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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Charlie from the Bloomberg News Room. I'm Jill Schneider.
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  Speaker 1: Box at Katholeen Hayes on Bloomberg Radio. It is good
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  Speaker 1: to be king, or at least co founder of Facebook
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  Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg. At the company's annual shareholders meeting today, investor
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  Speaker 1: approved the creation of non voting shares that allow him
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  Speaker 1: to sell or give away much of his Facebook stock
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  Speaker 1: while retaining control of the company. This is key, That's
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  Speaker 1: why Mark Zuckerberg repos proposed this just a couple of
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  Speaker 1: months ago. Shareholds also re elected all eight members of
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  Speaker 1: the Social Networks Board, including Peter Thiel, the investor backing
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  Speaker 1: Deputy head of equity research at SMP Global Market Intelligence
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  Speaker 1: Here in New York, City, Welcome back, Scott Bank, Kathleen
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  Speaker 1: so Um not too surprising. I guess that the shareholders
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  Speaker 1: backed this creation of non voting shares that will help
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  Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg stay at the helm no matter what. A
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  Speaker 1: vote of confidence in Mark Zuckerberg. Yeah, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think one of the mottos to today's shareholder meeting could
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  Speaker 1: be you know and Mark, we trust, right. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think when you consider the fact that this company
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  Speaker 1: came public over four years ago, and they made it
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  Speaker 1: pretty clear that UM it would be a controlled company,
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  Speaker 1: which essentially means that Mark Zuckerberg UM was controlling a
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  Speaker 1: lot that went on at the company, from decision making
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  Speaker 1: to capital allocation to all in between. And honestly, initially
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  Speaker 1: there were substantial questions about corporate governance and whether or
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  Speaker 1: not Mark Zuckerberg, as you may recall, was kind of
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  Speaker 1: up to the challenge. He was wearing hoodies to UM
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  Speaker 1: the road show meetings and no showing and other important gatherings,
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  Speaker 1: at least according to unconfirmed reports. And meanwhile, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's fair to say that over the last four years
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  Speaker 1: he's really emerged as one of the pre eminent CEOs
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  Speaker 1: on the planet. Scott what about investing in Facebook shares
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  Speaker 1: at thirteen dollars a pop, so PAM. What's interesting about
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  Speaker 1: Facebook is that stock hasn't done all that well for
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. Obviously, it did tremendously well
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  Speaker 1: last year, and I think here to date it's still outperforming.
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  Speaker 1: But I think there's been some consolidation over the last
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  Speaker 1: one call it UM a couple of weeks, I think,
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  Speaker 1: largely for a couple of reasons. So first, I think
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  Speaker 1: there were some concerns about this shareholder meeting and what
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  Speaker 1: could potentially come out of it. The other thing is,
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  Speaker 1: I think books are increasingly concerned about UM competition. It
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  Speaker 1: seems like there's a lot of talk about Snapchat and
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  Speaker 1: whether Snapchat is let's say, taking some users and engagement
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  Speaker 1: away from if not Facebook, then perhaps definitely Instagram. And
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  Speaker 1: then I think last it seems like a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people believe that all the good news is out on
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  Speaker 1: Facebook and all the investors who could buy are already
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  Speaker 1: in the shares. We have to uh disagree with those
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  Speaker 1: notions to a large extent. We think there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: more upside. The stock is trading at thirty two times
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  Speaker 1: our estimate for this year's earnings, and we're looking for
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  Speaker 1: growth of more than that in revenues next year. What
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  Speaker 1: that means, in our opinion is that you've got a
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  Speaker 1: unique combination of growth and value. We like the stock.
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  Speaker 1: We have a buy opinion or twelve mont target price
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  Speaker 1: is hundred and fifty dollars. Okay, Peter teal he gets
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  Speaker 1: to stay on the board now. Of course, he is
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  Speaker 1: the co founder of PayPal, along with Max Levchen and
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  Speaker 1: Elon Musk. He serves its first CEO. He was the
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  Speaker 1: first outside investor in Facebook, with a ten point two
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  Speaker 1: percent stake, acquired in two thousand four for five thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Way to go, Peter teal Right. I mean he's a
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  Speaker 1: very successful investor, he's a billionaire. Uh, he's got this
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  Speaker 1: controversial secret funding of a lawsuit against Gawker. He's staying
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  Speaker 1: on the board because he's so close to Mark Zuckerberg.
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  Speaker 1: What what? Or on the other hand, why was it controversial?
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  Speaker 1: Why shouldn't he stay on the board. Well, look, I
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  Speaker 1: mean this is obviously an issue that's not going to
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  Speaker 1: go away so quickly. I think there are a lot
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  Speaker 1: of questions to be asked and answered. Get However, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's fair to say that, Look, Peter Teel, as
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  Speaker 1: you pointed out, has been a visionary and very successful
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  Speaker 1: UM investor and operator when it comes to Silicon Valley.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned PayPal, um at a very um beneficial exit
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  Speaker 1: to eBay right after the company came public. Clearly, when
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  Speaker 1: you're one of the first investors in Facebook, as you referenced,
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  Speaker 1: I think he was the first outside investor in the
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  Speaker 1: company UM. I think there are a lot of reasons
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  Speaker 1: to have future Teal on the board. On the other hand,
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  Speaker 1: there are obviously questions about this, and I guess we'll
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  Speaker 1: wait and see what further details come up related to
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  Speaker 1: this issue. I think the fact remains so that Facebook
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  Speaker 1: looks at this in the context of Facebook Peter Teel's
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  Speaker 1: contributions as a board member, and if what he did
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  Speaker 1: or what he will do will kind of adversely affect
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  Speaker 1: what he's able to contribute, And I think the answer
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  Speaker 1: to that question appears to be no. And I think that, Look,
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  Speaker 1: Facebook's board is very strong, and I think it makes
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  Speaker 1: sense that it continues as it was. Scott, just quickly,
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  Speaker 1: if you can tell us they're gonna be three classes
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  Speaker 1: of stock if you happen to own a Class A
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  Speaker 1: or Class B shares. What's gonna happen. You're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: some C shares too. Yeah, I think what's gonna happen
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  Speaker 1: PIM is somewhat similar to what happened with UM what
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  Speaker 1: now known as what now is known as Alphabet, where
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  Speaker 1: you had a situation where you had one class of
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  Speaker 1: stock and that class will probably continue, and then you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have another class of stock that won't have voting shares,
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  Speaker 1: and essentially you might see the equivalent of an adjustment
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  Speaker 1: in the existing share price. So the bottom line is,
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  Speaker 1: the full details are not out on that because obviously
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  Speaker 1: we see the shareholder approval. I think it has to
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  Speaker 1: go through some other UM kind of UM minister ministerial issues,
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  Speaker 1: and so we'll wait and see. But not a big
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  Speaker 1: change as far as I'm concerned. Scott Kessler, thank you
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  Speaker 1: very much. He is the deputy head of Equity research
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  Speaker 1: for SMP Global Market Intelligence. Speaking about Facebook shares, a
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  Speaker 1: Facebook of fifty five cents right now, thirteen dollars and
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  Speaker 1: fifty seven cents for Facebook. You're listening to taking stock
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