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Rich Lowry | Editor-In-Chief of National Review | 06-17-26 · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 2: Which Lowry is the editor of the National Review. I
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  Speaker 2: love Rich is on the show every week and he
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  Speaker 2: kicks off our guest list on this important Wednesday morning,
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  Speaker 2: which how are you, Buddy good, Sydney, How I'm good?
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  Speaker 3: I want to read this to you. This is a lady.
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  Speaker 2: Her name is Karen. I'm not going to give away
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  Speaker 2: her last name. She may not want me to, but
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  Speaker 2: she is a big, big fan of the show, loves
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  Speaker 2: me and dms me on Instagram.
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  Speaker 3: Quite a bit.
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  Speaker 2: Nice Jewish lady, and she texts me at six fifty
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  Speaker 2: five am, sid thank you for supporting Israel. But it
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  Speaker 2: might be time to stop saying Trump is the best
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  Speaker 2: president ever. If this disaster goes through which it looks
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  Speaker 2: like it.
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  Speaker 3: Is, this is bad.
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  Speaker 2: He will have sold out the United States to cutter
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  Speaker 2: not to mention completely screwing Israel, selling is sold to
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  Speaker 2: the devil. This will be Trump's ultimate legacy. He's not
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  Speaker 2: the only one. Your friend Megan Kelly is probably happy.
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  Speaker 3: These days and plushing interview jd Vance yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: But Mark Lemane is saying a lot that sounds like that,
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  Speaker 2: So am I. So what do you think is is
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  Speaker 2: a deal with this Iran deal? And to me, it
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  Speaker 2: looks like a lot of the big Trump supporters in
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  Speaker 2: America and Israel are going sideways.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's bad, it's disappointing, but I'm not as
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  Speaker 4: shocked and outrageous some of my hawkish friends because I
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  Speaker 4: don't think we won the war. I think the basic
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  Speaker 4: problem was, as you've put it for weeks and weeks now,
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  Speaker 4: he was stuck. So when you're stuck and you need
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  Speaker 4: to get out, it's not going to be pretty the
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  Speaker 4: way you get out.
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  Speaker 2: So you see, I'm the only one to use that
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  Speaker 2: word for weeks and weeks, and some people got offended
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  Speaker 2: by that. But you're good on how you look back
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  Speaker 2: in what prospect? I was right, wasn't I?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah's totally true, totally true. So we didn't win the
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  Speaker 4: war because we couldn't take straight back from them. Now
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  Speaker 4: we kind of vitiated their hold on the straight somewhat
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  Speaker 4: with this escorting that was going on, which is good,
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  Speaker 4: but it wasn't anything like the pre war level. And
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  Speaker 4: you just can't go into, you know, the height of
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  Speaker 4: the summer driving season with gas above five dollars, which
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  Speaker 4: is what we're probably looking at, because reserves were beginning
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  Speaker 4: to go low that have provided the cushion so that
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  Speaker 4: closure to the strait wasn't so bad, at least at
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  Speaker 4: least here. So you had to trade the blockade for
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  Speaker 4: the straight and then and then you paid them in
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  Speaker 4: effect also for opening the straight, which wasn't great, you know,
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  Speaker 4: with these renewed oil sales. Now, I think if you
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  Speaker 4: look at the memorandum that's been floating around that seems
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  Speaker 4: like it's accurate. The first read, it is horrifying, you know,
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  Speaker 4: three hundred billion, what we're giving it, what we're ending
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  Speaker 4: the sanctions, and then you look look at it with
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  Speaker 4: sort of a lawyer's eye. Nothing else is agreed to,
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  Speaker 4: Nothing else is agreed to. It could be agreed to,
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  Speaker 4: and it could be really bad, but everything's pending a
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  Speaker 4: final agreement. Everything's pending progress whatever that means. Everything's pending
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  Speaker 4: a plan you know that we don't haven't seen yet.
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  Speaker 4: So I think the worst of this could be yet
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  Speaker 4: to come, but may never happen. And I'm kind of
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  Speaker 4: guessing that the ladder might might be the case. So
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  Speaker 4: we reopened the straight by letting them sell oil and
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  Speaker 4: trading the blockade. Not great to let them sell oil again,
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  Speaker 4: But some of the things people are most exercised about,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure they're actually going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: So let me explain this to the audience, because I
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  Speaker 2: think you may be right at which Lowry is right,
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  Speaker 2: and those things don't happen, which does include loosening sanctions
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  Speaker 2: and money to Iran. I'm freezing money down the road
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  Speaker 2: whenever they I guess.
