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Episode 6 - How to Avoid ENM Disaster: Research Styles That Make You Dangerous · The Bull Brotherhood

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and open -minded explorers, we see you. Let's
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go. Ladies and gentlemen, good evening and welcome
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to another informative episode of the Bull Brotherhood
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podcast. I'm one third of your podcast team,
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the Sigma male himself, Brian Morgan, and along
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with my family, the beautiful Siren. Say hello,
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Siren. Hello. And my brother from another mother,
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I call him aunt, excuse me, nephew himself, Socrates.
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What's good, brother? Nah, I call you Unk. What's
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good, y 'all? Excited about this one. Exactly,
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I messed that up. Ladies and gentlemen, tonight,
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as I said before, we got another very, very informative
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podcast. But I am actually sitting this one out
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tonight, taking the night off, and I'm letting
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my nephew, Socrates, lead this thing. We're going
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to talk about something that he really wants
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to get into tonight, as well as I want to listen
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to. And as a matter of fact, I'm going to turn
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it over to him right now and let him discuss
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exactly what he wants to do tonight. And to all
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the people out there listening, really, really
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get your headsets on. And he's got a lot to say.
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Go ahead, nephew. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So, you
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know, we could definitely want to include you
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guys on your input on certain things. But, you
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know, I am a big proponent of research. And so
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we thought we'd do a podcast for you fellow nerds.
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and other people who just feel better and operate
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better with a certain amount of information before
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you jump in. So, yeah, that's what we want to
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talk about. So let's just get straight into it.
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So we had talked about in the last episode, you
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know, when we were talking about the certain
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dynamics of cucks and the cuckold lifestyle,
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we kind of got into our research. And I've spoken
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of this before. The reason why this is so important
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to me is because when I first got into the lifestyle,
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I was like a lot of people. You know, I had an
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ethical. I mean, I had a monogamous mindset.
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What was that? You know, it was, you know, jealousy
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as a signal to stop. Right. Anytime another person
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touches your significant other is cheating. Right.
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People cannot be trusted. And everything that
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happens in porn and all of the bad news out there
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in the lifestyle is exactly what's happening.
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And even though I'm a really positive person,
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when it came to this situation, I kind of got
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into what's called a negative sorter. And that's
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just when someone looks at something and they
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need to make a decision. And some people look
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at all the negative things first. They're not
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negative people. They just kind of look at negative
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things first. And they want to see all the negative
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things that could go wrong. And then once they've
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done that and they feel comfortable that they
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have that under control, then they can start
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focusing on the positive. And I'm usually the
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opposite. But when it came to the lifestyle,
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when I first got into it, you know, I was really
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negative. And I was, you know, and here's the
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thing. I did not know how to research. And, you
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know, I had finally learned. I, you know, got
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into what it takes to research. And I just want
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to share. what, you know, the best way to go
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about researching and why it's important. So,
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you know, I don't like saying this a lot, and
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I'm not bragging, but we have so little drama
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in our relationship. And me and my wife go hard,
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guys. Like, even though we've only been doing
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this for, what, three years now? Three and a
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half. Three and a half years. Three and a half,
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yep. Three and a half years. Can y 'all believe
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that? Even though we've only been doing this
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for three and a half years, we've gone hard.
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And we talk to a lot of people. I talk to a lot
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of people. And they say, man, you guys go hard.
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And so, you know. Let me say something. Let me
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say something. Elaborate on what you're on. when
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you say we go hard. You know what I mean? Because
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a lot of the audience, they won't understand
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what you mean when you say, I know exactly what
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you mean. But that word hard, can you give a
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definition of hard as far as what y 'all's dynamic
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is and how much you may play, et cetera, et cetera.
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Siren, you stay out of this. I already know what
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she wanted to get. Her definition of hard is
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full of blood and erect. No, I was going to say
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thank you for stopping him and having that because
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some people's version of go hard might be once
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a month. Exactly. Other people's version might
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be just when they go on vacation and they go
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hard during that time. To answer that, for example,
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when I first talked to Siren, I explained everything
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to her. I tried to be as patient as possible,
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try not to pressure her. And it wasn't until
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she talked to another female in the lifestyle,
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she felt comfortable. But the thing about her
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is, ladies and gentlemen, once she's ready, and
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this is all of life for her. Once she's ready
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and set, she's ready and set. So she had talked
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to her friend. The second she talked to her friend,
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we had kind of like a tentative date to go up
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to this club in Seattle called Sapphire. Amazing
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club, by the way. Yeah, I recommend any of you
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ever in that area. I recommend you check it out.
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And she was like, OK, let's go. And I was like,
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well, I'm in the middle of some business stuff.
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Can we wait? And she's like, oh, she went anyway.
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Didn't go inside without me. And just loved it
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and was just, like, ready to go. And so the first
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time we went, you know, I was like, hey, you
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know, you don't have to, you know, be in a hurry.
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We don't have to do anything, you know, you don't
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feel comfortable with. You know, there's no rush
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if we just want to, you know, just talk and get
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to know people. She saw a very attractive brother,
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you know, actually who just happened to be there
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with a lesbian couple. and went up to him and
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asked if she can feel his arms, and that was
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it. I think we had played with three couples.
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Like them, that group, another couple. She just
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went balls to the wall. And then after that,
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it was kind of slow only because we were trying
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to find our way. But almost immediately, we got
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hooked up with a local gangbang community here.
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a guy that does gangbangs here big time. She
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jumped into that. I think the first time it was
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like 12 -man gangbang or something like that.
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Then we found out about Splash. We've told that
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story a thousand times. She went her first day.
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Her jaw dropped literally. I mean, have you seen
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them cartoons where people's jaw drops to the
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floor? Her jaw dropped and their eyes are wide
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open. She was stunned. All I needed to do was
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take her up to the room, fuck her, and give her
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a shot, and then she was gone. Now, on a good
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month, we might have, oh, this is what I'll say.
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A year ago, we had went to a, you know, Splash
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Mocha. She already had a play date because she's
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my slut secretary, which that means most of my
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play dates go through her. She handles them.
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She talks to the women. Women are much more comfortable
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when they can talk to me or when they can talk
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to the wife, knowing that I'm not, you know,
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men are not playing any games. I'm not hiding
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anything or anything. She had set up a play date
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immediately after Splash. Since that time a year
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ago, I have not had one weekend that I had available
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to play or week that I haven't played. Her numbers
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are starting to increase because we travel. So,
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you know, in a typical month, we might have two
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trips, you know, a play date once a week. And,
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you know, we had spent the weekend with a couple,
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and they were talking about their just crazy
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phase. And I think we're in the middle of our
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crazy phase right now. We're in the middle of
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doing events, doing this as a lifestyle business.
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Throwing our own parties, have our own separate
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play dates, having our own separate, you know,
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she'll leave town and do her own thing. We're
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in the middle of it. So, you know. You're in
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the born, you're in the born again phase. I like
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that. I like that. The two of you are in the
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born again phase. You know what I mean? And that
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is, that's exactly what I want the listeners
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to. Keep listening to and understand that every
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couple is different. You guys did your research.
