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I Took a Break..Now Let's Talk About Everything · Two Personal with Joy Taylor

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  Speaker 1: If a man used a coupon on a date, how
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  Speaker 1: would you feel about that. Just because you have an
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  Speaker 1: audience doesn't mean that you're qualified for every opportunity that
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  Speaker 1: has an audience. Could you be friends with someone who
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  Speaker 1: supports President Trump? Don't take jobs you're not qualified for.
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  Speaker 1: If people are not creating babies, then there are no
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  Speaker 1: workers to then go.
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  Speaker 2: Do the tasks for the elites.
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  Speaker 1: Some of you are on the red carpet looking crazy,
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  Speaker 1: looking unqualified, looking ignorance, looking like you don't know who
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  Speaker 1: baby faces. Okay, hey guys, welcome to season three of
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  Speaker 1: two Personal. I'm Joy Taylor. If it's your first time here, welcome.
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  Speaker 1: If you're returning, thank you so much. We've had a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a break. I appreciate everyone who came
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  Speaker 1: back to check us out and the newcome. Well. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so excited for this season. It's been quite quite a
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  Speaker 1: few months off. We had a really great season last year,
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  Speaker 1: lots of fun guests, a lot of good times and
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  Speaker 1: great conversations.
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  Speaker 2: And this year is going to be a little bit different.
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  Speaker 1: As you can see, we have a new set, so
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  Speaker 1: we've changed studios. We're going to be doing some stuff
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  Speaker 1: remotely We're going to be doing stuff all over the world,
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of different guests this year, a lot more
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  Speaker 1: integrated from you guys, the viewers and listeners.
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  Speaker 2: So I definitely want to hear from you.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be doing some lives, maybe even some in person stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm just really excited to be back. It's been
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  Speaker 1: a real journey over the past couple months. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot that's happened. Really did a lot of traveling, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been keeping up with I've been to
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  Speaker 1: a couple different countries, had an amazing birthday, had an
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  Speaker 1: amazing start to the year because I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you saw, but the Miami Hurricanes had had quite a run.
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  Speaker 1: So I was able to spend a lot of time
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  Speaker 1: with my family and follow that team, which was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't end how we wanted, but still a very
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  Speaker 1: storybook run. I've got to spend a lot of time
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  Speaker 1: with my family, a lot of friends. We've got new babies,
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  Speaker 1: new babies on the way. There's a lot happening personally
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  Speaker 1: for me, so I'm really excited to be back. On
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  Speaker 1: the other side of that, there's also a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things that are happening around the world. Some things that
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  Speaker 1: I didn't weigh in on yet.
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  Speaker 2: The war.
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  Speaker 1: That's happening, the Epstein files that happened, I guess it's
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  Speaker 1: still happening, the oscars. What else have we talked about?
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  Speaker 1: The bad money at the Super Bowl? We have concentration
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  Speaker 1: camps now. There's just there's a lot that's happened over
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  Speaker 1: the past couple months that we didn't touch on because
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  Speaker 1: we were not doing episodes. A lot of that is
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  Speaker 1: still unfolding, so I'm sure we'll get to it throughout
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  Speaker 1: the season.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, there's.
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  Speaker 1: Still the ongoing gender wars and relationship conversations.
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  Speaker 2: I actually saw on threads this week. If you're not
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  Speaker 2: following me on Threads, go follow at Joey Taylor talks.
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  Speaker 1: I saw on Threads this week another question about dating,
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  Speaker 1: like if a man used a coupon on a date,
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  Speaker 1: how would you feel about that? Free us, Free us
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  Speaker 1: from these conversations, the shackles of these conversations. I thought
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  Speaker 1: we were done with this real The world is ending, guys.
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  Speaker 1: We don't need to keep talking about this shit like
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  Speaker 1: it's a coupon save your money. Okay, we don't know,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know when you're gonna need.
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  Speaker 2: That extra cash.
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  Speaker 1: Use that group on honey, It's so crazy. Anyway, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot that we that we missed, but we're excited
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  Speaker 1: to get into it this year, this particular episode being
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  Speaker 1: episode one, I'm not gonna have a guest on. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna get into a couple of the different topics that
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  Speaker 1: I've been wanting to talk about this week. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: every week we'll have our rants and we will have
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  Speaker 1: guests and a lot of other features we're bringing back,
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  Speaker 1: never too personal. So we still want to hear from
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  Speaker 1: you guys, advice, stories, questions, all of that. So make
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  Speaker 1: sure that you like, share, follow, and subscribe if you
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  Speaker 1: haven't already done that.