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  Speaker 3: Based on merrit whatever that means. It's so dumb.
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  Speaker 2: If you're right, that means that the war is not
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  Speaker 2: over and we are going to go back in there
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  Speaker 2: once again with military force because something happened, well they
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  Speaker 2: didn't comply.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I'm not saying that I don't think you'll go
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  Speaker 4: back in, but I'm just saying they may not get
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  Speaker 4: all those benefits because they may not provide concessions that
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  Speaker 4: we think are worthy of those benefits.
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  Speaker 2: Well, but that's the point if they don't provide the concessions. See,
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  Speaker 2: here's my biggest issue with this deal. We'll get to
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  Speaker 2: some of the more specifics in a second. We get nothing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we took out the naval book blockade that
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  Speaker 2: wasn't there when the war started. Okay, Okay, the strait
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  Speaker 2: is opened, so what it was opened before?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, really, when you look at this, you've gotta
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  Speaker 3: be a genius.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, everything gets put back right where it was before
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  Speaker 2: the war. That's what we get. So we get nothing
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  Speaker 2: in essence. They still have volumanium. I mean, I had
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  Speaker 2: a yelling, screaming fight with Mike Waller yesterday because he's like,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna get the dust. I go really says, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: what do you mean We're gonna get the dust? It
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  Speaker 2: is so embedded in these mountains. I don't believe us
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  Speaker 2: even the Israelis know where all of it is. And
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  Speaker 2: there's no way in a billion years, even with that's
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  Speaker 2: the promise of money, that Uran's going to give it up.
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  Speaker 2: So if this is all about the dust and all
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  Speaker 2: about their nuclear program, you've got to be a moron
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  Speaker 2: to think that Iran is going to give it up,
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  Speaker 2: and if they don't give it up, according to Trump,
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  Speaker 2: then it's a loss.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 4: Well, so the big caveat you're absolutely right about what
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  Speaker 4: you're saying. What's in the four corners of the deal.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think we're getting any major nuclear concessions and
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  Speaker 4: further negotiations in sixty days. It'll just be extended and
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  Speaker 4: extended and extended. So I think a lot of the
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  Speaker 4: sanctions relief won't happen, and we won't get concessions. But
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  Speaker 4: the big thing that has happened, and it's totally different
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  Speaker 4: from last year, is their nuclear program and infrastructure has
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  Speaker 4: been destroyed. If they want to start right now, they can't.
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  Speaker 4: So that's a major accomplishment that even people most distressed
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  Speaker 4: by this deal should hold on.
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  Speaker 2: When you say destroyed, I hope you're right, because I
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  Speaker 2: fought for President Trump when he said that was the
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  Speaker 2: case after Midnight Hammer, well before Operation Epic Fury. I said,
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  Speaker 2: he's right. So are you telling me that right now
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  Speaker 2: are not able to enrich Uranian Because if they can
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  Speaker 2: do that, then they are still on the way to
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  Speaker 2: making nuclear bombs.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they can. I think the centerfuges have
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  Speaker 4: been destroyed. These things are so delicate, you know, they
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  Speaker 4: just hit a bomb near them. It puts them out
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  Speaker 4: of commission. So I don't think now they're going to
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  Speaker 4: reconstitute as quickly as they can if they can. But
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  Speaker 4: I think today they just couldn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: But what do you think they're going to be doing
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  Speaker 2: for the next sixty to ninety days while we have
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  Speaker 2: these ridiculous negotiations. No disrespect to Kushner or Wit come
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  Speaker 2: up for Trump prevents, But these negotiations have gone nowhere.
