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Full Spectrum Cycling #29 – New Trails in Wausau – Bike Summit – Dave Schlabowske · Full Spectrum Cycling

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  Hey, everybody. It's Sven here at the Full Spectrum Cycling thing-a-magigger with JK to my right. Hello, hello. Mr. Dave Schlabowski. I'm back. And in his usual seat, Tony Berger. Hola. What's going on, guys?
• 0:42
  Too much. Um, I just got back, uh, from the bike summit, the state bike summit, which was up in- Ah, yes... which was up in Wausau. Wausau. We, we, we need a report on that. Yeah.
• 0:53
  And, uh, the highlight, the, the definite highlight of, of... Although there was a bunch of good information shared, um, it was the ribbon cutting for the Ringel trails that, uh, CWOC has opened.
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  Uh, and they're definitely... Put them on your, on your bucket list 'cause they are freaking awesome. These are mountain bike trails? Yeah. All machine built, um, flow, and the entire system has, um...
• 1:19
  is progressive design, so you could ride it with, like, you know, your 12-year-old or, you know, somebody, your friend who's new to mountain biking.
• 1:27
  And, um, every 50 yards or so there's a little feature, and they're all... They're, like, sort of within my, my range, so, like- [laughs]... you know, like, so there's nothing, like, scary.
• 1:37
  Like, if you go down, like, the, the, the, the black line at, at Sylvan up there, you're like, "Oh, I gotta get off. I'm walking." Yeah, I didn't, uh, I didn't even attempt it. My son and I did that trail.
• 1:47
  We, we did the outside trail at Sylvan three times and it was awesome. Yeah, you can session that. And, and- And then-... uh, and the yellow one is- Yep, yep... you can session that all day long. The- Yep...
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  the blue one is still a little bit of a challenge for me. But, um, so this one is, is all flow, not a lot of climbing, and, um, and super well-built.
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  So, like, it was pouring rain the day before, and for the ribbon cutting it was bone dry and rideable. Wow. And every little... They- they, they're really well-built, um, with, uh...
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  Every place they reverse a grade and put a different berm up, there's, like, a little drainage there and you can see it, and they're all doing their job 'cause all the little leaves and stuff were down there- Nice...
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  and the trail, trail was dry. Sweet. So yeah, I'd, I'd definitely encourage folks to go up to Wausau and, and check out that. They've also- Wausau...
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  so they've now got 70 miles of, of, um, purpose-built single track up there. Wow. Um- Yeah, nine mile. Uh, nine mile, um- Sylvan...
• 2:44
  Sylvan, under, down, and, uh, and, and, uh, this trail has got another mile and a half yet to finish, but it'll be done this year. So it's- What's the current length of it?
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  I don't remember the breakdown of all, all their trails, but I mean, um, it's definitely sessionable, so you could go out there and spend three, four hours riding.
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  And, uh, it also is uniquely two-way, which I never really realized nine mile is as well. Huh. Um, so th- I...
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  You're, you'll be going along and there's signs facing one way and ramps, you know, little jumps off to your right, and then, like, hey, the sign's pointed the other way and there's a ramp going the other way, so [laughs] I guess...
• 3:23
  Yeah, at nine mile I get lost all the time. I just- Oh, yeah... I'm not there often enough- Oh, yeah. It's so awesome... I'm like, "Where the heck am I again?" [laughs] Yeah.
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  But, uh, so, uh, it- it's a very cool partnership that CWOC had with... It's built on, um, their landfill, their, their du- waste management- Mm... um, for Marathon County, and they donated all the land.
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  They even, like, had their, their, um, waste management crews, like, build cool struct- you know, like, a, a, a trailhead structure and stuff like that there.
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  So, um- That's really cool 'cause- How are they, how are they venting all the methane? Um, well, there's a differ- uh, there's a, this is on, on, on, you know, it's not on a, a former landfill. This- Oh...
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  uh, it's just they've got whatever- Oh, okay... a gazillion acres, and there's this landfill, that landfill, and then there's all this space that they have and this- I gotcha...
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  and they donated this land and let CWOC build the trails on it. And, and they did- That's good PR for waste management- Yeah, definitely...
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  'cause the hill that they have here in Milwaukee on the north side over there by Ernst von Scheider- Yeah... and on the county line, everybody wanted to use that hill for something.
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  But the, uh, the model airplane slope flyers were the only ones that could get access to it 'cause they could make good well with, like, five people getting access, and they didn't have all these people- [laughs]...
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  knocking off well heads and all sorts of other stuff- Right... on an active methane hill. Yeah. I got... You really have to hand it to CWOC for all that they've done in, in building partnerships in their community.
• 4:42
  So, I mean, to pay for this stuff, I think it was... It's machine-built, so it costs money. They have their own machines, but it still costs money.
• 4:48
  I think it costs them 200-some thousand dollars, 207, I think, and they just, they showed a list of, you know, like, 15 local foundations, 25 businesses, 65 local individuals, you know, all, all donated, um, raised the money.
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  And, um- And CWOC is the trail group? Yeah. That's the, uh, uh, Central Wisconsin Off-Road Cycling Club. It's an IMBA chapter. Um, and, uh, and, uh, they, they really have, have, uh...
• 5:17
  I mean, I, I, I'm starting to call Wausau the Chamonix of the Midwest. Yeah, it's really, it picked up in the last several years. Yep. Like, uh, what, five years ago they were grooming, uh, fat bike trails- Yep.
• 5:29
  They, they-... which they were some of the first- Yep... to do that. And- They groom fat bike trails. They've got, uh, they've obviously got great, um, Nordic trails.
• 5:36
  And the other, they've got, you know, the mountain for downhill skiing.
• 5:39
  And then the other thing that they have that's pretty unique is, um, they have a world-class, um, white water, uh, uh, kayak course on the river- Wow... and they can set the flow level- Right. When-...
• 5:53
  because they've got a dam. So depending on the level of competition, they can increase or decrease the, the flow on it And that's where the Olympics would've been if it had been in Chicago, I believe. Yeah.
• 6:03
  It's pretty cool. It's genius. Uh, the, the town is... And they've got, you know, great beer and good restaurants- Yeah... and good coffee and everything you want these days, so. And after...
• 6:10
  It's not that far from, uh- It is not far... Milwaukee. It's not... In the Midwest, it's not far from anywhere really for a day trip. I haven't, I haven't priced it in a while.
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  Last time I checked, it wasn't outrageous to live there either. Yeah. And right nearby, right nearby over in Rome is, uh, is, uh, the, um-
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  Uh, Sand Barrens with, uh, Sand Valley Golf Course where they have all their fat bike trails, and that has tremendous potential to, um...
