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107. [Virginia] Hannah Graham and Morgan Harrington · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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Mayby one. Welcome to Blessed Dismester of the True Crump Podcast. I don't
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care here, what's to say? Hasty? All right, So we're back.
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We're going to Virginia, and we apologize for our absence as you probably
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meant as you As it's been mentioned on previous episodes. We are moving and
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I'm traveling a lot for my new job. It's same company, but new
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job role, and so I'm gone even more leading up to this move.
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Who are you what? I don't know who you are. It's showing up
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at my house every weekend. There, I know I've been. I used
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to travel a lot for work before, like, but it was more scheduled.
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Now it's every single week. I'm having to fly, you know,
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to Texas and stuff. So it's limiting our time that we have to record
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and things like that. But and plus we have a lot going on.
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We were trying to move, like buy the house over there, get the
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house ready here. We had like contractors here to finish up a couple because
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we weren't planning on moving this soon. So all of our DIY stuff had
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to get some contract some help. So that kind of sucked, you know
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how that is they tell you it's gonna take like two days and it takes
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seven weeks. You know, that's how they go. So anyway, so
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what we're gonna do is we're gonna put this episode out this week and then
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we are actually in the process of moving. I got to go this week,
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and then we close on the house the next week. Whenever you get
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this, we're closing on the house the next week and moving that week.
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So there's gonna be no episode, and then the next week is Thanksgiving,
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so we'll have a new episode at the beginning of December sometime. So it's
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gonna be just be prepared not to hear from us for like two weeks.
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Three Max, let's do. We're doing our best here people. It's just
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a lot. There's a lot happening right now. There's a lot of balls
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in there. I got Stew's balls that happens, I got other balls.
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It's all just a lot of balls in the air, a lot of balls
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coming at you, a lot of balls flying at my face. It's just
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kind of like college. It's just anyways, that reminds me of that time
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I was a substitute teacher. Remember that you had a lot of balls flying
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No, no, you pervert. I was in there. I was like
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substituting for Luck as a pe coach, and I think I texted you or
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I said, I haven't had this many balls flying up. They were playing
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dodgeball, and I think I said, I hadn't had to be this many
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balls flying on my face since college or something, and I can play dodgeball.
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Well, this was several years ago. I haven't substitute taught in seven
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or eight years, so this was pre pandemic. You know, they're not
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allowed to do anything these days. But anyway, so but that's where we've
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been. We've been super super busy, and it's just going to continue on
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for the next couple of weeks and then leads into the holidays. So and
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then of course we still have these children here. We got to keep alive.
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All right, Well, it's already late now, so we're gonna go ahead
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and get into this episode. Out of Virginia. So. Hannah Elizabeth Graham
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was born February twenty fifth, nineteen ninety six, and reading, England,
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to Sue and John Graham. Hannah moved with her family to the US when
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she was about five years old. Her family settled in Virginia and began embracing
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the American lifestyle. Hannah attended West Potomac High School, where she was popular,
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made good grades, and excelled at softball. Her senior year, she
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was even named captain of the team. Now, when it was time to
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go to college, she chose the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, Virginia.
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On September twelfth, twenty four teen, Hannah had gone to dinner with friends
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at mcgrady's, which was a local pub, and she was planning on heading
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to two separate parties later that evening. She eded to the first party and
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spent some time and then headed off to the next at around one twenty am.
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Oh my god, I'd be like, I know, I'm sorry,
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I have a slight cough. I'm the one that's sick. I know,
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but I've been sick for weeks. Like I know, you gave it to
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me. I know. I remember. I think we missed an episode cause
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I was sick. Well that continued on for I'm still I'm still dealing with
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it. I had an antibiotic and it's just lingers and you gave it to
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me. But yet I boot and rally for this podcast. Okay, well
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I'm here too, Stuart, with a slight irritation you aren't with you and
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in my throat. Okay, we weren't last week? Okay, well no,
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it wasn't. It wasn't about I gotta stop coughing. I might have
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to go get some water. Anyways, it wasn't about last week. Wasn't
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about being sick last week. It was about being exhausted stew and being so
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busy. Okay, I could have booted in rounity all right. Anyway,
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So she's up at one twenty am and we can't even imagine such things.
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It's ken thirty, right, now and we're hard. I mean whenever I
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was even younger, like whenever I was younger, Stu still wanted to go
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and everything that. I'm like, it's nine pm in the house. We
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should be home. Yeah, so we don't leave our house at one twenty
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am anymore now or heading to our second party. If we're leaving a party
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that late, we're definitely coming up. Yeah, we're definitely like we're done.
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So anyway, At one twenty Hannah texted her friend saying she was trying
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to get to the party, but she had become lost. She was around
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the pedestrian mall in Charlottesville, and she was not familiar with the area,
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and she was going to a new place where this party was. So she
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wasn't familiar with where she was or where she was going. So she's lost.