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  Speaker 2: And if they end up with a signature and a
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  Speaker 2: piece of paper, ask Barack Obama and John Kerry how
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  Speaker 2: that one?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know, I think you look at this
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  Speaker 4: and it's just all worre to happen. You know, they
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  Speaker 4: make various assurances, we give the major sanctions relief and
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  Speaker 4: all that. It is a version of the JCPOA. But
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  Speaker 4: again the difference is we bomb the hell out of them,
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  Speaker 4: We bomb the hell out of their program, and we
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  Speaker 4: set it back significantly. So I think that's the core
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  Speaker 4: achievement of what Trump did. That's what no one else
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  Speaker 4: did or was going to do. I think this deal
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  Speaker 4: is disappointing. I think having Lebanon in there is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: That's a diplomatic victory for a run. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: that's going to hold well.
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  Speaker 2: Right now that you mentioned Lebanon. President Trump has been
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  Speaker 2: over the top and very disappointing. This is coming from me.
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  Speaker 2: You know how much I love him, and I think
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  Speaker 2: he still lost me. He may not after this, but
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  Speaker 2: he's been very disappointing in his criticism of BB. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I had a conversation with a buddy yesterday. He said, sit,
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  Speaker 2: here's what I think. I think he's right. Trump got
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  Speaker 2: sick and tired of hearing from all his detractors this
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  Speaker 2: is Bbe's war. You saw the memes. They were everywhere
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  Speaker 2: of BB walking Trump on the leech. You heard people
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  Speaker 2: even in this city, like Curtis say, this isn't America's war,
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  Speaker 2: it's BB's war. They've been saying that all over the world.
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  Speaker 2: You've been Megan Kelly says it. Tuck a Cross and
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  Speaker 2: says it. All these people say it. And you know Trump,
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't like to play second fiddle to anyone. So
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  Speaker 2: he's taking this start and now he feels like He's
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  Speaker 2: got a bash of living daylights out of bb hoping
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  Speaker 2: Bibe will understand to prove his dominance and show that
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  Speaker 2: it's his war, he's in charge, and not Bibe that
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  Speaker 2: this goes directly to the core of Trump's ego.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think about that?
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  Speaker 4: Maybe I'm sure he hates hearing that, But to me,
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  Speaker 4: it looks a little bit like a larger version what
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  Speaker 4: happened with Midnight Hammer. You know, we go in with
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  Speaker 4: the Israelis, in a fact, join Israeli bombing campaign, which
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  Speaker 4: we've never done before, and then by the end, when
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  Speaker 4: Trump wants it to end, he's saying Biebe doesn't know
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  Speaker 4: what the f he's doing, like in public. So this
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  Speaker 4: has been bigger and harsher than that. But I think
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  Speaker 4: it's just a similar dynamic. He was desperate for the deal.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't want anything to upset it. The Rangers were saying, well,
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  Speaker 4: you're not We're not signing, and let's say stop bombing
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  Speaker 4: hes the law. And then so then Trump called him,
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  Speaker 4: called him on the carpet, so well.
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  Speaker 3: But why should but why should that? But why should
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  Speaker 3: Israel stop bombing hesbel lah I? Don't you know?
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  Speaker 2: I keep making this analogy, but it's true. You know,
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  Speaker 2: if some terrorist group arrived in Cincinnati at six o'clock
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  Speaker 2: on a Saturday morning on a holiday and started raping
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  Speaker 2: and murdering Americans, what do you think Trump's response would be?
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  Speaker 2: Or if after that they started bombing on a regular
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  Speaker 2: basis like they do now.
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  Speaker 3: Brooklyn or Sacramento.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's very easy for Trump to sit there
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  Speaker 2: and tell BB to take it up the ass because,
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  Speaker 2: truth be told, Trump's country, at least at this point,
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  Speaker 2: is not in danger. I don't think Trump is being fair.
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  Speaker 2: BB is trying to protect Israel from a group that
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  Speaker 2: is out to destroy him and continues to bomb Israel
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  Speaker 2: all the time. So what so BB comes back harder?
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't President Trump do that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I totally agree. I totally agree.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, And by the way, have you heard President
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  Speaker 2: Trump come out and say anything nasty about Erdawan or
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  Speaker 2: Mom Donnie. No, he goes out of his way to
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  Speaker 2: compliment Mom Donnie Erdawan. Yesterday he talked about the Iranian regime,
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  Speaker 2: the new one, and he said they're want and a
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  Speaker 2: pleasure to deal with. So the worst people in the
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  Speaker 2: world get complimented by Trump. He never attacks, you know,
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  Speaker 2: any hour bleeders. But Phebe's a bad guy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree. No society would tolerate what Israel
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  Speaker 4: is supposed to put up with, with terror groups to
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  Speaker 4: the north and the south that have hit Israel routinely.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if there's a terrorist group embedded in Michigan
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  Speaker 4: shelling Canada and making people leave from certain parts of Canada,
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  Speaker 4: Canada would freak out bomb the hell out of Michigan.