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  They rent fat bikes there, and they have 10 miles of trails or something like that, and they have a, a huge ass race in the winter there. Um, but, um, they have, like 9,000 acres. Wow.
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  Um- Yeah, I've been meaning to get up there. I- it was on my list all summer, and I never made it. So the- Mm... potential, um, I introduced them to, um, Aaron Rodgers, um, of the trail building Aaron Rodgers.
• 6:55
  [laughs] Not the-- I don't know where- Not the Danica Patrick- I do, I do not know-... dating Aaron Rodgers... I do not move in- Now we see a mustache Rodgers Can I, can I pick up that name for a while? Yeah.
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  I don't move in, I don't move in the- Mr. Patrick's-... the NFL s- pro NFL circles, but, uh, introduced them them.
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  And I have my fingers crossed that the, the, the family that owns, um, that golf course owns a bunch of other golf courses, and they're very envi- environmentally minded as well as, like, try to use their golf courses to promote the economies of the local communities that they go in.
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  So they've got a really unique property. I mean, where else would you... You could have a hundred mile fat bike race on sand in the summer. You know what I mean? Yeah. Wow. Where, where else can you do that? Yeah.
• 7:33
  You know? So on the, uh, on the golf course in the winter, did they let you use the sand traps for features? [laughs] There's enough sand. You don't need those.
• 7:41
  [laughs] Uh, when we did a race early on in fat bike racing, you know, history back 10 years ago or whatever, in Gaylord, Michigan, on a golf course, and they let us run the course through the sand traps.
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  It was pretty cool 'cause it was frozen except for the sand was- Yeah... still pretty, uh, pliable.
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  Well, yeah, uh, you should-- anybody that's curious about that place should, should, um, should just check out the golf course website, Sand Valley, uh, Resort, and ta- they've got these aerial photos that really, I mean, they're gorgeous because they're professionally done aerial photos, but my mouth dropped when I drove in the first time to help scout it for a huge ass race, and I was like, "Oh my God."
• 8:17
  Yeah, and that's a- It's cool... it's a unique, um, ecosystem with the, I, I don't know what it is, where it doesn't get rain or it, what, what- It used to be, it used to be the bottom of a lake. Okay.
• 8:26
  And it, it is unglaciated, so- Right, right... it was the bottom of a prehistoric lake, and, uh, so it's all sand and rolling hills. Rolling hills. Yeah. Rolling, rolling, rolling. Right on.
• 8:38
  Well, that sounds pretty cool. Wausau's up and coming. Wausau. Awesome. Chamonix of the Midwest. You heard it first here. Yeah, there you go. You should patent that now. [laughs] Or copyright that.
• 8:47
  Sorry, don't patent it- I've got a bunch of those-... copyright it...
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  like, like, you know, Wales, when you're on the, on the, uh, uh, the trail riding from Wales, it's like Wales is kinda like the high point of the trail between here and Madison.
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  So, like, I think the town of Wales should have, "It's all downhill from Wales." Yeah, for sure. [laughs] Get a T-shirt. [laughs].com. Yeah. So, um- Yeah...
• 9:08
  Dave, well, looking at Dave's, uh, garb made me realize that it's ch- getting chillier outside lately. Mm-hmm.
• 9:13
  And, uh, one of the questions I wanted to ask you guys is, what's your favorite piece of gear when it starts getting a little cooler outside?
• 9:20
  I don't know if you're wearing the one [laughs] that your favorite is, but, uh- Well, I, I am a fan of the Kitsbow, um, icon shirt. I am. They're stupid expensive. I've resisted them for years.
• 9:30
  I, I, I finally tried one, and I was like, "All right. I get it." Well- I get it... I got, I, I got, drank the Kool-Aid this year with one piece of clothing from that line. I fought it for years.
• 9:39
  I'm like, "I can buy a Pendleton at, for 30 bucks at a thrift store. Why should I spend 200 bucks on that shirt?" And I treated myself. A friend of mine- It's a little more than a shirt, though. Yeah. Yeah.
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  It's more like a jack- It's a light jacket... it's, it's a light jacket. Yeah. Yeah. But it, the, it's, it's worth it. But a lot of the s- Do you ever wear it without a shirt under it? Um, typically not.
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  Then, then it's a light jacket. Yeah, right. Yeah.
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  Um, the other piece of gear that I like a lot for winter is, um, Swerve, um, [clicks tongue] uh, their soft shell, winter soft shell pants, which are, are bomber and, uh, super warm, little bit water, you know, whatever else so- Yeah, I gotta check that out.
• 10:16
  I sent them a note saying, uh, "Boy, we like your stuff." Awesome. "We'd like to be a dealer," and they're like, "Okay." They're awesome.
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  And, and, um- So haven't ordered anything yet, but if you guys want Swerve stuff, let me know... what I, what I like about their pants is they've got a pen pocket which actually is perfect for a, an everyday carry knife.
• 10:30
  That's not your s- that's your Swerve pants? Yeah. These are Swerve jeans, yeah. And is that your titanium whatchamajigger, uh- It is my, my-... knife? Yeah.
• 10:37
  [laughs] I don't, I only have titanium scales on one of my, uh, which, I forget which one it is. A Skyline, a Kershaw Skyline, I think.
• 10:45
  I like that, um, I like that other knife that you showed me, though, with the plastic handle. It was narrow, and it was really light. The Bugout? Bugout. Yeah, that's a Benchmade Bugout. Benchmade Bugout.
• 10:53
  I, this is the first da- I like that... time in, like, I don't know how many years that I forgot my knife this morning, and I feel like, "Where's my knife? I don't have my knife." [laughs] Yeah.
• 11:01
  [laughs] I had to put the razor knife in there from the shop drawer just to have something there to be like... What. [laughs] So yeah. So- Uh, how about JK? What do you, what do you like for, uh, cool weather gear?
• 11:13
  You're more of a practical guy going to work and- Yeah... yeah. Yeah. Um, looking forward to cracking out the lobster claws. Oh, that's cold weather. [laughs] Well, even so, I mean, I'll...
• 11:27
  They fit, and they're comfy, and I can, you know, when it gets to like in the 40s, I can rationalize wearing them. Yeah.
• 11:35
  I like- I mean, I'll be sweating through when I get done, but it, I'm not sweating through and taking them out in zero degree and, uh- I forgot which ones you have. Louis Garneau's or something?
