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Browns Preview · Steelers Country Weekly

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  Speaker 1: Today on Steelers Country Weekly, we're gonna look ahead to
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers post by match up against Dylan Gabriel and
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  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Then we're gonna talk about some of
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  Speaker 1: our favorite vacations in honor of the Steelers returning home
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  Speaker 1: from the shores of Ireland. I'm Nick de Tulio and
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  Speaker 1: as always, en joined by the world famous accountant Eric vaminshowden,
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  Speaker 1: Eric has it going tonight?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Not too bad.
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  Speaker 3: As we were talking about it, it was a really.
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  Speaker 2: Good football weekend for us.
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  Speaker 3: Two of my Oma maters won and the Steelers did
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  Speaker 3: not lose.
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  Speaker 2: And on top of that, everyone in the division loss.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean that's about as good as you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, quite literally. The only way this weekend could have
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  Speaker 1: gone better for you and myself as far as sports goes,
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  Speaker 1: is had the Steelers had a game and won. But
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  Speaker 1: this is the next best thing. As you mentioned, the
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  Speaker 1: Steelers were on a bye. We talked about that defensively
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  Speaker 1: last week. It was known that they had a buy
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  Speaker 1: and we'll talk a little bit about the buy itself
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  Speaker 1: in general too. But on Friday, your high school alma
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  Speaker 1: mater Elder won a big game, winning the first conference championship,
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  Speaker 1: as you so humbly pointed out pre show, since you
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  Speaker 1: were there roaming the sidelines yourself, so you had to
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  Speaker 1: come back to the pit to just bring your energy
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  Speaker 1: to put them over the top against Molar. On Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: are Bearcats won against Iowa State. It was the first
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  Speaker 1: ranked win at Nippert since I think they said two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and eight against Rutgers, which was kind of odd
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  Speaker 1: to me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we were so good for a while.
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  Speaker 1: And that all the ranked wins they did have, which
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  Speaker 1: granted was not as many as other programs, but they
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  Speaker 1: must have all come on the road. But the odd
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  Speaker 1: thing about that is that was the game that kickstartarded
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  Speaker 1: the Bearcats renaissance in football. That was Mark d'antoni's last
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  Speaker 1: year before Brian Kelly came in and took over, and
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  Speaker 1: we know what happened since then, but it just kind
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  Speaker 1: of reiterated or reemphasized how far we've come since then.
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  Speaker 1: Very ugly end of the game too, lots of penalties,
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  Speaker 1: very sloppy, but I digress. Yeah, and then, as you
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  Speaker 1: pointed out, on Sunday, all three AFC North Division foes
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  Speaker 1: lost their games. The Browns lost to the Vikings in London,
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals lost to the Lions in Cincinnati, and in
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore the Ravens got stomped by the Texans. So some
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  Speaker 1: other interesting things have happened in the last well today actually,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that a little bit too. Joe
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  Speaker 1: Flacco will definitely not be making an appearance against the
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  Speaker 1: Steelers this week. The Browns had decided to start Dylan
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  Speaker 1: Gabriel last week in London against the Vikings. Today they
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  Speaker 1: traded Joe Flacco to the Cincinnati Bengals. So that tells
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  Speaker 1: me that if the quarterback draft class doesn't pan out
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  Speaker 1: this year and Aaron Rodgers does retire and the Steelers
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  Speaker 1: need to get another forty plus year old quarterback to
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  Speaker 1: to wait until the next guy for the franchise comes in,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is going to be that guy and complete
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  Speaker 1: the AFC North cycle. We go.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, my brother in law point out, it's Joe
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  Speaker 3: two point.
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  Speaker 1: Out there, you go, Joe two point oh.
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just interesting though, how things have played out
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  Speaker 1: with the Steelers sitting three and one. I will give
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens some grace because before this weekend, their losses
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  Speaker 1: were too, were close games to the Lions, the Bills,
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  Speaker 1: and the Chiefs. It wasn't as close with the Chiefs,
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  Speaker 1: but Lamar Jackson got hurt part way through the game.
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  Speaker 1: Their losses were to three of the generally accepted best
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  Speaker 1: teams in the league. But then they without Lamar Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: they just got stomped by the Texans. It was pretty bad.
