Latest / The Cryptid Huntress / Pale Crawlers - Worldwide Sightings & the Government Connection
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- 0:52Well, hey, everybody, welcome into a Glitch in the Matrix. I'm
- 0:56your host, Jessica Jones. I'm the crypton Huntress, and man, I
- 1:00am so excited. I have two powerhouses in the studio today. I have
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- 1:11too, to come and talk about the Pelle Crawlers with us today. My
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- 3:30you guys so much from the bottom of my heart. Okay, let's get
- 3:35the show on the road today. So for people who are not familiar with
- 3:39pell crawlers, pill crawlers, they are so creepy and they're all over the
- 3:46internet right now. All sorts of videos of them. Pill crawlers are being
- 3:50reported and seen quite frequently across the United States and throughout the world. Videos
- 3:54and home security footage of pell crawlers and the Appalachian Mountains have recently been posted
- 3:59on social media sites and Long Island Bigfoot Mic, who's in the chat,
- 4:03recently came on my show as Based Out Radio this past Sunday and told about
- 4:08his terrifying account when he was in the woods up in New York. I
- 4:13believe hell crawlers are a quadrupedal human like creatures that are often described as resembling
- 4:19adult humans who walk on all fours, although there are reports of them walking
- 4:25on two legs. They have thin, gangly frames and are always naked.
- 4:31They've never seen wearing clothes, not yet, and they have translucent skin with
- 4:36no hair. They're fairly large in stature. I mean they're anywhere from like
- 4:41six to eight feet tall, and they are described as having sunken in eyes
- 4:46and a wet sheen covering their bodies. And of course Long Island Bigfoot Mic
- 4:50said that he could see the blue veins poking out of his skin. Okay,
- 4:55so super scary. Something you don't want to encounter in the woods at
- 5:00night if you don't have to. So what exactly are these things? Where
- 5:04are they coming from? Is our government aware of them? We're going to
- 5:09get a little conspiratorial today because we've heard that cryptids have been in our potentially
- 5:15used as assets in agencies and potentially governments. So we are going to be
- 5:21doing a deep dive on this today. We're going to be talking like we're
- 5:25not claiming to be experts on this, okay, But but I have doctor
- 5:30Dennis Carroll here today and I also have Barry Littleton here, so I'm going
- 5:33to bring both of them up. Please help me. Welcome to the show,
- 5:36Doctor Dennis Carroll and Barry Littleton. Hey, guys, all right,
- 5:46sir up. Well, of course, gosh, this is going to be
- 5:51a great conversation today because I've been seeing all these videos of pall crawlers and
- 5:59the first thing I think, I generally think of both of you guys whenever
- 6:02I see something that's really creepy, and I'm always wondering what y'all's opinions are
- 6:06on these things. And so it's such a treat to have y'all both here
- 6:11today. And I've got Long Island Bigfoot in the chat. Uh. He
- 6:15actually had his own encounter with the pill crawler a while back and he was
- 6:20protected from that thing by a bigfoot, and so we're we'll get into that
- 6:26conversation here in just a little bit as well. But have either have both
- 6:30of you guys heard of the pill crawlers. I'm sure you have. Okay,
- 6:33Uh, but what are all opinions on this? Either either one of
- 6:39you, Well, to me, they are very freaky. Okay, let's
- 6:45let's put at that last. Yeah, very freaky things. And here's the
- 6:48here's three things we got to think we've got to consider when we think about
- 6:51pale crawlers. One of their worldwide, Two why do they crawl? And
- 6:59three the pale by Ilumina's the type ability that they have means that they actually
- 7:06to me either or never sea sign of light that much, or are from
- 7:14underground or whatever that situation is. That's the three things we've got to really
- 7:17look at when you think about pale crawlers. Uh, there's really freaky.
- 7:24But here's a you know, and I mentioned this at the beginning of the
- 7:28show when we were talking to Jessica. Are these things connected to the goblins
- 7:32of old folklore? You know? Or is this a government thing? And
- 7:38and it's worldwide? What do you think, Arry? It's worldwide? That's
- 7:43an interesting thing about it. Wow, wow, you know, I we
- 7:49either explain to me and what I've seen too is that they're pretty much rakes
- 7:55or ghules are pretty much the same thing. Only difference I've seen is sometimes
- 8:01these pale crawlers are described as having mouths, where sometimes rakes say they don't
- 8:05have mouths and noses, but these pale crawlers. But there's still this this
- 8:11ghoul thing, and you know, I yeah, yeah, you know,
- 8:16to make it the way it was described to me. And what I've heard
- 8:20is a correlation between not just these and ghoules and and and these others,
- 8:26but that they're actually what are humanoid humans that have been exposed to a type
- 8:33of a fungus that it's quite similar to I can't say the exact name offer
- 8:37for DCEs, but it's actually called the zombie virus or the zombie the zombie
- 8:43fungus, and it actually is a fungus that affected ants, specifically in the
- 8:48rainforest. And they're saying it's not commutical to humans. But I've heard that
- 8:52there may have been some probably one of these labs or somewhere, some adjustments
- 8:56to where it can be communical to humans, and that that's what these are
- 9:03suffering from. And you know, it was compared to me to the movie
- 9:07Chud that nineteen early eighties movie CHUD, which stood for it's a cheesy movie,
- 9:11but it's stood for a cannibalistic human underground dwellers. And then also what
- 9:18it is supposed to be that these homeless got into this nuclear waste that they
- 9:22were storing underneath the subways, and so it also stood for chemical underground dump
- 9:28as well, and just you know, food for thought again. You know,
- 9:31I don't know a whole lot about this one, but that virus would
- 9:35be, as my understanding, similar to what is also called wedico and that
- 9:41type of virus. And we've got this virus type, this fungus deal that
- 9:45comes from you know, other civilizations or whatever it might be, that can
- 9:50trans can actually go through space immune to cosmic rays. It's a very interesting
- 9:56when we start getting into that, and that takes us into movies like the
- 10:00Body Snatchers, you remember that was a focus. You know, it's just
- 10:03you know, the traditional google was an underground or weller. You know,
- 10:09they dig underground, supposedly, and if you look at the depictions of this,
- 10:16uh, the so called photographs that they've gotten and the descriptions, this
- 10:20sounds definitely like some kind of underground dwelling type thing. And and then you
- 10:26would definitely think about this. If you live underground in caves, you don't
- 10:31ever stand up right that much. You'd be more on all fours going through
- 10:35there. You know. That's that's what struck me is strange about it.
- 10:39Definitely, Yeah, there's got there's definitely a cave connection with these things,
- 10:46and and it makes me kind of question some of the investigations that I've been
- 10:50on as far as the field research goes in investigating people's property that had cryptid
- 10:54crypted activity on it. You know, in the cave up in Tennessee that
- 10:58I talk about lot. Once I got into the cave where the couple thought
- 11:05that their chickens were being taken into this cave, we did find they did
- 11:09find a human footprint beside the chicken coop, but once there was a trail
- 11:13of feathers going up to this cave. But once we got to the opening
- 11:16of that cave, there were no footprints. So I was we only could
- 11:22assume that whatever took it climbed up the wall of that cave because there were
- 11:26no prints at all. Either they went into a portal or they climbed on
- 11:28the wall to get through there. And so something like a pell crawler could
- 11:35have been the culprint potentially, But I mean, they don't look like they
- 11:39eat chickens. They look kind of hungry, you know what I mean.