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I don't know what a pedestrian mall is. A pedestrian mall is like
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an it's like an outdoor mall where it's like I've never been to the Mall
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of America. It's not enclosed. Okay, it's not an enclosed it's like
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basically an outdoor mall. It's like it seems more like two like you could
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have like strip malls, but they're all all connected, and then it's like
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a pedestrian area to walk in the middle instead of like a road going everything,
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so it's like an outdoor mall. I would say, I don't think
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you know what I saw photos all right, So that next morning that was
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Hannah never made it to that next party or anything like that where she was
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heading to, and so friends and family knows she was missing and they contact
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police. Now police they begin pulling video surveillance from around the areas where Hannah
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was last seen. They see her leave her apartment and stop by the pub.
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Now she seems a little tipsy. When leaving the pub alone, she
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takes off on foot and a nearby gas station catches her running down the side,
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and so they're thinking it was just weird. She just I saw the
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video. She just took off running, you know, like, but no
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one was chasing her though, So they're like, well, looking at the
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video and there's nobody chasing her, there's no cars following her. Supernat a
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ghost. No. I don't know if she was like drunk and just felt
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like running or got freaked out, but yeah, no one was chasing or
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anything. And like they said it wasn't like they didn't feel like she would
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get spooed because it was a pretty safe part of town. It was very
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well lit, so they were they couldn't figure out why she was running.
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So she heads towards that pedestrian male and they see Hannah. She's she arrives
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and just before her entering the frame, they see a larger African American man
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on screen with dreads and he has a very distinct look because he's just like
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a real big guy and he's got these dreads. You know you're gonna pick
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him up on camera easily, and so he's easy to pick out as the
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cameras are pictures on the camera going round. So the man was walking away
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from Hannah, but later you see him turn and come back on a different
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sidewalk, so there was like a front sidewalk he's walking. Then all of
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a sudden, you see Hannah on the other sidewalk that's a little further back
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in the frame like on because it's a pedestrian mall steward itself, and you
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see him meet up with Hannah. Well, they end up walking together.
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Everything's like real calm, like they you know, like she knew him,
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maybe she was even meeting him there or something like that, so she wasn't
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trying to get away from him or anything like that. He had his arm
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around her waist and everything. So they end up going to the Tempo bar,
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but there is no video showing this. This is known to police based
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on eyewitness reports. So that's the last guy she's seen with. Is as
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this pedestrian mall. Is this a guy that she seemed to be familiar with
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or something like that. So after they find this video footage of Hannah,
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Hannah, they don't know who. They can't identify this man and that was
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the last scene with her. So oh, the case ends up going cold.
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So they start this happened in twenty fourteen, so they start looking,
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please start looking at other cases that might be similar, and they ended up
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finding out that they had like a series of incidents with like young women by
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themselves and something happening to them. Really, yes, Stuart, really tell
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me more. Okay, you tell us wow. On October seventeen, two
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thousand and nine, So this is looking back at a case that from five
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years prior. You think, well, I'm just filling in the gap,
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Stuart. Well, we told them twenty fourteen. Now it's okay. Well,
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you know, sometimes I don't listen all the time. When I'm listening
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to a podcast, sometimes I tune out and I'm like, oh shit,
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how they get to this point? I'm glad someone like me is like,
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yeah, this was five years ago. I'm sorry, what just go.
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Morgan Harrington, twenty years old, was last scene alive at a Metallica concert
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at the University of Virginia Arena. Somewhere. I would never be caught dead
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a Metallica concert. Why not? I know that's true because that's I would
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send you to go with one of your friends. You would you have?
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I'd send you to go with another female, just so I wouldn't have to
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go. You did? When did I do that for the Megadeth concert?
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Another female? Oh no, you sent me with a male. I sent
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you with your male friends. Okay. Yes, there was a lot of
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women though that were reliving there. Eighties days, hair hair band days.
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Yes, now she had left, but that's how much I didn't want to
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go. I was just like, I don't care. Here's the condom,
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just in case STU. I did not say I would not say that,
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but I really didn't want to go to that concert, so I was happy
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to let him go and drink, and well we had a child. Yeah,
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somebody had to watch it. I also just didn't want to go.
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Yeah. She had left her friends and purse behind while at the concert to
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go to the restaurant. At some point she ended up outside the arena and
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fallen and scratched her face. She went through the wrong She got drunk of
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the concert and she went through the wrong damn door, ended up outside of
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what it sounds like now, without her purse and looking disoriented. Security at
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the arena would not let her back in it, obviously they wouldn't if you
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don't have a ticket. Even if you've got a ticket that's been torn,
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they still won't let you in. Like sorry, Yeah, you can't be
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going in and out of the arena no, without any idea or ticket stub
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or anything. Well, even if you had, even if you had an
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idea and ticket stubb and you left the arena the door, say no,
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readmitutes, they'll just I know, but security shouldn't some twenty year old drunk
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out there by herself defend for herself. That's like fucked up. Well,
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yeah, it kind of is. I would hope that if our daughter showed
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up, it ended up, and when she's twenty drunk was a concert,
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the security team wouldn't just be like, so sorry, man, can't come
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back in here. Good luck to you. Try not to get murdered.