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  Speaker 1: The Bengals we knew had a pretty weak defense, and
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  Speaker 1: then with Joe Burrow getting hurt, seems like the wheels
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  Speaker 1: have kind of fallen off there, and the Browns are
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  Speaker 1: kind of what we expected them to be. They've got
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  Speaker 1: some flashes of good defense, but just as an organization,
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  Speaker 1: they still got some things they're working out here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so the Steelers do have a tough stretch toward the
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  Speaker 1: end of the year, but that's why it's important to
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  Speaker 1: rack up these wins now while they can, and especially
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  Speaker 1: while the division teams presumably keep digging themselves into holes. So,
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  Speaker 1: before we dive into the game against the Browns, since
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  Speaker 1: we talked about Flacco and the trade to the Bengals,
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to get your quick thoughts on the trade overall,
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  Speaker 1: on how you think the division races play out.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 4: As I told you, the Bengals were swinging for the
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  Speaker 4: fences on this one, going out and getting a quarterback
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  Speaker 4: that is getting benched by a rookie quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: That and during those games.
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  Speaker 3: That he did play, the Browns had not scored over
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  Speaker 3: seventeen points. So, you know, I think that there are
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  Speaker 3: plenty of maybe available I thought available names.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you look over at the Giants.
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  Speaker 3: They seem like they've turned the page with their rookie quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 3: so they're too veterans.
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  Speaker 2: Would have been available.
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  Speaker 3: One in a familiar face, in the name of Russell Wilson,
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  Speaker 3: But I thought Jamis would have been a better fit there.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, I'm not gonna cry about them settling
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  Speaker 3: for Joe Flacco. But I'm not if I was a
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  Speaker 3: Bengals fan, I would not be super pleased.
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  Speaker 2: With it. Seems like a very trade.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not really sure what they accomplish. I think
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  Speaker 1: Flacco is probably more capable than Jake Browning, But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you bring up a good point. Russell Wilson is out
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  Speaker 1: there and is a little younger, might be a step up.
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  Speaker 1: James Winston is there as well. He's shown some flashes
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  Speaker 1: he could be good. So I'm wondering if just they
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  Speaker 1: knew they needed to get a quarterback and Flacco was
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  Speaker 1: the easiest one to get given the circumstances. But like you,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it accomplishes, though.
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  Speaker 2: Do you make a move if it doesn't move the needle?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind of it.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm just. That's what I mean, Like, what
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  Speaker 1: does it accomplish? Right? Why not just stick it out
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  Speaker 1: with Browning? And then maybe they don't want to quote
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  Speaker 1: unquote tank. But if I'm the Bengals, just like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it accomplishes. If you lose the
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  Speaker 1: rest of your games this year when you know your
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  Speaker 1: franchise quarterback is going to be out at least into December,
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  Speaker 1: when you're probably going to be eliminated anyway at that rate,
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  Speaker 1: what just take the high draft pick next year? Do
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  Speaker 1: it you can to protect the guy and maybe do
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  Speaker 1: something on defense. I don't know, but yeah, maybe you.
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  Speaker 3: Get a top ten tackle for god forbid, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Right, so you're not doing this every other year. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is just interesting. No, it's interesting because it does
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  Speaker 1: impact the division. It spreads some of the teams around
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  Speaker 1: on the Cleveland side. It's just interesting because they've put
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  Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel as the starter for now, which means that
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  Speaker 1: by default, Shadoor Sanders is number two. So I guess
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  Speaker 1: that means at any given time, we could see Shadoor
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  Speaker 1: Sanders too against the Steelers, right if the game goes
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  Speaker 1: a certain way.
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  Speaker 3: That I mean also, like, are you are you convinced
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  Speaker 3: that Dylan.
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  Speaker 2: Gabriel is the guy?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they obviously weren't because they took two rookod quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: So no, they just knew that they were going to
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  Speaker 1: trade Flacco and h our friend Kenny Away in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the season and that they were going to
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  Speaker 1: need them all.
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  Speaker 2: I even forgot Kenny got traded.
