visit trail,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, take it easy on the food because
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  Speaker 1: you will be miserable from eating all the food. I found.
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  Speaker 1: That was one of the funniest things.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, man, like, yeah, I'm fit. I'm pretty sure I
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  Speaker 2: put on fifteen pounds from from from January to like
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  Speaker 2: you know that end of summer. I like, I've and
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  Speaker 2: you know I was, I'm I was in the army
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  Speaker 2: at the time, so like, there's a there's a height
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  Speaker 2: and weight standard that you had had to adhere to.
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  Speaker 2: And I went and I stepped on scaling in. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, what hey, I had to get right real quick, man.
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  Speaker 2: It was it was there's some really eating going on. Man.
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  Speaker 2: You know Oklahoma was majorityly responsible for that.
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  Speaker 1: That's good. That's good. So commitment time it comes time
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  Speaker 1: to commitment, what did that process look like? As far
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  Speaker 1: as like the conversations with Michael is far, It's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this is your choice, this is our intel. Like,
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  Speaker 1: how did how did you guys manage that?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't try to interfere too much. I was here
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  Speaker 2: to help. I was here to guide. I was here
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  Speaker 2: to facilitate you know that that process. I've been there, done.
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  Speaker 2: You know, my time's up. You know, I went to college,
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  Speaker 2: I played you know, I played football, I got you know,
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  Speaker 2: I got recruited, you know. But I was just here
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  Speaker 2: to help. I didn't want to influence his decision. I
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  Speaker 2: just wanted him to find it his own way. And
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  Speaker 2: I was here to help and facilitate that decision and
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  Speaker 2: just get him out there and see as many schools
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  Speaker 2: as possible to try to figure out what he liked.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Mike's kind of a quiet guy. Sometimes you know, you
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: don't really know what he's thinking. So, you know, I
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: he had always expressed that he wanted to go get
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: away from home. I was like, okay, I mean I can't.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I can't fault that. I left on my home, went
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: to Las Cruses, New Mexico, and I was like, I
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: don't even know if I asked my mom what she thought,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I was like, I can't,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I can't, uh, I can't fault you. And so, you know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: we went and saw schools and I think, as you know,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: he got out further, you know, going to Washington in
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: a Michigan, he kind of realized like, I don't know,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: this is kind of it'll be kind of a strain,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: you know, on the family. Seeing he's got two little brothers.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: They'll be playing football as well. So you know, I
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: just didn't want to interfere. I wanted him to make
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: it his own, his own choice, because I don't want
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: to like, hey, you need to need to go here,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: because I said, so, you know, I've never been that
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: kind of guy or that you know that that parent.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: But you know, there's there's some things that are non negotiables,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: you know, like playing three sports. But you know, something
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: like this, you know, I don't want to I don't
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: want a hamstring him. And I just wanted him to
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: make it on his own so that he's happy with it.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: And you know, he's he's where he wants to be.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: So he commits to Oklahoma. I mean it was one
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: of the you know, just as far as like social
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: media and the people that you know, I speak to
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: and the people that cover the recruiting like it was
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: a big deal. It was an absolute big deal. And
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: because he was yet another physical safety that was coming
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: back to Oklahoma because here here recently, you know, that
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: safety room was not like a it was not a
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: bloomin asset for you know in the fans' eyes, and
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: you know, we had guys that were just glue. Guys
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: were out there. And so he comes in, You've got
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Peyton Bowen, Robert Spears, Jennings, Uh, you've got you know,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Billy Bowman. Does that you know, make it a little
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: bit more comfortable for you to know that, like, man,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: he's going to have some you know, shoes to fill
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: and you know, some leadership to to follow as he's
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: going into you know, a loaded safety room full of
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: absolute just freaks.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it always makes you a little more
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: comfortable when you know your son is going into situation
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: where there is some veteran leadership, you know, getting thrown
