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Ohio State Football, The Buckeyes Making The Biggest Impact: 40-31 · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Thursday, July sixteenth,
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  Speaker 1: loves lists. And if we know three things about the Internet,
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  Speaker 1: if that everyone loves to argue about lists. So great news, friends,
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  Speaker 1: We have a list today to talk about. Going to
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  Speaker 1: bring in Tony Gerdimer's Buckeye Insiders dot com to join me. Tony,
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  Speaker 1: I put together a list of the forty most impactful
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  Speaker 1: players on this year's Ohio State team. We're gonna do.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna kind of zip to the top five, kind
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  Speaker 1: of like the others receiving votes here. But man, every
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  Speaker 1: time I do something like this, I realize, oh man,
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  Speaker 1: this is a real pain in the butt. Like it's
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  Speaker 1: an almost impossible task where it's like, oh, okay, Firs
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  Speaker 1: Henry Junior versus Kyle Parker versus Brandon and Is versus
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  Speaker 1: Devin mcew and like I could make an argument for
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  Speaker 1: almost any order there. And that's just one of the
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  Speaker 1: positions we're we're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then when you get into comparing positions, is
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  Speaker 2: Chris Henry Junior more important than kway rusa something like that.
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  Speaker 2: That's why whenever I make lists and I categorize them
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  Speaker 2: and rank them, I only do it alphabetically.
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  Speaker 1: Very very very smart. Yes, I mean we're going to
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  Speaker 1: do this alphabetically by number, so the you know, it'll
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  Speaker 1: be a little bit of a fun exercise. And I
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  Speaker 1: think this is also don't get too hung up on
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  Speaker 1: the individual placements on this list. I think if you
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  Speaker 1: kind of you can slide guys up five spots, slide
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  Speaker 1: guys down five spots, and you're not going to get
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  Speaker 1: a huge argument probably. But here's the others receiving votes.
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  Speaker 1: Section TJ Alfred linebacker, offensive lineman Josh Padilla, who obviously
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  Speaker 1: moves up quite a bit if he ends up winning
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  Speaker 1: a job Punter Joe Maguire and a pair of transfer
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  Speaker 1: tight ends who just missed, Hunter Wilson and Mason Williams,
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  Speaker 1: either of any of those guys who you feel like
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  Speaker 1: are tremendously underappreciated here before we get started with the
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  Speaker 1: proper the list proper.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't say tremendously underappreciated. I'd say because this
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  Speaker 2: is a list of the top forty, with TJ Alfred
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  Speaker 2: being forty, that feels kind of low based on the
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  Speaker 2: fact that he was with the ones in the spring. Now,
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  Speaker 2: there were injuries, we know, but he got a lot
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  Speaker 2: of experience, and James Laurenn Nia said it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be a difficult to keep him off the field. So
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  Speaker 2: I think maybe that one, and I'm going to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's Mason Williams or Hunter Wilson, I'll say Mason
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  Speaker 2: Williams is a little low, because again, when we do
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  Speaker 2: these kind of lists, I'm not here to confirm your list.
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  Speaker 2: I'm here to critique it. And so I would say
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  Speaker 2: TG Alfred's a little low, Mason Williams a little low.
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  Speaker 2: And if I don't mention a player. That does not
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  Speaker 2: mean I am agreeing or confirming. It just means you're
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  Speaker 2: trying to move along.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So when we go through these lists, you
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  Speaker 1: have to tell me who you need to move way
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  Speaker 1: down to account for the spots that we are now
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  Speaker 1: failing or is this are we doing this like everyone
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  Speaker 1: online where it's like here are the twelve top five
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  Speaker 1: college football teams this year? Like no, no, there's only
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  Speaker 1: five of those. So all right, there are only thirty
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  Speaker 1: five guys in this top thirty five list. So let's
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  Speaker 1: start with number thirty five, Will Smith, junior defensive tackle.
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  Speaker 1: He is expected to play a bigger role again this year,
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  Speaker 1: and he's someone who you know, I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: you could put him higher, but I don't. He's not
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  Speaker 1: going to probably be the guy getting the more, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the greater number of snaps, and a sort of rotational
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  Speaker 1: spot in my mind, so I think he's just a
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  Speaker 1: little bit outside of that sort of top twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: I think if he ends up here, because if we're
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  Speaker 2: saying if he's number thirty five, then and this off
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  Speaker 2: this list is somewhat even between offense and defense, saying
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  Speaker 2: he's like one of the seventeen or eighteen most important
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  Speaker 2: defensive players. I think there's an argument for that. And shoot,
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  Speaker 2: I said, I didn't want to confirm your list, Tom,
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  Speaker 2: but I may have. I don't really have an issue
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  Speaker 2: with this one. I think the possibilities are I can
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  Speaker 2: see a fluctuation between thirty and forty something like that,
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  Speaker 2: although I don't know that he's going to fall much
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  Speaker 2: blow say thirty seven.