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  Speaker 1: We're even go I believe Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well that's going well for them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean he might have a shot at
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  Speaker 1: starting too, if Gino keeps playing the way he is.
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  Speaker 1: But ye oh my lord. So let's well, let's get
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  Speaker 1: in and talk about the game against the Browns again.
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  Speaker 1: Steelers are coming off of bye. They should be pretty
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  Speaker 1: well rested. Sounds like they might still be missing a
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  Speaker 1: few players, notably Jalen Ramsey, but they will be at
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  Speaker 1: home against the Browns at one o'clock this Sunday. The
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  Speaker 1: Browns are coming off of a loss in London to
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  Speaker 1: the Vikings. It was a four point game. There actually
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  Speaker 1: was an interesting highlight, if you want to call it
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  Speaker 1: that that I saw it, don't know if you did
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  Speaker 1: if you saw it either, where the Vikings had a
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  Speaker 1: field goal that was missed, but it was because it
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  Speaker 1: hit like a camera cable and no one, no one
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  Speaker 1: caught it. Yeah, so it should have been replayed. That's
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  Speaker 1: what happens in like Dallas when they hit the scoreboard
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  Speaker 1: because it's so low. But I guess no one, none
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  Speaker 1: of the officials and no one on the field said
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  Speaker 1: anything or caught it. So just kind of interesting. But
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  Speaker 1: that being said, with the way that the Steelers dominated
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  Speaker 1: the Browns, I'm sorry that the Steelers dominated the Vikings
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  Speaker 1: for a good chunk of the game before they tried
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  Speaker 1: to get in their own way. It was a little
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  Speaker 1: surprising waking up and seeing that box score on Sunday
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  Speaker 1: and seeing that the Browns kept it close, given the
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  Speaker 1: circumstances of starting Dylan Gabriel too.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, I will say like for the Browns,
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  Speaker 3: they're not completely hopeless.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they there. I forget how they played Week.
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  Speaker 1: One, the Bengals with Joe Burrow.
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  Speaker 3: They beat the Packers, who at that point was looking
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  Speaker 3: like one of the best teams in the league, and
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  Speaker 3: they've played the Vikings close. So you know, let's say
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  Speaker 3: that the Bengals were a playoff team with Joe Burrow.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that you're playing three teams.
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  Speaker 3: That are light like at that point likely playoff contenders.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, I mean they've definitely got their scars
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  Speaker 1: and they've been hit or missed though. When that, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: they're close and other times they lose badly.
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  Speaker 2: Like the Ravens game.
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  Speaker 1: The Ravens game, yeah, the Lions they lost by twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: So in this game, I think it's important though for
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers, and I feel like we talk about this
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  Speaker 1: every year, and I feel like, you know that meme
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  Speaker 1: from the office where he's like, no doubt about it,
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  Speaker 1: I am ready to be hurt again. Every year we
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  Speaker 1: kind of have a stump point and then we get
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  Speaker 1: our feet under us and I think we've got things
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  Speaker 1: figured out, and then we hit another stumbling point where like,
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  Speaker 1: how the heck did we just lose this e f
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  Speaker 1: and game?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It could be when we lost to like the two
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  Speaker 1: in ten Patriots or whatever. This is a game that
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers, especially coming off of the performance they gave
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  Speaker 1: in Dublin and coming off a bye, should handle pretty easily.
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  Speaker 1: Right Like the Browns we just did. We did give
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  Speaker 1: them their flowers a little bit, but they still have
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  Speaker 1: some things they need to work out. The Steelers seem
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  Speaker 1: to have a lot of the answers now for the moment.
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  Speaker 1: They seem to be the healthiest team in the division.
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  Speaker 1: They seem to be getting the most consistent quarterback play,
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  Speaker 1: the defense seems to be starting to gel a little
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  Speaker 1: bit better. As long as they keep building on what
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  Speaker 1: they've done, they should handle this.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: There's there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean there always is though, But again, we've seen
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  Speaker 1: this story before where another team will come out and
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  Speaker 1: look like world beaters against us that has no business
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  Speaker 1: being in the game. So uh, I'll defer to you
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  Speaker 1: first when you are looking at this game against Cleveland,
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  Speaker 1: what are some of your keys?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think that the defense has to
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  Speaker 3: keep up the momentum.
