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The Rita Panahi Show | 24 March · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: On scoring lids Australia. This is the Wader Panalty Show.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Patahy Show. Coming
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  Speaker 2: up tonight. Australians facing another round of skyrocketing bills, with
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  Speaker 2: interest rates, power bills and health insurance premiums set to
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  Speaker 2: jump next week. My panel will join me at a
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  Speaker 2: couple of days. Top headlines one nation attacked on all
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  Speaker 2: fronts after its success in the South Australian election.
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  Speaker 3: Barnaby Joyce will join the program.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to miss that Ice agents called in
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  Speaker 2: to restore order at airports across the US. Kosher Gata
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  Speaker 2: will cover that and the latest news from the US.
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  Speaker 2: And Alex Stein is on the ground in Dallas ahead
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  Speaker 2: of Sea Pack. He finds out what Americans really think
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  Speaker 2: about the Iran war that's coming up later in the
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  Speaker 2: hour and.
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  Speaker 3: Left he is losing It features this confused lass and
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  Speaker 3: sem you for using.
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  Speaker 4: Lesbian politics as a front for your transphobia, because this
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  Speaker 4: lesbian has had plenty of girlfriends with penises.
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  Speaker 2: But first Australian business leaders have worn the Albanezy government
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  Speaker 2: not to meddle in work from home arrangements during the
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  Speaker 2: fuel crisis, Energy Minister Chris Bowen on Sunday suggested people
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  Speaker 2: should be working from home where possible, noting that work
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  Speaker 2: from home has become an important part of Australian working life.
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  Speaker 2: Property developed him Gerner said Chris Bowen's comments are sending
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  Speaker 2: the wrong signal to employees at the wrong time. Chris Lucas,
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  Speaker 2: who runs one of Australia's largest hospitality empires, said shutting
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  Speaker 2: down the country.
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  Speaker 3: Would only lead to more economic misery.
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  Speaker 2: He said calling for work from home is a poorly
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  Speaker 2: considered reactionary move that would only further erode employment and
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  Speaker 2: the economy, placing even more pressure on a faltering economy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure anyone wants this. A more practical approach
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  Speaker 2: should focus on actions to ensure our eco economy and workers'
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  Speaker 2: lives are not impacted. Joining me now is News Corpus
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  Speaker 2: senior writer Patrick Carline and Institute of Public Affairs Research
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  Speaker 2: fellow Colleen Harken.
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  Speaker 3: Patrick.
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  Speaker 2: Business leaders seem increasingly nervous about the Albanese government's management
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  Speaker 2: of the economy, including the lack of planning. They don't
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  Speaker 2: seem to be prepared at all for any sort of
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  Speaker 2: disruption in the fuel supply that's right.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you really want to firm government in times
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  Speaker 5: of uncertainty. And Chris Bowen coming out and saying on
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  Speaker 5: the weekend, well, maybe work from home is a good thing. Well,
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  Speaker 5: it sort of brings in the question do we have
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  Speaker 5: a crisis? And how big is that crisis? They don't
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  Speaker 5: seem to be managing certainly the pr of it very well.
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  Speaker 5: And people like Chris Lucas, I mean here is one
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  Speaker 5: of the strongest voices during the lockdowns back in COVID
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  Speaker 5: against Dan Andrews. I listened to people like Chris Lucas.
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  Speaker 5: They know what they're talking about. They understand the economics
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  Speaker 5: of these things in a way that Chris Bowen certainly
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  Speaker 5: doesn't seem to at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: And Colleen, people like Chris Lucas have skin in the game.
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  Speaker 2: They actually employ people, they run businesses, and they can
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  Speaker 2: see the impact of these policies.
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  Speaker 3: I know there's business leaders.
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  Speaker 2: I've spoken to many, many business leaders who are shying
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  Speaker 2: away from investing in Victoria because of our work from
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  Speaker 2: home laws that are going to be enshrined.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Correct, And look, the government has no place to tell
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  Speaker 7: business to encourage their employees to work from home. It's
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  Speaker 7: just what they should be concentrating is on the supply
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  Speaker 7: chain issues and making sure that now and in the
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  Speaker 7: future we have energy sovereignty and fuel sovereignty and all
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  Speaker 7: those things that the government can do. It is not
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  Speaker 7: their place to stick their finger in a local business.
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  Speaker 7: Some of these businesses are only just recovering after COVID. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: because of the work from home scenario. Families are already
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  Speaker 7: under stressed dealing with the whole range of cost of
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  Speaker 7: living issues.
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  Speaker 8: People do not need to be told, oh, it'll be
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  Speaker 8: fine to stay at home, to.
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  Speaker 3: Stay at home, Yeah, what's that?
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  Speaker 2: Is really almost a comical response to the crisis we
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  Speaker 2: find ourselves in. You mentioned the cost of living crisis.
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  Speaker 2: That's about to get worse another wave of skyrocketing bills,
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  Speaker 2: with interest rates, power bills, and health insurance premiums all
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  Speaker 2: set to jump next week.
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  Speaker 3: New data from compare Club shows.
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  Speaker 2: The average household faces more than two thousand dollars in
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  Speaker 2: extra annual costs from April one. Patrick, This cost of
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  Speaker 2: living crisis is only getting worse. We were expecting during
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  Speaker 2: that last election consecutive interest rate drops. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: get some relief from.
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  Speaker 3: That that's right, it's gone the other way. Plus we've
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  Speaker 3: got all these additional costs, and.
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  Speaker 5: We're looking at potentially four dollars a later for petrol
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  Speaker 5: and feel I think that two thousand dollars is probably
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  Speaker 5: at the leaning end of where it might end up being,
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  Speaker 5: depending on where the war goes and for how long
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  Speaker 5: it plays out for It's going to be a really
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  Speaker 5: tricky time. And that's be because we came into when
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  Speaker 5: the start of the war in a perilous position. When
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  Speaker 5: it came to we have low productivity, we've got rising inflation,
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  Speaker 5: we've got interest rates going up.
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  Speaker 1: It is a perfect storm.
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  Speaker 2: And we are completely dependent on foreign oil. That is
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  Speaker 2: the shameful thing here, and that's something that's happened over
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  Speaker 2: decades of bad policies, But on this particular set of
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  Speaker 2: bills that are about to increase April one, Colleen, I
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  Speaker 2: wonder how many people are going to drop their health
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  Speaker 2: insurance because that's set to jump, and that's just going
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  Speaker 2: to put extra pressure on the public system.
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  Speaker 7: It's one of the first things that go when people
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  Speaker 7: are under financial pressure.
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  Speaker 8: The other thing tonight.
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  Speaker 7: Here to a point that you just made earlier about
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  Speaker 7: the cost of doing business in Victoria, and how many
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  Speaker 7: businesses will actually pursue their infrastructure here and whether it's
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  Speaker 7: just easier not to do it into state. There was
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  Speaker 7: a survey that came out the other day that said
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  Speaker 7: a third of Victorians.
