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Ross Jackson Talks Saints Training Camp Battles, NFL Quarter Century Team · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 6: Sharp decided we're gonna keep it positive. You're on this Friday.
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  Speaker 6: I can mention Shador Sanders going over one hundred and
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  Speaker 6: two miles an hour faster than he processes his reads.
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  Speaker 6: Don't want to go there, though, we could go Adrian
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  Speaker 6: Peterson getting into a bar fight and getting arrested. We're
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  Speaker 6: not going to do that. Because yesterday a little bit
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  Speaker 6: of an under the radar move, which, if healthy, could
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  Speaker 6: be the move of the offseason. The Multiple Ravens have
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  Speaker 6: signed jay R Alexander. This is a one year, six
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  Speaker 6: million dollars deal for a guy who is twenty eight
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  Speaker 6: years old that the last full season he played, he
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  Speaker 6: was an All Now he's only played in thirty four
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  Speaker 6: of the possible sixty eight games the last two seasons,
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  Speaker 6: so he's been there fifty percent of the time. But
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  Speaker 6: if Jay, you're Alexander could stay healthy, Like that's a guy,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, top five corner in the NFL, went fully healthy.
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  Speaker 5: He's on a one year, six million dollar deal.
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  Speaker 4: I actually had this in my nose to bring up today, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: because it is such a good signing. So apparently him
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  Speaker 4: and him and Lamar Jackson are pretty close. So Lamar
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  Speaker 4: Jackson was like had a press press conference beforehand, somebody
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  Speaker 4: asked him about him. He kind of like played a
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  Speaker 4: little mom little koy. But he takes a six million
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  Speaker 4: dollar deal, takes a pay cut, and takes a does
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  Speaker 4: a one year deal, And I love it because he
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  Speaker 4: could have gone and made really good money, probably signed
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  Speaker 4: a two to three year contract somewhere else.
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  Speaker 3: But what he's doing, he wants to win. He's chasing
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  Speaker 3: a ring, and.
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  Speaker 4: Those are the kind of stories that Lea's fans should
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  Speaker 4: kind of celebrate. A guy not trying to make the
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  Speaker 4: most money can immediately and chase and chase the championship
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  Speaker 4: team chase a ring.
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  Speaker 6: So you got Marlin Hall for you. On the other side,
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  Speaker 6: Kyle Hamilton's another safety. He drafted Malachi's Starks out of Georgia.
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  Speaker 6: That's a damn good secondary all under the age of thirty.
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  Speaker 6: And you get Jy're Alexander on basically the veteran minimum.
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  Speaker 7: Andy got Nate Wiggins. It was pretty good last.
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  Speaker 3: Year, all right, I see if they can kind of
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  Speaker 3: get over that hump, we'll see.
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  Speaker 8: These are from Mama Flynn.
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  Speaker 4: Right there, Holy Molly, Mama Flynn pretty sure correctly, Yes
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  Speaker 4: you did just text me.
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  Speaker 3: But she had a little delivery can.
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  Speaker 8: All the way from Tyler Tex Ruth Flynn. I appreciate it,
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  Speaker 8: shout out, miss Ruth.
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  Speaker 9: Ah, the crowd goes crazy.
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  Speaker 8: Look at these, I know if we doesn't have push
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  Speaker 8: ups for two boxes?
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  Speaker 7: Oh wow wow, ohamn, big cookies.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, why is so big? These even cookies? That's
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  Speaker 3: that's what they look like like many cakes.
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  Speaker 7: That's a huge cookie. And then run with some big Today.
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  Speaker 9: Today is like the day that you're like, doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 9: Calories don't count your vers. They do not count.
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  Speaker 3: When you're forty, though they count a little.
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  Speaker 4: True.
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  Speaker 7: No, no, no, we deny science.
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  Speaker 9: Remember that's true, well, we said, but we also said
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  Speaker 9: not all science.
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  Speaker 8: We questioned it as well.
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  Speaker 3: The math is pretty accurate. Math numbers numbers.
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  Speaker 8: People lie, words, lie stories, lie. Numbers don't thanks. See.
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  Speaker 7: I used to believe that until the Derek Carr fans
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  Speaker 7: would be like, dude, look at his numbers. Man, he's
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  Speaker 7: he's he's not the problem man, Derek Carr, he's a
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  Speaker 7: top twelve.
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  Speaker 8: Cor yards per attempt, so a big one in here.
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  Speaker 6: But the numbers kind of do tell the story with Car, right,
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  Speaker 6: because everybody talked about the empty numbers like his numbers
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  Speaker 6: themselves are bad, except that when lost number like, the
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  Speaker 6: numbers kind of actually do tell the story with Car.
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  Speaker 3: Mhm, guess what you got a new card. We don't
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  Speaker 3: get a new card.
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  Speaker 5: We don't talk about it anymore.
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  Speaker 7: He's I know, it feels like a piece of he's
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  Speaker 7: missing piece of Mond.
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  Speaker 4: Did y'all see that ESPN dropped a all quarter century team?
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  Speaker 8: Were talking College of Pro Pro.
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  Speaker 4: NFL All quarter century years last twenty five years. I
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  Speaker 4: have not seen this, so I wanted to bring it up.
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  Speaker 4: Let's see, I mean quarterbacks, got to say, do you
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  Speaker 4: get do.
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  Speaker 3: You have the guy that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I can look at it. It's on Twitter, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I got it X.
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  Speaker 3: And I was. I was going through it.
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  Speaker 4: It's a pretty good list, obviously, you got a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people to choose from, so that they kind of
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  Speaker 4: tried to dabble into, you know, early two thousands men
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  Speaker 4: like kind of throw in some current players as well.
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  Speaker 4: I felt pretty good about it. Let's see here, I
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  Speaker 4: got to pulled up. You mean, do you wanna kind
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  Speaker 4: of roll through some of it? Yeah, well, let's we'll
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  Speaker 4: start with the coaches first and then roll to the
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  Speaker 4: quarterback because I didn't really have any issues with any
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  Speaker 4: of them except for maybe one or two positions.