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  Speaker 2: You know, this offense will.
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  Speaker 3: Figure things out over the year, and I think that's
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  Speaker 3: gonna hea and flow. I don't think that we're ever
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  Speaker 3: really gonna see you know, we're not going to consistently
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  Speaker 3: be able to run the ball, We're not going to
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  Speaker 3: consistently be able to pass it.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm kind of given up on you know, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Very unpredictable what that game plan is going to look like.
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  Speaker 3: I think it depends on who you think is going
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  Speaker 3: to provide the best matchup for us. But I think defensively,
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  Speaker 3: if you have a rookie quarterback the Steelers, they typically
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  Speaker 3: have the Browns number, and you know we're coming off.
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  Speaker 2: You know, i'd say.
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  Speaker 3: Two good defensive performances with our last one being our
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  Speaker 3: best performance. So you know, what does that look like.
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  Speaker 3: I think that you know, at least three sacks, at
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  Speaker 3: least one turnover. I think two is very doable. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, we play the tie, have a possession card,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that we get this win. It doesn't
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  Speaker 3: have to be pretty. I'd like it to be ye.
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  Speaker 2: In Grant's game, it should be pretty. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think that it.
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  Speaker 3: Just all depends on like, if we shoot ourselves in
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  Speaker 3: the foot in this game, then we could very easily lose.
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  Speaker 2: Because we just talked about it the Browns.
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  Speaker 3: They play teams close, and let's be honest, the we
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  Speaker 3: are their super Bowl. If they don't win another game
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  Speaker 3: the whole season, if they beat the Steelers, then that's it.
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  Speaker 3: Like that's that's what they live for, you know. And
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  Speaker 3: I don't mean that derogatory, Like I have friends that
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  Speaker 3: are are Browns fans and they they basically tell me that,
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  Speaker 3: and they will tell you that, especially when that's like
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  Speaker 3: they're one win of the season, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it's just let's take care of business.
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  Speaker 3: We're the better team, and you know it's not men's words.
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  Speaker 3: We are a better football team than this team. So
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  Speaker 3: let's go do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I am, I'm with you. One thing I needed
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  Speaker 1: to see is the offensive line continuing to improve. I
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  Speaker 1: think they've gotten gradually better each week. And it's been
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  Speaker 1: good because I know Broderick Jones had a rough go
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  Speaker 1: of it for the first few years here for a
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  Speaker 1: miria out of different reasons. But now that he's on
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  Speaker 1: the left side of the ball, things seem to be
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  Speaker 1: working better. And we've got Troy Fautano, we've got Zach Frasier.
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  Speaker 1: We're doing well. And I say all this because I
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  Speaker 1: know that Miles Garrett is on the other side of
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  Speaker 1: the ball, and he's going to be a problem, and frankly,
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  Speaker 1: I want him to stay off of our brittle quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: so that that'll be the big thing for me. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to have to trust that the defense is going
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  Speaker 1: to continue to get better. I'm not sure why we
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  Speaker 1: had to start so poorly and slowly build ourselves up,
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  Speaker 1: but whatever we're doing, it seems to have gotten better.
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  Speaker 1: But you mentioned shooting ourselves in the foot. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think we can under or we can over emphasize enough
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  Speaker 1: just how poorly the end of the game was last week.
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  Speaker 1: And I know we talked about it a lot, but
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  Speaker 1: how bad decision making almost gave away what should have
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  Speaker 1: been an easy win. Like it, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: beat a dead horse, but it was almost like anything
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  Speaker 1: they could do if there was a right or a
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  Speaker 1: wrong answer, they chose the wrong answer every single time
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  Speaker 1: in that fourth quarter. Just don't do stupid things like that.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the game should be should be handled again,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, it may not be pretty, doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: to be the best win. But this is odd because
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  Speaker 1: they're coming off of a bye and then they've got
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  Speaker 1: a short week again and the Bengals, who are another
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  Speaker 1: struggling team, like we've already talked about with our friend
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  Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. So like you said, just show up, do
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  Speaker 1: your job, take care of business, get out of there,
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  Speaker 1: and they should knock on wood win. So yeah, if
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  Speaker 1: I had to give the Steelers a score here, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to give them a twenty seven to fourteen win
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  Speaker 1: against the Browns.
