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Unearthing Grandma's Mystery Surprise Box: A Journey into Children's Books · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 4:30
  Hi,
• 4:31
  my
• 4:31
  name
• 4:31
  is
• 4:32
  Jeannie
• 4:33
  Dill
• 4:33
  Swabodyny,
• 4:35
  and
• 4:35
  I
• 4:36
  have
• 4:36
  written
• 4:36
  two
• 4:37
  children's
• 4:38
  picture
• 4:38
  books.
• 4:39
  The
• 4:40
  first
• 4:40
  one
• 4:40
  is
• 4:41
  Annie's
• 4:41
  Fourth
• 4:42
  of
• 4:42
  July,
• 4:43
  and
• 4:43
  the
• 4:43
  most
• 4:43
  recent
• 4:44
  one
• 4:44
  is
• 4:45
  Grandma's
• 4:45
  Mystery
• 4:46
  Surprise
• 4:46
  Box.
• 4:47
  And
• 4:48
  I
• 4:48
  want
• 4:48
  to
• 4:48
  thank
• 4:49
  you,
• 4:49
  Papa
• 4:49
  Rick,
• 4:50
  for
• 4:50
  having
• 4:50
  me
• 4:50
  on
• 4:51
  today.
• 4:52
  I
• 4:52
  really
• 4:52
  appreciate
• 4:53
  it.
• 4:54
  No
• 4:54
  problem.
• 4:54
  Thanks,
• 4:55
  G,
• 4:55
  for
• 4:55
  appearing
• 4:56
  on
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  Adventures
• 4:57
  in
• 4:57
  the
• 4:57
  Hard
• 4:57
  of
• 4:58
  Children's
• 4:58
  Book
• 4:58
  Authors
• 4:59
  podcast.
• 5:00
  As
• 5:00
  Jeanne
• 5:01
  has
• 5:01
  mentioned,
• 5:01
  she's
• 5:02
  written
• 5:02
  two
• 5:03
  books,
• 5:03
  and
• 5:03
  today
• 5:04
  we're
• 5:04
  going
• 5:04
  to
• 5:04
  primarily
• 5:05
  focus
• 5:05
  on
• 5:06
  Grandma's
• 5:06
  Mystery
• 5:07
  Surprise
• 5:07
  Box.
• 5:08
  And
• 5:08
  I
• 5:09
  look
• 5:09
  forward
• 5:09
  to
• 5:09
  the
• 5:09
  conversation
• 5:10
  for
• 5:11
  sure.
• 5:11
  Before
• 5:11
  we
• 5:12
  get
• 5:12
  into
• 5:12
  the
• 5:12
  details
• 5:13
  behind
• 5:13
  your
• 5:14
  book,
• 5:15
  I'd
• 5:15
  like
• 5:15
  to
• 5:16
  talk
• 5:16
  to
• 5:16
  you
• 5:16
  about
• 5:17
  what
• 5:18
  being
• 5:18
  a
• 5:18
  children's
• 5:19
  book
• 5:19
  author
• 5:20
  means
• 5:20
  to
• 5:20
  you.
• 5:20
  And
• 5:21
  if
• 5:21
  you
• 5:21
  could
• 5:21
  take
• 5:21
  us
• 5:22
  on
• 5:22
  kind
• 5:22
  of
• 5:22
  a
• 5:23
  journey,
• 5:23
  think
• 5:23
  about
• 5:24
  what
• 5:24
  it
• 5:25
  meant
• 5:25
  to
• 5:25
  you
• 5:25
  when
• 5:26
  you
• 5:26
  wrote
• 5:26
  your
• 5:26
  first
• 5:27
  book
• 5:27
  and
• 5:28
  now
• 5:28
  what
• 5:28
  it
• 5:28
  means
• 5:28
  to
• 5:29
  you
• 5:29
  as
• 5:29
  now
• 5:30
  you've
• 5:30
  become
• 5:30
  a
• 5:31
  veteran
• 5:31
  or
• 5:31
  a
• 5:32
  seasoned
• 5:32
  children's
• 5:32
  book
• 5:33
  author.
• 5:33
  I'll
• 5:34
  have
• 5:34
  to
• 5:34
  back
• 5:34
  up
• 5:35
  a
• 5:35
  little
• 5:35
  bit.
• 5:36
  I
• 5:36
  was
• 5:36
  in
• 5:37
  education
• 5:37
  for
• 5:38
  50
• 5:38
  years.
• 5:39
  I
• 5:39
  was
• 5:39
  a
• 5:40
  classroom
• 5:40
  teacher,
• 5:41
  special
• 5:42
  ed
• 5:42
  teacher,
• 5:43
  and
• 5:43
  my
• 5:43
  last
• 5:44
  position
• 5:44
  was
• 5:44
  an
• 5:45
  elementary
• 5:45
  principal.
• 5:46
  Okay,
• 5:47
  so
• 5:47
  you
• 5:47
  started
• 5:48
  when
• 5:48
  you
• 5:48
  were
• 5:48
  very
• 5:49
  young.
• 5:49
  Yes.
• 5:50
  A
• 5:51
  baby.
• 5:51
  A
• 5:52
  baby.
• 5:52
  There
• 5:52
  we
• 5:52
  go.
• 5:55
  Yeah.
• 5:56
  And.
• 5:56
  And
• 5:56
  I
• 5:57
  loved
• 5:57
  every
• 5:58
  position.
• 5:58
  I
• 5:58
  really
• 5:59
  did.
• 5:59
  I
• 5:59
  love
• 6:00
  children.
• 6:01
  I
• 6:01
  love
• 6:01
  being
• 6:02
  schools.
• 6:03
  I
• 6:03
  love
• 6:04
  seeing
• 6:04
  those
• 6:04
  light
• 6:04
  bulbs
• 6:05
  go
• 6:05
  on.
• 6:06
  I
• 6:07
  love
• 6:07
  reading
• 6:08
  books
• 6:08
  to
• 6:08
  children
• 6:09
  and
• 6:09
  seeing
• 6:10
  their
• 6:10
  excitement.
• 6:11
  So
• 6:12
  I
• 6:12
  retired
• 6:13
  three
• 6:13
  years
• 6:13
  ago
• 6:15
  and
• 6:15
  I
• 6:15
  thought,
• 6:16
  now
• 6:16
  what
• 6:16
  am
• 6:16
  I
• 6:17
  going
• 6:17
  to
• 6:17
  do?
• 6:17
  I'm
• 6:17
  very
• 6:18
  active.
• 6:18
  And
• 6:19
  I
• 6:19
  thought,
• 6:20
  I
• 6:20
  need
• 6:20
  something
• 6:20
  else
• 6:21
  to.
• 6:22
  And
• 6:23
  the
• 6:23
  first
• 6:23
  year,
• 6:23
  my
• 6:24
  husband
• 6:24
  was
• 6:25
  pretty
• 6:25
  sick
• 6:25
  and
• 6:25
  in
• 6:26
  the
• 6:26
  hospital
• 6:26
  a
• 6:26
  lot,
• 6:27
  so
• 6:27
  that
• 6:27
  took
• 6:27
  the
• 6:27
  first
• 6:27
  year.
• 6:28
  And
• 6:29
  then
• 6:29
  the
• 6:29
  second
• 6:30
  year
• 6:30
  things
• 6:30
  were
• 6:31
  better
• 6:31
  and
• 6:31
  I
• 6:32
  thought
• 6:32
  I
• 6:32
  just
• 6:32
  was
• 6:32
  searching
• 6:33
  for
• 6:33
  things
• 6:34
  and
• 6:34
  then
• 6:34
  up
• 6:35
  popped
• 6:35
  on
• 6:35
  my
• 6:36
  Facebook,
• 6:37
  Miriam
• 6:38
  Laundrie
• 6:39
  advertisement
• 6:40
  on
• 6:41
  how
• 6:41
  to
• 6:41
  write
• 6:41
  a
• 6:41
  children's
• 6:42
  picture
• 6:42
  book.
• 6:43
  And
• 6:43
  I
• 6:44
  thought,
• 6:44
  now
• 6:45
  that's
• 6:45
  something
• 6:46
  that
• 6:46
  maybe
• 6:46
  I
• 6:46
  would
• 6:47
  really
• 6:47
  like
• 6:47
  to
• 6:47
  do
• 6:48
  because
• 6:48
  I've
• 6:48
  always
• 6:48
  been
• 6:48
  interested
• 6:49
  in
• 6:49
  writing
• 6:51
  and
• 6:51
  I've
• 6:51
  always
• 6:52
  been
• 6:52
  really
• 6:52
  interested
• 6:53
  in
• 6:53
  just
• 6:54
  word
• 6:54
  choices.
• 6:55
  And
• 6:56
  like,
• 6:56
  when
• 6:56
  I
• 6:56
  am
• 6:57
  listening
• 6:57
  to
• 6:58
  someone
• 6:58
  speak,
• 7:00
  I
• 7:00
  don't
• 7:00
  know,
• 7:00
  it's
• 7:00
  just
• 7:01
  kind
• 7:01
  of
• 7:01
  weird.
• 7:01
  But
• 7:02
  sometimes
• 7:03
  they
• 7:03
  just
• 7:03
  use
• 7:04
  a
• 7:04
  word
• 7:04
  that
• 7:04
  is
• 7:05
  spot
• 7:05
  on
• 7:06
  to
• 7:06
  describe
• 7:07
  whatever
• 7:07
  it
• 7:07
  is.
• 7:08
  And
• 7:08
  I
• 7:08
  just
• 7:08
  get
• 7:08
  all
• 7:09
  excited
• 7:09
  about,
• 7:10
  wow,
• 7:11
  that
• 7:11
  was
• 7:11
  like
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  perfect
• 7:12
  word
• 7:12
  to
• 7:12
  use.
• 7:13
  So
• 7:13
  anyway,
• 7:14
  I
• 7:14
  thought,
• 7:15
  I
• 7:15
  love
• 7:15
  children
• 7:16
  and
• 7:17
  I
• 7:17
  love
• 7:18
  sharing
• 7:18
  books.
• 7:19
  And
• 7:19
  so
• 7:20
  I
• 7:20
  thought
• 7:20
  I
• 7:21
  would
• 7:21
  check
• 7:21
  into
• 7:21
  the
• 7:21
  Miriam
• 7:22
  Laundrie
• 7:22
  program.
• 7:23
  And
• 7:23
  so
• 7:24
  I
• 7:24
  did.
• 7:25
  And
• 7:25
  I
• 7:25
  don't
• 7:25
  know
• 7:25
  if
• 7:26
  we'll
• 7:26
  talk
• 7:26
  about
• 7:26
  that
• 7:27
  more
• 7:27
  later,
• 7:27
  but
• 7:27
  I
• 7:28
  can't
• 7:28
  say
• 7:28
  enough
• 7:28
  positive
• 7:29
  things.
• 7:29
  About
• 7:30
  that
• 7:30
  program,
• 7:30
  it
• 7:31
  really
• 7:31
  taught
• 7:32
  me
• 7:32
  how
• 7:33
  to
• 7:33
  write
• 7:33
  a
• 7:34
  children's
• 7:34
  picture
• 7:35
  book,
• 7:35
  because
• 7:36
  I
• 7:36
  did
• 7:36
  not.
• 7:37
  I
• 7:37
  didn't
• 7:37
  have
• 7:37
  a
• 7:37
  clue
• 7:38
  about
• 7:38
  how
• 7:38
  to
• 7:38
  write
• 7:38
  a
• 7:39
  children's
• 7:39
  picture
• 7:40
  book.
• 7:40
  And
• 7:41
  her
• 7:41
  program
• 7:41
  was
• 7:42
  step
• 7:42
  by
• 7:42
  step,
• 7:44
  and
• 7:44
  her
• 7:45
  team
• 7:45
  were
• 7:46
  just
• 7:46
  fabulous.
• 7:47
  The
• 7:47
  editor
• 7:47
  on
• 7:48
  that
• 7:48
  team
• 7:48
  helped
• 7:49
  me
• 7:49
  so
• 7:49
  much,
• 7:50
  shifted
• 7:51
  the
• 7:51
  way
• 7:51
  my
• 7:52
  story
• 7:52
  was
• 7:52
  going
• 7:53
  or
• 7:53
  helped
• 7:53
  me
• 7:53
  shift,
• 7:54
  taught
• 7:55
  me
• 7:55
  that
• 7:57
  in
• 7:57
  a
• 7:58
  children's
• 7:59
  picture
• 7:59
  book,
• 7:59
  and
• 7:59
  this
• 7:59
  is
• 8:00
  applicable
• 8:01
  for
• 8:01
  those
• 8:01
  who
• 8:01
  haven't
• 8:02
  written
• 8:02
  one
• 8:02
  yet,
• 8:03
  you
• 8:03
  need
• 8:04
  to
• 8:04
  have
• 8:04
  a
• 8:04
  problem,
• 8:06
  and
• 8:06
  that
• 8:06
  problem
• 8:06
  has
• 8:07
  to
• 8:07
  emerge
• 8:08
  pretty
• 8:08
  quickly
• 8:09
  in
• 8:09
  the
• 8:09
  book.
• 8:10
  And
• 8:11
  you
• 8:11
  should
• 8:11
  have
• 8:12
  the
• 8:12
  children
• 8:13
  solve
• 8:14
  that
• 8:14
  problem,
• 8:15
  not
• 8:15
  the
• 8:16
  adult
• 8:16
  in
• 8:17
  the
• 8:17
  story.
• 8:18
  So
• 8:18
  when
• 8:18
  I
• 8:19
  submitted
• 8:20
  my
• 8:20
  first
• 8:21
  edit
• 8:21
  or
• 8:22
  story
• 8:22
  for
• 8:22
  edit,
• 8:23
  the
• 8:23
  adult
• 8:24
  was
• 8:24
  solving
• 8:24
  more
• 8:25
  of
• 8:25
  the
• 8:25
  problem.
• 8:25
  And
• 8:26
  so
• 8:26
  my
• 8:26
  editor
• 8:27
  guided
• 8:28
  me
• 8:28
  and
• 8:28
  said,
• 8:29
  no,
• 8:29
  Jeannie.
• 8:29
  So
• 8:30
  anyway,
• 8:30
  yeah,
• 8:31
  I
• 8:31
  just
• 8:31
  learned
• 8:31
  so.
• 8:32
  Much
• 8:32
  from
• 8:32
  that
• 8:32
  program
• 8:32
  that
• 8:33
  drew
• 8:33
  out
• 8:34
  the
• 8:34
  children's
• 8:35
  book
• 8:35
  author
• 8:35
  in
• 8:36
  you.
• 8:37
  Yes,
• 8:37
  yes,
• 8:38
  it
• 8:38
  did.
• 8:39
  Yes,
• 8:39
  it
• 8:39
  did.
• 8:40
  Terrific.
• 8:40
  And
• 8:41
  so
• 8:41
  think
• 8:41
  about
• 8:42
  your
• 8:42
  first
• 8:42
  book
• 8:43
  and
• 8:43
  now
• 8:44
  think
• 8:45
  about
• 8:45
  your
• 8:45
  second
• 8:46
  book.
• 8:46
  And
• 8:46
  how
• 8:46
  has
• 8:47
  being
• 8:47
  a
• 8:47
  children's
• 8:48
  book
• 8:48
  author
• 8:49
  changed
• 8:50
  for
• 8:50
  you
• 8:50
  now
• 8:51
  that
• 8:51
  you've
• 8:51
  got
• 8:51
  multiple
• 8:52
  titles
• 8:54
  at
• 8:54
  this
• 8:54
  point?
• 8:55
  Not
• 8:55
  very
• 8:55
  much,
• 8:56
  to
• 8:56
  tell
• 8:56
  you
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  truth,
• 8:56
  because
• 8:57
  my
• 8:57
  first
• 8:58
  book
• 8:58
  was
• 8:58
  published
• 8:59
  in
• 8:59
  June
• 9:00
  of
• 9:00
  2024
• 9:02
  and
• 9:02
  then
• 9:02
  my
• 9:03
  second
• 9:03
  one,
• 9:04
  July
• 9:04
  of
• 9:04
  2025.
• 9:06
  So
• 9:06
  it's
• 9:06
  just
• 9:06
  been
• 9:06
  a
• 9:06
  year
• 9:07
  in
• 9:07
  between.
• 9:08
  And
• 9:08
  I
• 9:09
  guess
• 9:09
  the.
• 9:10
  One
• 9:10
  of
• 9:10
  the
• 9:10
  differences
• 9:11
  is
• 9:11
  my
• 9:11
  confidence
• 9:12
  level
• 9:13
  as
• 9:13
  writing
• 9:14
  a
• 9:14
  second
• 9:14
  book,
• 9:15
  it's
• 9:15
  given
• 9:16
  me
• 9:16
  more
• 9:16
  confidence
• 9:17
  that,
• 9:17
  yes,
• 9:18
  I
• 9:18
  can
• 9:18
  do
• 9:18
  this.
• 9:19
  And
• 9:20
  the
• 9:20
  second
• 9:20
  book
• 9:21
  I
• 9:21
  self
• 9:22
  published
• 9:23
  and
• 9:23
  didn't
• 9:24
  go
• 9:24
  with
• 9:24
  Miriam
• 9:24
  Laundrie
• 9:25
  program.
• 9:26
  Before
• 9:26
  we
• 9:26
  jump
• 9:27
  into
• 9:27
  that,
• 9:27
  can
• 9:27
  you
• 9:28
  tell
• 9:28
  us
• 9:29
  what
• 9:29
  was
• 9:29
  the
• 9:29
  inspiration
• 9:30
  behind
• 9:31
  your
• 9:31
  second
• 9:31
  book,
• 9:32
  Grandma's
• 9:32
  Mystery
• 9:33
  Surprise.
• 9:34
  Tell
• 9:34
  us
• 9:34
  the
• 9:34
  inspiration.
• 9:36
  I
• 9:37
  was
• 9:37
  playing
• 9:37
  with
• 9:37
  my
• 9:38
  grandchildren,
• 9:39
  and
• 9:39
  they're
• 9:40
  young,
• 9:40
  they're
• 9:40
  10,
• 9:41
  nine,
• 9:41
  seven,
• 9:41
  and
• 9:42
  three.
• 9:43
  And
• 9:43
  I
• 9:43
  was
• 9:43
  playing
• 9:43
  with
• 9:44
  them,
• 9:44
  and
• 9:44
  they
• 9:44
  live
• 9:45
  two
• 9:45
  and
• 9:45
  a
• 9:45
  half
• 9:45
  hours
• 9:46
  from
• 9:46
  me.
• 9:47
  And
• 9:48
  I
• 9:49
  drive
• 9:49
  up
• 9:49
  in
• 9:49
  the
• 9:49
  morning
• 9:50
  and
• 9:50
  I
• 9:50
  usually
• 9:50
  drive
• 9:51
  back
• 9:51
  home
• 9:52
  at
• 9:52
  night.
• 9:52
  And
• 9:52
  then
• 9:52
  I
• 9:53
  usually
• 9:53
  don't
• 9:53
  see
• 9:53
  them
• 9:53
  for
• 9:54
  a
• 9:54
  week,
• 9:54
  maybe
• 9:54
  two
• 9:54
  weeks.
• 9:55
  And
• 9:55
  I
• 9:55
  was
• 9:56
  just
• 9:56
  thinking
• 9:56
  about
• 9:57
  how
• 9:58
  fortunate
• 9:58
  I
• 9:59
  am
• 9:59
  that
• 9:59
  I
• 9:59
  get
• 9:59
  to
• 10:00
  see
• 10:00
  my
• 10:00
  grandkids
• 10:01
  a
• 10:01
  lot.
• 10:02
  Whereas
• 10:03
  my
• 10:03
  mom
• 10:04
  lived
• 10:04
  far
• 10:04
  away,
• 10:05
  she
• 10:05
  didn't
• 10:05
  get
• 10:05
  to
• 10:05
  see
• 10:06
  my
• 10:06
  daughters
• 10:07
  very
• 10:07
  regularly.
• 10:09
  And
• 10:09
  I
• 10:10
  don't
• 10:10
  know,
• 10:10
  something
• 10:10
  in
• 10:11
  my
• 10:11
  brain
• 10:11
  clicked
• 10:12
  and
• 10:12
  thought,
• 10:13
  I
• 10:13
  want
• 10:14
  to
• 10:14
  write
• 10:14
  a
• 10:14
  story
• 10:15
  about
• 10:15
  how
• 10:16
  a
• 10:16
  grandma
• 10:16
  maybe
• 10:17
  can
• 10:17
  stay
• 10:17
  connected
• 10:18
  with
• 10:18
  her
• 10:18
  grandkids
• 10:19
  even
• 10:19
  though
• 10:19
  she
• 10:19
  lives
• 10:20
  far
• 10:20
  away.
• 10:21
  Then
• 10:21
  I
• 10:22
  was
• 10:22
  thinking,
• 10:22
  we're
• 10:23
  fortunate
• 10:23
  to
• 10:23
  live
• 10:24
  in
• 10:24
  a
• 10:24
  time
• 10:24
  where
• 10:24
  you
• 10:24
  can
• 10:25
  facetime
• 10:26
  and
• 10:27
  a
• 10:27
  grandma
• 10:28
  that
• 10:28
  lives
• 10:28
  far
• 10:28
  away
• 10:28
  can
• 10:29
  see
• 10:29
  their
• 10:29
  grandkids
• 10:30
  through
• 10:30
  FaceTiming.
• 10:32
  So
• 10:32
  that
• 10:33
  kind
• 10:33
  of
• 10:33
  was
• 10:33
  one
• 10:34
  piece
• 10:34
  and
• 10:34
  then
• 10:35
  the
• 10:35
  other
• 10:35
  piece
• 10:36
  was.
• 10:37
  My
• 10:38
  grandkids
• 10:38
  love
• 10:39
  surprises,
• 10:40
  as
• 10:40
  little
• 10:40
  children
• 10:41
  love
• 10:41
  surprises.
• 10:42
  So
• 10:43
  I
• 10:43
  usually
• 10:44
  take
• 10:44
  them
• 10:44
  up,
• 10:44
  some
• 10:45
  little
• 10:45
  surprise
• 10:46
  of
• 10:46
  some
• 10:46
  sort.
• 10:47
  That's
• 10:47
  the
• 10:47
  cool
• 10:47
  thing
• 10:48
  about
• 10:48
  the
• 10:49
  having
• 10:49
  a
• 10:49
  two
• 10:49
  and
• 10:49
  a
• 10:50
  half
• 10:50
  hour
• 10:50
  drive
• 10:51
  is
• 10:51
  there
• 10:51
  is
• 10:52
  some
• 10:52
  distance.
• 10:53
  So
• 10:53
  like
• 10:53
  you
• 10:53
  said,
• 10:54
  you
• 10:54
  can't
• 10:54
  go
• 10:55
  regularly.
• 10:56
  There's
• 10:56
  almost
• 10:56
  an
• 10:57
  anticipation.
• 10:58
  Exactly,
• 10:59
  exactly.
• 11:00
  They
• 11:00
  really
• 11:00
  look
• 11:00
  forward
• 11:01
  to
• 11:01
  my
• 11:01
  visits
• 11:02
  and.
• 11:02
  Which
• 11:02
  is
• 11:02
  wonderful.
• 11:03
  And
• 11:03
  I
• 11:04
  look
• 11:04
  forward
• 11:04
  to
• 11:04
  seeing
• 11:04
  them,
• 11:04
  but.
• 11:05
  So
• 11:05
  I
• 11:06
  usually
• 11:06
  take
• 11:06
  up
• 11:06
  a
• 11:07
  surprise.
• 11:07
  And
• 11:07
  then
• 11:08
  I
• 11:08
  just
• 11:08
  got
• 11:09
  thinking
• 11:09
  about
• 11:10
  it'd
• 11:10
  be
• 11:10
  cool
• 11:11
  if
• 11:12
  grandma
• 11:12
  came
• 11:13
  for
• 11:13
  a
• 11:13
  visit
• 11:14
  and
• 11:14
  then
• 11:14
  they
• 11:15
  could
• 11:15
  work
• 11:15
  out
• 11:16
  she
• 11:17
  would
• 11:17
  leave
• 11:17
  a
• 11:18
  surprise
• 11:18
  there.
• 11:19
  They
• 11:20
  would
• 11:20
  open
• 11:20
  it
• 11:20
  up
• 11:20
  when
• 11:21
  she
• 11:21
  was
• 11:21
  back
• 11:21
  home,
• 11:22
  she
• 11:23
  would
• 11:23
  FaceTime
• 11:24
  them,
• 11:24
  they
• 11:25
  would
• 11:25
  guess
• 11:25
  the
• 11:25
  surprises,
• 11:27
  et
• 11:27
  cetera,
• 11:28
  et
• 11:28
  cetera,
• 11:28
  and
• 11:29
  just
• 11:29
  have
• 11:29
  this
• 11:29
  neat
• 11:30
  kind
• 11:30
  of
• 11:30
  thing
• 11:30
  going
• 11:31
  between.
• 11:31
  So
• 11:31
  were
• 11:32
  you
• 11:32
  living
• 11:34
  through
• 11:34
  your
• 11:34
  mother's
• 11:35
  eyes?