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  Speaker 8: Are thinking of leaving. I mean, this is all very
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  Speaker 8: serious warning signs for what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 7: If people can't put food on the table because of
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  Speaker 7: the way that our state is being rung, they're very
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  Speaker 7: likely to look elsewhere. Businesses will find it much easier
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  Speaker 7: to deal with doing business interstate. These are all warnings
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  Speaker 7: about what's coming up for the next twelve, two years,
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  Speaker 7: three years.
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  Speaker 3: Patrick.
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  Speaker 2: That data was in the Herald Sun yesterday. I want
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  Speaker 2: to say it even shocked me to have I think
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  Speaker 2: it was thirty six percent of Victorians, and we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about across metro and regional areas, young and old Victorians
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  Speaker 2: saying they are wanting to move. I mean that's a
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  Speaker 2: drastic move, pulling up and moving into state or to
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  Speaker 2: another country.
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  Speaker 3: That's not something you consider lightly.
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  Speaker 5: Older Victorians have seen good times in Victoria through the nineties.
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  Speaker 5: We came off a recession that came good through the
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  Speaker 5: two thousands. Victoria was a happening place. It was a
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  Speaker 5: good place to be. It felt like it was dynamic
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  Speaker 5: and growing. And you have that counterpoint now where everything
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  Speaker 5: seems to be shrinking, everything seems to be harder. The
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  Speaker 5: government doesn't have a clue what it's doing. It's incompetent
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  Speaker 5: on so many levels. It's not a happy place to be.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't feel like it's progressive, does it No?
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  Speaker 2: And we've been demoralized by just little cuts as well.
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  Speaker 2: We lost the Grand Prix down in Philip Island. There's
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  Speaker 2: now talk today that the avalon air show may also
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  Speaker 2: be stolen by South Australia.
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  Speaker 3: And these are just little cuts. That's reminiscent by a
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  Speaker 3: thousand cuts. That's it.
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  Speaker 2: It reminds me of those Cane Kerner years where we
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  Speaker 2: really were in a lot of trouble. Perhaps we're in
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  Speaker 2: more trouble now. We're certainly in a lot more debt now.
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  Speaker 2: Tens of thousands of Victorian teachers more good news coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Tens of thousands of Victorian teachers have walked out of
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  Speaker 2: the classrooms in their first strike in over a decade.
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  Speaker 2: Parents received mixed messages on Monday afternoon as school's advice
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  Speaker 2: families to keep their children at home while the government
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  Speaker 2: and insisted it had the workforce to keep schools open.
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  Speaker 2: Most schools today operated in a supervisory capacity only, Patrick.
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  Speaker 2: The teachers Union is pushing for a thirty five percent
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  Speaker 2: pay increase and improved work conditions. I mean, I know
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  Speaker 2: there are amber claims, but goodness me, they are pushing
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  Speaker 2: for some extraordinary increases here.
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  Speaker 5: Look, I think surprisingly Having said that, I agree it
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  Speaker 5: sounds extraordinary that amount of a pay rise, but Victorian
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  Speaker 5: teachers are the lowest paid in Australia. There is some
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  Speaker 5: sympathy for them, and there's a lot of antipathy towards
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  Speaker 5: the Allen government of this and so many other things.
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  Speaker 5: It'll be interesting, I say, this is just another symbol
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  Speaker 5: of an incompetent government. Really, I mean they've been negotiating.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there're are negotiations with nurses and police officers and.
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  Speaker 1: So on all the time.
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  Speaker 5: The fact that it's actually got to the point of
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  Speaker 5: a strike, it's just another sort of black mark against
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  Speaker 5: the competency of this governm Life Colleen.
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  Speaker 2: They have been offered a what I would consider a
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  Speaker 2: pretty significant jump in earnings already, but this is going
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  Speaker 2: to be at first what our striking first time in
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  Speaker 2: ten years and it is an election here.
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  Speaker 3: If you're going to strike, it's the time to do it.
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  Speaker 7: Look, I have a slightly different view. We all want
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  Speaker 7: teachers to be paid well. Patrick's right that the Victorian
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  Speaker 7: teachers are the lowest paid in the country. We do
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  Speaker 7: want them to be paid well for doing a good job,
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  Speaker 7: but there is another question mark here about return on investment.
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  Speaker 7: Ten years ago, teachers at our student ratio was about
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  Speaker 7: eleven thousand dollars per student in a state budget. It's
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  Speaker 7: now at twenty one thousand dollars per student and we're
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  Speaker 7: not getting the results for that. About a third of
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  Speaker 7: our students are failing to meet minimum standards. So I'm
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  Speaker 7: all for paying teacher as well. They have an incredibly
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  Speaker 7: important job. But I also want to see a focus
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  Speaker 7: on their core purpose, and that's to actual that our
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  Speaker 7: kids can read and write and become independent citizens themselves,
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  Speaker 7: and that's the gap that we have. I also am
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  Speaker 7: not a big fan of the Australian Education Union who's
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  Speaker 7: running this, because they sort of seem to be much
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  Speaker 7: more focused on classroom activism than they are on actually
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  Speaker 7: making sure that the kids can read and write. So
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  Speaker 7: we want the teachers to be paid well, but I
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  Speaker 7: want them to be able to do their job.
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  Speaker 2: Colleen, what you identify is a nationwide issue. Hour spent
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  Speaker 2: on education has gone up across the country and yet
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  Speaker 2: the results are going backwards. But Patrick, interestingly, the responsible
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  Speaker 2: minister here in Victoria, maybe our next premiere and had
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  Speaker 2: more polling out today showing Justiner Allen is hugely unpopular
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  Speaker 2: and perhaps with Ben Carroll in the top job, they
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  Speaker 2: could be re elected Labor.
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  Speaker 5: Look, Ben Carroll's a bit more right. He's not as
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  Speaker 5: ideologically jealous, if you like. He occasionally makes common sense
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  Speaker 5: sort of statements that are odds with the Allen government line.
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  Speaker 5: I think he'd be far more palatable as a leader
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  Speaker 5: than Justintera Allen. But there are so many dynamics in
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  Speaker 5: play at the moment. You've got one nation in South Australia,
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  Speaker 5: one nation in Victoria, he said, the Liberal Party with
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  Speaker 5: Jess Wilson. The Liberals have been messing it up for
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  Speaker 5: a decade or longer. They're finally starting to get it right.
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  Speaker 5: There are so many factors in play here, it's very
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  Speaker 5: difficult to predict what.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you mentioned One Nation and Pauline Hanson has
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  Speaker 2: revealed her policy focus as the party prepares for its
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  Speaker 2: membership base to exceed fifty thousand people. Hanson has promised
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  Speaker 2: to replace large scale renewable projects with coal and nuclear
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  Speaker 2: and delivered tax incentives to help protect the family units.
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  Speaker 3: She has also.
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  Speaker 2: Pledged to abolish the Department of Climate Change, telling the
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  Speaker 2: Australian newspaper, there's unknown quantity of moneies that have gone
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  Speaker 2: into this bottomless plot that has the that the government's
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  Speaker 2: been thrown into to keep the renewables viable.
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  Speaker 3: Colleen. She also said she's heading to Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: What impact will the party have in the Victorian state
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  Speaker 2: election coming up in November.