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  Speaker 2: Most convincing win of the season, and.
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  Speaker 1: It shouldn't have been but it will be.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, I just we should be winning this game. Might
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  Speaker 3: But now correct me? Is it a way so exact? Cleveland?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's home, it's only four and a half favorite.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's indicative of like how the odds makers
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  Speaker 3: think that this will be a close game. And I
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  Speaker 3: will go in their favor on that one. Let's go
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  Speaker 3: twenty to seventeen. Brown's still not going to get to
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  Speaker 3: their seventeen watermark.
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  Speaker 1: No, all right, there you go. We both are high
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  Speaker 1: on the Steelers winning this game. We both have a
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  Speaker 1: win and hopefully we are right. All right, Well, not
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  Speaker 1: as much to talk about this week because we had
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  Speaker 1: a bye week last week and last week for our
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  Speaker 1: fun topic, we talked about what Eric and I would
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  Speaker 1: do if we had our own special bye weeks. So
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: this week, with the Steelers coming back from a trip,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: we figured we could talk about our some of our
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  Speaker 1: favorite trips that we've taken. And then I've got a
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  Speaker 1: special bonus topic that I just thought of right now
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  Speaker 1: and not even haven't even told Eric yet. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: put him. I'm gonna, you know what, a treat for
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  Speaker 1: our listeners. I'm gonna put them on the spot and
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  Speaker 1: we'll get the answers after we go through this. But
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  Speaker 1: let me ask you this, Eric. I know you've taken
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  Speaker 1: several vacations. I know you've lived, moved away from your
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  Speaker 1: hometown for a while, done a lot of things. So
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  Speaker 1: let me ask you, what is your favorite trip when
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  Speaker 1: you look back in your memories.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, me and my wife we went to Jamaica.
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  Speaker 2: That was a great one.
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  Speaker 3: Never felt more relaxed in my whole entire life. But
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  Speaker 3: I think I think I have to go with.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I went to.
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  Speaker 3: I went out West with my wife and we we
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  Speaker 3: we went in all national parks and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I love the park system.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I love just being in nature.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: That's last week, you know, kind of talked about.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: What, you know, what my main motivation is, what what
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: gets me going?
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: And it's it's a it's going to the parks, going outside,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: you know, being the disc golf course. So you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: that's we went to. We flew into Phoenix and then
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: we went to like the Grand Canyon Page Arizona, moa
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Bryce Canyon.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I think I'm forgetting one.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: But then we ended up in Denver where my friend
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: lives in hung out there for a little bit, so,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: you know it it is a great experience. It's really
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: hard to get out and go camping now a couple
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: of little ones, but yeah, it's something that I want
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: to kind of share with them when we get a
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: little bit, you know, they get a little bit older
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: and we feel more comfortable being more adventurous.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Well, you and I had pretty similar bye week plans,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: but when it comes to vacation plans, we could not
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: be further apart.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I am I am not outside even an indoor ken.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, I'm not. I'm not going outside if I
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: don't have to. So some of my favorite or one
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: of my favorite trips though it was probably one of
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: the cruises I've taken with my wife. We took one
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: when we were still dating, and then our honeymoon was
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: a cruise. I think I'm going to go with our
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: honeymoon just because I enjoyed the the cruise that we took,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: the excursions it was not. It was not a kiss cruise.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're doing any more of those,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: but one of my regrets is that I never got
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: to sail on the Kiss Cruise. But uh, it was
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: just kind of interesting because we had a little bit
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: of a fiasco on the honeymoon where one of our
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: excursions was a beach day in Honduras, so it was
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: just hours of us just laying on the beach, swimming
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: in the ocean, you know, doing kind of resort stuff.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: That was the day I forgot to put sunscreen on
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: my legs. Oh no, it was I'm not exaggerating the
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: worst pain I've ever had. Like I thought my skin
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: on my legs was just going to like burst open.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: That's like just standing there killed me.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: And you're not you're not a pale guy, but your
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: fair skin.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, and if you don't go outside ever, like
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I try to pull away, you're not going to get
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: any sun exposure anyway, So that was I always tell
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: that as like kind of the funny story, like, and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: then I think it was a day or two, like
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I went onto like the the general store on the ship,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: and I just could not find the ALLO there, and
