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Why We Run: The Journey Beyond the Miles · Do Hard Things™ with Siegfried Tiegs

• 0:45
  Speaker 1: I welcome back everybody to another episode of the do our things podcast.
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: I'm JT and I have in studio with me the lovely Angie Patran.
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: Angie, how you doing this morning.
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: Fantastic, I'm here.
• 0:56
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• 1:09
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• 1:13
  Speaker 1: Well, in today's episode we're going to talk about why we run and you should to you probably already are, if you're not, maybe a compelling reason to maybe get after it and good, I guess, talk about how we're going to kind of transition the podcast a little bit, but we'll get into that today.
• 1:32
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• 1:34
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• 4:01
  Speaker 1: All right, that's it for the housekeeping bit.
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: So why we run the drive behind every step?
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: Angie?
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, why do you run?
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: Why do I run?
• 4:15
  Speaker 2: I run because it's not easy and that's it's like my meditation, it's my meditation time, like it's it's when I'm out there.
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: Running it's when I time with myself, time to reflect.
• 4:28
  Speaker 2: I'm solving the world's problems, or at least my world's problems, as I run.
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: You know, running is not easy and I do it because of that and I just love it, like I'm one of those weirdos.
• 4:40
  Speaker 2: I love running.
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a hard thing.
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: It's a hard thing and I like what you said.
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: It's.
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: It's almost meditative In a way.
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: It is because you can get out there and really, while you're pushing, the body like your mind goes into a different place.
• 4:56
  Speaker 1: It's unlike any other activity.
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: I would even say even like I mean, I'm a big cyclist to there's something different about running that demands more of your mind.
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: Your mind goes into a different place, I think, even more than like lifting weights or doing other activities.
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: All good for you, don't get me wrong, but when it comes to mindset, you know there's something I don't know.
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: It's an experience, if you will.
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it goes hand in hand.
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I didn't always love it.
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: I actually hated it up until about five years ago.
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: So I think that's what makes it even more special for me, because I remember every time I go run I always touch point back to you when I hated it and how I felt when I hated it doing it, and I'm just so.
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: It fills me with gratitude and makes me thankful that I love it now and that there's been a mindset, mindset shift.
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just kind of a kind of a big deal.
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: Kind of a big deal to me.
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: So you're a light bloomer when it comes to running.
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, yeah, I did, I hated.
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: I remember being in kindergarten having to run the mile, or an elementary school, you know we each time and I hated it like I dreaded it.
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: I hated it and I've always hated it up until, like I said recently and it wasn't, it was I just, I was training.
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: One of my friends invited me on a ragnar race and I didn't want to die and I remember you know my goal not to die.
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but my goal is to not die.
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like, hey, do you?
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: And she described it and I was like that sounds terrifying.
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: And yes, I'm going to do it.
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: And then I started training for it.
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: And you know, I hated it training for it.
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: And then one day I was like, well, this isn't so bad.
• 6:43
  Speaker 2: And then the next day I was like, well, you know, this really isn't that bad.
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: And then, I don't know what it's, some switch flipped and I was like, wow, I'm, I'm digging this, I love it.
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: And then, if I missed a training day, I was like, man, I really I need to get out there and run.
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I just what was your first event?
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: A Ragnar trail or the?
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: Ragnar, the bourbon chase, ragnar road.
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: Okay for those that might not be familiar with Ragnar, ragnar is a team of Event.
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: They have two different types.
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: They have the trail and then they have the what's, the other one so there's road, trail and sprint.
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: Road, trail and sprint.
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: I've done, you have, I have not.
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was gonna say, yeah, me either.
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: I have not done a sprint yet.
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: The trail.
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: You basically set up camp and you're with eight runners.
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: You basically do relay.
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: Everyone runs like three loops, typically the road.
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: You get Cram up in a van and it's like point-to-point.
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: So it might be a 200 mile route and then you switch out runners.
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: That one is far more challenging and and that's how it so, that's how you were introduced to it and your goal is die.
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my goal, I did.
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: I survived and it and I had so much fun doing it and you know it's funny because I'll try to get Rudy to come do the thing with me and he was like I.