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Twenty years from now, when she's at the Rolling Stones concert, no,
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probably like justin Bieber or something. Why would she go to that. I
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don't know what's the current band, Taylor Swifts probably still going to be around
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be forty thousand dollars a ticket. I had that kind of money. Now
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it is assumed that Morgan decided to try and hitchback to her friend's house.
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What did I say, hitchhike? No, you said hitchback, hitch hitchhike,
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hitchhike back to her friend's apartment. Now, she was last seen on
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a bridge on foot, and that was also the last time she was saying
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alive. Yeah, so I'm sure in her drunken state, she thought I
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can catch a ride back. Noah, just throw my thumb out. Yeah.
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I think she was a bit of a free spirit too, especially if
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she's a Metallica concert. I feel like that's you don't know nothing. I
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feel like, this is a certain type of person. What I've been a
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Metallica concert like there or four times? I know you have, Stewart.
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I'm just saying it's a certain type of person, like you don't know who
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that type of I would never go to Metallica concert, and I would never
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try to hitchhike home because I think they're more a little bit more free spirited
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than I. What just because they Yes, yes, that's the stereotype I
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have placed in my mind, and you will not convince me otherwise. No
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one's hitchhiking home from the Taylor Swift concert. Stewart, I'm sure they have.
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You've been to Taylor Swift? No, No, I don't even know
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how to get tickets. I think it's like some magical portal. Although I
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heard she's performing in Paris. We could go there, watch Texas. No.
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Now, her family and friends began looking everywhere for Morgan with no sign
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of her. Metallica even made videos were questing information on the whereabouts of Morgan.
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Her family knew that after several days of Morgan being missing, the odds
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of her being found alive were low. As we all know, anybody that
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listens to true crime no, the first forty eight or the most important.
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Yes, they even have a show called that. Really, I thought I
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just coined that Frise. After week, three weeks after she went missing,
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a T shirt of Morgan was found draped on a bush. It was taken
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in for testing and confirmed to have Morgan's DNA and an unknown DNA on it
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as well. Other than that, there were no more clues in Morgan's disappearance,
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and their worst nightmares came true when in January of twenty ten, three
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months after she had gone missing, Morgan's body was found on a farm about
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ten miles from where she had gone missing. Her body was too far decomposed
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to having any u useful evidence, and the only thing they had to go
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on was the T shirt DNA, And they put that DNA in the FBI's
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database and it came back to an unknown DNA profile and another case from two
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thousand and five. Yes, so this is a things are piecing together.
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Well though those two were pieced together, but still the assailant is completely unknown.
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They just have this other DNA from this case. And so this case
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occurred, like I said, back in two thousand and five in Fairfax,
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Virginia, a woman who remains unnamed, was walking she didn't want to share
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her name, was walking to her home from a supermarket at night when a
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man approached her. Now, she became very nervous, and that is when
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all of a sudden, he just attacked her. He dragged her to a
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field and became began beating her and then started raping her. Now, a
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man happened to pull up in the parking lot and had his lights facing the
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empty field where they were. So there's a supermarket. He drags her off.
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There's like this field out there with some trees behind it, and so
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he dragged off in that field, like not too far from where. Like
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I said, it's a parking lot. So thankfully, this guy pulls in
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has his lights shining. And this is when the attacker he flees because he
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sees that the man's lights are on him. And the guy gets out of
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the truck. So he flees into the woods. And the man tried to
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go and catch him, but he couldn't. He couldn't catch up with him.
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He was already gone. The woman was taken in for medical assistance and
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to collect evidence. Now they were able to get that DNA sample from under
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her fingernails where she had scratched her assailant, and they were also able to
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get a sketch of the man. He was an African American around six feet
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tall, two hundred pounds, with short hair and a mustache and a beard.
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Now he was a big guy and he could easily overpower his victims,
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like this lady was like real small, So he just dragged off very easily.
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Once the police had the match to the woman who was attacked in two
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thousand and five, the description of the assailant and that sketch of the man,
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this heightened the suspicions of the man that Hannah was last seen with.