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I think I just missed it. So I wouldn't like.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: To be something that they had to stop.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, so I knew it was probably there.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I just didn't see it, and I got mad and
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: left and so I had to like sit there and
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: all that extra pain for a day or two without
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: any sort of like remedy for it. But no, that
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: was funny say.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: That because Presley and I we had we had a
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: nice trip.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: On time, but we hung outside for like twelve hours
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: straight in the sun something like that.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: It's something crazy yuck, And we didn't apply like any sunscreen,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: so we're we were lobsters. And yeah, the next day
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: when we woke up, it was like.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: We had to go to the grocery store. We had
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: to drive home, but we had to go to the
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: grocery store down there and just start lathering as much
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: ALO on us as possible. We got the lotion kind
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: and the green kind. But yeah, it was we did
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: salvage it. We got some really greasy burgers that dance
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: hamburgers in Austin. Delicious. It is a great You know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: we weren't hungover, but we were sun sungover.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Ha hau. Oh my gosh. All right, so the surprise
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: topic which might have been a more interesting one for
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: us to go from the get go, but last week
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: we talked about your dream bye week? What are you
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: going to do? And we don't have to get super
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: in depth here, but let me just ask you. I
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: know that we just made all the travels we've done.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Where's your your next dream vacation? You you get to choose.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about planning for other people.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Where's the place you want to go the most?
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, let's see, money's not an object.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Sure, this is fantasy land, so money doesn't matter here.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: You know, I did a really cool project in high school.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: They want you to think big, and at.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: That time you had ten thousand dollars, which was a
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: fortune back then for a high school for a trip
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: of a lifetime. And I was like, well, how am
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: I going to spend out? And you have to spend
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: like basically ten thousand.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Dollars to a penny and itemize everything like get research.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Where you're going to go out to eat, all right,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: stay all of that stuff. And so I landed on
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: where's the most expensive plane ticket?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: So you know, it's all the way across the other
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: side of the word.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: So in Australia, you know, I think going to Australia
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: or New Zealand, my buddy he took basically a sabbatical
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: and New Zealand cannot talk.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: More about it. Lord of the Rings if anyone.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not a huge fan, but all those shots are
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: in New Zealand.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Beautiful country.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: And then you know, I'm not a scuba diver, but
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I can appreciate all the reefs they're there.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I just think like, there's so much beauty there.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: And then when I went to Octoberfest and Munich, met
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: some Australians just super chill dudes. I'm not saying that
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: one group of people is the representation of a country,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: but my representation or my experience of those people are man,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: they're pretty chill. So you know, I think there could
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: be worse places to go.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Then going down on.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: The I've heard a lot of good things about Australia,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: so that would be a place that I would go to.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: But one of my big thing is the food, so
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I'm always about trying all the different foods no matter
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: where I go. So I was thinking about this as
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: we were talking, and I think, in this fantasy land
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: with money being no object, if I got to choose,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I would probably visit China. Really, I would go all
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: over the country. So you know this about me. But
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: growing up, my favorite video games series is actually actually
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: a series called Dynasty Warriors, which takes place at the
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: end of the Han dynasty.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: It's your favorite Dynasty Warriors, just real quick segue.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: The character which my favorite character out South. No, not Lubu,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: it's Outsal or cal Cow. It was called Calcow in
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: some of the earlier games, but I think, yeah, he
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: had the sword right, Yes, yes, he was my favorite character.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: So that game is actually based off of real history.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: But there's a popular novel in China called Romance of
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: the Three Kingdoms, which is kind of like a dramatization
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: of the historical events. So anyway, I say all that
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: to say I would go to China to travel all
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: around to where all of these events and these battles happened.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: While eating as much as I could throughout the entire country.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Uh, now would you? Is this what your wife would
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: want to do?