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  Speaker 1: Issue. Yeah, I think you have to have him somewhere
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  Speaker 1: in that top thirty five, And it's just a matter
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  Speaker 1: of do you want to move him up a few spots.
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  Speaker 1: You want to move him, you can move him down
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  Speaker 1: a few spots. But I think he's you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: going to play a role. You know, he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be playing fifteen twenty snaps a game there, So he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be in there somewhere number thirty four. I've
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  Speaker 1: got bo Atkinson and man the defensive end position. Like
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  Speaker 1: you know, Kenyata Jackson. You're not going to hear Kenyada
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  Speaker 1: Jackson's name for quite a while as we count up
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  Speaker 1: this list. But the side opposite Kenyada Jackson, you kind
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  Speaker 1: of I've got three different names on this list, and
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  Speaker 1: that does not include a guy who's probably not quite
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  Speaker 1: a defensive end but sort of defensive end adjacent. So yeah, oh,
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  Speaker 1: Atkinson is someone who came in last spring, I think
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  Speaker 1: everyone was expecting big things. Did not play that kind
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  Speaker 1: of a role last year. But just on Wednesday was
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  Speaker 1: named one of the Dudes of the Week by Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, is he trending back up?
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  Speaker 2: It would be interesting. I think it would be acceptable
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  Speaker 2: this year or maybe people would be thrilled if he
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  Speaker 2: lived up to the expectations that people had for him
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. And those expectations were based off
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  Speaker 2: of maybe like three big games at North Carolina when
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  Speaker 2: he put up some stats and had like three and
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  Speaker 2: a half tackles for the loss and three sacks in
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  Speaker 2: each of those games. So he built up and stockpiled
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  Speaker 2: some of those those numbers. If he is thirty four here,
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  Speaker 2: like I feel like there's a possibility he's under ranked here,
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  Speaker 2: but I want to see it first. We talked to
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  Speaker 2: him in the spring, said he's worked on his flexibility.
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  Speaker 2: He was disappointed in how last year went. There was
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  Speaker 2: a transition issue for him in coming over from northa
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  Speaker 2: So there's some reason behind some of those struggles. Now
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  Speaker 2: we have to see if that those were the only
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  Speaker 2: reasons and that those it's those things that kept him
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  Speaker 2: a little bit low and really limited to his snaps
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  Speaker 2: after that Texas game, and has he picked everything back up.
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  Speaker 2: So this would be a guy that I think has
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  Speaker 2: the opportunity to really shoot up the rankings, but based
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  Speaker 2: on last year, I think this is acceptable.
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  Speaker 1: Number thirty three, I've got Jacoby Jackson, and this is
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  Speaker 1: one of those guys where I feel like I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to be wrong here and either he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: ten spots too low or ten spots too high, just
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  Speaker 1: depending on is he a really crucial goal line piece
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  Speaker 1: for them? Is he someone who is a big third
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  Speaker 1: down back out of the backfield for them, or does
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  Speaker 1: he get kind of his get his carries sort of
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  Speaker 1: swallowed up by some of the other running backs we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be talking about on this.
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  Speaker 2: List well, And being that he's the first running back
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  Speaker 2: that you mentioned, I can assume there will be a
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  Speaker 2: couple of couple few other running backs mentioned as well.
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  Speaker 2: So then how important can the number four guy be?
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  Speaker 2: And when you're asking, when I was talking about TG
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  Speaker 2: Alfred and you, well, who are you gonna move you
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  Speaker 2: know who you're gonna move down. I think Jacoby Jackson
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  Speaker 2: has the opportunity. I shouldn't the opportunity. He could be
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  Speaker 2: one of those guys that would be moved down as
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  Speaker 2: others move up. But yeah, this is another one where
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  Speaker 2: if he's the twenty twenty four Jacoby Jackson rushing for
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  Speaker 2: five hundred yards on one hundred carries, then he's I'd
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  Speaker 2: say he's higher than thirty three. So this is almost
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  Speaker 2: like you're you're right, you're gonna be wrong because you're
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  Speaker 2: trying just to be in the average of where he
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  Speaker 2: could be and where he you know, where he may
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  Speaker 2: end up. And this is one where you're just like,
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  Speaker 2: I hope I'm in the neighborhood, but I don't. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna be thirty three, but he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be somewhere between like twenty five and thirty nine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think on average, I've sort of given myself
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a window where he's gonna fall
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  Speaker 1: within this area plus minus about eight to ten spots,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll just see which direction that ends up going.