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  Speaker 2: And give us your stories as well, and let me
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  Speaker 2: know how you want to interact, because I was thinking
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  Speaker 2: maybe we would do Should I get on Reddit? Do
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  Speaker 2: you like a Reddit feed? Is too far?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, But I do want to talk to
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  Speaker 1: you guys and hang out, so let me know how
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  Speaker 1: you want to do that as well.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a lot going on this week.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of conversations that have been going on
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  Speaker 1: for the past couple of weeks, and I was trying
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  Speaker 1: to decide what I wanted to talk about today.
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  Speaker 2: And one of the things that I really feel.
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  Speaker 1: Very strongly about and has have had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: conversations about over the years, and this has come back
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  Speaker 1: again because of the oscars, and it's been an ongoing
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  Speaker 1: conversation online and just within the business, which is this
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  Speaker 1: journalists versus creator conversation. Do creators, you know, belong on
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  Speaker 1: the red carpets? Do they belong in spaces that traditional
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  Speaker 1: journalists have existed in? And there's a lot of opinions
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  Speaker 1: flying around about this. I think I personally am a
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  Speaker 1: pretty qualified person to give my opinion on this, being
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  Speaker 1: a creator and being trained as a traditional journalist and
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  Speaker 1: working my entire career in the opinion space. So I've
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  Speaker 1: touched on all these things at a very high level.
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  Speaker 1: I went to school for broadcast journalism. I graduated with
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  Speaker 1: honors from a private university, a school that I sit
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  Speaker 1: on the board of trustees on now, so I have
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  Speaker 1: all those qualifications. I've also worked in the creator space
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  Speaker 1: for a very long time. I've worked in the digital
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  Speaker 1: space for a very long time. My opinion on this
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  Speaker 1: is pretty simple. Don't take jobs you're not qualified for,
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  Speaker 1: and if you're going to take a job you're not
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  Speaker 1: qualified for, do the work so that you at least
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  Speaker 1: appear competence, and if you are struggling, be honest with
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  Speaker 1: the audience about that. There's no reason that creators shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be in those traditional journalists spaces. They're going to be
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  Speaker 1: in those spaces. The world has changed. Traditional journalism still
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  Speaker 1: has a very very important place in the business in media,
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  Speaker 1: and it's very necessary. But when we're talking about the
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  Speaker 1: shifting media landscape and creator getting these huge jobs and
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  Speaker 1: these huge opportunities, it's because they've built online communities and
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  Speaker 1: those businesses, those spaces. They want to use those creators
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  Speaker 1: to bring their audience to these spaces. They want to
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  Speaker 1: target different audiences, they want to target young people, they
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  Speaker 1: want to expand the reach of their production. So let's
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  Speaker 1: just use the oscars for example. And the reason that
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  Speaker 1: this has become controversial is because obviously there have been
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  Speaker 1: some creators who have been given these opportunities who have
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  Speaker 1: quite frankly bombed. They have been embarrassing. They have not
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  Speaker 1: known who particular artists or particular actors or directors were.