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: She's not important in this scenario. She may or may
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: not be joining me. H.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: It sounds funny because like my buddy he went to France,
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: but his biggest thing is.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: He like he wanted to go to the beaches in Normandy.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, I mean, it's neat to like stand
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: where history is made, but like there's nothing there, you know,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: It's like.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: It's just a beach now, you know.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like if you were going to do
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: a trip like that, you'd have to do a lot more,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Like you'd have to focus your trip on World War
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: two sites for example, or maybe if you're doing a
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: trip to France, you just put that in as one
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: of the excursions that you do. But but yeah, I would.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't base my entire trip off that one thing either.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: If I have to include my wife in this vacation fantasy,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: she is she's big on Europe. She loves England even
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: though she's already been there, so that's where she would
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: want to go, and we would.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Probably a particular of England or just.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know, probably London, London, Hogwarts wherever Hogwarts is.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: So we'd probably compromise and end up somewhere like Ireland. Uh,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: just because I don't have games. Yeah, we were a
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: year too late or a little too late on that one.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: No.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I just if we were going to go somewhere, I'd
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: rather not be the American traveling abroad that can't speak
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: the language, So it would have to be somewhere that
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: speaks English. And personally, personally, I'd prefer to go to
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Ireland over England right now.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I mean you got that brogue. I mean
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: you you've displayed it. I think you would fit right
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: in there.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they won't find that offensive in the slightest
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: or condoc man. All right, was there anything else you
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: wanted to talk about while we're here together?
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Uh? Okay, me and my buddies were talking about this too.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Oh boy, GCL. Do you think it's the best conference
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: in America?
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Just for the listeners that is the Uh? Is it
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Greater Catholic League?
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I just want to point out you're arguing that it's
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: the best conference in the country and you don't even
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: know what it stands for.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, because I didn't have to know. It's
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: it's just the g.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Looking up people google it. Yes, it's the Greater Catholic Le.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Do I finish your thought? I'm assuming you're gonna say, yes,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: it is the greatest conference.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean because so they used to have
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: it when we were in school, but it was like
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: the Ohio versus Everybody, and so they would bring in
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Damatha Hoover. I'm trying to think of other big names.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: We played Saint Thomas Aquinas, which had Chris Carter's son
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: on the team. We played independents who had one hundred
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: and nine game win streak and we beat them so
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: and we weren't even good that year, went seven and four.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: So I yeah, I think that we.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Are the best conference in America because I just I
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: don't know, so so I'm personally wrong at the bottom
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: where the where the AFC North of of high school football?
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that you want to go thrown
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: around the AFC North right now. But fun fact, and
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I think I've mentioned on the show before one of
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: the schools that my high school played in this Ohio
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: versus USA thing, And I'm sorry I can't remember if
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: you mentioned it. But this was actually like a Kirk
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Herb Street sponsored thing, like he showed up at the event.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: It was at Nippert Stadium for the University of Cincinnati.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I actually saw Marquise Pouncy play before I had any
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: idea who he was or had any care in the
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: world about him, because they played his high school. It
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: was a Lakeland Yeah, it was the Lakeland High School
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: from Lakeland.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Oh Yeahland's supposed to be pretty good.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: So let's see. That would have been my freshman year
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: that I saw him. I'm pretty sure that sine X won,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: but I'm looking at his Wikipedia and I wanted to
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: make sure my date's right. They won. They won their
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: third consecutive state championship that year.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Did he just play offense or did he also play defense?