- 11:43I have a question in both of your opinions, what is last should have
- 11:48seen that chud? The bud That was a terrible The second one was the
- 11:52worst of the first movie. Sorry, that totally threw me off. Both
- 11:56of your Sorry and both of your opinions. What do you think is causing
- 12:01the bioluminescic factor in these creatures? I think it would have to be that
- 12:07underground factor. I think it would definitely be that without a doubt. Man,
- 12:11here's another interesting thing, another interesting facet of that. You get a
- 12:16lot of reports of these caves and stuff like that are very close to a
- 12:20lot of these so called underground military bases. You've got a connection there,
- 12:26you know, And so you think it could possibly be chemical, radioactive as
- 12:31well or factor there. Yeah, And like say, if they were experimenting
- 12:37with these things, like with a super sodure thing or whatever it is that
- 12:41they were doing, you would want that to be one of your factors.
- 12:45Maybe that's some kind of way to trace them. Maybe that's some kind of
- 12:50radiation they've been exposed to. That might be part of the equation as well.
- 12:56You know, you even looking at some of the other I always tend
- 13:01to use entertainment to see what they reveal. And one there is another one
- 13:05that's Living the Night Night of Living Dead that was some type of either a
- 13:09virus or a fungus that was loose. And there's the new show, Oh,
- 13:15Walking Dead. I believe I believe that's not a fundus. That's a
- 13:18virus though I believe that one. But still it until this keeps coming up,
- 13:22this zombie factor and things, and how much time seems to be to
- 13:26not just dark but the Satanic, and it's all connected. You know,
- 13:30it's pretty much sucks. And you know they're being so pale and wide like
- 13:37that they might look a lot more bioluminescent than they really are. Uh in
- 13:43that respect, when you see something that that pale and white, it kind
- 13:48of has a shine of its all, you know what I'm saying, It
- 13:50kind of you know that way, So that might be part of it too,
- 13:54definitely to consider anyway. Yeah, well, you had mentioned in the
- 13:58beginning that they've been spotted all over the world and that's very true. There's
- 14:03actually a map that I found online that was called hell Crawler Sightings Crawler Sightings
- 14:09dot com or something, and uh and and they literally are on every continent
- 14:15all over the world. Which it really makes you wonder because if this was
- 14:20something that our government was creating or whatever, why would they be all over
- 14:22the world unless we put them there or there are other governments working on this
- 14:26as well. And well, I guess we can kind of cover that first,
- 14:31because I've got a ton of questions right now. But you know what,
- 14:35what is what is the phenomenon here? You know? I wish I
- 14:39could remote view this, Okay, I would love to get a target that
- 14:43involves a pell crawler, but what do you want? So, you know,
- 14:46we realized that the government has a big hand encryptios, encrypt pis stuff.
- 14:52We know that that they're very interested in that. And if these were
- 14:56some kind of underground civilization or whatever, they may have already contacted them or
- 15:01may have captured some of them for experimental purposes. But if you see something
- 15:07worldwide like that, Jessicabert, that tells me that this is not just a
- 15:11government thing. This is something that has to do. I think with the
- 15:16subterranean world that we know very little love, I would agree with that definitely.
- 15:22And when it comes to that these quote unquote labs and underground facilities,
- 15:26you know, we've kind of established through the other targets that you've done,
- 15:30the blind Ones, Jessica, that these things go back to past biblical times.
- 15:33Whoever, these these factory, these these installations, they're demonic and they
- 15:37go way way back, you know. You know, so that's so when
- 15:41dealing with that, it doesn't take much of them to do a dispersal almost
- 15:46worldwide, you know. But what's interesting is this another one that this kind
- 15:52of come in a wave too, you know, as a waiver has just
- 15:56been around for how far back do these pale crawlers go as far as just
- 16:00you know, I don't. I've only heard of them recently, so I'm
- 16:07not super familiar with them, but I'm sure that they probably have been around
- 16:10for a while. But we're just now seeing a whole lot of videos of
- 16:14them coming up on social media sites. There's one in particular that really caught
- 16:19my attention, and this is one out of Kentucky. Oops, let me
- 16:22pull this back up. Now, this is just a still shot from this
- 16:26And this is a video. I actually put a link to it. I
- 16:29don't know if the link is working, but it's up in the top of
- 16:30the chat today of the live chat. And this is a thirty three second
- 16:34This is the clip from a thirty three second video of a pale human like
- 16:41figure caught on security cameras and more head Kentucky. Now people are trying to
- 16:45decide, like, is this a person dressed in an outfit? But like
- 16:48the legs and the arms are just way way longer than normal and really skinny,
- 16:55and it looks like it's kind of squatting. Okay, it's squatting down
- 16:59as it walks as doing like a squat walk I guess you could call it
- 17:03or a dunk walk. And it's looking around and it's checking out this car.
- 17:07Some people are saying that it has a face on it, and it's
- 17:12I've spent a lot of time on the ground. If if if I spent
- 17:15a lot of time on the ground, I probably won't lie that too.
- 17:18Uh definitely uh to me. That's an interesting part of it is you don't
- 17:25hear that much of them being on two legs, more of the crawling thing
- 17:29and That's what struck me as strange when I first heard about the pail crawlers.
- 17:32Why the heck are they crawling? And that's the only explanation I can
- 17:36come up with is the fact that they're doing there's some some kind of subterranean
- 17:41type environment that calls them to do that, you know, and the rake
- 17:47the reeks the same thing the reeks. That's why they must be the same
- 17:49thing. The reeks are always described just like them, but also crawling.
- 17:52They're always crawling. You know. In that picture you just showed the foullust
- 17:57type head with the really long just what stuck out to me that didn't look
- 18:02human to me? Not that the head in the it's almost phallic structure there.
- 18:07That's a very very long neck with the extremely strong small head that almost
- 18:12looks reptilian like to me, to be honest, or or snakelike it did.
- 18:17Well, if you look at that, that that's the perfect adaption for
- 18:22crawling or going underground. I mean, if you're going through cave systems,
- 18:26that would be the perfect shape to have. Really, when you think about
- 18:30it, it certainly looks very figurish, right, like a stick. Very
- 18:36I was going to ask you do you think there could be a connection between
- 18:40like an it could be like an extra terrestrial. I guess it's an ulter
- 18:44terrestrial, but it seems like it could have some extraterrestrial origins potentially too.