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  Speaker 7: Look, I think that the One Nation impact will be
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  Speaker 7: quite significant. What we've seen in South Australia is large swings,
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  Speaker 7: I mean swings of somewhere in thirty percent in some
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  Speaker 7: of those seats, and even in very safe labor seats.
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  Speaker 7: Melan Orcus's own seat had about a nine percent swing
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  Speaker 7: against him. So Victoria, and you know, the wording here
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  Speaker 7: is that Victoria is very different to South Australia, which
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  Speaker 7: you know, sure it is. We have a very unpopular premiere,
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  Speaker 7: but that actually makes one nation more palatable in my view,
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  Speaker 7: because the frustration in Victoria is that the Coalition haven't
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  Speaker 7: been seen to be doing anything and providing an opposition.
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  Speaker 7: So one nation stepping up with very strong, clear, steadfast
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  Speaker 7: policies is what Victorians have been wanting for a long time.
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  Speaker 7: So I think the challenge for the Coalition is to
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  Speaker 7: claw back relevancy.
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  Speaker 2: And I've long said if Victoria wants to be an
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  Speaker 2: economic powerhouse again, if you want to pay back the
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  Speaker 2: massive debt, the biggest in the country, then we've got
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  Speaker 2: to look at gas exploration. We've got to really capitalize
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  Speaker 2: on the natural resources we have in this state. Patrick
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  Speaker 2: and the Libs don't talk about that at all, and
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  Speaker 2: they don't talk about having any sort of alliance a
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  Speaker 2: preference still with one nation. In fact, they've come out
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  Speaker 2: and rejected that again at state level.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, looks you'll hear this a lot this year. You'll
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  Speaker 5: hear the Libs come out and say a vote for
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  Speaker 5: one Nation will be a vote for labor. And I
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  Speaker 5: think I agree with everything you just said there, calling,
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  Speaker 5: But I think if Ja Cinra Allen goes to the
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  Speaker 5: election or this government, whether it's her or not, goes
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  Speaker 5: to this election, there is a really strong desire to
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  Speaker 5: get them out of government. How one nation plays into
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  Speaker 5: that is fascinating and it will keep on changing through
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  Speaker 5: the year. In South Australia it was a much more
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  Speaker 5: simple sort of dynamic. No one thought that Melanauskus was
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  Speaker 5: going to be unelected. In Victoria, we really are. You know,
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  Speaker 5: we have a government that has a huge number of
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  Speaker 5: seeds in the Parliament to be dislodged, which a lot
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  Speaker 5: of people want. Will take a massive push that's going
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  Speaker 5: to be sort of got to be coherent from the
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  Speaker 5: conservative side of politics.
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  Speaker 2: I just think this current strategy is foolhardy from the Liberals.
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  Speaker 2: You look at the polls even here in Victoria. While
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  Speaker 2: Nation are often outpolling the Liberals, they can't afford to
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  Speaker 2: just treat them as the red.
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  Speaker 3: Head, stop child, that is to be just dismissed. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they're not the enemy.
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  Speaker 2: That their policy positions are far more in line with
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  Speaker 2: traditional liberal values than some would argue the modern liberal parties.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think there's a real danger here. I've
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  Speaker 7: seen a Liberal MP yesterday mate comment about how they're
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  Speaker 7: concerned about the voter doesn't really understand what they're doing.
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  Speaker 8: You never tell the punter that they what they're doing correct.
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  Speaker 7: And I think part of this component is that the
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  Speaker 7: liberals have to, as I said, find relevancy and what
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  Speaker 7: is their purpose with integrity because they've had opportunity that
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  Speaker 7: squandered and so telling one nation people that you don't
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  Speaker 7: know what you're doing and you need to know stick
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  Speaker 7: with us because we know better than you is very problematic,
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  Speaker 7: particularly to the one nation voter.
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  Speaker 2: It is it's patronizing and it's really Australians don't react
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  Speaker 2: well to that. And I would say that people who
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  Speaker 2: are looking at casting their vote for one nation for
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  Speaker 2: the first time are fairly politically engaged.
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  Speaker 3: They're not doing that out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 2: They're doing that because there are paid attention and they're
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  Speaker 2: not happy with the major parties. Now, before you go, Patrick,
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  Speaker 2: I want to get your reaction to this column in
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  Speaker 2: the Sydney Morning Herald with the headline Multiculturalism is booming
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  Speaker 2: in the NRL while the AFL.
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  Speaker 3: Is getting whiter.
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  Speaker 2: The Peace states that in the NRL, fifty one percent
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  Speaker 2: of the playing population is PACIFICA or mary and a
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  Speaker 2: further twelve percent is indigenous. Meanwhile, in the AFL, about
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  Speaker 2: fourteen percent of the league is have parents born overseas
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  Speaker 2: or were oversees themselves, and only seven and a half
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  Speaker 2: percent are Indigenous, which is a twenty year low. And
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  Speaker 2: Patrick neil Breen also writes the question for the AFL
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  Speaker 2: is why are clubs shying away from highly talented Indigenous
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  Speaker 2: players and instead targeting ready made private school kids. Incredibly
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  Speaker 2: a little more than seventy percent of all AFL players
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  Speaker 2: were privately educated, Patrick, I would think there's some fairly
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  Speaker 2: obvious reasons for that, including that boys are good at football,
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  Speaker 2: tend to get scholarships to private schools, and hence they're
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  Speaker 2: the ones who are recruited.
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  Speaker 3: But how do you see this issue?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, in all those figures stated for both the
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  Speaker 2: NRL and the AFL, there's an overrepresentation of Indigenous players
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  Speaker 2: compared to the population.
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  Speaker 3: So I really can't.
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  Speaker 2: See what the issue he is and what the obsession
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  Speaker 2: with the color of the players is.
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  Speaker 5: Well, look, Indigenous players have made the AFL go around
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  Speaker 5: for generations. They are being shut out of this private
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  Speaker 5: school industry that really has veryvery professional and very mobilized
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  Speaker 5: now in such a way that any kid with any
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  Speaker 5: talent from the bush or wherever gets dragged to Xavia
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  Speaker 5: College or wherever on a scholarship. It makes the school
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  Speaker 5: look good and it becomes the pathway, the preferred pathway,
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  Speaker 5: because they get a good education.
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  Speaker 1: It's good for them.
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  Speaker 2: They getting used to city living and then the pressure
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  Speaker 2: of up training and football.
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  Speaker 5: And the group that suffers for that are those Indigenous
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  Speaker 5: players who don't get scholarships, who are very, very talented,
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  Speaker 5: probably need a lot more help in terms of live
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  Speaker 5: skills and the pressures and all the rest. This system,
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  Speaker 5: this private school system, has really just taken over the AFL.