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: That does not sound fun being Crammed in a van for 36 hours with six other or five other people, because on on the Ragnar road race it's a team of 12 and six are the first vehicle and six are in the second and you're in the vehicle with these people, the from start to finish and that could take anywhere, depending on how fast your team is.
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: You know it could take anywhere from 20 something to 30 something hours and I think we finished in like 34 or something like that.
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it was just.
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: It was the best.
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, best.
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: No, the Ragnar's are really cool, and so what?
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: So what was it about that that you're like you know what I want to keep doing this like I.
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: I no longer Like when you went, when you got back home and the high of the run, dude, when I got back home I signed up for my first half, like that.
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: That same night.
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: I got home I was like, um, well, you know, on the race they were telling me how the Bass Pro half in Springfield is, like if you're gonna do a half marathon, that should be the one.
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: And it was coming up in a couple weeks, like literally well, maybe in a month.
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: And um, I was, they don't like, how shall?
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: I was like I'm gonna try this.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: And so I signed up for the Bass Pro half that night and went and ran the Bass Pro half and it was.
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: It was great, but nice.
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what was your original question?
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: What?
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: was it about?
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was thinking that you know usually that what you know when you come off the high of of running a big event like that and then you're like get back into the adult rooms of doing the day to day Routine, how did you go from like I hate this, I'm gonna die, to start doing this all the time?
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: I never came off the high.
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: I still have it like I get excited thinking about running.
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: I mean I just yeah.
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: I mean you.
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: You have those days where you're like, oh gosh, I'm so tired I don't want to drag myself out of bed, or oh my gosh, the weather's so horrible, or whatever, but it's still exciting to me, like Okay.
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: So for those that are runners, because you can probably empathize with this, angie is one of the freaks.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: I know I hate people, no matter what they get excited about running.
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: I've been running for 35 years and I rarely get super pumped up and excited about going for a run.
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: I just do it.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I, I get really excited like I don't get, like, oh gosh, I can't wait, I can't, that is me, that is so that that is me.
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, I can't wait.
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: I'm yeah, but I do surround myself with people like that because it helps me when I'm really feeling like not running.
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: They don't want to throw a punch them because they're all chipper and excited about it in the first mile.
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I just wonder.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: Just I need to work off me and we get into it, then it's all good.
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but you know it's funny, jay, because I wasn't.
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: I wasn't a team runner until kovid.
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: So, like a group runner, I always trained alone.
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: Um, even with when me and Rudy run, we start together but we run opposite and we pass each other in high five, like we generally don't train together, and that's just how I've always operated.
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: And then, during kovid, I started, uh, showing up to group runs, uh, socially distanced, of course, but group runs and that's, um, that was my intro to group running and I found out, hey, that's pretty cool, I can you know, once you find someone that matches your pace and all that, um, the time goes by a lot faster and uh, even people that don't like people, you know people that aren't people, people, uh, you might like group, try group running, try it, get somebody, get matched up with somebody with your pace and, um, somebody that wants to have conversation and sometimes you can just talk those miles away and before you know it, you've done you know three, five, 10, 15, 20 miles and you're like yes, yeah, no, I definitely.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: I definitely appreciate the uh, the group runs, because, like I said, it's just not a natural thing for me to be like really excited about going for a run.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: So having accountability has really always been critical for me, and I mean I was in the army for 27 years.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: We always had groups of people to run with.
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: There was no shortage of that.
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: Um, I love the fact that Lacey and I run together.
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: We train together like all the time, like we're and she's.
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: We're fairly similar in our, in our speeds, at least right now, which is super cool.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: We're doing more like longer distance.
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: So it's been.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: It's a time for for us to bond and have conversation.
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: There are times that she probably wants to throw up punch me because I'm not always the most chipper, especially the.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: We do the when we're up in Columbia.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: We do the 530.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: Tuesday and Thursday morning runs.
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: I am, I struggle in the mornings.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: I don't wake up like just happy and beaming with energy sometimes and it takes me a little bit to get going.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: The hardest part is getting the shoes and getting up out of bed and then probably like it takes me about a mile to get into it before I start to kind of loosen up and kind of lighten up a little bit.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: So it takes me a bit, but but that's that's.