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: into the fire, you know, coming in. And I listened
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: to mister Powers earlier this morning, and you know he
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: said like, you know, it's an eighteen year old kid
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: getting thrown into the sec and coming in starting. I
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: was like, that's the you know, you're asking for it. Yeah,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: you're asking for it. Man, You're gonna You're gonna get
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: baptized by fire. You know, he was. There's schools we
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: could have went to where, you know, like mister Powers
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: that he could have started right away as a freshman.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: And I mean, yeah, I get it. But you know,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: there's a there's a thing too, in my opinion, is
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: learning and being taught in the right way instead of
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: you know, baptizing baptism by fire and getting your getting
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: your butt whooped all the time and learning that way.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's something to be said for it. But
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I think you know, setting conditions and getting your body
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: right and getting getting schmitty built, you know, getting yourself
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: ready and getting prepared. I think, you know, I was
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: elated when when Billy stayed because I was just like, hey, man,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I was like I mentioned this before, like Mike you
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: got you need to be his shadow, Like you need
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: to learn from him. You need to like be all
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: up under him, like watch film, like asking questions like
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I know you don't you know you don't like to
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: hear it from me, because you know, I tell him
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: how it is. I know you don't like to hear
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: it from me. I was like, but you need to
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: be up under him, Like if there's one thing you
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: hear from me and you you know, you take the
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: heart of like you have a hell of an opportunity
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: to learn from one of the best safeties in college football.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I was like, you need to make the most of it.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: But I was super pumped when when when he came back.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: You know, there's other there's other guys you know in
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: the room too, that that you know, can bring put
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: put stuff on the table, and you know Mike can
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: soak it up.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: So you you bring up you know, Reggie Junior, Reggie Powers,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the third also shows up with Michael. You know. For me,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's the future Bash brothers. I
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: grew up around Hose Cansako, Mart Maguire, Uh, and I
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: just see these two heavy hitters. I was a Broncos fan,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: and you know, so Steve Atwater was a humongous uh
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: you know, and I already said John Lynch was was
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: was a guy that like, you know, I loved because
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: those guys are hard hitting guys. Go back to Brandon average.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: For the Sooners, you know, is it is you think
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: it's an asset for you as as a parent, and
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: then obviously you know the kids to to know that
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: you can reach out for Reggie and you guys get
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: to kind of go through this process together for to
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: just you know, high high quality safeties.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, before I asked that question, I'm like,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: John Lynch is a buccaneer. All right, you can't claim him.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: All right, you can't have him. I didn't say you
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: can't have him all right. He's a buccaneer. He's a
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Hall of Famer as a bucconeer. There he is. You know,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I think we're being I think we'd be remiss if
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: we didn't, you know, give Jayden Hardy. Oh yeah, some
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: flowers as well. I heard a lot of Michael Boganawsky
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: and Reggie Powers. But you know Jayden Hardy, you know,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: he's very familiar and this is from my son, of course.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: You know, Jayden's very familiar with the defense, you know,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: and they ran similar stuff at his high school. So
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Jaydon Hardy come into a camp like you know, probably
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: a step ahead of Mike and Reggie, like knowing what
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: techniques to play and what coverages and stuff like that.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: So Jayden's been a big help as well. And you
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: know they've been at it since, you know, before they
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: even showed up, you know, being on the phone and
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: talking and you know, learning, you know, trying to get
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: ahead of the game before they got there. So you know,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: we got to give Jaydon Hardy, you know, hit some
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: credit because you know, he's a he's a he's a
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: big giant, he's a big time he can cover now,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: he's a big, big time safety. But man, I got
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: to say, what was the what was the question? Is John?