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  Speaker 9: All right, So coaching staff, Bill Belichick, head coach Kyle
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  Speaker 9: Shanahan OC Wade Phillips defensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 4: Any I mean Belichick's yes, chalk answers. No one's gonna
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  Speaker 4: argue with that, Shannon, I mean offensive coordinator. You can
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  Speaker 4: just like you can probably pick ten ten different from
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  Speaker 4: the same coaching tree.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, from the same coaching tree.
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  Speaker 8: Sean McVay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody loves the Wade Phillips too.
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  Speaker 9: Everybody does love Wade Phillips. Is he still coaching in
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  Speaker 9: the UFL.
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  Speaker 3: Or the UFL XFO whatever it was.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel like he is.
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  Speaker 9: All right, so let's go through this real quick and
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  Speaker 9: maybe you know, we can come back to it as well.
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  Speaker 8: Quarterbacks, you got three.
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  Speaker 9: Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Patrick mahonmes.
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  Speaker 5: Hard to argue with that.
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  Speaker 4: Hard argue with that, I mean, yeah, if you argued
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  Speaker 4: with it, you're just gonna based on the pure love
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  Speaker 4: of somebody. But who would you tell so practice squad
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  Speaker 4: Tom and Patrick, Yeah are above Peyton for me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't like it to your teammates with them?
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  Speaker 8: Oh no, I mean I get no, that's that's a
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  Speaker 8: good argument.
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  Speaker 3: Just from the rings from ring standpoint.
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  Speaker 9: Practice squad Quarterbacks, practice squad, Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees
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  Speaker 9: were the two Drew Brees.
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  Speaker 8: I have no argument with that.
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  Speaker 3: I would throw man, would you throw Big Ben in there?
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  Speaker 6: Big Ben gets Yeah, completely good that that's a good
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  Speaker 6: one to Super Bowls.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: I would throw Big Ben as as practice squad alternate.
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  Speaker 4: Then the position that you know, love, I want to
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  Speaker 4: know how you feel about this. Obviously you could have
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  Speaker 4: been in the running for this one.
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  Speaker 9: This is this is I thought you meant running back
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  Speaker 9: way off?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, you shack no argument here? Uh maybe if I
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  Speaker 8: if I actually.
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  Speaker 3: How do you judge?
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  Speaker 5: How do you do pure fullback?
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  Speaker 8: He's got Lorenzo Lorenzo Neils. That was Miami Low Daddy.
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  Speaker 4: So Kyle, he's got nine Pro Bowls, So that's like,
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  Speaker 4: if you're going to base it off that, that's probably.
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  Speaker 9: He's a better overall player for sure. But low Daddy
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  Speaker 9: was like the ultimate lead blocker.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, so Lorenzo, I.
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  Speaker 3: Couldn't tell you a thing about him, So I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: go on your judgment there.
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  Speaker 9: The running backs though, Priest Holmes, Christian McCaffrey, Derrick Henry,
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  Speaker 9: this is a this is a practice squad Ledani and Thomlinson.
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  Speaker 9: I don't think I'm practicing squad and Adrian Peterson he
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  Speaker 9: might not have quick hands anymore, but Christian McCaffrey and.
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  Speaker 4: Priest homes So Adrian Peterson seven times, seven Pro Bowls
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  Speaker 4: for All Pros, Rookie of the Year, No. Seven Offensive
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  Speaker 4: Player of the Year, and NFL in the NFL MVP
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  Speaker 4: twenty twelve, and then that year he had two thousand
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  Speaker 4: ninety seven yards, which was eight off the NFL record.
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  Speaker 7: Off the torn ACL, off.
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  Speaker 3: The torn ACL.
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  Speaker 4: Danian Tomlinson five Pro Bowls, six All Pro, one time
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  Speaker 4: NFL MVP. When when you got a running back that
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  Speaker 4: wends the NFL MVP, that's a dude.
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  Speaker 3: It probably should better than practice squad.
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  Speaker 4: One hundred and forty five rushing touchdowns for LT Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: what about running past it would and then another person
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  Speaker 4: out throwing.
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  Speaker 3: This is Frank Gore.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't have like the like the individual awards longevity six.
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  Speaker 4: Let's see fourteen of his sixteen seasons he played sixteen
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  Speaker 4: plus games in him as a running back, sixteen thousand
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  Speaker 4: career rushing yards. I think that's third all time, but
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  Speaker 4: behind Emmitt Smith and Walter.
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  Speaker 3: Payton, right, they're pretty good, pretty decent. Then it's Frank Gore.
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  Speaker 4: I'll probably throw him in there over Christian McCaffrey. You
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  Speaker 4: can't argue with Dary like they're trying to throw somebody
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  Speaker 4: like Current in right.
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  Speaker 9: So Derek Henry, Yeah yeah, yeah, but no LT and
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  Speaker 9: a D which is what Adrian Peterson's name was for
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  Speaker 9: all day, are gonna be on my team.
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  Speaker 8: They're not gonna be.
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  Speaker 3: On the practice quad. Yeah that's bad.
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  Speaker 4: Uh Ap did get work though slow, like just he
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  Speaker 4: got glasses. He caught it, got two pieces. It didn't
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  Speaker 4: really phase him, but he caught it.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 9: Receivers Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, Terrell Owens, Marvin Harrison,
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  Speaker 9: and Justin Jefferson practice squad Antonio Brown like Andre Johnson.
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  Speaker 7: So Larry Fitzgerald doesn't exist anymore.
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  Speaker 6: Well so not only that, I love Julio Jones. There's
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  Speaker 6: no reason he should be over t O and Calvin Johnson.
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  Speaker 4: This is not like this is a pretty good list
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  Speaker 4: except for ye know, Julio does have more career yards
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  Speaker 4: than Calvin Johnson.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Calvin retired early, cal I retired at thirty.
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  Speaker 4: But you're picking one wide receiver from twenty two thousand.
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  Speaker 8: Five, like if my life depended on getting.
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  Speaker 3: If your life depended on just one.