• 11:36
  I
• 11:36
  was,
• 11:36
  yes.
• 11:37
  Yeah,
• 11:37
  I
• 11:37
  was.
• 11:38
  Because
• 11:38
  I
• 11:38
  felt
• 11:39
  that
• 11:39
  she
• 11:39
  only
• 11:40
  got
• 11:40
  to
• 11:40
  see
• 11:41
  my
• 11:41
  daughters,
• 11:41
  her
• 11:42
  granddaughters,
• 11:42
  a
• 11:42
  couple
• 11:43
  times
• 11:43
  a
• 11:43
  year.
• 11:44
  Yeah.
• 11:44
  So
• 11:45
  I
• 11:45
  just
• 11:45
  thought,
• 11:45
  and
• 11:46
  your
• 11:46
  mother's
• 11:47
  still
• 11:47
  with
• 11:47
  us,
• 11:47
  Right.
• 11:48
  She's
• 11:48
  going
• 11:48
  to
• 11:49
  be
• 11:49
  100
• 11:49
  in
• 11:50
  three
• 11:50
  months.
• 11:51
  Oh,
• 11:51
  my
• 11:51
  goodness.
• 11:52
  Congratulations
• 11:53
  to
• 11:53
  your
• 11:54
  mother.
• 11:56
  That
• 11:56
  is
• 11:56
  terrific.
• 11:57
  That's.
• 11:58
  So
• 11:59
  were
• 11:59
  you
• 11:59
  able
• 11:59
  to
• 12:00
  share
• 12:00
  with
• 12:00
  her
• 12:01
  the
• 12:01
  inspiration
• 12:02
  that
• 12:02
  she
• 12:03
  gave
• 12:03
  you?
• 12:04
  Yeah.
• 12:04
  And
• 12:05
  how.
• 12:06
  What
• 12:06
  was
• 12:07
  her
• 12:07
  reaction?
• 12:08
  Oh,
• 12:08
  she
• 12:09
  has
• 12:09
  dementia
• 12:10
  and
• 12:11
  memory
• 12:11
  loss.
• 12:12
  I
• 12:13
  was
• 12:13
  sharing
• 12:13
  this.
• 12:14
  Just
• 12:14
  so
• 12:15
  emotional
• 12:15
  and
• 12:16
  everything.
• 12:16
  And
• 12:16
  she
• 12:17
  was
• 12:17
  like,
• 12:18
  oh,
• 12:18
  yeah,
• 12:18
  I
• 12:19
  knew.
• 12:19
  I
• 12:19
  know
• 12:19
  all
• 12:20
  about
• 12:20
  that.
• 12:20
  I
• 12:21
  know
• 12:21
  all
• 12:21
  about
• 12:21
  that
• 12:22
  book.
• 12:22
  It
• 12:22
  was
• 12:22
  just.
• 12:24
  I
• 12:24
  don't
• 12:25
  know,
• 12:25
  her
• 12:25
  memory
• 12:26
  and
• 12:26
  her
• 12:26
  reasoning
• 12:27
  is
• 12:28
  just.
• 12:29
  It's
• 12:29
  still
• 12:29
  nice
• 12:29
  that
• 12:30
  you
• 12:30
  got
• 12:30
  to
• 12:31
  go
• 12:32
  around.
• 12:32
  It
• 12:32
  was
• 12:32
  so
• 12:32
  nice
• 12:33
  to
• 12:33
  be
• 12:33
  able
• 12:33
  to.
• 12:34
  And
• 12:34
  I
• 12:34
  dedicated
• 12:35
  the
• 12:35
  book
• 12:35
  to
• 12:36
  her.
• 12:36
  That
• 12:36
  was
• 12:37
  one
• 12:37
  of
• 12:37
  the
• 12:37
  dedications.
• 12:38
  That
• 12:38
  is.
• 12:39
  Yeah,
• 12:39
  that's
• 12:40
  true.
• 12:40
  Because
• 12:40
  she
• 12:40
  tried
• 12:41
  really
• 12:41
  hard
• 12:41
  to
• 12:42
  still
• 12:42
  stay
• 12:43
  connected
• 12:43
  with
• 12:43
  the
• 12:44
  girls,
• 12:44
  even
• 12:44
  though
• 12:44
  she
• 12:45
  lived
• 12:45
  far
• 12:45
  away.
• 12:45
  But
• 12:46
  anyway,
• 12:47
  that's
• 12:47
  the
• 12:47
  inspiration
• 12:48
  behind
• 12:48
  Grandma's
• 12:49
  mystery
• 12:49
  surprise
• 12:50
  box
• 12:50
  I'm
• 12:51
  interested
• 12:51
  in
• 12:52
  now.
• 12:52
  That
• 12:53
  you've
• 12:53
  got
• 12:53
  your
• 12:53
  second
• 12:54
  book.
• 12:54
  Now,
• 12:54
  it's
• 12:54
  only
• 12:55
  been
• 12:55
  just
• 12:55
  over
• 12:56
  a
• 12:56
  year
• 12:56
  from
• 12:57
  the
• 12:57
  first
• 12:57
  book
• 12:57
  to
• 12:58
  your
• 12:58
  second
• 12:58
  book,
• 12:59
  but
• 12:59
  I'm
• 13:00
  curious
• 13:00
  in
• 13:00
  your
• 13:01
  approach
• 13:01
  on
• 13:03
  how
• 13:03
  you
• 13:04
  thought
• 13:04
  of
• 13:04
  your
• 13:05
  book.
• 13:05
  Do
• 13:05
  you
• 13:05
  have
• 13:06
  a
• 13:06
  book
• 13:06
  business
• 13:07
  plan?
• 13:09
  Oh,
• 13:09
  Papa
• 13:10
  Rick,
• 13:10
  that
• 13:11
  is
• 13:11
  a
• 13:11
  good
• 13:11
  question.
• 13:13
  So
• 13:13
  I
• 13:14
  jotted
• 13:15
  down
• 13:15
  when
• 13:15
  I
• 13:16
  was
• 13:16
  first
• 13:17
  in
• 13:17
  Miriam's
• 13:18
  program,
• 13:19
  I
• 13:19
  knew
• 13:19
  that
• 13:20
  I
• 13:20
  wanted
• 13:20
  to
• 13:20
  do
• 13:21
  school
• 13:21
  presentations
• 13:23
  just
• 13:23
  because
• 13:23
  I
• 13:23
  love
• 13:24
  being
• 13:24
  in
• 13:24
  elementary
• 13:25
  school.
• 13:25
  I
• 13:25
  feel
• 13:26
  very
• 13:26
  comfortable
• 13:26
  in
• 13:27
  elementary
• 13:27
  schools
• 13:28
  around
• 13:28
  children.
• 13:29
  So
• 13:30
  I
• 13:30
  knew
• 13:30
  that
• 13:30
  I
• 13:31
  wanted
• 13:31
  to
• 13:31
  do
• 13:31
  that
• 13:32
  and
• 13:32
  then
• 13:32
  go
• 13:33
  to
• 13:33
  libraries
• 13:35
  and
• 13:35
  of
• 13:36
  course,
• 13:36
  using
• 13:36
  Amazon,
• 13:38
  hopefully
• 13:38
  to
• 13:39
  that
• 13:39
  People
• 13:39
  would
• 13:39
  buy
• 13:40
  books
• 13:40
  from
• 13:40
  that.
• 13:41
  Donating
• 13:42
  books
• 13:42
  is
• 13:42
  in
• 13:42
  my
• 13:43
  marketing
• 13:43
  plan.
• 13:44
  However,
• 13:45
  I
• 13:45
  can
• 13:45
  donate
• 13:46
  books
• 13:46
  going
• 13:47
  to
• 13:47
  local
• 13:48
  bookstores.
• 13:49
  I've
• 13:50
  tried
• 13:50
  that.
• 13:50
  I've
• 13:51
  done
• 13:51
  that.
• 13:52
  That's
• 13:52
  fun.
• 13:53
  Some
• 13:53
  are
• 13:53
  more
• 13:54
  receptive
• 13:54
  than
• 13:55
  others.
• 13:55
  A
• 13:56
  friend
• 13:56
  of
• 13:56
  mine
• 13:56
  has
• 13:57
  a
• 13:57
  boutique
• 13:57
  downtown
• 13:58
  and
• 13:58
  she
• 13:58
  has
• 13:59
  me
• 13:59
  come
• 13:59
  when
• 13:59
  I
• 14:00
  write
• 14:00
  a
• 14:00
  new
• 14:00
  book.
• 14:01
  And
• 14:01
  that's
• 14:02
  really
• 14:02
  fun,
• 14:03
  all
• 14:03
  of
• 14:03
  those
• 14:04
  things.
• 14:04
  But
• 14:05
  I
• 14:05
  must
• 14:05
  say
• 14:07
  marketing
• 14:08
  is
• 14:08
  probably
• 14:09
  my
• 14:09
  weakest
• 14:10
  link
• 14:11
  to
• 14:11
  becoming
• 14:11
  a
• 14:12
  successful
• 14:13
  author.
• 14:14
  I
• 14:14
  would
• 14:15
  rather
• 14:15
  just
• 14:15
  give
• 14:15
  my
• 14:16
  books
• 14:16
  away
• 14:16
  and
• 14:17
  not
• 14:17
  have
• 14:17
  anybody
• 14:18
  pay
• 14:18
  for
• 14:18
  them.
• 14:19
  But
• 14:19
  that
• 14:19
  doesn't
• 14:19
  work.
• 14:20
  I
• 14:20
  guess
• 14:21
  it
• 14:21
  could
• 14:21
  work
• 14:22
  if
• 14:22
  you're
• 14:22
  independently
• 14:23
  wealthy
• 14:23
  and
• 14:25
  I
• 14:25
  just
• 14:25
  back
• 14:26
  up
• 14:27
  where
• 14:27
  you
• 14:27
  go.
• 14:28
  Yeah,
• 14:29
  I
• 14:29
  know.
• 14:30
  To
• 14:30
  be
• 14:30
  real
• 14:30
  honest,
• 14:31
  that
• 14:32
  is
• 14:32
  a
• 14:32
  piece
• 14:32
  I'm
• 14:32
  trying
• 14:33
  to
• 14:33
  figure
• 14:33
  out.
• 14:34
  Last
• 14:34
  year
• 14:34
  I
• 14:34
  was
• 14:35
  very
• 14:35
  fortunate.
• 14:35
  I
• 14:36
  did
• 14:36
  get
• 14:37
  a
• 14:37
  number
• 14:38
  of
• 14:39
  school
• 14:39
  visits
• 14:40
  lined
• 14:40
  up
• 14:40
  in
• 14:41
  my
• 14:41
  area
• 14:42
  and
• 14:42
  because
• 14:43
  I
• 14:43
  was
• 14:43
  an
• 14:43
  elementary
• 14:44
  principal
• 14:45
  in
• 14:45
  this
• 14:45
  area
• 14:46
  for
• 14:46
  20
• 14:46
  years,
• 14:47
  people
• 14:47
  know
• 14:48
  me
• 14:48
  and
• 14:48
  so
• 14:48
  they
• 14:49
  did
• 14:49
  schedule
• 14:49
  me.
• 14:50
  But
• 14:50
  now
• 14:50
  this
• 14:51
  year
• 14:51
  I'm
• 14:51
  having
• 14:51
  a
• 14:51
  little
• 14:52
  bit
• 14:52
  more
• 14:52
  trouble
• 14:52
  getting
• 14:53
  bookings.
• 14:53
  Funding
• 14:54
  is
• 14:54
  a
• 14:54
  little
• 14:55
  bit
• 14:55
  less
• 14:55
  in.
• 14:55
  Schools
• 14:56
  generally
• 14:57
  with
• 14:57
  the
• 14:58
  school
• 14:58
  visits.
• 14:59
  I
• 14:59
  noticed
• 15:00
  on
• 15:00
  your
• 15:00
  website
• 15:00
  you
• 15:01
  have
• 15:01
  three
• 15:01
  different
• 15:02
  charges.
• 15:03
  Yes,
• 15:04
  that's
• 15:04
  very
• 15:04
  important.
• 15:05
  And
• 15:05
  do
• 15:06
  you
• 15:06
  also
• 15:06
  do
• 15:06
  up
• 15:07
  a
• 15:07
  pre
• 15:07
  booking
• 15:08
  form
• 15:09
  prior
• 15:09
  to
• 15:09
  doing.
• 15:10
  Okay,
• 15:11
  talk
• 15:11
  to
• 15:11
  us
• 15:11
  about
• 15:12
  that
• 15:12
  whole
• 15:13
  idea
• 15:13
  because
• 15:13
  I
• 15:14
  know
• 15:14
  some
• 15:15
  people
• 15:15
  are
• 15:15
  uncomfortable
• 15:16
  with
• 15:16
  charging
• 15:17
  for
• 15:17
  school
• 15:17
  visits,
• 15:18
  but
• 15:19
  at
• 15:19
  the
• 15:19
  end
• 15:19
  of
• 15:19
  the
• 15:19
  day
• 15:19
  it
• 15:20
  can
• 15:20
  be
• 15:20
  an
• 15:20
  important
• 15:21
  meth.
• 15:22
  Tell
• 15:22
  us
• 15:22
  a
• 15:22
  little
• 15:22
  bit
• 15:23
  about
• 15:23
  that
• 15:23
  and
• 15:24
  your
• 15:24
  pre
• 15:24
  booking
• 15:24
  form.
• 15:25
  Yes,
• 15:26
  I
• 15:26
  just
• 15:26
  know
• 15:27
  when
• 15:27
  I
• 15:27
  was
• 15:27
  a
• 15:27
  principal,
• 15:28
  some
• 15:28
  years
• 15:28
  we
• 15:29
  had
• 15:29
  more
• 15:29
  funding
• 15:30
  available
• 15:30
  to
• 15:31
  have
• 15:31
  presentations
• 15:33
  and
• 15:33
  some
• 15:33
  years
• 15:33
  we
• 15:34
  would
• 15:34
  be
• 15:35
  emphasizing
• 15:36
  literacy,
• 15:37
  some
• 15:37
  years
• 15:37
  math,
• 15:38
  sometimes
• 15:38
  behavior,
• 15:39
  whatever.
• 15:40
  I
• 15:40
  talked
• 15:41
  to
• 15:41
  another
• 15:42
  author
• 15:42
  who
• 15:42
  does
• 15:42
  a
• 15:43
  lot
• 15:43
  of
• 15:43
  school
• 15:43
  visits
• 15:44
  and
• 15:44
  she
• 15:44
  gave
• 15:44
  me
• 15:44
  some
• 15:44
  really
• 15:45
  helpful
• 15:45
  tips.
• 15:46
  But
• 15:46
  I
• 15:46
  wanted
• 15:47
  to
• 15:47
  offer
• 15:48
  a
• 15:48
  full
• 15:48
  day
• 15:49
  visit
• 15:50
  would
• 15:50
  be
• 15:50
  this
• 15:51
  amount
• 15:52
  and
• 15:52
  then
• 15:52
  a
• 15:52
  half
• 15:53
  day
• 15:53
  visit
• 15:54
  would
• 15:54
  be
• 15:54
  this
• 15:55
  amount.
• 15:55
  And
• 15:55
  then
• 15:56
  maybe
• 15:56
  they
• 15:56
  just
• 15:57
  want
• 15:57
  one
• 15:57
  presentation,
• 15:59
  maybe
• 15:59
  one
• 15:59
  in
• 15:59
  the
• 16:00
  evening
• 16:00
  with
• 16:00
  parents
• 16:01
  it
• 16:01
  would
• 16:01
  be
• 16:02
  this
• 16:02
  amount.
• 16:03
  And,
• 16:03
  and
• 16:04
  that's
• 16:04
  worked
• 16:04
  out
• 16:05
  well
• 16:05
  because
• 16:06
  then
• 16:06
  schools
• 16:07
  have
• 16:07
  a
• 16:07
  choice
• 16:07
  and
• 16:08
  kind
• 16:08
  of
• 16:08
  what
• 16:09
  fits
• 16:09
  in
• 16:09
  with
• 16:10
  their
• 16:10
  resources.
• 16:11
  And
• 16:12
  I
• 16:12
  do
• 16:12
  always
• 16:12
  say,
• 16:14
  because
• 16:14
  I'm
• 16:14
  that
• 16:15
  way,
• 16:15
  if
• 16:16
  funding
• 16:16
  is
• 16:17
  a
• 16:17
  challenge,
• 16:18
  I
• 16:18
  will
• 16:18
  work
• 16:18
  with
• 16:19
  you.
• 16:19
  And.
• 16:20
  But
• 16:20
  you
• 16:20
  know
• 16:21
  what?
• 16:21
  I
• 16:21
  haven't
• 16:21
  had
• 16:21
  any
• 16:21
  schools
• 16:22
  really
• 16:23
  that
• 16:23
  said
• 16:23
  they'll,
• 16:24
  they've
• 16:24
  said,
• 16:24
  oh
• 16:24
  no,
• 16:25
  we've
• 16:25
  got
• 16:25
  funding
• 16:25
  for
• 16:26
  this,
• 16:26
  we
• 16:26
  have
• 16:26
  funding
• 16:27
  for
• 16:27
  that.
• 16:28
  So
• 16:28
  the
• 16:28
  pre
• 16:29
  order,
• 16:29
  it's
• 16:30
  just
• 16:30
  a
• 16:30
  form
• 16:31
  that
• 16:31
  we
• 16:31
  specify
• 16:33
  my
• 16:33
  name,
• 16:34
  the
• 16:34
  school,
• 16:35
  the
• 16:36
  date,
• 16:37
  the
• 16:37
  time
• 16:39
  and
• 16:39
  the
• 16:40
  location.
• 16:40
  I
• 16:41
  like
• 16:41
  to
• 16:41
  know
• 16:41
  where
• 16:41
  the
• 16:41
  location
• 16:42
  where
• 16:42
  I'll
• 16:43
  be
• 16:43
  presenting.
• 16:44
  And
• 16:45
  I
• 16:46
  put
• 16:46
  on
• 16:46
  There
• 16:46
  that
• 16:47
  I
• 16:47
  will
• 16:47
  donate
• 16:48
  two
• 16:48
  hardcover
• 16:48
  books
• 16:49
  to
• 16:49
  the
• 16:49
  school
• 16:50
  library.
• 16:52
  I
• 16:52
  also
• 16:52
  bring
• 16:53
  lesson
• 16:53
  plans
• 16:54
  that
• 16:54
  the
• 16:54
  teachers
• 16:55
  can
• 16:55
  choose
• 16:55
  to
• 16:56
  use
• 16:56
  or
• 16:57
  not.
• 16:57
  And
• 16:57
  those
• 16:58
  are
• 16:58
  like
• 16:59
  with
• 16:59
  grandma's
• 17:00
  mystery
• 17:00
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• 17:01
  box.
• 17:01
  If
• 17:02
  you
• 17:03
  were
• 17:03
  to
• 17:04
  create
• 17:04
  your
• 17:04
  own
• 17:04
  mystery
• 17:05
  surprise
• 17:05
  box,
• 17:06
  what
• 17:07
  would
• 17:07
  you
• 17:07
  include
• 17:07
  in
• 17:08
  your
• 17:08
  box
• 17:09
  or
• 17:09
  who
• 17:09
  would
• 17:09
  you
• 17:09
  want
• 17:09
  to
• 17:10
  give
• 17:10
  it
• 17:10
  to?
• 17:11
  And
• 17:11
  those
• 17:12
  kinds
• 17:12
  of
• 17:12
  things.
• 17:12
  It's
• 17:13
  writing
• 17:13
  prompts.
• 17:14
  And
• 17:14
  the
• 17:14
  writing
• 17:15
  prompts
• 17:15
  when
• 17:16
  you
• 17:16
  have
• 17:16
  your
• 17:16
  pre
• 17:16
  book.
• 17:17
  So
• 17:18
  your
• 17:18
  pre
• 17:19
  booking
• 17:19
  form,
• 17:19
  I
• 17:19
  just
• 17:20
  try
• 17:20
  to
• 17:20
  understand
• 17:21
  that
• 17:21
  a
• 17:21
  little
• 17:22
  bit
• 17:22
  more.
• 17:22
  So
• 17:23
  how
• 17:23
  far
• 17:24
  in
• 17:24
  advance
• 17:24
  does
• 17:25
  that
• 17:25
  go
• 17:25
  out
• 17:26
  and
• 17:27
  generally
• 17:28
  how
• 17:28
  does
• 17:28
  it
• 17:29
  work?
• 17:29
  Like
• 17:29
  how
• 17:29
  do
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  children
• 17:30
  bring
• 17:31
  money
• 17:32
  or
• 17:32
  a
• 17:33
  check
• 17:33
  or
• 17:33
  how
• 17:34
  does
• 17:34
  that
• 17:34
  work?
• 17:35
  Okay,
• 17:36
  I
• 17:36
  guess
• 17:36
  that
• 17:36
  pre
• 17:37
  order
• 17:37
  or
• 17:37
  that
• 17:38
  pre
• 17:38
  booking
• 17:39
  thing,
• 17:39
  that's
• 17:40
  like
• 17:40
  the
• 17:40
  agreement
• 17:41
  between
• 17:42
  the
• 17:42
  school
• 17:42
  and
• 17:43
  me
• 17:43
  kind
• 17:43
  of
• 17:44
  thing.
• 17:44
  Then
• 17:45
  as
• 17:45
  far
• 17:45
  as
• 17:45
  the
• 17:46
  children
• 17:46
  ordering
• 17:47
  the
• 17:47
  book.
• 17:47
  So
• 17:47
  usually
• 17:48
  I
• 17:48
  get
• 17:48
  my
• 17:48
  checks
• 17:49
  from
• 17:49
  the
• 17:49
  school
• 17:50
  and
• 17:51
  they
• 17:51
  sometimes
• 17:51
  they
• 17:52
  use
• 17:52
  their
• 17:52
  Title
• 17:53
  1
• 17:53
  funds
• 17:54
  or
• 17:55
  parent
• 17:55
  group
• 17:55
  funds
• 17:57
  or
• 17:57
  some
• 17:57
  initiative
• 17:58
  fund
• 17:58
  that
• 17:58
  they've
• 17:59
  gotten
• 17:59
  from
• 17:59
  the
• 17:59
  state
• 18:00
  department.
• 18:01
  But
• 18:01
  I
• 18:01
  get
• 18:02
  those
• 18:02
  checks
• 18:02
  from
• 18:03
  the
• 18:03
  school.
• 18:03
  Then
• 18:04
  I
• 18:04
  also
• 18:04
  send
• 18:05
  out
• 18:05
  a
• 18:05
  pre
• 18:05
  order
• 18:06
  form
• 18:06
  for
• 18:07
  my
• 18:07
  book.
• 18:08
  If
• 18:08
  anybody
• 18:09
  would
• 18:09
  want
• 18:10
  to
• 18:10
  order
• 18:10
  a
• 18:11
  book.
• 18:12
  I
• 18:12
  send
• 18:12
  that
• 18:13
  a
• 18:13
  contact
• 18:15
  person
• 18:15
  in
• 18:15
  the
• 18:15
  school
• 18:16
  and,
• 18:17
  and
• 18:17
  they
• 18:18
  collect
• 18:18
  those
• 18:19
  and,
• 18:20
  and
• 18:20
  then
• 18:20
  they
• 18:20
  let
• 18:21
  me
• 18:21
  know
• 18:21
  the
• 18:21
  number
• 18:21
  how
• 18:22
  many
• 18:22
  books
• 18:23
  I
• 18:23
  should
• 18:23
  bring.
• 18:24
  I
• 18:25
  personalize
• 18:25
  them
• 18:26
  like
• 18:26
  to
• 18:27
  Sarah
• 18:27
  and
• 18:27
  then
• 18:28
  a
• 18:28
  little
• 18:28
  statement
• 18:29
  and
• 18:29
  then.
• 18:30
  Nice.
• 18:31
  Yeah,
• 18:32
  so
• 18:32
  it,
• 18:32
  that's
• 18:33
  worked
• 18:33
  out
• 18:33
  really
• 18:33
  well.
• 18:34
  Now
• 18:34
  I
• 18:35
  will
• 18:35
  say
• 18:35
  that
• 18:35
  just
• 18:36
  so
• 18:36
  people
• 18:36
  might
• 18:36
  know.
• 18:37
  I,
• 18:37
  I
• 18:38
  don't
• 18:38
  get
• 18:38
  a
• 18:38
  ton
• 18:39
  of
• 18:39
  book
• 18:40
  orders
• 18:40
  that
• 18:40
  way.
• 18:41
  I
• 18:41
  would
• 18:41
  say
• 18:42
  for
• 18:42
  a
• 18:42
  school
• 18:43
  the
• 18:43
  size
• 18:43
  of
• 18:44
  maybe
• 18:44
  400
• 18:45
  kids,
• 18:46
  maybe
• 18:46
  I
• 18:46
  would
• 18:46
  get
• 18:46
  12
• 18:47
  book
• 18:47
  orders
• 18:48
  roughly.