- 18:49What do you think it could be? No, especially, but it seems
- 18:55more like I tend to agree with Dennis more subterranean. I think that's what
- 19:00it seems to me. But as far as the question there be any reports
- 19:03of these things being cannibals or hostility associated with them? Well, yeah,
- 19:10Well Long Island Bigfoot, who's in a chat who came on my show It's
- 19:12based out radio Sunday night, said that he had been kind of chased down
- 19:18in the woods by one. He was confronted by one, and he said
- 19:19that it was jumping all over the place, like running at him, and
- 19:22it charged at him and it was kind of doing a jumping motion and it
- 19:26was very He said that his life flashed before his eyes, and I'm sure
- 19:32he'll ah, I'm all shared with both are a very interesting sighting that I
- 19:37had that I hadn't given to me by nine witness And this happened I think,
- 19:42outside of Hell, Michigan. And this was very strange. He said
- 19:48that he and his friend were out riding around in their jeep and they were
- 19:52out in the countryside and they came upon a car sitting in the road and
- 19:56the doors were open on it. It looked like, you know, it
- 19:59was an accident or something going on in the cars right in the middle of
- 20:03the road. So he got out. I think he was like an ex
- 20:06police officer or something. And then immediately he got out, he happened to
- 20:10be wearing a sidear him and he had a flash light with him, and
- 20:14they got out to look around the cars of what was going on. They
- 20:17couldn't find anybody. There's nobody around or anything. There wasn't any he said.
- 20:22He didn't see any blood or anything. And what he was it was
- 20:26sort of an ambush because all of a sudden, he said, in the
- 20:29trees off on the side of the road around him, they began to see
- 20:33these figures and they said, maybe there were maybe more than half a dozen
- 20:37of them, and they were all out there behind the trees watching him,
- 20:41and he said, and here's the weird thing. He said, they moved
- 20:45in a static kind of way. In other words, if you looked at
- 20:48him, like for another moment, they'd be a little bit closer. You
- 20:52wouldn't see them actually moved. They'd be a little bit They call that a
- 20:56sort of a static kind of movement. And he said, yeah, he
- 21:00was watching, and they got they were surrounded by these things. This was
- 21:03a trap set for them by these things, supposedly, and said that they
- 21:10backed up slowly and got back in the jeep and took off. That was
- 21:14the way they got away from it. But he said it was a very
- 21:15bizarre incident. And what struck me is strange. They were pale, he
- 21:19described his pale crawlers. What he was describing they looked like. But they
- 21:23were all standing up. I asked him, I said, were any of
- 21:26them actually crawling? You know, they were standing up like people, you
- 21:30know, behind the trees, watching us and moving closer to us, and
- 21:36that's why they took off. You have some weird reports of these things being
- 21:41seen not just crawling around in people's yards, but actually trying to ambush people,
- 21:48or or actually watching people from the woods and places like that. It's
- 21:53almost as they have a weird curiosity about us, or are they up?
- 21:57There's something really no good in that respect. The thing about the traditional ghoul
- 22:03Berry and Jessica, they were once human beings, the traditional ghouls were,
- 22:11uh and you have to wonder if maybe that's something going on with that too,
- 22:15why they're so interested in this and why they seem to be and they're
- 22:19displaying intelligence. I mean, they're not just you know, wandering around aimlessly.
- 22:27You know. I always always get images a lot, and you know,
- 22:32as you described that, you know what I kept seeing. What movie
- 22:34I kept seeing. I believe it's called I Am Legend Will Smith, and
- 22:40you know, when he goes into the city, they've got the humans that
- 22:41have been mutated by whatever that is, and how they were, how they
- 22:47set that trap for him and he strung him up. Remember, it's just
- 22:51very interesting, you know, and I deal with that. Somebody just posted
- 22:55asked if they were once human. That's That's what I've heard too. Ghouls
- 22:57always human, and some they've been either infected with some type of a virus
- 23:02or a fungus that has changed them into that or even the process of satanic
- 23:07doing, you know, blood sacrificing, and I've heard that too. They
- 23:14bring those kind of things up, especially when you open spiritual portals. Uh
- 23:19Arry, definitely without a doubt and no time on what's gonna come through it.
- 23:23And uh, you know there's even a port of Mallman. I'm not
- 23:26gonna get into that today, but there's reports of Mallman actually being seen.
- 23:30Supposed they coming through portals. Whenever you open a doorway, it's just like
- 23:36a door to your house, anything can come in, you know, Dinis
- 23:41do you believe also when they detonated them, you know, the atomic bombs
- 23:45and the things based one hundred molecule that they actually ripped into dimensions and things
- 23:51came through then, I couldn't believe that. Yeah, And here's another thing
- 23:56you know, spent on that. Since we were talking about like they're like
- 23:59may for caves or to subterrania, that could be the kind of dimension they
- 24:03come out of. You know, we don't know what other dimensions made,
- 24:07what kind of environments may may be, and how they are situated. We've
- 24:11never been there to come back and tell anybody about it. And it was
- 24:14big, so hey, that could be that too. They could be coming
- 24:17out some kind of weird other dimension. Well that's normal for them, you
- 24:22know, to look that way and act that way. Well, that's that's
- 24:26something that I always mentioned when I talk about that cave that I went in.
- 24:29As soon as you walk down into the mouth of that cave to the
- 24:30opening, it felt like walking into a whole other dimension, a whole other
- 24:34world. And the things that we were picking up on our SLS cameras,
- 24:38they would not come outside of the cave. They were staying inside the cave.
- 24:41They wouldn't go past that line right there there were, you know,
- 24:45the kinetic cameras that we had. Uh it looked they looked like stick figures,
- 24:48and there was like a giant one and there's little two little people and
- 24:52one giant person whatever it was that was crawling around the cave and stuff.
- 24:56Well, and I have video of this on my Instagram if you guys want
- 25:00to go, and I'm probably on my YouTube too, but you guys can
- 25:03go watch these videos that we have in this cave. But it was literally
- 25:07as though there was a portal right there. And so that's that was another
- 25:12I guess hypothesis, you know, it was like another thing like, well,
- 25:15it could have been going through a portal. That cave was a portal
- 25:18right there. So that's something I experienced firsthand. Well, you know I've
- 25:26mentioned before and one of the regressions I had done, and this was something
- 25:30completely different. In my native state, somebody is having the subsquatch activity and
- 25:36they where they stay as remote in the state, but they have all these
- 25:38caves out there. And it's weird because I had done a reading for them
- 25:42before we did the day before we did the hypnosis, and I kept picking
- 25:45up before they're reading the subsquatch thing, they'd seen one and it's like near
- 25:51their property. But that didn't hardly make sense due to the state we live
- 25:52in. But then I saw I never mentioned it. Then during the regression,
- 25:56this just comes up and they start talking about seeing a sousquatch and about
- 26:00them using these caves that are in that area to train the juveniles to manifest
- 26:07and use their invisibility techniques to learn all that. And it's a cave.