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  Speaker 8: Receiver, who you picking like to get open to.
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  Speaker 3: Make it to make a play. No, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if it's gonna get open, it's going to make him play.
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  Speaker 7: Oh seven, Randy Moss.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, I really want to go, Larry. It's like, I'm
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  Speaker 6: not I'm not. I'm not saying it open because a
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  Speaker 6: lot of these people catch the ball when they're not open.
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  Speaker 6: Like if you got if you have to put one
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  Speaker 6: receiver one game, one one for your life.
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  Speaker 7: Are you doing oh seven?
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  Speaker 3: Randy Moss, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if it's that easy.
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  Speaker 8: Cooper Cup had a triple crown.
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  Speaker 6: I have only I've always been a big Larry Fitzgerald guy.
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  Speaker 7: I guess I'll go.
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  Speaker 3: Randy. Don't know.
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  Speaker 8: Man, Jets, y'all might think he's too early on this list.
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  Speaker 7: He's on the way. He's on the way.
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  Speaker 4: You guys are crazy. It is one Megatron.
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  Speaker 7: Respect the Megatron.
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  Speaker 5: For for sure.
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  Speaker 8: Like that he's play in the division.
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  Speaker 3: So you saw him way more than a whole lot.
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  Speaker 3: I saw him catch.
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  Speaker 4: I think he got three bills against US one one game.
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  Speaker 9: The checkdown for the Lions at that time was Stafford
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  Speaker 9: would tap his helmet and Megatron would go to the
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  Speaker 9: end zone and Stafford would just throw it up.
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  Speaker 8: They did to that. They did that to us twice, Like.
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  Speaker 9: Stafford back rolling out, tap his head and then who
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  Speaker 9: and then Megatron took it off of Wettle's helmet twice.
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  Speaker 9: What was in perfect position was a baller. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 9: means like all decades.
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  Speaker 4: October twenty seventh, twenty thirteen, Calvin Johnson three and twenty
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  Speaker 4: nine yards receiving against the cow.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, remember I just let me just all right, hold on,
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  Speaker 9: I just saw this list, and let's get to the
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  Speaker 9: tight end position. And I don't have time in this
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  Speaker 9: segment to say what I want to say. Man, oh
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  Speaker 9: my god. Like the people that don't respect Antonio Gates.
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  Speaker 3: Is he is the only practice quad.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's wild.
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  Speaker 9: Let's go to Let's go to our guy Ross Jackson.
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  Speaker 9: We'll join us talk a little New Orleans Saints. Speaking
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  Speaker 9: of tight end position, that's a kind of an important
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  Speaker 9: one for the Saints. We'll break it all down with
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  Speaker 9: Ross when we come back here.
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  Speaker 8: It is otb off the bench. I mean, teams used.
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  Speaker 9: To guard gates like it was phunt, Like they put
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  Speaker 9: All right, welcome back again, O TV one oh four
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  Speaker 9: gonna talk a little New Orleans Saints with our guy
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  Speaker 9: Ross Jackson.
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  Speaker 8: You know him, you love him, Host of lockdown.
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  Speaker 9: Saints of course does big things here for us losing
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  Speaker 9: sports dot Net Ross, what's going on?
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  Speaker 8: Man? How you doing? Are really glad to be there?
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  Speaker 8: Ex Man?
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  Speaker 9: You know, it's a time of the year where you
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  Speaker 9: get excited about certain players, but then you start to
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  Speaker 9: question certain players. It's like mini camp season, right, It's
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  Speaker 9: like you fall in love with these guys that aren't
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  Speaker 9: even going to be there in September, and then like
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  Speaker 9: you hate on these guys and it's like the guys
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  Speaker 9: that the Saints are counting on the most. Like it's
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  Speaker 9: one of my favorite times of the year to talk INFL,
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  Speaker 9: just because there's so much unknown already. Like, no matter
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  Speaker 9: what team you're talking about or else, with this Saints team,
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  Speaker 9: they might have the most unknown of any team in
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  Speaker 9: the NFL.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, dude, they are one of the big mysteries of
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  Speaker 10: the league right now. And that's for certain. I mean
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  Speaker 10: everything down to you obviously, like who the starting quarterback
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  Speaker 10: is going to be is the course of history. But
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  Speaker 10: first year head coach, first year defensive coordinator in New Orleans,
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  Speaker 10: at least you have a lot of turnover. You have
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  Speaker 10: offensive system changing, defensive system changing. There's so many big
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  Speaker 10: question marks around this team, not all of which bad,
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  Speaker 10: right It's not question marks like, oh, are they going
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  Speaker 10: to be able to do this? They can do that,
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  Speaker 10: though there are those things. It's a lot of question
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  Speaker 10: marks that also just center around what does this team
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  Speaker 10: look like, what is their new identity, and who are
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  Speaker 10: they as they move ahead? So makes them a big
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  Speaker 10: mystery this year in terms of, you know, trying to
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  Speaker 10: predict or project where it thinks you're.
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  Speaker 3: Going to go for.
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  Speaker 4: Give me sure reaction you run up quarterbacks. So that's
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  Speaker 4: what I'm always going to lean to first and foremost
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  Speaker 4: because it's the it's the you know, hardest position to
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  Speaker 4: play in all of sports, it's the most important position
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  Speaker 4: to play. And there's a bona fide QB competition right now.
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  Speaker 4: And we know both quarterbacks have had their moments where
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  Speaker 4: they've looked good, and we we hear that that's been
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  Speaker 4: really efficient at practice. So I'm always kind of curious
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  Speaker 4: as to which one of these guys has, like, is
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  Speaker 4: has anybody stepped in front as somebody that has looked
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  Speaker 4: like he's taken charge of the offense, taking charge of
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  Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, looks more in control right now.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you would usually.
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  Speaker 4: Side with the guy that's been there the longest that
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  Speaker 4: that happens, but you know, Spencer's only been there a year,
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  Speaker 4: so it's not like he's like a season vet or anything.