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  Speaker 2: And I would also argue the AFL's obsession with race
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  Speaker 2: and some of the issues we've had have actually been
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  Speaker 2: hugely counterproductive for Indigenous players who are looking to be recruited.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: An URL doesn't seem to have those sorts of obsessions.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Patrick Carlin and Colleen Harken, thank you so much for
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: your time, pleasure. We spoke yesterday about the orange wave
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: that swept through South Australia over the weekend. Pauline Hansen's
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: One Nation recorded a primary vote of over twenty.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Percent at the state election.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: The party has so far won two seats in the
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Lower House and is in the running for three more seats.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Joining me now for his reaction is One Nation MP Barnaby,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Joyce Barnaby. It's an incredible result. He has sent shockwaves
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: through coalition ranks and Labor but without a working coalition
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: or preference still on the right. Are you just not
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: guaranteeing power for the Labor Party.
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: No, it's a political marketplace out there, reader, and obviously
• 18:40
  Speaker 9: the Liberal Party is not the product that they want
• 18:43
  Speaker 9: to buy. It's quite self evident that One Nation had
• 18:46
  Speaker 9: a higher vote than the Liberal Party, and that also
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: dispels the myth of people saying, well, one nation split
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: the Liberal Party vote. It's now apparent that the Liberal
• 18:54
  Speaker 9: Party vote split One Nation vote, so maybe they should
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: get out of the way.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: And give it to the true concern.
• 19:01
  Speaker 9: Ultimately, people make a decision at the at the ballot box.
• 19:06
  Speaker 9: They make a decision and are considered decision. If they've
• 19:09
  Speaker 9: changed one nation, they haven't done it because they it
• 19:14
  Speaker 9: you know, their surname rhymes with one Nation or something
• 19:17
  Speaker 9: like that. It's it's had a look at what's available
• 19:20
  Speaker 9: and they've decided that the proper reflection of conservative politics
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: is seen in one nation because it's clarity, it's unity,
• 19:27
  Speaker 9: its strength, it's it's not embarrassed about the conservative side.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Of it, of its views.
• 19:34
  Speaker 9: It's not chasing the sensible center. It's not wanting to
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: win back keel seats. It just has a clear silo
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: of its beliefs in Australian culture, rather than a multicultural
• 19:46
  Speaker 9: Australia that has guardrails and has expectations that people live
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: and act in a certain way that respects the rights
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: of others. It also believes that the climate bogus industry
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: that has corrupted our energy grid and now created exacerbated
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: the problems in what we have with the fuel crisis
• 20:09
  Speaker 9: is just a carpet bagger's dream and should be removed
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: from the political dynamic in Australia, and that those savings
• 20:16
  Speaker 9: should be banked. It believes in building coal fire powerstations.
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: It believes that people should have a right to stay
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: at home. They shouldn't be forced to go to work
• 20:25
  Speaker 9: and have to use child care. If they wish to,
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: they can, but if they wish to stay at home,
• 20:29
  Speaker 9: then we should be creating a tax system that allows
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: people to get a benefit to be at home with
• 20:35
  Speaker 9: their children and that's just a range of the policies
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: that we have, and people are attracted to those policies,
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: so they vote. And that's the wonderful thing about democracy.
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: People get to vote for what they believe in. Now,
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: the second party or question regards a coalition agreement. One
• 20:49
  Speaker 9: nation doesn't want to be in a coalition, But that
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: doesn't mean that you're not providing someone supply and confidence
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: if they require it. But quick the rejoinder of that,
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: of course, is we need supply and confidence. You'll supply
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: it to us as well, won't you.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Now you've personally come under fire from some in the
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: media for comments you made for an analogy you use
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: when talking about immigration.
• 21:16
  Speaker 10: Criticism is ownly continuing to mount as it calls to
• 21:20
  Speaker 10: deprioritize Muslim immigration.
• 21:23
  Speaker 9: I don't want to be tried about it. But it's
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: a bit like buying cattle. If you're getting cattle in
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: from a certain from off a certain seller and there's
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: an unreasonable number of ones that just don't work when
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: they get off the truck, well you don't buy them anymore.
• 21:36
  Speaker 10: Comparing Muslims to livestock not racist. According to South Australian teammate.
• 21:42
  Speaker 9: It's only the lefties, the bleeding heart lefties who don't
• 21:45
  Speaker 9: want any talk about immigration, that refer to this sort
• 21:48
  Speaker 9: of stuff as racist.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Barnaby any regrets about that analogy or is this the
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: case of the left just being determined to be offended, the.
• 22:00
  Speaker 9: Left being determined to be offended in fact, before that,
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: the part that they don't put on, of course rita
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: is I said I have no problems whatsoever about people
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: the Islamic faith coming to Australia, and was never about that.
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: They made the assumption because it suits their narrative of
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: you know, insult, harm, you know, drama, calamity. Look, I
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: don't want people coming from let's pick a place where
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: this Catholicism, Sinaloa. I think Cinelo, where the Sinela cartels.
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: I think that's pronunciation is right in Mexico. And even
• 22:34
  Speaker 9: though you might bring in one hundred people from them,
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: if there's ten people from the cartel, I'm sorry, we
• 22:39
  Speaker 9: just don't want any. And of course there are places
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: where people of the Islamic faith come to Australia no
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: problems whatsoever whatsoever. But I don't want to go to
• 22:49
  Speaker 9: the Beka Valley and chance my arm.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I think that would be foolish. Nor do I want to.
• 22:53
  Speaker 9: Go to the Sedan and say, well, look I know
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: the JANJUITI here, but we'll just take We'll just take potline.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I can see how we go.
• 23:01
  Speaker 9: If people come to Australia, just like if cattle come
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: onto your place, it's a recommendation of where they're coming from.
• 23:08
  Speaker 9: If you have a disproportionate number who when they arrive
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: on your property cause you problems, then you just don't
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: go back to that person and buy more cattle, because
• 23:18
  Speaker 9: that would be foolish.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I like the analogy, but there were plenty from SBS
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: and elsewhere who were very offended. But let's move on
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: to the attacks you're getting on the political fronts. You've
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: got the Greens, Labor, the Liberals coming for One Nation.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Here is small old Senator Maria kopfchic warning that a
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: vote for one Nation is a vote for labor.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Let me be.
• 23:46
  Speaker 11: Very clear as to the singular outcome of that election
• 23:50
  Speaker 11: result on Saturday night, and that is that a vote
• 23:53
  Speaker 11: for One Nation is a vote for a record labor majority.
• 23:59
  Speaker 11: If you want to labor governments across this country, you need.
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: To vote live for.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Barnaby what's your response to that?
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: Oh my god, where do I start with that one?
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: I'll tell you what here is the Here's a truth
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: about politics.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: The Labor Party.
• 24:19
  Speaker 9: Lose because of incompetence, the Coalition lose because of arrogance,
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: but it helps us. They become arrogant after they've actually
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: been in government. What that senator is doing is becoming
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: arrogant even before she's arrived in government.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: The contemptuous position.
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: That she says, if you dare vote for anybody but
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: me but me, you're voting for the Labor Party. I
• 24:43
  Speaker 9: think we're about as far from the Labor Party as
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: you get. I think we're a lot further from the
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: Labor Party than that particular senator just quietly.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's got something.
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: To do with the fact that she's number three on
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: the Coalition ticket and she knows that she's for the
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: high jump at the NETS federal election.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Because on the current polling.