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Yeah. See, they didn't have any DNA on that guy. They didn't
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even have Hannah's No there they were. They were so they were looking at
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these cases where these young this isn't like a dangerous this isn't something that happens
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all the time. So when they had like a young girl the same age
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as Hannah, they look back at these unsolved cases and found Morgan. And
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then from Morgan's case, they're like, okay, this piece is to this
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two thousand and five case. And then they're like, oh, in this
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two thousand and five case, we have a sketch of a guy that looks
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just like the guy from Hannah's case. And then they're like, Okay,
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all these are connected, All these are highly deed. Possibly exactly the DNA
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that's matching in Morgan and the other girls is the same person, most likely
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based on the sketch that they had that matched the person that was seen with
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Hannah in twenty fourteen. So that's how they're just going back can piece it
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together based on similar cases that had been that had occurred in the area over
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the last decade or so. So anyway, police still did not know the
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identity of that man, but it was very similar to the sketch of the
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man that attacked the woman in Fairfax. Yeah, which is crazy that the
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guy had never been done that those two things and had never been arrested and
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bit into a system, you know, for anything. Well, I mean
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if he never if you never come in a crime that requires them at tacking
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your DNA, then you can go through the jail system for something minor and
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never have your DNA tech. Well, now they take it. You used
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to it, I know, but I'm saying that most of them usually have
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got caught doing something else that where their DNA is collected. They don't just
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go from like almost raping and murdering a woman and then actually murdering a woman
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to it. Never nothing ever happened in between that they were arrested for sexual
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assault or anything become something that didn't require a DNA sample. Yeah. So,
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anyway, police posted this video of the guy that Hanna was with all
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over social media and the news, and they receive a tip on the man's
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name, and that is a Jesse Matthews Junior. With this information, they
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obtain a search warrant and his vehicle and his apartment, and they obtain an
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item to run DNA to compare against the samples there that they currently have on
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file. Before they can go and bring Jesse in for questioning, he shows
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up at the police station and tells them he wants a lawyer and would not
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answer any questions. He was not under arrest, so he leaves and they
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just follow his movements. He manages to evade the police who were just following
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him, and since they had no right to chase him because there was no
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arrest warrant, they didn't have any leaves. He's gone he evades them,
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they can't. They lose track of him. Well, he can't evade somebody
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that's not chasing. Well they're not chasing, they're just watching him from a
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distance. Now his name is leak to the public, and his name is
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everywhere now at this point, because now we've got the main suspect matching the
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description of the been identified as the last person to see Hannah. And now
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he's asked for a lawyer, taken off on police and everything like that,
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and so he's suspect number one, and they're just trying to work on getting
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that rest warrant so they can actually go after him. So I don't know,
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it seems like they kind of fucked up on this one a little bit
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amazing. He somehow found out that they were after him because he knew they
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were after him, because he's honest. Let's he's the one that he's the
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one that did he know what He knew what he did, and he knew
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they were like, oh, well, they're not going to just let me
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go. They're going to follow me, and so he's like, I got
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to get out of here. Well, he turned himself in first off or
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came in said said I'm not answering questions. I want a lawyer, because
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he didn't want them approaching him because he probably knew. If he's paid any
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attention to anything, he's probably like, they're going to get my d or
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something. They're gonna have an arrest warrant. When they come to talk to
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me. I'd rather go tell them I'm not answering your questions. I want
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a lawyer, and then I can try to run away. So maybe he's
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a little smarter than Yeah, well he's never gotten caught before and he's done
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bad things. So ten years on the so, with Hannah still missing in
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the prime suspect on the run, police finally did have enough between him evading
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police and acting so suspicious and then everything they were able to get an arrest
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forrant for him. However, he's nowhere to be found, so the warrant
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is issued for abduction with a tent to a defile because again we haven't even
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found Hannah. We don't know where she's at, so at this point they
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only have the abduction charge. Police and her family plead for Jesse to come
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forward with information about their daughter's whereabouts. Now. Please continue to search for
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Jesse and Hannah, hoping that maybe she's alive with Jesse holding her up somewhere
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because now he's taken, like maybe he has maybe he's keeping her somewhere.
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Jesse was well known in the area. He had grown up in the area
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and worked at the local hospital as well as volunteering with the local football teams.
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Like that. He was like described as a nice guy. Like he
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was, you know, great volunteering his time and doing all kinds of stuff.
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Yeah, he was, like everyone who described him said he was a
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nice guy. He'd never have been in trouble with the law as we can
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tell, because he's DNA's not in the system. And so police they kept
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digging around in his past and they did find that Jesse had been kicked out
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of Liberty University after football after his coach heard that he had forced himself upon
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another female student. So the coach hears this, and there were no formal
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charges from the university or anything, but the coach did hear this, and
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he's like, you can't be on the team anymore, kicks him off the
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team, and he soon after leaves the university and like said, no charges
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were filed or anything like that. He moved to Christopher Newport University, also
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in Virginia, where he joined the football team, but soon left the university.
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Again, he had been accused of sexually assaulting other female student, but
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again no child's were, no charges were filed, and he just simply walked
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away and moved on with his life. So both these universities neither one and
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really looked into this. They just said, you kind of rain him off,
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basically like they don't want that. Well, author was no charges filed.