• 18:49
  But
• 18:49
  I
• 18:49
  don't
• 18:49
  know,
• 18:50
  maybe
• 18:50
  I
• 18:50
  can
• 18:51
  change
• 18:51
  the
• 18:52
  way
• 18:52
  I
• 18:52
  do
• 18:52
  things
• 18:52
  a
• 18:53
  little
• 18:53
  bit
• 18:53
  to
• 18:53
  get
• 18:53
  more
• 18:53
  book
• 18:54
  orders.
• 18:54
  I
• 18:54
  don't
• 18:54
  know,
• 18:55
  but
• 18:55
  haven't
• 18:56
  gotten
• 18:56
  a
• 18:56
  ton
• 18:57
  yet.
• 18:57
  I
• 18:57
  would
• 18:57
  say
• 18:58
  from
• 18:59
  some's
• 19:00
  better
• 19:00
  than
• 19:00
  that.
• 19:00
  No,
• 19:00
  but
• 19:00
  it's
• 19:01
  good.
• 19:01
  Thank
• 19:01
  you
• 19:01
  for
• 19:01
  sharing
• 19:01
  that
• 19:02
  because
• 19:02
  again,
• 19:03
  I
• 19:03
  as
• 19:04
  aspiring
• 19:04
  book
• 19:05
  authors
• 19:05
  are
• 19:05
  thinking,
• 19:06
  okay,
• 19:07
  how
• 19:07
  do
• 19:07
  I
• 19:08
  best
• 19:08
  utilize
• 19:09
  a
• 19:09
  school
• 19:09
  visit?
• 19:11
  So
• 19:11
  most
• 19:11
  of
• 19:11
  your
• 19:11
  revenue
• 19:12
  comes
• 19:12
  from
• 19:13
  your
• 19:13
  charge
• 19:13
  for
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  visit
• 19:14
  versus
• 19:15
  the
• 19:15
  presentation.
• 19:16
  Yes.
• 19:16
  Versus
• 19:17
  number
• 19:18
  of
• 19:18
  books
• 19:18
  you
• 19:18
  sell.
• 19:18
  Okay.
• 19:19
  Yes.
• 19:19
  So
• 19:20
  talk
• 19:20
  to
• 19:20
  us
• 19:20
  a
• 19:20
  little
• 19:21
  bit
• 19:21
  about.
• 19:21
  I
• 19:21
  notice
• 19:22
  you
• 19:22
  have
• 19:22
  three
• 19:22
  formats.
• 19:23
  You
• 19:23
  have
• 19:23
  a
• 19:24
  softcover,
• 19:24
  a
• 19:25
  hardcover
• 19:25
  and
• 19:25
  ebook.
• 19:26
  Talk
• 19:26
  to
• 19:26
  us
• 19:27
  a
• 19:27
  little
• 19:27
  bit
• 19:27
  about
• 19:27
  how
• 19:28
  are
• 19:28
  you
• 19:28
  using
• 19:29
  each
• 19:29
  one
• 19:29
  of
• 19:29
  those
• 19:30
  formats.
• 19:32
  I
• 19:32
  guess
• 19:33
  for
• 19:33
  me
• 19:33
  personally
• 19:35
  I
• 19:36
  haven't
• 19:36
  used
• 19:36
  the
• 19:36
  ebook
• 19:37
  very
• 19:37
  much
• 19:38
  other
• 19:38
  than
• 19:39
  those.
• 19:40
  So
• 19:40
  when
• 19:41
  people
• 19:41
  go
• 19:41
  on
• 19:41
  Amazon
• 19:43
  they
• 19:43
  can
• 19:43
  choose
• 19:44
  to
• 19:44
  order
• 19:44
  whichever
• 19:46
  book
• 19:46
  they
• 19:46
  want.
• 19:46
  The
• 19:47
  hardcover
• 19:47
  book,
• 19:48
  the
• 19:49
  soft
• 19:49
  cover
• 19:49
  book,
• 19:50
  or
• 19:51
  the
• 19:51
  other
• 19:51
  book,
• 19:52
  the
• 19:52
  digital
• 19:52
  book.
• 19:53
  Yeah,
• 19:53
  the
• 19:53
  ebook
• 19:54
  and
• 19:55
  the
• 19:55
  price
• 19:55
  is
• 19:55
  different.
• 19:56
  The
• 19:56
  hardcover
• 19:56
  book,
• 19:57
  of
• 19:57
  course,
• 19:57
  costs
• 19:57
  a
• 19:57
  little
• 19:58
  bit
• 19:58
  more
• 19:58
  because
• 19:59
  the
• 19:59
  printing
• 20:00
  costs
• 20:00
  are
• 20:00
  more
• 20:00
  for
• 20:00
  the
• 20:01
  hardcover.
• 20:02
  So
• 20:02
  really.
• 20:03
  So
• 20:03
  when
• 20:03
  I
• 20:03
  present
• 20:04
  in
• 20:04
  my
• 20:05
  presentations,
• 20:07
  I
• 20:07
  project
• 20:08
  up
• 20:08
  on
• 20:09
  slides
• 20:09
  and
• 20:10
  Google
• 20:10
  Docs
• 20:11
  and
• 20:11
  read
• 20:11
  the
• 20:11
  story
• 20:12
  that
• 20:12
  way.
• 20:12
  But
• 20:13
  I'll
• 20:13
  show
• 20:13
  them
• 20:13
  the
• 20:14
  hardcover
• 20:14
  and
• 20:15
  talk
• 20:15
  a
• 20:15
  little
• 20:15
  bit
• 20:16
  about
• 20:17
  what's
• 20:17
  the
• 20:17
  difference
• 20:17
  between
• 20:18
  a
• 20:18
  hardcover
• 20:18
  and
• 20:19
  a
• 20:19
  soft
• 20:19
  cover.
• 20:19
  A
• 20:20
  teaching
• 20:20
  moment
• 20:20
  there
• 20:21
  with
• 20:21
  kids.
• 20:22
  And.
• 20:23
  And.
• 20:23
  But
• 20:24
  you
• 20:24
  know
• 20:24
  what?
• 20:25
  I
• 20:25
  find
• 20:26
  that
• 20:27
  most
• 20:27
  families
• 20:28
  order
• 20:28
  the
• 20:28
  soft
• 20:29
  cover
• 20:30
  now.
• 20:30
  I
• 20:30
  find
• 20:30
  that
• 20:31
  most
• 20:31
  grandparents
• 20:32
  order
• 20:32
  the
• 20:32
  hardcover.
• 20:34
  I
• 20:34
  don't
• 20:34
  know
• 20:34
  if
• 20:34
  they
• 20:35
  just.
• 20:35
  Budgets,
• 20:36
  right.
• 20:37
  Yeah,
• 20:37
  they
• 20:37
  have
• 20:37
  a
• 20:37
  different
• 20:38
  budget
• 20:39
  and
• 20:39
  they
• 20:39
  probably
• 20:40
  experience
• 20:41
  their
• 20:41
  own
• 20:41
  children
• 20:42
  ripping
• 20:42
  pages
• 20:43
  or
• 20:43
  whatever.
• 20:44
  Anyway.
• 20:45
  But
• 20:45
  it's
• 20:46
  interesting,
• 20:47
  on
• 20:48
  Amazon,
• 20:51
  the
• 20:51
  hardcover
• 20:52
  book
• 20:52
  is
• 20:53
  not.
• 20:53
  You
• 20:53
  order
• 20:54
  the
• 20:54
  hardcover
• 20:54
  book.
• 20:55
  Right.
• 20:55
  On
• 20:55
  Amazon,
• 20:56
  but
• 20:56
  actually
• 20:58
  Ingram
• 20:58
  Sparks
• 20:59
  is
• 21:00
  the
• 21:00
  one
• 21:00
  that
• 21:01
  publishes
• 21:01
  and
• 21:02
  makes
• 21:02
  that
• 21:02
  hardcover.
• 21:03
  Right.
• 21:03
  Because
• 21:04
  Amazon
• 21:05
  doesn't
• 21:05
  print
• 21:05
  a
• 21:06
  hardcover
• 21:06
  book.
• 21:07
  No,
• 21:07
  Ingram
• 21:08
  Sparks
• 21:08
  does
• 21:09
  and
• 21:10
  Amazon
• 21:11
  doesn't.
• 21:11
  Yes.
• 21:13
  In
• 21:13
  essence,
• 21:13
  you've
• 21:14
  just
• 21:14
  set
• 21:14
  up
• 21:14
  through
• 21:15
  Amazon.
• 21:16
  Yes,
• 21:17
  but
• 21:17
  they.
• 21:18
  The
• 21:18
  distributor
• 21:19
  or
• 21:20
  not
• 21:20
  the
• 21:20
  distributor,
• 21:21
  the
• 21:21
  printer
• 21:22
  is
• 21:22
  ingramsparks,
• 21:23
  who
• 21:24
  then
• 21:24
  gets
• 21:24
  it
• 21:24
  to
• 21:25
  Amazon.
• 21:27
  Yes.
• 21:27
  And
• 21:27
  they
• 21:28
  mail
• 21:28
  it
• 21:28
  to
• 21:28
  the
• 21:28
  person.
• 21:29
  Yeah,
• 21:30
  okay.
• 21:30
  Okay.
• 21:31
  Yeah.
• 21:31
  And
• 21:32
  it's
• 21:32
  interesting,
• 21:33
  though,
• 21:33
  the
• 21:33
  ebooks.
• 21:34
  I.
• 21:35
  I
• 21:35
  don't
• 21:35
  know.
• 21:35
  I.
• 21:36
  At
• 21:36
  first
• 21:36
  I
• 21:36
  was
• 21:36
  thinking,
• 21:37
  I
• 21:37
  don't
• 21:37
  know,
• 21:37
  I
• 21:38
  like
• 21:38
  little
• 21:38
  kids
• 21:38
  to
• 21:39
  have
• 21:39
  a
• 21:39
  book
• 21:39
  in
• 21:39
  their
• 21:40
  hands
• 21:40
  to
• 21:40
  read
• 21:40
  an
• 21:41
  actual
• 21:41
  book.
• 21:42
  Yes.
• 21:42
  But
• 21:42
  then
• 21:42
  I
• 21:43
  was
• 21:43
  talking
• 21:43
  to
• 21:43
  a
• 21:44
  couple
• 21:44
  of
• 21:44
  my
• 21:45
  author
• 21:45
  friends
• 21:45
  and
• 21:46
  they
• 21:46
  said,
• 21:47
  yeah,
• 21:47
  but
• 21:47
  the
• 21:47
  world
• 21:48
  is
• 21:48
  changing
• 21:48
  and
• 21:49
  that
• 21:49
  kids
• 21:50
  are
• 21:50
  really
• 21:50
  enjoying.
• 21:51
  Kids
• 21:52
  love
• 21:52
  technology,
• 21:53
  so
• 21:53
  why
• 21:53
  not
• 21:54
  use
• 21:54
  it
• 21:54
  in
• 21:54
  a
• 21:54
  positive
• 21:55
  way
• 21:55
  and
• 21:56
  have
• 21:56
  books
• 21:57
  on
• 21:57
  the
• 21:57
  technology
• 21:58
  so
• 21:58
  that
• 21:58
  they
• 21:58
  can
• 21:59
  interact
• 21:59
  that
• 21:59
  way?
• 22:00
  So
• 22:01
  I
• 22:01
  don't
• 22:01
  know,
• 22:01
  maybe
• 22:01
  that
• 22:02
  is
• 22:02
  a
• 22:02
  revenue.
• 22:03
  Well,
• 22:03
  so.
• 22:03
  So
• 22:04
  many
• 22:04
  kids
• 22:04
  nowadays
• 22:05
  have
• 22:05
  their
• 22:05
  own
• 22:06
  iPads.
• 22:07
  Oh,
• 22:07
  yeah,
• 22:08
  Yeah.
• 22:08
  I
• 22:08
  mean,
• 22:08
  that's.
• 22:09
  You
• 22:09
  just
• 22:10
  see
• 22:10
  the
• 22:10
  more
• 22:10
  and
• 22:11
  more
• 22:11
  of
• 22:11
  that
• 22:11
  happening,
• 22:12
  for
• 22:12
  sure.
• 22:13
  So
• 22:13
  it
• 22:13
  certainly
• 22:14
  doesn't
• 22:14
  hurt
• 22:14
  to
• 22:15
  have
• 22:15
  that
• 22:15
  format
• 22:16
  available.
• 22:17
  No,
• 22:17
  that's
• 22:17
  right.
• 22:18
  Exactly.
• 22:18
  I'm
• 22:19
  glad
• 22:19
  it
• 22:19
  is
• 22:20
  available.
• 22:20
  Yes.
• 22:21
  I
• 22:21
  want
• 22:21
  to
• 22:21
  pick
• 22:21
  up
• 22:21
  on
• 22:22
  what
• 22:22
  you
• 22:22
  said
• 22:22
  earlier.
• 22:23
  You
• 22:23
  talked
• 22:23
  about
• 22:24
  seeing
• 22:25
  Miriam
• 22:25
  Laundrie,
• 22:26
  and
• 22:26
  we've
• 22:27
  talked
• 22:27
  with
• 22:28
  several
• 22:28
  of
• 22:28
  our
• 22:28
  children's
• 22:29
  book
• 22:29
  authors
• 22:30
  about
• 22:30
  Miriam
• 22:31
  laundrie.
• 22:32
  I'd
• 22:32
  say
• 22:32
  15
• 22:33
  or
• 22:33
  20%
• 22:34
  of
• 22:34
  my
• 22:35
  guests
• 22:35
  of
• 22:35
  being
• 22:36
  published
• 22:37
  at
• 22:37
  least
• 22:37
  their
• 22:37
  first
• 22:38
  book
• 22:38
  through
• 22:38
  Miriam
• 22:39
  Laundry.
• 22:40
  And
• 22:41
  so
• 22:41
  you
• 22:41
  published
• 22:42
  Annie's
• 22:42
  4th
• 22:43
  of
• 22:43
  July,
• 22:43
  your
• 22:44
  first
• 22:44
  book,
• 22:44
  through
• 22:44
  Miriam
• 22:45
  Laundrie,
• 22:46
  and
• 22:46
  you
• 22:47
  said
• 22:47
  you
• 22:47
  love
• 22:47
  the
• 22:48
  process.
• 22:49
  And
• 22:49
  that's
• 22:50
  what
• 22:50
  generally
• 22:50
  I
• 22:51
  get.
• 22:51
  A
• 22:51
  lot
• 22:51
  of
• 22:51
  people
• 22:52
  love
• 22:53
  the
• 22:53
  process.
• 22:54
  And
• 22:54
  then
• 22:55
  most
• 22:55
  of
• 22:56
  the
• 22:56
  children's
• 22:57
  book
• 22:57
  authors
• 22:57
  that
• 22:57
  I
• 22:57
  talk
• 22:58
  to,
• 22:58
  when
• 22:58
  they
• 22:58
  go
• 22:58
  to
• 22:59
  do
• 22:59
  their
• 22:59
  second
• 22:59
  book.
• 23:00
  They
• 23:00
  do
• 23:01
  it
• 23:01
  on
• 23:01
  their
• 23:01
  own.
• 23:02
  Tell
• 23:02
  us
• 23:02
  why
• 23:02
  you
• 23:03
  did
• 23:03
  that
• 23:03
  and
• 23:03
  tell
• 23:04
  us
• 23:04
  about
• 23:04
  that
• 23:04
  journey
• 23:05
  about
• 23:05
  doing
• 23:06
  your
• 23:06
  second
• 23:06
  book
• 23:08
  on
• 23:08
  your
• 23:08
  own.
• 23:09
  Okay.
• 23:10
  So,
• 23:10
  yes,
• 23:11
  her
• 23:12
  program
• 23:13
  is
• 23:13
  just
• 23:13
  a
• 23:14
  roadmap
• 23:14
  and
• 23:14
  she
• 23:14
  teaches
• 23:15
  you
• 23:15
  every
• 23:15
  step
• 23:15
  along
• 23:16
  the
• 23:16
  way.
• 23:17
  It
• 23:17
  was
• 23:17
  excellent.
• 23:18
  I'm
• 23:18
  so
• 23:19
  glad
• 23:19
  I
• 23:19
  did
• 23:19
  it.
• 23:20
  But
• 23:20
  honestly,
• 23:21
  I
• 23:21
  couldn't
• 23:22
  afford
• 23:22
  to
• 23:22
  go
• 23:22
  that
• 23:23
  route
• 23:23
  again
• 23:23
  the
• 23:24
  second
• 23:24
  time.
• 23:25
  It's
• 23:25
  expensive.
• 23:26
  Money
• 23:27
  is
• 23:27
  relative
• 23:27
  to
• 23:28
  everybody,
• 23:28
  right?
• 23:30
  You're
• 23:30
  paying
• 23:30
  for
• 23:30
  an
• 23:31
  education
• 23:31
  in
• 23:31
  a
• 23:32
  way.
• 23:32
  Yes,
• 23:32
  you
• 23:33
  are.
• 23:33
  You
• 23:33
  are.
• 23:34
  And
• 23:34
  she
• 23:34
  does
• 23:34
  a
• 23:34
  fabulous
• 23:35
  job
• 23:35
  of
• 23:35
  it.
• 23:36
  But
• 23:36
  I
• 23:36
  thought,
• 23:36
  if
• 23:37
  I
• 23:37
  want
• 23:37
  to
• 23:37
  write
• 23:37
  another
• 23:38
  book,
• 23:39
  I'm
• 23:39
  not
• 23:39
  going
• 23:39
  to
• 23:39
  be
• 23:39
  able
• 23:39
  to
• 23:40
  go
• 23:40
  that
• 23:40
  route.
• 23:41
  Plus,
• 23:41
  I
• 23:41
  was
• 23:41
  so
• 23:43
  lucky.
• 23:44
  My
• 23:44
  illustrator,
• 23:45
  she
• 23:46
  is
• 23:46
  also
• 23:47
  an
• 23:47
  editor,
• 23:49
  a
• 23:49
  book
• 23:49
  design
• 23:50
  person.
• 23:51
  She
• 23:51
  knew
• 23:51
  how
• 23:52
  to
• 23:52
  upload
• 23:52
  it
• 23:53
  on
• 23:53
  Amazon.
• 23:54
  Illustrator
• 23:55
  that
• 23:55
  did
• 23:55
  your
• 23:55
  first
• 23:56
  book
• 23:56
  through
• 23:57
  Miriam
• 23:57
  Laundry.
• 23:58
  Yes.
• 23:58
  Yes.
• 23:59
  Okay,
• 23:59
  okay.
• 24:00
  Yes.
• 24:00
  It's
• 24:01
  the
• 24:01
  same
• 24:01
  illustrator.
• 24:02
  And
• 24:02
  quite
• 24:02
  frankly,
• 24:03
  she
• 24:03
  wasn't
• 24:03
  used
• 24:04
  to
• 24:04
  turning
• 24:04
  over
• 24:05
  her
• 24:05
  file
• 24:05
  to
• 24:06
  a
• 24:07
  publisher
• 24:08
  at
• 24:08
  the
• 24:08
  end
• 24:09
  and
• 24:09
  she
• 24:09
  was
• 24:09
  worried
• 24:10
  that
• 24:10
  they
• 24:10
  might
• 24:11
  mess
• 24:11
  up
• 24:11
  her
• 24:12
  illustrations
• 24:13
  or
• 24:13
  something.
• 24:14
  But
• 24:14
  it
• 24:14
  worked
• 24:14
  out
• 24:14
  just
• 24:15
  fine.
• 24:15
  But
• 24:16
  what
• 24:16
  it
• 24:16
  said
• 24:16
  to
• 24:16
  me
• 24:17
  is,
• 24:17
  you
• 24:17
  know
• 24:17
  what?
• 24:18
  I
• 24:19
  can
• 24:19
  probably
• 24:19
  just.
• 24:20
  I
• 24:20
  would
• 24:20
  love
• 24:20
  to
• 24:20
  go
• 24:20
  with
• 24:21
  my
• 24:21
  illustrator
• 24:21
  and
• 24:22
  have
• 24:22
  her
• 24:23
  give
• 24:23
  her
• 24:24
  input.
• 24:24
  Because
• 24:24
  she
• 24:25
  lives
• 24:25
  out
• 24:25
  in
• 24:25
  Colorado.
• 24:26
  She
• 24:27
  used
• 24:27
  to
• 24:27
  teach
• 24:28
  at
• 24:28
  a
• 24:28
  university,
• 24:29
  children's
• 24:30
  writing.
• 24:31
  Writing
• 24:32
  for.
• 24:32
  To
• 24:33
  become
• 24:33
  an
• 24:33
  author.
• 24:34
  And
• 24:34
  she's
• 24:35
  joined
• 24:35
  a
• 24:35
  lot
• 24:36
  of
• 24:36
  different
• 24:36
  groups
• 24:37
  that
• 24:37
  give
• 24:38
  conferences
• 24:39
  and
• 24:39
  workshops
• 24:40
  for
• 24:40
  writing.
• 24:41
  Yes.
• 24:41
  Because
• 24:41
  I
• 24:42
  noticed
• 24:42
  that
• 24:42
  she
• 24:43
  has
• 24:44
  a
• 24:44
  lot
• 24:44
  of
• 24:44
  skills.
• 24:45
  A
• 24:45
  lot
• 24:45
  of
• 24:46
  times,
• 24:46
  you.
• 24:46
  I
• 24:46
  noticed
• 24:47
  she
• 24:47
  was
• 24:47
  not
• 24:48
  only
• 24:49
  your
• 24:49
  illustrator,
• 24:50
  but
• 24:50
  she
• 24:50
  was
• 24:50
  your
• 24:50
  cover
• 24:51
  designer,
• 24:51
  your
• 24:52
  book
• 24:52
  formatter,
• 24:53
  and
• 24:53
  your
• 24:53
  editor,
• 24:54
  which
• 24:55
  is
• 24:55
  incredible.
• 24:56
  Incredible.
• 24:57
  And
• 24:58
  you
• 24:58
  know
• 24:58
  how
• 24:58
  I
• 24:58
  found
• 24:58
  her?
• 25:00
  It
• 25:00
  was
• 25:01
  so
• 25:01
  strange.
• 25:01
  I
• 25:02
  didn't
• 25:02
  know
• 25:02
  how
• 25:02
  to
• 25:03
  find
• 25:03
  an
• 25:03
  illustrator.
• 25:04
  And
• 25:04
  Miriam
• 25:05
  Laundries
• 25:05
  said,
• 25:06
  you
• 25:06
  gotta
• 25:06
  find
• 25:06
  your
• 25:06
  own.
• 25:07
  I
• 25:07
  googled
• 25:08
  and
• 25:08
  I
• 25:08
  typed
• 25:09
  in
• 25:10
  book
• 25:10
  illustrators
• 25:11
  near
• 25:11
  me.
• 25:12
  You
• 25:12
  go
• 25:13
  restaurants,
• 25:13
  Italian
• 25:14
  restaurants
• 25:14
  near
• 25:15
  me,
• 25:15
  or
• 25:15
  whatever.
• 25:16
  You
• 25:16
  bet.
• 25:17
  I
• 25:17
  put
• 25:17
  that
• 25:17
  in
• 25:17
  and
• 25:18
  I
• 25:18
  got
• 25:18
  five
• 25:19
  that
• 25:20
  came
• 25:20
  up.
• 25:20
  I
• 25:21
  researched
• 25:21
  their
• 25:22
  websites
• 25:23
  and
• 25:23
  I
• 25:23
  really
• 25:23
  liked
• 25:24
  the
• 25:24
  one
• 25:24
  I
• 25:25
  went
• 25:25
  with.
• 25:26
  And
• 25:26
  we
• 25:26
  communicated
• 25:27
  back
• 25:27
  and
• 25:27
  forth.
• 25:28
  And
• 25:28
  then
• 25:28
  when
• 25:29
  we
• 25:29
  did
• 25:29
  the
• 25:29
  contract,
• 25:30
  I
• 25:30
  noticed
• 25:31
  she
• 25:32
  was
• 25:32
  from
• 25:32
  Denver,
• 25:33
  Colorado.
• 25:34
  That
• 25:34
  is
• 25:35
  stinks
• 25:35
  away
• 25:36
  from
• 25:36
  where
• 25:36
  I
• 25:36
  am.
• 25:37
  I
• 25:37
  thought,
• 25:37
  near
• 25:37
  me.
• 25:38
  Denver,
• 25:38
  Colorado's
• 25:39
  near
• 25:39
  me.
• 25:43
  On
• 25:43
  the
• 25:43
  Internet.
• 25:44
  It's
• 25:44
  right
• 25:44
  next
• 25:45
  door.
• 25:46
  Yes.
• 25:47
  I
• 25:48
  just
• 25:48
  figured
• 25:48
  it
• 25:48
  was
• 25:48
  meant
• 25:49
  to
• 25:49
  be.
• 25:49
  And
• 25:50
  we
• 25:50
  have
• 25:50
  just
• 25:51
  worked
• 25:51
  beautifully
• 25:52
  together.