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: That's obviously going to be a National Party senator and
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: if it's me, I'll be up against her and I'll
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: make sure it's a National Party senator.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Well, there were almost two thousand comments on that post
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: that she put up on Instagram and most of them
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: reflected a viewpoint similar to the one you've just expressed.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: I was quite surprised going through those comments.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Now, the Victorian election is later this year, the New
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: South Wales election is next year.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: What can we expect from one nation?
• 25:39
  Speaker 9: Well, I think that the party's growing obviously, it's a
• 25:41
  Speaker 9: massive membership now and the skill sets are growing as well.
• 25:46
  Speaker 9: Like any organization that grows, it has the.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Growing pains that you have to deal with.
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: But on the good side, you have so many more
• 25:54
  Speaker 9: skill sets coming in which complement what we already have.
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: You can see that I suppose in people such as
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: David Farley coming through now in Pharaoh, former CEO of
• 26:03
  Speaker 9: Collie Cotton, and the Australian Agricultural Company has done courses
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: in Harvard, So you can't be a fool. And this
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: is you're going to get more and more of that,
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: and I think you're going to be quite surprised with
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: candidates that I know of that will arrive, and when
• 26:19
  Speaker 9: they do arrive, you'll go, yep, top shelf, completely competent.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: And that's what we want.
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: We want to give the Australian people an option that's
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: a real conservative option, and we have a different way
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: of doing politics.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: We say, these.
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: Are the beliefs, these are the philosophical beliefs we hold.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: We're not ashamed of them.
• 26:38
  Speaker 9: We will tell you what they are you and hopefully
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: we win the argument that you would agree with us.
• 26:44
  Speaker 9: We don't go chasing the sensible center or go pole chasing,
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: because that just shows you're weak and weak people ultimately
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: do not take the nation to a good place.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: What you have? Have you got static statements of the
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: bleeding obvious?
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Any names you want to tell us about these high
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: caliber candidates that you've got coming up, not just one
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: for our.
• 27:08
  Speaker 9: Audience, No, no, I don't, but I think it will
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: also to spell it also dispel the notion and some
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: of them where you know you're racist and your bigots.
• 27:19
  Speaker 9: I think you'll see something that people will come forward
• 27:21
  Speaker 9: and you go, hang on, they can't be and you're
• 27:24
  Speaker 9: dead right.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: We're not.
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: We're conservative, which means we say things. We're not there
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: to make the SBS feel happy with us. In fact,
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: if the SBS and the Greens are happy with us,
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: we're probably not doing our job.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Bar to be Joyce, always a pleasure.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Thanks for your time tonight, Still to Karma left is
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: losing it plus lit or latest from the US, including
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: absolute mayhem across airports due to Democrat recalcitrants.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Kosher Gaido is up next.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: You're watching the Rita Paney Show, and it's time for
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: lefties losing it. And let's go to Cuba and check
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: in on the commy convoy that's in the country right now.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: These are pampered champagne socialists.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: From the West in Cuba to slam the US, not
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: the communist dictatorship. And if that wasn't bad enough, they're
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: inflicting this hideous noise on the Cuban people.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: That was the band Kneecap.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: They got that name because folks would rather be kneecapped
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: than listen to a whole song. I mean, really, haven't
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: the Cuban people suffered enough? Now let's hear from a
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: crazy Canadian with dreams of murder, yes, dreams of assassination.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: This woman works in the Canadian school system. That's when
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: she is not fantasizing about President Trump being killed.
• 29:07
  Speaker 12: I know we're all waiting for it to happen, but
• 29:10
  Speaker 12: here's what I want to see occur. When it happens.
• 29:17
  Speaker 12: With our luck, it's probably going to be that it's
• 29:19
  Speaker 12: going to happen in the middle of the night and
• 29:21
  Speaker 12: we're not going to know until the morning. But on
• 29:23
  Speaker 12: one of my previous posts, I said, if that happens
• 29:25
  Speaker 12: and you're a weak and you're aware of it, please
• 29:27
  Speaker 12: make sure you wake me up. Camesm and I think
• 29:30
  Speaker 12: that that is how this should go down. I don't
• 29:33
  Speaker 12: think it should be peaceful, compassionate.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Always the crazy eyes. They always have crazy eyes. It's
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: a warning, now, you know. I miss the good old
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: days when words had meanings. Lesbianism, for example, meant a
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: woman's exclusive attraction to other.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Women female bodies.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: You think it'd be safe to assume that lesbians are
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: women sexually or romantically attracted to the female. But no,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: these days that definition is bigoted because lesbians can have penises.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Apparently, Shame on you, Shame on all of you, and
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: shame on you for using lesbian politics as a front
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: for your transphobia, because this lesbian has had plenty of
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: girlfriends with penises.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Talk about confused and angry.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Now to the man Democrats think will be the next
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Senator for the Great State of Texas, James Tallerico, who
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: here jokes about God's sausage and doubles down on his
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: claim that God is non binary.
• 30:38
  Speaker 13: How big is God's sausage?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Would you say?
• 30:42
  Speaker 14: We know God is a man, and so I'm just wondering,
• 30:46
  Speaker 14: like how healthy it's hog is?
• 30:49
  Speaker 13: So so I know this is rapid fire, but let
• 30:53
  Speaker 13: me just because do word answer yes or no? While
• 30:59
  Speaker 13: it's maybe provocative politically, I don't think it's controversial theologically.
• 31:05
  Speaker 13: Most Christians believe that God is beyond gender.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Sometimes lost for words, but let's stick with the sausage theme. Heah,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: here is James tall Rico back in twenty twenty two,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: banning sausages to save the well formed catastrophic climate change.
• 31:24
  Speaker 15: As all of you know necessary to fight climate change,
• 31:27
  Speaker 15: it is now existential that we try to reduce our
• 31:31
  Speaker 15: meat consumption and that we try to respect animals in
• 31:34
  Speaker 15: all aspects of society. And so I am proud to
• 31:37
  Speaker 15: say that our campaign has officially become a non meat campaign,
• 31:42
  Speaker 15: so we we are only buying vegan products from our
• 31:48
  Speaker 15: local vegan businesses.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: And of course it was still wearing a mask in
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. This is the soyboy radical weirdo. The
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Democrats want to represent Texas joining me now is Sky
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: News contributor Kosher Gaeta Kosher James tallerco is.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: A unique candidate that's putting it nicely here.
• 32:10
  Speaker 16: Seems to be the gift that keeps giving for the
• 32:12
  Speaker 16: other side. There's so much video just sorro for seeing.
• 32:16
  Speaker 16: Obviously you played those clips, and it's really funny because
• 32:19
  Speaker 16: Jasmine Crockett had that mantle earlier and she also was
• 32:22
  Speaker 16: a gift the cup giving and now she's exited stage left.