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They can't, No, it is the university's job to charge. To
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charge him was reported by the female. Yes, it was reported by her.
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I thought it was just a room. No coaches heard floating around.
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It wasn't a rumor. They they they just decided not to charge him with
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anything, and they just kind of rain him off because they don't want that.
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They don't want it bad. They don't want it bad because they've had
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to start reporting these types of things to the public and they don't want to
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do it, so they just don't charge any files charging. That's the weirdest,
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Huh, what charge any files? What is the word? No charges?
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Or they don't file in each charge. You are a blonde, aren't
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you? They don't. They don't like the stats at the school, they
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don't like the status. So instead there, let's kick him off the football
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team. Let's make his life not so pleasant here. Unlet's just hope he
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leaves, because if they have to force him out, then all of a
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sudden they got to tell you, you know, they got to put on
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his record. Why And then I think also there was a whole issue where
25:29
they should have been if they had this happened, they should have reported to
25:33
their university so they would be aware to not let him on their campus and
25:37
things like that. But exactly they do it in the casinos. If they
25:41
don't like him one casino, there's a listic on yes, so it's kind
25:45
of like a no fly list. So these schools were being shady, not
25:48
wanting to have to report such sexual assaults to make their stats look bad,
25:56
and people not wanting to go there. So none of this was on his
25:59
a few record and because since those charges were dropped and Jesse went on with
26:04
his life driving a cab for a few years before working at the hospital where
26:07
he was slowly working his way up and he had just recently received a promotion
26:12
like he was good at his job too, he did a patient patient transport.
26:19
You know, like when you can't leave the hospital unless you gotta wait
26:22
for patient transport, You're just always ready to go home. And then you're
26:25
like, we gotta wait for patient transport, and you're like, Jesus Christ
26:29
Christ, when will they get here? Yes, so he was I can
26:33
walk, Yeah, I can push my own wheelchair. Yeah. Especially after
26:37
you have a baby and you have to wait for that, you just want
26:40
to go home. And they're like, well, we're waiting on patient transport.
26:44
You're like, I'm fine. Now. There was no sign of Jesse
26:47
in the area that he was known to hang out, and his family,
26:52
if they knew that where he was, they were not coming forward with any
26:56
information, which is really shitty on their part. If they didn't know where
26:59
he was. If I did, yes, now on sech someone knew.
27:03
I'm sure, well somebody probably knew where he was. I don't know if
27:07
it was the family or friends, but I'm sure he was getting help from
27:10
somebody. Well, like I said, if he grew up in there,
27:11
he still had probably best buds from high school and things like that. I
27:15
mean, somebody was probably somebody had to bring him food or something if he
27:18
wasn't seen out in the bountain. Yeah. Anyway. On September twenty fourth,
27:22
police finally catch a break when a call comes in from the Galveston,
27:26
Texas Sheriff's Department. A woman had gone to the beach and noticed a man
27:32
in a tent. The man then got in his car and drove by the
27:36
woman. The woman immediately recognized him because she had seen him all over the
27:41
news all the way in Texas, and she stayed on the beach and watched
27:45
Jesse until police arrived and he was arrested. The Charlottesville Police Department flew to
27:51
Texas and escorted him back to Virginia. With Jesse in custody, they still
27:56
did not have any answers, and he would not tell them what had happened
28:00
to Hannah, to Hannah or where she was now. On October eighteenth,
28:04
five weeks after Hannah had disappeared, a search team was canvassing an old,
28:08
abandoned property about six miles from where Hannah was last seen, and they found
28:14
human remains. They believe this was Hannah. Forensic testing would confirm this.
28:18
Now that the body was found, they began piecing the evidence against him together
28:22
for a case. Meanwhile, the DNA was run against the unsolved rape of
28:26
the woman in Fairfax way back in two thousand and five, and surprise,
28:32
surprise, it was a match. So they continue to check his DNA with
28:36
other unsolved cases and this included that Morgan Harrington case. Could remember it matched
28:40
the one back in two thousand and five, but it was unknown, and
28:44
so they run it and both so that unidentified DNA on her shirt did match
28:49
Jesse's DNA. Now Jesse was now the number one suspect in three cases,
28:55
a rape with attempted murder in Fairfax, the Morgan Harrington case, and the
29:00
Hannah gram case. So for the rape and attempted murder charge in Fairfax,
29:06
the victim actually traveled all the way back from Asia to testify against Jesse because
29:10
she had been there. I think she was a student or she was working,
29:14
and this just like obviously trauma time and she's like, I'm get the
29:18
fuck out of the United States. Yeah, so she would. So she
29:21
traveled back to Asia and this was it was real hard for her because they
29:26
said because the cultures were so different, and it's just trying, you know,
29:30
like not blaming the victim and things like that. It was just really
29:33
hard on her to she felt a shame like it was her fault or something
29:37
like that and everything. But but she decides it's important for her to travel
29:41
back and testify against Jesse now that they found him. So the DNA results
29:47
for the match to Jesse came back as one in seven point two billions,
29:51
So there's literally no other chance that that's more people than there are on the
29:55
entire earth. So it's it's definitely him that's a hatch. So the before
30:03
so the defense knows this is like they're up against the wall on this one,
30:06
Like they're not going to convince you. But the woman's come back.