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  Speaker 4: Is there one guy that stands out that's looked like
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  Speaker 4: he's kind of taken over from like just a verbal standpoint,
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  Speaker 4: from a present standpoint.
• 17:08
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Like I would say, both of these guys have
• 17:11
  Speaker 10: done things really well in those categories, but the one
• 17:14
  Speaker 10: of the two that probably stands out the most there
• 17:16
  Speaker 10: is Spencer Rattler. He's had a year of NFL experience,
• 17:19
  Speaker 10: like you mentioned, which you're right, isn't a lot, but
• 17:22
  Speaker 10: it is a big difference between having a year and
• 17:24
  Speaker 10: not having a year, like that gap I think is
• 17:26
  Speaker 10: bigger than you know, people outside of the game realize,
• 17:29
  Speaker 10: and so I think that that is something that has
• 17:31
  Speaker 10: set Spencer Ratler up pretty well to kind of show
• 17:34
  Speaker 10: out in OTAs and in Mini camp. I have him
• 17:37
  Speaker 10: with fifty nine passing attempts over there, both quarterbacks of
• 17:40
  Speaker 10: fifty nine passing attempts over the course of what we
• 17:42
  Speaker 10: were able to see as media, with him completing forty five.
• 17:44
  Speaker 10: So you see an efficiency there. You see an efficiency
• 17:47
  Speaker 10: in terms of his ability also to just kind of
• 17:50
  Speaker 10: have a more sped up clock, like these guys have
• 17:52
  Speaker 10: not done any eleven on elevens. We should keep that
• 17:54
  Speaker 10: in mind. It's all seven on sevens or nine on seven,
• 17:56
  Speaker 10: so literally every throwing, every passing lane is wide open,
• 18:00
  Speaker 10: all these other things from from a trench's standpoint, But
• 18:04
  Speaker 10: what we haven't seen Spencer Ratler do with a lack
• 18:06
  Speaker 10: of pass rush is get comfortable and hold on to
• 18:09
  Speaker 10: the ball and wait for receivers to make DB's cover
• 18:12
  Speaker 10: two or three routes. He's operated in a take the
• 18:15
  Speaker 10: take the snap, drop back hitch throw like he just
• 18:18
  Speaker 10: has his rhythm. Everything's on time, which is really important
• 18:21
  Speaker 10: for a Kellen Moore offense, which is very much about timing.
• 18:24
  Speaker 10: It's a lot of pre snap designation which kind of
• 18:26
  Speaker 10: tells everybody what needs to be done protection wise, and
• 18:29
  Speaker 10: then in the passing game, it's a timing game. And
• 18:33
  Speaker 10: that's going to be a little bit that's probably going
• 18:34
  Speaker 10: to look a little bit more familiar to what Saints
• 18:37
  Speaker 10: two Saints fans in terms of what they used to
• 18:39
  Speaker 10: watch versus what they've seen in the recent past that
• 18:41
  Speaker 10: I think so far Spencer Ratler has just kind of
• 18:44
  Speaker 10: gotten the timing of the offense pretty well, moves a
• 18:47
  Speaker 10: little bit more efficiently, gets out in and out of
• 18:49
  Speaker 10: the huddle with a little with a little bit more
• 18:52
  Speaker 10: of a sense of urgency, gets through his reads, is
• 18:55
  Speaker 10: using the entire field kind of doing all these things,
• 18:58
  Speaker 10: and he's operating on a clock that he does need
• 19:00
  Speaker 10: to operate on because he has all the time in
• 19:01
  Speaker 10: the world, but he's not, you know, buying into that.
• 19:04
  Speaker 10: And so I would say that those are the reasons
• 19:05
  Speaker 10: why I would say that Spencer Ratler maybe stands out
• 19:07
  Speaker 10: a little bit more in that category, but it is,
• 19:10
  Speaker 10: you know, both of these guys have shown proficiencies in
• 19:12
  Speaker 10: that area for sure.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: I think it's kind of known in the NFL world
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: that the biggest jump for a quarterback, you know, any
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: position really, but specifically at quarterback, the jump from year
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: one to two is the most important. Like it's it's
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: the biggest gap that they cover from year one to two.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: And so if you don't make that jump from one
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: to two, you're never gonna have like it's hard to
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: like make the jump on your three, year, four, five, six, seven,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: whatever whatever. It's going to be so the fact that
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: like Shuck is competing with that and like keeping up
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: with it and making it, keeping up with a guy
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: that is doing that. Like, as Saints fans, you should
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: hope that Spencer Spencer does take that jump that everybody
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: talks about. And so the completion percentage're talking about is great,
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: it's a great stat but just like you said, there's
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: no eleven on eleven, so it's a glorified like playing
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: catch out there. So it's going to be so widely
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: important once they get the pads on, taking the snaps,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: guys hitting around them, all that stuff. But let's talk
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: about the completion percentage. How are they spread, Like the receivers,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: who's kind of stepping up as a two to three receiver?
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: How are the tight ends looking? Who are they feeding
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: the ball to during these practices?
