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All Hell Breaks Loose When Maxwell Frost Insults Trump And Musk During House Oversight Hearing · Elon Musk Podcast

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  for the show Elon Musk News. Open from Wisconsin.
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  Just a comment because I've heard similar comments from
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  other members of your party and of course I love working with
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  you guys. When when Elon Musk or Doge or
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  or the president look into some of the federal employees around
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  here and we all know federal employees around here because
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  maybe we have relatives, we have friends what not work in the
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  government. We hear some scare stories about
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  people doing and there are many, many hard working federal
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  employees and glad we have good federal employees.
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  But we hear anecdotal evidence of people doing very little.
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  If President Trump is the head of the executive branch and he
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  discovers some employees doing very little, your position is
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  apparently that we must keep these people going through the
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  next budget or what have you and keep doing very little.
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  It is obvious to me that both President Trump and the American
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  public, upon discovering people who are doing very little work,
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  should ask that those employees be terminated.
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  It's not something he does joyfully, but that is what you
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  do if you are running the executive branch.
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  And it is ridiculous that we have to have President Trump
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  attacked and the Republican Party attacked when an effort is
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  made to find employees who are doing very little.
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  I am glad that President Trump is assigned people look into
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  this. And I, I, I, they're, they're
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  critical things you can say about the Republicans, but I
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  wish you'd focus on that rather than trying to claim that every
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  federal employee here in this town is necessary.
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  Would you yield for a question? Sure.
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  Well, because you're bringing up that it should be OK and you see
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  no problem with the Trump administration and with DOGE
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  doing this mass firing because, quote UN quote, people are doing
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  very little. How are they figuring out who's
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  doing very little? I'm just curious.
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  Well, you'll have to ask them. Right.
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  I'll have to ask them. So you're OK with being behind
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  a, well, something that's happening?
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  Mass Congressman Groffman's time.
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  The president is in charge of the executive branch.
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  I would assume at any given time people are being hired and being
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  fired, probably more than have been the last 50 years around
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  here. But they are they are are not
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  going to report to Congress every time they fill a position
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  is unnecessary that would. Be sure, gentlemen, yield this
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  time to Mr. Gosar you know, Glenn, I'd like to ask you about
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  wasn't wasn't there. This is not novel.
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  Having somebody like this wasn't the Ezekiel Emanuel part of the
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  Obamacare. And I don't know what's more
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  personal or our personal financial or our personal.
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  No, all presidents have unconfirmed advise.
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  Thank you. That is not a new thing either.
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  Where the gentleman yields. Chair, gentleman yields back
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  right. Is it your position that the
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  president can file delete any agency?
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  Credit Oh yeah, Joe, who yielded his time back chair, goes Mr.
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  Kristamorte from Illinois. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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  I, I just to very briefly address Mr. Grossman.
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  I, I, I take you at, you know, as being serious about wanting
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  to improve efficiency in government and so forth.
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  I think the issue is when you fire or give a pink slip to
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  200,000 probationary workers at one time, regardless of their
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  efficiency, I think that's where there's a serious concern that's
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  raised. But I want to just address one
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  other issue, Mr. Comer, and that's the US Postal Service.
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  On December 14th, 2024, the Washington Post reported that
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  the Trump administration was considering at that time a move
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  to privatize the Postal Service and push thousands of federal
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  service employees out of their jobs in favor of a broad
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  privatization of the agency's essential services.
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  Then just last week on February 20th, the Washington Post stated
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  that the administration is preparing to quote, dissolve the
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  leadership of the USPS and absorb the independent mail
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  agency into his administration. As you know, the Commerce
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  Department potentially throwing trillions of dollars of
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  e-commerce transactions into turmoil.
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  These reports are beyond troubling and I respectfully
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  request that you have a hearing again on the USPS.
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  You had a very good hearing the other day where we're we were
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  able to grill Mr. Dejoy and I learned a lot.
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  I think a lot of our members on both sides learned a lot.