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I don't know how much research you did before
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you finally, you know, got out there and said,
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hey, we trust each other enough to where we can
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play, you know, separately. And, you know, she
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can go on play dates to different places and
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et cetera, et cetera. For a lot of couples, that
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is not going to happen as fast as it happened
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for you two. You know what I'm saying? A lot
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of times couples might, it takes a while. It
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may take, hell, it might take a damn year to
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a year and a half before you ever venture to
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any type of event, you know? Or it might take
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a month and you go to an event and you realize
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that, hey, okay, this is good, but you do some
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extra research and then you go to something like
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a Splash Mocha or something close to a Splash
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and you find out, okay, we've evolved a little
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bit more. Now we go to a Super Bowl like Splash
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and boom, like I say, it's succotash. You know
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what I mean? And so that's the different, that's
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the different, that's one of the phases that
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I call it. And like I say, it's the born again
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phase. Okay, so I'm going to shut up. Keep going.
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No, no, Unc, I love it. That's another episode,
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y 'all. The phases of lifestyle. I like that.
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I got to jump into that slow start business.
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And when he means, I used to keep a tally, like
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everything that we would go to, a club or a gangbang
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or an event or even a solo play date. I used
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to just keep all the dates on a little note.
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And the first year, I got 67 dudes. So I don't
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think that that was too much of a slow start.
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But maybe he's talking about just the first couple
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months was a slow start. And after that, it was
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crazy. Here again, it depends on the couple.
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You guys got in and both of you were turned on,
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you know, not only by your individual, you know.
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statistics and results, but as a couple, you
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know, so you guys are definitely not the norm,
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right? You're not the norm. Okay. You're not
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the norm. And that does not happen often. That's,
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that's all I want to, you know, the fans to know
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that that does not happen often. So, you know,
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hats off to you guys to be able to do that so,
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so quickly. And here again, in, in just three
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years, you pretty much have become, you went
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from, you know, silver to gold and now you're
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down platinum. So great job. Reaching for diamond.
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I also want to say that, you know, one of the
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reasons that we were like, well, the biggest
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reason, and that's what this whole podcast is
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going to be about, that we were able to move
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through quickly like that because of the extensive
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amount of research. that Socrates did in the
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in -between time before I met him. When he was
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in the lifestyle with his ex -wife, it was one
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thing he was talking about, and he hadn't done
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the amount of research that he did by the time
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I met him. So he kind of had all of his rough
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times there and then figured out, hey, I need
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to do some digging. So that's what we really
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want to... emphasize in this podcast is that
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that's really what helped make it so much easier
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and quicker for me personally as a woman um was
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that he he had his ducks in a row he had his
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framework he had all this research to back up
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and it wasn't just you know willy -nilly all
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over the place so that really helped so go ahead
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babe he had a lesson he had a lesson plan he
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developed a lesson plan And you followed it to
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a T. Outstanding. Yeah, so I'm glad she told
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that story. She tells it better than I do. But,
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I mean, I pretty much made all of my mistakes
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in my first marriage when it comes to lifestyle.
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And I did not want to do that again to her, you
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know. I really feel bad that I made those mistakes
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with my ex, you know, because it caused a lot
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of problems. It caused a lot of confusion. It
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caused a lot of insecurities on her part. caused
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a lot of drama that was unnecessary. One of the
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things I did is I ended up in the wrong community.
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And when I say wrong, I mean not a good fit for
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me. So I was part of a half and half, what I
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call half and half community. I won't mention,
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well, I can. There used to be, there was a Facebook
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group called The Red Room. It's mostly down south.
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Shout out to all those people. Shout out to all
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the people that I'm still friends with. Shout
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out to all the people I'm not still friends with
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because, you know, I was drama and problems in
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there, too, because, again, here's the thing
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about me. When I don't do research, I'm not like
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most people. Most people can navigate and, you
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know, lean back on some basics. I fuck shit up.
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Facts. I fuck shit up. I'm not joking. That's
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not a cliche. That's not something to get, you
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know, clickbait. I'll fuck shit up. So I have
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to research. And so we're going to talk about
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the different kinds of, you know, things to look
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for, why you should research and your research
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style. I didn't even know about that until I
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did some research on it. So there's different
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research styles. The main reason why I think
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you should research as much as possible, and
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we'll get into the styles, so you don't have
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to be like me, right? You should research as
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much as possible. Now, I read several books,
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listened to thousands of hours of all kind of
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podcasts, talked to anybody that would listen
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to me, and I'm going to tell you, literally half
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the people after I talked to them, they did not
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want to talk to me after that because I would
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ask people questions so much that they thought
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I was interrogating them. You know, I was just
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really concerned about all the negativity that
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could happen, and I wanted to do everything I
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could to avoid it. So the biggest reason why
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is because ethical non -monogamy is a huge umbrella,
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huge umbrella. And so understanding the dynamics,
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understanding that these are guidelines and not
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boxes that you're going to be put in, not ways
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to be judged, not strict lines to follow. but
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guidelines to help you understand yourself, you
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know? So there's being ethical, non -monogamous
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is an umbrella under that umbrella. There's things
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like polyamory, which involves, I figure like
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that is the height of it because it involves
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everything. I know people who are poly that have
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romantic relationships, husbands, they got boyfriends,
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they swing a little bit. They might have friends
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with benefits, hookups, things like that. There's
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emotions involved. Then there's just on the other
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spectrum, there's almost the opposite of that,
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which is swinging. Now, swinging is kind of those
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catch -all phrases for some people. But for us,
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it's just simply a couple who wants to even swap
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or maybe they'll invite a single, most of the
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time, a single woman and sometimes a single man.
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But most of the time, their focus is on making
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sure it's even, right? Then you have things like
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stag and vixen, which is what me and Siren are.
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And then you have cuckoldry. Then you have open
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relationship, which is also a huge catch all.
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That's kind of like we're not sure what we are,
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but we're just kind of open to what happens.
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And there's some basic framework. So you want
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to find out at least what the options are. You
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might not even know what you are or how you feel
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or what dynamic works best for you. You might
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have to go through years and years of trying
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some things out, you know, months and months
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of trying things out, you know, but I do recommend
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that you look into those things and understand
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those dynamics. The second biggest thing is what
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I'm talking about, reducing conflict through
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knowledge. Reducing conflict through knowledge.
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you're going to have conflict with your significant
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other. You're going to have conflict with other
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people. I don't mean to scare you away. But again,
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I've had very little drama. There's never been
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a shouting match or violence or huge issues or
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falling outs of anything. But I have seen it.
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And that's another reason why I have seen people.
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I've read stories of people, you know, hurting
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themselves. There's a couple that were a guy.
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pushed for a threesome, brought his friend in,
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didn't, you know, I guess he didn't play sports,
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didn't know his friend had a huge -ass dick,
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dicked his wife down, he got mad, stabbed his
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friend in the neck, and jumped out of the window
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to try to commit suicide. He died, and his friend
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who got stabbed survived. You know, I've heard
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horror stories like that. You know, and countless
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people who've lost their marriages and their
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relationships. Some people have lost their jobs,
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everything. So you want to be able to avoid losing
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your job. You want to be able to avoid bringing
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it to your wife and saying all the wrong things.