• 20:17
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, look, you're seeing a lot of Krysalova,
• 20:19
  Speaker 10: You're seeing a lot of reshoots, you heat, There's no
• 20:21
  Speaker 10: doubt about that, and that's exactly what you should expect, right, Like,
• 20:23
  Speaker 10: those are the top two guys when it comes to
• 20:25
  Speaker 10: the passing game, all those pieces, and so those guys
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: have been a core focus. But we've also seen this
• 20:31
  Speaker 10: ball move around a lot. You know, tight ends like
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: Michael Jacobson as well as Juwan Johnson and Jack Stall
• 20:37
  Speaker 10: all getting involved. You know, running backs that have completions
• 20:41
  Speaker 10: written down to guys like Alvin Kamara, but have also
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: had completions written down to like Cam Akers. Right, So
• 20:45
  Speaker 10: some stuff you know happening out of the backfield. There
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: Clydewards layer as well, And so we're seeing sort of
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: all three of the core positions wide receiver, tight end,
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: and running back. When it comes to pass catching, we're
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: seeing really all three of those areas getting opportunit. And
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: one of the reasons why I were receiving that is because,
• 21:02
  Speaker 10: like if you look earlier on during OTAs, we saw
• 21:05
  Speaker 10: a lot of downfields, you know, they were pushing the
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: ball downfield and know these other things. But then when
• 21:09
  Speaker 10: they got into mini camps, Kellen Moore kind of split
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: the script on them and had them working on situations,
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: so third and short, first and ten second and long
• 21:17
  Speaker 10: all these other kinds of things. And so you were
• 21:20
  Speaker 10: asked in that case as a quarterback to go out
• 21:24
  Speaker 10: there and do what makes sense. So it wasn't always
• 21:27
  Speaker 10: push it down the field or hit the intermediate area
• 21:30
  Speaker 10: or try to make the big play, try to stand
• 21:31
  Speaker 10: out in front of the fans that were in attendance,
• 21:34
  Speaker 10: which could have really driven these guys to want to
• 21:35
  Speaker 10: show out maybe a little bit more to you know,
• 21:37
  Speaker 10: hype the energy up whatever. And instead it was third
• 21:42
  Speaker 10: and three and you know, you have a checkdown available
• 21:45
  Speaker 10: behind a lot of scrimmage that can get three yards
• 21:47
  Speaker 10: after the catch to get to a first down. You
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: take that. It's second and five. You have an opportunity
• 21:52
  Speaker 10: to complete a slant for you know, three to five
• 21:55
  Speaker 10: yards and live for a third down. You take that.
• 21:58
  Speaker 10: And so we saw them also kind of work them
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: through decision making with situational context. And I think that's
• 22:04
  Speaker 10: another place where you kind of saw these guys stand
• 22:06
  Speaker 10: out quite a bit, is that they didn't buy into
• 22:08
  Speaker 10: the idea of pushing the ball down the field and
• 22:10
  Speaker 10: trying to generate that excitement. They instead bought into the
• 22:12
  Speaker 10: idea of making the thirds that win football games. And
• 22:14
  Speaker 10: I think that was a really smart move by Kellen
• 22:17
  Speaker 10: Moore to kind of throttle them down to that point,
• 22:20
  Speaker 10: even in those seven on sevens or nine on sevens,
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: just kind of makes them think about an extra thing
• 22:24
  Speaker 10: and kind of see how they operated in that context.
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: All right, so any young quarterback orross is going to
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: want to be able to turn around and hand it
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: off to a strong running game, strong running back behind
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: a strong offensive line. I want to go to running
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: back because that's going to take a lot of pressure
• 22:39
  Speaker 9: off whoever the starting quarterback is.
• 22:41
  Speaker 8: We know Ak is going to be the lead back.
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: But you've made some moves.
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: You've drafted running backs, You've signed veteran running backs in
• 22:48
  Speaker 9: Clyde Edwards, d Lair, you signed Cam.
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: Akers the other day. What does that position look like
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: for you?
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: Certainly behind Ak, because they're going to need more than
• 22:57
  Speaker 9: just one guys we've seen over the last couple of years,
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: and they brought in a lot of different guys with
• 23:01
  Speaker 9: a lot of different experience.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:04
  Speaker 10: I mean there's eight different running backs I think in
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: the room right now if I'm counting correctly. And they
• 23:11
  Speaker 10: brought them in from the draft, undrafted, free agency, from
• 23:14
  Speaker 10: free agency guys that they retained as well, And so
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: they have a really eclectic group here. You know, kind
• 23:19
  Speaker 10: of smaller guys that are willing, that can run really well.
• 23:23
  Speaker 10: They have the one cut guys like Kendre Miller, and
• 23:26
  Speaker 10: Devin Neil. They have the veteran guys like Clyde Ridge
• 23:30
  Speaker 10: Laire and Cam Akers and Bayless Jones Junior who has
• 23:32
  Speaker 10: some versatility to his game. Like, they have a big,
• 23:34
  Speaker 10: kind of very eclectic group of these running backs. So
• 23:37
  Speaker 10: I'm really interested to see where things go. The logic says, Okay,
• 23:41
  Speaker 10: you have Alvin Kamara who has this incredible ability still
• 23:45
  Speaker 10: going into year nine in space and doing all the
• 23:49
  Speaker 10: things that he does, you know, outside of the tackles
• 23:52
  Speaker 10: and in the receiving game and all this stuff. So
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: then the logic feels like, okay, so who's going to
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: be kind of the between the tackles bruiser. If that's
• 23:59
  Speaker 10: the way that the go, then I think that's where
• 24:01
  Speaker 10: guys like Handmakers, Ken dre Miller. I would even throw
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: Claude Rizilier in there. That's kind of where those guys
• 24:06
  Speaker 10: come in. Devin Neil as well. And then you're looking
• 24:10
  Speaker 10: for a kind of a complimentary third piece. So it's
• 24:12
  Speaker 10: going to be a pretty major competition here. And keep
• 24:14
  Speaker 10: in mind too, the same kind of second tier rusher
• 24:18
  Speaker 10: that they've really leaned on for a long time, and
• 24:21
  Speaker 10: for many many years, it's been Taysom Hill not even
• 24:23
  Speaker 10: a running back right, but he might not be available
• 24:26
  Speaker 10: at the beginning of the season. We'll see where things
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: are for him from a health standpoint. But if they
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: have to be without him, and they are really going
• 24:33
  Speaker 10: to have to make sure that they're getting production in
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: the run game from another player not named Alvin Kamara,
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: they won't. They might not have Taysom Hill to fall
• 24:41
  Speaker 10: back on. And so whoever these running backs are that
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: end up making the roster, I think a guy like
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: Devin Neil feels like a clear, you know, possibility, as
• 24:49
  Speaker 10: he was drafted by this organization. Ken dre Miller has
• 24:52
  Speaker 10: been around for a couple of years, and so you know,
• 24:54
  Speaker 10: those are the names that probably stand out. But really,
• 24:56
  Speaker 10: any of these guys have a wide open path to
• 24:58
  Speaker 10: making the roster based on what it is that he
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: can do, and whoever gets those opportunities don't need to
• 25:03
  Speaker 10: make the most of them because the Saints are not
• 25:05
  Speaker 10: going to have Taysom Hill to fall back on, likely
• 25:08
  Speaker 10: early on in the season, in order to be able
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: to compliment that run game.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Ross, Let's look to the other side of the
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: ball here on defense and new defensive coordinator Brandon Staley
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: comes in taking over installing new defenses, new defensive schemes.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: So the Saints in the past, have you kind of
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: always run like the Dennis Allen type of defense where
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: it's a little it's a little tricky, it's a little
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: off pace for quarterbacks. They used to do a lot
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: of two inverts and two fire zones, like some different situations.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: But what have you seen.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: I know it's hard when we don't have pads on
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: we're not doing eleven on eleven. But what do you
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: expect to see from the defense schematically? Is a lot
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: of one high two highs. Have they been shown anything?