• 25:53
  I
• 25:53
  was
• 25:53
  really
• 25:53
  excited
• 25:54
  someone
• 25:55
  to
• 25:55
  have.
• 25:55
  That
• 25:56
  many
• 25:56
  skills
• 25:56
  because
• 25:57
  I.
• 25:57
  We
• 25:57
  got
• 25:58
  lucky
• 25:58
  too,
• 25:58
  because
• 25:59
  we
• 25:59
  independently
• 26:00
  published
• 26:01
  our
• 26:01
  first
• 26:01
  and
• 26:02
  second
• 26:02
  book.
• 26:03
  And
• 26:04
  what
• 26:04
  we
• 26:04
  were
• 26:05
  lucky
• 26:05
  to
• 26:06
  have
• 26:06
  happen
• 26:07
  is
• 26:07
  I
• 26:07
  found
• 26:07
  an
• 26:08
  illustrator.
• 26:08
  Our
• 26:09
  illustrator
• 26:09
  is
• 26:09
  in
• 26:10
  England
• 26:11
  oh,
• 26:11
  okay.
• 26:12
  And
• 26:13
  again,
• 26:13
  one
• 26:13
  of
• 26:13
  those
• 26:14
  go
• 26:14
  on
• 26:14
  the
• 26:15
  Internet
• 26:15
  and
• 26:16
  Google,
• 26:16
  and
• 26:17
  I
• 26:17
  wanted
• 26:17
  to
• 26:17
  find
• 26:18
  someone
• 26:18
  that
• 26:20
  their
• 26:20
  illustrations
• 26:21
  were
• 26:22
  comparable
• 26:23
  to
• 26:23
  what
• 26:23
  I
• 26:23
  was
• 26:23
  looking
• 26:24
  for.
• 26:24
  And
• 26:24
  that's
• 26:25
  how
• 26:25
  I
• 26:25
  ended
• 26:25
  up
• 26:25
  that
• 26:26
  way.
• 26:26
  But
• 26:26
  I
• 26:27
  ended
• 26:27
  up
• 26:27
  with
• 26:28
  a
• 26:28
  website
• 26:28
  designer
• 26:29
  who
• 26:30
  also
• 26:30
  happened
• 26:31
  to
• 26:31
  be
• 26:31
  a
• 26:31
  published
• 26:32
  author.
• 26:33
  Oh,
• 26:33
  wow.
• 26:34
  And
• 26:34
  on
• 26:35
  top
• 26:35
  of
• 26:35
  that,
• 26:36
  he
• 26:36
  ended
• 26:37
  up
• 26:37
  being
• 26:37
  our
• 26:38
  book
• 26:38
  formatter
• 26:39
  and
• 26:39
  our
• 26:39
  book
• 26:39
  cover
• 26:40
  designer.
• 26:41
  Wow.
• 26:41
  Yeah.
• 26:42
  You
• 26:42
  hit
• 26:42
  jackpot.
• 26:43
  Yeah.
• 26:44
  And
• 26:44
  I'm
• 26:44
  finding
• 26:45
  that
• 26:45
  a
• 26:45
  lot
• 26:45
  of
• 26:45
  times
• 26:46
  that's
• 26:46
  what
• 26:46
  happens
• 26:47
  is
• 26:47
  that
• 26:48
  because
• 26:48
  of
• 26:49
  the
• 26:49
  revenue
• 26:50
  that
• 26:50
  some
• 26:50
  of
• 26:50
  them
• 26:51
  generate,
• 26:51
  they
• 26:51
  don't
• 26:52
  make
• 26:52
  enough
• 26:52
  money
• 26:52
  as
• 26:53
  a,
• 26:53
  let's
• 26:53
  say,
• 26:53
  a
• 26:54
  website
• 26:54
  designer.
• 26:55
  They
• 26:55
  take
• 26:56
  on
• 26:56
  other
• 26:57
  skill
• 26:57
  sets
• 26:58
  to
• 26:58
  help
• 26:59
  offset
• 27:00
  their
• 27:00
  income.
• 27:01
  And
• 27:01
  that's
• 27:02
  why
• 27:02
  you
• 27:02
  end
• 27:02
  up
• 27:02
  with
• 27:02
  all
• 27:03
  these
• 27:03
  people
• 27:03
  that
• 27:04
  have
• 27:04
  all
• 27:04
  these
• 27:05
  skills.
• 27:05
  And
• 27:06
  it
• 27:06
  helps
• 27:06
  independent
• 27:07
  children's
• 27:08
  book
• 27:08
  authors
• 27:08
  like
• 27:09
  ourselves.
• 27:09
  Absolutely.
• 27:10
  That's
• 27:10
  incredible
• 27:11
  that
• 27:11
  your
• 27:12
  illustrator
• 27:13
  has
• 27:13
  all
• 27:13
  those
• 27:13
  skills.
• 27:15
  And
• 27:15
  didn't
• 27:15
  she
• 27:15
  do
• 27:15
  a
• 27:16
  good
• 27:16
  job
• 27:16
  on.
• 27:16
  She's
• 27:17
  very
• 27:17
  colorful.
• 27:18
  Yes.
• 27:19
  And
• 27:19
  I
• 27:19
  want
• 27:20
  to
• 27:20
  talk
• 27:20
  to
• 27:20
  you
• 27:20
  about
• 27:20
  that.
• 27:21
  I'm
• 27:21
  always
• 27:21
  looking
• 27:22
  at
• 27:22
  illustration
• 27:23
  techniques,
• 27:23
  and
• 27:24
  one
• 27:24
  of
• 27:24
  the
• 27:24
  things
• 27:24
  that
• 27:24
  I
• 27:25
  really
• 27:25
  liked
• 27:25
  in
• 27:25
  your
• 27:26
  current
• 27:26
  book
• 27:27
  is
• 27:27
  that
• 27:28
  she
• 27:28
  incorporated
• 27:29
  a
• 27:29
  map
• 27:31
  to
• 27:31
  tell
• 27:31
  the
• 27:31
  story.
• 27:32
  So
• 27:32
  was
• 27:32
  that
• 27:32
  your
• 27:33
  idea
• 27:33
  or
• 27:33
  her
• 27:34
  idea?
• 27:36
  Her
• 27:36
  idea.
• 27:36
  Yes.
• 27:37
  The
• 27:37
  first
• 27:38
  time
• 27:38
  we
• 27:38
  had
• 27:38
  to
• 27:39
  go
• 27:39
  back
• 27:39
  to
• 27:40
  Amazon
• 27:40
  because
• 27:41
  the
• 27:41
  first
• 27:41
  time
• 27:43
  that
• 27:43
  map
• 27:43
  didn't
• 27:44
  show
• 27:44
  up
• 27:44
  very
• 27:44
  well
• 27:44
  on
• 27:45
  the
• 27:45
  pages.
• 27:45
  Okay.
• 27:46
  So
• 27:46
  she
• 27:46
  had
• 27:46
  to
• 27:46
  do
• 27:47
  whatever
• 27:47
  she
• 27:47
  had
• 27:47
  to
• 27:48
  do
• 27:48
  and
• 27:48
  darken
• 27:48
  it
• 27:49
  a
• 27:49
  little
• 27:49
  bit.
• 27:49
  And
• 27:50
  now
• 27:50
  it's
• 27:50
  really
• 27:50
  nice.
• 27:51
  Yeah.
• 27:51
  And
• 27:51
  it
• 27:52
  comes
• 27:52
  up
• 27:52
  beautifully
• 27:53
  on
• 27:53
  the
• 27:53
  iPad,
• 27:53
  too,
• 27:54
  so
• 27:54
  good.
• 27:55
  Oh,
• 27:55
  good.
• 27:55
  That's
• 27:56
  good
• 27:56
  to
• 27:56
  know.
• 27:56
  Yeah.
• 27:56
  Good
• 27:56
  to
• 27:57
  know
• 27:57
  for
• 27:57
  sure.
• 27:57
  Yes.
• 27:58
  I
• 27:58
  thought
• 27:58
  she
• 27:59
  used.
• 27:59
  She
• 27:59
  did
• 27:59
  that.
• 28:00
  And
• 28:00
  then
• 28:00
  that
• 28:00
  other
• 28:01
  technique
• 28:01
  that
• 28:01
  she
• 28:02
  used,
• 28:02
  was
• 28:03
  it
• 28:03
  called
• 28:03
  sepia,
• 28:04
  where
• 28:05
  it's
• 28:05
  just
• 28:05
  that
• 28:06
  old?
• 28:06
  Yeah.
• 28:06
  Like
• 28:07
  a
• 28:07
  golden
• 28:07
  look
• 28:08
  where
• 28:08
  you
• 28:09
  have
• 28:09
  the
• 28:09
  tractor.
• 28:10
  The
• 28:10
  old
• 28:10
  tractor
• 28:11
  in
• 28:11
  the
• 28:11
  field.
• 28:13
  Yeah.
• 28:13
  So
• 28:14
  really
• 28:14
  quite
• 28:15
  a
• 28:15
  unique
• 28:15
  technique
• 28:16
  because
• 28:16
  I
• 28:16
  hadn't
• 28:16
  seen
• 28:17
  that
• 28:17
  before.
• 28:17
  Were
• 28:18
  the
• 28:18
  characters
• 28:18
  in
• 28:18
  the
• 28:19
  story
• 28:20
  yourself
• 28:20
  and
• 28:21
  your
• 28:21
  family?
• 28:23
  Oh,
• 28:23
  I
• 28:24
  guess
• 28:24
  was
• 28:24
  the
• 28:24
  grandma.
• 28:25
  It
• 28:25
  boiled
• 28:26
  down
• 28:26
  to
• 28:26
  me
• 28:26
  being
• 28:26
  the
• 28:26
  grandma
• 28:27
  because
• 28:27
  my
• 28:27
  illustrators
• 28:28
  needed
• 28:28
  a
• 28:29
  picture
• 28:30
  of
• 28:30
  a
• 28:30
  grandma,
• 28:31
  and
• 28:31
  I
• 28:31
  thought,
• 28:31
  I'm
• 28:32
  grandma.
• 28:32
  I
• 28:32
  guess
• 28:32
  I
• 28:33
  could
• 28:33
  be.
• 28:34
  Absolutely.
• 28:35
  So
• 28:36
  that
• 28:36
  was.
• 28:36
  Now
• 28:37
  the
• 28:37
  kids
• 28:37
  don't
• 28:38
  look
• 28:38
  like
• 28:38
  my
• 28:38
  grandchildren.
• 28:40
  Okay.
• 28:40
  Or.
• 28:40
  Yeah.
• 28:41
  But
• 28:43
  Annie's
• 28:43
  fourth
• 28:44
  of
• 28:44
  July,
• 28:44
  they
• 28:44
  had
• 28:45
  the
• 28:45
  same
• 28:45
  family.
• 28:47
  My
• 28:47
  family
• 28:47
  of
• 28:48
  origin
• 28:49
  had
• 28:50
  four
• 28:50
  children
• 28:50
  in
• 28:50
  it.
• 28:51
  I
• 28:51
  was
• 28:52
  the
• 28:52
  third
• 28:52
  in
• 28:52
  the
• 28:52
  order.
• 28:53
  So
• 28:53
  I
• 28:53
  wanted
• 28:54
  to
• 28:54
  go
• 28:54
  along
• 28:54
  with
• 28:54
  that
• 28:55
  same
• 28:55
  family
• 28:55
  in
• 28:56
  this
• 28:56
  story.
• 28:57
  And
• 28:57
  so
• 28:57
  that's
• 28:58
  how
• 28:58
  that
• 28:59
  happened.
• 28:59
  Okay.
• 29:00
  Okay.
• 29:00
  Yeah.
• 29:01
  So,
• 29:01
  yeah,
• 29:01
  in
• 29:02
  your
• 29:02
  second
• 29:02
  book,
• 29:03
  you're.
• 29:04
  You're
• 29:04
  independently
• 29:05
  published.
• 29:06
  Yeah.
• 29:07
  Through
• 29:07
  Amazon.
• 29:09
  Through
• 29:10
  Amazon.
• 29:10
  Yeah.
• 29:12
  You
• 29:12
  also
• 29:12
  downloaded
• 29:13
  your
• 29:13
  book
• 29:13
  files
• 29:14
  to
• 29:14
  Ingram
• 29:14
  Sparks.
• 29:15
  Yes,
• 29:16
  yes.
• 29:17
  Yes.
• 29:17
  Yeah.
• 29:18
  Okay,
• 29:18
  tell
• 29:19
  us
• 29:19
  a
• 29:19
  little
• 29:19
  bit
• 29:20
  about.
• 29:20
  I
• 29:20
  found
• 29:22
  with
• 29:22
  your
• 29:22
  book.
• 29:24
  When
• 29:24
  you
• 29:25
  were
• 29:25
  discussing
• 29:26
  your
• 29:26
  second
• 29:27
  book
• 29:27
  versus
• 29:27
  your
• 29:28
  first
• 29:28
  book,
• 29:29
  it
• 29:29
  was
• 29:29
  the
• 29:29
  same
• 29:29
  illustrator,
• 29:30
  correct?
• 29:31
  Correct.
• 29:32
  Was
• 29:33
  there
• 29:33
  any
• 29:33
  difference?
• 29:34
  Because
• 29:35
  now
• 29:35
  you
• 29:35
  weren't
• 29:36
  using
• 29:36
  Miriam
• 29:37
  Laundrie
• 29:37
  as
• 29:37
  like
• 29:38
  the
• 29:38
  go
• 29:38
  to
• 29:39
  publisher.
• 29:40
  Now
• 29:40
  you're
• 29:41
  directly
• 29:41
  working
• 29:42
  with
• 29:42
  the
• 29:42
  illustrator
• 29:44
  without
• 29:44
  Miriam
• 29:45
  Laundrie
• 29:45
  involved.
• 29:46
  Tell
• 29:46
  us
• 29:46
  about
• 29:47
  that
• 29:47
  experience.
• 29:48
  Did
• 29:48
  you
• 29:48
  feel
• 29:48
  any
• 29:49
  changes?
• 29:50
  Was
• 29:50
  there
• 29:50
  any
• 29:51
  difference
• 29:51
  other
• 29:52
  than
• 29:52
  any
• 29:52
  control?
• 29:54
  Yeah,
• 29:54
  not
• 29:54
  many.
• 29:55
  The
• 29:55
  second
• 29:56
  book
• 29:57
  had
• 29:58
  more
• 29:58
  word.
• 29:58
  The
• 29:59
  word
• 29:59
  count
• 29:59
  was
• 30:00
  longer
• 30:00
  for
• 30:00
  the
• 30:00
  second
• 30:01
  book.
• 30:02
  Miriam's
• 30:03
  program
• 30:04
  likes
• 30:04
  to
• 30:04
  hold
• 30:04
  you
• 30:05
  pretty
• 30:05
  close
• 30:06
  to
• 30:06
  that.
• 30:06
  1,000
• 30:07
  words
• 30:08
  less.
• 30:09
  The
• 30:09
  second
• 30:10
  book
• 30:10
  just.
• 30:11
  I
• 30:11
  don't
• 30:11
  know
• 30:11
  if
• 30:12
  it
• 30:12
  had
• 30:12
  1200
• 30:13
  or
• 30:13
  1300
• 30:15
  words.
• 30:15
  So
• 30:16
  I
• 30:16
  didn't
• 30:16
  have
• 30:16
  to
• 30:16
  worry
• 30:17
  as
• 30:17
  much
• 30:17
  about
• 30:18
  that.
• 30:18
  And
• 30:18
  my
• 30:19
  illustrator
• 30:19
  said,
• 30:20
  she's
• 30:21
  knowledgeable.
• 30:21
  And
• 30:21
  she
• 30:21
  said,
• 30:22
  no,
• 30:22
  Jeannie,
• 30:22
  that
• 30:23
  should
• 30:23
  be
• 30:23
  okay.
• 30:24
  That
• 30:24
  was
• 30:24
  one
• 30:24
  difference
• 30:25
  I
• 30:25
  noticed.
• 30:26
  And
• 30:26
  then
• 30:27
  just
• 30:27
  the
• 30:28
  process
• 30:28
  to
• 30:28
  get
• 30:28
  it
• 30:29
  onto
• 30:29
  Amazon
• 30:30
  was
• 30:31
  actually
• 30:31
  a
• 30:32
  little
• 30:32
  faster
• 30:33
  being
• 30:33
  self
• 30:34
  published
• 30:34
  because
• 30:35
  in
• 30:35
  Miriam's
• 30:36
  program,
• 30:37
  you
• 30:37
  had
• 30:37
  to
• 30:37
  turn
• 30:37
  your
• 30:38
  file
• 30:38
  on
• 30:38
  for
• 30:39
  them
• 30:39
  to
• 30:39
  review
• 30:40
  like
• 30:40
  three
• 30:40
  different
• 30:41
  times
• 30:41
  because
• 30:42
  they
• 30:42
  want
• 30:43
  your
• 30:43
  book
• 30:43
  to
• 30:43
  be
• 30:43
  perfect
• 30:44
  because
• 30:44
  their
• 30:44
  name's
• 30:45
  on
• 30:45
  it.
• 30:45
  And
• 30:45
  so
• 30:46
  the
• 30:46
  end
• 30:47
  process
• 30:47
  took
• 30:48
  a
• 30:48
  little
• 30:48
  bit
• 30:48
  longer
• 30:49
  for
• 30:49
  Miriam's
• 30:50
  program
• 30:51
  than
• 30:51
  because
• 30:51
  we'd
• 30:52
  been
• 30:52
  working
• 30:52
  with
• 30:52
  the
• 30:52
  book
• 30:53
  for
• 30:53
  a
• 30:53
  long
• 30:53
  time
• 30:53
  and
• 30:54
  we
• 30:54
  knew
• 30:54
  it
• 30:54
  was
• 30:54
  the
• 30:54
  way
• 30:55
  we
• 30:55
  wanted
• 30:55
  it.
• 30:55
  So
• 30:55
  that
• 30:56
  process
• 30:56
  actually
• 30:57
  was
• 30:57
  faster.
• 30:59
  And
• 30:59
  I
• 30:59
  can
• 30:59
  understand
• 31:00
  that
• 31:00
  for
• 31:00
  sure
• 31:00
  because
• 31:02
  going
• 31:02
  through
• 31:03
  a
• 31:03
  third
• 31:04
  party
• 31:04
  versus
• 31:05
  now,
• 31:05
  you're
• 31:05
  like
• 31:06
  the
• 31:06
  general
• 31:06
  manager
• 31:07
  of
• 31:07
  your
• 31:08
  own
• 31:08
  book
• 31:08
  publishing
• 31:09
  business.
• 31:09
  Let's
• 31:10
  talk
• 31:10
  about
• 31:10
  your
• 31:11
  website
• 31:11
  development.
• 31:12
  Did
• 31:12
  you
• 31:14
  start
• 31:14
  your
• 31:15
  website
• 31:16
  prior
• 31:16
  to
• 31:16
  your
• 31:17
  book
• 31:17
  or
• 31:17
  after
• 31:18
  you
• 31:19
  wrote
• 31:19
  your
• 31:19
  first
• 31:20
  book
• 31:20
  or
• 31:20
  tell
• 31:20
  us
• 31:21
  about
• 31:21
  that.
• 31:21
  Process
• 31:22
  that
• 31:23
  happened
• 31:23
  in
• 31:24
  the
• 31:24
  initial
• 31:24
  part
• 31:25
  of
• 31:25
  being
• 31:25
  in
• 31:25
  Miriam
• 31:26
  Laundrie's
• 31:26
  program?
• 31:27
  Because
• 31:27
  she
• 31:28
  said
• 31:28
  authors
• 31:29
  need
• 31:29
  a
• 31:29
  website
• 31:30
  and
• 31:31
  you
• 31:31
  need
• 31:31
  to
• 31:31
  create
• 31:32
  one.
• 31:32
  That
• 31:33
  was
• 31:33
  one
• 31:33
  of
• 31:33
  our
• 31:33
  assignments.
• 31:34
  I
• 31:35
  am
• 31:35
  not
• 31:36
  good
• 31:36
  with
• 31:36
  technology.
• 31:38
  I'm
• 31:38
  not
• 31:38
  that
• 31:38
  comfortable
• 31:39
  with
• 31:39
  it.
• 31:39
  Okay.
• 31:40
  I
• 31:40
  thought
• 31:41
  to
• 31:41
  myself,
• 31:42
  what
• 31:42
  can
• 31:42
  I
• 31:42
  do
• 31:43
  here?
• 31:43
  I
• 31:43
  can
• 31:44
  spend
• 31:44
  hours
• 31:44
  and
• 31:44
  hours
• 31:45
  and
• 31:45
  hours
• 31:45
  trying
• 31:45
  to
• 31:46
  figure
• 31:46
  this
• 31:46
  out,
• 31:47
  or
• 31:47
  maybe
• 31:48
  I
• 31:48
  can
• 31:48
  find
• 31:49
  someone
• 31:49
  that
• 31:50
  could
• 31:50
  help
• 31:50
  me
• 31:50
  with
• 31:51
  that.
• 31:52
  And
• 31:52
  so
• 31:54
  I
• 31:54
  live
• 31:54
  in
• 31:55
  a
• 31:55
  town
• 31:55
  where
• 31:55
  there
• 31:55
  are
• 31:55
  two
• 31:56
  colleges
• 31:57
  and
• 31:57
  I
• 31:58
  go
• 31:58
  to
• 31:58
  a
• 31:58
  church
• 31:59
  where
• 31:59
  the
• 31:59
  college
• 32:00
  ministry
• 32:00
  is
• 32:01
  really
• 32:01
  large.
• 32:02
  And
• 32:02
  I
• 32:03
  thought
• 32:03
  to
• 32:03
  myself,
• 32:03
  I
• 32:03
  bet
• 32:04
  there's
• 32:04
  somebody
• 32:05
  in
• 32:05
  that
• 32:05
  college
• 32:05
  ministry
• 32:06
  that
• 32:06
  would
• 32:07
  like
• 32:07
  to
• 32:07
  make
• 32:07
  some
• 32:08
  extra
• 32:08
  money
• 32:08
  before
• 32:09
  Christmas
• 32:10
  and,
• 32:11
  you
• 32:12
  know,
• 32:12
  give
• 32:12
  them
• 32:12
  something
• 32:13
  on
• 32:13
  their
• 32:14
  resume
• 32:14
  that
• 32:14
  they
• 32:15
  started
• 32:16
  a
• 32:16
  website
• 32:16
  for
• 32:17
  an
• 32:17
  author.
• 32:17
  I
• 32:18
  reached
• 32:18
  out
• 32:18
  to
• 32:19
  that
• 32:19
  group
• 32:19
  leader
• 32:20
  and
• 32:21
  he
• 32:22
  put
• 32:22
  out
• 32:22
  the
• 32:22
  Word.
• 32:23
  And
• 32:23
  I
• 32:23
  just
• 32:23
  got
• 32:24
  a
• 32:24
  wonderful
• 32:25
  gal,
• 32:26
  and
• 32:26
  she
• 32:27
  and
• 32:27
  I
• 32:27
  work
• 32:27
  together
• 32:28
  very
• 32:28
  well
• 32:28
  and
• 32:28
  she
• 32:29
  created
• 32:29
  it
• 32:29
  for
• 32:30
  me
• 32:30
  and
• 32:31
  she
• 32:31
  still
• 32:31
  uploads
• 32:32
  things
• 32:32
  for
• 32:32
  me
• 32:33
  and
• 32:33
  does
• 32:33
  things
• 32:33
  for
• 32:34
  me.
• 32:34
  Yeah.
• 32:35
  It's
• 32:35
  interesting
• 32:36
  you
• 32:36
  should
• 32:36
  say,
• 32:36
  because
• 32:37
  that's
• 32:37
  a
• 32:37
  great
• 32:37
  story,
• 32:38
  because
• 32:38
  what
• 32:39
  I
• 32:39
  did
• 32:39
  is
• 32:39
  I
• 32:40
  did
• 32:40
  exactly
• 32:40
  the
• 32:41
  same
• 32:41
  thing
• 32:41
  as
• 32:41
  you
• 32:42
  when
• 32:42
  I
• 32:42
  was
• 32:42
  developing
• 32:43
  our
• 32:44
  website.
• 32:44
  And
• 32:44
  I
• 32:44
  have
• 32:45
  two
• 32:45
  different
• 32:45
  websites,
• 32:46
  but
• 32:46
  I
• 32:47
  reached
• 32:47
  out
• 32:47
  to
• 32:47
  a
• 32:47
  college
• 32:48
  and
• 32:48
  I
• 32:48
  said,
• 32:49
  can
• 32:49
  you
• 32:49
  help
• 32:50
  me?
• 32:50
  And
• 32:50
  they
• 32:50
  said,
• 32:51
  we
• 32:51
  have
• 32:51
  one
• 32:52
  graduate
• 32:53
  who
• 32:53
  just
• 32:54
  started
• 32:54
  his
• 32:54
  own
• 32:55
  company
• 32:55
  and
• 32:56
  I
• 32:56
  think
• 32:56
  he'd
• 32:57
  be
• 32:57
  ideal
• 32:57
  for
• 32:57
  you.