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You want to be able to avoid going to different
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events where the vibe is not good. Like, we just
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went to one of our local clubs, and we love this
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club. I mean, we know the owners. We love the
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people there, but they had one. event one theme
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that i knew in my heart i wasn't gonna vibe with
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but i said you know what you know let's try it
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anyway and it was a mistake you know so less
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you reduce conflict through knowledge right avoid
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misinformation from toxic or one -sided resources
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right right now the not the monogamous tiktok
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world is on fire after this pd stuff one of the
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things that's infuriating me is how a lot of
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monogamous people are correlating the ditty shit
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with ethical non -monogamous people, right? So
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there's a lot of toxic misinformation out there
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about what swinging is about, about statistics,
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about our STIs, statistics about our marriage,
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how long we last. All of that stuff is in the
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green. All of that stuff is positive. especially
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when you move away from polyamory. And I just
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think it's because polyamory in society is new.
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But, you know, when you can avoid that toxic
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misinformation, you avoid a lot of fears because
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a lot of people walk into the lifestyle just
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afraid because of all their friends and family
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and, you know, social media misrepresenting it.
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So, you know. Any questions from the two of you
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guys before I move on? Because I want to start
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talking about, you know, your research personality.
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But anything I want to contribute on that level?
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No, I'm just enjoying you speaking right now.
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I mean, you're on the road. Keep going. I'm good.
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Yeah. Okay. Well, so the next one is know your
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research personality. So there's four research
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personalities out there. There's the analyst.
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This is the person that loves data, studies,
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and structure, right? So good for reading books
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and academic work. That's me, right? I'm the
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guy who's plugged in. I got where it was, but
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you can get an RSS feed, which is pretty much
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where you get automatic information on a periodic
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basis, either a monthly email or daily email.
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And I sign up for all the college papers that
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have been published. or made public regarding
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ethical non -monogamy. That's me. I'm the analyst.
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I will read, you know, right now I used to read
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them. Now I just plug them in the chat and have
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them give me the synopsis. But I read those things.
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So I know the STI statistics. I know how it benefits
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you, what the pros and cons are. If you're an
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analyst, if you're an engineer, if you're a software
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engineer, if you're a nerd of any kind, then
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that's the one for you, right? You're going to
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want to get those research feeds. You're going
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to want to study the books. You're going to want
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to study the papers. You're going to want to
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look into statistically how things pan out. I
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also want to, what I want to do is also tell
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people, look, for those people who are analysts,
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be careful of. analysis paralysis, right? Don't
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go too deep in it because that rabbit hole almost
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never ends you up in the right place, right?
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I really recommend if you're an analyst research
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personality type to write down what you want
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to get. Acknowledge your emotional and intellectual
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fears and have a cutoff point. Give yourself
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a break. And make sure that you're not, check
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your significant other. If they're not an analysis
24:50
person, then learn how to communicate with them
24:55
in a way that they understand. So then the second
24:59
part is the empath, right? This person learns
25:02
through stories, interviews, and community forums.
25:06
You know, like I said on the last podcast, there
25:08
are so many ways to learn, right? The second
25:14
best way is talking to people, right? Listening
25:18
to podcasts and listening to stories of people's
25:21
other experiences. But if you can get to somebody
25:24
that is similar to you, similar in your likes,
25:27
similar in your cultural values, similar in your
25:30
area, you know, you're similar in your direction
25:34
and ask those people those questions, you know,
25:38
you're in good. You know, it's always said if
25:41
you want something in life, find somebody who
25:44
has it and talk to them right so for the empath
25:50
find somebody if you if possible virtually either
25:53
through podcast or through youtube channels or
25:57
tiktok or anything like that find the people
26:00
that living the lifestyle the way you want that
26:02
you vibe with and sit down with them and Have
26:07
them share stories of horror stories and success
26:10
stories and some of the rules and philosophies
26:12
they have. That really helps people like that.
26:17
After that, there's the explorer. This person
26:20
needs firsthand experience, goes to events. On
26:23
the job training. On the job training. I think
26:27
this is Siren. Do you think that's you? Do you
26:30
identify with that? Well, finish reading it.
26:32
Okay. This person just has to see it to believe
26:36
it. This person has to be in that situation,
26:40
you know, smell, smell the room, right? Smell
26:43
the ambience, see people's. That would be me.
26:47
Yeah. Talk to me about it. Talk to me about it.
26:50
Why, why would you say that's you? And what are
26:53
you looking for as an explorer? I, I can, I,
26:56
I can tell you here again from personal experience.
26:59
Okay. When I got. when i got into this uh and
27:02
i've told you and the fans before that i just
27:06
you know i had a female handler so i did not
27:09
have we didn't have all of the you know the words
27:12
and and and you know and we didn't know what
27:15
a cuckold was and we didn't necessarily know
27:17
what a hot wife and this and that so we had to
27:21
to do the ojt i you know i had to do the only
27:25
job training i had to uh um talk You know, I
27:30
had to meet couples and I had to, you know, get
27:32
inside their head. I had to feel what they're
27:35
feeling. You know what I'm saying? And then here
27:38
again, through trial and error, as I, as I maneuvered,
27:42
say from each couple to couple, you know, from
27:45
each encounter, each encounter, I was able to
27:48
put together my own style from that. Okay. And
27:53
then here again. with with the experience factor
27:56
you know from year to year to year like i said
28:00
before i put together that lesson plan all right
28:03
i had a lesson plan for when i talked to stag
28:07
vixen types of couples i had a lesson plan for
28:10
when i talked to i knew that it was a true coupled
28:12
couple uh i had one for when i when i knew that
28:16
it was a a female -led relationship you know,
28:19
et cetera, et cetera. So that's what I mean by
28:21
sometimes ones can read and hear again. I can
28:25
sit here on the computer and I can read, read,
28:27
read, and read. But until I actually get out
28:29
there and experience it and feel it, and like
28:31
you said, smell it myself, then I can put together
28:36
how I'm going to be, you know, in that particular
28:39
lifestyle. And I think for, I know we're talking
28:44
about the couples here, but for the bulls who,
28:48
go through this also should go through this.
28:51
I think you can, yes, you need to sit down and
28:54
read. You need to sit down and read, but though
28:57
you need to be able to go into the situation.
29:00
And like I said, if you go to a splash one time,
29:03
go to a splash and go there with the mindset
29:06
of saying, I'm not trying to play with anybody.
29:09
I just want to sit here and talk. Okay. I want
29:12
to sit here and look, I want to observe, you
29:14
know what I mean? what style do I have? You know,
29:19
am I a real outgoing person and, you know, I
29:22
can approach everybody or am I like, like myself,
29:26
Sigma, and I sit back and I let you come to me,
29:29
you know what I mean? Because I'm reading, I'm
29:31
reading the room. So that's, that's what I'm
29:33
talking about right there. That's that, that
29:35
on the job training, that's very, very crucial
29:38
in my opinion, in this lifestyle, because it
29:42
is going to develop, you're going to develop
29:44
confidence. You're going to develop confidence.
29:46
You're going to develop that rapport. You're
29:48
going to develop an aura, a style, a charisma.
29:53
And all of that, once you get all that blended
29:57
into you, bam, you become a dangerous person
30:00
then. Word. I'm going to blow my husband's mind
30:06
right now with telling him what style I am. I'm
30:09
all three. And let me tell you how that works.