30:07
They're not going to say that she was I mean, the defense could be
30:11
like it was consensual sex. She was asking for it, she wanted rough
30:14
sex in the field. The defense I know they do, but instead they
30:18
decide to come back. I mean, those DNA results, they can't really
30:22
argue with those a little damning, yeah, And so before they could even
30:26
start arguments or anything like that, they decide to offer an Alfred plea,
30:30
which if we've talked about an Alfred plea, it's basically where you I'm not
30:36
guilty, but the evidence against me is so overwhelmingly that I might as well
30:41
pleade guilty. But I'm not guilty. So with that he was sentenced to
30:45
three life sentences. So it's a cop out, and Alfred plea is a
30:48
cop out, be like, I'm not actually guilty, but even though you
30:53
have all this evidence that says I am, and there's no way I can
30:57
refute it, I will plead not guilty. But okay, I will guilty.
31:04
No, all plead guilty. But I didn't do it. You said
31:07
not guilty, but I didn't do it. But I'm not guilty yet.
31:11
Yes, guilty, not guilty. On October twenty, twenty fourteen, Jesse
31:18
was formally charged in the Fairfax case. It would take until February tenth,
31:22
twenty fifteen, for police to feel comfortable with having enough evidence to officially charge
31:29
him with first degree murder in addition to the previous charges of abduction with intent
31:34
to defile. These charges would later be up to capital murder after more evidence
31:40
that was not disclosed surfaced. He was later charged in the Morgan Harrington case,
31:45
and on September fifteenth, twenty fifteen, he received the same charges as
31:51
the Hannah Graham case. The murder trials will set this start in July and
31:56
October of twenty sixteen. However, they would not make it to trial with
32:01
capital murder charges. The death penalty was an option, so Jesse chose to
32:06
plead guilty in both cases, and the judge sentenced him to four consecutive life
32:12
sentences, and part of his plea deal agreement was that he could not appeal
32:16
and he would not be eligible for any geriatric release. Yeah. So we've
32:22
seen that before about like if once they get to a certain age, even
32:24
if they're in life, they get it's like something like young too. It's
32:29
not even super old. It's I think one of the guys was like fifty
32:31
five or sixty. We saw that if they've served at least I mean,
32:38
I mean, if you're like thirty five, you can have a geriatric pregnancy.
32:42
Stuart shut up. They'd call it advanced maternal age. Now geriatric that's
32:50
what they used to call it. Then they're like, so this is an
32:52
advanced prisoner agent advancement, advanced prisoner agent, an ape of release. No,
32:59
but we've seen that. One of them was like, all you had
33:01
to do was serve at least fifteen years, and if you reach a certain
33:04
age, even if you had life sentences, you could be eligible for parole
33:07
due to the geriatric release or whatever, which I don't know, but at
33:15
least they they got that out of him, because he already had the three
33:17
life sentences for the whole rape and attempted murder, and now he's got four
33:22
more like consecutive, not concurrence. So they threw the book at him as
33:28
much as they could without actually gound trial. Somehow lives through death and resurrects
33:34
himself. He's got three, he's got life. Well, no, he's
33:36
got seven six more. Yeah, yep. So anyways, but I'm glad
33:43
they didn't put it. They put those stipulations in there, so he's stuck
33:46
in jail forever. Anyways, that's our case for this week. He was.
33:52
They also those two universities were sued by the families because they said that
33:58
if he had been properly charged in those because what they did was they never
34:02
they looked into him. Then they just dropped the cases. Like I said,
34:05
I think it was more of a they're soon him as because they feel
34:07
like it was a cover up to make their schools. Yeah, because that
34:09
would have been a sexual assault that would have taken DNA. So I firly
34:13
wrapped that girl in the field, they would have two thousand and five.
34:15
His DNA would have been on here. He also wouldn't have been allowed to
34:17
go to the next university and sexually assault that girl because he would have been
34:22
prohibited. Like we said, he'd been in the system of the universities at
34:25
least to say that, he would have had a note on his record saying
34:30
don't let him in your school. All right, So STU, do you
34:32
have a yeall need Jesus? Of course I got a yell. Need?
34:35
Is it ready to go? Right now? Right now? Of course it's
34:37
ready to go. Okay, Well hurry up because it's late in this household.