• 11:44
  No, I, uh, picked up the Bontrager. Oh, Bontrager. Yeah. I had the, uh- Ah... I had the, uh, Zoomie, Pearl Zoomies for a while, but they just wore out a- well, after seven years. Yeah. So. That's a good life.
• 11:58
  Yeah, exactly. It's a good life- And-... for a glove... and the gaiters, the 45NRTH. I can't remember the name. Hur- Oh. Something Hammerin'... Burr Grabbin', Grabbin' and something. Yeah. And, and, yeah.
• 12:09
  Those are toasty on the, uh- Oh, yeah... nice, nice and toasty and water and everything, uh, when it gets really cold out there. I know they originally made those to work with the, uh, Wolf Hammer boot, but- Yeah...
• 12:20
  they end up working well with just- With everything... about anything. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.
• 12:23
  Except I found their sizing kinda weird because it's like I would normally wear a medium, but in there I might wear, like the extra large isn't really that much too big. No.
• 12:31
  Can't get 'em anymore except I think I have one more pair here if anybody really wants 'em. Sorry I fast-forwarded right into winter [laughs] Right into winter. Yeah. [laughs] Yeah. [laughs] Yeah. Fall.
• 12:40
  Well, you said cold weather. [laughs] Yeah. As lo- [laughs] As long as the, uh, the weather doesn't fast-forward into winter- Well, I just wanna keep it all- Right. Exactly... we're all good to go.
• 12:47
  I just wanna keep it all, yeah. Yeah. Keep it all front of mind, so. I'm, uh, I'm...
• 12:51
  Like, I hate to be this poster child, but I'm, like, when it gets to this weather and I'm either commuting to work or in a ride where there's just even the remotest chance of rain, um, I'm like the poster child for Showers Pass.
• 13:06
  [laughs] Yeah. Yeah. It's embarrassing. Yeah. 'Cause, like, especially, like, coming up with, uh... Let's, let's pitch this, you know. Coming up with the, you know, the event coming up in Zion, um, the vet- Fun- Funduro.
• 13:20
  Funduro. Um, down in Metal Point. November 2nd and 3rd, Zion, Illinois. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Be there, be there, be there. We are. Um, I love their waterproof socks- Yeah... for walking in Lake Michigan. Hat, uh... Yep.
• 13:30
  It's just hilarious. It's like you can walk around in Lake Michigan and your feet are dry. Um, and I really enjoy e- even their inexpensive, well, inexpensive to them,
• 13:42
  rain gear is great for this type of weather as far as just keeping the wind off you to make your ride way more comfortable. Right on. That's kinda what I do, like, daily now with my commute. Yeah. Sweet.
• 13:55
  I, I was gonna go with, uh, a specific piece of clothing, like my Kids Push shirt, but, uh, I think my favorite thing is actually a really thin, uh, wool base layer. Yeah.
• 14:05
  Just something that's just, like, uh, as thin as you can get, and I, I get them from various places, even Eddie Bauer if they're on sale or something, 'cause I, I wear them all winter long. Yeah, me too.
• 14:16
  And I think that being under anything else you're wearing is a super awesome- I agree... thing, for sure. Oh, sorry. Also have the waterproof gloves from Showers Pass. Of, of course you do.
• 14:27
  [laughs] And they're also fantastic, although I recommend getting them in black because the, the day glow yellow gets dirty really fast. All right, folks. We got a call.
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  Let's, uh, let's check in with our, uh, our call-in line at 717-272-453. That spells bike. That spells bike. Welcome to the radio program. Caller, who do we have on the line? This is Big Sexy. [laughs] Jason. Big Sexy.
• 14:50
  What's up, Jason? How's it going? Not much. I'm, I'm, uh, south of Raleigh, North Carolina, on my way to Myrtle Beach. Right on.
• 14:59
  Yeah, we talked a little earlier in the day, Jason and I, to see, uh, what he was up to, and he said he wanted to be at Myrtle Beach for, uh, Halloween, but it looks like you're gonna wheel in there a little early. Yeah.
• 15:10
  I'm way ahead of schedule. Nice. Awesome. But that's okay. Yeah. So tell us how it's been going. You've, uh...
• 15:18
  Like, I, I can see from our, uh, little magic call-in studio, uh, call-in line that the last time we talked to you was September 4th. Technology lets me say- Yeah. Well- That's the last time we talked.
• 15:29
  So you've been out on the road now for another s- what? S- that's five weeks? Four and a half, five weeks? Yep. Yeah, um, I went, I went all the way, uh, to, through, through, uh, New Hampshire again, and then, um,
• 15:45
  then Boston. Boston was okay, and then my friend kidnapped me on the, on Cape Cod for, for four days. Can't be a bad place. And she spoiled me rotten, spoiled me rotten. I was sleeping on a couch.
• 15:59
  I was having a shower every day. I had kids asking me what I wanted for breakfast. I was like, "Wait a minute. What's going on here?" [laughs] Nice.
• 16:10
  [laughs] You know, and, and then, and then, uh, then they shoved me off and I went to Providence, Providence, uh, Hartford, and then New York City, and New York City was a blast. New York City is very bike friendly.
• 16:24
  It is. Yep. Wow. Right on. I, I, I'll tell you what. They got bike lanes. They got bike lights. They got green lights, yellow lights, and red lights for bikes. Yep. They're pro- See... they're protected bike lanes...
• 16:39
  the only thing you gotta really watch out for, the only thing you gotta watch out for is the pedestrians. Pedestrians in New York, they don't, they don't know what the big red hand means.
• 16:45
  [laughs] Yeah, for sure, and cars and bikes and motorcycles and taxis. That big red... I'm like, "Hey, look at that big red hand." They're like, "What? What? That's a big red hand? What is that supposed to mean?"
• 16:56
  Like, "It just means don't walk, asshole." [laughs] Right on, man. So how's the machine holding up? Oh, man. We did, we had to replace the r- the right drive wheel again. It's the fifth time.
• 17:14
  It's the fifth wheel that I put on the right side of my, on my vehicle, but I, I do, I do put it through a lot, I guess. To remind our listeners- Yeah... uh, Big Sexy's riding a Schwinn Meridian tricycle. Yeah.
• 17:30
  So, so the right- Sexy's [laughs]... right drive wheel... single speed. Yeah. [laughs] Single speed. Not even a three speed. Right. Right drive wheel. Oh. So just people thinking two, "What? Right drive wheel?" Yep. Yep.
• 17:38
  Tri- But there's three wheels on there- Yeah. Three wheels... but only one of them drives. It's the wheel and not the tire, right? That's crazy.