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: Is what percentage pressure situations as a high high pressure guy.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Have they shown any of that?
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 25:54
  Speaker 10: I think I would expect just looking back at Brandon
• 25:57
  Speaker 10: Staley's track record, probably some middle of field closed type
• 26:01
  Speaker 10: of defenses, so cover one, cover three, things like that
• 26:04
  Speaker 10: that kind of populate the middle of the field and
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: then force you know, quarterbacks to look to the perimeter.
• 26:09
  Speaker 10: But it's interesting because the NFL has really gone to
• 26:12
  Speaker 10: kind of too high split safety looks as a means
• 26:15
  Speaker 10: of trying to take away the big explosive plays and
• 26:18
  Speaker 10: kind of force the run game. So we're watching offenses
• 26:20
  Speaker 10: get bigger, more two tight ends, that's more two running
• 26:22
  Speaker 10: back sets, because that's a that's a way to counter
• 26:25
  Speaker 10: the Okay, you're going to take away the big play
• 26:27
  Speaker 10: over the top, but now you're light in the box,
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: let me go ahead and attack that. And so I
• 26:31
  Speaker 10: think you're going to see a little bit of everything
• 26:33
  Speaker 10: when it comes to Brandon Saley's defense. But I think
• 26:35
  Speaker 10: that you'll notice as a big change from what Brent,
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: what Dennis Allen used to do. It's kind of a
• 26:42
  Speaker 10: transition from sort of the pressman back to the quarterback
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: eyes on the route runner type of scheme to a
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: more zone match pattern matching eyes in the backfield kind
• 26:55
  Speaker 10: of coverage. And that's going to open up. And I've
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: talked to a lot of the defensive players that'll be
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: impacted by that, and they a lot of them feel
• 27:02
  Speaker 10: that it's going to open them up to go out
• 27:04
  Speaker 10: there and make more plays like the Saints had I
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: think it was eleven interceptions over the course of the
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: first nine or so games, and then they had only
• 27:11
  Speaker 10: three interceptions for the rest of the way throughout the
• 27:14
  Speaker 10: rest of the season. And so this is the secondary
• 27:17
  Speaker 10: that's hungry to go out there and make plays. And
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: a lot of those members believe that what Brandon Staley's
• 27:24
  Speaker 10: defense will do with allowing them to keep their eyes
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: in the backfield should allow them to be able to
• 27:27
  Speaker 10: kind of do that. Read the quarterback's eyes. Go out there,
• 27:30
  Speaker 10: be attacking, be aggressive, and go try to make plays
• 27:32
  Speaker 10: on the football. I think the other changes that you're
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: going to see are the ones that you know, we've
• 27:37
  Speaker 10: been talked about quite a bit with stand up pass
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: rushers and things like that, taking advantage of athleticism and speed.
• 27:41
  Speaker 10: But I do think that those eyes in the backfield
• 27:44
  Speaker 10: could help the Saints with another big thing that they've
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: troubled with over the course of the past few years,
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: and that's the mobile quarterback. It's a big difference when
• 27:51
  Speaker 10: you have your back turned and that quarterback starts to
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: run versus when the entire team or you know, a
• 27:56
  Speaker 10: majority of the team has their eyes on the quarterback
• 27:59
  Speaker 10: on them already of STAPs where they can maybe react
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: and try to go and make some place in that
• 28:03
  Speaker 10: area too. So I think that's a couple of places
• 28:05
  Speaker 10: where you'll see some differences.
• 28:07
  Speaker 9: Last one, Rawson, we always do appreciate the time catching
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: up with Ross Jackson here on OTB. We've talked a
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: lot about so many different players, so many drafted guys
• 28:16
  Speaker 9: over the last couple of years, that we expect big
• 28:18
  Speaker 9: things on this team.
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: But I do.
• 28:20
  Speaker 9: Feel like a guy that still is not a part
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: of the conversation at least like on the airways sometimes
• 28:25
  Speaker 9: is kol a McKinstry and you traded you know for him,
• 28:28
  Speaker 9: Like there's the guy you moved up in the draft
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: for just a year ago. What is his role? How
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: impactful is he going to be? Because like with the
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: assets you use and anytime you seck somebody in the
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: second round, like that's got to be like a day
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: one starter. His rookie year was okay, But what should
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: we expect to see from kool Aid?
• 28:47
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think you can expect good play from kool
• 28:50
  Speaker 10: Aid and continued improvement from where he was last year.
• 28:54
  Speaker 10: If you look at his season towards the end of
• 28:56
  Speaker 10: last year, it just got better and better and better.