- 26:11I've said that, Yeah, I've said that for many years, that there's
- 26:17that cave connection. Absolutely, uh with a lot of this stuff. Yeah,
- 26:22And they were stating how they don't live in the caves, but they
- 26:26use them for transport and for training grounds, and that to me that definitely,
- 26:32you know, rain true and that some things like that come up when
- 26:33people are in heightened awareness that aren't even into this stuff. And that's a
- 26:37yoga person. They're not into sub squats. So you know, it's just
- 26:41interesting when these things come up. I think it gives a little bit of
- 26:45validation, you know. Yeah, And you know, looking back, looking
- 26:49back at folklore that you know so much as Canadian through the underground. That's
- 26:55where the fairy Kingdom was. That's where a lot of these subterranean cities and
- 26:59supposedly that are lost are are situated. That's the perfect place to hide when
- 27:03you think about it, underground, you know. Oh yeah, And you
- 27:08know Urso had an interesting comment too, and yes there are deep underground military
- 27:12bases absolutely, But since energy plus crystals and magnetic minerals can act if arranged
- 27:18right like a field generator, and that's true, there's a lot of crystals
- 27:22and stuff, and well there's just a lot of quartz anywhere that we have
- 27:26cryptid activity too out in the field. We're seeing vans of quartz wherever that
- 27:32we have you know, portals opening and we have you know, bigfoot activity,
- 27:37lots of minerals, lots of quarts, lots of crystals out there which
- 27:41are conductors I need. There are conductors to open up portals personally. That's
- 27:45back in ancient alchemy, there was a lot of experimentation that went on in
- 27:51crystals because they thought, supposedly you could see of the world through the crystals
- 27:56and stuff. That's an interesting facet too. Oh yeah, robins wondering could
- 28:02they be controlled by AI these pill crawlers. What do y'all think that's the
- 28:10possibility. I mean, that's the possibility that that would be part of maybe
- 28:14the government experiment if we think, like you know, a lot, we've
- 28:18supposed for many years that the government has a big hand in cryptids. They
- 28:22include Sasquatch, dog Man, the rest of them. They would definitely probably
- 28:27institute some tymee. I I gonna tell you this. And we got to
- 28:30remember this when we talk about a government involvement. The government is thirty to
- 28:36forty years ahead of us technological wise, because they only give us what they
- 28:41keep the best off for these elves. So that's like, and I'll illustrate
- 28:47a point right quick. Fifty years ago they had cameras in space that could
- 28:52read a sideline of the newspaper in Moscow. Fifty years ago. What good
- 28:57God knows what they have now you know what I'm saying, And yeah,
- 29:03it would not be that so surprising that if they've got AI, and I
- 29:07believe without doubt they are working with A, it's probably more advanced than anything
- 29:12we've got in the public sector. We A I did have I did have
- 29:18a friend come on the show a while back. Nick Sylvester came on and
- 29:22we were talking about government assets like cryptids being used as government assets for nefarious
- 29:30purposes or for use in our military. And he said that from some insider
- 29:37information he had, and he is a big, big advocate in the truther
- 29:41community, he was saying that it was known or he had been told that
- 29:45the government actually utilizes I think it's like twelve to thirteen different types of cryptids
- 29:51for some nefarious work. And the rakes or the pill crawlers were on that
- 29:56list. And when we were kind of talking about like what could they be
- 30:00used for, it was like, well, they could he be used for
- 30:02kidnapping, Okay, Uh, for surveillance, I think I think Robin or
- 30:06somebody in the Chad said about surveillance potentially, Uh, they're they're different aspects
- 30:11or these things can be very stealthy, you know, where they can get
- 30:15they can get stuff done. However, their controls the I connection control out
- 30:22of the government. Jessica. We all know the government is very good at
- 30:26weaponizing everything. That's their main focus. Take something and weaponize what they do
- 30:33with dolphins and uh and and and et cetera. Uh, that would be
- 30:37my first, definitely choice for that. They would it's a weapon that they
- 30:41would they would want to utilize without that, what do you think, Erry?
- 30:47Yeah? Absolutely, I mean everything now and I think in some ways
- 30:51what we're using the word government is just the same thing to say satanic,
- 30:55just this faction of it. So I mean, anything they're doing is it's
- 31:00definitely ENCRYPTID related, you know. You know, I keep kind of stuck
- 31:03back on the question. The statement come up a little bit ago about the
- 31:08crystals and stuff the generators. I think that's much more accurate and massive than
- 31:15we think. For example, I remember what's her name, the lady that
- 31:19was the dancer. Oh gosh, she's got anyway, she's got a medicine
- 31:26wheel and she stays the place. Shirley McLean. I'm sorry, Shirley McLean.
- 31:30She's got that branch out in what is in New Mexico. Somewhere near
- 31:36the caled Area man mine where all those crystals are blown out, and you
- 31:40know, she talks about all the UFOs that have come over her palace and
- 31:44over her hot tub, and all the stars that are seen it. And
- 31:45they go into the mountain and she says, she starts saying, so Oprah,
- 31:48poor Oprah went out of to her own thing. That people started laughing
- 31:52at her. She said, I think that they use those crystals and focused
- 31:56them somehow. They're either using them or harnessing them or acting them. And
- 32:00you know that will I'll take that a step over to somebody I know that
- 32:04was a mineral and gym collector all their life from the family of that.
- 32:07And they described being at a mine and you know, I want to say
- 32:12it was in North Carolina, they said South Carolina. But it was a
- 32:15mind that specialized in green turmaline, turmaline and black barrel. And when you
- 32:22start looking at that compound, it starts making almost what's one of the few
- 32:25natural quasi crystals on this planet. And this individual described to me being younger
- 32:32and about to pick up a snake on accident. They thought it was a
- 32:37tired and the man that was watching the mind work there, or some got
- 32:42in their mind and said, hey, don't grab that, and they were
- 32:45way down the hill and that's when they realized that. As they got older,
- 32:47they said, I don't think he was exactly human. He just seemed
- 32:51to be this old man that worked there. But you know that shows that
- 32:53I think that they were actually involved exterrestriwise, that look humanoid involved watching that
- 33:00natural quasi crystal in that mind. Because of that, you know, these
- 33:04things go back ancient and I think we can take that as far too to
- 33:07wire. Some cryptis like sasquatch obsessed with mines and caves and there's an interact,
- 33:14there's an inner Earth access there too. I think that's much more valid
- 33:16than people want to admit. Where do soft squatch go when they leave,
- 33:20when they when they disappear? Where do they go? Where I would go?
- 33:25I would go underground definitely. That's the perfect hiding place. And you
- 33:30know you're safer and more secure there as well. That's the perfect place to
- 33:35go. And it makes perfect sense to me. You know, that's what
- 33:39they'll do. It do Yeah, And if you look at like Radall Carlson,
- 33:45what he calls about the catastrophes that happened, especially at the end of
- 33:49the Ice Age, and how it ended with those impacts, anything on the
- 33:53top of the surface got pummeled, so you're gonna have anything that go subterranean
- 33:59was definitely doing it that point. And how many of these things, like
- 34:01what the hopies say about the b people, and you know, these things
- 34:05keep going forward, how much of that is all tied together, and so
- 34:07it's still going to be active down there rather than not the Admiral Bird story
- 34:13is exactly accurate or not, You've got something going on as far as the
- 34:16inner Earth and as far as the catacombs that exist within. Also, you
- 34:21know, there's a lot a lot to be said there. Oh yeah,
- 34:24yeah, I really like this comment right here from Lady J. Homestead says,
- 34:30I noticed they're blocking up caves and government owned forests in a Pennsylvania in
- 34:35Ohio. Now, I have seen plenty of pictures. I've heard this too,
- 34:38and I've seen a lot of pictures of it. Looks like rebar okay,
- 34:44Like gates that are that are you know, put into the openings of
- 34:47caves and stuff, and they say it's for the bats. Okay, It's
- 34:51like to keep people out of these things. What if it's to keep something
- 34:54inside these caves? Okay, they're blocking up these caves. Maybe it's not
- 35:00to let people get in, but to keep things from coming out, maybe
- 35:02like the pill crawlers and stuff. That's that's interesting. I've seen pictures of
- 35:08that. Definitely, they actually build gates and doors over these caves. And
- 35:14why are they doing that? That's an interesting question. Is it to keep
- 35:17something in or to keep something out? I don't know. Caves are not
- 35:25my favorite. I don't. I'm not a fan of caves, really not.