• 17:45
  Unfortunately, it's the only wheel that drives the bike, so I'm, I'm, I'm- [laughs]... I mean, with, with all my kids.
• 17:52
  I mean, m- I don't, I don't blame it for breaking every once in a while, but, um, it seems that it, uh... But I, I was, I was nursing it. It was, it was already broken in Boston, and I rode it all the way to Raleigh,
• 18:06
  and I finally got a replacement wheel 'cause I, I mean, it, m- m- it was wobbling. We, we were looking kinda ridiculous, like a cartoon, cartoon bike going down the road with a wobbly wheel. [laughs] Wow. Dig it, man.
• 18:20
  Yeah. So you're in, uh, you're in North Carolina now. What's, what's the rest of your trip look like? Uh, Myrtle Beach, then we gotta cut over to Columbia, South Carolina, 'cause that's the capital.
• 18:33
  And then the Savannah, Georgia, we got some tourist scene pictures to take. Um- And then, uh, Tampa to see my mom, and then, uh, on to New Orleans. Ta- Tallahassee and then New Orleans Nice.
• 18:46
  When, when do you figure on being in, uh, Tampa? Tampa? I'm thinking Thanksgiving. Ah, okay. We got a buddy that's gonna head down there.
• 18:54
  I don't know if it's gonna be the same timeframe, but if, uh, if so, he's a fat biker- Well, I mean- [laughs]... from up here, and we'll, we'll hook him up with you.
• 19:01
  If, if I, if I'm gonna, if I'm gonna be in Tampa for Thanksgiving, I gotta really put the brakes on. I gotta really start and, like- [laughs]...
• 19:07
  stopping and enjoying some of these little towns I go through because, because I'm going way too fast if, if I'm gonna, if I'm gonna be in Tampa for Thanksgiving.
• 19:18
  What do you figure your- So- How much are you doing per day? Is that, I mean, I'm sure there's a, an average. How many miles per day- Okay... do you think? The, the most, the most I did was from Orange, Connecticut,
• 19:30
  Orange, Connecticut, to the Bronx neighborhood, or the borough, the Bronx borough in New York City. That was 76 miles in one day. That's the most I've ever done. Wow. [laughs] Damn. That's amazing on that bike.
• 19:43
  That's incredible. [laughs] That is. That was through, like, like, Greenwich, Connecticut. That was, that was, like, through, like, major traffic too. I, I, I was moving that day. Was that, like, 16 hours? Um, let's see.
• 19:59
  I left, uh, about, it was about 8:00 AM to about 10:00 PM. Yeah, so it was about, it, it was a little bit, about, about 14 hours. Wow. Yeah. Nice work. Yeah. Good job, man. That's moving.
• 20:11
  Well, stopping at gas stations, and taking breathers, and putting on my sign, and I don't know. Right. It was great.
• 20:20
  Hey, it's a, a reminder to the folks listening that Jason is, uh, he likes to get a couple of bucks every once in a while along the way, so if you feel like supporting his ride, uh, we'll have a link in the show notes where you can, can sh- send him a couple of shekels.
• 20:34
  Yeah, so he can grab a beer or something. Or replace that wheel again.
• 20:37
  [laughs] I'm guessing, I'm g- I'm really hoping I don't have to replace it until I, until I leave New Orleans after Mardi Gras, and I'm, I'm, I'm the second leg. I've already started planning it. Right on. I should,
• 20:52
  I shouldn't be planning it because I should be staying in New Orleans for a little bit, but I'm alr- I'm already looking at the second leg. [laughs] And that's heading west? No, I'm gonna go, um,
• 21:05
  I'm gonna go Austin, Austin, Oklahoma City, Topeka, Lincoln, Peory, Bismarck, back through Minnesota, Des Moines- Oh, that, uh-... uh, Jefferson City, Illinois- That looks pretty cool... Indianapolis.
• 21:21
  I'm gonna, I'm gonna just, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do the, the ones that I didn't do this time. Gotcha. Yeah, that's a good route, like straight up and straight down almost. Yeah. Yeah.
• 21:32
  It'll take me most of the spring to get up that way, so it, it'll be summer by then, and I'll be heading back down. Sounds good. Well, keep checking in with us.
• 21:42
  It's good to hear you're still out there and you're still doing the thing, and, uh, we look forward to talking to you in another few weeks and see where you're at. Sure.
• 21:50
  Um, yeah, yeah, I'll give it a couple weeks to call you all back, and, uh, and let you know. And I'll tell you what,
• 21:57
  some of these people that I've, that I've ran into on the road are some of the most amazing people in the whole wide world, and they're hidden.
• 22:09
  Like, you, you would never, you'd n- never believe that in a little town of Henderson, North Carolina, that some, this one dude sat down next to me and we talked for hours, and he was just such an amazing guy.
• 22:24
  It's like, "Where are you, why are you hiding?" [laughs] "Why aren't you being looked up to by everybody in the whole wide world? Because you're the real deal." Very good. Nice. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure.
• 22:38
  Yeah. Maybe by being a little hidden they can keep their sanity a little more easily than the rest of us. I guess. I guess that, that has to be part of it. Cool. Well, thanks, Jason, for calling in. No problem.
• 22:49
  I really appreciate talking to you. No problem. [laughs] All right, man. If you're driving your car and you come up behind a bicyclist, what do you do first? Take your foot off the gas pedal. Right on. Right.
• 23:01
  Words to live by from a guy who's doing the living. People need to slow, people need to slow down in this country. Slow down. You're not late for Jeopardy!. [laughs] Unless there's, you know. Yeah, right.
• 23:13
  [laughs] All right, man. Thanks again. Cool. We'll talk to you later. All right, guys. Take it easy. Bye. Bye. Oh, Jason- Big- Jason from out on the road there... fat guy. [laughs] Big Sexy riding, riding that Meridian.
• 23:26
  70 what? Two miles? 76 miles. Ooh, yeah. 76 miles in one day? I mean, it's taxing me to do that many. Let's, let's, let's- On a single speed? What... Yeah, but I, I mean,
• 23:35
  let's, there's a maximum speed on the [laughs] bike. [laughs] There's a maximum speed, right? I mean- Even downhill. I mean, that's, that's- Yeah, because, because the rear wheel trikes are just not stable at, at turns.
• 23:48
  You know what I mean? Uh-huh. So you can only go so fast or you're gonna flip, but, uh, I gotta give that guy credit. Yeah. Yeah, he's making it work, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, excuse me. Excuse me. [bell ringing] Oh.