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: That's it's fun, it's.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: One of our favorite things to do together is is to go for run together.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I love it.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: I mean that's.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: That's ultimately why I went and got certified.
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: I got certified in level one USA track and field level one run coach and Road Runner Club of America level one Run coach.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: So that's awesome.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah Well, my story with running started and I've talked about this before in the podcast, but it started when I was roughly around, let's say about I was in ninth grade.
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: So what age are you in ninth grade?
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: 14, 13?
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: Well, ninth grade at yeah, 14.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like 13, 14.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I was a, I was a paper boy.
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: I was a paper boy in Clarksville, missouri.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: Clarksville is a small town just north of St Louis, on the river, about a little over an hour Small town.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: There's probably I don't know maybe 600 people in town.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: Clarksville is known for having the highest point overlooking the, the Mississippi River.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: They've got a sky lift that used to take people to the top and it had like Santa's workshop and and our claim to fame was the Eagle days.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: People would go up there on the river to watch the overlook up there, to watch the Eagles come in.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: Small, quaint little town.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: It's been flooded a few times that you know.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: They don't even have the sky lift anymore, it's not.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: It's kind of sad that it's not an operation mark.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: It was a cool thing to do.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: Anyway, I rode my bike every day, six days a week, slinging newspapers, and I did this because my family was poor.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: We didn't have much.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: I'd slow in the newspaper so I could buy myself my school clothes and maybe a Nintendo game the old cartridges you have to blow on, get it to work.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: I would ride my bike, I'd go to school and I'd come home in the afternoon, I'd you know I took about 90 minutes to do the route, maybe two hours, and I did that every single day.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: I started that.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, when I?
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: I probably started that like when I was 11.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow, I had different bikes.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: I had banana seat bikes, I had like two bikes and all sorts of bikes.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: I had a collection of bikes and.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: But I rode my bike around town and I have to climb that hill every fricking day to the top.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: I'd be getting chased by dogs, and here in Missouri we have all four seasons, so be the heat of summer snow.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: If it was really really snowy, I might be able to get my parents to maybe, you know, drive me.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: But more often than not I was riding that fricking bike six days a week and Saturday mornings, so it was like after school and then Saturday mornings I got really good cardio.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: I didn't even realize, like, how fit that I was as a kid.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Anyway, I had a kind of a troubled upbringing, didn't have a whole lot.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: The paper route was great because it got me out of the house.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: It's money to buy some stuff that I needed.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: But I had a cross country coach.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: He was new.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: He was a new teacher that moved into the apartment.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: He just graduated college.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: He was a Catholic in college and he became the cross country and track coach for school at Clopton I because I delivered a newspaper with him.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I kind of talked to him here or there and he took some interest in me being a teacher and he invited me.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: He knew some of my, my trouble and whatnot, but he also knew I was pretty fit.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: He just invited me.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: He's trying to put the cross country team together and he invited me to cross country.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like what the hell?
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: What the hell is cross country?
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: He's like well, we used to have a team of kids, you know, and we go to the school.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: We typically run in a field and we're running in a field.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: What the hell are you talking about?