30:13
I think that I start off as an empath and I listen
30:17
to other people's experiences, kind of like a
30:19
referral. Right. You know, you have somebody
30:22
that's like, oh, Sally may cut my hair. They
30:24
were so great. You know, so I listen to that
30:27
personal experience from somebody I know and
30:29
trust. That's why when I got into the lifestyle,
30:34
I needed to talk to the woman. Right. He had
30:38
given me all of the book work part and I I did
30:41
that part, but it. didn't take me to where I
30:45
needed to go to get started. So talking to that
30:48
woman, that was the empathic part. Then came
30:52
the explorer part, going on the job training,
30:55
right? Going to that club in Seattle, experiencing
30:57
it for myself. And then once I'm into something
31:01
like that, then I become the analyst. It's like,
31:05
my husband don't give a shit about astrology.
31:09
But me and my hairdresser, we'll sit and talk
31:11
about it. We'll look up shit on the Internet,
31:13
all kinds of stuff, because I already had that
31:16
interest. So now with the lifestyle, it's like
31:19
now I want to read more books about it. Now I
31:22
want to listen to more podcasts and dive deeper.
31:25
So that's how the three work for me. But the
31:30
bulk of it, you know, that he does see especially
31:33
is that explorer part. So but I wanted once I
31:36
heard all three, I was like. It all ties together
31:39
for me. Well, actually, you're probably all four.
31:41
Oh, is there one more? There's one more. Oh.
31:44
Yeah. That's the connector. That person builds
31:48
a network, learns from trusted people in the
31:50
space. Yeah. So I am all four. So that's someone
31:55
who, you know. That's super cool. I love that,
31:59
Daddy. Oh, thank you. That's someone, I can think
32:04
of someone right now, I won't mention his name
32:06
because I don't want to speak for him, but that's
32:09
someone who I identify with, that person who
32:11
says, you know what, I don't want to just get
32:14
to know any willy -nilly person. I don't want
32:15
to just read from some person that I've never
32:18
met. I want to find the top of the top. I want
32:23
to get around the certain people that I like,
32:25
build that network, find somebody I know I can
32:28
trust, and then I'll ask questions. That person
32:31
might get in and jump in because they know they
32:34
can kind of navigate the basics, right? Other
32:38
people might chill until that time. You know,
32:40
I've known people who say, you know, I have a
32:42
friend who, they're a couple out here where we
32:46
live, and they were in the lifestyle for a year
32:48
before they did anything. And it wasn't until
32:53
they've built up a bunch of couples that they
32:55
trusted that they felt comfortable moving forward,
32:58
you know? So those are the four types, the analyst,
33:02
the empath, the explorer, and the connector.
33:05
And if you don't know which one you are, you
33:07
know, mix and match the styles. There's no right
33:10
method or wrong method to do it, right? Just
33:12
mix them up and try it and see where it takes
33:16
you. You know what I mean? I think that just
33:18
helped me in my whole life right now. Wow. How?
33:21
Wow. Just wow. Okay. This is what we would call
33:24
revelation. No, because I didn't really put all
33:30
that together about myself until I just heard
33:32
all of this. Hold on. Here's some revelation
33:33
noise, y 'all. Oh, it didn't work. What was it
33:39
going to be like? Oh, like a little sparkle.
33:44
Like that's the light bulb coming on. Yep. I
33:48
think I do this with lots of things. And that
33:51
actually makes me feel more confident now because
33:55
sometimes. I feel like we kind of talk about
33:59
that I don't even research. But knowing the different
34:01
kinds makes me know I do research, but I just
34:05
research in a certain pattern that works for
34:08
me. And that starts with being an empath and
34:12
going to the explorer, then the analyst, and
34:15
then the connector. I love it. Yeah. I'll have
34:22
to think of a way to reward you for this. Ooh,
34:25
I know exactly what. You don't have to think,
34:29
mommy. I got you. Okay, okay. Take a load off
34:32
me. All right. So where to start, right? Now
34:36
you've decided on your research personality or
34:39
you've picked one. Where to start? Well, if you're
34:44
an analyst, start with Reddit. I really think
34:47
you should start with Reddit. You know, go with
34:49
the sub, I think it's called Substack. of non
34:54
-monogamy, right? Put your filters in. And I
34:58
would definitely start with the ethical slut.
35:00
That is the lifestyle Bible. Now, it leans more
35:04
towards poly, but the principles in there are
35:07
so good. I even recommend it to a few of my kind
35:09
of like monogamish people or people that are
35:13
open -minded monogamous people because the skills
35:16
you're going to learn in there are so dope. You
35:20
know, if you're a connector, Then some of the
35:25
networks I highly recommend is Splash or, you
35:29
know, there is different communities out there.
35:33
There's actually even if people don't know, this
35:35
is actually a swingers like organization that
35:43
kind of operates like, you know, those organizations
35:47
that raise money and lobby. And what's that?
35:51
What's the name of that? I can't remember that.
35:53
Advocates? Advocacy? It's a different name. There's
35:56
swinger advocacy groups that you can join. If
36:01
you're an empath and you like to hear stories
36:04
or interviews or community forums, I would definitely
36:09
join a local club. They usually have groups you
36:14
can go to. If you're into the kink side of it,
36:20
I would definitely go to a munch. I would go
36:23
to every meet and greet possible. If you're an
36:27
explorer or an empath, I would go to meet and
36:29
greets. If you're a connector, I would go to
36:33
meet and greets just so you can find the networks
36:35
you should be a part of. Then conferences are
36:43
good. You know, Vegas always has one. The AVN
36:46
is a great place to go to. It's one of the great
36:49
conferences. Splash Mocha has several seminars.
36:52
A lot of them, I think Hot Wife Palooza has seminars.
36:56
So a lot of the events you'll go to, they'll
36:59
have seminars. FetLife is a great resource. I
37:04
cannot catch a date on there to save my life.
37:07
I haven't been able to meet anybody on there
37:09
or anything like that, but it's a great place
37:12
to find any local forums. Facebook groups that
37:17
are private that you might not know of, and they
37:20
have every single interest there is, you know,
37:23
from BBC parties to, you know, polycules to munches
37:29
to everything. Also, along with FetLife, you
37:34
also have Black to White. Black to White is good.
37:38
Yeah, btw .com, that's good. They actually have
37:43
the forums up there and a lot of people go up
37:45
there and, you know, I even have one up there
37:47
myself for the Bulls. And, you know, periodically
37:51
I go up there and I'll jot down a question and
37:54
you'll be surprised what guys come back with.
37:56
You know, we'll talk, we'll text for maybe an
37:59
hour about different topics. So that's a good
38:02
one also. Yeah, we got a guy off there for my
38:05
birthday this year. Yep, yep, yep. And then,
38:09
you know what, before I move on, I want to say
38:12
this, have fun with it. You know, if you're partnered
38:14
up and you guys are wanting to do research and
38:17
one of you are researchers and one of you is
38:19
not, you know, one of you is an analyst and the
38:22
other one is not, you know, have a date night
38:26
and say, we're just going to sit in the bed,
38:28
put some sexy music on, bring up our laptops
38:31
and ask some questions and research, ask chat
38:35
GBT, ask a friend, go online, you know, make
38:39
a night of it, make a date of it. You know, have
38:42
a shared, like, notes. Like, if you're an Apple
38:47
user, you know, you can share your notes, Android,
38:50
you know, whatever you guys do, whatever you
38:51
robot people do. Share notes with each other,
38:55
you know. Share the stuff that you've learned
38:59
throughout the week, right? So if you learn something,
39:03
you know, hey, I talked to one of my bullfriends,
39:05
and he was telling me, you know, this approach.