• 24:03
  Top of the hill, folks. Top of the hill. We're here now. Talking about the beer for tonight. Let's beer talk for a minute here. Uh, JK brought us a can of Bliss from, uh- The old Oskar Blues... Os- Oskar Blues.
• 24:17
  I hope, yeah. Pack it in, pack it out. Yeah, it's also got the, uh, the bottle hole right there- Yeah, exactly... you can make your little pipe with and all that. Oh. Ah, these guys- Although-...
• 24:25
  have thought of everything. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's in a pretty good spot. [laughs] Anytime I show that to somebody, they're just, "What?" [laughs] That's genius.
• 24:34
  [laughs] I, I think Oskar Blues was one of the first, uh, breweries to can- Yep... again when they were a- Well- Yeah... an exclusive. Yeah... yeah, as a, um, as a- Well, as a Colorado brewery-... macro microbrew...
• 24:44
  and wanting people to use them for camping, they wanted you to be able to bring them in and bring them out. Pack it in, pack it out. Pack it in, pack it out. Yeah.
• 24:50
  That's the deal, so- Way better than carrying bottles However you wanna ride it, pack it in, pack it out. You know? Yeah. You know what I mean? [laughs] It's a, it's a citrus IPA. It's actually really tasty.
• 24:59
  Yes, it's- Mine's gone. Uh, Mountain- It's also 7.2% [laughs] alcohol by volume. [laughs] Yeah. Oh, mine's gone. So- It just went down, like- Mountain India Pale Ale. Mountain. You know, what does- No seeds, no stems.
• 25:12
  No pulp. No pulp. What does Citrusky Business mean on the bottom there? I don't know what that means. It, maybe it means- Uh-... it's John Trusky's birthday. Yeah, right. [laughs] Yeah, maybe.
• 25:20
  [laughs] Happy birthday, John Trusky. Uh, five different kind of hops, allegedly- Wow... apparently. It's, it's- I'm just reading the back... it's flavorful, that's for sure. Yeah, it's, it's fantastic.
• 25:30
  Yeah, it's deceptively f- I mean, that 7.2 could... Yeah, it could send you. Yeah. And here's to doing that. [laughs] Yeah. Wait, let me open this. Curtain. I, I'm the only one without one of those.
• 25:42
  He's drinking a local beer. There's another one here if you wish. Good City Leo Belgian White. Uh, oh. How do you like changing beers and the styles in the middle of your- I'm, I'm- Changing horses in midstream...
• 25:52
  I'm, I'm completely open to that. [laughs] Uh- Belgian style white- If the, if the whiskey comes out I can, I can- You know... change my, change lanes into that lane as well.
• 26:03
  [laughs] I, I can do that lane change quickly. Um- That's a, we haven't really- Same with Vernette. Um, yeah. We have not whiskey'd the, uh, the whiskey trail here yet, or the bourbon trail. Yeah.
• 26:13
  The, uh- Speaking, speaking of trails- The, the most, the most recent bottle I'm, uh, I'm sitting on is a, uh, that Skrewball, the peanut butter whiskey. Ooh. It doesn't smell good. Wait, what? I'm not sure. No.
• 26:26
  It smell, I mean, it tastes like the scratch and sniff version of- [laughs] That's-... peanut butter. No. It does, it does kind of work out in hot chocolate. Oh. I was trying to find a good delivery system.
• 26:35
  Okay, that I could see. That I could see. I was trying to find a good delivery system for it. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. I was like, coffee and hot chocolate. Good thinking. That's, uh, where I came up with.
• 26:45
  So until I buy another bottle. [laughs] I, you wouldn't want... I know. I, it's not even flask worthy.
• 26:52
  Won't even- So who's, uh- I, I did try, I tried something new that I saw the other day if, as long as we're in the alcohol, um, discussion here still. Um, Yahara Bay makes now, uh, three different old fashioned mixes.
• 27:05
  Not to mix with, with, one with their rye whiskey, one with their bourbon, and one with their brandy. Okay.
• 27:11
  And, uh, I, I tasted, I only tasted the, the brandy one, and my benchmark for the pre-made stuff is, is Soulboxer, which is local around here, and I, I think Soulboxer still wins.
• 27:25
  I didn't try the rye or the bourbon, so maybe they're different, but, uh, I think Soulboxer, Soulboxer wins. But it's nice to see other, other, uh, local distillers doing that stuff. Yeah, for sure.
• 27:37
  So, uh, Zito asked that we call him, so should we call him? Call him what? Call him what? [laughs] Oh, that Zito. You know, you know- The- You know, uh, before we call Zito, you know, I- Too late. Oh, I had an idea.
• 27:51
  [laughs] I had an idea for a show about Zito, a television sitcom. A messenger show. Is that just Kramer? It was called O-, it was called Oh, That Zito. [laughs] And the me- Hey, guys. Hey, Chris. Oh, Oh, That Zito. Hey.
• 28:06
  How are you? Good. Mr. Chris Zito, ladies and gentlemen. What's going on, you guys? Talking to you on the phone. How are you tonight? Doing fine. All right. Well, how's it going tonight? We're doing awesome.
• 28:18
  And how are you? You're gonna ask me how- I'm fine... what's happening? Everything's good here. We're all good. Everything's fine. Pack it in, pack it out. Excellent. I'm getting really excited about this weekend.
• 28:27
  We got, chicken is all ordered from Pulse Family Market. We got beer coming. I got the whiskey. Sterling set up a table full of prizes. We're gonna have a good time. Jungle Cross. We're speaking Jungle Cross.
• 28:40
  Jungle Cross 7, October 13th, Sunday. Sunday. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Sunday, October 13th. What did you set for the- It's gonna be a good time. And then... I'm sorry, go ahead.
• 28:50
  What'd you set for the registration time, and where? Uh, at, the registration time is at the St. Paul Fish Market Tiki Bar in the Public Market
• 29:00
  from 10:00 to 11:00, and probably between 11:00 and 11:30 we'll get the stragglers in and then give everyone a little info.
• 29:09
  We'll do a group ride to the course, then we'll give everybody a little time to do a couple laps of the course. And then at high noon we'll race. Right on. Sounds like fun. I, we, Zito and I- Yeah...
• 29:21
  went down there Monday and did a bunch of, uh, walking and marking and trudging and stuff, and it's gonna be a cool course. Yeah. I think, uh, you and Mike both had GPS's that said, uh,
• 29:33
  it was about 8/10 of a mile, which I don't, I'm not sure, 'cause that was pretty quick, 8/10 of a mile- Yeah... for fat fuckers like us. Yeah. I'm, I'm wondering about the GPS under all those bridges, how accurate it is.