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: John Lynch scrambled me.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Lynch freaked you out. Now listen, I'm a Cardinals fan. Also,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Will Clark is not a Cardinal. That's a that's a
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: that's a New York Giant so or San Francisco Giants.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: So no, with with So I'm gonna throw in Hardy too.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: So you got Hardy, You've got you know, Peyton's a
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: little bit older. But you know, Reggie and Michael all
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: kind of coming in together. Hey listen, breat Venable's not scared,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: and neither his coach halled to throw out free safeties
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: on the field, especially with the coverage skills that these
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: three guys have. So, you know, going through the process together,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: do you think that's a big asset for you know,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: you as a parent to have other parents to conversate
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: with with and also you know, the players to kind
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: of iron sharpens iron.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. You gotta gotta have competition, right, Competition
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: makes everybody in the team better. So yeah, I do
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: believe it is. It is. It adds an element to
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: the team, and you know, it pushes those older guys too.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: You know, some of those older guys are like, man,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: these freshmen you know, running around, you know, popping people
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: and making plays. So it makes them step their game up,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: you know, and and it may you know, it might
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: make the quarterback step his game up too. He's like, man,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I just can't hang this ball out over the middle anymore.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna get somebody hurt. Yeah, so he
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: got to tighten up his game. And you know, chrisph
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: routes by the tight ends and receivers over the middle
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So I think it's you know,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: it pays dividends for sure. You know, I got a
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: good relationship with mister Powers started, you know, on their visit.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: We were actually at the game. Uh maybe yeah, yeah,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: you see f and you know they were there. We
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: went out to eat, you know, at a good time.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: You know, shout out JP Lossman. You know, he's he's
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the man behind the scenes. You know, he had invited
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: us out. And I'm telling you it is one of
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the places I'm talking about put fifteen pounds on you.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Is that Benvenuti's. Yeah, that place is amazing. Yeah, but yeah,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: you know it. It just adds to the overall culture
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: of the program. And you know, parents in relationships and
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: you know, making a family, you know they try to
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: you know, they don't try they are doing it, but
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: that's what they you know, they like to put that
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: out there, like family. It's it's real. You know, it's real.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: That's I mean, you're right. I mean because I think
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: that I was talking to coach you Dan't you know,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: yesterday and you know, he was like you wanting to
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: hook up with other parents for tailgates, So I you know,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: reached out and was asking about you close and yeah,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I got you got some information on that. So all right,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: So I like this story because this is the kind
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: of parent that I am. But I think that actually
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Reggie was the one who introduced me to you at
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: the spring game. Yeah, we're sitting We're sitting under in
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the tunnel. Everybody's grabbing a beverage and.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: You're standing.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: You're facing me and the TVs behind him behind you,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: And I said, oh, I think Mike just got got
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: a personal foul call on him. You didn't even flintch
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: turned back and look at the TV screen. You're like, yeah,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: did you also see the tackle that he missed? So
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: you know, as a parent, you're you know, you want
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the best for him, and you know what he's capable of,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: like the early buzz that you're hearing, you know, just
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the excitement around him. You know, how does that make
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you feel?
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Uh? I don't want to say it's validation, but you
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: know I want him to you know, like we mentioned
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: earlier with you know the rankings and all that stuff,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: like he's a big time player man. Like you know
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: the word freak, you know, I like to say you
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: know that for like Danny a Koi, because that dude
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: is a freaking nature. He has a super freak all right.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: When I tell you that he is Rick James, like
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: certified super freak. Right. But you know, Mike, he he
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: got discredited and he got looked over, you know, being
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: in Junction City, Kansas, and you know, I just want
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I just want people to realize that the kid can
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: play football. Man, he ain't afraid and you know, he's
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: a big, strong, athletic kid. And you know, I just
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: want you know, he's got to go out and earn it.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Like you know, he ain't. He ain't at the pinnacle.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to blow, you know, gast
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: him up too much, but you know, he's I want
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: him to be great, and I want what's best for him,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: you know. And I, like I said, you know, I