39:07
You know, today, one of my mentors, Mr. Mocha,
39:10
shout out to Mr. Mocha from the Old Faces podcast,
39:12
Mr. and Mrs. Mocha. He was talking to me today
39:15
about how I can increase my cuckold presence
39:20
and how I can, you know, get in front of more
39:22
cuckold couples and some of the mistakes that
39:25
I might be making today. You know, it's always
39:29
good to talk to people on that level. So now
39:32
we're going to talk about. How to fact -check
39:36
in a sea of opinions, right? So everybody and
39:40
their mama's got opinions. You know, we have
39:43
opinions, right? Everybody and their mama thinks
39:46
they know what they're doing. But if you're an
39:48
analyst, you know there's a certain way to fact
39:51
-check. So if you're on, for example, Perplexity,
39:55
which is a great app I recommend to all my analyst
39:59
guys if they don't know. It's an AI -based...
40:03
research app that only uses, you know, papers
40:09
and cites all their work and has specific places
40:15
where they draw from. So, for example, ChatGPT
40:18
draws from the web. It'll draw from social media
40:21
lies. It'll draw from blogs of people that have,
40:25
you know, their own agenda. But Perplexity uses
40:28
that. So if you're doing that, then. I would
40:31
really look. There's starting to be plenty of
40:34
papers that are, you know, double blind studies,
40:39
peer reviewed studies, replicated studies, things
40:43
like that. Make sure you vet your authors and
40:48
your speakers and the people that you're talking
40:50
to. So if they consider themselves an expert,
40:53
look into them just a little bit. You know, one
40:57
of the things that amazes me and I'm not going
40:58
to put any names out there is. And I only know
41:03
personally of one podcaster. I'm surprised at
41:07
how many podcasters spend way more time podcasting
41:10
than they do playing. And this isn't a judgment.
41:12
If that's you, no judgment. But for me, I wish
41:17
I would have known that when I first got started.
41:19
Because, you know, like I say, we go hard in
41:24
our opinion, what we think is hard. And I want
41:27
to hear from people that either have or are.
41:30
going hard right are deep into this you might
41:34
want like we follow um podcasters that we know
41:38
we're good friends with them and they oh you
41:41
know when they're teaching people and when they're
41:44
advising they'll tell you we rarely play we play
41:47
you know once or twice a month or something like
41:49
that you know and that's not rare daddy well
41:53
for us it is right my point is You might want
41:59
that. You might want a couple or your mentor,
42:04
you know, that does that. Let me ask this nephew,
42:09
that podcast couple that you're talking about,
42:12
how long have they been in this world, active
42:16
in this world? Their ages? Or active in the lifestyle?
42:20
No, I'm just saying, no, active in the lifestyle.
42:21
You know I'm calling it lifestyle. How long have
42:24
they been active in this world? I probably would
42:26
say about five years. Five years? Yeah, because
42:31
I know it's longer than us. Okay. But also, you
42:35
know, they just don't know a lot of basics. Yeah,
42:38
that's what I'm talking about. They're still
42:40
learning. Okay? They're still learning. So they're
42:44
taking it slow. Well, and one thing I really
42:47
admire about them is they have a lot of trauma
42:49
that they have put out there in the world. And
42:52
they're sharing their stories of their trauma
42:54
and overcoming certain things. As I said again,
42:58
they're taking it slow because they've had some
43:02
fuck -ups probably. You know what I mean? And
43:05
here again, they're learning. They're learning.
43:07
And there's nothing wrong with that. There's
43:09
nothing wrong with that whatsoever. If that's
43:12
what works for them, then I'll freaking stand
43:16
it. I'll stand it. Like I said before, you guys
43:19
aren't the norm. You know what I mean? You all
43:22
aren't the norm. So for them, they want to get
43:24
everything right. And, and, you know, don't want
43:28
to get anything wrong. So that is why they're
43:30
concentrating. You know, when they're podcasting,
43:32
they're podcasting. When they're learning, they're
43:34
learning. You know what I mean? As I said before,
43:37
crawl for you, walk, walk for you, run, run for
43:39
you, leap. You know what I mean? Leap before
43:42
you fucking fly. All right. So take, so take
43:45
that shit, take that shit easy. And, and, and,
43:49
and grow, grow as a couple. grow as a couple
43:52
you know what i mean like you said before hell
43:55
make this like a damn um you can make learning
43:58
about uh or researching you can make this like
44:01
just like it's a freaking term paper in college
44:04
you know what i'm saying each of you each of
44:06
you get different topics different subjects uh
44:09
you know research research research then like
44:12
you said have a a rainy sunday get in the damn
44:15
bed don't never get out of that motherfucker
44:17
and have a a Just a damn old day of just going
44:21
over notes, going over notes, going over notes,
44:23
you know, get as comfortable a with each other
44:26
as possible, you know, uh, before you start venturing
44:30
out. Cause I mean, that's the key right there.
44:32
That is the key. Um, a lot of times you think
44:36
you're good and then you get out there and, you
44:39
know, like I said, something happens and then
44:41
that's it. Here we go now. Now we got to sit
44:43
back. Okay. Do things happen? Yes, things happen.
44:48
But if you've dotted every I and crossed every
44:51
T before you go out there, then it'll be a simple
44:54
solution to that problem instead of that problem
44:57
maybe becoming, hey, we're fucked up now. So
45:01
what they're doing or what other couples are
45:03
doing, that's okay. That's all right. Like I
45:08
said, everybody's got their own style. Everybody's
45:11
got their own style. All right. I'm done. I love
45:14
it. I love it. Yeah. And so moving on to the
45:20
next one, recognize the difference between personal
45:25
anecdotes and generalized advice. What that means
45:28
is in the research world, a personal anecdote
45:34
is just you telling a story from your perspective.
45:40
explaining it in a way that you think is good
45:43
general information, but maybe it's not. Right.
45:47
So at the same time, my mentor gave me some advice,
45:51
you know, and I've said to him, you know, that's
45:54
a little too alpha for me. You know what I mean?
45:56
Like there's a little bit too anecdotal for me,
45:58
for you, because what you're talking about fits
46:01
your life because you are an alpha male. You
46:04
know, this guy thinks in, and he'll tell you,
46:07
I'm not saying anything secretly, you know, Like
46:09
he thinks through the lens of the art of war.
46:14
And I learned from it. We've sat down and like,
46:16
let's go through chapter to chapter and break
46:18
it down to me. You know, but that's anecdotal.
46:21
And I know that's anecdotal. And I know that's
46:24
great for some people who think in those terms.
46:26
But the minute I got out the ghetto, I stopped
46:28
thinking in terms of the art of war, you know?
46:31
So, you know, generalized information is about,
46:35
well, on average, right? If you have ever heard
46:39
of the 80 -20 principle or the 80 -20 law, it's
46:42
a principle that it's called, it's a distribution
46:45
principle. It's a principle on how things work
46:47
out. 80 % of the world is average. 80 % of people
46:53
do things in a normal way. Even if you're stepping
46:56
away and you're leaving the norms of monogamy
47:00
and you're getting into non -monogamy, there's
47:03
an average of how people get into it. There's
47:05
an average of how people act within that. That
47:08
is where you're going to get your research from.
