Latest / Kvetch & Release / 610 CKTB | Grit vs. Spectacle: How Geography Shaped Windsor & Niagara
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Lid Key has a take good morning, Gene.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Hey, John, you told me that today, the tenth of
- 0:06Speaker 2: July is a day of historic humiliation, humiliation for a
- 0:13Speaker 2: town near Toronto, and apparently it's all Windsor's fault. Okay,
- 0:16Speaker 2: So what did Windsor do to the poor people of
- 0:19Speaker 2: Whitby back of all years eighteen forty seven on today's date,
- 0:25Speaker 2: July tenth?
- 0:27Speaker 1: Okay, let me set the scene for you, Gene. So
- 0:29Speaker 1: it's the muddy shores of Lake Ontario. It was a
- 0:32Speaker 1: fledging settlement that's standing proud, the timber buildings, relatively new,
- 0:36Speaker 1: industrious people. They had a brand new post office standing
- 0:39Speaker 1: at the center of town. But something was wrong. Deep
- 0:42Speaker 1: in the wilteredness. A phantom was haunting their mailbags. You see.
- 0:46Speaker 1: An early landlowner named John Scatting. He christened the village
- 0:49Speaker 1: Windsor after his grand estate back in England. But down
- 0:53Speaker 1: here by Detroit, my Windsor was already growing at an
- 0:57Speaker 1: incredible speed and absolutely dominating them maps, and the nineteenth
- 1:01Speaker 1: century postal service just completely threw up its hands in defeat.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Month after month, the pioneers in Windsor Whitby would gather
- 1:10Speaker 1: at the post office, only to find that their critical
- 1:12Speaker 1: business deeds, their shipping manifests, and even their scandalous, ink
- 1:15Speaker 1: stained romantic love letters were vanished. They were hijacked by
- 1:19Speaker 1: the geography of the Deep South, and they were sent
- 1:21Speaker 1: straight to our docks down here in Windsor, across from Detroit.
- 1:25Speaker 1: So on July tenth of eighteen forty seven, the madness
- 1:27Speaker 1: reached a boiling point. A crowd of furious mail deprived
- 1:30Speaker 1: citizens all packed tightly into the smoke filled quarters of
- 1:33Speaker 1: the scriptures in the tavern with tankards of ail in hand.
- 1:37Speaker 1: They wept, they raged, and they completely surrendered to my
- 1:40Speaker 1: Windsor's geographic dominance. They voted to strip away their own identity.
- 1:45Speaker 1: They voted to rebrand their town as Whitby instead, just
- 1:49Speaker 1: so they could finally get their newspapers on time to
- 1:51Speaker 1: check the lottery numbers. Imagine being so powerful down here
- 1:55Speaker 1: in Windsor, Ontario that you were able to force a
- 1:57Speaker 1: down four hundred kilometers away to hold the Tburn Summit
- 2:01Speaker 1: just to escape our shadow. Windsor has not been as
- 2:04Speaker 1: strong ever since.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Okay, I've never heard the story before. So Windsor stole
- 2:11Speaker 2: a town's identity and their mail in eighteen forty seven.
- 2:15Speaker 1: But we didn't steal it. We just outgrew them.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Okay, but I hear you of the theory that the
- 2:22Speaker 2: ghosts of those pioneers are getting the revenge on Windsor.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Oh, it's a spiritual curse, Geene. There's no other explanation.
- 2:29Speaker 1: So yeah, we grew faster than them taking their namesake,
- 2:33Speaker 1: I suppose, and now they're taking our mail. Think about
- 2:36Speaker 1: this ever since Canada Post closed our local Windsor storting
- 2:39Speaker 1: facility a few years back. If you mail a letter
- 2:43Speaker 1: in Windsor to another Windsor address, it doesn't just go
- 2:46Speaker 1: down the street. It gets loaded onto a truck driven
- 2:49Speaker 1: two hundred kilometers up the four to oh one to London,
- 2:52Speaker 1: sordid processed, put back on a truck driven two hundred
- 2:54Speaker 1: kilometers back down to Windsor. This is the most passive, aggressive,
- 2:58Speaker 1: dastardly Canadian revenge plot. We still get our mail down here,
- 3:02Speaker 1: it's just taking weeks to travel a massive loop, which
- 3:05Speaker 1: is exactly what we did to those poor Whitby pioneers
- 3:07Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty years ago. The universe is balancing
- 3:11Speaker 1: the scales, Gene.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Okay, So you're talking to me, I'm in Niagara, where
- 3:16Speaker 2: it's officially by the way Nikola Tesla day. Now you've
- 3:20Speaker 2: mentioned we have a bit of a little Brothers syndrome
- 3:23Speaker 2: because we love extreme spectacles and dangerous stunts to compete
- 3:27Speaker 2: with Toronto. Are you saying that Windsor is superiors to us?