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  Speaker 1: They were clearly not researched. They were clearly not people
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  Speaker 1: who were qualified to be in live spaces, and they
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  Speaker 1: didn't really respect the opportunity that they were given. That
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they should never be in those spaces,
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  Speaker 1: but I do think that from my career perspective and
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  Speaker 1: the things that I've done throughout almost twenty years, there's
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  Speaker 1: been opportunities that I've turned down because I wasn't qualified
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  Speaker 1: for it that were offered to me, and I was like, look,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really know this space very well. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to do a very good job. I will do it,
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  Speaker 1: I can do it, but I'm sure that there's someone
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  Speaker 1: better for this opportunity. Now, obviously I was far enough
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  Speaker 1: in my career that turned that down. That opportunity didn't
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  Speaker 1: change my life. But if you are of a mindset
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  Speaker 1: that every opportunity is for you, you're going to take
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  Speaker 1: that job, and I probably would have end up embarrassing
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  Speaker 1: myself and to me the long term, the long term
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  Speaker 1: success of my career was more important than that one
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  Speaker 1: job in that one moment. I've also turned down huge
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  Speaker 1: opportunities because those opportunities were going to hurt someone that
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  Speaker 1: I cared about, like it was going to affect their career,
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  Speaker 1: So I can speak from a space of absolute experience
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to this, and I've been in situations
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  Speaker 1: where it was my first time and I didn't really
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  Speaker 1: do a very good job. I didn't have all of
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  Speaker 1: the tools given to me, and I wasn't experienced enough
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  Speaker 1: to really do the level of job that I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do. That's all those things have happened to me.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that I quit. It doesn't mean that
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  Speaker 1: I didn't deserve that opportunity. But I do think that
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  Speaker 1: you should respect an opportunity that you're given if you're
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  Speaker 1: not qualified for it, which a creator is not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: qualified to do a live red carpet show. Just because
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  Speaker 1: you have an audience doesn't mean that you're qualified for
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  Speaker 1: every opportunity that has an audience. So if you're given
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  Speaker 1: that opportunity as a creator, do the research, practice, ask questions,
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  Speaker 1: ask for advice, and be humble going into a space
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  Speaker 1: that really is not a traditional space for you.
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  Speaker 2: As far as the journalist side of it goes, y'all
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  Speaker 2: grow up.
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  Speaker 1: Like the world changes, the business of journalism, the business
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  Speaker 1: of media changes like every six months.
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  Speaker 2: It's not going to remain the same.
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  Speaker 1: The world that we went to school in twenty years
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  Speaker 1: years ago doesn't exist. These shows, these YouTube shows streaming
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  Speaker 1: that those kind of technologies were not even functioning at
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  Speaker 1: that time. Stop acting like everybody owes you something. No
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  Speaker 1: one owes you anything. These people, these creators, have cultivated
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  Speaker 1: huge audiences. They have done the work in a different form,
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  Speaker 1: for sure, but they have done the work to build audiences.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, we all know what
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  Speaker 2: this is about.
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  Speaker 1: Numbers, ratings, eyeballs, That's how this whole business works. So
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  Speaker 1: if they have a loyal audience, different platforms are going
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  Speaker 1: to seek those audiences out.
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  Speaker 2: That's how it works.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, sometimes they're going to have a misstep and
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  Speaker 1: hire somebody who's unqualified and it's going.
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  Speaker 2: To affect their product.
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  Speaker 1: But you're not owed that space just because you're a
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  Speaker 1: trained journalist. You also have to do the work to
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  Speaker 1: keep up with the ever changing landscape of media. That
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  Speaker 1: means you need to be on social media, you need
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  Speaker 1: to be making content, you need to show that you
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  Speaker 1: kind of crossover across a bunch of different platforms. So
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of different creators have weighed in
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  Speaker 1: kind of defending the creator space. This you know, keep
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  Speaker 1: in light, not too much on my girl, okay, because
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  Speaker 1: y'all do have work to do when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: the live space, when it comes to being professional. In
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  Speaker 1: these spaces, you're dealing with people who are having the
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  Speaker 1: biggest night of their lives, the Oscars, the Grammys, and
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  Speaker 1: some of you are on the red carpet looking crazy,
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  Speaker 1: looking unqualified, looking looking ignorance, looking like you don't know
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  Speaker 1: who babyfaces. Okay, so let's not act like this conversation
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  Speaker 1: has come out of nowhere. It's completely fair. However, I
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  Speaker 1: got to give it to the journalists too. Y'all need
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  Speaker 1: to be shifting with the ever changing media landscape as well.
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  Speaker 1: You can't just rest on the fact that you went
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  Speaker 1: to journalism school.
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  Speaker 2: It's cute. I went too. It was very helpful.
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  Speaker 1: But the world is different now and you have to
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  Speaker 1: be able to keep up with it, and nobody owes
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  Speaker 1: you anything. I can't say this enough. No one owes
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  Speaker 1: you anything. Just because you're super qualified does not mean
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  Speaker 1: that you are what they are looking for right now.
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  Speaker 1: That's just the reality of it, and it doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: that you have to be You have to cheapen yourself
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  Speaker 1: if that's how you feel or become a social media star.