- 35:30I'm not you I have done I have done a little splunking. I
- 35:39won't tell you something I've done a little splunky. Okay, I've been in
- 35:44some timels and you're talking about free You're in a different, completely different environment.
- 35:47It's like going under sea or something. You know, you're in a
- 35:51completely different environment. It's it's really slunk, it's really freaky. And the
- 35:54fact is it's dark, you can't see where you're at. You you're not
- 36:00you're just completely out of your your environment when you're in there, you know,
- 36:06yeah, you know I had to. I used to kind of try
- 36:08to listen. I just try to read some of the journals, but difficult
- 36:14from the Speediologists, and you know, they're a little different than the splunkers.
- 36:19And you know, I was interested in it because there were some of
- 36:22them talking about how they went all underneath nott Shasta looking praying they would find
- 36:28the city under there. There was no such thing. You know. It's
- 36:30stuff like that. You know, when I when I when I asked what
- 36:31I ask people what they say, you don't stand Barry. It's multi dimensional
- 36:35that works. But I'm just saying, you do have people down there crawling
- 36:37around a thing I would never do. They're talking. I mean, some
- 36:40of the stories they have is just unreal. And some of the stuff they
- 36:45discovered down there. I think Spieleeologists would be looked at a little more intensely
- 36:50than they are because it's not the glory work, you know what I mean.
- 36:52But they're the ones that see a lot down there. Yeah. One
- 36:57of my teammates, Craig Craig action Jack Jackson. Okay, Craig Craig has
- 37:00been on the show before, and uh I brought him on to talk about
- 37:05caves and I he is my residant cave expert. He's a spalaeolog spalaeologists scologist,
- 37:13Yes he is. And uh and he always made that distinction between the
- 37:15spaaleologists and the splunkers because he said that hit what he does, he has
- 37:22to go in and rescue the splunkers, okay, because they get stuck and
- 37:24stuff. So he's the one that goes in to like do some rescue with
- 37:28them or for them. But yeah, he's my resident cave expert, even
- 37:32though he says he's not an expert, of course, but he knows more
- 37:36than I do. And uh, and he's got he's got. You have
- 37:38some nerves of still to be able to do that. I don't. I
- 37:43don't know. I just I get claustrophobic. And and as you're walking through
- 37:47caves a lot of the times when there's mud on the ground. This is
- 37:51from my personal experience. When there's mud on that ground, you can't really
- 37:53lift your feet up. It gets really thick. And so if something charges
- 37:58it you from one end of the cave from you know, coming towards you,
- 38:01good luck getting out of there. Okay, even if you take your
- 38:05shoes off, you're gonna have to run. I mean, you might climb
- 38:07on the side of the wall to get out of there. I don't know,
- 38:10because it could be it could be really scary, and it can also
- 38:14be dangerous, very dangerous, very dangerous. Somebody had mentioned ant people earlier.
- 38:20I think that was Brian from Montaka's Strange Ay Brian and might have been
- 38:24him. Uh, but yeah, I don't know. The ant people.
- 38:29Well, I've heard the hope you call them the ant people and the be
- 38:31people. But the same thing. When you had a part where humanity had
- 38:36a great portion, had to seek refuge, refuge in caves, and after
- 38:42a couple of generations they started developing insectoid features, and that's that's what Yeah,
- 38:47that's what said. And that even goes to what they say. I've
- 38:51heard that that story is real and fake, the j Rod story. Jay
- 38:55Rod had said he was the from the future and that there was a kind
- 38:59of clision that happened and they had to go on the ground and he was
- 39:02a result of that generations of that, and he was actually human. So
- 39:07these are things just food for thought, but I think that might actually be
- 39:08the past. Oh yeah, there are a lot of you know, there's
- 39:14a lot of reports, a lot of reports of people seeing things like that.
- 39:17Down in cave systems. I mean that would have to be very freaky
- 39:22looking way down at dark tunnel and have some eyes looking back at you kind
- 39:25of the thing going on. That would have to be definitely very, very
- 39:30bad situation to be in. But there's a lot of reports of that.
- 39:34I've actually seen film of people filming these eyes that they see looking back at
- 39:38them from down and there's a U yeah, yeah, a couple of them.
- 39:45Well it's not just caves two, it's like sewer systems. Yeah,
- 39:52eighties are worried about alligators of the sewer. Remember that terrible I always,
- 40:00uh when I think about it, I always think about that movie The Old
- 40:04People. Remember that, the old movie The Old People. Yeah, you
- 40:09know, it's it makes you kind of kind of really curious though, when
- 40:14dealing with when you start going underground like that, the potential for portals to
- 40:19happen due to the dimensional stress and things. You know, It's it's really
- 40:23interesting and I yeah, I oh, I don't know, a little bit
- 40:28a little bit creepy. I can agree with you. I wouldn't care to
- 40:30be there's too much, you know, but yeah, uh, try to
- 40:36think, Yeah, go ahead. I was thinking some about the humanoids I'd
- 40:38heard about in caves, but I got lost on in schoolhead. I lost
- 40:43the thought. Kretenville has an interesting point, says, I think there could
- 40:45be a connection between caves portals and practictioners of magic. Could explain the affinity
- 40:52for caves. It could. Now here's here's an idea, because Dennis,
- 40:55you and I have talked a lot about demonology and the pot of you know,
- 41:00demons inhabiting bodies of basically empty vessels and stuff too. So could this
- 41:06be could this be something that is demonic? Could these pell crawlers potentially be
- 41:10demonic and they're just sort of some sort of empty shell of a human body,
- 41:15okay that has been worn out and a demon has inhabited it. I
- 41:20mean that is that a potential route that we could be going with these things?
- 41:24Yeah, that's something that's something I considered in the past. Are these
- 41:28lost souls, you know, or or they have been changed that way?
- 41:32Have they been doomed by some type of dark witchcraft or all the dark arts?
- 41:37It's got some kind of connection with that. You know, there are
- 41:42in demonology what are called lurker demons. These demons are called up supposedly from
- 41:47the underworld. There you go, that's where that's where they suppose they come
- 41:51from. And they guard areas they're supposed to guard or watch over areas.