• 29:43
  Yeah. But, uh- Yeah, it put, it put me in the canal- [laughs]... on one part of the tracking, [laughs] so. Back home, you mean? Like back home? No. No. Canal Street. Oh, I thought you meant in the canal.
• 29:56
  I was like, "Oh, you can say hi to your mom while you're there." Wow. Ba-dum, ba-dum, boom. I've reverted to mom jokes. Sorry. [laughs] Already. Oh, that Zito. [laughs] I think because of the- Da, da, da, da, da...
• 30:07
  I think it's because of the delay, the original joke didn't go over. [laughs] But, uh, yeah, it's gonna be a good time.
• 30:12
  And, uh, I'm working with, uh, the incomparable Jeremy Prucha and the folks at the Harley Davidson Museum to put, uh, the Rumble Cross on, on the grounds of the Harley Davidson Museum on Thursday, Halloween the 31st.
• 30:27
  Yeah. Hm. And it'll be cos- costume competition, the usual shenanigans. Yep. Predominantly concrete, though. It's gonna be quite mazey. Yeah.
• 30:37
  We did a pre-ride down there to check it out, and there's a lot of room down there. Yeah. Yeah.
• 30:41
  Uh, well, depending on, they want to accentuate the bike night and kinda wanna make it a spectator thing, so we're gonna try and keep the course, you know, built for 40 people.
• 30:51
  If we get 100 people, we'll just have it ready to go longer. Right on. Yeah. Yeah. Sh- short course stuff is interesting, I think. Uh, gives spectators something to watch for a while
• 31:01
  Yeah, we're gonna get together and build a bunch of st- uh, st- obstacles to go over, ride over and stuff. So we'll see what happens. Cool. Sounds good. That's all in the works. Are you doing Biketoberfest? I am.
• 31:14
  That's always a great ride. Yeah, yeah. That's tonight. [laughs] I'll see how late I can stay out. No, it's- It's tonight when- Friday... when this show is. It's tonight when- Yeah, tonight when this show is...
• 31:23
  we're airing on- It's airing, yeah... on Friday, so yeah. We're, we're in the future already. Oh, all right, yeah. [laughs] Hot dog. October 11th, folks. Hot dog. Hey, my sister's birthday is tomorrow. What?
• 31:33
  What is- Happy birthday, Jenny. How's it going? What is it like in the future? [laughs] Are people still funny and they have their stories? [laughs] All right, dude, you got anything else you wanna tell us? Uh, no.
• 31:48
  Looking for, we're looking for volunteers. Volunteers. Need to fill the registration. We need some people to do handups. Looking for a cargo biker.
• 31:56
  I don't know if we can count on the Breakaway guys to show up, but, uh, we'll see what happens. Cool. Well, I'm looking forward to it. Yep. Gonna be good cyclocross- Oh, I'm sure... weather in the- I'm looking...
• 32:05
  the high 40s. Yeah. If I don't see you all before then, I'll see you Friday night. Tonight. Tonight. Tonight. [laughs] Oh, yeah, I'll see you later. All right. See you later. Bye. Bye. Bye, Chris. Happy day. Yep.
• 32:23
  Oh, that Zito. Ladies and gentlemen. Oh, that Z- Oh, that Zito. [laughs] I thought it'd be a really great show because, like, the vast majority of the show would take place in an elevator.
• 32:30
  You know, like, uh, on your way up to a floor to do a delivery. You doing a delivery. [laughs] Yeah, right. It, it'd be all elevators and like, you know- Oh... turning over a package to somebody at a counter, you know?
• 32:41
  I mean, it, it'd be pre- [laughs] Kind of sounds like a takeoff of Portlandia. [laughs] This is way pre-Portlandia when this idea came. Yeah. For sure. That'd be great. Good stuff.
• 32:52
  Hey, I, I listened to, uh, the Danger Nome podcast today. Gomez from Fatbike.com's show where he interviews people kinda one on one, and, uh, he gave a plug to the old Full Spectrum Cycling show here. Hey. Whoa.
• 33:07
  Thank you. Yeah. Thanks, Joe Gomez. Thanks, Gomez.
• 33:09
  You know, I, I would, I think that maybe it's something that we could, uh, add as a regular or semi-regular feature this to, um, plug, um, some other podcasts, um, around the state that are doing good things.
• 33:21
  I know of a couple of 'em that, um, are new, new cycling, um, podcasts that people might be interested in, so. Yeah, it'd be awesome. Get those guys on the show or gals or, uh, chickens or whatever- Yeah, middens.
• 33:31
  Yeah... and talk to people about their shows. Yeah. For sure. I don't know if you, you saw it, like, uh, Driftless Region has got one now. Uh, they started with La Crosse.
• 33:39
  There's a Driftless Region, uh, podcast on cycling in La Crosse area and Driftless region and- Is it with, uh, uh, Beer By Bike Brigade? I don't think so. Um- 'Cause I ran into those guys- Yeah... at times.
• 33:53
  Yeah, Mario- Yeah... Kevin and, yeah. I know who they are. They have a- Yeah... a fun thing going up there. But, uh, um, yeah, that, that's an int- I only saw one-
• 34:02
  Yeah, as, as, I, I just keep seeing things coming up in La Crosse and it's fun.
• 34:05
  But that area definitely could use a, a, uh, a cycling st- They interviewed, uh, uh, um, owner of Blue Dog Cycles, um, who's, who's been real instrumental- Yeah...
• 34:14
  in putting it, putting together Vernon County trails, and he runs the, uh, Dairy Bay now- Mm-hmm... and stuff like that after Stuart Michel gave it up.
• 34:21
  And, uh, another great one I, I'm a regular listener to is, uh, is, uh, um, CAMBA Country. Um, the CAM- uh, Shawano Area Mountain Bike Association podcast with Ben Wellnek and Joel Vadeboncoeur, AKA Joel V.
• 34:38
  Um, and, uh, that's a really great podcast. And Ben would be a good guy. He's Mountain Bike Radio, Ben as well. He- Sure, yeah, he's got several podcasts- Yeah, right... on that network, right? Right, right.
• 34:48
  Yeah, he'd be a good guy to get on this one, but- And they're not just Wisconsin, they're nationwide. Some of them are other, oth- The, the Mountain Bike Radio is, yeah, it's- Other parts of the country... yeah, it is.