- 3:32Speaker 1: Oh, I wouldn't say that. I say this all with love, Gene,
- 3:34Speaker 1: but look at your track record there. Niagara has always
- 3:37Speaker 1: been completely obsessed with dangerous, extreme spectacles, from daredevils and
- 3:42Speaker 1: barrels over the falls to there was that time that
- 3:45Speaker 1: you almost incinerated the future King of England, Prince Albert Edward,
- 3:48Speaker 1: with chemical flares on a wooden platform back in eighteen sixty.
- 3:52Speaker 1: I mean, the falls themselves are this roaring natural marvel
- 3:55Speaker 1: that forces everyone around them that chase greatness. But I
- 3:58Speaker 1: think that being so close to Toronto does give you
- 4:01Speaker 1: a little bit of a little brother syndrome where you're
- 4:03Speaker 1: constantly screaming look at me. We don't have that in ourselves, Gene.
- 4:09Speaker 1: We don't care about impressing Toronto, and we know that
- 4:12Speaker 1: we can't compete with Detroit, so we're perfectly content sitting
- 4:16Speaker 1: down here at the end of the four oh one
- 4:17Speaker 1: hanging out with Detroit, being completely alone in our little
- 4:21Speaker 1: end of the corner of the province. We don't need
- 4:23Speaker 1: giant like shows like the Falls. We're just content building
- 4:26Speaker 1: our cars and complaining about the provincial and national capitals.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Okay, so Windsor is content just being alone at the
- 4:33Speaker 2: end of the four to one. But let's look at
- 4:36Speaker 2: the contrast between our regions. Why do you think that
- 4:39Speaker 2: Windsor became so focused on practical border town grit. Well,
- 4:43Speaker 2: we here in Niagara went the root of trying to
- 4:45Speaker 2: capture lightning in a bottle.
- 4:48Speaker 1: I think it comes down to geography and destiny. Our
- 4:51Speaker 1: identity was forged out of sheer survival logistics manufacturing. We
- 4:56Speaker 1: became the ultimate border gateway, the underground railroad US, and
- 5:00Speaker 1: the automotive heart of the country because our relationship is
- 5:03Speaker 1: with the midwestern muscle of Detroit and the Midwest Michigan,
- 5:07Speaker 1: Midwestern United States. I mean we deal in iron, steel
- 5:10Speaker 1: and horsepower. Niagara it was a different beast just by nature,
- 5:14Speaker 1: you're handed a different hand of cards. Excuse me, when
- 5:19Speaker 1: you live next to one of the wonders of the world,
- 5:20Speaker 1: your entire economy and culture become about capturing awe, so
- 5:25Speaker 1: Windsor was about the practical grid of moving the world,
- 5:27Speaker 1: and Niagara's destiny was always trying to capture lightning in
- 5:31Speaker 1: a bottle. You guys cater to the imagination, and I
- 5:34Speaker 1: think that's incredible. It's beautiful and look at what it's
- 5:37Speaker 1: yielded all you guys. I mean, you've got one of
- 5:39Speaker 1: the most incredible regions in the country.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Now you hit on something interesting about today. Being Nikola
- 5:47Speaker 2: Tesla day, he was a total outsider. Why do you
- 5:50Speaker 2: think I took a foreigner Tesla to come to the
- 5:53Speaker 2: Niagara Peninsula to actually ignore red tape and build the
- 5:57Speaker 2: modern electrical grid. Well, let's face the Canadian history is
- 6:02Speaker 2: full of committees.