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  Speaker 2: Trust me, I'm not do. You don't see me doing
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  Speaker 2: TikTok dances?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, there might be two videos on Earth of me
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  Speaker 1: doing TikTok dances and they're embarrassing. It's not what I do.
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  Speaker 1: That's not the world. Do what you do and do
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  Speaker 1: it well, and make sure that you're available across different platforms.
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  Speaker 1: So that's my speech on that. I think I'm very
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  Speaker 1: qualified to speak on it. I've had these experiences. I
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  Speaker 1: know it's very controversial, but it is what it is. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: the world has changed. As a creator and as a journalist,
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  Speaker 1: I see both sides of this very clearly. I think
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  Speaker 1: there are points made on both sides. What I would
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  Speaker 1: also say to the platforms is don't embarrass ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, please.
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  Speaker 1: Some of these creators do not know what they're doing,
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  Speaker 1: and doesn't mean you need to hire a journalist to
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  Speaker 1: do it either, but like do some research and make
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  Speaker 1: sure that they're at the very least going to know
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  Speaker 1: who it is that they're interviewing and be engaged the
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  Speaker 1: entire time.
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  Speaker 2: Or we could do a happy medium.
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  Speaker 1: Where we hire a qualified journalist who's done live work
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  Speaker 1: to work with the Creator, we could do that as well.
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  Speaker 1: There are solves for this, guys. So that's my rants
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  Speaker 1: on the Creator journalists debate. I'm sure we'll revisit it
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  Speaker 1: throughout the season because I'm sure this is going to
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  Speaker 1: come up again, but had to weigh in because it
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  Speaker 1: continues to go on and everybody has their opinion about it.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a solve for all of it, all right.
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  Speaker 1: The second thing I wanted to get into today, and
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  Speaker 1: I am positive that we will revisit this throughout the
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  Speaker 1: season as well.
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  Speaker 2: And I talked a little bit about this last year, but.
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  Speaker 1: It has really intensified over the past couple months because
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, they're trying real hard to
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  Speaker 1: get this project twenty twenty five thing across the finish line.
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  Speaker 1: They're so close. They've they've checked almost every box. What
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  Speaker 1: I'm referring to in this conversation is people not having babies.
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  Speaker 1: It is everywhere, and the statistics are starting to support
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  Speaker 1: that women are not just having babies later, which was
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  Speaker 1: something that I applauded last year that women were being
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  Speaker 1: more mindful about when.
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  Speaker 2: They start to have children.
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  Speaker 1: They're having children in their forties as opposed to teenage pregnancies,
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  Speaker 1: and that whole shift has happened. I'm very sensitive to
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  Speaker 1: this because I've talked a lot about not wanting children
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  Speaker 1: but also having a massive family.
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  Speaker 2: And I also have a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: Friends who are having kids right now, Friends who are
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  Speaker 1: going through IVF, friends who are freezing their eggs, friends
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  Speaker 1: who are having trouble having pregnancies, friends who have had kids,
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  Speaker 1: who have had pregnancy issues and postpartum.
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  Speaker 2: Also, I'm just sensitive to being a woman.
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  Speaker 1: And the state of attack that women are constantly under
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  Speaker 1: with their bodies. So the statistics are starting to pour
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  Speaker 1: in and it's a baby bust, and the conversation is
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  Speaker 1: why are people not having more children? Why are gen
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  Speaker 1: z having children? Why are millennials having less children? And
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  Speaker 1: people the higher ups are very concerned now. The higher
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  Speaker 1: ups are concerned because they need a workforce, Like.
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  Speaker 2: That's just the bottom line.
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  Speaker 1: If people are not creating babies, then there are no
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  Speaker 1: workers to then go do the tasks for the elites.
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  Speaker 1: That's really what it all comes down to at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day. But people are just being more mindful.
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  Speaker 1: Everything is expensive. I know we were promised cheaper eggs,
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  Speaker 1: but the eggs are still very expensive, and so is gas.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't apply to me because I have an electric car,
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  Speaker 1: but for those of you who need that.
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  Speaker 2: I understand you're going through a lot right now.
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  Speaker 1: That's also, all of these things have all affected the
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  Speaker 1: birth rate. There's obviously a huge gender war going on.