- 41:55They're sort of like your demon servant of kind of kind of things, and
- 42:00they work for you and do these things, and a lot of times they
- 42:04are sometimes described as is looking very much like these pale crawlers that we're talking
- 42:09about. So there is another connection. There is this something brought up from
- 42:15these from the abyss to do things or or have people release these things into
- 42:22our world for a reason. You know that's not good. Did you put
- 42:28the hell hounds in that same category as them, the hell hounds with that
- 42:31as the as the guardians of some of these places. Mm hmmm. Well,
- 42:37they they set these things as guardians like over like you know, if
- 42:40they're there their watchers over their covens or or stuff like that, or they
- 42:45guard the areas where they meet supposedly, or they're used for that. The
- 42:53reason they call them blurkers femans is because they say, they say in the
- 42:59shadows they watch, but when they move, they they exert a force upon
- 43:06you that will very badly affect you. In other words, they can claw
- 43:09you up or whatever it is they do to you. But when they when
- 43:14they are activated against you, you really don't see them until it's too late.
- 43:17Kind of a thing. That's why they call them a workers. Uh.
- 43:21That sounds very much like internet trolls. There's that out there waiting.
- 43:27We right, We've all right into them. But that's that's sort of a
- 43:30good way to describe our lurkert even but they are definitely guardians and enforcers uh
- 43:38in that respect. Yeah. Wow, that's cool, Sae. I've learned
- 43:42something there. Because link only only cryptis creature. I heard doing that with
- 43:45the Hell House. I not heard about these workers like that, So thank
- 43:49you. That's very informative. This is go ahead, and Dennis, we'll
- 43:54get to the comment. Go ahead. Well, I'm just gonna say that
- 44:01if you run into the lurker demons, you will usually run into them around
- 44:06wherever they have their ceremonies and stuff like that, wherever whatever it is they're
- 44:10doing. And I've actually felt I've been in places like that. I've actually
- 44:17went to places where they've had these crminals. I felt something watching me there,
- 44:22definitely without a doubt, you know. And over all, the many
- 44:24years I've been involved in this, I've sort of developed a sixth sense.
- 44:29I could kind of feel it, the hairs on the back of the neck,
- 44:31kind of feeling, you know, you know something is watching you.
- 44:35And I think that's what that basically was kind of a thing. But whether
- 44:40they're connected with pale crawlers, if they really look like that when you see
- 44:45them, maybe I don't know, that's that's a strange connection. But you
- 44:51got to you gotta remember something about all this stuff. When you're dealing with
- 44:54this dark witchcraft and all you're you're dealing with portals, you're dealing with with
- 45:00doorways that you open to these things. You know, there's a there's a
- 45:06place that we got certainly it would be concerned definitely with with with that.
- 45:15Yeah, well there's there's a place that my team we've we've researched a couple
- 45:19of different times. It's called Corpsewood Manor here in northwest Georgia, where there
- 45:22was a lot of Satanic rituals going on there and they still have rituals going
- 45:27on there to this day. It's right there where old Green Ice has been
- 45:30spotted berry your favorite. But but we have reports of like were wolves and
- 45:38dog men and sasquatch and all that up there, and Dennis, like you
- 45:42were saying, when I when I was up there at night, it was
- 45:45a horrible feeling. You just know you're being watched. There's stuff lurking in
- 45:49the shadows. Uh. And the only the only evidence that I actually got
- 45:52were like orbs, like faces and orbs that you know, when I was
- 45:55taking pictures out there. But there was a omnive I'm in the presence,
- 46:00I guess you could call it. I mean, you just felt like you
- 46:01were. It was almost suffocating because there's some there. You can you can
- 46:08feel it, definitely when you go into these areas, you feel that.
- 46:13And uh. And I've often say it's sort of like a spiritual compass going
- 46:15off in you. You know. Uh, it's warning you, uh in
- 46:22that respect. Uh. And definitely if you ever get that feeling, you
- 46:24need to pay attention to it. Folks. Don't don't brush it aside.
- 46:29Pay attention to it because it's a built I think it's a built in natural
- 46:32thing that if something comes against your spirit like that, it's not good.
- 46:38It's sort of a darker entity or whatever name you want to give it.
- 46:43Uh, you better pay attention because it's definitely not out to do you any
- 46:46good. And that's the thing about the pale crawlers that you know there are
- 46:52being in demonology. I know that there are different levels of demonic possession.
- 46:59Uh, there are some I'm so very subtle, you don't even know you're
- 47:01possessed. I was seeing this on my show the other night, that there's
- 47:06a lot of people out there walking around but they asked and they don't even
- 47:09know what that they're boziess. That's that's that's a freaky thing to think about.
- 47:14That's scary, you know. Okay, okay, look, this won't
- 47:17even take us on topic. You just laid right into this. I do
- 47:20want to ask this for a minute, okay, but I don't want I
- 47:22don't want to do a barrier and take us off topic. I'm famous for
- 47:24that. But look this tice right in what you're saying. I was super
- 47:29interested and pressed with something you had said. I was watching one of the
- 47:30shows and you had mentioned when I asked you a question, Dennis, that
- 47:35you had actually met Malachai Martin. And I'm just gonna ask you. You
- 47:38said you met him a few times. Did you do exorcism with him,
- 47:45Okay, Well, uh to me, uh man, I've never made him.
- 47:57I've studied this case for a long time, okay, and to me,
- 48:04it definitely began with the WISI board activity. Okay. But this guy
- 48:07doesn't even remember being possessed. Really, there's he's his very very sketchy memories
- 48:14of this, Okay, And that's really probably a good thing in that respect.
- 48:21But you gotta you remember something with demonology, a lot of this is
- 48:23psychological, and that's the way they work upon you psychologically. You know,
- 48:31that's another factor you got to look at. And and I was listening to
- 48:36an exorcist the other day and he said something very interesting. I completely agree
- 48:40with him that some of the worst cases and places he's been in are mental
- 48:45institutions because of the money takes this mental illness and uses it like a tool.
- 48:51It hides behind it. So you you can't only just be an exorcist
- 48:55anymore. You've got to be a psychologist, you've got to be a medical
- 48:59dogger, you've got to be all these different things to figure out exactly what's
- 49:02going And to me, that makes perfect sense, because that's how very insidious
- 49:08these forces are. They use this stuff and hide behind it. It's sort
- 49:14of like the Hamas over in the in the Middle East. They used hospitals
- 49:17to hide behind. That's not good, but that's the way they work,
- 49:21and that's the way these guys do. They will take any animal, human
- 49:24weakness and use it as a weapon. You know, you know, that's
- 49:30it's interesting and I really, I really like that she took an interest in
- 49:35that that link I had put up with about the deadly hunting, which was
- 49:39this lady named Debbie Moffatt, and that for me, I mean, I
- 49:44try to. I can only get so deep into the negative and evil stuff.
- 49:49But you know, that was one of the most serious cases I've heard
- 49:52of as far as a demonic the demonic presence, and that was the ability
- 49:58to break things just routinely like that, and also the communication they were doing
- 50:02with it, and how it was phyxiated from on her mother in law from
- 50:07another lifetime. It's supposed to be a sacrifice, and it's the people that
- 50:12were supposed to sacrifice her, but this is demonic force. They were sacrifice
- 50:15sacrificing her too. It's followed her for lifetimes. I mean, that was
- 50:20that was and she described the amount of shamans and practitioners she had come in
- 50:24there that could not get rid of that thing, you know, And what
- 50:28do you think about that overall? And again in this case we're talking about
- 50:31somebody knows. It's called the Deadly Hunting by Debbie Muffett n F F I
- 50:37A T. I believe h's a lot of bood letting, the letting of
- 50:43blood and the ceremonies and all that is a very important factor. You know.
