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Finding Purpose Through Pain · The World Knowledge

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  Speaker 1: Well, good morning, listeners. Thank you for listening to Lament
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  Speaker 1: of Hope podcast, and thank you for listening, watching, whichever
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  Speaker 1: platform you're on. I'm excited because I am speaking today,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going to try to get this right because
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  Speaker 1: I want to say it correctly. Giuseppe D'Agno. Oh, he's nodding. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I did it. I did it. And he, I
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  Speaker 1: actually was introduced to him through the Great British Baking Show,
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  Speaker 1: for those of you who love that. And he was
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  Speaker 1: the winner of season 12, which was in 2021. And
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  Speaker 1: he kind of won my heart too, because my family
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  Speaker 1: originates from Italy. And so getting to see him kind
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  Speaker 1: of represent Italians and put all of these different dishes together.
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  Speaker 1: And it was just, it was very sweet. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I wonder where, what happened to him, what
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  Speaker 1: he's doing. And so I ended up researching, you know,
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  Speaker 1: finding out that he has a catering company. He's been doing,
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  Speaker 1: he has recipe books. He has baking classes you can
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  Speaker 1: take part in. And he's very active on socials, which
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  Speaker 1: I will link under here. And so I just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to talk with him and get to know him and
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  Speaker 1: his journey. So Giuseppe, thank you so much for being here.
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  Speaker 2: My pleasure. My pleasure. I think you've hit a spot
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  Speaker 2: there in terms of Italian heritage being spread all over
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  Speaker 2: the world. What's interesting, if you look at my social
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  Speaker 2: media following, for example, although the Great British Baking Show
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  Speaker 2: or the Great British Bake Off, depending on which country
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  Speaker 2: you're in, is traditionally a quintessentially British TV show, it's
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  Speaker 2: very much all over the world. And it got me
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  Speaker 2: that level of global exposure that has made my Instagram
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  Speaker 2: account jump from non-existent to 250,000 followers overnight. But the
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  Speaker 2: interesting part is that half of them are Americans, the
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  Speaker 2: other half is effectively UK slash Europeans. And I find
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  Speaker 2: a lot of... resonance with the American audience because there
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of people in the US that have
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  Speaker 2: got some level of Italian heritage. And as you say,
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  Speaker 2: they've used me as a conduit to rediscover some of
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  Speaker 2: the recipes that their grandmother used to make. There are
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  Speaker 2: some very funny anecdotes about that because the problem is
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  Speaker 2: that obviously after the Italian diaspora in the last century,
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  Speaker 2: people that emigrated to the US or South America or
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  Speaker 2: wherever around the world brought with them all their heritage,
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  Speaker 2: their recipes, their traditions. But they were not necessarily all
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  Speaker 2: super literate or highly educated, so maybe they didn't know
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  Speaker 2: how to write it properly. They knew the dialect of
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  Speaker 2: that name rather than the proper Italian version. So the
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  Speaker 2: descendants of those people now are struggling to find the
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  Speaker 2: recipes that their grandmothers used to make because they were
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  Speaker 2: just misnamed. There is this lady that got in touch
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  Speaker 2: with me. I think she was from Canada. And it
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  Speaker 2: was Christmas time and they published a batch of biscuits,
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  Speaker 2: Christmas biscuits that are really traditional in my region. They
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  Speaker 2: were called susamelli. They are shaped like an S. They're
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  Speaker 2: made with lots of honey and flour with no sugar
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  Speaker 2: at all. And they've got a very distinctive flavor. And
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  Speaker 2: this lady saw this photo on Instagram. And she got
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  Speaker 2: in touch and she commented and she said, finally, I've
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  Speaker 2: been haunting this recipe for decades because my grandmother used
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  Speaker 2: to call them Susie Meals. But whenever you go online
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  Speaker 2: and look for Susie Mills biscuits, they just don't exist,
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  Speaker 2: rather than Susa Melli. So she finally recognized the shape,
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  Speaker 2: and she was very excited that she could access the
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  Speaker 2: recipe and try it at home. And she did say
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  Speaker 2: that they tasted exactly like her grandmothers used to make,
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  Speaker 2: which to me is the best compliment you can possibly
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  Speaker 2: give to a baker. So yeah, I think that there
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  Speaker 2: is a lot of the love that I perceive from
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  Speaker 2: people all over the world is because of the heritage
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  Speaker 2: that they've got somewhere in their family tree dating back
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  Speaker 2: to the last century that links them up with the
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  Speaker 2: Italian culture.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree with you. I think that's one
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  Speaker 1: reason too why so many people love that show because
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  Speaker 1: there's so many different types of people represented and individuals
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  Speaker 1: and from different countries and they're bringing all these different
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  Speaker 1: flavors from those countries into their bakes. I did want
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  Speaker 1: to ask you because when you're talking about heritage, food
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  Speaker 1: is so connected to a country or a people group
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  Speaker 1: if you– If someone visits a country, they're always like,
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  Speaker 1: what was the food like? You know, that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: the first question. Why do you think people, why is
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  Speaker 1: food so important to heritage? Like, why do you think
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  Speaker 1: there's such a big connection between the food and the
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  Speaker 1: people group?