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Primal Fear rewatch with Melyssa Ford · The Bald Brothers Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: What up, y'all?
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  Speaker 2: It's your boy, Kemo State.
• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Tony Baker.
• 0:02
  Speaker 2: And our special guest.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Melissa Ford is back, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Melissa Ford, gesticulation, innovation, Scrabble champion. This is the Bob
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  Speaker 2: Brothers Rewatch Podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Anytime we have a guest on the pod for the Rewatch,
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  Speaker 4: we are rewatching one of their favorite movies. Melissa Ford
• 0:22
  Speaker 4: submitted to Tony and I to rewatch Primal Fear.
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  Speaker 3: I had a few options beforehand, but they mixed those.
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  Speaker 5: Tell the people about the option you gave me.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so there's this movie called The Skin I Live In,
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: I believe it's called. It's got Antonio Banderas in it.
• 0:38
  Speaker 3: It's got subtitles. But I promise you, it's worth the watch.
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  Speaker 3: And then I also loved Under the Skin.
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: I saw that one.
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  Speaker 3: With Scarlett Johansson.
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  Speaker 2: What's she doing with skin?
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: I don't like.
• 0:49
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: Skin McGee. I don't like it.
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  Speaker 3: Those two movies, they're extraordinarily cerebral and heavy.
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: And weird.
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  Speaker 3: And weird. So they told me no. They said, pick
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: some normal shit, Melissa. And more than seven people have fucking.
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  Speaker 1: Seen Under the Skin. I've never heard of a movie
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  Speaker 1: that's saying a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: I've never even heard of it.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, what the hell is this?
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  Speaker 3: So, all right. So the movie is Primal Fear.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And come to find out, Kev had never seen it before.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm a huge Edward Norton fan. This was his
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: breakout role. I know. Now I know. I went back
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  Speaker 2: and did my research.
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  Speaker 4: Laura Linney, Richard Gere was great.
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: Andre Brouwer.
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  Speaker 2: Andre Brouwer.
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  Speaker 1: Hair. He did have.
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  Speaker 2: Hair in that joint. He had hair, no lineup.
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  Speaker 3: He did have hair.
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  Speaker 1: Francis McDormand in there. Francis McDormand is in that thing.
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  Speaker 2: The dad from Frasier walking around good.
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  Speaker 1: I said, what you doing walking around? And being a
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  Speaker 1: mean person. That cast, Alfre Woodard is the judge.
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  Speaker 2: Alfre Woodard is the judge.
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  Speaker 1: That cast was crazy.
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  Speaker 2: The cast was outrageous.
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  Speaker 1: Let me get y'all my box office nerd real quick.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man.
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  Speaker 5: Primal Fear came out in 1996 and made $ 56 million domestically,
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  Speaker 5: another $ 46. 5 million internationally for a total of $ 102 million
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  Speaker 5: It was a nice little slow burn, sleeper hit that
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  Speaker 5: people kept talking about. So it was hanging in there.
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  Speaker 5: So it did well financially. And Edward Norton was up
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  Speaker 5: for the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, was he? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He lost to Cuba Gooding Jr.
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  Speaker 5: For Jerry Maguire. How y'all feel about this? Do you
• 2:29
  Speaker 5: think Edward was robbed?
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  Speaker 3: No, not robbed.
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  Speaker 1: Not robbed.
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  Speaker 3: Not robbed. Not robbed.
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  Speaker 2: Not robbed.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, because Cuba Gooding Jr., that just.
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: Show me the money.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, come on now.
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  Speaker 2: He was so good at robbing.
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  Speaker 1: It was so mean worthy. Show me the money.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the performance was so mean worthy and just
• 2:44
  Speaker 3: kind of sticks out in our heads.
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  Speaker 5: And Edward, I believe, was the favorite because he had won.
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  Speaker 5: He was winning the other award.
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  Speaker 1: Golden Globes. You know he always got the other award show.
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  Speaker 1: So he was leading up. I think he was the favorite,
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  Speaker 1: but it was like Cuba Gooding Jr.
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  Speaker 3: That was nice.
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  Speaker 2: That was nice.
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  Speaker 1: Totally, two totally different performance types.