- 50:47The blood is a life, you know. And uh, when you
- 50:52when you talk about that and these dark rituals they perform, uh you talk
- 50:57about murder that they committed, the terrible things that they do, and I
- 51:00talked I've talked about this on my show the other night. There is cannibalism
- 51:05involved in this too. Okay, you're talking about. Here's what it is.
- 51:09When they do these things, everything that is taboo is on the table
- 51:15for them, whatever it may be, whether it's sex with your brother or
- 51:19sister or whatever the or murder of your siblings or caunnibalism or whatever it is.
- 51:25That's what they go for because that is it is a basic dark destruction
- 51:30of innocence against the human spirit. That's basically what it is. But you
- 51:36know, I talked to I talked to William Bladdie one time about the Malachi
- 51:45Micome Ardentine, and I didn't get to talk to him very long, but
- 51:50it was over the internet. It wasn't in face to face. But I
- 51:52asked him, I said, what you know about the extorsis when you started
- 51:57writing in all that, he said, let me tell you this. This
- 52:00is the one thing he told me. He said, when I began to
- 52:01write it, I didn't believe. When I got through the book, I
- 52:06was a believer. And that's what this subject will do to you. You
- 52:10know, it opens up different attituess for you in your mind. The deeper
- 52:16you go into it, the more freaky it gets. But that's just the
- 52:21way this subject is. Can I consider let me kind of make a connection
- 52:29here, because we're talking about the satanic kind of aspect of this demonic aspect
- 52:37of this. You know, a lot of these pell crawlers are seen in
- 52:38sewer systems where it's really nasty and dirty and there's you know, extrement down
- 52:44there and it's like the grossest of the gross down there, and that's where
- 52:47they're seen. So wouldn't that give that. I mean, it would kind
- 52:51of be logical to think that these might be demonic in a way if they're
- 52:57hanging out in the sewer down there. Well, of course, the teenage
- 53:00Ninja Turtles hung out in sewers, they live down there, Okay, but
- 53:05uh, but we're not talking about the TMNT Okay, we're talking about the
- 53:08Pale Crawlers today. Okay, But but I would think that that would give
- 53:12them more of a demonic kind of connotation for being down there in those sewers.
- 53:17Well, that's the thing about the Pale Callers just because they look human,
- 53:21they look like it's sort of very human, but yet they're not kind
- 53:24of thing. And uh, you know that that would would be a definitely
- 53:30sort of demonic type tie to that. But uh, you know, even
- 53:35that thing when you think about those places like that words hell supposed to be
- 53:40underground, you're you're I think you're basically talking about some kind of portal stuff
- 53:46going on, you know, And I think there's a connection with these Pale
- 53:50Callers to some type of portal activity, whatever it may be. I'd love
- 53:54to I'd like to know if anybody has ever sighted anything like these around again,
- 54:00Law or rash. It would be interesting to know. That's a good
- 54:04course. Here's a good question. I don't know. I have to ask.
- 54:08I've never I've never come across the pillow crawler, not yet, I
- 54:12mean, but I have. I have seen ets, and you know the
- 54:15way that these things move, I've seen the videos of them. They move.
- 54:19It doesn't look really natural like in human terms. And this is something
- 54:22I talk about a lot. It's like the movement of cryptids and this is
- 54:27no different. Okay, it moves weird. It's got a weird little bounce
- 54:30like long Alan Bigfoot. Mike had said on my show Saturday or Sunday night.
- 54:36It bounced, he said, it bounced around and it had this weird
- 54:39movement to it like that, like that account I mentioned earlier, that static
- 54:45movement like to it's almost as if they're transcending realities or something. They're moving
- 54:52through time and space in a different way. And you know, I've said
- 54:54this many times, Verry Jessica. When you deal with a paranormal, you
- 54:59got to remember something. It may not be in your time in space.
- 55:04It may not be moving in your time in space. In that respect,
- 55:09sometimes there's a time leg too. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's a really
- 55:15good point. And and yeah, it's because we're trying to figure out why
- 55:20why do they move the way they move and they do the things they do
- 55:22or this they're not human Okay, they're not human and they're not animals as
- 55:25we know them. So I mean, I'm a little worried about them being
- 55:30used as government assets and stuff and wondering if they have a connection to some
- 55:34of the missing people that we talk about often. I don't know, I
- 55:42don't know what do y'all think to me, but definitely I believe with that
- 55:47doubt knowing in the government the way they're doing is they definitely have a hand
- 55:52in a lot of this that's going on. We know how Operation Paper Club
- 55:58went and a lot of those things, and that was many years ago,
- 56:01and like I say, they're so far advanced from what they let the public
- 56:06know. I definitely believe, without doubt they have a hand in some of
- 56:09this stuff. What do you think there? I agree? I mean,
- 56:15like I said, I think that you know, for the portion of what
- 56:17we're talking about, government is satanic, there's no way around it. Everything
- 56:22we're seeing right now, from SSP to these scryptids to dog Man being used
- 56:27as what weaponized. I mean, it's all so demonic and that's the basis
- 56:32of what we're dealing with here, and it's a shame that that's the vibration
- 56:36that really is, you know, prevalent on this planet. And it's starting
- 56:42with the people that you know, incarnate like you and I, and they're
- 56:44nothing but demon but they come in here just like you and I, and
- 56:46they seem to be even devoid of the ability to love. I know,
- 56:51you both know we've all met people like that, like they can't love.
- 56:53There's something wrong, you know, and it kind of makes you wonder,
- 56:57but like, you know, what, what what experiences did your soul have
- 57:00before you got here? You know? Uh, you know, but things
- 57:06like that, you know, And we tend to describe it as spiritual whatever
- 57:10energy this is we're talking about, We give it different tags. But like
- 57:16like you said, this, if it's moving through the outties and changing from
- 57:21molecular moment to moment in the way it moves and all, it would definitely
- 57:25look static, I think, you know, it would definitely move in a
- 57:29different kind of way. And uh, that's what you when you think about
- 57:32Pale Carallers I'm thinking about their very unusual and strange way of existence for them.