• 34:56
  CAMBA Country is, is obviously all CAMBA. Um, and it's, it's, uh, it's a, a pretty informational, um, podcast as well. We ever get Judge Jerry on that one? I don't think they've had Jerry on it yet.
• 35:08
  Um, but they've had, like, Scott Chapin and a bunch of other local luminaries up there, Cindy Swift and- Scott's my insurance guy, by the way. Is he? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Mark, Mark Len- Scott Chapin up there. Yeah.
• 35:18
  They do tons of bike shops and- I know what you're doing. And he's, he's a super legit guy and, and is Mr. Gravel up there. Nice. Yeah. Um, so. Awesome. Yeah, we should get some of those guys on.
• 35:32
  We will endeavor to do that. Huh. What else we gotta talk about? Some- Got some, uh, club ride gear for fall in the shop. Some- It's good looking too. Yeah. Yeah, good smelling. And, and reasonably- [laughs] Stop it...
• 35:43
  it will not hurt your pocket too much. Not, yeah, not like Kitsbow, baby. Yeah. It's- And it's stylish. It's, you don't look like a jamoke going into the bar after- Right... you've been on a ride for a while.
• 35:53
  [laughs] Right. It's not gonna be all kids and girlfriend. Speak, speaking of, or I wanna s- Hey- Yeah, what?... I got off my bike and look at me. Yeah. Look at me. [laughs] Look at... No, the eye's up here, baby.
• 36:05
  [laughs] I, I wanna slightly backtrack, but, uh, Biketoberfest, you know, I don't know if we pitched it enough. Um, it's Friday, it's tonight,
• 36:16
  and it's generally for people that have not done it, it, it starts in Bay View and heads south. Yes. And east. A general southern and wrap back around- Right... direction. How many miles? Don't know.
• 36:30
  Say, I, uh- Nobody knows... I don't know. Well, no. Bill last week had said it was like in the 12, 15-ish. Oh. Oh, that's not too bad. You know? Some of his rides have gone pretty far south and- Yeah. Well, it, it, well,
• 36:41
  it, but mentally, y- But if it- Like, so sometimes you just feel like you're going- It all depends on- You just keep going... it all depends on his route. But- If his route goes- Yeah...
• 36:47
  15 miles straight south and then just leaves you there- Yeah... then- Yeah... which, which could happen- He's gone... which could happen. No, not really...
• 36:53
  actually one year, one year we did this ride- No, it, like, stops and then it's like, just so you have to just wait and it's like, "Oh, we're gonna be heading back up to KK in a second."
• 37:00
  We did it one year and Sven rode the River West 24 fat bike- And we ended up somewhere by the airport, and there was like an AC/DC cover band or something. Yeah, Hand of Doom, baby.
• 37:12
  And you went inside, and I was like- Sabbath... waiting for you to come out so I could go get a beer. And I'm like, "Oh, man, he's not coming out." Oh, 'cause the band was good.
• 37:20
  [laughs] And then- We were, we were right on the corner. Z and I were standing- And then-... right on the corner of the lot... and then I remembered. Is that Bill Brunkie's band? I don't know.
• 37:26
  They're a, they're a definitely a, uh- They play at Bill-... Sabbath cover band... they, oh. I think they're from Minneapolis, actually. Oh, it's Sabbath. Yeah. Not, I thought you said AC/DC. Yeah, I did. Sabbath.
• 37:34
  I, I was wrong. I, yeah. Not Hand of Doom. I remember the show. Sabbath. But then I realized Greg was riding the River West 24 bike, which means... There's beer in it. It's got a flask. [laughs] Yeah. Flask.
• 37:45
  So fortunately, I was able to sit outside and sip a little whiskey while I waited for the show to come. Right on. It was fun. Well, Bill doesn't necessarily want eight gazillion people on that ride.
• 37:55
  No, uh, in, in fact, there's- So he, that's part of the reason- Yeah... why he keeps it a little bit on the- Yeah... uh, lowdown, I'll, I'll, to not use a pun. Yeah. Actually.
• 38:02
  Well, yeah, when he was on last week, you know, it was, it w- uh, it was kinda surprising at, to a, to a degree. 'Cause I, I always am akin to it being, you know, kinda very guerrilla. Yeah. It's fun, though. Yeah. Yeah.
• 38:14
  But it's, it's- But it is guerrilla... such a way, I mean, you can't be too guerrilla or else you're not gonna have anybody on the ride. There's a Facebook event, I mean. Not an event.
• 38:20
  Yeah, well, most of the places- Not an event, just a, the post... that you wanna go to these days, you, you can't have 300 people at them, and that's- Right... kind of the whole idea is. That's part of it.
• 38:26
  You don't want people- That's part of it all... standing outside these places- Yeah. If you-... drinking out on the street. You don't want them- Right, right...
• 38:30
  you know, causing trouble and making a lot of racket for the bar owners and... Oh, and- Yeah... talking about bike events, and I'm like, I'm like all over the board right now, but Bike Prom- Right, all over the board...
• 38:40
  Bike Prom's coming up at Company Brewing. Trash Fest? Is that what they're calling it this year? I believe so. Trash F- Not Trash Fest. Trash Fest was, like, an old punk show in Milwaukee way back when.
• 38:53
  That's what this one's called for some reason. Yeah. Is it? Yeah. Did you put the poster up in the hallway? I did. It is up in the hallway at the shop should you wanna check it out. Yes.
• 39:00
  Sounds like they're building a crazy swing. All the, all the organizers are too young to remember- [laughs]... really [laughs] Trash Fest. Yeah, this is the old- Like, how dare you...
• 39:07
  this is the old- This is, like, hot topic. [laughs]... the old Mike Dad podcast now. Dead Kenny, sure. [laughs] What, you got a Von Manzon? Yeah. Von Manzon vinyl variety show.
• 39:19
  It does have these right here with the glow in the dark claw. Yes. Oh, that's cool. That has held up lo these many years. It is in really good shape for as old as that is.
• 39:26
  Well, hey, before we forget- It's starting to fly away... I got a reminder for the season change, which I would usually do four times a year probably. [laughs] Hmm, mm-hmm. Don't forget to lube your seat post, folks.
• 39:36
  Lube. Been, been working on Chad's Moonlander here for a little bit and- Yeah... I think I actually have a plan now to finally finish it off. You might get- But we're getting close. Get a Hulk rage out.
• 39:47
  He just didn't wanna go the lie route. I thought that was the most- Lie is the way to go... logical way to go, but. Especially considering that thing needs a paint job anyway. Yeah.