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  Speaker 4: You know, any society would do that. So I totally
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  Speaker 4: agree with you that this is bad. And you know
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  Speaker 4: it's also Trump's It's just not in Trump's nature to say,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, this is the best week you get.
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  Speaker 4: It's not a great deal. These people are awful. I
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  Speaker 4: want them to go away. But this is what we
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  Speaker 4: had to do, right, It's it always has to be
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  Speaker 4: the greatest deal ever. So he started the war out
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  Speaker 4: over optimistic because that's the way he is. And now
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  Speaker 4: he's over optimistic about the peace deal, and he may
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  Speaker 4: be different three months from now, because that's also the
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  Speaker 4: way he is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's got him win the midterm. So and look,
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  Speaker 2: I was overly optimistic. I thought epic Furia, it was great.
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  Speaker 2: I was all four going into Iran. But I want
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  Speaker 2: to finish well, Well said, it's easy for you to
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  Speaker 2: say your son is not in the military.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 2: My heart goes out to parents whose kids are fighting
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  Speaker 2: every day. They're brave, courageous, beautiful people. But they signed
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  Speaker 2: up last night, checked there is no draft, okay, and
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  Speaker 2: be going to start a war, which President Trump did,
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  Speaker 2: And I'm okay with it. In fact, I was happy
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  Speaker 2: with it. He was the first president to do something
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  Speaker 2: about it, after every other one promised they would.
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  Speaker 3: He did it.
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  Speaker 2: Way to go, President and Trump. You get an eight plus,
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  Speaker 2: but it begin to start it finish? It is that
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  Speaker 2: asking so much?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, the problem is part of the original
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  Speaker 4: sin here. He made no public case for the war.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't go and get prongresional authorization, and it was
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  Speaker 4: unpopular from the start. So it's kind of limited politically.
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  Speaker 4: If you want to finish it, what does that mean?
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  Speaker 4: You can end of the regime. I mean, it's absolutely
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  Speaker 4: in our power to end the regime, but you'd have
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  Speaker 4: to send a couple of divisions into Tehran.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand.
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  Speaker 2: And you gotta send people, gotta send boots on the
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  Speaker 2: ground too, to really get inside the the spots where
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  Speaker 2: they're enriching uranium, you can't take it out from the air,
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  Speaker 2: So you know, he knows that he's got to put
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  Speaker 2: foots on the ground to get it. He's expecting Iran
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  Speaker 2: to give it to us, which is so ridiculous. It's
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  Speaker 2: never going to happen. Even if they do, they'll give
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  Speaker 2: us just a little bit just to make us happy.
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  Speaker 4: I think the absolute red line for him he was
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  Speaker 4: not putting guys on the ground and potentially.
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  Speaker 2: Losing should then you shouldn't have thoughted this because all
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  Speaker 2: these all you've done. Then the last couple of months,
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  Speaker 2: honestly is waste time. A lot of money. Americans died,
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  Speaker 2: Israelis died, and all we're doing is putting things right
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  Speaker 2: back where they were before. Yes, the bombings did destroy
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  Speaker 2: their infrastructure, it did limit the nuclear capabilities all that,
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  Speaker 2: but the truth is we did not accomplish any of
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  Speaker 2: the major things we wanted to, did we.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, if you're gonna go on the ground, though,
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  Speaker 4: you had to make a case for that ahead of time.