• 32:25
  Speaker 16: He's in central stage and I have a feeling that
• 32:27
  Speaker 16: the Democrats might be regretting it potentially because the sky
• 32:30
  Speaker 16: and the things he's seeing in Texas. It's going to
• 32:34
  Speaker 16: be fun because.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: They would have had a chance even in Texas, given
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: the midterms go against the sitting government. We know that
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: the swings normally come in quite strongly, and with gas
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: prices high and the war Iran, it was just ripe
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: for them to get a big win. And then they've
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: got a candidate like this. It's just so radical and
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: hard left and just weird.
• 33:03
  Speaker 16: To put it mildly, you know, the Texas has been
• 33:05
  Speaker 16: a forty year project for them, and a lot of
• 33:07
  Speaker 16: the immigration policy obviously being a border state, it sits
• 33:10
  Speaker 16: there and they have been shipping away and at the
• 33:12
  Speaker 16: county and local level have turned many parts of blue
• 33:16
  Speaker 16: beta or rouric. Remember him a Tad Cruz.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: He came pretty close.
• 33:19
  Speaker 16: He came with an almost striking distance, which rattle people
• 33:22
  Speaker 16: because Tad Cruse was incumbent senator, had been there a
• 33:24
  Speaker 16: long time. Didn't pull it out in the end, but
• 33:27
  Speaker 16: you know, those are little signals.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: So that a lot of money went into Beto's campaign,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: a lot of money. So let's not forget it wasn't
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: an equal fight. Now you can file this next story
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: under you don't hate the leftist media enough. Have a
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: look at the headline they put on a story about
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: the New York Mazor and Mam Daney's wife and her
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: antics online, including liking October seven tweets glorifying terrorists using.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: The N word.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: According to CNN, it's just a little storm in a
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: tea cup about her her facing scrutiny over her art
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: and social media. I mean, really kosher. That is not
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: how they would describe a conservative who'd been caught saying
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: those sorts of words and liking those sorts of tweets.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: But how radical is this first couple of New York.
• 34:21
  Speaker 16: Also maybe the gifts that keep giving, but different there
• 34:23
  Speaker 16: because their power is pretty secure, pretty cemented, because it
• 34:28
  Speaker 16: isn't a surprise. Maybe these particular tweets are surfacing now
• 34:31
  Speaker 16: or the art work, but they have not been shy
• 34:33
  Speaker 16: about how they view all sorts of issues and still
• 34:36
  Speaker 16: handily won, including by the Jewish community in New York,
• 34:39
  Speaker 16: which is a large diaspora, certainly the under forty five
• 34:42
  Speaker 16: year olds. I mentioned that in particular for obvious reasons,
• 34:45
  Speaker 16: but also across up and down the electorate, they seem
• 34:49
  Speaker 16: to be beyond approach. I think with the demographics and
• 34:52
  Speaker 16: the electorate the way it is today New York City.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: It's going to be fascinating to see what happens in
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: New York over the next couple of years. We've already
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: got Peau saying they're selling up, they're leaving, they're not
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: going to pay those sorts of property taxes. But remains
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: to be seen. Now, let's hear from Democrat Ted lou here.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: He accuses Donald Trump of.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Rape and murder.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: This is astonishing, astonishing stunt, even by Democrat standards.
• 35:19
  Speaker 17: He met a girl who said she was raped by
• 35:21
  Speaker 17: Donald Trump, and Jeffrey Epstein. She later had her head
• 35:25
  Speaker 17: blown off, and officers at the scene said that could
• 35:27
  Speaker 17: not have been suicide.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Kosher.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: There have been calls for President Trump to sue the
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: congressman there, but that's not likely for a very good reason.
• 35:38
  Speaker 16: Yes, so the speech and debate clause and Congress protects them.
• 35:43
  Speaker 16: That's an extra layer shield of protection legally, where anything
• 35:46
  Speaker 16: they says cannot be prosecuted. He has been similar comments
• 35:50
  Speaker 16: in a press conference though on February third, similar allegation,
• 35:53
  Speaker 16: so that would not be protected by that particular shield. However,
• 35:58
  Speaker 16: even without that, libel laws are very very strict for
• 36:01
  Speaker 16: public figures in the US because of the First Amendment.
• 36:03
  Speaker 16: It's really really hard to sue a public figure and win,
• 36:07
  Speaker 16: and I think everybody's aware of that. So I think
• 36:09
  Speaker 16: it's unlikely Trump goes there. He has been on a
• 36:12
  Speaker 16: suing spree with others, but they're all corporate people. So
• 36:14
  Speaker 16: even if it was George Stephanoplos, it was really EBC
• 36:16
  Speaker 16: and Disney where they settle so it doesn't go to trial.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: And they said nothing like what we just heard. I mean,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: this is on another level.
• 36:25
  Speaker 16: But Tadlu is unlikely to be somebody who pursues because
• 36:28
  Speaker 16: he won't get a settlement to the tune of millions
• 36:30
  Speaker 16: of dollars.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Of millions of dollars exactly.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Now, there's been absolute mayhem at airports across America. This
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: is largely due to the Democrats refusal to pass legislation
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: that would ensure some measure of election integrity. TSA agents
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: are not being paid due to the partial government shutdown
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: affecting the Department of Homeland Security, and so ICE agents
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: have had to be called in to restore order. Let's
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: see how that's been working in America's busiest airport in Atlanta.
• 37:01
  Speaker 18: Finally, we can take a deep breath here. The numbers
• 37:03
  Speaker 18: have dropped off. The lines are getting shorter. I think
• 37:06
  Speaker 18: the average way time now is under forty minutes. So
• 37:09
  Speaker 18: if you have a flight to catch today, it's a
• 37:10
  Speaker 18: good time to become a Hartsfield Jackson International. Talking about those
• 37:13
  Speaker 18: ICE agents, you can see a few behind me right there,
• 37:16
  Speaker 18: and then I'm going to walk you this direction and
• 37:18
  Speaker 18: you can see some more of them gathered over here.
• 37:21
  Speaker 18: This is what they've been doing for the most part today,
• 37:23
  Speaker 18: is doing the patrols around the airport. Is what we're
• 37:27
  Speaker 18: being told is there's a protest schedule against ICE here
• 37:30
  Speaker 18: at the airport in the next two hours or so.
• 37:32
  Speaker 18: So now you have extra police officers from Atlanta Police
• 37:35
  Speaker 18: Department ready to respond to what may happen when protesters arrive.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Of course, as soon as order is restored, the leftists
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: are coming into cause having a can, they're going to
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: be there protesting ICE, who are actually getting people moving
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: because those delays, there were so many people showing up
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: four or five hours early for their flights and still
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: missing them.
• 37:57
  Speaker 16: And at dayt age of social media, it was crazy,
• 37:59
  Speaker 16: like the snake line going all the way out to
• 38:01
  Speaker 16: the parking lot and everyone around.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: The world sees it.