• 28:58
  Speaker 10: Those last three games up against the I'm not going
• 29:02
  Speaker 10: to try to do that the last three games of
• 29:04
  Speaker 10: the year. You know, he was targeted over ten times
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: and allowed you know, fewer than I think it was
• 29:09
  Speaker 10: around five catches and things like that, and so you know,
• 29:12
  Speaker 10: you kind of saw his game kind of step into
• 29:14
  Speaker 10: the next next phase there, and he's looked out standing
• 29:17
  Speaker 10: in Mini camp as well as NNTA has been one
• 29:20
  Speaker 10: of the standout performers coming out of the off season programs,
• 29:24
  Speaker 10: and so I think he's going to be a guy
• 29:26
  Speaker 10: that's going to be tasked with oftentimes being sort of
• 29:28
  Speaker 10: the quote unquote cornerback one, which doesn't always mean that
• 29:32
  Speaker 10: he's going to be lined up across the best receiver
• 29:35
  Speaker 10: because they're going to move receivers in and out of
• 29:37
  Speaker 10: the slot things like that, so that'll kind of change
• 29:38
  Speaker 10: a little bit of what those coverage asignments are. But
• 29:41
  Speaker 10: I assume that he will be the number one guy
• 29:44
  Speaker 10: for this team at corner. He's been really disruptive at
• 29:46
  Speaker 10: the catch point. He's super sound fundamentally, which makes him
• 29:49
  Speaker 10: a coaches dream as well because he's not having to
• 29:52
  Speaker 10: rely on just raw talent. The raw talent adds to
• 29:56
  Speaker 10: what he does well from a foundational standpoint, and then
• 29:58
  Speaker 10: he can build upon that. So I think he'll continue
• 30:01
  Speaker 10: to get better, especially as there's more time for him
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: as well as when there's a pass rush introduced that
• 30:06
  Speaker 10: should help him out quite a bit too. And so
• 30:08
  Speaker 10: I think we've seen some good things for him, but
• 30:10
  Speaker 10: I think good thing like more are on the way.
• 30:12
  Speaker 10: When it comes to cool they begin trim really interested
• 30:15
  Speaker 10: and excited to see his twenty twenty five season.
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: All right, he's our guy, Ross Jackson, Louisiana Sports dot Net,
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: always putting out great articles on the New Orleans Saints
• 30:24
  Speaker 9: and keeping you.
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: Up to date.
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: Ross.
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: We appreciate the time as always, sir, look forward to
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: our next conversation.
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: Absolutely, guys, thanks so much. Appreciate you all, take care
• 30:32
  Speaker 10: of stay safe, and I'll talk to you all right again.
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: Ross Jackson.
• 30:35
  Speaker 9: Nobody nobody's locked in no pun intended because he hosted
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: Locked On Saints podcast, but always locked in, always ready
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: to go.
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: So appreciate his time.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: I like it, Savenus of the defensive schemes too. Yeah,
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be fun to get into.
• 30:48
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he is like he is somebody that him and
• 30:51
  Speaker 9: Nick Underhill both like great assets for us to be
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: able to have here on OTV because they can actually
• 30:55
  Speaker 9: talk about some of the things that.
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: We can out that we want to talk about all times.
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: We'll start talking about them. We're like, hold up, wait
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: a minute, do they know what that is?
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: Those two guys certainly are gonna be able to have
• 31:07
  Speaker 9: those conversations. All right, we'll take a break to close
• 31:10
  Speaker 9: out today's show. I think we're going to call Alandra
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: and get her on the line, get an update on
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: UH on the road trip, see how things are going,
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: seeing if if they went the right direction, all those
• 31:22
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  Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off the
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  Speaker 8: Welcome back again. Oh t me h.
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  Speaker 9: I got a little you know he did when I
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  Speaker 9: saw the tight ends on this quarter century NFL team.
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  Speaker 9: There's a couple of positions like linea linebacker, linebackers, tough.
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  Speaker 8: No list is perfect. You're right about that.
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  Speaker 9: Tony Gonzalez, Travis Kelce, and Rob Grinkowski. The tight ends.
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  Speaker 9: Antonio Gates obviously a teammate of mind. So I'm gonna,
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  Speaker 9: you know, be biasing the answer. But three time First
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  Speaker 9: Team All Pro, most touchdowns ever by a tight end,
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  Speaker 9: almost twelve thousand career receiving yards, almost a thousand career catches,
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  Speaker 9: played sixteen NFL seasons for one team.
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  Speaker 8: That's that's pretty telling as well.
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  Speaker 4: I think you could probably agree with Gronk and Tony Gonzalez, right,
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  Speaker 4: Gronk for sure.
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  Speaker 8: For sure, Gronk for sure. I think Gronk might be
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  Speaker 8: the best ever end.
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  Speaker 9: I still have Gates a little bit ahead of Tony
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  Speaker 9: Gonzalez when you put up their stats next to each other.
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  Speaker 9: I just think it's a very close argument. I could
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  Speaker 9: listen to either one. I think there's more things. There's
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  Speaker 9: more routes that Gates could run. Tony certainly had a
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  Speaker 9: couple of his repertoire that he ran at an elite level,
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  Speaker 9: where I think Gates could he could do some receiver things.
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  Speaker 4: When you on that list, like the guys you're talking
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  Speaker 4: that we talked about that they can they could translate
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  Speaker 4: to any offense. Travis Kelcey's great in his own right,
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  Speaker 4: but it's also kind of probably a product of that offense.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, but this is just our opinions up here.
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  Speaker 4: He's probably probably he's not the best blocker in the world.
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  Speaker 6: That's what saying, Like you have to define the tight
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  Speaker 6: end position like Kelsey is essentially just a big receiver.
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  Speaker 6: He's not a great blocker, Like if you want to
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  Speaker 6: go tight end, like George kittles on much better all
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we're we're looking at this list, we're
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  Speaker 4: breaking it down. I'm choosing George Kittle over Travis Kelcey. Yes,
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: every day, all day. Dude's a freak.
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  Speaker 8: George Kittle is the most complete in the NFL. He's
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  Speaker 8: a mawler on the line.
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  Speaker 4: He is.
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  Speaker 8: He's not like a willing blocker like he's dude at it.
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  Speaker 3: Ye. Yeah, he's fun to watch. He's electric.
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  Speaker 4: He can he can beat you on a corner route
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  Speaker 4: or a go route or a crossing route, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 4: But it will also drive you in the dirt and
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  Speaker 4: talk about it to let you know about it with
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: a smile on his face, which is pretty psychopathist in.