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  Speaker 1: So that was number thirty three. Number thirty two. Let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about Riley Petty John because he's sort of like
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  Speaker 1: an adjacent to TJ Alfred. He's sort of in that
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  Speaker 1: same conversation, but we didn't get to see him in
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  Speaker 1: the spring. He I think came out of last season
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  Speaker 1: with people sort of thinking he's ahead of tj Alford,
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  Speaker 1: but then he really missed the spring. So I'm assuming
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  Speaker 1: he's still ahead of tj Alford. But that's really just
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  Speaker 1: kind of a guess at this point.
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  Speaker 2: And here's a guy that could be way up the list,
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  Speaker 2: but we just don't know yet. Where would Arval Reice
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  Speaker 2: be on this list. You know, last year, he certainly
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  Speaker 2: would be. It would have been higher than thirty one,
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  Speaker 2: we know that, but he wouldn't have been as high
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  Speaker 2: as he ended up. And so I think Riley Petty
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  Speaker 2: John here, if you just look at this entire list
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  Speaker 2: and say, like, who is the guy that could move
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  Speaker 2: up the most spots from where they are, I think
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be a pretty decent that if he
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  Speaker 2: does end up thirty first on this list, I think
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  Speaker 2: that I think that's maybe a testament to other guys
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  Speaker 2: holding him back rather than you know, he's just not ready,
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  Speaker 2: because they certainly want to get him on the field.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a matter of figuring out what he can do.
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  Speaker 2: So I think this could be much higher, but that
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  Speaker 2: would be I don't want to say it would be
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  Speaker 2: crazy speculation on your part, but it would be some
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  Speaker 2: projection and some speculation.
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  Speaker 1: And I had him thirty two. And the reason I
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  Speaker 1: had him thirty two is because I have changed the
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  Speaker 1: order of the list since I sent it to you
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  Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes ago. I keep second guessing myself and thinking, well,
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  Speaker 1: but what about this? So this is a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a living document. But well, we will continue onward
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  Speaker 1: and upward with number thirty one. That's Kyle Parker. And man,
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  Speaker 1: you want to talk about the challenges of ranking the
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  Speaker 1: defensive ends, let's talk about the challenges of ranking the
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  Speaker 1: wide receivers. Which wide receiver would you like? That we
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  Speaker 1: know Jeremiah Smith a lot, a lot like Kenyata Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to Jeremiah Smith's name on this show
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  Speaker 1: for quite a while. But everyone else in that wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver rotation. You got some freshmen that are really intriguing.
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  Speaker 1: You've got some veteran transfers who they brought in which
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  Speaker 1: you expect them to play a pretty big role. You
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  Speaker 1: got a senior, former five Star team captain. I mean
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  Speaker 1: you can and you can just kind of make an
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  Speaker 1: argument for these guys in almost any order you want to.
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  Speaker 1: Except for Jeremi Smith.
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  Speaker 2: And really Kyle Parker playing that Z in the slot,
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  Speaker 2: he could be on the field a lot, and if
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  Speaker 2: he is productive, then there's no almost no reason to
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  Speaker 2: take him off the field other than just to give
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  Speaker 2: him a break here and there. But when you think
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  Speaker 2: about the Z in the slot, we know they love
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  Speaker 2: to throw the ball to the slot. When they've got
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  Speaker 2: somebody that is can can do something with the football
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  Speaker 2: and is a threat to a defense. We know that
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  Speaker 2: they are comfortable throwing to the Z. I mean you
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  Speaker 2: look at Colonel Tate and what he was able to do,
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  Speaker 2: and so you know that's either of those positions could
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  Speaker 2: be a very busy for him. But again we you know,
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  Speaker 2: we haven't seen much of him in terms of like
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  Speaker 2: just wowing, but also a lot of the passes in
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  Speaker 2: the spring we're more short yarded stuff and more quick stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, it's really hard to wow somebody when
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  Speaker 2: you're throwing quick stuff and it's two hand touched that
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  Speaker 2: sort of thing. So I think this is another one
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  Speaker 2: where I think he could be higher, But I could
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  Speaker 2: also see him being exactly right here, because as he
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  Speaker 2: you know, a jack of some trades, master of non
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  Speaker 2: type of guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and with a team full of talented but not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily entirely proven guys, I feel like almost all of
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  Speaker 1: these you could say, yeah, I could see him higher,
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  Speaker 1: because yeah I could. I could definitely see Kyle Parker hire.
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  Speaker 1: But how are you going to split up those snaps
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  Speaker 1: and how are you going to split up those carries?
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  Speaker 1: And how you I mean, with all the stuff, all
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  Speaker 1: the talented skill guys, They've got an offense A lot
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  Speaker 1: of different ways this season could shake out. So there
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  Speaker 1: you go. That is thirty five through thirty one. Next
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