47:10
Most people are studying averages. Now, I study
47:13
what's called positive psychology, which is what
47:17
are the 20 % of successful people doing? What
47:21
are the 20 % of the people that are set aside?
47:23
But realize that when you're listening to people's
47:27
personal stories, that's a personal anecdote.
47:29
What you want to learn is what's the average?
47:32
What is most people doing? Because that personal
47:34
anecdote story might be great advice for them,
47:37
but it might have you fucked up. And so you always
47:42
want to cross -check that. And then you want
47:46
to ask yourself, when you're researching, what
47:51
part of the ethical non -monogamy are you a part
47:54
of? We talked about this earlier. And why? Why
47:56
do I want to go towards that? Try not to add
47:59
judgment in any of this. we all struggle with
48:03
judging ourselves. We all struggle with judging
48:06
each thought that goes through our head, what
48:09
somebody else says, especially in the more important
48:11
they are, you know, your wife, your spouse, your
48:13
significant other, your business partner, right?
48:17
Try not to judge while you're researching. You
48:20
know, if you want to research and then after
48:22
you come to a few conclusions with your significant
48:24
other, yourself, then you can say, hey, is this
48:27
right or wrong, good or bad, whatever your paradigms
48:30
are. You know, is this something that's going
48:32
to be positive? Do we like this? Right. You know,
48:35
like don't pigeonhole yourself in your head before
48:40
you even got started out there in the real world.
48:42
You know what I mean? So with that being said,
48:48
let's talk about the difference between partner
48:52
research and solo research. So if you're doing
48:56
it with a partner, I highly recommend, like I
48:58
said, a shared thing. a note, a notebook, anything
49:03
where you guys are both bringing your heads together.
49:06
Because listen, you know, here's one thing we
49:10
don't believe in. I don't believe, you know,
49:12
it's going to be controversial. And if you want
49:13
to have, you know, if you want to say something
49:15
to me, hit me, hit us up on email, you know,
49:18
the bull brotherhood at gmail .com. We now have
49:21
an Instagram page, bull brotherhood, Instagram,
49:23
you know, DM us the bull brotherhood. but I don't
49:29
believe that we're all one sex. I think women
49:32
and men are different. I think that brings certain
49:36
personality differences, certain needs, certain
49:39
viewpoints, certain feelings, and if your wife
49:44
is looking for it, trust me, I've never met a
49:47
couple, and I'm not saying they're not out there,
49:49
but I've never personally met a couple where
49:51
the wife and the husband are looking for the
49:53
same thing, valuing the same thing, and judge
49:56
the same thing. So when you're doing your research
49:58
with your significant other, keep that in mind.
50:00
You know, if your wife is a feminine woman and
50:05
she leans into her femininity, she's going to
50:07
look at soft systems. She's going to look at
50:09
tone. She's going to look at the environment.
50:11
She's going to look at how things make her feel
50:13
comfortable, right? You want to research that
50:16
and be open to listening to your wife. Whatever
50:18
the dynamic is, let's talk in terms of femininity
50:21
and masculinity because I think we can all agree
50:23
on those. Whatever you are, if you're a masculine,
50:27
individual, then you're going to be looking at
50:29
more facts and figures. You might be a more cerebral
50:31
person. You might be a more analytical person,
50:34
logical, right? You're going to look at things
50:37
like keeping yourself safe. You're going to look
50:39
at, as a man, you're always going to get less
50:42
play than the woman. Even if you're swingers
50:43
and has to be equal, you're always going to get
50:46
more play than your wife. I mean, your wife's
50:49
always going to get more play than you. You know,
50:51
the feminine always going to get more play than
50:53
the masculine, right? When you do that together,
50:57
you know, make sure you check with each other.
51:00
If you have some findings and you're like, hey,
51:02
you know, I figured out that I'm going to be
51:05
a super alpha dominant male. And I'm going to
51:08
steamroller everybody. You better check that
51:10
with your wife, homie. You better check that
51:13
with your significant other. What do you guys
51:16
think? Any questions so far? No, you seem to
51:21
be on a good roll there. You're definitely right
51:24
with checking with the wife. But here again,
51:28
all that should be discussed when we first get
51:32
started out. You know what I'm saying? Even before
51:35
we start doing the heavy research. That's when
51:38
the two of you sit down and have that heart -to
51:42
-heart as far as how you're going to do things.
51:45
But, I mean, keep going. Well, and also I'll
51:48
just chime in quickly. I think for us, we started
51:53
out with like how things were going to go, right?
51:57
And then we would just adjust along the way.
51:59
Always before every splash. Yeah, before every
52:03
splash mocha, we go over like what our current
52:05
guidelines are. Like we've taken some out. We've
52:09
put some new ones in. The ultimate goal just
52:13
be moving towards, you know, because we love
52:16
each other. And we know each other. We can give
52:19
each other the freedom to not have as many guidelines
52:23
because we know that we're doing each situation
52:26
with nothing but love and the best interest of
52:30
our partner in our mind, whether we're solo or
52:32
together. So I think that's just important to
52:36
just, you know, adjust as you go along too. Because
52:40
every time, every time you play, every time you
52:44
play, you are evolving. I say again, every time
52:49
you have an encounter, you are evolving. You're
52:53
learning something about yourself every fucking
52:56
play date that you have. Okay? And if so, if
53:00
you are very, very active, like you guys are,
53:04
you guys are learning something about yourself
53:06
each and every time that you guys play separately.
53:10
And then you come back. And when you both reclaim
53:14
each other, it makes your bond even stronger.
53:18
So that way you can have, you can look at your
53:21
checklist and you can say, okay, I don't need,
53:23
we don't need this shit no more. We don't need
53:25
this anymore. We're good on this. You know what
53:27
I'm saying? So that's what I'm talking about.
53:29
Every time you play, you evolve. You learn something
53:34
about yourself. All right. And here again, that's
53:37
for not only the couples, but also for the bulls
53:40
out there. You know, there's a reason that I
53:43
am the way I am now because of the years of play
53:47
play like I did before all the fucking time.
53:51
And now as I've gotten older, I've turned into
53:54
the mentor and the teacher. And that's why I
53:57
can go to Splash now and have a couple there
53:59
and she can go do her thing. And I'm just proud
54:03
of daddy watching her. You know, if I play, I
54:06
play. If I don't, I don't. So that's that's what
54:09
I mean. every time you play you are involved
54:11
yeah and i think that's a big part too that really
54:15
helped me like jump in leaps and bounds and the
54:18
explore part of my research personality was being
54:22
able to have those solo experiences because that
54:25
allowed me once i you know saw for myself and
54:29
experienced for myself that you know just because
54:31
i made out with someone doesn't mean i was going
54:33
to fall madly in love with them and they were
54:35
going to suck my soul out of my body and so you
54:38
know more and more guidelines have disappeared
54:41
you know from our list as you know especially
54:44
i have been able to experience more things one
54:47
-on -one so that's just something that's helped
54:49
me personally i love it i love you all right
54:53
well to kind of wrap up here as we're coming
54:55
up on time I just want to finish up with a few
54:59
closing statements. And then I want to share,
55:02
you know, some of the books I've read and maybe
55:07
talk to, you know, Brian and Siren on, you know,
55:13
what their best ways they learned. So in wrapping
55:17
up, avoid, make sure you avoid, you know, the
55:20
pressure to feel like you need to conform to
55:22
a certain path quickly. Take as much time as
55:25
you can. I, every person I get into, I mean that
55:29
I talk to, or every woman I get into, I tell
55:35
them, take your time. You might be like me and
55:38
you might want to rush, but rush, taking my time
55:42
is different than certain people. I was never
55:45
going to take a year to figure it out. But, you
55:48
know, taking my time meant, you know, me approaching
55:51
Siren when I met her four months later as opposed
55:54
to four days later. You know, like it took her
55:56
four months to get involved. We talked about
55:58
it about two weeks later and I was really patient
56:01
and I was willing to wait for a lot longer. But
56:04
because of who we are, you know, it happened
56:06
fast. Embrace curiosity over certainty. It's
56:12
okay to be uncertain the first couple of years.