• 38:03
  Speaker 16: It is funny the substituting ICE in there, because ICE
• 38:07
  Speaker 16: has been fully funded at least at its current capacity
• 38:09
  Speaker 16: in the big Beautiful Bill, whereas these other departments are
• 38:12
  Speaker 16: caught up in the shutdown fight. And so that would
• 38:15
  Speaker 16: really be funny if for any federal agency for short
• 38:17
  Speaker 16: on IRS agents, that's sub in ICE for short on
• 38:20
  Speaker 16: the TSA seven ICE, given the immigration problem in the agenda,
• 38:23
  Speaker 16: that would really be funny. I'll just make a quick
• 38:25
  Speaker 16: other broader point though, that the TSA there is a
• 38:29
  Speaker 16: whole sentiment out there that it should be abolished or
• 38:32
  Speaker 16: downsized completely. It's a relic of the Patriot Act after
• 38:35
  Speaker 16: nine to eleven. There isn't evidence that it really is
• 38:37
  Speaker 16: doing much to keep things safer. You could privatize it,
• 38:41
  Speaker 16: you could do it in a different way, and it's
• 38:42
  Speaker 16: just completely destroyed the experience of flying in America. It's
• 38:45
  Speaker 16: not the fault of the individual agents not getting paid
• 38:47
  Speaker 16: right now, but that's a whole other conversation worth unpacking
• 38:51
  Speaker 16: at some point now.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: House Minority lead at Hakim Jeffries. He is kind that
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: the Trump administration's decision to deploy ICE two airports ICE
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: agents will create chaos and even imply that airline passages
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: could be killed by these ICE agents.
• 39:10
  Speaker 14: The last thing that the American people need are for
• 39:12
  Speaker 14: untrained ICE agents to be deployed at airports all across
• 39:16
  Speaker 14: the country, potentially to brutalize or in some instances, kill them.
• 39:20
  Speaker 14: We've already seen how ICE conducts itself.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, what can you say to that.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: You can tell the media knows precisely who's to blame
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: for this chaos we've seen at airports across America because
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: they haven't been keen to highlight it because so many
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: ordinary people, whatever their politics, have been impacted, and that's
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: something you remember perhaps when it's time to vote.
• 39:47
  Speaker 16: It is one of those few issues that actually affects you.
• 39:50
  Speaker 16: And if you have to weep seven hours and a misterflate,
• 39:52
  Speaker 16: you probably are going to remember that. On some level,
• 39:54
  Speaker 16: they're trying to vilify Ice. Obviously we know what happened
• 39:57
  Speaker 16: in Minneapolis, so that does give them a ready meat
• 39:59
  Speaker 16: there that they can copy and peace into every situation.
• 40:03
  Speaker 16: But the intermedion that you're a grandma trying to get
• 40:06
  Speaker 16: on a flight and your lafers and danger because he
• 40:08
  Speaker 16: says there, is ridiculous and he knows it.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: More on the communists convoy to Cuba, featuring pampered Western Communis,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: including Hassan Piker, who has been accused of throwing food
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: at Cuban children. The goal of this whole exercise is
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: to embarrass the American government, the Trump administration, blaming them
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: for Cuba's many issues.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: But the Cubans.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Themselves are fighting back against this narrative, including this gentleman
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: who had this message for the leftists.
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: You rather see, You.
• 40:42
  Speaker 18: Rather see when people keep suffering, because white, so Donald
• 40:45
  Speaker 18: Trump doesn't get the credit.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: This is not about Donald Trump.
• 40:48
  Speaker 18: It's about somebody standing up finally and standing up to
• 40:50
  Speaker 18: a communist machine, a dictatorship kosher.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: He also said the power grid has been cactus for
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: forty years in Kubat. Decades of communists rule have completely
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: devastated the country, and he's still got family in Cuba,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: and obviously he wants to see it free. I'm just
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: shocked that these socialists, Western socialists aren't paying any attention.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: They're not reading the room at all about what Cubans want.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: The fact that more than a million of them have
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: fled the country because they don't want to live under
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: a communist dictatorship.
• 41:27
  Speaker 16: And they are always reliably center rate. Always people who
• 41:30
  Speaker 16: fled Eastern Europe, people who fled Cuba, understand what the
• 41:34
  Speaker 16: logical endpoint is of this sliding skill of having more
• 41:38
  Speaker 16: and more authoritarian government, in sliding into that Cuba is
• 41:41
  Speaker 16: a poster a child of what that can do. Forty
• 41:43
  Speaker 16: years of pure commerce regime. They also relied a lot
• 41:46
  Speaker 16: on external allies like Russia for oil, Iran Venezuela that's
• 41:51
  Speaker 16: drying up for all the reasons we know, which is
• 41:53
  Speaker 16: exacerbating that problem, and then the US and argos. So
• 41:56
  Speaker 16: it seems like Cuba is going to fall quote unquote,
• 41:59
  Speaker 16: and then we see what the Trump agenda does or
• 42:02
  Speaker 16: how they handle that, because that is part of their
• 42:04
  Speaker 16: strategy of hemispheric stability.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: That would be a triumph if they Cuba falls the
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: communist dictation to sheep falls without a shot being fired.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: That would be something to celebrate. Koshergator, thank you so
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: much for your time.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Pleasure still to come.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: We hit the streets of Dallas to learn what Americans
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: really think of Trump's war against Iran. Alex Stein joins me. Next,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: welcome back. Now, sadly, there's a terrible news from the
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: sanctuary city of Chicago, where a young woman, Sheridan Gorman,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: has been killed by an illegal immigrant. Eighteen year old
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Sheridan was a gunned down while taking a walk with
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: friends along Chicago's lakefront. Now, listen to this leftist member
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: of the Chicago City Council. Her name is Maria Hadden.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Listen to what she had to say about this shocking crime.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: She all but blames the victim for startling the killer.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: It sounds like this might have been a wrong place,
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: wrong time running into a person who had a gun.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: They might have startled this person at the end of
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: the year unintentionally.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Joining me now is the host of After Hours with
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Alex Steine on Real America's Voice. Alex Stein that counselor
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Maria Hadden is being slammed for those comments, including by
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: the grieving family of the young teenage victim. Sheridan Gorman's
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: family has released a statement referencing Hadden's remarks and said
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: the slain college student deserved the future that was stolen
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: from her. They also wrote, what happened to Sheridan cannot
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: be reduced to the idea of someone being in the
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: wrong place at the wrong time.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: This is not an abstraction.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: This is the loss of a daughter, the loss of
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: a sister, the loss of a future filled with milestones
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: that will now never come.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Our family is forever change.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Alex's is just another crime that wouldn't have happened if
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: the Democrats didn't embrace open borders and didn't have sanctuary
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: cities for those in the country illegally.
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: No Rita.
• 44:12
  Speaker 17: I mean, if you look at the leadership in Chicago,
• 44:14
  Speaker 17: it is one of the worst rand cities in the
• 44:17
  Speaker 17: entire world. And obviously this is a horrible tragedy. But
• 44:20
  Speaker 17: you know what's even I would argue, almost just as
• 44:22
  Speaker 17: big a tragedy is that they're losing the Chicago Bears.
• 44:24
  Speaker 17: And I'm not even saying that to be funny, but
• 44:26
  Speaker 17: I'm saying, this is a city that doesn't care about
• 44:28
  Speaker 17: their citizens so much so that they had a football
• 44:30
  Speaker 17: franchise that everybody loved, and.