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  Speaker 4: And for sure, the way they vote Oscars, I'm actually
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  Speaker 4: even more surprised that Cuba won.
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  Speaker 1: Me too.
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  Speaker 4: Because that role for Edward Norton, that is like the Oscars,
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  Speaker 4: that's your type of thing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Psychopath or mental instability, some sort of thing like that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm really surprised that he won even more. And I
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  Speaker 4: love Jerry Maguire.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jerry Maguire is great.
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  Speaker 4: But man, it's just, and I don't think the Oscars
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  Speaker 4: should vote like that. I don't like the idea of
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  Speaker 4: an Oscar type of movie. I think you should be
• 3:37
  Speaker 4: if the role is, so I'm so mad that Eddie
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  Speaker 4: Murphy didn't win for DreamWorks.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's been burning your soul for centuries. On my coffin.
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  Speaker 1: You go in.
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  Speaker 2: Scratch in. Eddie Murphy should have won.
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  Speaker 5: I wish I had $ 100 for every time you talk
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  Speaker 5: about this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. Alan Arkin wasn't doing nothing, man.
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  Speaker 1: Watch out.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't do nothing. Bruh.
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: You saw a little bit of sunshine, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. All right.
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  Speaker 1: You got to make sure.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't do nothing compared to what Eddie was doing
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: as Jimmy Early. The rise and fall of Jimmy Early
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  Speaker 2: should have been his own movie. Just Eddie Murphy when
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  Speaker 2: he was stringing up the heroin and they was telling
• 4:15
  Speaker 2: him to watch out. The way he was like. And
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  Speaker 2: they was like, I can't take this. And then the
• 4:21
  Speaker 2: dude left, man. I don't know. I can't even bring
• 4:23
  Speaker 2: nothing close to that in no Little Miss Sunshine. It's
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: just Quirky McGee and White. Yeah. Quirk, quirk, quirk.
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  Speaker 1: Man, Hollywood loves Alan.
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  Speaker 2: Arkin, man.
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  Speaker 1: It could have been like, we owe you for this.
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  Speaker 1: It was Jamie Lee Curtis again.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, bro, who cares? That role wasn't Oscar worthy.
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  Speaker 1: He did more than Jamie Lee did in anywhere about
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  Speaker 1: to do anything.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't mean that. I mean like, we love
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  Speaker 2: your career.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know if we're going to have another chance
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  Speaker 4: to give you an Oscar. It's like that stuff be
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  Speaker 4: weighing in.
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  Speaker 5: And they probably hated on Eddie Murphy because of what
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  Speaker 5: he said at the Oscars years before.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. We ain't forgot.
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: And Norbit.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Norbert heard. No, he said that in
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: his documentary. That's what he said, but.
• 5:02
  Speaker 5: I think it's more to do with what he said
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  Speaker 5: when he was at the Oscars.
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  Speaker 2: You don't believe what he said?
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: Because he put them on blast.
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: Big time. And I feel like they probably- I think
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  Speaker 2: it was that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: And also, he doesn't go.
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  Speaker 2: No, he don't go.
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  Speaker 3: No, he doesn't go.
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  Speaker 5: So they was just like, no, you don't fuck with
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  Speaker 5: us anyway, Eddie Murphy, Alan Arkin.
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  Speaker 2: Sean Penn didn't do a thing.
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  Speaker 1: He don't be showing up either.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't come to know. They didn't campaign.
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  Speaker 1: This ain't the first time.
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  Speaker 2: He's notorious for it. They're like, oh, you hate us?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oscar.
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Charles Clinton wasn't at one party. He wasn't even
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  Speaker 2: in America.
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  Speaker 1: He did zero campaigning.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's usually off somewhere, like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: like in Ukraine. He's just always doing something.
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  Speaker 2: Humanitarian McGee.
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  Speaker 3: Next to the president.
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  Speaker 1: Literally on the front lines.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, I can't go.
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing other shit.
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  Speaker 2: Literally.
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  Speaker 3: I'm saving the world.
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  Speaker 1: Michael B.
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  Speaker 2: Jordan, Ryan Coogler, Sinner's cast went to 7,642 events. They did. Campaigning.
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  Speaker 2: Sean Penn was like, I'm at the house. Tell them
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  Speaker 2: I'm over at the Ukraine.