34:40
Well, this is your fault because I tried to go at eight o'clock
34:44
to night, and you're like, no, I want to screw around and
34:45
watch Sister Wise until ten or eleven o'clock at night and then when I'm ready
34:51
to go. It wasn't even in the new episode. The new episode came
34:52
on tonight and I was watching old season and then I was like, I'm
34:57
going to go to bed and you're like, oh, you can't go to
34:59
bed. We ain't out an episode in like three weeks. We gotta go.
35:01
It's it's only been too but it'll be three because I gotta go to
35:05
work. Yes, so this is your fault anyways. No, I was
35:09
just find your thing. Okay, I'll talk while you find it. Neked
35:15
man fights police officer, steals patrol vehicle Florida, not Florida, not Florida.
35:24
But I'm cheating because I saw him play the video. It's quite what's
35:30
happening Quiet entertain Las Vegas, Nevada. This is like four days ago.
35:37
This is all coming back full circle to Sister Wives because we were just watching
35:39
the episode where they just moved to flag Staff and they left Vegas. Didn't
35:44
like the lifestyle there, and this is exactly why. Because there's there's no
35:47
naked, drunk people jumping into police cards and flag Staff Arizona. I'm sure
35:52
there is, and I don't know what this The most disturbing part of what
35:57
you talked about was we were watching you were you were men about how stupid
36:00
they were about their financial choices. You're like, this is stupid. Well,
36:05
they're talking about we got four houses and we didn't sell them. But
36:07
yeah, they didn't sell This was all This is if you watch Sister Wives,
36:10
this is whenever they moved from Vegas just up and moved to flag Staff
36:14
and they didn't sell their houses before they moved, and they moved into four
36:16
rentals and they bought property. So they're paying on property, four rentals and
36:22
four houses in Vegas that can't sell because they put Janelle in charge, who
36:27
doesn't know what the fuck she's doing with real estate, and they're like,
36:30
I don't know what changed. All of a sudden, Robin's house went on
36:32
the market and it was sold in two weeks. And it's like, just
36:35
before that they'd mentioned that they stopped you having Janelle, which is one of
36:37
the wives do the real estate deal are listing, and they had they brought
36:45
an actual professional in, and all of a sudden, the houses started selling.
36:46
It's like, I don't know what changed. Oh, yeah, we
36:49
know it changed, so Jesus, yes, yes, no, they need
36:54
Jesus. But now all three of the four wives have left. So it's
37:00
fun to watch old seasons because anybody who's been a long time Sister Wife's watcher
37:05
knew this was all going to fall apart at some point. We were just
37:07
waiting and it's finally happening. Anyways, go on with your story, Oh
37:13
Jesus, and a bizarre and kat. This is coming from KTLA, which
37:20
if you live out in La that's the news station out there. A bazaar
37:23
and chaotic scene unfolded on the streets of Las Vegas on Halloween night when a
37:29
naked man got into a fight with a police officer and then stole his patrol
37:32
vehicle. Well maybe he was in costume as a crazy person. I think
37:37
he was, and the incident was captured on video. It happened at around
37:40
eleven to fifteen pm. WIN officers responded to a call regarding a naked man
37:45
in traffic near Blue Diamond Road and Buffalo Drive. It did look like a
37:50
video footage that you'd see in like the Hangover or something like that. And
37:52
like, you know, like the video footage they roll at the end where
37:55
it's like what happened during that time, and it's like filling the gaps.
38:00
One would be like this, Yes, this would be old Zach Galifanakis stealing
38:07
the patrol car. A Las Vegas police officer fights with a naked man at
38:12
Buffalo Drive. That's the description of the picture. I shouldn't read that well.
38:19
According to Las Vegas Metropolitan Police, Clyde cap Youlicion twenty nine began fighting
38:27
with the first responding officer, hitting and punching, before jumping into the officer's
38:31
patrol suv and driving off a chasing suit and cabusealal Caabu. Listen eventually crashed
38:40
into another vehicle roughly five miles away. Okay, so recapping the story before
38:46
we get to the would you like me to recap Sister wives? Now?
38:51
You're a seventeen seasons now. According to Metro, Clyde got into a fight
38:55
blah blah blah, and this was captured on video by Kyle Even, a
39:00
nearby driver who's gonna basically tell us again what happened. From his perspective,
39:06
He said he saw flashing lights and he thought he was pulling up on an
39:08
accident. Instead, he witnessed a naked man in the road casually walking.