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  Speaker 1: People are you know, men and women are constantly at
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  Speaker 1: each other's throats. The dating scene is a disaster. Women
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  Speaker 1: have more access to financial stability, so they're able to
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  Speaker 1: make choices for themselves that don't involve having to have
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  Speaker 1: children or having to get married in order to have
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  Speaker 1: a roof over their head or food on this table.
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  Speaker 1: There's all these different factors, but there is a real
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  Speaker 1: statistical thing happening with people having children. And it's not
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  Speaker 1: just here in the US. But we'll talk about what's
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  Speaker 1: happening in the United States. From ages women, ages twenty
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  Speaker 1: to twenty four, eighty five percent are childless. That's up
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  Speaker 1: seventy five percent over the last ten years. Ages twenty
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  Speaker 1: five to twenty nine, sixty three percent are childless. That's
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  Speaker 1: up fifty percent from twenty fourteen. And thirty to thirty
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  Speaker 1: four forty percent of childless, which is up twenty nine
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  Speaker 1: percent from twenty fourteen. You're seeing also like this statistic
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  Speaker 1: thrown around that fifty two percents of women in their
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  Speaker 1: twenties and thirties are childless.
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  Speaker 2: And there was.
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  Speaker 1: This suspected baby boom that was gonna happen after the
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  Speaker 1: pandemic that didn't really stick. What we're dealing with right
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  Speaker 1: now is a culmination of a lot of different things.
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  Speaker 1: We're dealing with things being very expensive, it being very
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  Speaker 1: unsafe to have children. You're not safe in the hospitals.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a black woman, it's incredibly unsafe to have children.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have paid maternity leave. It's very expensive to
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  Speaker 1: raise children. Childcare is expensive. Food is expensive, gas is expensive,
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  Speaker 1: Eggs are expensive. They're not paying people more. There's not
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  Speaker 1: affordable housing. It actually makes more sense to rent a
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  Speaker 1: house than to buy a house right now. If you're
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  Speaker 1: in LA if you don't inherit a house, good luck,
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  Speaker 1: good fucking luck buying a house in Los Angeles. If
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  Speaker 1: you don't have some rich paar or a rich auntie
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  Speaker 1: passing that on to you. It is a crazy, crazy
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  Speaker 1: time for young people to start building their lives. On
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  Speaker 1: top of that, you have this rise of inceel and
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  Speaker 1: red pill hyper toxic masculinity happening. Women are shielding themselves
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  Speaker 1: from putting themselves in abusive and toxic situations with men.
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  Speaker 1: They're forming bonds with their friends and their family and
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  Speaker 1: building full lives outside of partners. Men are having a
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  Speaker 1: hard time communicating with women. There's an expectation of coming
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  Speaker 1: in with a certain level of money. There's all these
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  Speaker 1: The world is falling apart, We're about to enter World
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  Speaker 1: War III. Why would you want to bring a child
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  Speaker 1: into these circumstances. I try to remove myself from this
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: conversation in the way that none of these factors were
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: ever going to affect me anyway. But I do think
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: that when we talk about where society is shifting in
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: a conversation with people wanting to have children and the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: birth rate dropping across the planet, not just in the
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: United States, it's because people feel unsafe. We're in a
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: very strange time in human history where we have access
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: to so much information and then at the same time
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: no information at all because it's so hard to find
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: the truth. I'm someone, as I mentioned earlier, who's trains
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: in knowing where statistics are coming from and finding things
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: that are true, and making sure that what I'm speaking
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: on has value and isn't something I just pulled off
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: of a sticker on the internet.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: And it's even for me.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I have to double and triple and quadruple check to
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: make sure that this is These are things that I've
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: been researched.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: And are real.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: People aren't doing that, so we're constantly being fed all
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: this information. This is bad for you. This vaccine's bad
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: for you, Milk is bad for you. Water is bad
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: for you. If you work out too much, it's bad
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: for you. If you sleep too much, it's bad for you.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: The word the world is ending. You can't afford a car,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: you can't afford a house. People are calling the wall.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: It's a constant stimulation that people cannot find a quiet
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: moment to even think about building a family or finding
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: a partner, or building a life in the way that
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: our parents or grandparents were even considering. The economy has changed,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: people's sociological habits have changed, People's desires to build lives
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: in different ways have changed. So to put this pressure
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: on young people specifically that they've all just gotten away
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: from the ways of God or whatever this new propaganda
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: is for pro family, which is a whole situation once
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: we'll get to in a second. It's really unfair. You're
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: not considering all of the factors now if we want
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: to get into the propaganda side of it.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Obviously, they just had the.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Conservative Parade party where women were talking about, you know,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: start training your children to think about having kids, even
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: if they can't afford them. You know, women, there's a
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: whole tradwife movement that women need to get back into
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the kitchen, into the house. They need free labor again, women.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: You know, the family values and all that have gone away.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: There's this constant feeling that handmade's sale is right around
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the corner. And maybe it is. By the way, don't