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  Speaker 8: A good way.
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  Speaker 4: But a lot of people in the chat talking out,
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  Speaker 4: they're bringing up Jimmy Graham. Okay, Jimmy Graham in his
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  Speaker 4: own right for sure, great for the Saints of Saints legend.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a top ten guy.
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  Speaker 4: Been fortunate enough to hang with Jimmy quite a bit
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  Speaker 4: the last couple of years through our relationship. We weren't
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  Speaker 4: so we didn't cross paths and we weren't teammates when
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  Speaker 4: I was with the Saints for a little bit. He
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  Speaker 4: came back after thatwks like never.
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  Speaker 3: No ever, no, So yeah, we high five on the
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  Speaker 3: way way in.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: But I've got to know him the last couple of
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  Speaker 4: years just from what we take a guys trip every
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  Speaker 4: year with some some former players, and uh, it kind
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  Speaker 4: of brought it up.
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  Speaker 3: He is about to embark.
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• 35:59
  Speaker 4: y'all't know, like Jimmy Backstore. He is one of the
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: most like impressive humans, like Renaissance Man. He's a pilot,
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  Speaker 4: he flies planes, jets, helicopters, he navigates weather, he's a cyclist.
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  Speaker 4: He does all this crazy stuff. So he's a part
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: of what's called the the Arctic Challenge, where basically they're
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: gonna get on a canoe a team of four, unaccompanied
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  Speaker 4: by any like safety vessels or anything like that, and
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: they're gonna just row across the Arctic Ocean what I
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: don't know if you've ever heard of that ocean.
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  Speaker 7: So they're just gonna run dangerous.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's all for a good calls like bringing
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  Speaker 4: awareness of charity and like you know, challenging people to
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  Speaker 4: push themselves, pushing their body.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a team.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: So it's Jimmy gram so X NFL player, Navy Seals
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  Speaker 4: and rowers.
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  Speaker 3: From like Team USA. So they've been training for like
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  Speaker 4: I think they've done a lot of rowing and stuff
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  Speaker 4: on on like poncha train. Yeah, so they're doing they're
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: doing all sorts of stuff. So you know, Jimmy Hops
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  Speaker 4: it's an impressive dude, renaissance man, and like go look
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: it up, like go see like this, you could see
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: it online. The canoe that they're I call it a canoe,
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  Speaker 4: that's not what it is, but it's a it's a
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  Speaker 4: rowing boat machine.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah. We didn't go to the Ivy League. We don't
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think it's like there, it's like two
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: hours on, two hours off, two hours of rowing and
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: then you get two hours ago, like take a little rest,
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  Speaker 3: Get it. They got like a little cabin. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know how Jimmy's gonna fit in this thame.
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  Speaker 4: He's a big human. But yeah, dude, it's really cool.
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  Speaker 5: How to track weather, the pressures, the fronts and everything
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  Speaker 4: So they're gonna have to like he's gonna be doing
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  Speaker 4: like the weather making sure they're not like going into
• 37:52
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  Speaker 8: Right yeah, yeah, pretty well, Jimmy's not a meat head.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, definitely not.
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  Speaker 9: Look and I'm not saying that, you know, meatheads can't
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  Speaker 9: do things like that, but that feels like a step
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  Speaker 9: above a meathead.
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  Speaker 8: Uh you know.
• 38:09
  Speaker 9: Bobby Carpenter is a professor of finance at the Ohio
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  Speaker 9: State University. But that feels like the ceiling for a meathead.
• 38:16
  Speaker 9: But when you're like leading into the ocean like this,
• 38:18
  Speaker 9: it feels like yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like the you know, the safety of the
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  Speaker 3: vessel and.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: The crew kind of kind of depends on you know,
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: there's some weather up ahead, right, Well, yeah, so I
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  Speaker 4: think it's a thousand kilometers, are going six hundred miles
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  Speaker 4: something like that? What six hundred miles?
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: A believe? Yeah, it's artic Cohan, guys.
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  Speaker 7: Six man, this is this is this is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see.
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  Speaker 4: The Arctic Challenge is a six hundred mile record setting
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  Speaker 3: How about that?
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  Speaker 7: All right, I man, shout out, Jimmy, Jimmy Grant, get
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  Speaker 7: it done.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go.
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  Speaker 7: I'll be watching from the warmth of my house.
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  Speaker 9: So it's gonna be so yeah, Oh all right. We're
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• 39:26
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  Speaker 2: I think we're headed in the right direction. It says north,
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  Speaker 9: All right, Well, how's it been like? How How is
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  Speaker 9: that I was quoting there. How's the trip been so far?
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  Speaker 9: Where did we stop? What time did we get back
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  Speaker 9: up and start to drive again?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was like nine hours of just being
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  Speaker 2: So Bentonville. And then we stopped there last night and
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  Speaker 2: we just got back on the road like at nine.
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  Speaker 2: So we're gonna stop in. I keep seeing Saint Louis,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: but it's Kansas City.
• 42:47
  Speaker 9: Well there's two Kansas City's. I mean the Kansas side
• 42:49
  Speaker 9: the Missouri side. That does get confusing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's Kansas Okay. Also, Matt, happy birthday, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a place called Joe's Barbecue that we're going
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  Speaker 2: I can see what that's about. Yeah, but about six
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  Speaker 2: hours from Omaha right now, we're very excited.
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  Speaker 4: So once you let's say you'll drive, you'll cross the
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  Speaker 2: So we're gonna do some bar hopping, for sure, go
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• 43:33
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  Speaker 9: So one thing we always know about, like Omaha wants
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  Speaker 8: How many have we seen on the road?
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  Speaker 9: Have we seen anybody with like LSU flags or anything
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  Speaker 9: on the.
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  Speaker 2: So I surprisingly have not seen like any LSU fans
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  Speaker 9: Well, that's the only way that you can do that
• 44:47
  Speaker 9: is rivers pulling for LSU or Coastal Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: So she's been very neutral, but her nails are yellow. Okay,
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