39:14
He said, you got a cop and a naked dude. I thought he
39:16
was going to be handcuffed and thrown in the ground. Even said during a
39:20
phone interview Wednesday morning, the cop kind of seemed like he was protecting him
39:25
from somebody coming through the basically the light and hitting him. He said that
39:30
had what happened next made his jaw drop. The naked man was able to
39:35
get into the Metro Forward F one fifty patrol vehicle and drive away. I
39:40
was just glad the cop didn't go run over. Even said, it's like
39:45
a real light. Even ev E and Kyle Evan is the guy oh last
39:52
name? Yes, he said, it was like a real live grand theft
39:57
auto. O Police said that though Clyde headed north on Rainbow with police in
40:04
pursuit for more than five miles, he then cross center line, drove into
40:07
oncoming traffic and rental red light at Hassenda Avenue, crashing into the passenger side
40:12
of a Ford Explorer, injuring the driver and the passenger. Thirty four year
40:16
old woman who was driving to Explorer and her forty three year old male passenger
40:21
suffered critical injuries transported to UMC Trauma. Transported the man told eight News reporter
40:30
that his right body is paralyzed, amongst other complications after being seated in the
40:35
passenger seat. So old Clyde, what do they say was wrong with them?
40:42
Who? Clyde. Yeah, probably on drugs or some shit. Yeah,
40:46
all right, so that's our y'all need Jesus for this. Clyde needs
40:50
some Jesus. You gotta quit being run around naked in public and stealing police
40:53
officers patrol viaicle. Yeah, well, police needed to take the damn keys
40:57
at the ignition. These days, I've seen too many videos of people slipping
41:00
cuffs, getting in the driver's seat and doing all kinds of weird shit.
41:05
I'm sure they're supposed to. They just forget well, they all need to
41:10
be remote starts and then you just keep the key in your pocket thought old
41:13
times, or you can disable your vehicle with your phone or something if it
41:17
does get stole. Worn well, Stuart, they're still just trying to get
41:20
enough money to function, I guess then to upgrade cars. So all right,
41:25
So I guess we'll see you guys in two to three weeks, probably
41:29
at the beginning of December, after we moved to Texas. We're going to
41:32
see them or whatever hear from this, you'll hear from us from way out
41:38
in West Texas. So the West Texas town of a Passave. Yeah,
41:44
well, no, we're not going that far. So it's not like a
41:46
Marty Robinson. No, you don't even know who Mary start don't. All
41:52
right, Well I'm gonna go watch some more sister Wise, Well I'm tired
41:55
done and go to bed. Well, I gotta I have to take a
41:58
half a unisal Stewart, and then I go to bed. For you,
42:02
I don't know what that means. Stud doesn't need a unism. He literally
42:07
lays his head down and goes to sleep, and I want to stab him.
42:09
So it takes me a little bit of time to go to sleep,
42:12
So I usually have to take a half a unism to try to doze off.
42:16
If I really want to go to sleep, I take a whole unism.
42:20
But then I'm like worthless the next day. Now, what's that from
42:23
a difference? Is that from any other day? No, here's the thing.
42:28
If I want to take a whole unis on, it's because I'm like
42:30
out of town and I don't have any like children or a husband or responsibilities.
42:37
Yes, I'll go to bed at like nine pm, and that's when
42:39
I can take a full unison because I don't have to be up to like
42:43
seven or whatever, and I can just sleep no interruptions somebody else deals with
42:49
the lings. Oh, our children are pretty good sleepers. They both sleep
42:52
pretty much twelve hours. Like they woke up this morning. I was like,
42:58
why are these little ship heads waking up so early? Now I forgot
43:00
the time changed. I'm kidding. I just we just love the little things.
43:06
No, they thank god they are their sleepers. They'll sleep till like
43:07
nine o'clock in the morning, both of them. So people hating on you
43:12
right now, they go to bed. The baby goes to bed at like
43:15
seven thirty every night and he sleeps till eight thirty nine ish. And then
43:21
the two year old, she's hit her miss here lately. She her problem
43:27
is when she goes to school like daycare whatever, they give her a nap
43:30
and she really shouldn't be taking a nap. So when she's home on the
43:31
weekends, she don't take anap. She just has quiet time instead. But
43:36
she'll go to bed at like eight eight fifteen, and she'll sleep like you
43:40
gotta go wake her up. If she gets that nap during the day,
43:44
she won't go to bed at night. Ten yeah, she won't go to
43:47
bed at night, so she be at the door jee yeah, maybe eleven
43:54
yeah. Some nights, some strange nights, she'll still be up and you're
44:00
like, Jesus, just got a bad plaster. God, no, she
44:04
doesn't get juice at night. We got it. She got into the habit
44:07
of getting the juice, and then it was like, this can't we can't
44:08
continue this on. This is bad. We're gonna rot our teeth out.
44:12
So we got her back on water. So she does water. But anyways,
44:16
don't judge our parenting. We're terrible parents. But all right, so
44:20
we'll see you guys in a couple of weeks, and we'll see you next
44:24
for I haven't forgot how to end these. We'll see you next time.
44:28
Buyeveryone say bye to Tell't you know it's bad to be SUPERSTI shot my napping.
44:39
Else is working. It's pretty hurning sick. This worthy. I can