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: look for me, I'm not in Canada. At the end
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: of the day, I want people to focus on what
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: it is that they truly want, because the amounts of
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: information that people are being fed about this particular topic
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: is so loaded with propaganda, it's so loaded with misinformation,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: it's so loaded with terror and rage that I don't
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: even think people can really make solid decisions anymore without
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: a complete feeling of doom.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: And if the people in.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Charge really which they don't, but if they really wanted
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: to create a society where people were excited about families
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: again and feeling comfortable creating the environments for children to
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: come into. It wouldn't be a nightmare to have a child.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't cost thousands of dollars to have a child.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: In the United States of America. My friend just had
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: a baby.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you what her hospital bill was,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: but she had insurance thousands of dollars to have a baby.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: A completely stable, married couple planned child.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Thousands of dollars.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: She had to have an emergency c section, traumatizing thousands
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: of dollars. The maternity rate for especially for black women,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: in this country is insane. It is dangerous. If you
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: get pregnant in certain states and you have a miscarriage,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: you could go to jail. What is the motivation to
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: be pregnant in a state where you can go to
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: jail for a miscarriage, but you want people to have children?
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Make it make sense.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Forget how expensive it is, Forget how or how you're
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: trying to roll back every single right that women have
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: within marriages. They're trying to get rid of no fault divorce.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: It's just a wild, wild time to be a woman,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: and it's a wild time to be somebody who wants
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: to start a family. I am in some ways grateful
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that this isn't something that I have to worry about,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: but wow, like just just seeing the people in my
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: life who are starting families, who have children, the things
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and the conversations that I have with them about the
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: things that they have to worry about, even the even
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: the things that we have discovered people have been up
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: to that we didn't even know were possible, Like within
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: the Epstein files, like there was like things you worried
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: about with having a child, and now it's like, oh,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't know also that like someone could kidnap them
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: and eat them. That wasn't on the board for me
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: when I was thinking about things I would be worried
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: about with my kid.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: So it's an ongoing discussion.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I know things are gonna get wilder and wilders as
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: this current regime progresses and as the push for Project
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five goes on. I'm just I'm just constantly,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: constantly shocked at the just the convoluted conversations, the empty
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: conversations around people not having children, and just how much
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: is included in the big picture of why it's happening,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: and considering that it's happening all over the world, it's
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: more than just Americans have lost their way and their
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: God has God has left the country. Like that's that's
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: honestly the weakest level of propaganda. If you want to
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: know what's really going on, think a bit deeper, think
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: a level deeper. Because it's happening all over the world,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and I think it's a reflection of the times that
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: we're living in. And you know, I think family is important.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I think people should keep having children. By the way,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like my quota is met, Like I have
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: fourteen nieces and nephews and another one on the way,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: so I feel like my family has checked the box
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: for like the repopulation. I feel like I'm in the clear.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Like I'll just count one one if you have one,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: like you've checked the box.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Is that how it works? So I'll just take one
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: of my nieces and nephews. I've got spares. You know,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Fifteen is a pretty solid number.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: The Taylor family has checked the box and repopulating the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: earth the keeping the quota going. Okay, it's time for
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I think my favorite segment of the show never too personal.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: This one is a very timely question could you be
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: friends with someone who supports President Trump? So I thought
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: this was a good tie in to have the conversation
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: about Chili and Nick Cannon. So I think at this
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: point everyone knows the situation. But Chili got caught up
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: this week. She has a tour coming up, and uh
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: it is She had reposted a video about Michelle Obama
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: accidentally conspiracy theory that Michelle Obama is a man. She
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: also donated to several Republican groups, including the Trump National Committee,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: so she has she has been found out as maga.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Nick Cannon much more upfront about it.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Uh. He was talking with Amber Rose. He said that he.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: F's with Trump because he is frustrated with the Democratic Party,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: and he also called the Democratic.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Party the party of the KKK.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: He has praised Trump's disruptor energy and describes himself as,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: as you know, politically ambiguous. He isn't a part of
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: any particular party. They're both evil, so every one is
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: up in arms about the two of them. Now, the
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: question was could you be friends with someone who supports
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: President Trump? The short answer is supports currently absolutely not.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Am I friends with people who have voted for President
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Trump in the past. Do I know people who have
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: voted for Trump who feel differently now or who have