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I don't have a way to get back and forth from school because our school we were very rural so it was like a 30 minute drive, 25 minute drive to get to the school and I didn't have a way to get home.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: He's like if you can get to school, you ride the bus to school, I'll bring you home.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll try it.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: And I think I showed up my first practice had my, my Reebok basketball shoes and I had the pumps that was.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Those were the thing back in the day.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I saved up enough money on the paper out to pump them up.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember, though that's what.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I had the Reebok pumps, like basketball shoes, and I actually did really good.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: The team was actually pretty good.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: We had a pretty good team.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: They were, like, you know, conference district champs go to state, and I was able to keep up.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I was, I was like runner number three, and I liked it so much.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: It was the first time that I was part of a team.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I did something difficult.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Some of the cooler kids in school were were there.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like man maybe I can, you know, want to be like them.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: They kind of inspired me and so I liked it, and the coach was going to bring it back, so I ultimately, you know, got myself some.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I think I bought myself some running shoes, my paper up money, mowing money, and I started.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I started going and for the first time in my life, I felt like, you know, someone was looking out for me as part of a team.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: It was a hard thing to do.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: It kind of motivated me to keep my grades up and we had a really good team Like we had, like we we would run.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: So we were like all conference, all district, we went to state and it was just really really good for me mentally, physically, I felt inspired and motivated for the first time in my life because of that environment that I was in.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I was, I was around other high caliber people that I felt like I was being pushed outside of my comfort zone for the first time.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I always had a drive to work, but it was like I had a, I had a channel for that, I had like a focus and it was just really good for me in so many ways and that led me to, you know, getting out of the situation that I was in.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, if I can join the military, you know, then I can kind of maybe, you know, just just take it, take my life in a, in a, in a direction that was positive and that's what I did.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And then, just being in the military, you know that that that the cross country enabled me to keep my grades up enough, it motivated me and inspired me enough to make that bridge into the military.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: And then the military, you know, it's part of your day to day routine and that that having that, having that discipline, enabled the transition into the military to flow really well and I've been running ever since.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: It's like a because of that mindset and maybe that just a way to de-stress.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: It's like I, I, I equivalent, I, I running to me is like the equivalent of like success, like I have to do this like a handrail for me, like I've got to continue to do that, to keep my mind and body and check and and and I don't know it.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: It's really really deep for me, much more than I ever really realized.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Like maybe I think I've probably taken it for granted over the years, but doing that hard thing every day has been very therapeutic for me and it's, it's a, it's just part of my lifestyle and it's awesome.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I can relate.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: So I started young and and I ultimately became a certified coach.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I'm VDOT, I'm a R R R RCA level one, I'm a pose method running coach, and I got those certifications to help other soldiers in the army that were struggling with running and I also wanted to.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I've had some injuries over the years.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I've kind of I'm Clydesdale, I'm over 200 pounds, I'm a big runner, I'm I'm unusually fast for as big as I am.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: But I wanted to, you know, help myself and others learn how to mitigate running injuries and love running, to do it consistently for the long haul, because I know how good it is for your mind and and your body.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Right, I still haven't cracked the code to loving it and getting excited about it like you, but it is part of, like, the daily routine, the discipline.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: So that's that's where I'm at with running.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: And you still like it enough to do it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you hated it you wouldn't get up every day.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I like it enough to do it yeah.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I just don't get like, cause I can't wait.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, you know what I'm saying.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I was like she's like just, ah, running, yeah, and I'm like I wish I could get that excited about it, but I do.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: My days are infinitely better when I get up and run or you go lift weights.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: But there's something different about the running.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Like if I'm in foul mood, you know Lacey might tell me you know what you need to go run like get the hell away from me.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I'm about to throw a punch.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: You go for a run, just get it out of your, get the shit out of you.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Whatever's going on, you can still get it out, and running does that for you.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: And if you want to change your emotional you know we talk about mindset all the time and if you want to, you change your physiology taking a cold shower, going to the gym, going for a run, like if you want to change your mood, you want to change your emotional state, go for a run, because it it will do that for you.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: There's something about get your heart rate up and, like said, it gets the mind working properly.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and there's they do there's days that I've went out there that I just didn't.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I knew, because of whatever my schedule was for the day, I didn't have time to run a certain.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Just like you know, usually I've got, I got in my training to where I wouldn't even think about going out for a run if I didn't have time to run at least a 5k or 4 miles or some job.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I think at one point it was six miles, but I had to Tell myself, dude, just go for one mile.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: And so I started just doing one mile, you know, and felt infinitely better afterward.