- 57:40You know, it's just very bizarre. And to me when I think
- 57:45about pale callers, I think about something from some other timeline or dimension or
- 57:51something crossing over into hours. That's what I think about when I think about
- 57:57it. They're being seen a lot right now and I and there's there's no
- 58:02shortage of videos of them on Don Dune Don TikTok okay TikTok Well, I
- 58:13mean it's it's a place to see things, you know that people are posting
- 58:17there. So, uh, you know, I got so sick of hearing
- 58:22about the TikTok ufo about regurgitated tick tack tick tack like the candy that's even
- 58:32better, yeah mistake. Yeah. Well, you know, the majority,
- 58:39the majority of pell crawlers that I've been seeing have the videos are mostly in
- 58:45the Appalachian Mountains too, so I don't know what's going on. I do
- 58:50know what's going on the Appalation Mountains because I researched the other day if there
- 58:55are aliens in the tick tax or whatever and whatever kind of craft, or
- 59:00if they're moving at least tremendous speech going past the laws of physics. You're
- 59:07talking about spiritual beings. They're not physical beings. They couldn't take that,
- 59:12you know what I'm saying, that kind of movement, that kind of physical
- 59:16exertion. To me, you're talking about some other type of an existence beyond
- 59:23what we know. I've been a board craft where some of the beings were
- 59:30about as as corporeal as me, but others were not. They were partials,
- 59:35see through, transparent, And I've seen people all craft that are transparent
- 59:38because they're in dream body, you know, and that shows that they can
- 59:42actually meet us to a certain point. But those people that were in dream
- 59:45body weren't about to throw up like I was during that experience, you know,
- 59:50So seeing how they can actually come from being whatever it is quasi material
- 59:55or wherever it is, to meeting us halfway, but then a lot of
- 1:00:00and won't go. You know. I've described these eggs on these craft and
- 1:00:02these lights that came out and helped me that I realized were actually probably what
- 1:00:06we would call non corporeal command officers, you know. But they're putting in
- 1:00:09my mind they're like fish out of water in our density. But I think
- 1:00:14just in that part of the ship where I'm capable of existing, and these
- 1:00:17even other beings are phased out, you know. I think for them it's
- 1:00:22it's really deadly and they get trapped. They're the ones that are inside these
- 1:00:25tubes. So you're seeing actually a path of coherency to their universe to ours.
- 1:00:32Very interesting stuff, you know, And I realized I was dealing with
- 1:00:35it first. It took me a long time to accept it and figure it
- 1:00:37out, but it is what it is. When we're dealing with beings,
- 1:00:40some that come from not just a different planet or different universe, they're coming
- 1:00:45from consciousness and from also you know, from beyond. But the materialists don't
- 1:00:51want to deal with that. Well, I'm kind of like, you know
- 1:00:55what, you know what I say about energy, it always exists and one
- 1:01:00form or another, but it's going to always exist. You either have a
- 1:01:04physical existence or you may have a what we call spiritual existence. There may
- 1:01:08be different existences of this. And that's the thing about when I, like
- 1:01:13I said about earlier about the pale crawlers, the weird movements they make,
- 1:01:17the way they move, it seems to me like they're moving in some other
- 1:01:21kind of dimension or there that's where they come from, and that's the way
- 1:01:24they move. That makes perfect sense to me too, you know, see
- 1:01:31what's somewhere with Heavy Gravity movie Heavier Gravity. Well, Fellas, we're gonna
- 1:01:37have to do this again one day soon, because this has been a really
- 1:01:39interesting conversation today and we've come to the end of the hour. So I
- 1:01:44want to ask both of you individually your final thoughts on the pill crawlers today.
- 1:01:51Dennis, you go first, What is your final thought? Well,
- 1:01:55I think they're interdimensional type beings of some sort. Where they come from.
- 1:02:00I think they're subterranean in that respect, and whether the government has a hand
- 1:02:05in it would not surprise me to be it with that factor too. But
- 1:02:09I believe they're subterranean, but they may come through portals, underground or whatever
- 1:02:14the situation is. I just don't think they belong here where they're here.
- 1:02:19Nevertheless, well you say there, I agree with that, you know,
- 1:02:23and I think maybe throwing on top of that too, is in what they're
- 1:02:28experimenting. They're doing, they're trying to reproduce these beings, these creatures,
- 1:02:32and are they experimenting on people doing that too? And that's why we're picking
- 1:02:36up both. I think you need to remove you it Jones. You know,
- 1:02:40maybe it's a blind target. I think it would be pretty interesting if
- 1:02:44nothing else the origin of them, you know. Yeah, well, maybe
- 1:02:49maybe you should give me that as a target one day, Barry, you
- 1:02:54know that that would be a great I mean, this would be a great
- 1:02:58target. I mean, just we do, it'd be great to really get
- 1:03:00to the bottom of these cave dwelling encryptis okay, And man, well,
- 1:03:07I I mean I've learned a whole lot today actually by listening to you guys,
- 1:03:10having y'all here, so man, thank you so much. And yeah,
- 1:03:15I want to thank everybody that's here in the chat today. You guys
- 1:03:19are the best. We had a great chat going on. Wonderful people in
- 1:03:22here. And uh yeah, Dennis, do you have a show tonight?
- 1:03:27Right? Would you like to tell the audience about your show and where people
- 1:03:29can find you? Okay, you can reach me and Dennis w Carol dot
- 1:03:34com. That's my website and my show will be on tonight as a matter
- 1:03:37of fact, at nine o'clock pm Eastern Standard Time on Huntingless Shadows. I'm
- 1:03:43gonna be doing Creatures of the Night, a little series of beginning, and
- 1:03:46we'll be talking about trolls tonight, definitely gonna get into that. That's freaky
- 1:03:51stuff too. And then Friday night I'll be doing Paranormal point of View at
- 1:03:57eight o'clock Eastern Standard time, and We're going to get in some interesting stuff
- 1:04:00on that. I do movie reviews on that and some other things too,
- 1:04:04so I stay busy. Oh that's awesome. I love you have the best
- 1:04:10shows, Dennis, So thank you so much for coming on here and sharing
- 1:04:13your knowledge with us today. And Barry, you've got you and I we
- 1:04:15are going to both be speaking at a brand new conference on my calendar,
- 1:04:20the Appellation Star Seed Reunion coming up, so I'm excited to get to see
- 1:04:25you again in person, but very but tell the audience about your your YouTube
- 1:04:29channel too and where they can find anyway, everybody, I'm just sitting here
- 1:04:45thinking, I think we transcended time today. This was a fast hour.
- 1:04:49I don't know, we're wing it was Mosquitos. Probably. You can find
- 1:05:00me on YouTube and also on Patreon and on Facebook. I do a little
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- 1:05:18YouTube as well. Oh my gosh, we're gonna do this again, okay,
- 1:05:21and I think we really did hit this from a lot of different angles
- 1:05:26today with these pale crawlers. So hopefully this helps, Okay, hopefully this
- 1:05:30helps the collective where we can try to start figuring this out, and hopefully
- 1:05:33I'll get this as a remote viewing target in the future and we'll come back
- 1:05:36and revisit it when I do. Okay, all right, Well, everybody,
- 1:05:41please, y'all please come back and hang out with me tomorrow night.
- 1:05:43I will have a remote viewing show at eight pm Eastern tomorrow, and then
- 1:05:45I'll be back this weekend on my channel on Saturday night and on space Out
- 1:05:49Radio on Sunday. All right, well, Barry and Dennis, thank you'all
- 1:05:54so much for being here tonight or for today, I guess today. Thanks
- 1:05:59we're here. That's awesome. Appreciate it absolutely, all right, everybody.
- 1:06:04Well, thanks again for my eight thousand subscribers. Everybody. That is such
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