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: played football. I see the game a little bit different
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: than than than most people, you know. I you know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: even when we were in Columbus, Georgia, you know, he's kindergarten,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: first grade. Like he'd go play a game and you know,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I'm I video at all, Like I was videoing it all.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: We'd come back from the game and we'd watch the film.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: You know, we'd sit down and we'd watch it. I
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: don't know if he remember as much of that, but
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: you know, I was always talking to about angles, you know,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: coming to make tackles and you know, overrunning, and you know,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: maybe I was doing a little too much, but you
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: know I was a young I was a young man,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: you know, twenty sure might have been thirty thirty or
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: thirty one maybe, but yeah, you know, I just want
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: what's best for him, and I know what he's capable of,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: and I don't want him to underperform. Yeah, I've been around,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: you know, I've been around. I mean I missed a lot,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: you know, being in the army and going overseas. So sometimes,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: like as I got older, and I was like, man,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I need to like maybe not be so hard on
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: him and praise him. But like in the tunnel at
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: the spring game, that stuff does happen to show itself.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: And maybe maybe one of those tall boys didn't help,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: you know, with the inhibitions and me shooting my mouth off.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: You know, I loved it, No, I loved it. That's
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: when I knew that. I was like, man, this is
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: going to be a friend, not just a sooner parent.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: So you got to you got some games slated to
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: go see in Norman. What's what games? Because I know
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: that you have you know, young kids, so you're they're
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: gonna have you know, you know, football games on Friday
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: and stuff, so that that makes the turnaround, you know,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: a little bit tougher. But you don't also, you don't
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: have like a massive plane flight. So what games do
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: you have planing on seeing a Norman?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: So the original plan was like I'm going to every game,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: right like I you know, just retired from the military.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Other than you know, take me a little time and
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: like go and you know, a hook up, the hook
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: up the travel trailer and you know, get down to
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: the southeast, get back down to the South. But you know,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I may have I may have overextended myself in that.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: You know, once once my my youngest kids schedule come out,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: uh and they play Saturday mornings. I was like, okay,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: a game kind of went Oklahoma, game went away. And
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: then you know, my my my middle child market is
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: you know, he's a sophomore. So we're trying to you know,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: we I'm gonna wait and see you know what his
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: where he's at, if he's playing JV or he's on varsity.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: But you know, the plan is to plan is to
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: go to the one that's gonna be really, I plan
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: on going to them all. The two lane game is
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: gonna be difficult because of the start time. I might
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: get there right at kickoff, but I plan on being there.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I think the only one that I know I'm going
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: to miss is the Auburn game because you know, my
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: my youngest one camera and he's got a game that morning,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and it's I don't know if it's really feasible to
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: get on a get on a plane and be in Auburn, Alabama,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: you know, by my start time. But yeah, the the
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Texas game is gonna be difficult to get to, but
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna try my damnites, because that's that's one, you know,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: if I gotta, if I get there right after kickoff
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: or sometime, like you know, I'm still I'm still gonna go. Yeah.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I just can't see myself missing that.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I don't I can't see myself sitting in my living
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: room watching that because my wife's gonna be that's for sure.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, but yeah, I plan on a
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: plan on all. I think South Carolina I might miss
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: that one too, just by the good start time.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: It's all right, you know, my my daughter's uh you know,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: trying to become a professional soccer player already. And so
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I've got that schedule to do with, so you can
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: always be texting back and forth with me during the games.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I I I I I watched a little bit differently too.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: So let's say, here, are you ready for? I asked
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: this question to everybody at the end. Are you ready
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: for a little season prediction? What's your uh, what's your
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: thought process? What do you think the Sooner is gonna
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: show up at record wise this year?
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: You know? I think you know, I it's gonna be tough,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Like I, I I think it. They're gonna they're gonna
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: do well. Do I think they're being slept on one?
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Do I think the national narrative is Oklahoma's offensive line
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: is gonna be the weak point of the team. Of course?