• 32:58
  And
• 32:58
  he
• 32:58
  was
• 32:58
  one
• 32:59
  of
• 32:59
  our
• 32:59
  best
• 32:59
  students.
• 33:00
  And
• 33:00
  just
• 33:01
  so
• 33:01
  everyone
• 33:02
  knows,
• 33:02
  because
• 33:02
  I've
• 33:03
  never
• 33:03
  talked
• 33:03
  about
• 33:04
  this
• 33:04
  before,
• 33:05
  but
• 33:05
  reach
• 33:05
  out
• 33:06
  to
• 33:06
  your
• 33:06
  local
• 33:07
  colleges
• 33:07
  and
• 33:08
  you
• 33:08
  will
• 33:08
  be
• 33:09
  pleasantly
• 33:09
  surprised.
• 33:10
  And
• 33:10
  a
• 33:11
  lot
• 33:11
  of
• 33:11
  times
• 33:12
  these
• 33:12
  students
• 33:13
  are
• 33:13
  trying
• 33:13
  to
• 33:13
  start
• 33:14
  their
• 33:14
  own
• 33:14
  business,
• 33:15
  and
• 33:15
  so
• 33:15
  they've
• 33:16
  got
• 33:16
  really
• 33:16
  great
• 33:16
  skills.
• 33:17
  They
• 33:17
  just
• 33:17
  need
• 33:18
  some
• 33:18
  support.
• 33:19
  And.
• 33:19
  And
• 33:20
  so
• 33:20
  you
• 33:20
  can
• 33:20
  get
• 33:20
  them
• 33:21
  at
• 33:21
  a
• 33:21
  relatively
• 33:22
  inexpensive
• 33:23
  cost,
• 33:23
  but
• 33:24
  get
• 33:24
  excellent
• 33:25
  work.
• 33:26
  Yes.
• 33:26
  And
• 33:26
  that
• 33:27
  is
• 33:27
  spot
• 33:27
  on.
• 33:28
  That
• 33:28
  was
• 33:28
  my
• 33:29
  experience,
• 33:29
  too.
• 33:30
  Yeah.
• 33:30
  So
• 33:31
  what
• 33:31
  has
• 33:31
  changed
• 33:32
  for
• 33:32
  you
• 33:32
  from
• 33:33
  when
• 33:33
  you
• 33:33
  did
• 33:33
  your
• 33:34
  initial
• 33:34
  website
• 33:35
  to
• 33:35
  now
• 33:36
  where
• 33:36
  your
• 33:36
  website
• 33:36
  is
• 33:37
  now?
• 33:37
  How
• 33:38
  much
• 33:38
  time
• 33:38
  are
• 33:38
  you
• 33:39
  engaged
• 33:39
  with
• 33:39
  it?
• 33:40
  And
• 33:41
  because
• 33:42
  one
• 33:42
  thing
• 33:42
  I
• 33:42
  noticed
• 33:43
  is
• 33:43
  you
• 33:43
  don't
• 33:43
  have
• 33:44
  your
• 33:44
  book
• 33:45
  covers
• 33:46
  on
• 33:46
  your
• 33:46
  website.
• 33:47
  Yes,
• 33:48
  yes.
• 33:49
  You
• 33:49
  know
• 33:49
  what?
• 33:49
  I
• 33:50
  don't
• 33:50
  engage
• 33:50
  with
• 33:51
  it
• 33:51
  all
• 33:51
  that.
• 33:52
  Okay.
• 33:53
  I
• 33:53
  thought.
• 33:53
  I
• 33:54
  thought
• 33:54
  I
• 33:54
  would,
• 33:55
  but
• 33:55
  I
• 33:55
  don't.
• 33:56
  And
• 33:56
  I
• 33:56
  just
• 33:56
  don't
• 33:58
  enjoy
• 33:58
  it
• 33:58
  that
• 33:58
  much.
• 33:59
  But
• 33:59
  also,
• 34:00
  I've
• 34:01
  tracked.
• 34:01
  She
• 34:01
  and
• 34:02
  I
• 34:02
  have
• 34:02
  kind
• 34:02
  of
• 34:02
  looked
• 34:03
  to
• 34:03
  see
• 34:03
  how
• 34:03
  much
• 34:04
  are
• 34:04
  people
• 34:04
  actually
• 34:05
  looking
• 34:05
  at
• 34:05
  my
• 34:05
  website.
• 34:07
  Not
• 34:07
  that
• 34:07
  much
• 34:08
  now.
• 34:08
  That
• 34:08
  might
• 34:08
  be
• 34:08
  because
• 34:09
  I
• 34:09
  don't
• 34:09
  update
• 34:10
  it
• 34:10
  and
• 34:10
  put
• 34:10
  a
• 34:11
  lot
• 34:11
  of
• 34:11
  new
• 34:11
  stuff
• 34:11
  on.
• 34:12
  But
• 34:12
  even
• 34:12
  at
• 34:12
  the
• 34:12
  beginning
• 34:13
  when
• 34:13
  I
• 34:13
  was
• 34:14
  updating
• 34:14
  it
• 34:15
  frequently,
• 34:16
  I
• 34:16
  just
• 34:16
  didn't
• 34:17
  get
• 34:17
  much
• 34:17
  traffic
• 34:18
  on
• 34:18
  it.
• 34:18
  And
• 34:19
  so
• 34:20
  I
• 34:20
  thought,
• 34:20
  I
• 34:21
  just
• 34:21
  really
• 34:22
  don't
• 34:22
  want
• 34:22
  to
• 34:22
  spend
• 34:22
  my
• 34:22
  time,
• 34:23
  though.
• 34:24
  Yeah,
• 34:24
  no.
• 34:24
  And
• 34:25
  that's
• 34:25
  what
• 34:25
  you
• 34:25
  have
• 34:25
  to
• 34:25
  make
• 34:26
  the
• 34:26
  decision
• 34:26
  to
• 34:27
  do.
• 34:27
  Like
• 34:28
  some
• 34:28
  people
• 34:29
  do
• 34:29
  a
• 34:30
  blog.
• 34:31
  Yes.
• 34:31
  Some
• 34:32
  people
• 34:33
  are
• 34:33
  quite
• 34:33
  engaged
• 34:34
  with
• 34:34
  their
• 34:34
  websites
• 34:35
  with
• 34:36
  video
• 34:36
  and
• 34:37
  stuff
• 34:37
  like
• 34:37
  that.
• 34:37
  So,
• 34:38
  yeah,
• 34:38
  it
• 34:38
  really
• 34:39
  is
• 34:39
  entirely
• 34:40
  up
• 34:40
  to
• 34:41
  what
• 34:41
  your
• 34:41
  comfort
• 34:41
  level
• 34:42
  is.
• 34:43
  And
• 34:43
  then
• 34:43
  again,
• 34:43
  if
• 34:44
  you've
• 34:44
  got
• 34:44
  somebody
• 34:45
  downloading
• 34:45
  the
• 34:46
  files
• 34:46
  and
• 34:46
  everything,
• 34:47
  you
• 34:47
  know,
• 34:47
  that
• 34:47
  comes
• 34:48
  at
• 34:48
  a
• 34:48
  cost.
• 34:49
  So,
• 34:49
  you
• 34:50
  know,
• 34:50
  is
• 34:50
  the
• 34:51
  cost
• 34:51
  offsetting
• 34:52
  it
• 34:52
  through
• 34:53
  the
• 34:53
  revenue
• 34:53
  you're
• 34:53
  generating
• 34:54
  through
• 34:54
  your
• 34:54
  books?
• 34:55
  You
• 34:55
  just
• 34:55
  never
• 34:55
  know.
• 34:56
  Have
• 34:56
  you
• 34:56
  ever
• 34:56
  talked
• 34:57
  to,
• 34:57
  just
• 34:57
  for
• 34:58
  aspiring
• 35:00
  authors
• 35:00
  about
• 35:01
  the
• 35:01
  importance
• 35:02
  when.
• 35:03
  If
• 35:03
  they
• 35:03
  use
• 35:04
  Amazon
• 35:05
  to
• 35:05
  do
• 35:05
  their
• 35:05
  print
• 35:06
  on
• 35:06
  demand,
• 35:07
  the
• 35:07
  importance
• 35:08
  of
• 35:09
  picking
• 35:09
  three
• 35:10
  categories
• 35:11
  for
• 35:11
  their
• 35:11
  book?
• 35:13
  I
• 35:13
  haven't
• 35:14
  got
• 35:15
  right
• 35:15
  into
• 35:15
  that.
• 35:16
  Thank
• 35:17
  you
• 35:17
  for
• 35:17
  sharing
• 35:17
  that.
• 35:18
  That
• 35:18
  was
• 35:18
  a
• 35:19
  real
• 35:19
  valuable
• 35:19
  piece.
• 35:20
  I
• 35:20
  thought
• 35:20
  of
• 35:20
  Miriam
• 35:21
  Laundrie's
• 35:21
  program
• 35:22
  because
• 35:23
  everybody
• 35:24
  that
• 35:24
  has
• 35:24
  written
• 35:25
  and
• 35:25
  been
• 35:26
  a
• 35:26
  part
• 35:26
  of
• 35:26
  her
• 35:26
  program
• 35:27
  has
• 35:28
  earned
• 35:29
  bestseller
• 35:30
  on
• 35:31
  Amazon
• 35:32
  status
• 35:33
  because
• 35:33
  of
• 35:33
  those
• 35:34
  three
• 35:34
  categories
• 35:35
  that
• 35:35
  you
• 35:35
  pick.
• 35:36
  That's
• 35:36
  right.
• 35:37
  And
• 35:37
  so
• 35:37
  tell
• 35:37
  us
• 35:37
  a
• 35:37
  bit
• 35:38
  about
• 35:38
  that
• 35:39
  yourselves.
• 35:39
  I'm
• 35:40
  sure
• 35:40
  that
• 35:41
  your
• 35:41
  three
• 35:41
  categories
• 35:42
  that
• 35:42
  you
• 35:42
  chose
• 35:43
  for
• 35:44
  fourth
• 35:44
  of
• 35:44
  July
• 35:45
  is
• 35:45
  different
• 35:46
  from
• 35:47
  your
• 35:47
  current
• 35:48
  book.
• 35:48
  Yes.
• 35:48
  So,
• 35:49
  yeah,
• 35:49
  talk
• 35:49
  to
• 35:49
  us
• 35:50
  about
• 35:50
  that.
• 35:50
  Okay,
• 35:51
  so
• 35:51
  the.
• 35:51
  For
• 35:52
  Annie's
• 35:52
  fourth
• 35:52
  of
• 35:52
  July,
• 35:53
  basically,
• 35:53
  Miriam
• 35:54
  Laundrie's
• 35:55
  staff
• 35:56
  picked
• 35:57
  the
• 35:57
  category
• 35:58
  and
• 35:58
  they
• 35:59
  monitor
• 35:59
  what's
• 36:00
  popular
• 36:00
  on
• 36:00
  Amazon,
• 36:01
  what's
• 36:01
  being
• 36:02
  used,
• 36:02
  what
• 36:02
  not
• 36:02
  what
• 36:03
  the
• 36:03
  categories
• 36:03
  are.
• 36:03
  They
• 36:04
  pick
• 36:04
  the
• 36:04
  three
• 36:05
  categories.
• 36:06
  And
• 36:06
  what
• 36:06
  did
• 36:06
  they
• 36:06
  pick
• 36:07
  for
• 36:07
  you?
• 36:07
  Because
• 36:07
  that's
• 36:08
  definitely
• 36:09
  the
• 36:09
  first
• 36:09
  one.
• 36:10
  The
• 36:10
  one
• 36:10
  that
• 36:10
  was
• 36:11
  a
• 36:11
  bestseller
• 36:12
  for
• 36:12
  almost
• 36:12
  a
• 36:13
  year
• 36:13
  was
• 36:13
  Books
• 36:14
  on
• 36:14
  Independence
• 36:15
  Day.
• 36:16
  So
• 36:16
  that
• 36:16
  makes
• 36:16
  sense
• 36:17
  because
• 36:17
  there
• 36:17
  weren't.
• 36:17
  There
• 36:18
  aren't
• 36:18
  that
• 36:18
  many
• 36:18
  books
• 36:19
  written
• 36:19
  about
• 36:19
  the
• 36:20
  fourth
• 36:20
  of
• 36:20
  July.
• 36:20
  Okay.
• 36:21
  So
• 36:21
  that.
• 36:22
  That
• 36:22
  earned
• 36:23
  bestseller
• 36:23
  status
• 36:24
  for
• 36:24
  about
• 36:24
  a
• 36:25
  year.
• 36:25
  Then
• 36:26
  the
• 36:26
  other
• 36:26
  ones,
• 36:27
  I
• 36:27
  don't
• 36:27
  even
• 36:27
  remember
• 36:28
  one
• 36:28
  was
• 36:28
  something
• 36:29
  about
• 36:30
  family,
• 36:31
  fun
• 36:31
  together
• 36:32
  or
• 36:32
  something
• 36:32
  like
• 36:33
  that.
• 36:33
  I
• 36:34
  don't
• 36:34
  exactly
• 36:34
  remember
• 36:34
  what
• 36:35
  the
• 36:35
  three
• 36:35
  were.
• 36:36
  The
• 36:37
  second
• 36:37
  book,
• 36:38
  I
• 36:38
  had
• 36:38
  to
• 36:38
  spend
• 36:39
  a
• 36:39
  lot
• 36:39
  of
• 36:39
  time
• 36:39
  researching
• 36:40
  the
• 36:41
  categories,
• 36:41
  which
• 36:42
  isn't
• 36:42
  all
• 36:42
  that
• 36:42
  easy
• 36:43
  on
• 36:43
  Amazon.
• 36:43
  You
• 36:44
  have
• 36:44
  to
• 36:44
  go
• 36:45
  in
• 36:45
  and
• 36:46
  find
• 36:46
  where
• 36:46
  they
• 36:47
  list
• 36:47
  the
• 36:47
  categories.
• 36:48
  And
• 36:48
  the
• 36:48
  categories
• 36:49
  are
• 36:49
  always
• 36:49
  changing.
• 36:50
  But
• 36:51
  you
• 36:51
  do
• 36:51
  have
• 36:51
  to
• 36:52
  use
• 36:52
  a
• 36:52
  category
• 36:53
  that
• 36:54
  matches
• 36:54
  up
• 36:55
  with
• 36:55
  your
• 36:55
  book.
• 36:55
  You
• 36:56
  can't
• 36:56
  choose
• 36:57
  some
• 36:57
  category
• 36:58
  that's
• 36:58
  not
• 36:59
  used
• 36:59
  very
• 36:59
  often
• 37:00
  or
• 37:00
  your
• 37:00
  book.
• 37:01
  It
• 37:01
  has
• 37:01
  to
• 37:01
  relate
• 37:02
  to
• 37:02
  your
• 37:02
  book.
• 37:02
  You
• 37:03
  bet.
• 37:03
  So
• 37:03
  the
• 37:03
  one
• 37:04
  that.
• 37:05
  That
• 37:05
  worked
• 37:05
  for
• 37:06
  me
• 37:06
  the
• 37:06
  best
• 37:07
  was
• 37:08
  the
• 37:09
  performing
• 37:10
  arts
• 37:11
  circus
• 37:12
  category.
• 37:13
  I
• 37:13
  got
• 37:14
  bestseller
• 37:14
  status
• 37:15
  because
• 37:17
  of
• 37:17
  my
• 37:17
  ranking
• 37:18
  of
• 37:18
  the
• 37:18
  book
• 37:18
  in
• 37:19
  that
• 37:19
  category.
• 37:20
  And
• 37:20
  then
• 37:20
  I
• 37:21
  used
• 37:21
  multi
• 37:22
  generational
• 37:23
  as
• 37:24
  a
• 37:24
  category.
• 37:25
  That
• 37:25
  didn't
• 37:26
  do
• 37:26
  well
• 37:27
  because
• 37:27
  I
• 37:27
  guess
• 37:27
  a
• 37:27
  lot
• 37:28
  of
• 37:28
  books
• 37:28
  are
• 37:28
  multi
• 37:29
  generational.
• 37:30
  And
• 37:30
  so
• 37:30
  that
• 37:31
  didn't
• 37:31
  do
• 37:31
  real
• 37:31
  well.
• 37:32
  I
• 37:32
  did
• 37:33
  one,
• 37:33
  something
• 37:34
  about
• 37:36
  history.
• 37:37
  Using
• 37:37
  history
• 37:38
  in
• 37:38
  your
• 37:38
  books.
• 37:39
  Because
• 37:39
  of
• 37:39
  the
• 37:39
  dust
• 37:40
  storm
• 37:40
  in
• 37:41
  my
• 37:41
  second
• 37:41
  book
• 37:42
  that.
• 37:42
  I
• 37:43
  mean,
• 37:43
  that
• 37:43
  was
• 37:43
  a
• 37:43
  true
• 37:43
  factor.
• 37:44
  And
• 37:44
  how
• 37:45
  did
• 37:45
  that
• 37:45
  work?
• 37:46
  That
• 37:46
  was
• 37:47
  pretty
• 37:47
  good.
• 37:47
  That
• 37:47
  was
• 37:48
  pretty
• 37:48
  good.
• 37:48
  Not
• 37:48
  as
• 37:48
  good
• 37:49
  as
• 37:49
  the
• 37:49
  performing
• 37:49
  arts
• 37:50
  circus
• 37:50
  one.
• 37:51
  Okay.
• 37:51
  But
• 37:51
  that
• 37:52
  was
• 37:52
  pretty
• 37:52
  good.
• 37:52
  Now
• 37:52
  I've
• 37:53
  gone
• 37:53
  back
• 37:53
  in
• 37:54
  and
• 37:54
  changed
• 37:55
  your.
• 37:56
  Any
• 37:56
  of
• 37:56
  the.
• 37:56
  I
• 37:56
  did
• 37:57
  go
• 37:57
  back
• 37:57
  in
• 37:57
  and
• 37:57
  change
• 37:58
  1.
• 37:59
  The
• 38:00
  multi
• 38:00
  generational
• 38:01
  one,
• 38:02
  I
• 38:02
  think
• 38:02
  I
• 38:02
  changed
• 38:03
  it
• 38:04
  to.
• 38:06
  It's
• 38:06
  some
• 38:06
  category
• 38:07
  that
• 38:07
  the
• 38:08
  family
• 38:10
  working
• 38:10
  together
• 38:11
  in
• 38:11
  the
• 38:11
  home,
• 38:12
  or
• 38:12
  at
• 38:12
  least
• 38:13
  the
• 38:13
  word
• 38:13
  home
• 38:14
  is
• 38:14
  in
• 38:14
  the
• 38:15
  category.
• 38:16
  And
• 38:16
  so
• 38:16
  I
• 38:17
  used
• 38:17
  that
• 38:17
  one.
• 38:17
  And
• 38:18
  then
• 38:18
  my
• 38:18
  ratings
• 38:19
  were
• 38:19
  better
• 38:19
  in
• 38:20
  that
• 38:20
  category.
• 38:21
  Yeah.
• 38:21
  Yeah.
• 38:22
  And
• 38:22
  that
• 38:22
  is
• 38:23
  nice.
• 38:23
  You
• 38:23
  can
• 38:23
  go
• 38:24
  back
• 38:24
  in
• 38:24
  and
• 38:24
  change
• 38:24
  your
• 38:25
  Your
• 38:26
  category.
• 38:26
  And
• 38:27
  that's.
• 38:27
  And
• 38:27
  that's
• 38:27
  good
• 38:27
  to
• 38:28
  know.
• 38:28
  I
• 38:28
  appreciate
• 38:28
  you
• 38:29
  mentioning
• 38:29
  that
• 38:29
  because
• 38:30
  you're
• 38:31
  the
• 38:31
  first
• 38:31
  person
• 38:31
  that's
• 38:32
  actually
• 38:32
  brought
• 38:32
  it
• 38:33
  up.
• 38:33
  And
• 38:33
  yet
• 38:34
  it
• 38:34
  is
• 38:34
  important.
• 38:35
  And
• 38:36
  it's.
• 38:36
  Yeah.
• 38:36
  I
• 38:36
  think
• 38:36
  that
• 38:37
  if
• 38:37
  you
• 38:37
  want
• 38:37
  to
• 38:37
  get
• 38:37
  Amazon
• 38:38
  bestseller,
• 38:39
  that
• 38:39
  it's
• 38:39
  a
• 38:40
  important
• 38:40
  piece.
• 38:41
  Right.
• 38:41
  And
• 38:42
  you
• 38:42
  can.
• 38:42
  There
• 38:43
  are
• 38:43
  things
• 38:43
  on
• 38:44
  the
• 38:44
  web
• 38:44
  you
• 38:44
  can
• 38:45
  just
• 38:46
  research
• 38:46
  Amazon's
• 38:48
  categories,
• 38:49
  and
• 38:49
  Amazon
• 38:50
  puts
• 38:50
  out
• 38:50
  a
• 38:51
  book,
• 38:51
  how
• 38:51
  to
• 38:52
  publish
• 38:52
  on
• 38:52
  Amazon.
• 38:53
  They
• 38:53
  have
• 38:53
  a
• 38:53
  chapter
• 38:54
  in
• 38:54
  there
• 38:54
  about
• 38:54
  the
• 38:54
  categories.
• 38:55
  And
• 38:56
  I
• 38:56
  watch
• 38:56
  some
• 38:56
  YouTubes
• 38:57
  too,
• 38:57
  about
• 38:58
  picking
• 38:58
  categories.
• 38:59
  There
• 38:59
  are
• 38:59
  a
• 38:59
  lot
• 39:00
  of
• 39:00
  sources
• 39:01
  that
• 39:01
  authors
• 39:01
  can
• 39:02
  check
• 39:03
  into
• 39:03
  for
• 39:03
  that.
• 39:04
  Absolutely.
• 39:05
  When
• 39:05
  I
• 39:05
  think
• 39:06
  of
• 39:06
  Grandma's
• 39:07
  mystery
• 39:07
  surprise
• 39:08
  box
• 39:08
  and.
• 39:09
  And
• 39:09
  because
• 39:09
  I've
• 39:09
  read
• 39:10
  your
• 39:10
  book,
• 39:10
  I
• 39:11
  know
• 39:11
  the
• 39:11
  story,
• 39:12
  the
• 39:12
  motivation,
• 39:13
  and
• 39:13
  we
• 39:13
  talked
• 39:14
  about
• 39:14
  your
• 39:14
  mother.
• 39:15
  Is
• 39:15
  there
• 39:15
  a
• 39:15
  specific
• 39:17
  person
• 39:17
  or
• 39:18
  event
• 39:18
  that
• 39:19
  you
• 39:19
  said,
• 39:20
  this
• 39:20
  is
• 39:20
  my
• 39:21
  idea.
• 39:22
  The
• 39:22
  title
• 39:22
  I
• 39:23
  have
• 39:23
  for
• 39:23
  my
• 39:23
  book
• 39:25
  was
• 39:25
  what
• 39:25
  was
• 39:25
  the
• 39:26
  motivation
• 39:26
  to
• 39:26
  get
• 39:27
  you
• 39:27
  thinking.
• 39:28
  Because
• 39:28
  you
• 39:28
  went
• 39:28
  from
• 39:29
  Annie's
• 39:29
  Fourth
• 39:30
  of
• 39:30
  July,
• 39:30
  which
• 39:31
  is
• 39:31
  very
• 39:32
  specific,
• 39:33
  to
• 39:33
  something
• 39:33
  that's
• 39:34
  a
• 39:35
  little
• 39:35
  different.
• 39:35
  A
• 39:35
  little
• 39:35
  different?
• 39:36
  Yes.
• 39:37
  Actually,
• 39:37
  it
• 39:37
  was
• 39:37
  my
• 39:38
  illustrator
• 39:39
  slash
• 39:39
  editor.
• 39:41
  The
• 39:41
  first
• 39:41
  time
• 39:41
  I
• 39:42
  wrote
• 39:42
  the
• 39:42
  story,
• 39:43
  I
• 39:43
  had
• 39:43
  these
• 39:44
  surprise
• 39:44
  boxes,
• 39:45
  and
• 39:45
  I
• 39:46
  just
• 39:46
  put
• 39:46
  little
• 39:46
  trinkets
• 39:47
  in
• 39:47
  them,
• 39:47
  like
• 39:48
  candy,
• 39:48
  and
• 39:49
  just
• 39:49
  things
• 39:50
  that
• 39:50
  I
• 39:50
  thought
• 39:50
  the
• 39:50
  grandkids
• 39:51
  would
• 39:51
  like.
• 39:52
  And
• 39:52
  they
• 39:52
  were
• 39:52
  to
• 39:53
  guess
• 39:53
  those,
• 39:54
  and
• 39:54
  we
• 39:54
  would
• 39:54
  interact
• 39:55
  over
• 39:55
  FaceTime.
• 39:56
  And
• 39:56
  my
• 39:56
  editor
• 39:57
  said,
• 39:57
  that's
• 39:58
  okay,
• 39:58
  but
• 40:00
  she
• 40:00
  said
• 40:00
  the
• 40:00
  children
• 40:02
  are
• 40:02
  all
• 40:02
  that
• 40:02
  involved.