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something about it, and you know, also for me, because I was obese, like morbidly obese, for so long, and I couldn't Physically couldn't, I couldn't barely walk a quarter of a mile.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: You know, I it's just those.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: If you're a person out there who couldn't physically run and now you can run don't ever, don't ever lose sight of how you felt when you couldn't do it, when you weren't Physically able to, and always just try to go back to that, even on the days that you don't want to get out there and run, and it'll make you just feel that much better.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely Something I think about.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I've noticed this has.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I've been like streaming on there like kind of going through well, talking to runners and then Looking even on social media there, especially for new runners.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: New runners can feel really incredibly discouraged about running and they get.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: They might get frustrated because they can only run a couple minutes and they got a walk and they don't think they're a runner.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: And then they all the other fast people are judging me and they're they're reluctant to go to group runs.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like the running community is probably the one of the most welcoming communities I have ever met and you know a six minute mile is it's the same distance as a 12 minute mile.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Generally most people do not care what you run as long as you're there.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: We'd rather have you there.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: No one cares, that's right.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I've gotten into more endurance distance like you can walk during your runs.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: It's no big deal.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I don't even think twice about it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Run and you're still a runner you know, and that's funny because when I started running intervals, right.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: So when I learned about intervals and started running them, you know the military teaches you if you, if you're walking at all, you're not running.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: And I was not in the military, but I've been around the military long enough and I know enough military people that you are taught if you have to walk, you're not running, and that is such BS.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: And so when I started running intervals, you know I would try to get Rudy to run intervals with me and he's like that's not running.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: And he wasn't saying it to me like you're not a runner.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: He was saying it to himself, like no, I have to run.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: And finally I convinced him to do intervals with me and now he's like I don't know why I fought this for so long.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I wish I'd not fought this, because this is the best ever.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: You're still a runner if you, if you stop, and if you, if you walk a little bit, guess what?
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: You're still a runner.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you're not a runner.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you're a walker.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: It means you're a runner.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: It just means that your recovery time is going to be infinitely that much faster and you're gonna be able to go longer.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely Absolutely.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: So all that stuff is nonsensical, yeah, and I think I think the big take away because we're button up on time here, but the takeaway and the direction that we're going to take, the podcast, as I've really started to think about you know, what is the do hard things brand?
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: What are we doing here?
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at Angie's like background and in my own background I'm like you know what we live a lifestyle.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Well, we're doing hard things all the time.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Almost everyone that we're nominating is you know that we bring on the weekly spotlight is running.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Nearly almost all of our community is runners or ruckers or cyclists or endurance athletes.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Running is a low hanging fruit that that most people can do and it goes hand-in-hand with mindset.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna take the do hard things podcast and we're gonna incorporate a little bit more running.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Angie and I are both running coaches, so we're gonna start to incorporate the mindset training with running tips and advice, bringing on some more guests still with that within the do hard things framework of of health and wellness, affluence and wealth, relationships and in development.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: And maybe, you know, bring in people with those topics who are runners or endurance athletes in general and, and kind of you know, create a community of of runners and endurance athletes with a growth mindset and kind of merge the two together and I think and use our you know, like Angie and I have a lot of experience and in running coaching to kind of merge them together to help people run better and then help them with their mindset.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: It just seems like it's a Natural progression and the do our things brain, like we're already hosting one event per year.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: We're gonna add some more stuff to the calendar, so that's where we're gonna go, that's we're gonna take it, and so, pretty excited about the idea of merging, I mean just doing what we're already doing, just kind of highlighting more of the running and using, you know, our knowledge and background and that's talk about more of that.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably do some episodes and shows, or we're talking a little bit more about the runs that we're on and what we're doing.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: So I think you're muted on tiktok.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: How am I muted on tiktok?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: That ain't cool.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I Don't know how to undo that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on there.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: My new iPhone, I don't know.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Good morning Tamara.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Hey, good morning Jeff.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: All those that are watching Monday to y'all.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: All right, it's six.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: We only got a few minutes left, so you want to.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Is there any final thoughts on the topic of running before we switch to our weekly Spotlight?
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: No, just you know.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Let me circle back really really quick to new runners.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: If you're a new runner, get out of your head.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Come join group runs.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Are there going to be A-holes in every group?
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, of course.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: But guess what?