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: I don't remember.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: It says it was a standout that you might play
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: both ways.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: It said he was a standout lineman. Actually, you know what,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: they might have beaten us, Like the more we're talking
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: about this game, the more because it says they won
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: a national championship too, And I feel like in high
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: school you'd probably have to go undefeated to claim a
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: national championship with so many teams out there. Okay, if
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: this is the game I'm thinking of, I think they won.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: But it was a close game, and I think we
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: kind of knew we didn't really have a fair shot
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: of winning. It was probably just the fact that a
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: team in high school traveled up from Florida and was
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: probably not used to that. But anyway, the point still stands.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I saw Marquise penalty before any of you even knew
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: who he was. To your original question, is the g
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: c L the best league in the country, I am
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: gonna say no, No, I don't know. You're just asking
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: me if it's the best. I'm gonna take the field.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Someone in the field is going to be better, all right,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: So let's say yeah. I would say, let's extrapolate now
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: that we're and use college as an example. If colleges
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: were only allowed to recruit from their own footprints, like
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: their own states, which state do you think would have
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: the best teams? Okay, so then there's a so then
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: there's a conference.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: And so it was yes, and they said that their
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: whole strategy Miami.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm like, yeah, they.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Would do like the they would cut like Florida in half,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: even right.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Yep, And they're just like basically the lower part of it.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: That's where we're going to recruit.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: And they turned out some of the best teams of
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: all time. So it doesn't even have all of Florida,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: just the half like Tampa Tampa down.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: So the reason I say that is, I'm just going
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to assume that you could pick whatever the best conference
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: in Florida or Texas or California, and just going by
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the raw talent, they've probably got the got the edge there.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I will say this about California.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: They got a lot of people, obviously, but I always
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: feel like they're tad soft. I don't know, just I
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: feel like the West Coast people don't normally think they're
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: not as hard news as a Southerner, a Midwesterner so,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: or a gritty Northeasterner.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: So you know, if there's any fans that are listening to.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: This and they're from the the West Coast, sorry to
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: burst your bubble, but I don't think you're soft.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: That is a surefire way to earn some loyalty from
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: some listeners out there by calling them soft, Come fight me.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Not quite where I pictured this conversation going, but anyway,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I will say I was listening to an interview with
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Urban Mind, and he talked about when he came to
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Ohio State, most of the schools in the Big Ten
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: just recruited from within their own footprint, and you'd have
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: a school like Ohio State go undefeated in non conference
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: and conference play and then they'd go to a bowl
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: game against the SEC and get smacked. So there's the
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: was it two thousand whatever in two years in a row?
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I think it was two thousand and seven, two thousand
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and eight, or maybe it was two thousand and six
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, where in back to back years
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: they played Florida and LSU, and like one year LSU
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: had two losses, it was the year that it was
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the year Ohio State was one, Michigan was two as
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: a very close game, and they decided that to not
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: do the rematch, they put two loss LSU in an
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: LSU just even giving them the opening kickoff just took
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: them to town. So that's the logic I'm applying here.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Urban Meyer said. One of the things that he started
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: doing was recruiting out of footprint when he got there,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure he's got his own bias towards his
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: own tenure there. But the logic resonated with me because
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I know that they made a big deal about when
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: they talked about USC around the same time. The discussion
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: was why can't USC keep its best recruits at home
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: and stay at USC? Why are they going over to
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Alabama and the SEC in Ohio State and Michigan. So
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think our California friends are soft. And I
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: think that if coaches at UCLA and USC could just
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: keep the best players from California in those two schools,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: they'd be two of the best schools in the country.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: So I think that they make a lot of good quarterbacks.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: But quarterbacks are are pretty soft, you.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Know, so they does anyone ever watch Replacements? But cheerlead
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Irvin Says tells Eana Reeves said quarterbacks are soft.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: So the second week in Arrow, you've brought that movie up.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Well, it's a great movie if you haven't watched Replacements.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a top five football movie.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe we should just have a weekly segment now where
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: you talk for a minute about like you're a different
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: part of the Replacements, and the next minute you can
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: do it. The next minute you can pick some sort
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: of audience or some sort of demographic and call them
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: soft and explain the reasons why you think they're soft.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: You know what.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: I even had a quote with my dad because we're
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: we're talking about putting stick them on the hands, and
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: there's a vulgar report of that movie. But says that
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: they did something to an elephant what he looks like.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: And then he says, what are they gonna do but
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: in football jail?
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Right, So.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: You know, hey, I'll rise to that challenge.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: We know we do not have to do the replacement.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: All right, Now that we've answered your question and agreed
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: that the GCL is not the best conference in.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: The country, all was there anything else you wanted to
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: hit on while we're here?
• 42:31
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  Speaker 1: Yes, let's stop before one of us puts his other
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  Speaker 1: foot in his mouth now too and calls someone else
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