• 40:03
  Grandma
• 40:04
  puts
• 40:04
  the
• 40:04
  trinkets
• 40:04
  in
• 40:05
  the
• 40:05
  box,
• 40:05
  and
• 40:05
  then
• 40:06
  they
• 40:06
  just
• 40:06
  have
• 40:06
  to
• 40:07
  guess
• 40:07
  it.
• 40:07
  They
• 40:07
  don't
• 40:08
  have
• 40:08
  to
• 40:08
  do
• 40:08
  much
• 40:08
  on
• 40:08
  their
• 40:09
  own.
• 40:09
  So
• 40:09
  she
• 40:10
  asked
• 40:10
  me,
• 40:10
  is
• 40:10
  there.
• 40:11
  Do
• 40:11
  you
• 40:11
  have
• 40:11
  any
• 40:12
  family
• 40:12
  stories
• 40:13
  that
• 40:13
  would
• 40:14
  be
• 40:14
  meaningful?
• 40:15
  And
• 40:15
  I
• 40:16
  thought,
• 40:17
  yeah,
• 40:17
  my
• 40:17
  popcorn
• 40:18
  story.
• 40:19
  Which
• 40:20
  is
• 40:20
  a
• 40:20
  great
• 40:20
  story.
• 40:21
  It's
• 40:22
  a
• 40:22
  great
• 40:22
  story.
• 40:23
  Yeah,
• 40:23
  it's
• 40:24
  a
• 40:24
  great
• 40:24
  story.
• 40:24
  And
• 40:25
  what
• 40:25
  a
• 40:25
  fun
• 40:25
  way
• 40:26
  to
• 40:26
  pass
• 40:28
  family
• 40:28
  history
• 40:29
  down
• 40:29
  to
• 40:30
  young
• 40:30
  people,
• 40:31
  hopefully
• 40:31
  in
• 40:31
  a
• 40:32
  way
• 40:32
  that
• 40:32
  they'll
• 40:32
  remember
• 40:33
  because
• 40:33
  they
• 40:33
  had
• 40:33
  fun
• 40:33
  with
• 40:34
  it.
• 40:34
  Because
• 40:34
  I
• 40:35
  love
• 40:35
  when
• 40:35
  you
• 40:36
  had
• 40:36
  them
• 40:36
  close
• 40:36
  their
• 40:37
  eyes
• 40:37
  and
• 40:37
  you
• 40:37
  put
• 40:37
  popcorn
• 40:38
  in
• 40:38
  their
• 40:38
  mouth.
• 40:39
  And
• 40:39
  really,
• 40:40
  that's
• 40:41
  very
• 40:41
  memorable.
• 40:42
  Popcorn
• 40:42
  is
• 40:43
  something
• 40:43
  we
• 40:43
  all
• 40:43
  love.
• 40:44
  The
• 40:44
  movies
• 40:44
  are
• 40:45
  something
• 40:45
  we
• 40:45
  all
• 40:45
  love.
• 40:46
  The
• 40:46
  circus
• 40:46
  is
• 40:47
  something
• 40:47
  we
• 40:47
  all
• 40:47
  love.
• 40:48
  The
• 40:48
  only
• 40:48
  problem
• 40:48
  with
• 40:49
  it,
• 40:49
  Rick,
• 40:49
  what's
• 40:50
  that?
• 40:50
  Now
• 40:51
  each
• 40:51
  time
• 40:51
  I
• 40:51
  go
• 40:51
  up
• 40:52
  to
• 40:52
  see
• 40:52
  my
• 40:52
  grandkids,
• 40:53
  they
• 40:53
  expect
• 40:53
  me
• 40:53
  to
• 40:53
  bring
• 40:54
  the
• 40:54
  grandparents
• 40:55
  in
• 40:55
  my
• 40:55
  surprise
• 40:55
  box
• 40:56
  with.
• 40:58
  I
• 40:58
  can
• 40:59
  guess.
• 41:00
  That's
• 41:00
  terrific.
• 41:01
  You
• 41:01
  know
• 41:01
  what
• 41:02
  the
• 41:02
  thing
• 41:02
  about
• 41:03
  grandchildren
• 41:04
  is?
• 41:05
  They
• 41:05
  get
• 41:05
  older
• 41:06
  quick.
• 41:07
  Yeah.
• 41:07
  So
• 41:08
  you
• 41:08
  might
• 41:08
  think,
• 41:08
  oh,
• 41:09
  my
• 41:09
  goodness.
• 41:09
  But
• 41:10
  I'll
• 41:10
  tell
• 41:10
  you
• 41:10
  what,
• 41:11
  give
• 41:11
  it
• 41:11
  five
• 41:11
  or
• 41:11
  10
• 41:12
  years,
• 41:12
  and
• 41:13
  then
• 41:13
  you're
• 41:14
  hoping
• 41:14
  that
• 41:14
  somewhere
• 41:15
  down
• 41:15
  the
• 41:15
  road,
• 41:17
  another
• 41:17
  generation
• 41:18
  adopts
• 41:19
  your
• 41:19
  idea.
• 41:20
  Yes.
• 41:20
  And
• 41:20
  I.
• 41:21
  You
• 41:21
  know
• 41:21
  what?
• 41:21
  I'm
• 41:22
  glad
• 41:22
  you
• 41:22
  brought
• 41:22
  up
• 41:23
  the
• 41:23
  mystery
• 41:24
  surprise
• 41:25
  box,
• 41:25
  because
• 41:26
  at
• 41:27
  the
• 41:27
  end
• 41:27
  of
• 41:27
  the
• 41:27
  day,
• 41:28
  it's
• 41:28
  interesting.
• 41:29
  I
• 41:29
  always
• 41:29
  talk
• 41:29
  about
• 41:30
  character
• 41:30
  development,
• 41:32
  and
• 41:32
  one
• 41:32
  of
• 41:32
  the
• 41:33
  things
• 41:33
  that
• 41:33
  I
• 41:34
  really
• 41:34
  love
• 41:35
  about
• 41:35
  your
• 41:36
  story
• 41:36
  is
• 41:37
  the
• 41:37
  main
• 41:37
  character
• 41:38
  is
• 41:39
  the
• 41:39
  mystery
• 41:39
  surprise
• 41:40
  box.
• 41:41
  And
• 41:42
  I've
• 41:42
  never
• 41:42
  had
• 41:42
  an
• 41:43
  inanimate
• 41:44
  object
• 41:44
  as
• 41:45
  the
• 41:45
  main
• 41:45
  character.
• 41:46
  So
• 41:46
  tell
• 41:47
  us
• 41:47
  about
• 41:47
  that.
• 41:47
  How
• 41:48
  that
• 41:48
  whole
• 41:48
  character
• 41:49
  development
• 41:50
  with
• 41:50
  the
• 41:50
  mystery
• 41:51
  surprise
• 41:51
  box.
• 41:52
  I
• 41:52
  don't
• 41:52
  even
• 41:52
  know
• 41:53
  how.
• 41:53
  I
• 41:54
  think
• 41:54
  your
• 41:54
  creative
• 41:55
  juices
• 41:55
  just
• 41:56
  get
• 41:56
  going.
• 41:56
  And
• 41:57
  I
• 41:57
  thought
• 41:57
  the
• 41:57
  design.
• 41:58
  I
• 41:58
  was
• 41:58
  looking
• 41:59
  at
• 41:59
  the.
• 41:59
  You
• 41:59
  know,
• 42:00
  I
• 42:00
  know
• 42:00
  our
• 42:01
  listening
• 42:01
  audience
• 42:02
  can't
• 42:02
  see
• 42:02
  it,
• 42:02
  but
• 42:03
  I
• 42:03
  was
• 42:03
  looking
• 42:03
  at
• 42:04
  even
• 42:04
  the
• 42:05
  design.
• 42:06
  Was
• 42:06
  this
• 42:06
  something
• 42:07
  that
• 42:07
  you
• 42:07
  had
• 42:07
  in
• 42:08
  your
• 42:08
  family
• 42:08
  or.
• 42:09
  No,
• 42:10
  the
• 42:10
  illustrator
• 42:11
  in
• 42:11
  yourself
• 42:11
  just
• 42:12
  came
• 42:12
  up
• 42:12
  with
• 42:12
  the
• 42:12
  idea.
• 42:13
  Yeah,
• 42:13
  the
• 42:13
  illustrator
• 42:14
  and
• 42:14
  myself
• 42:15
  just
• 42:15
  came.
• 42:15
  Came
• 42:15
  up
• 42:16
  with
• 42:16
  that.
• 42:16
  It's
• 42:17
  beautiful.
• 42:18
  Yeah.
• 42:19
  Ready?
• 42:19
  I'll
• 42:19
  show
• 42:20
  you.
• 42:20
  I
• 42:20
  know
• 42:21
  you'll
• 42:21
  be
• 42:21
  able
• 42:21
  to
• 42:21
  see
• 42:21
  it.
• 42:22
  The
• 42:22
  other
• 42:22
  people
• 42:23
  can't.
• 42:23
  But
• 42:24
  just
• 42:24
  another.
• 42:25
  Because
• 42:25
  in
• 42:25
  the
• 42:26
  book,
• 42:26
  there
• 42:27
  are
• 42:27
  three
• 42:27
  mystery
• 42:28
  boxes.
• 42:28
  Yes.
• 42:29
  And
• 42:29
  so
• 42:30
  my
• 42:30
  grandkids
• 42:30
  and
• 42:31
  I
• 42:31
  just
• 42:31
  made
• 42:33
  that.
• 42:34
  The
• 42:34
  COVID
• 42:34
  of
• 42:34
  the
• 42:34
  book.
• 42:35
  The
• 42:35
  illustrator
• 42:36
  I
• 42:36
  just
• 42:36
  came
• 42:36
  up
• 42:36
  with.
• 42:37
  So
• 42:37
  nice
• 42:37
  that
• 42:38
  you've
• 42:38
  used
• 42:38
  an
• 42:38
  inanimate
• 42:39
  object
• 42:40
  to
• 42:40
  bring
• 42:40
  the
• 42:40
  whole
• 42:41
  story
• 42:41
  to
• 42:41
  life.
• 42:42
  And
• 42:42
  it's
• 42:43
  really
• 42:43
  the
• 42:43
  main
• 42:43
  character
• 42:44
  in
• 42:44
  the
• 42:44
  book.
• 42:45
  Yes,
• 42:45
  it
• 42:46
  is.
• 42:46
  Was
• 42:47
  any
• 42:47
  of
• 42:47
  that
• 42:47
  based
• 42:48
  on
• 42:48
  your
• 42:48
  own
• 42:49
  childhood
• 42:49
  experience
• 42:50
  in
• 42:50
  any
• 42:50
  way?
• 42:51
  The
• 42:52
  mystery
• 42:52
  box
• 42:52
  part?
• 42:53
  No,
• 42:54
  not
• 42:54
  really.
• 42:55
  Okay.
• 42:55
  Okay.
• 42:56
  Yeah.
• 42:56
  I'm
• 42:56
  just
• 42:56
  trying
• 42:57
  to
• 42:57
  think
• 42:57
  what
• 42:58
  triggered
• 42:58
  it
• 42:58
  or
• 42:59
  whatever.
• 42:59
  And
• 42:59
  I
• 43:00
  don't
• 43:00
  know.
• 43:00
  It's
• 43:00
  just.
• 43:00
  I
• 43:01
  don't
• 43:01
  know
• 43:01
  what
• 43:01
  triggered
• 43:02
  it.
• 43:02
  I
• 43:02
  just.
• 43:03
  I
• 43:03
  guess
• 43:03
  myself,
• 43:04
  I
• 43:04
  love
• 43:05
  surprises,
• 43:06
  and
• 43:06
  I'm
• 43:06
  always
• 43:07
  just
• 43:07
  taking
• 43:07
  surprises
• 43:08
  up
• 43:08
  to
• 43:08
  them
• 43:08
  and
• 43:09
  seeing
• 43:09
  their
• 43:09
  eyes
• 43:10
  light
• 43:10
  up.
• 43:10
  And
• 43:11
  that's.
• 43:12
  And
• 43:12
  then.
• 43:12
  And
• 43:13
  I
• 43:13
  did
• 43:13
  really,
• 43:14
  after
• 43:14
  my
• 43:14
  illustrator
• 43:15
  brought
• 43:15
  that
• 43:16
  up,
• 43:16
  I
• 43:17
  did
• 43:17
  really
• 43:17
  want
• 43:18
  to
• 43:18
  preserve
• 43:18
  that
• 43:19
  story
• 43:19
  in
• 43:19
  our
• 43:20
  family
• 43:20
  somehow,
• 43:21
  because
• 43:21
  it
• 43:21
  is
• 43:21
  a
• 43:22
  unique
• 43:22
  story.
• 43:23
  Now,
• 43:23
  just
• 43:23
  another
• 43:24
  thing
• 43:24
  is,
• 43:25
  you
• 43:26
  know
• 43:26
  how
• 43:26
  sometimes
• 43:26
  on
• 43:27
  the
• 43:27
  back
• 43:27
  of
• 43:27
  your
• 43:27
  book
• 43:28
  you
• 43:28
  get.
• 43:28
  What
• 43:29
  are
• 43:29
  they
• 43:29
  called,
• 43:29
  reviews
• 43:30
  or
• 43:31
  endorsements?
• 43:32
  Yes.
• 43:32
  I
• 43:32
  watched
• 43:33
  a
• 43:33
  webinar
• 43:34
  or
• 43:35
  something.
• 43:35
  They
• 43:35
  said,
• 43:35
  think
• 43:36
  big.
• 43:36
  So
• 43:37
  I
• 43:37
  thought
• 43:37
  big.
• 43:38
  And
• 43:38
  I
• 43:38
  reached
• 43:38
  out
• 43:39
  to
• 43:39
  Ringling
• 43:39
  Brothers
• 43:40
  to
• 43:40
  see
• 43:40
  if
• 43:41
  they
• 43:41
  would
• 43:41
  just
• 43:41
  maybe
• 43:42
  write
• 43:43
  a
• 43:43
  quick
• 43:43
  little
• 43:43
  thing
• 43:44
  on
• 43:44
  the
• 43:44
  back.
• 43:44
  Oh,
• 43:45
  I'm
• 43:45
  glad
• 43:45
  we
• 43:45
  were
• 43:45
  able
• 43:45
  to
• 43:46
  help
• 43:46
  your
• 43:46
  family
• 43:46
  or
• 43:47
  whatever.
• 43:47
  And
• 43:48
  so
• 43:48
  we
• 43:48
  communicated
• 43:49
  back
• 43:49
  and
• 43:49
  forth
• 43:50
  numerous
• 43:50
  times
• 43:51
  and.
• 43:51
  Oh,
• 43:51
  they
• 43:51
  did
• 43:52
  allow
• 43:52
  me,
• 43:52
  because
• 43:53
  I
• 43:53
  didn't
• 43:53
  know
• 43:53
  if
• 43:53
  I
• 43:53
  had
• 43:53
  to
• 43:54
  have
• 43:54
  permission
• 43:54
  to
• 43:55
  use
• 43:55
  their
• 43:55
  name.
• 43:56
  Actual
• 43:56
  name.
• 43:56
  Right.
• 43:57
  Okay.
• 43:58
  So
• 43:58
  they
• 43:58
  did
• 43:58
  give
• 43:59
  me
• 43:59
  permission
• 43:59
  to
• 44:00
  do
• 44:00
  that.
• 44:00
  And.
• 44:01
  And
• 44:01
  then
• 44:02
  it
• 44:02
  didn't
• 44:02
  work
• 44:02
  out
• 44:03
  for
• 44:03
  them
• 44:03
  to
• 44:03
  write
• 44:04
  Something
• 44:04
  on
• 44:04
  the
• 44:04
  back
• 44:05
  of
• 44:05
  the
• 44:05
  book.
• 44:05
  They
• 44:05
  just
• 44:06
  said,
• 44:06
  all
• 44:06
  we
• 44:06
  want
• 44:07
  is.
• 44:07
  Is
• 44:07
  a
• 44:08
  copy
• 44:08
  of
• 44:08
  the
• 44:08
  book
• 44:08
  once
• 44:09
  you
• 44:09
  get
• 44:09
  it
• 44:09
  done.
• 44:10
  That's
• 44:10
  terrific.
• 44:11
  Yeah.
• 44:11
  Isn't
• 44:12
  that
• 44:12
  fun?
• 44:12
  You
• 44:12
  know
• 44:13
  what?
• 44:13
  You
• 44:13
  never
• 44:13
  know
• 44:13
  where
• 44:14
  it
• 44:14
  goes.
• 44:15
  I
• 44:15
  know.
• 44:15
  You
• 44:15
  never
• 44:16
  know.
• 44:16
  You
• 44:16
  never
• 44:17
  know.
• 44:17
  One
• 44:17
  of
• 44:17
  the
• 44:17
  things
• 44:18
  which
• 44:18
  I
• 44:18
  thought
• 44:19
  was
• 44:19
  quite
• 44:19
  unique.
• 44:20
  On
• 44:20
  your
• 44:20
  website,
• 44:21
  you
• 44:21
  identify
• 44:23
  five
• 44:23
  themes
• 44:24
  for
• 44:24
  your
• 44:24
  book.
• 44:25
  Normally,
• 44:26
  I
• 44:26
  talk
• 44:26
  to
• 44:26
  people.
• 44:27
  They
• 44:27
  have
• 44:27
  one
• 44:28
  theme
• 44:28
  or
• 44:28
  whatever.
• 44:29
  Walk
• 44:29
  us
• 44:29
  through
• 44:29
  why
• 44:30
  you
• 44:30
  chose
• 44:30
  the
• 44:31
  five
• 44:31
  themes
• 44:32
  for
• 44:32
  your
• 44:32
  book.
• 44:34
  It's
• 44:34
  a
• 44:34
  marketing
• 44:35
  thing
• 44:36
  because
• 44:36
  I
• 44:36
  think
• 44:36
  when
• 44:37
  schools
• 44:37
  are
• 44:38
  looking
• 44:38
  at
• 44:39
  having
• 44:40
  an
• 44:41
  author
• 44:41
  come,
• 44:42
  usually
• 44:43
  they
• 44:43
  have
• 44:43
  some
• 44:44
  initiative
• 44:44
  going
• 44:45
  on
• 44:45
  that
• 44:45
  year
• 44:46
  that
• 44:46
  they
• 44:47
  are
• 44:47
  wanting
• 44:48
  an
• 44:48
  author
• 44:48
  to
• 44:49
  reinforce
• 44:50
  or
• 44:50
  teach
• 44:51
  something
• 44:51
  about.
• 44:52
  So
• 44:53
  I
• 44:53
  didn't
• 44:53
  want
• 44:53
  just
• 44:54
  to
• 44:54
  have
• 44:54
  one
• 44:54
  theme.
• 44:55
  I
• 44:55
  wanted
• 44:55
  to
• 44:55
  have
• 44:56
  several
• 44:56
  themes
• 44:57
  in
• 44:57
  case
• 44:59
  it
• 44:59
  matched
• 44:59
  up
• 44:59
  with
• 45:00
  what
• 45:00
  they
• 45:00
  were
• 45:01
  highlighting
• 45:02
  for
• 45:02
  the
• 45:02
  year.
• 45:03
  And
• 45:03
  you
• 45:03
  said
• 45:04
  you
• 45:04
  developed
• 45:05
  a
• 45:05
  little
• 45:05
  bit
• 45:05
  of
• 45:05
  a
• 45:05
  curriculum.
• 45:06
  Yeah,
• 45:07
  a
• 45:07
  little
• 45:07
  lesson
• 45:08
  plan.
• 45:08
  So
• 45:08
  was
• 45:09
  it.
• 45:09
  Is
• 45:09
  it
• 45:09
  tied
• 45:10
  into
• 45:10
  your
• 45:10
  themes,
• 45:12
  the
• 45:12
  curriculum?
• 45:13
  I
• 45:13
  haven't.
• 45:14
  I
• 45:14
  haven't
• 45:14
  gotten
• 45:15
  that
• 45:15
  far
• 45:15
  yet.
• 45:16
  Okay.
• 45:16
  I've
• 45:17
  done
• 45:17
  just
• 45:17
  a
• 45:18
  writing
• 45:18
  sample.
• 45:19
  Like,
• 45:20
  what
• 45:20
  would
• 45:21
  you
• 45:21
  do
• 45:21
  if
• 45:21
  you
• 45:21
  created
• 45:22
  your
• 45:22
  own
• 45:23
  mystery
• 45:23
  box
• 45:24
  and
• 45:25
  used
• 45:25
  that
• 45:26
  kind
• 45:26
  of
• 45:26
  that.
• 45:27
  That
• 45:27
  theme
• 45:28
  of
• 45:28
  imagination,
• 45:29
  using
• 45:29
  your
• 45:29
  imagination?
• 45:30
  That's
• 45:31
  a
• 45:31
  theme
• 45:31
  book.
• 45:32
  Other
• 45:32
  than
• 45:32
  that,
• 45:33
  I'd
• 45:33
  have.
• 45:34
  For.
• 45:34
  If
• 45:34
  we
• 45:35
  had
• 45:35
  a
• 45:35
  session
• 45:36
  with
• 45:36
  parents
• 45:37
  and
• 45:37
  children,
• 45:38
  I
• 45:38
  think
• 45:38
  that
• 45:39
  would
• 45:39
  be
• 45:39
  a
• 45:39
  great
• 45:40
  springboard
• 45:40
  for
• 45:41
  them
• 45:41
  to
• 45:41
  write
• 45:41
  their
• 45:42
  own
• 45:42
  family
• 45:42
  story
• 45:43
  together,
• 45:44
  something
• 45:44
  that
• 45:45
  happened
• 45:45
  in
• 45:45
  their
• 45:45
  family
• 45:46
  that
• 45:46
  they
• 45:46
  could
• 45:47
  write
• 45:47
  a
• 45:47
  little
• 45:48
  mini
• 45:48
  book
• 45:48
  together
• 45:49
  as
• 45:49
  parents
• 45:50
  and
• 45:50
  kids,
• 45:51
  like,
• 45:51
  for
• 45:51
  a
• 45:51
  title
• 45:52
  1.
• 45:53
  A
• 45:53
  family
• 45:53
  involvement
• 45:54
  night
• 45:54
  or
• 45:55
  something.
• 45:55
  So
• 45:55
  I'm
• 45:56
  hoping
• 45:56
  to
• 45:56
  do
• 45:56
  that
• 45:56
  this
• 45:57
  year.
• 45:57
  And
• 45:57
  I
• 45:57
  put
• 45:57
  that
• 45:58
  out,
• 45:59
  too.
• 46:00
  Obviously,
• 46:01
  when
• 46:01
  you
• 46:02
  go
• 46:02
  and
• 46:02
  do
• 46:02
  your
• 46:03
  book
• 46:03
  readings
• 46:03
  at
• 46:04
  the
• 46:04
  school,
• 46:05
  and
• 46:05
  I
• 46:05
  know
• 46:06
  our
• 46:06
  listeners
• 46:06
  won't
• 46:07
  be
• 46:07
  able
• 46:07
  to
• 46:07
  see,
• 46:07
  but
• 46:08
  you
• 46:09
  dress
• 46:09
  up
• 46:09
  like
• 46:09
  a
• 46:09
  ring
• 46:10
  master.
• 46:10
  The
• 46:10
  ringmaster.
• 46:11
  Yes.
• 46:12
  That
• 46:12
  must
• 46:12
  be
• 46:12
  fun.
• 46:13
  When
• 46:13
  you
• 46:13
  go
• 46:13
  into
• 46:13
  the
• 46:13
  schools,
• 46:14
  you
• 46:14
  got
• 46:14
  your
• 46:14
  talk.
• 46:16
  It's
• 46:16
  so
• 46:16
  fun.
• 46:17
  It's
• 46:17
  so
• 46:17
  fun.
• 46:18
  And
• 46:18
  then
• 46:19
  I
• 46:19
  usually
• 46:19
  try
• 46:20
  to
• 46:20
  give
• 46:20
  the
• 46:20
  kids.
• 46:21
  I
• 46:21
  found
• 46:21
  these
• 46:21
  little
• 46:22
  circus
• 46:22
  erasers,
• 46:24
  and
• 46:24
  so
• 46:24
  I
• 46:25
  give
• 46:25
  those
• 46:25
  that.
• 46:25
  And
• 46:26
  popcorn's
• 46:27
  a
• 46:27
  wonderful
• 46:27
  thing
• 46:27
  to
• 46:27
  give
• 46:28
  to
• 46:28
  the
• 46:28
  kids
• 46:28
  if
• 46:28
  the
• 46:29
  janitors
• 46:29
  are
• 46:29
  okay
• 46:30
  with.
• 46:30
  Absolutely.
• 46:31
  And
• 46:31
  it
• 46:31
  ties
• 46:32
  so,
• 46:32
  so
• 46:32
  great
• 46:33
  with
• 46:33
  your
• 46:33
  theme,
• 46:34
  for
• 46:34
  sure.
• 46:34
  Yes.