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  Speaker 4: That man was watching WNBA games at the crib.
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  Speaker 2: And they had him that Oscar, and he wasn't there neither.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't even go to the Oscar.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be on the front lines. I'm interviewing the president
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  Speaker 1: of Ukraine. So tell me about you. Is that my
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  Speaker 1: daughter in there?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, but that role was pretty great.
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  Speaker 5: Listen.
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  Speaker 1: I was. That role was pretty crazy.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing. But my point, Melissa.
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  Speaker 3: Ford, is one way or the other.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: I overstand.
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  Speaker 4: Either you got to do the stuff or your work
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  Speaker 4: stands on it. You can't pick and choose when you
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  Speaker 4: got to do it and when the work stands on
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  Speaker 4: its own.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if Eddie campaigned.
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  Speaker 3: Who?
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  Speaker 2: Eddie?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: Well, nope.
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  Speaker 3: Let me stand back. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember him doing heavy campaigning.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't remember that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember that either.
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  Speaker 1: I don't hold you.
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  Speaker 5: All I know is he put the Oscars on the grill.
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  Speaker 1: Rightfully so. At the Oscars.
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  Speaker 3: Is it possible that his, not his work, but he
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  Speaker 3: and his performance was overshadowed because there was so much
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  Speaker 3: talk about Jennifer Hudson? That was the campaign everybody was watching.
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  Speaker 2: But see, that's a good point.
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  Speaker 3: And I obviously know man, woman, different, you know, supporting actor,
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  Speaker 3: supporting actor.
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  Speaker 4: But even everything, everyone all at once. It was the
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  Speaker 4: same thing. It was Ki-Hoo-Kwon.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It was Jamie Lee. It was Stephanie Sue. It was
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  Speaker 4: Michelle Yeoh. It was all up for that movie.
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  Speaker 1: You could definitely rank up for the same movie, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Ki-Won?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Jennifer Hudson heard him at all.
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  Speaker 4: No, I think she was actually a really big surprise. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think she heard him at all. That she
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  Speaker 4: actually won that.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, Primal Fear.
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  Speaker 1: Melissa Ford.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so Primal Fear comes on the TV one day
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, oh shit, I love this movie.
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  Speaker 3: And you guys, I love to re-watch.
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  Speaker 2: No, let's go back before that.
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 4: Your first time watching it. What made you want to
• 7:42
  Speaker 4: watch Primal Fear the first time? Did you watch it
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  Speaker 4: in theaters?
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  Speaker 3: Murder, death, kill shit?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You saw it in the theater? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: 96?
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  Speaker 1: You was a baby then.
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  Speaker 3: I was 20.
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  Speaker 1: You was a baby back then.
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  Speaker 3: I was a moviegoer.
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  Speaker 1: OK.
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  Speaker 3: Loved it. Loved it. And because, I mean, Richard Gere
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  Speaker 3: was him. And then, like you said, it has the
• 8:00
  Speaker 3: all-star cast.
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  Speaker 2: Really good cast.
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  Speaker 3: Just the premise of the movie itself was so dope.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like a Catholic priest gets mauled to death.
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  Speaker 3: And nobody knows what did it and who did it.
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  Speaker 3: And then introducing Edward Norton. And it just, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it was right up my alley. You know what's so interesting?
• 8:16
  Speaker 4: I had heard of Primal Fear, never seen a trailer,
• 8:18
  Speaker 4: never seen nothing. didn't know what it was about, pressed
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  Speaker 4: play with the Patreon blind. And I said, oh, now
• 8:27
  Speaker 4: because of Catholicism, what's happened? I'm like, well, he did something.
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  Speaker 1: On the top.
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  Speaker 2: He was up to no good. But at that time,
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't as prevalent. In 96, that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, awareness of it wasn't.
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: Well, you know they was doing.
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  Speaker 1: It was definitely prevalent, but it just wasn't in the news. Awareness, right,
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: for sure.
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  Speaker 3: So back in 1996, loved the movie. I've seen it
• 8:47
  Speaker 3: over the course of the last 30-something years. 30 years, like,
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  Speaker 3: multiple times, but I hadn't seen it maybe in about
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: 10 years when I saw it on TV.