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  Speaker 4: You just can't do it kind of on a whim
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  Speaker 4: the way he did. So I think that that's that's
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  Speaker 4: pretty close to the original scenter of this thing again,
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  Speaker 4: and I think he it's a big achievement to have
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  Speaker 4: done what we did to the nuclear program. But I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't have done this campaign the way he did. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think he'd do it this way in retrospect. And
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  Speaker 4: I think actually said the big thing, even though I
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  Speaker 4: supported at the time, I thought it was great, was
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  Speaker 4: killing the Ayatola because once you've done that, you've signaled
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  Speaker 4: to the ring is this is existential. You better do
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  Speaker 4: everything possible you can to make this as painful as
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  Speaker 4: possible for us and survive. So they closed the straight,
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  Speaker 4: whereas the Twelve Day War they didn't close the straight
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  Speaker 4: because they didn't think it was existential. So if you
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  Speaker 4: needed to wipe out some more manufacturing stuff or nuclear stuff,
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  Speaker 4: just signal to them this is like the Twelve Day War. Guys,
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  Speaker 4: don't worry, we're not killing your leaders. But if you
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  Speaker 4: close the straight, we will. And then maybe they don't
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  Speaker 4: close the straight, and this whole thing looks different.
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  Speaker 3: Think we underestimated the Iranians.
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  Speaker 2: I think they really thought trumping the folks that they
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  Speaker 2: would just get unconditional surrender, because that's how those things started.
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  Speaker 3: People forget already.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't start with well, you know, if you'll open
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  Speaker 2: the straight and if you're you know, you're you're nice. No,
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  Speaker 2: it started with unconditional surrender. And I really think Trump
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  Speaker 2: and his people thought they were going to get that.
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  Speaker 2: They wiped out forty guys day one. They're bombing all
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  Speaker 2: over the place.
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  Speaker 3: They were never going to get that. These animals don't care.
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  Speaker 3: They don't care. Well, they're starving the people. They don't care.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they're happy for the Iranians to eat grass.
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  Speaker 4: So it doesn't matter how much economic pressure you put on.
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  Speaker 4: They don't care to tend a gun down forty thousand
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  Speaker 4: of them. They're willing to.
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  Speaker 2: Well, how come, well, how come I know all this?
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  Speaker 2: I'm just a dopey radio host. How come I know
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  Speaker 2: all this? I'm not in the situation rooms. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sitting there with all these people, including the president. How
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  Speaker 2: come you know this? Which Lowry and people sitting in
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  Speaker 2: DC didn't know this. I mean, come on, you're.
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  Speaker 4: Not sitting in the big chair. You weren't in the
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  Speaker 4: situation room when you took this enormous risk to go
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  Speaker 4: into Venezuela and get Maduro out, and it worked. Brilliantly right.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, But the difference is Venezuela is the size
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  Speaker 2: of Brooklyn and Iran's got ninety million people.
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  Speaker 4: True, it's true. But someone come and tells you, you
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  Speaker 4: know what, we can kill the I tool like in
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  Speaker 4: two hours. If you go now, you'd be tempted. I
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: understand why I took that shot. I don't think in
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: retrospect we should have taken that shot.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: I would have done it. No, not be more than tempted.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: I would have done it.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: But I would have put and I hate to say
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: this to the families of our military, I would have
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: put boots on the ground. I'd have them inside those
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: rmanium chambers as we speak, and whatever else has to
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: be done. I know, I know it's terrible. I know
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: it is, But what the hell.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: You think war is? What kind of war is?
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: This is bomb a bunch of people and then call
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: it quits.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Well again, if you can do that, you got to
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: tell the public that's what you can do.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: And you're right. They never would have gotten any congressional
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: little provo. I understand that there's even members of Congress
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: right now that didn't want the war to start with
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: another man about the deal. I mean, are you upset
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: that tomorrow's excuse me, tomorrow's Thursday, but we may have
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: to wait until Friday to see the actual details.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: I actually am. I think it's kind of ridiculous. We
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: shouldn't know what it is, you know, if it's been
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: agreed to print the thing. I think we've seen it.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: It seems as that we've seen it, you know, Repio out,
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: let's send it. This is this is what it is.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: But it's it's ridiculous that we don't know what it is.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: I kind of agree too, But I'm going to end
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: this conversation, which was great. You're so great at this,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: you know you are, and I love you. The pieces
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: with JD. Vans and Megan talking about just that about
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: why don't we know what's in the deal? You know
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: it's it's Wednesday, so you are amazing as always, which Lowry,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: I love you, Thank you so much. We'll do this
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: again in two weeks over there.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Thank you, buddy, I.
• 16:32
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  Speaker 3: What the heck is going on here