• 46:35
  Yeah.
• 46:35
  So
• 46:36
  that's
• 46:36
  fun,
• 46:36
  too.
• 46:37
  Now
• 46:37
  that
• 46:37
  you've
• 46:38
  written
• 46:38
  your
• 46:38
  second
• 46:39
  book,
• 46:40
  tell
• 46:40
  us
• 46:40
  a
• 46:40
  little
• 46:41
  bit
• 46:41
  about
• 46:41
  your
• 46:41
  writing
• 46:42
  process,
• 46:43
  how
• 46:43
  it
• 46:43
  maybe
• 46:44
  has
• 46:44
  evolved
• 46:44
  from
• 46:45
  Annie's
• 46:45
  fourth
• 46:46
  of
• 46:46
  July
• 46:46
  to
• 46:46
  now
• 46:47
  Grandma's
• 46:48
  mystery
• 46:48
  surprise
• 46:48
  box.
• 46:49
  Tell
• 46:49
  us
• 46:50
  how
• 46:51
  your
• 46:51
  writing
• 46:51
  process
• 46:52
  changed,
• 46:53
  or
• 46:53
  did
• 46:53
  it
• 46:53
  stay
• 46:54
  the
• 46:54
  same?
• 46:55
  No,
• 46:55
  it
• 46:55
  changed.
• 46:56
  It
• 46:56
  became
• 46:56
  more
• 46:57
  focused.
• 46:58
  And
• 46:58
  I
• 46:59
  know
• 46:59
  the
• 46:59
  elements
• 47:00
  of
• 47:00
  the
• 47:01
  story,
• 47:01
  Like
• 47:01
  I
• 47:02
  said,
• 47:02
  you
• 47:02
  have
• 47:02
  to
• 47:02
  have
• 47:03
  a
• 47:03
  problem
• 47:03
  that
• 47:04
  has
• 47:04
  to
• 47:04
  be
• 47:04
  solved
• 47:05
  and
• 47:06
  you
• 47:06
  have
• 47:06
  to
• 47:06
  have
• 47:06
  dialog
• 47:08
  and
• 47:08
  strong
• 47:09
  characters.
• 47:10
  And
• 47:10
  then
• 47:11
  at
• 47:11
  the
• 47:12
  end,
• 47:12
  another
• 47:13
  thing
• 47:13
  I
• 47:13
  learned
• 47:13
  that
• 47:14
  I
• 47:14
  should
• 47:14
  have
• 47:14
  just
• 47:14
  realized,
• 47:15
  but
• 47:15
  once
• 47:15
  she
• 47:16
  said
• 47:16
  it,
• 47:16
  it
• 47:16
  was
• 47:16
  like,
• 47:17
  oh,
• 47:17
  yeah,
• 47:18
  the
• 47:18
  story
• 47:18
  has
• 47:19
  to
• 47:19
  end
• 47:19
  in
• 47:20
  a
• 47:20
  pleasing
• 47:21
  way.
• 47:21
  It
• 47:22
  doesn't
• 47:22
  have
• 47:22
  to
• 47:22
  be
• 47:23
  necessarily
• 47:24
  raha
• 47:25
  whoopee.
• 47:26
  But
• 47:27
  it
• 47:27
  has
• 47:27
  to
• 47:27
  end
• 47:28
  in
• 47:28
  a.
• 47:28
  With
• 47:29
  a
• 47:29
  pleasing
• 47:30
  ending.
• 47:31
  And
• 47:31
  so
• 47:31
  in
• 47:31
  Annie's
• 47:32
  4th
• 47:32
  of
• 47:32
  July,
• 47:33
  Annie
• 47:33
  goes
• 47:34
  to
• 47:34
  sleep
• 47:35
  that
• 47:35
  night
• 47:35
  thinking
• 47:36
  of
• 47:36
  next
• 47:36
  year
• 47:37
  and
• 47:37
  the
• 47:37
  fun
• 47:37
  she's
• 47:38
  going
• 47:38
  to
• 47:38
  have
• 47:38
  at
• 47:38
  the
• 47:38
  next
• 47:39
  year's
• 47:40
  fourth
• 47:40
  of
• 47:40
  July.
• 47:41
  And
• 47:41
  in
• 47:42
  Annie's
• 47:42
  mystery
• 47:43
  surprise
• 47:43
  box,
• 47:44
  they're
• 47:45
  having
• 47:46
  playing
• 47:46
  circus
• 47:47
  with
• 47:47
  Grandma.
• 47:47
  She
• 47:48
  comes
• 47:48
  to
• 47:48
  the
• 47:48
  door.
• 47:49
  So
• 47:49
  it
• 47:49
  ends
• 47:49
  happy.
• 47:50
  My
• 47:50
  writing
• 47:51
  now,
• 47:51
  it's
• 47:52
  much
• 47:52
  more
• 47:52
  focused.
• 47:53
  Yes.
• 47:54
  For
• 47:54
  me,
• 47:56
  I
• 47:57
  don't
• 47:57
  spend
• 47:58
  time
• 47:58
  every
• 47:59
  day
• 47:59
  writing.
• 47:59
  I
• 48:00
  know
• 48:00
  they
• 48:00
  recommend
• 48:01
  authors
• 48:02
  do
• 48:02
  that.
• 48:03
  I
• 48:03
  do
• 48:03
  better
• 48:04
  with
• 48:04
  chunks
• 48:04
  of
• 48:05
  time
• 48:05
  because.
• 48:05
  Have
• 48:06
  you
• 48:06
  got
• 48:06
  something
• 48:06
  that
• 48:06
  you're
• 48:07
  working
• 48:07
  on
• 48:07
  now?
• 48:08
  Yes.
• 48:09
  I
• 48:09
  have
• 48:09
  another
• 48:10
  book
• 48:11
  in
• 48:11
  the
• 48:11
  Annie's
• 48:12
  Family
• 48:13
  line
• 48:13
  that
• 48:14
  I'm
• 48:14
  working
• 48:14
  on,
• 48:14
  and
• 48:15
  it's
• 48:15
  more
• 48:15
  a
• 48:15
  book
• 48:15
  about
• 48:16
  books.
• 48:16
  Bullying.
• 48:17
  When
• 48:17
  I
• 48:18
  was
• 48:18
  a
• 48:18
  principal,
• 48:18
  oh,
• 48:19
  my
• 48:19
  goodness.
• 48:19
  I
• 48:20
  just
• 48:20
  saw
• 48:21
  how
• 48:22
  kids
• 48:22
  would
• 48:22
  give
• 48:22
  their
• 48:23
  power
• 48:23
  away
• 48:24
  so
• 48:24
  quickly,
• 48:25
  so
• 48:26
  easily
• 48:27
  to
• 48:27
  some
• 48:28
  bully,
• 48:28
  and
• 48:29
  it
• 48:29
  would
• 48:29
  just
• 48:29
  make
• 48:29
  me
• 48:30
  so
• 48:30
  mad.
• 48:30
  I'm
• 48:31
  just
• 48:31
  like,
• 48:31
  no,
• 48:31
  don't
• 48:32
  let
• 48:32
  them.
• 48:32
  Don't
• 48:32
  let
• 48:33
  them
• 48:33
  take
• 48:33
  your
• 48:33
  power
• 48:34
  away
• 48:34
  from
• 48:34
  you.
• 48:35
  So
• 48:35
  that's
• 48:35
  what
• 48:35
  my
• 48:36
  next
• 48:36
  book
• 48:36
  is
• 48:36
  about.
• 48:37
  Don't
• 48:37
  give
• 48:37
  up
• 48:38
  your
• 48:38
  power
• 48:38
  or
• 48:38
  your
• 48:39
  sparkle
• 48:39
  or
• 48:39
  something
• 48:40
  like
• 48:40
  that.
• 48:40
  I
• 48:40
  don't
• 48:41
  know.
• 48:41
  I
• 48:41
  haven't
• 48:41
  really
• 48:42
  titled
• 48:42
  it
• 48:42
  yet,
• 48:42
  but
• 48:43
  that's
• 48:43
  what
• 48:43
  I'm
• 48:43
  working
• 48:43
  on
• 48:44
  now.
• 48:44
  Nice.
• 48:45
  I
• 48:46
  want
• 48:46
  to
• 48:46
  talk
• 48:46
  a
• 48:46
  little
• 48:46
  bit
• 48:47
  about
• 48:48
  success
• 48:48
  measurement.
• 48:49
  It's
• 48:49
  probably
• 48:50
  still
• 48:50
  fresh,
• 48:51
  but
• 48:51
  you
• 48:51
  wrote
• 48:51
  your
• 48:51
  first
• 48:52
  book.
• 48:53
  You
• 48:53
  must
• 48:53
  have
• 48:53
  had
• 48:54
  an
• 48:54
  expectation
• 48:55
  of
• 48:56
  success.
• 48:57
  I'm
• 48:57
  curious
• 48:57
  how
• 48:58
  you
• 48:58
  viewed
• 48:58
  your
• 48:58
  success
• 48:59
  for
• 48:59
  your
• 48:59
  first
• 49:00
  book,
• 49:00
  Annie's
• 49:00
  Fourth
• 49:01
  of
• 49:01
  July.
• 49:01
  And
• 49:02
  what
• 49:02
  were
• 49:03
  you
• 49:03
  expecting
• 49:03
  for
• 49:04
  success
• 49:04
  now
• 49:04
  that
• 49:05
  you've
• 49:05
  got
• 49:05
  your
• 49:05
  second
• 49:05
  book
• 49:06
  out?
• 49:06
  Tell
• 49:07
  us
• 49:07
  the
• 49:07
  difference.
• 49:07
  Is
• 49:08
  there
• 49:08
  a
• 49:08
  difference?
• 49:08
  I
• 49:09
  was
• 49:09
  hoping
• 49:09
  that
• 49:09
  both
• 49:10
  of
• 49:10
  them
• 49:10
  would
• 49:10
  be
• 49:10
  Amazon
• 49:11
  bestsellers,
• 49:13
  and
• 49:13
  that
• 49:13
  did
• 49:13
  happen.
• 49:14
  So
• 49:14
  both
• 49:14
  of
• 49:15
  them
• 49:15
  did
• 49:15
  that.
• 49:16
  I
• 49:16
  was
• 49:17
  hoping
• 49:17
  that
• 49:18
  I
• 49:18
  could
• 49:18
  get
• 49:19
  into
• 49:19
  schools
• 49:21
  and
• 49:21
  just
• 49:22
  share
• 49:22
  the
• 49:22
  joy
• 49:23
  of
• 49:24
  stories
• 49:24
  with
• 49:25
  the
• 49:25
  kids,
• 49:26
  and
• 49:26
  I
• 49:26
  was
• 49:27
  able
• 49:27
  to
• 49:27
  do
• 49:27
  that
• 49:27
  with
• 49:28
  Annie's
• 49:28
  fourth
• 49:28
  of
• 49:29
  July.
• 49:29
  I
• 49:29
  have
• 49:29
  a
• 49:29
  few
• 49:30
  bookings
• 49:30
  scheduled
• 49:31
  now
• 49:31
  with
• 49:32
  schools.
• 49:32
  I'm
• 49:32
  hoping
• 49:33
  to
• 49:33
  get
• 49:33
  more.
• 49:34
  So
• 49:35
  I
• 49:35
  guess
• 49:35
  it's
• 49:36
  to
• 49:36
  be
• 49:36
  determined
• 49:37
  with
• 49:37
  the
• 49:37
  second
• 49:38
  one.
• 49:38
  Okay.
• 49:39
  But
• 49:39
  also
• 49:41
  with
• 49:41
  the
• 49:41
  second
• 49:41
  one
• 49:42
  success,
• 49:44
  me
• 49:45
  being
• 49:45
  okay.
• 49:46
  I
• 49:46
  did
• 49:46
  record
• 49:47
  that
• 49:47
  family
• 49:48
  story,
• 49:48
  and
• 49:49
  that
• 49:49
  family
• 49:49
  story
• 49:50
  will
• 49:52
  go
• 49:52
  to
• 49:53
  future
• 49:53
  generations.
• 49:54
  So
• 49:55
  That's
• 49:55
  a
• 49:55
  measure
• 49:55
  of
• 49:56
  success
• 49:56
  for
• 49:56
  me
• 49:56
  in
• 49:57
  that
• 49:57
  story.
• 49:57
  I
• 49:58
  always
• 49:58
  say
• 49:58
  to
• 49:58
  people,
• 49:58
  the
• 49:59
  nice
• 49:59
  thing
• 49:59
  about
• 49:59
  children's
• 50:00
  books
• 50:00
  is
• 50:01
  they're
• 50:02
  evergreen,
• 50:03
  they're
• 50:03
  forever.
• 50:04
  That's
• 50:05
  forever.
• 50:05
  Yeah.
• 50:06
  What
• 50:06
  a
• 50:06
  wonderful
• 50:07
  thing
• 50:07
  to
• 50:07
  be
• 50:08
  able
• 50:08
  to
• 50:09
  have
• 50:09
  our
• 50:10
  words
• 50:11
  down
• 50:12
  for
• 50:12
  kids
• 50:12
  forever.
• 50:14
  So
• 50:15
  is
• 50:15
  there
• 50:16
  a
• 50:16
  difference
• 50:16
  in
• 50:17
  how
• 50:17
  you
• 50:17
  view
• 50:18
  the
• 50:18
  role
• 50:18
  of
• 50:18
  writing
• 50:19
  now
• 50:19
  in
• 50:19
  your
• 50:19
  life
• 50:20
  versus
• 50:21
  seeing
• 50:22
  the
• 50:22
  ad
• 50:22
  with
• 50:23
  Miriam
• 50:23
  Laundrie
• 50:24
  on
• 50:25
  Facebook
• 50:25
  and
• 50:25
  then
• 50:26
  saying,
• 50:26
  okay,
• 50:26
  I
• 50:26
  think
• 50:27
  I'm
• 50:27
  going
• 50:27
  to
• 50:27
  write
• 50:27
  a
• 50:27
  children's
• 50:28
  picture
• 50:28
  book?
• 50:29
  And
• 50:29
  now
• 50:30
  that
• 50:30
  you've
• 50:30
  done
• 50:30
  two,
• 50:32
  how
• 50:32
  has
• 50:32
  the
• 50:32
  role
• 50:32
  of
• 50:33
  writing
• 50:34
  changed
• 50:34
  in
• 50:34
  your
• 50:34
  life?
• 50:35
  It's
• 50:36
  become
• 50:36
  more
• 50:36
  important
• 50:37
  and
• 50:37
  more
• 50:38
  satisfying,
• 50:40
  I
• 50:40
  would
• 50:40
  say.
• 50:41
  Yeah,
• 50:41
  just
• 50:42
  satisfying
• 50:43
  in
• 50:43
  what
• 50:43
  way?
• 50:45
  Just
• 50:45
  in
• 50:46
  my
• 50:46
  inner
• 50:46
  soul.
• 50:47
  Not
• 50:48
  monetarily,
• 50:49
  necessarily,
• 50:50
  but
• 50:50
  just
• 50:51
  inner
• 50:51
  satisfaction
• 50:52
  that,
• 50:53
  like
• 50:54
  I
• 50:54
  said
• 50:54
  before,
• 50:54
  I'm
• 50:55
  fascinated
• 50:56
  with
• 50:56
  picking
• 50:57
  right
• 50:57
  words
• 50:58
  to
• 50:58
  describe
• 50:59
  whatever.
• 51:00
  And
• 51:00
  sometimes
• 51:01
  I'll
• 51:01
  be
• 51:01
  writing
• 51:02
  and
• 51:02
  I'll
• 51:02
  just
• 51:03
  something.
• 51:03
  I
• 51:03
  think
• 51:04
  that
• 51:04
  was
• 51:04
  just
• 51:04
  the
• 51:05
  perfect
• 51:05
  word
• 51:05
  to
• 51:05
  use.
• 51:06
  And
• 51:06
  I
• 51:06
  just
• 51:06
  feel
• 51:06
  good
• 51:07
  about
• 51:07
  that.
• 51:07
  Excellent.
• 51:08
  And
• 51:09
  what
• 51:09
  about
• 51:09
  your
• 51:10
  grandchildren?
• 51:11
  As
• 51:11
  they've
• 51:12
  seen,
• 51:12
  because
• 51:12
  they.
• 51:13
  Like
• 51:13
  you
• 51:13
  said,
• 51:13
  they're
• 51:13
  relatively
• 51:14
  still
• 51:15
  young.
• 51:15
  So
• 51:16
  here
• 51:16
  we
• 51:16
  go.
• 51:17
  All
• 51:17
  of
• 51:17
  a
• 51:17
  sudden,
• 51:18
  Grandma
• 51:19
  is
• 51:20
  a
• 51:20
  children's
• 51:20
  book
• 51:21
  author,
• 51:21
  and
• 51:21
  now
• 51:22
  she's
• 51:22
  a
• 51:22
  multiple
• 51:23
  children's
• 51:24
  book
• 51:24
  author.
• 51:24
  Tell
• 51:25
  us
• 51:25
  about
• 51:25
  when
• 51:26
  you
• 51:26
  go
• 51:26
  visit
• 51:26
  your
• 51:27
  grandchildren.
• 51:28
  What
• 51:28
  is
• 51:28
  that
• 51:28
  being
• 51:29
  like?
• 51:30
  Oh,
• 51:30
  my
• 51:30
  goodness.
• 51:31
  I
• 51:31
  don't
• 51:31
  know
• 51:32
  if
• 51:32
  it's
• 51:32
  a
• 51:32
  good
• 51:32
  thing
• 51:32
  or
• 51:33
  a
• 51:33
  bad
• 51:33
  thing,
• 51:33
  Rick.
• 51:33
  But
• 51:34
  my
• 51:34
  oldest
• 51:34
  granddaughter,
• 51:35
  she
• 51:35
  loves
• 51:36
  to
• 51:36
  write
• 51:37
  and
• 51:37
  she
• 51:37
  loves
• 51:38
  to
• 51:38
  illustrate.
• 51:39
  And
• 51:39
  so
• 51:40
  she,
• 51:40
  of
• 51:40
  course,
• 51:40
  she
• 51:40
  wants
• 51:41
  to
• 51:41
  grow
• 51:41
  up
• 51:41
  and
• 51:42
  be
• 51:42
  an
• 51:42
  author.
• 51:44
  And
• 51:44
  she
• 51:44
  is.
• 51:44
  She's
• 51:45
  writing
• 51:45
  all
• 51:45
  sorts
• 51:46
  of
• 51:46
  stories
• 51:46
  now
• 51:47
  and
• 51:48
  gonna
• 51:48
  submit
• 51:48
  a
• 51:49
  couple
• 51:49
  to
• 51:49
  different
• 51:49
  children's
• 51:50
  contests.
• 51:51
  And
• 51:51
  I
• 51:52
  don't
• 51:52
  know
• 51:52
  what
• 51:52
  I've
• 51:52
  done
• 51:52
  to
• 51:52
  her.
• 51:53
  Oh,
• 51:53
  just
• 51:54
  relax
• 51:54
  and
• 51:55
  enjoy
• 51:55
  your
• 51:55
  childhood.
• 51:57
  It's
• 51:57
  interesting
• 51:58
  you
• 51:58
  should
• 51:58
  say
• 51:58
  that,
• 51:59
  Jeanne,
• 51:59
  because
• 51:59
  I
• 52:00
  went
• 52:00
  to
• 52:00
  my
• 52:00
  youngest
• 52:01
  grandson's
• 52:02
  school
• 52:03
  and
• 52:03
  I
• 52:03
  did
• 52:03
  a
• 52:03
  book
• 52:04
  reading.
• 52:04
  Now,
• 52:04
  the
• 52:04
  kids
• 52:05
  were
• 52:05
  a
• 52:05
  little
• 52:05
  bit
• 52:05
  older
• 52:06
  and.
• 52:07
  But
• 52:07
  what
• 52:08
  was
• 52:08
  interesting
• 52:09
  is
• 52:09
  how
• 52:10
  many
• 52:10
  questions
• 52:10
  I
• 52:11
  got
• 52:11
  about
• 52:11
  being
• 52:12
  an
• 52:12
  illustrator.
• 52:13
  And
• 52:14
  when
• 52:14
  I
• 52:14
  just
• 52:14
  said
• 52:14
  to
• 52:15
  the
• 52:15
  kids,
• 52:15
  it's
• 52:15
  not
• 52:15
  only
• 52:16
  children's
• 52:16
  picture
• 52:17
  books,
• 52:17
  but
• 52:18
  if
• 52:18
  you
• 52:18
  think
• 52:18
  about
• 52:19
  illustrations,
• 52:20
  you
• 52:20
  think
• 52:20
  of
• 52:21
  a
• 52:21
  Walt
• 52:21
  Disney,
• 52:22
  you
• 52:22
  think
• 52:22
  of
• 52:22
  Pixar
• 52:23
  and
• 52:23
  all
• 52:23
  of
• 52:24
  that,
• 52:24
  I
• 52:24
  said,
• 52:25
  it's
• 52:25
  incredible
• 52:26
  nowadays.
• 52:27
  And
• 52:28
  then
• 52:29
  you
• 52:29
  yourself
• 52:30
  can
• 52:30
  be
• 52:30
  an
• 52:30
  illustrator
• 52:31
  and
• 52:32
  an
• 52:32
  author,
• 52:33
  and
• 52:33
  once
• 52:34
  you
• 52:34
  learn
• 52:34
  the
• 52:34
  skills
• 52:35
  of
• 52:36
  doing
• 52:36
  your
• 52:36
  own
• 52:36
  publishing,
• 52:37
  it's
• 52:38
  incredible
• 52:38
  what
• 52:38
  you
• 52:39
  could
• 52:39
  do
• 52:40
  yourself.
• 52:41
  I
• 52:41
  know.
• 52:42
  Yeah.
• 52:42
  That
• 52:42
  is
• 52:43
  very
• 52:43
  cool.
• 52:43
  So
• 52:43
  you
• 52:43
  think
• 52:43
  you
• 52:44
  gave
• 52:44
  her
• 52:44
  a
• 52:44
  little
• 52:44
  nudge?
• 52:45
  The
• 52:46
  first
• 52:46
  book
• 52:47
  I
• 52:48
  gave
• 52:48
  her
• 52:49
  the
• 52:49
  story.
• 52:51
  She
• 52:51
  actually
• 52:52
  illustrated
• 52:52
  this
• 52:53
  whole
• 52:53
  book
• 52:53
  on
• 52:54
  her
• 52:54
  own.
• 52:54
  Wow.
• 52:56
  Oh,
• 52:56
  she's
• 52:57
  just
• 52:57
  like,
• 52:57
  amazing.
• 52:58
  Here
• 52:58
  they're
• 52:59
  getting
• 52:59
  the
• 52:59
  snow
• 52:59
  cones.
• 53:00
  This
• 53:00
  was
• 53:00
  Annie's
• 53:01
  4th
• 53:01
  of
• 53:01
  July,
• 53:02
  and
• 53:02
  so
• 53:03
  what?
• 53:04
  We
• 53:04
  had
• 53:04
  so
• 53:04
  much
• 53:05
  fun
• 53:05
  doing
• 53:05
  this
• 53:05
  together.
• 53:06
  It's
• 53:07
  nice
• 53:07
  that
• 53:07
  you
• 53:08
  have
• 53:08
  provided
• 53:09
  that
• 53:10
  direction
• 53:10
  for
• 53:11
  her
• 53:11
  and
• 53:11
  that
• 53:12
  inspiration.
• 53:13
  Yeah,
• 53:13
  it's
• 53:14
  been
• 53:14
  fun.
• 53:15
  She'll
• 53:15
  send
• 53:15
  me
• 53:16
  things
• 53:16
  on
• 53:16
  Google
• 53:16
  Docs
• 53:17
  now
• 53:17
  to
• 53:18
  kind
• 53:18
  of
• 53:18
  ask
• 53:19
  my
• 53:19
  opinions,
• 53:19
  and
• 53:20
  it
• 53:20
  is
• 53:20
  so
• 53:21
  fun
• 53:21
  to
• 53:21
  have
• 53:21
  that
• 53:22
  connection.
• 53:23
  That's
• 53:23
  terrific.
• 53:24
  Talking
• 53:25
  about
• 53:26
  inspiring
• 53:26
  people.
• 53:27
  So
• 53:27
  what
• 53:27
  advice
• 53:28
  would
• 53:28
  you
• 53:28
  give
• 53:29
  aspiring
• 53:30
  children
• 53:30
  book
• 53:31
  authors?
• 53:31
  I
• 53:32
  would
• 53:32
  say
• 53:33
  advice,
• 53:34
  research
• 53:35
  or
• 53:35
  learn
• 53:37
  the
• 53:37
  components
• 53:38
  of
• 53:38
  a
• 53:39
  children's
• 53:39
  book
• 53:41
  so
• 53:41
  that
• 53:41
  you
• 53:41
  won't
• 53:42
  be
• 53:42
  spinning
• 53:42
  your
• 53:43
  wheels
• 53:43
  or
• 53:43
  whatever.