56:14
It's okay to be uncertain if you are in this
56:17
five, six years now. But if you lean towards
56:20
curiosity, wondering how things work. wondering
56:25
about, you know, how other people see things.
56:29
That's really going to help you, you know. And
56:32
then, you know, obviously us. We're a great resource.
56:37
I know my man Michael C. from the Keys and Anklets
56:41
podcast. He is, you know, is a coach. He will,
56:45
you know, for a small fee, coach you up on every
56:50
aspect of it. You know, this guy's been for a
56:52
while. That's things that me and Mr. Morgan are
56:57
going to start doing in the future. You could
56:59
DM us. Like I said, email us, DM us if you have
57:03
any questions. We're happy to answer. And then
57:09
before I get started, do you guys want to add
57:12
anything before I go over a list of books and
57:14
podcasts and things that I recommend? Did you
57:17
want us to say books that we've enjoyed? Yeah,
57:19
yeah. Tell me the books that you've really enjoyed
57:23
and has really had an impact on you. Well, I've
57:27
read The Ethical Slut, of course, a couple of
57:29
times. And then I'm reading Polysecure as well.
57:37
I think the next one I'm going to read is that
57:39
attached book that you're talking about. So just
57:41
learning more and just trying to open my mind
57:44
and understanding to more dynamics than what
57:47
I'm in right now. And then, of course, experiences
57:51
like this next week, we're going to Utopia, which
57:55
is a cuckold event weekend. And so to learn more
58:01
about that in person and then. Man, podcasts.
58:06
I love O -Faces, of course. Keys and Inklets.
58:10
And then there was one other one. I can't remember.
58:16
But then I was just listening to some of my own
58:20
podcasts this week, too, and being like, this
58:22
is some good shit. I can't wait until it comes
58:23
out. So plugging myself here, the Siren of Freedom
58:26
podcast, and come check it out. And that's it.
58:32
That's all I have to say today. Oh, thank you,
58:35
Sexy Siren. I appreciate that. Unk, what you
58:40
got, man? If it's books or experiences or you're
58:43
a mentor, who do you learn the most? Nephew,
58:47
you know what I'm going to say. I am the sitting
58:51
male for a reason. Everything that I have learned
58:54
in all of my years of this has come from OJT,
58:58
on -the -job training. All right? Yes, I did
59:03
have a handler, but once I got out there and
59:05
got my feet wet and I started experimenting with
59:11
the couples as far as how to get inside their
59:15
head, how to talk to them, how to be around them,
59:18
developing that damn chemistry. That's how I
59:21
learned. That is how I learned. I just made contact.
59:25
I just made contact here with, you know, old
59:27
faces and keys and anklets in the last couple
59:29
of years. And it's been great. And then, you
59:32
know, everybody's family now, but I am truly
59:35
the one that has learned this, learned everything
59:37
from just experimentation, you know, experimentation.
59:43
And look, people, I, the two, my two biggest
59:48
mentors, Brian Morgan. Mr. Mocha, learn from
59:55
a handler. Right? Now, I learned a lot from Michael
59:59
C. And I'll say this once again. Everything I
1:00:02
do right is because of the research and those
1:00:04
boys. Everything I do wrong is on me. I don't
1:00:09
ever, if I mess up and I got a listener like,
1:00:12
well, I'll play with that motherfucker. And he,
1:00:14
and I didn't like, that's on me. But I want to
1:00:20
make that clear. That's on me. And you report
1:00:23
that back to me, and I'll give him the feedback
1:00:26
if you don't feel comfortable telling him because
1:00:28
we want to know, and I want to make sure I'm
1:00:30
sending quality out into the world. All right?
1:00:33
I brag on my husband. Yep. So you ladies let
1:00:36
me know. Exactly. So I want to just end it up
1:00:44
with my long list so y 'all can just sit back
1:00:48
and relax. I'm going to go line by line. So first
1:00:52
I'm going to say, as an analyst, I highly recommend
1:00:57
the RSS feed. I highly recommend Reddit. And
1:01:00
I highly recommend FetLife. Also, I think it's
1:01:04
SLS that has a really great blog section. Yeah.
1:01:11
I think it's Swinger. SLS .com or something.
1:01:16
I don't remember, but SLS has. SDC. SDC also
1:01:20
has a great. SLS, SDC, as well as, and I don't
1:01:24
mean Coach Alba, as well as AFF, Adult Friend
1:01:27
Finder. They have a pretty good one, too. They
1:01:29
had a good blog? Yeah. So. Yeah. I would start
1:01:32
there. I would 100 % read The Ethical Slut. That's
1:01:35
the Bible. My favorite book also is really good
1:01:38
is Insatiable Wives. Dr. Lay. who we definitely
1:01:43
want on this podcast, is a great resource. Those
1:01:48
are the books that really helped me. Now, Outside
1:01:50
of the Lifestyle, Attached is a great book. No
1:01:54
matter who you are, no matter what you're doing,
1:01:56
that is a scientifically proven, has been replicated,
1:02:01
double -blind, duplicated, peer -reviewed, published
1:02:05
research on relationships. Dating coaches are
1:02:10
using it. you know, it took our relationship
1:02:15
to the next level is attached. For men, for bulls,
1:02:19
I'm going to recommend a couple of books. Now,
1:02:23
you have to read this in tandem because some
1:02:26
of them will get you off course. I recommend
1:02:29
a small book that a guy by the name of John Gray,
1:02:32
the big popular John Gray, if you're, you know,
1:02:36
over the age of 40. He wrote a book called Men
1:02:39
Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus. I don't
1:02:41
recommend that one, but he wrote a small book
1:02:43
called Mars and Venus in Touch. It's paperback
1:02:46
only. It's a really good book on how to listen
1:02:50
to women, how to understand them. Another great
1:02:54
book that's not part of the lifestyle per se,
1:02:59
but I know he's lifestyle friendly, is a good
1:03:04
book called The Way of the Superior Man. By David
1:03:09
Data. Oh, that book. I forgot. I read that too.
1:03:12
That is a really good book. So even for a woman
1:03:15
to read to help if your man wants that support.
1:03:19
These are the things that you're going to learn
1:03:21
that stabilize a man, makes a man stoic, makes
1:03:24
a man understand how to interact with women.