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Generally in the running community, runners are freaking awesome.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: They accept you.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: They are too busy worrying about their own, their own, trying not to die to judge you.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: And if you're a new runner or you feel like you're a slow runner, listen, it's you against you, it's not you against everyone else.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I promise you, unless you're like a super competitive, like just you're only running to win, well, that's on you.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: But generally, I'm telling you, it's you against you.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Show up, put one foot in front of the other and it's consistency and just doing it and you're a runner.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I promise you, if you show up and you run, even if you have to walk, you're still a runner.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: They'll come out and find someone to run with or get out there and do it yourself.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Throw those tunes on, throw an audiobook on, but just the important thing is that you get out there and move your body.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: If you're in your head you're dead.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Tony Robbins, place your listening, remind me of that.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I get into my head.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I need to go run, get that cloudiness, whatever that is, that fog, break that stuff up, but love it, Go run, run more, it's good.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: It's good for the mind set.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: All right, can you see my screen?
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I can.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Awesome.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: All right, my favorite time of the week.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Andrew Chavez.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Andrew, your wife nominated you for being such an awesome human being and we're going to send you a Do Our Things shirt.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Andrew is a true inspiration when it comes to doing hard things.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Not only is he an amazing husband and friend, but as a non-commissioned officer in the United States Army, he goes the extra mile supporting his fellow soldiers, whether it's pushing himself past his mental capability or lending a helping hand to those falling behind.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: He embodies the spirit of leave no soldier behind.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: After he finishes his rucks and miles, he turns around and goes back for the last person to run with them, to motivate and push them to the finish line.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: That's true leadership, and his selflessness and determination make him a perfect candidate for the Do-Hard-Things Nation nomination.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: He consistently steps out of his comfort zone to support others and deserves to be recognized for his unwavering commitment.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Andrew, we appreciate you.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: We appreciate you leading from the front and being selfless, and your awesome wife has nominated you, and we appreciate you.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: We're going to send you a Do-Hard-Things shirt for embodying what it means to be a leader and doing hard things, demonstrating that.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: We just ask you to continue to encourage others and lead from the front.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: We appreciate that.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, I want to tell you how important it is that you go back for that last person.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: That's one of the first things I remember showing up to a group run.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I was the slowest person there and I didn't really know anyone.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget another Drew, andrew.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Another Drew came back for me.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I was the last one and he would never say he would just be like, hey, how are you doing?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Then we'd just run in what you're doing when you go back for that last person, I don't know if anyone has ever really really told you how much it's appreciated, or maybe they just you just kind of see it and know it.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: But, dude, keep doing it.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for going back for those back of the Packers or the last ones that are trying to push through, because you are probably the reason a lot of them have kept going and finished.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Bravo, thank you.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: As a race timer I did some professional race timing for a bit.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I was one of those.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I never stuck around.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I never stuck around when I was running to wait for the people in the back.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many places to be.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I have things to do.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: But when it became a race timer seeing the whole race come through the finish, the very end when all the crowds are gone and the people coming through because it might be someone running their first 5K or they've beaten cancer or I think of David Barnes, who lost his legs deployed fighting for our country and he did the Frog Hill 5K.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: He came in like I don't know.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: It was like way late, the sun was down, we had cars out there with the headlights and he had new legs and he came across the line.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: So freaking inspirational.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Just everyone that participates is a runner and it doesn't matter what your pace is and it's just awesome.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I just encourage people to wait around a little longer to be inspired and support the entire community.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: That's right, Because it can feel a little lonely back there in the back sometimes.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yep, but that's where the most inspiration is to me.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but hey, thank you, mr Chavez.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, thank you sir.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's it Time to go kick ass this Monday Time to go spread the smiles.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Hey, listen, listen, listen, Linda, go out and make somebody smile today, Do it Smile at somebody it's smile while you run.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I had a telling commander who was a Boston Marathon runner and that was he was fast.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: He was like you know what, when you're running, make sure you smile, because it dishevels your competition.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Because I think you're crazy.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: You're like they're hurting and suffering and you're smiling, but it forces them to smile and it makes the run more enjoyable.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: So when you're trying yourself struggling, make yourself smile too.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Put a smile on your face.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: It makes all the difference.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Have a kick ass day.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Keep doing hard things.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: We'll see you guys in the next episode.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Peace.