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I mean you you they don't know who I don't
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: know what they're doing or who their research people are.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: But Bill Beatingbow is that guy. Yeah, they better, they better,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: you know, step their game up. But I think it's easy.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: You know, I think it's easy. Just you know, one
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: person said it and everybody just kind of regurgitates it.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: And you know, I don't I don't necessarily see Texas
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: is being as good as everybody's given them. I just
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: don't see it. And I'm not gonna say that. You know,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I've never liked Texas and I've always been a horns
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: down kind of guy. So I mean, I'm trying not
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: to be, you know, that Texas guy. But I don't
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: see it. They had a good year last year. I
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: think there's some fort they got. Fortunately, they got lucky
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: in a couple of games, Houston game being one like that.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: That quarterback got the first down and it you know,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: they might have scored. I think they I think they
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: backed their way into the nowational playoffs, you know, the
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: college football Championship Series. I I feel like, I don't
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: know how Georgia. I'm getting distracted here, so I'm trying
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: to think of what I what I want to say.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be tough. I think there's gonna
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: be a lot of one score games. I think there's
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: gonna be some field goals that need to be made.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: And and you know, football will punish you if you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: if you're not on your game, and it's gonna be tough.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I I go back, I go back and forth. But
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I think I think nine and three is where I
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: usually settle on. And you know, I think I think
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: the first SEC game in Auburn is gonna be tough.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I think I think the Old Miss game is gonna
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: be tough. And in one or two of the Alabama
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: l s U games, I think, uh, you know, we
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: might get the ball bouncing the wrong way, but I
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: think nine and three, and you know, I you know,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: it's say, you know, we get a we get a
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: bad callers, you know, something happens. I mean, eight and
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: four is not the worst thing. And I know Oklahoma
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: fans and everybody is like, that's a disappointment. Eight and four,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: eight and four a first year in the SEC with
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: that schedule. Yeah, man, let me tell you something. That's
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: that's a hell of a job. That's my opinion. But
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I think nine to three is very attainable and a
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: couple of bounces in our way easily tended to easily too.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: And that's just you know, that's not I haven't simulated
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: anything like that on the college football game. You know,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I just played a couple of times with my boys upstairs.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: But I don't have the patience to sit down and
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: run a whole season anymore.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: No, you know, you know, hot take here. As much
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: as I cover recruiting, I absolutely just skip through the
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: whole recruiting thing and start the season over. I just
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: want to play the game. So I'm kind of right
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: there with you. But okay, So now the bone question
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: here from from the audience is there's a running joke
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: about the over under one you know, personal fouls or
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: you know, penalties for for for Mike. So, uh, you know, again,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: we don't ever want him to hurt anybody, but you know,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: telling him not to do what he does, you know
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: that that's gonna be tough. So you know, do you
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: when when he gets in, you get his time if
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: he gets one of those personal fouls because he's just
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: playing tough or playing after the whistle? Uh, you know
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: that We're okay with that. So did you take the
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: over the under? I think it was that three and
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: a half or was it two and a half?
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I think it was two and a half two and
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: a half. I think it was two and a half.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I you know, I think there's gonna be some learning
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: the speed of the game and you know that target area,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: you know, are there some adjustment there? And now do
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be intentional? No, I don't think
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: he's out there, you know, trying to headhunt, you know,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: John Lynch style, you know back in the day, head
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: straight down. Yeah. No, but you know he's he's a
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: violent he's a violent football player. He's always been that way.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: So I think there's gonna be some Now I'm probably
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: taking the under, and I think it's gonna be two.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be too, just because you know,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: there's an adjustment. There's an adjustment like he's getting used
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: to the practice speeds of the game in the SEC
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: but come game day it's even faster. Yeah, you know,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: so he's gonna have to adjust you know, people running
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: routes and you know processing, you know where the ball is,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: where the receiver is it taking the right angle and
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: then not only just making a tackle, but you know,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: in that target area and not be up in the
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: head and neck area with his helmet. So I think
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: there's some adjustments and some learning. So I think there's