1:03:28
I also recommend, and I just recently did this
1:03:31
and it took my game up, like me speaking to women.
1:03:35
A whole nother lot is listen to smut. Listen
1:03:38
to a good smut book. If you can, the women are,
1:03:42
when you really, when you listen to these books,
1:03:45
you understand how women's actual sexual fantasies
1:03:48
are my guy. Oh my goodness. And it teaches you
1:03:51
how to talk to women. When I did it, I first
1:03:55
did it. Um, then siren, let me know if we need
1:03:58
to edit this out, but. Can I share with you your
1:04:01
response after I first learned? How about can
1:04:04
I share it? Yes, go ahead. So sometimes I just
1:04:09
casually scroll through, you know, our phones
1:04:13
are open to each other. We can look and read
1:04:15
whatever we want. So most of the time I'm just
1:04:17
looking for titty pics. But after he read that
1:04:21
book. And I saw the way that he was talking to
1:04:25
other women, like it affected me emotionally
1:04:28
in a deep way. And I did not like it. He was
1:04:32
too good. So I requested that he stopped for
1:04:37
a little while because I really just needed to
1:04:39
get used to this whole new side of my husband
1:04:43
that, you know, I hadn't even seen yet. So for
1:04:48
a while there, I was like, I need to ease into
1:04:51
that. Because it worked too well for me at the
1:04:56
time. But I moved past that. I think you started
1:04:59
up again, right? Yeah. A little bit. Like you
1:05:03
said, I want to exercise it on you a little bit
1:05:05
more. But yeah, I did. Just a little bit. Yeah,
1:05:07
yeah. And he didn't do anything bad or wrong
1:05:10
at all. You know, nothing against any guidelines
1:05:12
that we had. But, you know, ladies, it's okay
1:05:16
to let your husband know, like, whew. that was
1:05:20
just a that was a little too much for me right
1:05:21
now you know that's okay and I think that I was
1:05:24
afraid of that for a long time is is just telling
1:05:28
him like hey you didn't do anything bad or wrong
1:05:31
it's just too much for me right now to handle
1:05:34
and I believe any good partner will pull back
1:05:37
even from something that they really enjoy if
1:05:40
they can see that it's affecting their partner
1:05:43
in a way that is not helping them grow so i just
1:05:47
love and appreciate my husband for for giving
1:05:50
that to me because that was a gift to be able
1:05:52
to just have some time to get used to something
1:05:54
and then you know bring it back in 100 100 so
1:05:59
let's move on i don't want to keep y 'all too
1:06:01
long for the empath um you know forums are the
1:06:08
best you know there's facebook forums there's
1:06:11
reddit forums There's FetLife forums. There's
1:06:15
Telegram forums. Go to the forums. Really get
1:06:20
to people. Most people in the ethical non -monogamy
1:06:24
community are so open book. They're so willing
1:06:27
to talk to you. Talk to them. For my explorers,
1:06:32
I would say meet and greets, meet and greets,
1:06:39
meet and greets. Munches, munches, munches, if
1:06:42
you're on the king side. That's where you're
1:06:46
going to want to really explore, talk to, see,
1:06:53
feel, touch, you know, in a safe way. Podcasts
1:06:59
for everybody. I'm just going to name the ones
1:07:03
that I loved that really helped me. Swinger University
1:07:05
is one, really great one. Normalizing non -monogamy
1:07:11
is also dope. Obviously, I learned how to become
1:07:14
a bull from the Keys and Nicholas podcast, period,
1:07:16
point blank. I learned a lot through the Old
1:07:19
Faces podcast. And I listened to these guys before
1:07:21
I met them, well before I met them. I like Cuck
1:07:27
My Life. If you're into Cuckoldry, they're awesome.
1:07:30
We also know Venus. She's a great resource for
1:07:38
the cuckold lifestyle. There's a lot of hot wife
1:07:41
podcasts out there that you can listen to. My
1:07:48
favorite, I don't think they post anymore, but
1:07:51
they have a lot of stuff on there, is the Priory
1:07:55
Society. And I'll put all these in the show notes.
1:07:59
And I'll even put a lot, even more, an extensive
1:08:02
list on the show notes of places I recommend.
1:08:06
I love that podcast. And then the rest is up
1:08:11
to you. You know, there's books, there's seminars,
1:08:14
there's YouTube, there's TikToks, there's all
1:08:17
kind of social media groups that you can go to.
1:08:21
So that's it, y 'all. I hope I was able to share,
1:08:25
you know, some good resources. I am an open book.
1:08:32
You know, I am. Socrates LS on Twitter. We are
1:08:37
the Bull Brotherhood on Instagram. Siren, you
1:08:43
want to shout yours out? The Siren of Freedom
1:08:45
on Instagram and the sirenoffreedom .com. I'm
1:08:50
on X too, but let me see what it is. Brian, go
1:08:56
ahead and say what yours is and then I'll come
1:08:57
back to my X. Lord, I know my email is sigmamail27
1:09:01
at gmail .com. And I think on Twitter on sigmamail27,
1:09:06
I think that's what I am. Yep. And then you can
1:09:09
always email us at thebullbrotherhood at gmail
1:09:13
.com. In the subject matter, you know, if you
1:09:17
were regarding an episode, make sure you put
1:09:19
the episode. And then, you know, who you're talking
1:09:22
to, either Mr. Brian Morgan, Sigmamail, or Socrates,
1:09:26
or Siren. uh my x is vixen k ls and then it says
1:09:34
siren when you get on there so i i wasn't able
1:09:37
to change the handle to siren and i had already
1:09:39
posted so if i figure that out in the future
1:09:42
uh maybe one of my kids after they turn 18 can
1:09:45
help me well all right if you cannot say one
1:09:49
last thing yes sir yeah well you close it and
1:09:52
out close out that's you um Ladies and gentlemen,
1:09:56
Socrates and Siren have both done a great job
1:10:00
tonight talking about researching this world.
1:10:03
As I said before, I don't call it a lifestyle.
1:10:06
This is the world that I live and love, living
1:10:10
and love 24 -7 as well as they do also. But please,
1:10:15
as much as we sit here and talk about getting
1:10:18
into this world and staying in this world and
1:10:21
making it your world. Make sure that this is
1:10:25
for the both of you before you venture into anything.
1:10:30
I say again, make sure this is what you really
1:10:33
want to do before you venture into it. Because
1:10:36
if it is for you, then you're going to have one
1:10:41
hell of a ride. Your marriage is going to be
1:10:43
one of the happiest ones in the world. Believe
1:10:47
me. Same thing for the young men out there. My
1:10:51
bulls. you know make sure that this is this is
1:10:54
what you want okay because we would love to uh
1:10:58
invite you and and open the doors and you know
1:11:01
bring you into this world it's a beautiful thing
1:11:03
and i'm good i'm good go ahead sock tape close
1:11:08
it out close it out all right well here again
1:11:12
ladies and gentlemen i hope that you have enjoyed
1:11:14
another uh quality and informative uh session
1:11:20
of the bull brotherhood and as i always say in
1:11:23
closing to my bull brothers out there good night
1:11:27
to my hot wives sexy sluts and unicorns good
1:11:33
morning i'm the sigma male and for socrates and
1:11:37
siren we will see you again another time Good
1:11:40
night, y 'all. bold brotherhood luxury