- 6:04Speaker 1: I mean, this is the thing, right, I mean, this
- 6:06Speaker 1: is this is peak outsider coming into North America with
- 6:11Speaker 1: a completely different mind sake. When Tesla came to America,
- 6:16Speaker 1: he had a signed letter from the European Edison Company,
- 6:19Speaker 1: Thomas and Thomas Edison's company that said, hey, this guy's
- 6:22Speaker 1: pretty good. He got over to America, showed the letter
- 6:25Speaker 1: to Edison and Edison and said, hey, if you want
- 6:28Speaker 1: to come work for me, you have to abandon your
- 6:29Speaker 1: crazy hairbrain scheme about alternating current. And you know, he
- 6:34Speaker 1: worked from for a year and then he quit the job.
- 6:36Speaker 1: He went and worked with Westinghouse and the rest is history.
- 6:39Speaker 1: But if a local committee had been left in charge
- 6:41Speaker 1: to harnessing Niagara Falls, we'd still be waiting on environmental
- 6:44Speaker 1: assessments today, Jean, I mean, the public consultants would be
- 6:46Speaker 1: raking up the bills. But I mean, look at Saint Catharines.
- 6:49Speaker 1: You guys had an incredible streetcar system built in nineteen
- 6:53Speaker 1: twenty four, but the whole thing was paralyzed because the
- 6:55Speaker 1: city and the transit company spent years arguing who was
- 6:58Speaker 1: responsible to pour the Ashville. So I mean, we can't
- 7:01Speaker 1: allow zoning committees to strangle the future. Which is why
- 7:04Speaker 1: it took someone like Tesla to show up with a
- 7:06Speaker 1: childhood dream of looking at the Niagara Falls on a
- 7:09Speaker 1: postcard and thinking, why don't I put a giant wheel
- 7:12Speaker 1: under that thing. He completely ignored the colonial form and
- 7:16Speaker 1: triplicate mentality, and even the American idea of trying to
- 7:21Speaker 1: pull together alliances, and he just built it. He understood
- 7:24Speaker 1: what we always seem to forget here, which is that
- 7:26Speaker 1: it's infinitely better to innovate first, shoot the lightning bolts,
- 7:30Speaker 1: and then beg for forgiveness from the bureaucrats later.
- 7:33Speaker 2: We're right. So final question. So here we are July tenth,
- 7:37Speaker 2: the big anniversary. So your final take. What's the ultimate
- 7:40Speaker 2: lesson here for Ontario? How do we stop waiting for permission,
- 7:44Speaker 2: get past the red tape, and finally just build the wheel.
- 7:49Speaker 1: I think the lesson is that we need to stop
- 7:50Speaker 1: being so deeply paternalistic and waiting for permission. I mean,
- 7:55Speaker 1: we've got the grit in both Windsor and Niagara, We've
- 7:58Speaker 1: got the raw power in both of our aras, but
- 8:00Speaker 1: as Canadians were terrified of making moves until someone in
- 8:03Speaker 1: a capital city gives us a rubber stamp telling us
- 8:06Speaker 1: that it's okay to do something. Tesla is a massive
- 8:09Speaker 1: point of pride up in your region. You've got a
- 8:12Speaker 1: monument to him at Boulevard at Plaza, But lighting up
- 8:15Speaker 1: the falls isn't enough. If we really want to honor
- 8:18Speaker 1: that spirit today, we've got to stop setting up these committees.
- 8:21Speaker 1: We've got to stop letting transit systems get bogged down
- 8:24Speaker 1: by petty disputes and have grander vision. We need to
- 8:27Speaker 1: start channeling bold, unapologetic imagination, the likes of which Tesla
- 8:32Speaker 1: brought from across the ocean. So let's stop filling out
- 8:35Speaker 1: the forums, let's drop the red tape, and let's just
- 8:38Speaker 1: finally build the darn wheel. Geene.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Yeah, and the wheel right now are two oil pipelines.
- 8:45Speaker 2: Another great take, Thank you so much. The rimo is
- 8:50Speaker 2: John Litkey. He always has a take and they're always fascinating.