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: Now they're going to Indiana.
• 44:33
  Speaker 17: And when people get shot, the city council members don't
• 44:36
  Speaker 17: care because they literally do.
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: Not care about their citizens whatsoever.
• 44:40
  Speaker 17: So there's a laundry list of reasons that just proved
• 44:43
  Speaker 17: my point exactly. And Chicago's a place it used to
• 44:45
  Speaker 17: be great, and it is not even close to that
• 44:48
  Speaker 17: level anymore.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Well, individuals are flaying, businesses are flaying, and sporting clubs
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: are flaying.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: From what you've just said.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Now, you're in Dallas, Seapack is in Dallas. This year,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: you've been out and about talking to your fellow Texans
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: about the war in Iran.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Let's have a look.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: What do you think about Donald Trump starting the war
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: with Iran? Why did we bomba school?
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Why would you ever do that?
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: What?
• 45:15
  Speaker 11: Who decided that is that you Donald disappointed, He'll go away.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: It's perfect, It's awesome.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: You should have done it in a long time ago said
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: that this doesn't get out of place. Israel should not
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: have been attacked, and we're going to stand by Israel
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: no matter what.
• 45:30
  Speaker 13: What do you want to tell Trump?
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: He's going to see this.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Hey love you Trump, Hey you Trump.
• 45:38
  Speaker 18: The file.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: In American and we still love you, we still support you.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Dallas is a little different, isn't it. It's not quite Austin,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: but it's a little different. Tell me about the mood
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: on the ground and also what you expect to see
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: at seapack.
• 45:54
  Speaker 17: We'll read a seapack is going to be a lot
• 45:56
  Speaker 17: of fun, but there's also going to be a lot
• 45:57
  Speaker 17: of drama. I mean, it's obvious right now. A lot
• 46:00
  Speaker 17: of people are upset that we're having this war. A
• 46:02
  Speaker 17: lot of people were happy that we're having this war.
• 46:04
  Speaker 17: And it's a mixed bag. And luckily here in America,
• 46:06
  Speaker 17: our gas prices have been up about forty three percent
• 46:08
  Speaker 17: over the last three weeks, but that can easily go.
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: Down if this war ends.
• 46:12
  Speaker 17: I mean, today Trump said that he's negotiating peace talks
• 46:15
  Speaker 17: or a ceasefire, and then the prices went down a
• 46:17
  Speaker 17: little bit.
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: So I think everything that's happened can be fixed.
• 46:20
  Speaker 17: But I think as well, we're on a slippery slope
• 46:22
  Speaker 17: where things can get very scary, very fast, and the
• 46:25
  Speaker 17: potential for nuclear weapons as possible, So.
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: Nobody wants that to happen. Everybody wants cheap gas.
• 46:31
  Speaker 17: And to be fair, though the gas prices have not
• 46:33
  Speaker 17: gotten as high as they were under Biden when the
• 46:35
  Speaker 17: Ukraine War started, so things the wheels have not fallen
• 46:39
  Speaker 17: off yet by any means.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: No, And the US is energy independent, something you can't
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: say for Australia, and I think you're a net exporter
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: of energy.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: But tell me about what is happening in the conservative movement.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Obviously, SPAK is a huge annual event, a lot of
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: debate amongst conservatives.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Are the Republicans split.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Over the war in Iran? Or is it just a
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: minority who opposed this war?
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: No readA.
• 47:09
  Speaker 17: I mean, if you listen to CNN, it says one
• 47:11
  Speaker 17: hundred percent of MAGA supports this war, and that's just
• 47:14
  Speaker 17: provably false because I'm mag. I voted for Donald Trump
• 47:17
  Speaker 17: three times and I don't like this war because I
• 47:19
  Speaker 17: know that it's going to cause a lot of repercussions.
• 47:21
  Speaker 17: I mean, the likelihood of a terrorist attack happening in
• 47:23
  Speaker 17: America is only going.
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: To go up. And I would argue that now Iran
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: is going to be more motivated.
• 47:28
  Speaker 17: Than ever to get a nuclear weapon, and nobody wants
• 47:30
  Speaker 17: them to have a nuclear weapon.
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: I mean, they're literal terrorists.
• 47:33
  Speaker 17: But at the same exact time, now they're fighting a
• 47:36
  Speaker 17: proxy war with Russia and Iran who has been helping them,
• 47:40
  Speaker 17: And we've been helping Ukraine fight a proxy war with Russia.
• 47:43
  Speaker 17: So this very easily could become a world war. And
• 47:46
  Speaker 17: at the same exact time, Donald Trump is asking for
• 47:48
  Speaker 17: all of the European Union to come together and help them.
• 47:50
  Speaker 17: So just that alone makes us a world war. And
• 47:53
  Speaker 17: Donald Trump campaigned on no new wars. That was a
• 47:56
  Speaker 17: big part of a strategy. And I think that you
• 47:59
  Speaker 17: can believe what you want to about me, but JD.
• 48:01
  Speaker 17: Vance has been very quiet when it comes to this war.
• 48:03
  Speaker 17: And I think that's very telling because people are positioning
• 48:06
  Speaker 17: who's going to be the top dog next.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Well, that in itself is going to be hugely interesting,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: isn't it. Because you've got Marco Rubio, who seems to
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: be far more on board with this conflict and seems
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: to be sharing a worldview with President Trump.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: And then you've got JD.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Vance, who is many suspect anti war in this instance,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: even and President Trump has been open about him and JD.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Vans have having different views on this conflict. How do
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: you see that race? Because for a long time JD.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Vance was going to be the successor, he was going
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: to be the next Republican candidate for president. Now there's
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of people pushing Marco Rubio and saying his
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: performance as Secretary of State has been so brilliant that
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: he's really the front runner now for that position.
• 49:00
  Speaker 17: Give the edge to Marco Rubio because he has Trump
• 49:03
  Speaker 17: behind him one hundred percent. But really the big test
• 49:05
  Speaker 17: will be the midterms coming up in November, and if
• 49:08
  Speaker 17: Donald Trump and the Conservatives get crushed in the midterms,
• 49:11
  Speaker 17: that's going to send a message that they're going to
• 49:13
  Speaker 17: have to totally recalibrate their plans.
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: Going into the next election. So that'll be the litmus test.
• 49:18
  Speaker 17: We'll see how many people support Donald Trump and support us.
• 49:21
  Speaker 17: Because Donald Trump won all the moderates, you know, he
• 49:24
  Speaker 17: dominated this past election because all the people that were
• 49:26
  Speaker 17: undecided voted for Trump.
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: And we'll see if that's the case in the upcoming midterms,
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: and if it's not.
• 49:31
  Speaker 17: Then it's going to be a blood bath to see
• 49:33
  Speaker 17: who is the nominee for the Conservatives in twenty twenty eight.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: You one hundred percent right, Donald Trump got the independence
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: and a lot of people who don't pay attention to
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: US politics don't know that. Alex Stein, thank you so
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: much for your time tonight, and that's all the time
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: we have. I'll see you at eleven tomorrow night. Newsnight
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: is up next.