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  I think we need to have a hearing on this particular
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  issue. As you know, the USPS is the
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  foundation of our $1.92 trillion mailing industry, LED
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  courageously by numerous veterans letter carriers who
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  deliver 44% of the world's mail. More importantly, no private
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  sector entity provides universal service across the nation, and
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  without these letter carriers and others, more than 51.5
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  million households and businesses, especially in rural
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  communities, Mr. Chairman, would have no guaranteed delivery.
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  As a member of this panel tasked with oversight of the federal
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  government activities, including the USPSI believe it's
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  essential, it's imperative that we have this hearing.
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  Sir, I know that you and the and the Ranking Member care deeply
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  about the USPS and what the administration is proposing to
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  do with the USPS, in my opinion, is illegal.
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  It is against the framework of the USPS and we need to look
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  into it. I yield back.
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  Gentleman yields back before I recognize Miss Green from from
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  Georgia I'll just responded when we see a proposal something we
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  will have something either a briefing or a committee hearing
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  or subcommittee hearing or or something I'm interested as well
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  to see what you mentioned potentially throw it into
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  turmoil. Some would argue the Postal
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  Service is already in turmoil right now with the the the
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  delays in certain mail sorting facilities.
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  So I agree with what you said. I know you're sincere and I
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  think Ranking Member Connelly and I have demonstrated we, we
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  want to support the Postal Service.
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  And so when we find out more, we'll we'll do something
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  immediately, have a briefing or a or a subcommittee hearing or
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  full committee hearing. OK, Chair, recognize Miss Green
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  from Georgia. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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  Democrat colleagues across the aisle are complaining and
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  pitching tantrums over Elon Musk and his Dodge teams cutting
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  waste, fraud and abuse from the executive branch and the federal
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  government. Claiming this is
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  unconstitutional is an outright lie.
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  Article 2 of the Constitution clearly states that the
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  executive power shall be vested in a President of the United
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  States of America. President Trump exercised that
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  power by appointing Mr. Elon Musk as a special government
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  employee. The President, via executive
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  order, created the US Dodge Service within the former US
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  Digital Service to implement the President's Dodge agenda by
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  modernizing federal technology and software to maximize
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  governmental efficiency and productivity.
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  Dodge has been brought in exactly like the US Digital
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  Service during President Obama's tenure.
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  This is not unconstitutional. 72% of Americans.
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  This is on both sides of the aisles.
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  You guys, these are people in your district.
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  These are people in my district. Agree that we need to cut the
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  ridiculous amount of waste, fraud and abuse because
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  Americans, all of us together are $36 trillion in debt, $36
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  trillion in debt is what should be unconstitutional.
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  Not doing everything we can to save the American people.
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  They're hard earned tax dollars. You can protest all you want
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  outside of departments of this government.
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  You can protest all you want, but the American people disagree
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  with you. You're protecting the
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  bureaucracy. The bureaucracy is not a
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  business. Those are not real jobs
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  producing federal revenue by the way.
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  They're consuming taxpayer dollars.
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  Those jobs are paid for by the American tax.
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  People who work real jobs, earn real income, pay federal taxes,
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  and then pay these federal employees.
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  Federal employees do not deserve their jobs.
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  Federal employees not do not deserve their paychecks.
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  And these are jobs that can be fired at will.
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  But you want to know why the American people can't pay for it
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  anymore? We cannot afford it, $36
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  trillion in debt. If you want to make that your
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  platform, your hill to die on, go ahead.
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  Because 72% of Americans agree with DOGE, agree with cutting
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  the waste, fraud and abuse, and agree with what this committee
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  is supposed to be about oversight.
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  So continue, continue your temper tantrums.
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  I would love to win the midterms.
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  Mr. Chairman, I yield back. Title A yields back chair guys,
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  Mr. Frost from Florida. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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  I appreciate it. You know, in the in the mission
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  statement that you've put out for this committee, it says it's
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  ensure that the economy, efficiency, effectiveness and
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  accountability of the federal government, which I think we all
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  agree on. We all want to combat waste
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  fodder and abuse. But The thing is that y'all are
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  all looking in the wrong places. You want to talk about making
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  cuts to things like Medicaid, which by the way, over 35% of
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  all the children in this country are covered under Medicaid.