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: learned that that was a mistake.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Could I be friends with someone who is actively today
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty six, the
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: year of Beyonce twenty twenty six, supporting Trump.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: No, that's going to be a hard, hard no for me.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: The experience that we have all gone through over how
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: long has it been, I don't know, it feels like
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: a lifetime. How long have we been dealing with this
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: man since twenty sixteens to like ten years. Over the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: past ten years dealing with Trump, the endless things that
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I could list that are just complete madness. Being friends
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: with someone who currently supports Trump would mean that I
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: am friends with someone who is.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: An accused pedophile. Accused is lights.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I'm saying accused alleged for legal purposes only because we
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: obviously know what the situation is moving beyond any of
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the other things that he has done, which is a
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: encyclopedia sized list. That's going to be a no for me,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: and I have to draw the line somewhere. I feel
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: like prison rules is safe prison roles. Prison roles feels good.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: So the thing with the thing with Chili and Nick
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Cannon that ties into this never suoer personal and why
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I couldn't do it, and why so many people are
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: frustrated with Chili and with Nick Cannon is being ignorant
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six and having a platform is not acceptable.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: There's too much at stake. There's certain times in history
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: where you are just you're living in the unprecedented times
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: is not the right way to say it. You're living
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: in historic times. There's been times throughout my almost forty
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: years on this earth where it just feels like life
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: is just happening, you know, like maybe somewhere or somewhere
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: in the world something historical is happening, but it doesn't
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: feel like it's like happening to us.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: We'll be talked about this moment, will be talked about
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: if we make it to the future, in future history books.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: This is an important, serious time in history. What's happening
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: right now? And we've passed the points of being ambiguous,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and we've passed the point of not picking a side.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: You're not allowed to do that anymore. You can have
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: a difference of an opinion on a particular subject. You
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: can have a particular moral standpoint that you disagree with something,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: but you have.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: To pick a side.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: And it's been like that for a while, but really,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: right now you have to pick aside. And if you're
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: going to announce things in the way that Nick Cannon did, you've.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Got to be educated.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, he is half right, the Democratic Party was the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: party of the KKK, but tell the rest of the story,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: or don't tell it at all, because you're not telling
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the entire story. And people like to throw these half
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: facts out to appear educated and they're not, and then
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: when they get cooked about it, they're like, well, I'm right, Like, yeah,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: you are right, that was the party of the KKK,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: but it's.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Not the party of the KKK. Now.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: It's not the party of the KKK now, And there
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: was a shift and it's obvious, and you've.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Got to read the whole book.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: And with Chili, if you're going to stand on that,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: if you're going to support someone who has has done
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: all of the things he's done leading up to this
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: current election, then stand on it. But she's coming out
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and trying to say that she didn't know and that
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: that excus just doesn't work anymore. The other part of
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: it for me is, and I've been being this drum
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: for years, is the cancel culture drum. If you work
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: in entertainment, nobody has to spend their money with you.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: No one has to do that. If you beat someone up,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: if you beat up a woman, if you hurd a child,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: if you vote for someone who's an accused pedophile and
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: rapist and encouraged a coup, if you don't know what
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that means.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Means.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: They on January sixth, they tried to overthrow the government
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the United States of America. They tried to overthrow the government.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: They didn't pull it off because they have mountain dew
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: ivs and Cheetoh fingers, so they weren't organized enough.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: But they did try it. They did try. That did happen.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: If you're going to support that, you're going to have
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: to stand on that. And that's the reality of this
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: situation in time. So I just it's hard. It's a
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: hard time now for everyone. People have really strong opinions.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: People want to be in between things. I'm a registered independent,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: but let me be very clear, I am I mean,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: what the fuck am I gonna say I'm not maggot,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: like be fucking for real. I don't even feel like
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: that's that's a silly fucking thing to say.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I am disgusted by our current state in this country.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I'm disgusted by our leaders. I am embarrassed by our leaders.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I think everyone who has a sense, has two brain
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: cells that communicate with each other, should be irates all
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Everyone should be enraged.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: And if you work in entertainment and you're going to
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: put your thoughts out there, I want you to understand
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: nobody has an obligation.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: To continue to support you.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: You don't sell milk, you make music. People don't have
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: to continue being fans of you. And for years, this
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: has always been a conversation, why I have free to
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: have speech?