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: gonna be I think there's gonna be a couple. Hopefully not.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: But I remember who it was, was it PG or
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: somebody else said over and it was some like my
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: son showed it to me. Actually, my son showed it
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: It's he's he's one of the content creators, you know,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: favorite players, and I think it was I think it
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: was that Spring game hit and then obviously watching his film.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we're all kind of there. Yeah, I personally
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: think you you mentioned Danny a Koye and I might
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: shoot him that that that clip of you calling him
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: a freak too, because he's getting popular right now. A
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: lot of people are kind of catching on. But it
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: almost doesn't seem fair for the first three weeks and
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: maybe that main game that you know, Oklahoma comes out.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: They they you know, they are going to be using
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: you as a practice dummy getting ready for Tennessee. And
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: then when you finally take a breath, you roll out Mike,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Danny a Koye, Lewis Carter, guys like that, Guys who
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: you know have been waiting for you know, now want
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: to go thump. So you know, I just you know, sorry, Temple, Houston, Tulane.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: We you know J. P. Lessman was a two lane guy,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: so I know he doesn't want us, you know, hurting
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: his alma mater there. But but you know, it's I'm
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: excited to see I think, from top to bottom this
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: entire roster this year. And I know that you kind
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: of feel the same.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: You know, I've been around a koy I do. I
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: do feel the same. But I've been around a Koye
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: a couple of times. It's an extended time up and
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: up in the office with with Coach Hall and Coach Bates.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: My youngest son, Cameron, like that's his main. That's his main, dude. Man,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: he loves him some Danny Koye. But you know, we
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: went to the we were at the Army US Army
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Bowl U and Koye was, you know, on the other
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: team and did he just wreck shot? Man? He just
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: they couldn't block him. You know, he was out there
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: stripsack and you know, just it was ridiculous. That dude is.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: You know, he's he's fast, man, he's good, he's big,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: he's long. I mean, what else can you want? And
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: you know, just twitchy. I mean, come on, that's almost unfair,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: you know, like a dude like that, And I'm glad
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: he chose Oklahoma. Yeah, you know, I'm pumped about that.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I think that he's got his ceiling is it's not
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: too high. Yeah, there's not too many on Oklahoma for sure.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: And I told him when I was at his commitment, like,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't even think he fully understands really
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: what his capabilities are because I mean it's like he's
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: had to play like somewhat you know, contains you know,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: you know, with the homeschool stuff. So yeah, we've got
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: guys up and down the roster that are like that.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: So it's it's, it's it's it's a fun time. So man, Mike,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I I appreciate you joining here, and again I appreciate
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: your service. Thank you for your service to our country.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I wanted to do these because these conversations, you know,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: get a chance to show everybody again, you know, who's
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: behind these plays, who's behind these guys and the family
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: aspect of things. So man, thanks for coming on. You know,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: let me let me add something on there. You know,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I think this is a great thing too.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: And you know, I always I have this conversation with
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Coach Bates and Coach Chavis a lot. You know, how
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: fortunate I feel like coming to Oklahoma and being around them,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: and you know, I tell them this story and you know,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: this is for all the the prospects and recruits parents.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: You know, because when I first showed up there, you know,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: they they laid it on and then you know it's
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: talking about family, and you know, it was different and
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: it wasn't like anywhere else, and I was kind of
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: like taking taking aback. I'm like, man, this seems too
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: almost seems fake and not genuine. But you know, if
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: you feel that like I did, you know, on your
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: first you know, Elite junior day or something like that,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: just know that it's real. Just know that they are
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: that way all the time and it hasn't stopped and
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: it probably won't stop. But just know that they are real.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: And everything that you're feeling about, you know, that togetherness
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: and that family and that bond, it's real. The sole
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: mission is real. And I would not hesitate to send
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: your son uh to coach Venables in the Oklahoma Sooners
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: because they're going to do right by them. And man,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: you know, you see some other things out in college football,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: but you know, rest assured that they are going to
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: take care of your child and that's the place for
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: your for your child.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: And and I think a previous dad said, you know,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: it's not a pitch. It's just it's their way of life,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: it's who they are.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm telling you it's I was just kind of like, man,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: you know, we've been a couple of places and I'm