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  Over 100,000 people in my district are covered under
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  Medicaid. People like the grifter in
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  chief, Trump and President Musk are openly using their public
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  offices to enrich themselves to the tune of billions of dollars.
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  So if we want to look at waste, fraud and abuse, which I'm down
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  to do, why is there complete silence on the other side of the
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  aisle about looking at the complete grifter that the is the
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  president of the United States and the richest man on the
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  earth, which is looking into things like.
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  Social. Security and.
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  Different things like that. Why don't we investigate out of
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  order the real? Corruption.
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  Hold off, hold off. Point of order.
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  Time. Point of.
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  Order, Mr. Chairman, Hold off, hold off, hold off.
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  There was a point of order when you said something.
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  Who? Who, who asked for it?
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  Mr. Higgins. I can refer to Elon Musk as the
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  president. I don't think the First
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  Amendment has been suspended in this committee yet.
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  Yeah, y'all were fine with with. Suspend for a second.
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  Just a. Few weeks ago.
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  But before Mr. Frost. Mr. Frost, right?
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  After being elected President of the United States.
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  Mr. Frost, before we proceed on. All of this, Mr. Chairman.
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  You like to hold on. I'm the, I'm the chairman.
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  I'm recognize, Miss Frost, and we'll recognize recognize you.
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  Would you like to revise your remark with respect to
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  improperly identifying the President of the United States?
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  I'll say President Musk and grifter and Chief Trump.
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  Hey, Mr. Mr. Chairman, point of order.
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  If I wanted to challenge someone to a.
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  Fight they would know it thank you there's.
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  There's an extra fundraising video for her.
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  Mr. Chairman, Mr. Chairman, I don't believe that Mister Musk
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  is protected by the rules of the House or the Committee and and
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  and. No, we're, we're looking at the
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  disparaging the president now. But I don't believe Mr. Frost
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  disparage the president. I believe he disparage Mr. Musk.
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  Well, he did disparage. Mr. Chairman, if Mr. Musk
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  actually team here, then maybe the.
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  Rule all right. I heard no disparagement.
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  I'll say something else. We'll save a lot of.
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  Time I'll say something else. OK, All right.
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  We're going to let Chair recognize Mr. Frost.
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  You still have 349. You're going to maybe revise the
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  the disparaging comment about the president because that's
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  supposed to be our decorum here. And.
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  It is supposed to be President Musk and the President of the
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  United States, Donald Trump, who is engaged in grifting of the
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  American people often use their public offices to enrich
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  themselves. Someone on the other side was
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  just asking how would you feel if you called someone else from?
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  Hold off, Hold off, Rich Frost, hold off.
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  There's a, There's a pending motion for disparaging the
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  president. The, the so the motion was words
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  taken down about disparaging the president.
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  And the chair finds the words for the gentleman from Florida
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  are not parliamentary because they constitute personalities
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  toward the president, which if you sit in the House floor,
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  that's always uttered by the presiding officer on the House
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  floor, you cannot disparage the president.
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  I'd say so. Mr. Chairman, would you please
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  read back to us the words that were disparaging because I
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  didn't hear them if. You're willing to request
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  unanimous consent to withdraw the disparaging president?
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  The comments about President Trump, I guess you can disparage
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  Elon Musk if you want. I will withdraw Drifter in
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  Chief, and I will. I will say the president's
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  grifting because you spent the last two years like president
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  word you can say, I can say that Trump is drifting.
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  What I will withdraw is calling him drifter in chief.
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  That is what I would. Share sustains the point of
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  order, and the words in question are ordered stricken from the
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  transcript of this proceeding. So the member is barred from
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  further participation. I, I, I challenge the ruling of
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  the chair. Challenge the ruling of the
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  chair. I moved.
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  To table move the OK, we have a motion to challenge rule in the
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  chair. And then Mr. Gosar made a motion
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  to table the second Conley Conley's motion.
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  So there's a motion and 2nd to table Mr. Conley's motion.
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  The motion is not debatable. As many as are in favor of
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  tabling signify by saying aye, aye.
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  All those opposed signify by saying no, no in the opinion.
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  Mr. Chairman, I ask for a recorded.