• 53:44
  You
• 53:44
  do
• 53:44
  have
• 53:45
  to
• 53:45
  have
• 53:45
  a
• 53:45
  little
• 53:45
  knowledge
• 53:46
  base
• 53:47
  and
• 53:48
  practice
• 53:49
  writing
• 53:50
  practice.
• 53:51
  Get
• 53:51
  feedback
• 53:52
  from
• 53:52
  others,
• 53:54
  whether
• 53:54
  they
• 53:54
  are
• 53:56
  editors
• 53:56
  or
• 53:57
  family
• 53:57
  members,
• 53:58
  friends.
• 53:59
  I
• 53:59
  think
• 53:59
  the
• 54:00
  feedback
• 54:00
  that
• 54:00
  we
• 54:00
  get
• 54:01
  from
• 54:01
  others
• 54:01
  is
• 54:01
  just
• 54:02
  invaluable.
• 54:04
  And
• 54:04
  I
• 54:04
  would
• 54:04
  say
• 54:05
  follow
• 54:06
  your
• 54:06
  passion
• 54:06
  and
• 54:07
  follow
• 54:07
  your
• 54:07
  dreams.
• 54:08
  No
• 54:09
  matter
• 54:09
  what
• 54:09
  the
• 54:09
  story
• 54:10
  you're
• 54:10
  telling,
• 54:12
  no
• 54:13
  one
• 54:13
  has
• 54:13
  heard
• 54:14
  it
• 54:14
  told
• 54:15
  in
• 54:16
  the
• 54:16
  way
• 54:16
  that
• 54:16
  you're
• 54:16
  going
• 54:16
  to
• 54:16
  tell
• 54:17
  it,
• 54:17
  because
• 54:18
  there's
• 54:18
  a
• 54:18
  lot
• 54:18
  of
• 54:18
  authors
• 54:19
  that
• 54:19
  write
• 54:19
  about
• 54:20
  stars,
• 54:21
  whatever,
• 54:22
  but
• 54:24
  everybody
• 54:24
  tells
• 54:25
  it
• 54:25
  differently
• 54:26
  and
• 54:26
  everybody
• 54:27
  has
• 54:27
  their
• 54:27
  own
• 54:27
  story
• 54:27
  to
• 54:28
  tell,
• 54:28
  and
• 54:28
  they're
• 54:28
  all
• 54:28
  very
• 54:29
  valuable.
• 54:30
  Great
• 54:30
  insight.
• 54:31
  And
• 54:31
  that's
• 54:31
  what
• 54:31
  I
• 54:32
  found.
• 54:32
  I've
• 54:32
  interviewed
• 54:33
  over
• 54:33
  60
• 54:34
  children's
• 54:34
  book
• 54:34
  authors
• 54:35
  now,
• 54:35
  and
• 54:35
  that's
• 54:36
  what
• 54:36
  I'm
• 54:36
  finding
• 54:37
  is
• 54:38
  that
• 54:38
  all
• 54:39
  the
• 54:39
  stories
• 54:39
  are
• 54:39
  different,
• 54:41
  even
• 54:41
  to
• 54:41
  your
• 54:42
  point.
• 54:42
  Even
• 54:43
  the
• 54:43
  niche,
• 54:43
  whatever
• 54:44
  your
• 54:44
  niche
• 54:45
  is,
• 54:45
  that's
• 54:46
  what
• 54:46
  happens
• 54:46
  is
• 54:47
  it's
• 54:47
  a.
• 54:47
  It's
• 54:48
  just
• 54:48
  amazing.
• 54:49
  And
• 54:49
  a
• 54:49
  lot
• 54:49
  of
• 54:50
  times,
• 54:50
  like
• 54:50
  your
• 54:51
  second
• 54:51
  book,
• 54:52
  it's
• 54:52
  based
• 54:53
  on
• 54:54
  some
• 54:54
  event
• 54:54
  or
• 54:55
  something
• 54:56
  that
• 54:56
  really
• 54:56
  happened
• 54:57
  and
• 54:58
  then.
• 54:58
  Yes,
• 54:58
  absolutely.
• 54:59
  And
• 54:59
  then
• 54:59
  you,
• 55:00
  as
• 55:00
  a
• 55:00
  children's
• 55:01
  book
• 55:01
  author,
• 55:01
  you
• 55:02
  just
• 55:02
  get
• 55:02
  to
• 55:03
  use
• 55:03
  your
• 55:03
  literary
• 55:04
  license
• 55:04
  and
• 55:05
  away
• 55:05
  you
• 55:05
  go.
• 55:05
  Yes,
• 55:08
  that's
• 55:08
  right.
• 55:08
  Encouragement
• 55:09
  for
• 55:10
  readers.
• 55:10
  I
• 55:10
  always
• 55:11
  say
• 55:11
  this
• 55:11
  towards
• 55:11
  the
• 55:12
  end,
• 55:12
  but
• 55:12
  why
• 55:13
  should
• 55:13
  readers
• 55:14
  read
• 55:14
  you
• 55:15
  and
• 55:15
  purchase
• 55:15
  your
• 55:16
  book?
• 55:17
  For
• 55:18
  the
• 55:18
  children,
• 55:19
  I
• 55:20
  think
• 55:20
  the
• 55:21
  both
• 55:21
  books
• 55:21
  are
• 55:22
  entertaining
• 55:23
  and
• 55:24
  I
• 55:24
  think
• 55:24
  for
• 55:24
  children's
• 55:25
  picture
• 55:25
  books,
• 55:26
  meaning
• 55:27
  ages
• 55:27
  4
• 55:27
  through
• 55:28
  8
• 55:28
  years
• 55:28
  old,
• 55:29
  basically,
• 55:29
  so
• 55:30
  you
• 55:30
  can
• 55:30
  stretch
• 55:31
  those
• 55:31
  end
• 55:31
  points.
• 55:32
  They
• 55:33
  should
• 55:33
  all
• 55:33
  be
• 55:33
  entertained.
• 55:34
  And
• 55:34
  my
• 55:35
  books,
• 55:35
  I
• 55:35
  think,
• 55:35
  are
• 55:36
  really
• 55:36
  entertaining.
• 55:37
  Kids
• 55:37
  seem
• 55:37
  to
• 55:37
  really
• 55:38
  enjoy
• 55:38
  them
• 55:39
  and
• 55:39
  they
• 55:39
  can
• 55:39
  relate
• 55:40
  to
• 55:40
  them
• 55:41
  because
• 55:41
  the
• 55:41
  first
• 55:42
  book,
• 55:42
  oh,
• 55:42
  everybody's
• 55:43
  been
• 55:43
  to
• 55:43
  a
• 55:43
  parade
• 55:44
  and
• 55:44
  gotten
• 55:44
  snow
• 55:44
  cones
• 55:45
  and
• 55:45
  they
• 55:45
  just
• 55:45
  want
• 55:46
  to
• 55:46
  tell
• 55:46
  me
• 55:46
  all
• 55:46
  sorts
• 55:46
  of
• 55:47
  things.
• 55:47
  And
• 55:48
  the
• 55:48
  second
• 55:48
  book,
• 55:49
  Circuses.
• 55:50
  A
• 55:50
  lot
• 55:50
  of
• 55:50
  kids
• 55:51
  have
• 55:51
  been
• 55:51
  to
• 55:51
  circuses
• 55:52
  or
• 55:52
  something
• 55:52
  like
• 55:52
  a
• 55:53
  circus,
• 55:53
  or
• 55:53
  they've
• 55:54
  all
• 55:54
  eaten
• 55:54
  popcorn
• 55:55
  and.
• 55:55
  But
• 55:56
  anyway,
• 55:56
  they
• 55:57
  should
• 55:59
  buy
• 55:59
  the
• 55:59
  book,
• 55:59
  read
• 56:00
  the
• 56:00
  book,
• 56:00
  because
• 56:00
  it
• 56:00
  is
• 56:01
  entertaining.
• 56:02
  And
• 56:02
  as
• 56:02
  an
• 56:03
  author,
• 56:03
  one
• 56:03
  of
• 56:03
  my
• 56:04
  goals
• 56:04
  is
• 56:04
  to
• 56:04
  Just
• 56:05
  promote
• 56:05
  the
• 56:05
  love
• 56:06
  of
• 56:06
  stories
• 56:07
  and
• 56:07
  the
• 56:07
  love
• 56:07
  of
• 56:07
  reading
• 56:08
  and
• 56:08
  children.
• 56:09
  Also,
• 56:10
  my
• 56:10
  books,
• 56:10
  they
• 56:11
  do
• 56:11
  have
• 56:11
  lessons
• 56:12
  tied
• 56:12
  in
• 56:12
  them,
• 56:13
  so
• 56:14
  I
• 56:14
  think
• 56:15
  parents
• 56:15
  should
• 56:15
  buy
• 56:16
  the
• 56:16
  books
• 56:17
  to
• 56:17
  read
• 56:17
  to
• 56:18
  their
• 56:18
  kids
• 56:18
  for
• 56:18
  the
• 56:19
  lesson
• 56:19
  aspects
• 56:20
  that
• 56:20
  are
• 56:21
  in
• 56:21
  both
• 56:21
  books.
• 56:22
  I'm
• 56:22
  glad
• 56:22
  you
• 56:22
  said
• 56:23
  that,
• 56:23
  because
• 56:23
  that's
• 56:24
  the
• 56:24
  whole
• 56:24
  thing
• 56:24
  about
• 56:24
  it,
• 56:25
  is
• 56:25
  that
• 56:26
  you
• 56:26
  had
• 56:26
  this
• 56:27
  family
• 56:27
  story,
• 56:28
  but
• 56:28
  we
• 56:28
  all
• 56:28
  have
• 56:29
  family
• 56:29
  stories.
• 56:30
  Yes.
• 56:31
  If
• 56:31
  when
• 56:32
  my
• 56:32
  mom
• 56:32
  passed
• 56:32
  away,
• 56:33
  my
• 56:33
  dad
• 56:33
  asked
• 56:33
  me
• 56:34
  what
• 56:34
  could
• 56:35
  we
• 56:35
  do?
• 56:35
  And
• 56:35
  we
• 56:36
  actually
• 56:36
  went
• 56:36
  on
• 56:37
  ancestry
• 56:38
  and.
• 56:39
  And
• 56:39
  did
• 56:39
  that
• 56:39
  whole
• 56:40
  part
• 56:41
  of
• 56:41
  our
• 56:41
  family
• 56:42
  history.
• 56:42
  Nice.
• 56:43
  And.
• 56:43
  And
• 56:44
  it
• 56:44
  made
• 56:44
  for
• 56:44
  interesting
• 56:46
  reading
• 56:46
  for
• 56:47
  us
• 56:47
  and.
• 56:47
  Right.
• 56:48
  And
• 56:48
  then
• 56:48
  you
• 56:48
  find
• 56:49
  out
• 56:49
  you
• 56:49
  kind.
• 56:49
  Of
• 56:49
  tracked
• 56:50
  your
• 56:50
  legacy.
• 56:50
  We
• 56:51
  did.
• 56:51
  We
• 56:52
  went
• 56:52
  back
• 56:52
  on
• 56:52
  my
• 56:53
  mom's
• 56:53
  side
• 56:54
  and
• 56:54
  found
• 56:54
  out
• 56:55
  that
• 56:55
  our
• 56:56
  family
• 56:56
  used
• 56:56
  to
• 56:56
  own
• 56:57
  the
• 56:57
  land
• 56:57
  that
• 56:57
  the
• 56:58
  Twin
• 56:58
  towers
• 56:58
  were
• 56:58
  on.
• 57:00
  Oh,
• 57:00
  my.
• 57:01
  You're
• 57:01
  kidding.
• 57:02
  No,
• 57:03
  no.
• 57:03
  Wow.
• 57:05
  Canada
• 57:05
  is
• 57:05
  amazing.
• 57:06
  There
• 57:06
  you
• 57:07
  go.
• 57:07
  Absolutely.
• 57:08
  And
• 57:08
  I
• 57:08
  live
• 57:08
  in
• 57:09
  Canada.
• 57:09
  I'm
• 57:09
  Canadian,
• 57:10
  but
• 57:11
  half
• 57:11
  of
• 57:11
  my
• 57:11
  roots
• 57:12
  are
• 57:13
  from
• 57:13
  the
• 57:13
  American
• 57:14
  side,
• 57:14
  so
• 57:14
  it's
• 57:14
  quite
• 57:15
  interesting.
• 57:15
  Wow.
• 57:16
  That
• 57:16
  is
• 57:16
  very
• 57:17
  interesting.
• 57:18
  Very.
• 57:18
  So.
• 57:19
  And
• 57:19
  that's
• 57:19
  what
• 57:19
  you
• 57:19
  find
• 57:20
  out.
• 57:20
  But
• 57:20
  it's
• 57:20
  nice.
• 57:20
  Yes.
• 57:21
  I
• 57:21
  haven't
• 57:21
  written
• 57:22
  a
• 57:22
  story
• 57:22
  on
• 57:22
  that,
• 57:22
  but
• 57:23
  it's
• 57:23
  nice
• 57:23
  that,
• 57:24
  you
• 57:24
  know,
• 57:24
  the
• 57:24
  people
• 57:25
  to
• 57:25
  reflect
• 57:25
  on
• 57:26
  their
• 57:26
  own
• 57:26
  family
• 57:26
  history
• 57:27
  and
• 57:27
  see
• 57:27
  if
• 57:27
  they
• 57:28
  can
• 57:28
  bring
• 57:28
  that
• 57:28
  to
• 57:28
  life
• 57:29
  through
• 57:29
  storytelling.
• 57:31
  Yes,
• 57:31
  absolutely.
• 57:32
  Yeah.
• 57:32
  That's
• 57:33
  great.
• 57:33
  That's
• 57:33
  great.
• 57:35
  We
• 57:36
  have
• 57:36
  several
• 57:36
  things
• 57:36
  in
• 57:36
  our
• 57:37
  lives
• 57:37
  that
• 57:38
  kind
• 57:38
  of
• 57:38
  parallel
• 57:40
  this
• 57:40
  conversation.
• 57:41
  Yes.
• 57:42
  Yes.
• 57:42
  Jeannie,
• 57:43
  I'm
• 57:43
  interested
• 57:44
  in
• 57:44
  final
• 57:44
  thoughts.
• 57:45
  Is
• 57:45
  there
• 57:46
  something
• 57:46
  that
• 57:47
  he
• 57:47
  said?
• 57:48
  Geez,
• 57:48
  I
• 57:48
  wish
• 57:48
  Rick
• 57:49
  would
• 57:49
  have
• 57:49
  asked
• 57:49
  me
• 57:49
  that.
• 57:50
  Is
• 57:50
  there
• 57:50
  something
• 57:50
  you'd
• 57:51
  like
• 57:51
  to
• 57:51
  share?
• 57:52
  Whether
• 57:52
  it's
• 57:52
  to
• 57:52
  readers
• 57:53
  or
• 57:53
  aspiring
• 57:54
  authors
• 57:55
  or
• 57:55
  to
• 57:55
  the
• 57:55
  audience
• 57:56
  in
• 57:56
  general,
• 57:56
  Is
• 57:57
  there
• 57:57
  some
• 57:57
  final
• 57:58
  thoughts
• 57:58
  you'd
• 57:58
  like
• 57:59
  to
• 57:59
  share?
• 57:59
  I
• 57:59
  don't
• 57:59
  know
• 57:59
  if
• 58:00
  anybody
• 58:00
  else
• 58:00
  has
• 58:00
  said
• 58:01
  this,
• 58:01
  but
• 58:02
  being
• 58:02
  a
• 58:02
  children's
• 58:03
  picture
• 58:03
  book
• 58:03
  author
• 58:04
  is
• 58:04
  very
• 58:05
  satisfying.
• 58:06
  You
• 58:06
  know
• 58:07
  that
• 58:07
  first
• 58:07
  time
• 58:07
  you
• 58:08
  get
• 58:08
  to
• 58:08
  hold
• 58:08
  your
• 58:09
  book
• 58:10
  when
• 58:11
  it's
• 58:11
  printed,
• 58:12
  see
• 58:13
  your
• 58:13
  name
• 58:13
  on
• 58:14
  it,
• 58:14
  see
• 58:14
  the
• 58:14
  colors,
• 58:15
  see
• 58:15
  the
• 58:15
  characters
• 58:16
  come
• 58:17
  to
• 58:17
  life.
• 58:18
  Because
• 58:18
  when
• 58:18
  you're
• 58:19
  writing
• 58:19
  the
• 58:19
  book,
• 58:19
  you
• 58:20
  see
• 58:20
  the
• 58:20
  pictures
• 58:21
  that
• 58:21
  the
• 58:21
  illustrator
• 58:22
  sends
• 58:22
  you,
• 58:22
  but
• 58:23
  they're
• 58:23
  piecemeal.
• 58:24
  And
• 58:24
  I
• 58:25
  don't
• 58:25
  know,
• 58:25
  it's
• 58:25
  just
• 58:25
  so
• 58:26
  satisfying
• 58:26
  when
• 58:26
  you
• 58:27
  get
• 58:27
  that
• 58:27
  book.
• 58:27
  So
• 58:28
  true.
• 58:28
  Because
• 58:29
  if
• 58:29
  it
• 58:29
  wasn't
• 58:30
  for
• 58:30
  my
• 58:30
  oldest
• 58:31
  granddaughter,
• 58:31
  we
• 58:31
  wrote
• 58:32
  our
• 58:32
  first
• 58:32
  book,
• 58:33
  the
• 58:33
  Adventures
• 58:33
  of
• 58:34
  Caboose
• 58:34
  the
• 58:34
  Rocky
• 58:35
  Mountain
• 58:35
  Bear,
• 58:35
  and
• 58:36
  she's
• 58:36
  the
• 58:36
  co
• 58:36
  author.
• 58:37
  Yes.
• 58:38
  I
• 58:38
  love
• 58:38
  that.
• 58:39
  We
• 58:39
  wrote
• 58:39
  our
• 58:40
  second
• 58:40
  book
• 58:41
  with
• 58:41
  my
• 58:42
  oldest
• 58:42
  granddaughter
• 58:43
  and
• 58:43
  my
• 58:43
  middle
• 58:44
  granddaughter.
• 58:45
  You
• 58:45
  think,
• 58:45
  oh,
• 58:46
  my
• 58:46
  goodness.
• 58:47
  Yeah.
• 58:47
  But.
• 58:48
  So
• 58:48
  it's
• 58:48
  being
• 58:48
  fun.
• 58:49
  But
• 58:49
  one
• 58:49
  of
• 58:49
  the.
• 58:49
  One
• 58:50
  of
• 58:50
  the
• 58:50
  neat
• 58:50
  things
• 58:50
  that
• 58:51
  you
• 58:51
  might
• 58:51
  want
• 58:51
  to
• 58:51
  be
• 58:51
  able
• 58:52
  to
• 58:52
  do
• 58:52
  is
• 58:53
  that
• 58:53
  you
• 58:54
  have
• 58:54
  your
• 58:54
  oldest
• 58:54
  granddaughter
• 58:55
  interested,
• 58:56
  is
• 58:56
  maybe
• 58:57
  she
• 58:57
  helps
• 58:57
  you
• 58:57
  cool
• 58:58
  off
• 58:58
  through
• 58:58
  your
• 58:58
  next
• 58:58
  book.
• 58:59
  I
• 58:59
  would
• 58:59
  love
• 59:00
  that.
• 59:00
  I
• 59:00
  would
• 59:01
  love
• 59:01
  that.
• 59:01
  That's
• 59:02
  so
• 59:02
  much
• 59:02
  fun.
• 59:02
  And
• 59:03
  the
• 59:03
  other
• 59:03
  thing
• 59:03
  that
• 59:03
  I've
• 59:04
  done
• 59:04
  with
• 59:04
  my
• 59:04
  grandchildren
• 59:05
  is
• 59:06
  we've
• 59:06
  actually
• 59:06
  written
• 59:07
  38
• 59:07
  stories
• 59:08
  in
• 59:08
  our
• 59:09
  series
• 59:09
  of
• 59:10
  the
• 59:10
  Adventures
• 59:10
  of
• 59:10
  Caboose,
• 59:11
  the
• 59:11
  Milwaukee
• 59:12
  Mountain
• 59:12
  Bear.
• 59:13
  And
• 59:13
  about
• 59:13
  half
• 59:13
  of
• 59:13
  them
• 59:14
  we've
• 59:14
  turned
• 59:14
  into
• 59:14
  audiobooks.
• 59:16
  So
• 59:18
  because
• 59:18
  as
• 59:18
  like
• 59:18
  you
• 59:19
  said
• 59:19
  before,
• 59:19
  it's
• 59:20
  expensive
• 59:20
  to
• 59:21
  bring
• 59:21
  a
• 59:21
  book
• 59:21
  to
• 59:21
  market,
• 59:22
  a
• 59:22
  print
• 59:22
  book
• 59:23
  to
• 59:23
  market,
• 59:23
  but
• 59:24
  doing
• 59:24
  the
• 59:24
  audiobooks,
• 59:25
  if
• 59:25
  you've
• 59:26
  written
• 59:26
  the
• 59:26
  story,
• 59:28
  it
• 59:28
  doesn't.
• 59:29
  Anyone
• 59:29
  who
• 59:29
  has
• 59:29
  an
• 59:30
  iPhone
• 59:31
  can
• 59:32
  record
• 59:33
  a
• 59:33
  children's
• 59:34
  book.
• 59:34
  Yes.
• 59:35
  Oh,
• 59:36
  that's
• 59:36
  a
• 59:36
  fabulous
• 59:37
  idea.
• 59:38
  Yeah.
• 59:38
  Thank
• 59:38
  you.
• 59:38
  So,
• 59:39
  yeah,
• 59:39
  a
• 59:39
  lot
• 59:39
  of
• 59:39
  fun.
• 59:39
  So
• 59:40
  there
• 59:40
  you
• 59:40
  go.
• 59:40
  The
• 59:41
  next
• 59:41
  time
• 59:41
  you
• 59:41
  get
• 59:41
  together
• 59:41
  with
• 59:42
  your
• 59:42
  grandchildren,
• 59:43
  create
• 59:43
  a
• 59:44
  couple
• 59:44
  of
• 59:44
  audiobooks.
• 59:45
  There
• 59:45
  we
• 59:46
  go.
• 59:47
  Oh,
• 59:48
  Katie,
• 59:48
  I
• 59:48
  want
• 59:49
  to
• 59:49
  thank
• 59:49
  you
• 59:49
  so
• 59:49
  much
• 59:50
  for
• 59:50
  being
• 59:50
  a
• 59:50
  guest
• 59:51
  on
• 59:51
  the
• 59:51
  Adventures
• 59:52
  in
• 59:52
  the
• 59:52
  Heart
• 59:52
  of
• 59:52
  Children's
• 59:53
  Book
• 59:53
  Authors
• 59:53
  podcast.
• 59:54
  Your
• 59:55
  generosity
• 59:55
  of
• 59:56
  time
• 59:56
  and
• 59:56
  insights,
• 59:57
  you
• 59:57
  share
• 59:58
  so
• 59:58
  many
• 59:58
  great
• 59:59
  little
• 59:59
  things,
• 1:00:00
  such
• 1:00:00
  as
• 1:00:01
  the
• 1:00:01
  Amazon
• 1:00:01
  bestseller
• 1:00:02
  categories.
• 1:00:03
  That's
• 1:00:03
  something
• 1:00:04
  we've
• 1:00:04
  never
• 1:00:04
  talked
• 1:00:05
  about
• 1:00:05
  before
• 1:00:05
  and
• 1:00:06
  people
• 1:00:06
  should
• 1:00:06
  do
• 1:00:06
  research
• 1:00:07
  into
• 1:00:07
  that.
• 1:00:08
  We
• 1:00:08
  promise
• 1:00:08
  our
• 1:00:09
  audience
• 1:00:09
  that
• 1:00:09
  we're
• 1:00:10
  going
• 1:00:10
  to
• 1:00:10
  provide
• 1:00:10
  links
• 1:00:11
  to
• 1:00:11
  Jeanne's
• 1:00:12
  social
• 1:00:12
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• 1:00:13
  and
• 1:00:13
  her
• 1:00:14
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• 1:00:25
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• 1:00:28
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• 1:00:28
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• 1:00:28
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• 1:00:29
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• 1:00:31
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• 1:00:31
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• 1:00:32
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• 1:00:33
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• 1:00:34
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• 1:00:34
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• 1:00:34
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• 1:00:35
  Jeanne.
• 1:00:36
  Thank
• 1:00:36
  you,
• 1:00:37
  thank
• 1:00:37
  you
• 1:00:37
  for
• 1:00:38
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• 1:00:38
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• 1:00:39
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• 1:00:41
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• 1:00:41
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• 1:00:42
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• 1:00:42
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• 1:00:43
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• 1:00:43
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• 1:00:44
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• 1:00:44
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• 1:00:44
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• 1:00:44
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• 1:00:44
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• 1:00:45
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• 1:00:45
  energy
• 1:00:45
  on
• 1:00:46
  your
• 1:00:46
  part,
• 1:00:46
  so
• 1:00:46
  thank
• 1:00:46
  you.