• 39:54
  But we'll get it out of there sooner or later. We're actually making- Yeah, paint jobs. Yeah. Oh, yeah, JK's, uh, fat bike. Oh, my God, you still don't have your fat bike back. Yeah. We, it'll be back soon. Greg.
• 40:04
  Don't look at me. No. Powder coater, man. Look at your bike. Powder coater. I'm gonna lay it all on that guy. Hey, hey, that's what I've been doing. Looking through the turtle. Looking through the turtle.
• 40:11
  Patience is a virtue. Turtle. So JK's bike will be back before w- before winter was the goal. [laughs] Yeah. [laughs] I kept my expectations really fuck low. [laughs] You got other bikes to ride. You're okay.
• 40:23
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Even though the brake went kablooey and then went re-kablooey today. Oh. Less- Kabloo. So I've been working on something, [laughs] uh, interesting with the guys at Chumba. Chumba? What's that?
• 40:35
  Well, you know I bought all those, uh, Ursa Majors, their fat bike, their tie bike, which is super awesome, that we've had, you know, several people have purchased.
• 40:44
  And it's started, it started to look like that we would just kinda run out of them. But, um, we're in the middle of working out something with, uh, Vince at Chumba to get more of these things.
• 40:55
  So, uh, aside from making a little couple design changes to make it just a little easier to make, and, um, kinda hold the cost increase, 'cause it was gonna get kinda silly on how much they would have to charge to do these.
• 41:07
  Um, we should have some news probably, well, hopefully by next show about what we're planning to do, and get a full-size run again and, uh- Still tie, or are you gonna go steel? Still tie, baby. Absolutely.
• 41:21
  Tie, tie, tie. Yeah. And, uh, we'll, we'll- See, you guys all turned that way, and all I had to do was go like that. Yeah. This one right here. The whole time you guys are talking about shit.
• 41:27
  Well, I was looking to see how many there was left hanging on the wall. No, yeah, this is like a sports bar with, like, multiple TVs on. We still have them. I'm watching the same game.
• 41:33
  You're over there, and yeah, we're watching the same game. You're choosing over there. It's not like we're totally out yet, but I didn't wanna put a whole bunch of effort promoting something- [laughs]...
• 41:39
  and getting a bunch of people excited about something we can never make again, so. Oh. Yeah. Well, that's the- This is basically the deal where we now have a, a path to make more of these things and, uh- The teaser...
• 41:49
  continue to make one of the best fat bikes out there made in the United States out of titanium, folks. Mm-hmm. Uh, available. USA. USA. Texas.
• 41:58
  Yeah, by people who really, really do sweat the details and, and ride the bikes and know why they're doing what they're doing. It's all for a reason. Mm-hmm. Absolutatively. Uh, uh, uh.
• 42:09
  When it's said and done, it's not that much more than buying some sort of over-the-counter- High-end... high-end- Yeah... you know, that you don't know where it was made and who made it.
• 42:19
  Yeah, I think- And here you, like, you know the people... well, I think they undervalued it before. They had it at a price where a lot of titanium bikes out of Taiwan or China are priced. Mm-hmm.
• 42:27
  And it's like these things are made in the US. Way better. You kind of expect to pay a little more money for made in the USA goodness. Yeah. So- Yeah...
• 42:34
  they are not gonna probably be quite as good a value as they were in the past, uh, but they're gonna be affordable. And they'll have a lot of the same features that make them some of the best 197 5" fat bikes out there.
• 42:48
  Nice. So, but don't hesitate to call on the ones we still have here, 'cause these are pretty sweet. They're gorgeous. And as, as the models go ahead, they're gonna have a slight change to the design just to,
• 42:59
  to make, uh, them a little easier to make. That little handle-y area I think is gonna kinda go away, the, the brace. So- Yeah... I don't, uh, personally, I don't, I don't find it attractive anyway.
• 43:12
  And, um, I think- I find it, like, after I thought-... it's probably overbuild. Yeah. And, um- Yeah, the, the top tubes will go up a little bit to keep the strength and- Yeah...
• 43:20
  you know, it'll just- If, if they can increase the size of the, um, the space in the frame triangle as well, that's better for bike packing bags. Absolutely. Gets a little more room there as well, so- Yeah...
• 43:30
  I don't think it's really a sacrifice. I think it might just be a change, makes them easier and maybe makes them better bikes. Yep. Well, we're gonna, we're gonna have a gen two. Gen two. Gen two.
• 43:42
  Uh, all righty, anybody you... Dave, you got anything else you wanna rap about before we wrap this up? I don't, I don't think so. Rap. I don't think so. Visit Wausau. Yeah, that's, uh- Or, uh, Ringel.
• 43:52
  That was the, that's the theme of the show, folks. Wausau, Wisconsin. Yeah, Wausau sounds like it's a shit ton of fun. That's W-A-U-S-A-U. Visit Wausau. War. War. Definitely. War. War.
• 44:01
  Definitely go to Red Eye Brewing, owned by Kevin, who's, uh, the place is filled, the ceiling is covered with vintage bikes, a really cool vintage- Nice... bike collection, and very good beer.
• 44:11
  What's the name of that again? Red Eye Brewing. Red Eye. And excellent food. Um, so not only, not only is there great beer, um, there's great food, and there's really cool bikes all over the place. Right on, right on.
• 44:23
  Maybe we should do a podcast from there. We should do podcasts from all over this- Oh... great state. But wouldn't it be a blast to just roll up there and- Do not mean on demand radio... an on demand radio show.
• 44:36
  Right, yeah. On demand radio. Since podcasts is yesterday. On demand radio, not a podcast. Right. I, I dropped the, I dropped the podcast from the name. Sorry. I went to the dark side- Well, you know, there's a-...
• 44:44
  with Ron Kuznerrr. [laughs] There's a, there's a few folks I listen to about what the state of the, uh, the on demand radio market is. And one of their things is you don't have to say everything, everything podcast.
• 44:58
  You just say Full Spectrum Cycling, and you leave it at that. Exactly. So- All right... um- Full Spectrum... thanks, guys- Screw that apple juice, I tell you... for being here in the studio, Dave, and, uh- You bet.
• 45:09
  You can keep that... and the normal crew. Thanks to our caller, Jason, riding around there in North Carolina now. And of course, O that Zito. O that Zito. Da, da, da. Now I have to throw a snap right at him.
• 45:21
  [laughs] I did, I got him on Sunday at, at the Packer game. Yeah. Oh, Lord. It was fun. [laughs] It was good. It was a good one. All right, guys. [laughs] We'll catch you next week. Bye bye.
• 45:37
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