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  Vote A recorded vote is ordered. The clerk will call the roll.
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  Mr. Jordan? Mr. Jordan votes yes.
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  Mr. Turner. Mr. Gosar.
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  Mr. Gosar votes yes. Miss Fox.
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  Mr. Grossman. Mr. Grossman votes yes.
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  Mr. Cloud. Mr. Cloud votes yes.
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  Mr. Palmer. Mr. Palmer votes aye.
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  Mr. Higgins. Mr. Higgins votes yes.
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  Mr. Sessions. Mr. Sessions votes aye.
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  Mr. Biggs. Mr. Biggs votes aye.
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  Miss Mace. Miss Mace votes aye, Mr. Fallon.
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  Aye. Mr. Fallon votes aye.
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  Mr. Donalds. Mr. Perry.
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  Mr. Perry votes aye. Mr. Timmons.
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  Mr. Timmons votes aye. Mr. Burchett.
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  Miss Green. Miss Green votes aye.
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  Miss Bobert. Miss Bobert votes aye.
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  Miss Luna. Mr. Langworthy.
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  Mr. Burleson. Mr. Burleson votes aye.
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  Mr. Crane. Mr. Crane Votes aye.
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  Mister Jack. Aye.
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  Mister Jack votes aye, Mr. McGuire.
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  Mr. McGuire votes yes, Mr. Gill. Mr. Gill votes aye, Mr.
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  Connolly. Nay.
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  Mr. Connolly votes nay, Miss Norton.
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  No. Miss Norton votes no, Mr. Lynch.
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  No. Mr. Lynch votes no.
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  Mr. Krishnamoorthy no. Mr. Krishnamoorthy votes no, Mr.
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  Khanna. No.
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  Mr. Khanna votes no, Mr. Mfume. No.
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  Mr. Mfume Votes no Miss Brown, No Miss Brown.
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  Votes no, Miss Dansbury. Absolutely not.
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  Miss Dansbury votes no. Mr. Garcia.
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  Mr. Garcia votes no Mr. Frost No Mr. Frost votes no.
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  Miss Lee. Miss Lee votes no.
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  Mr. Kasar. Miss Crockett.
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  Insulting people's. Appearance as well as trying to
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  fight them isn't a problem. Point of order, it's a yes.
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  Or no, we're so. Sad, but for those, no.
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  That our order. Yes or not.
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  Just skip our. Skip our.
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  Skip our here, skip our. Go to the next one, go to the
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  next the MSNBC anchor, go to the next one.
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  Don't count that. Go to the.
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  Next one, Miss Randall votes no. Mr. Subramanyam.
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  Wait. Mr. Subramanyam votes no, miss.
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  And sorry, Mr. Bell. Mr. Bell votes no.
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  Miss Simon. Miss Simon votes no.
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  Mr. Min No. Mr. Min votes no.
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  Miss Presley. Miss Talib?
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  Nope. Miss Talib votes no.
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  Mr. Chairman. Yes.
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  Mr. Chairman, votes yes. Mr. Chairman, how is Miss
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  Crockett recorded? Let's let's let's try this one
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  more time. How is Miss Crockett voted?
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  Miss Crockett is not yet recorded.
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  No all. Right.
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  I thank my colleague. Miss Crockett votes no.
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  Mr. Chairman, how is Mr. Kesar recorded?
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  Mr. Kasar is not recorded. Mr. Kasar votes no.
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  Mr. Chairman, on this vote the ayes are 20.
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  The nays are 19. Aye, the the motion to table
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  passes. I now recognize Mr. McGuire.
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  I want to say it's despicable that this committee is going to
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  silence me for bringing the Ross.
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  Mr. Frost. Mr. Frost.
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  Speak for the rest of the hearing.
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  Making millions of. Dollars.
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  Mr. Frost, Mr. Ranking Member, I'm going to have the Sergeant
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  armed remove him if he doesn't refrain.
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  All right. Chair recognizes Mr. McGuire.
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  Mr. Chairman, parliamentary inquiry, parliamentary inquiry.
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  Mr. McGuire. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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  Mr. Chairman, I'd. Like to.
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