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, you fucking do? Are you in? Oh?
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: No, then you have freedom of speech, baby, that's how
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: that works. You aren't free from consequences. And we live
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: in this time and space that for years people have
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: been hammering down the idea of consequences. Nobody should have
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: to suffer consequences. And we've gone so far now that
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: there's an entire list of pedophiles and the only person
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: who has had any consequences is the woman, which, by
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the way, fuck her, she should have consequences. It's just
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: ironic that that is the situation as consequences. The anti
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: consequence culture has gone so far that we are now
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: actually holding no one accountable for anything. So, if you
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: are in entertainment and you are choosing to voice your opinion,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: stand on that and understand. People do not have to
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: agree with you. Your employer doesn't.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Have to keep you.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: The fans don't have to keep supporting you. People don't
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: have to keep wearing your jersey. People don't have to
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: keep going to your shows. They don't have to keep
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: watching your movies. They don't have to do that. I
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: don't have to spend my heart earned ass money on
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: your bullshit product. If I don't like you anymore. I'm
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: also free to react to that. I've done this rant,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I think forty fucking times. It is just so frustrating.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: So I hope I answered the question. No, I couldn't
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: be friends with someone who supports Trump right now because
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I go by prison rules. So no, it's gonna be
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a no for me. There's been a
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: long journey that we've gone. Over the past ten years,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of things have happened, and with Nick Cannon.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: And with Chili.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Right now, people just have a very low tolerance for
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: acting like, you know, a thing or two and not
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: really standing on a side.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: You got to stand on a side right now.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: There's so many times throughout history where you know, for fun,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I like to read really depressing, sad, giant history books.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Haley actually brought me. I'm gonna try and read the
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Dragon books. Which one is it?
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: The Fairy books? Okay, I'm sorry with the fairy books?
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Which is it?
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Crown of Roses, Quart of Roses, Court of Roses. I'm
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: gonna try and light enough. I've been told I need
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: to lighten up a little bit, so but but there
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I will read these really traumatic, horrible stories of humans
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: just committing these mass atrocities to each other, and I'm
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: just like, wow, like, how could this happen? How could
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you convince this many people to be this evil for
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: no fucking reason.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: They get nothing out of this.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: They don't get money, they don't get fame, they don't
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: get fucking women, they don't get they don't get a
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: big house, like, they get nothing out of this, just
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: pure violence and rage, and then they put their lives
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: in danger and then millions of them died too.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Why the fuck do people do this?
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: It's it's always It just overwhelms me, the thought that
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: people could do this, And then I see how we
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: are living and treating each other right now, and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: like it's happening right now, And it's because people are indifferent.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: You have to stand for something and if you stand
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: on it, stand all the way fucking over there, and
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: when they betray you, which they will, you can't come
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: scurrying back. You can have anion here or there. You
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: can have a conservative opinion about something, but as a whole,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: if you're standing with people that are doing things that
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: would get you fucked up in prison, you're probably on
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the wrong side of it. I'm just saying I they
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: will get fucked up in prison, so maybe you're on
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: the wrong Just maybe you're on the wrong side of it.
• 34:25
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• 34:30
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• 34:44
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• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I won't always be so, but I've been around for
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: a while, so, you know, I feel like I kept
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: it kind of light with the creator thing. You know,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to do too much gloom and doom.
• 34:55
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