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: dragging this on, but we've been a couple of places
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: and it was different, you know what I mean, Like
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: that that that Oklahoma, that junior day. I was just like, man,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: this is this is different. I was like, I like it.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: But you know, there's you always going to recruiting and
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: in your first interaction with coaches, your guards up. You know,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: you're you're looking for the bs. You know you're looking
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: for you know, and it's just you know, it takes
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: you a while to okay, I'm familiar with this person,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: and you know, it's it's a it's a real thing
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: at Oklahoma man, and and and I would advise you know,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's a big mistake if you if you
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: choose anywhere else, and you know, I think you know,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: they're competing it with N I L and I. You know,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: everybody's financial situations aren't the same. But I think you know,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: if a lot of these kids are making their college
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: decision based on N I LS, you know they're not gonna.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: They're gonna they're not gonna be as happy as probably
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: you know where if they choose somewhere for the right reasons.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: You know, it's being developing in football. You know, money
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: is a you know, money comes and goes. You know
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: you can't but like I said, now, everybody's uh situation,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: financials is the same and some people, you know, some
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: people are less fortunate than others. So I think that
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: you know, choosing the school for the right reason and
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: not just nil, you know, there's something to be said
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: about that. And one of the things I like too
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: was Dominic Williams when you know, after he committed what
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: he tweeted, I was like, that's amazing, you know what
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I mean. I thought it was an amazing, amazing time
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: for college football, and it just showed you that there's
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: still some people out there, you know, looking for the
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: right reasons to go somewhere.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm and I'm gonna add is Oklahoma plays
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: the ball game in I l wise with the best
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: stuff too. Yeah. Absolutely, it's not you're not coming here
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: for free. You're you're gonna get yours and uh, you
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: know with the production that is about to start happening.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe he had a clean house. He had
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: he had to completely clean house. And that was not
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: just a physical terminology. I mean it was a mental
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: terminology too. There was a he had to bring in
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: different mindset and so, uh, I watched these guys work
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: for each other, and you know, again like Billy Bowman,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, taking these safeties underneath his wing,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: trying to press them to be something better. You know,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: hearing a lot of the leadership out of Jacob Sexton,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: you know, on the offensive line. You know, it's it's
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: it's again, like I said, I do sales for a living,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: and it's hard. I've had customers in the past where
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I was like, man, I really don't want these people
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: to be successful, you know. So it's it's easy to
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: to to go out and and to uh, you know,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: bring to light the greatness of a program that truly
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: is great.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's a leader of men and he is
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: he is. Uh. Like I said, I feel blessed and
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: very fortunate that you know, my son is in his program,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: and you know, I just I can't express it, you
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: know enough, And it's just it's an amazing feeling and
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I'm totally comfortable. I don't have to worry about Mike,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I don't have to worry about
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: him down there. I know he's taken care of and
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: you know, he's you know, he's got people looking after
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: him and stealing discipline on him when he needs it
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: and you know that tough love. So I'm I I'm
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: over the moon about Oklahoma and uh, you know, I
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: cannot wait to get back down to Norman and watching football. Man.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like just just looking every day, just kind of
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: wait and figure it out. Man, Like m I might
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: have to come down to one of these practices and
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: scratch that itch. You know that football is that I need.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, It's like I've never identified with
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: that meme of the guy just sitting and waiting in
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: different areas more than I do this year. So I'm
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: definitely excited. So again, guys, thanks for hopping in here
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: today inside the Sooner family. This has been an absolute
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: honor and a pleasure for me to be able to
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: do this with some of these parents and just hear
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: their hearts and hear like, you know, the the the
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: advocacy that you just shared and so uh help down
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: in the comments. You know, let us know what you
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: thought about it. Share this with other Sooner fans because
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: they want to. You know this, this proves that you
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: know what we hear. This is absolutely legitimate. So Mike again,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: you started it with a You started with a little
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: little hand signal, and do you think there we go?
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: There we go? So again, guys, appreciate y'all pulling up
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Mike again.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Thank you, sir all I appreciate it. Thank you.