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  Speaker 2: How much did you remember of it?
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  Speaker 3: I remembered, like, 98% of it.
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, dang. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good time. Hell yeah.
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  Speaker 3: 98% of it. It was just such a really good movie,
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  Speaker 3: and it's just so right up my alley. And so
• 9:13
  Speaker 3: when it gets to the end, I hit Tony, and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, yo.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: The next episode we should do, inviting myself back to
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: the show.
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  Speaker 2: We already said you talk about movies. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: But I was just like, what if we focus on movies,
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  Speaker 3: almost like a kind of Catch-22, where the protagonist is
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: faced with a decision that rocks their entire sense of
• 9:37
  Speaker 3: their identity. You know what I mean? I was like,
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: we could think of a bunch of, like a list
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  Speaker 3: of movies like this. And so he was like, oh, yeah,
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: I like that. And so then we, you know... Pass
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: it on to you.
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: I never seen Prime and Fierce. That was perfect. I
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: like the fact that he had never seen it. No,
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  Speaker 1: I loved it.
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  Speaker 3: I loved it because now we got brand new perspective.
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: He coming in fresh. Yeah, he's coming in fresh.
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  Speaker 5: I haven't seen Prime and Fierce since it was first
• 10:01
  Speaker 5: on video. Because when it was in theaters, I just
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  Speaker 5: didn't care. Yeah, when it came out, I was just like,
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  Speaker 5: Richard Gere, Edward Norton was a nobody to me at
• 10:09
  Speaker 5: that time, so he's not going to reel me in.
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: How much earlier was this than American History X?
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, like maybe eight years? A few years.
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, is that long?
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: Not eight years.
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: No, I feel like American History X came out in.
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  Speaker 5: The early 2000s. It was like 99, 2000. This is 96,
• 10:23
  Speaker 5: so about four years.
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: Melissa Ford be jumping in loud. She be adding in
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: some extra.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? American History X was 1998.
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: It was two years. All right, fine.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: She just be saying stuff.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: American History X came out in 2017.
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: And you know who else is in it? James Earl Jones.
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: James Earl Jones is in American History X.
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  Speaker 2: I saw it live on Broadway.
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  Speaker 1: It did not happen. Look it up. Josh, no.
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: I'll look it up. No? All right, sorry, y'all. OK, fine.
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: It was like two years later. I didn't, here's the
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: thing is, I did not realize that his star catapulted
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  Speaker 3: that fast.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 3: That's number one. And number two, he looked drastically different
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: from Primal Fear to American.
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: Is He Next. He looked really young in Primal Fear.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: He was a baby face in that.
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  Speaker 2: He might have been nine. No, he was 27?
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think I looked it up when we were watching it.
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  Speaker 1: He was 27 when that came out?
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you.
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  Speaker 4: Because he was supposed to be 19. Primal Fear came
• 11:17
  Speaker 4: out in 19.
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  Speaker 1: You look like a newborn, man.
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  Speaker 4: He looked like a 17-year-old child. He was born in 1969,
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  Speaker 4: and Primal Fear came out in 96.
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  Speaker 2: 27. That's crazy. He looked 19. He did. Everything about Aaron.
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  Speaker 2: I fully believe.
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  Speaker 4: That Edward Norton was young, sheepish, you know, the hair
• 11:38
  Speaker 4: kind of everywhere. When I tell y'all, when I didn't know,
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: watching this movie, not knowing what was coming, when he
• 11:44
  Speaker 4: first looked.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: Up, I was like.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: Wait, hold on.
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: We have to preface this with spoiler alert.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. If you don't know by now... 1996. Spoilers.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: Spoilers, y'all.
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: How about before this episode comes out, y'all say, this
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: is the movie that we're going to be discussing. So
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: if you haven't seen it, watch it so you can
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: participate in the conversation.
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  Speaker 5: We do.
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  Speaker 2: I watched it on my Patreon.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: We did it. Yeah, they watched it.
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, OK.
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, OK. Now we do this, man.
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: Listen for it coming.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: Words, wrong dates, and ideas.
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  Speaker 3: I say it with conviction.
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: You know what you should do? Tell the people in
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: advance what y'all watching. Man, watch out, man. Okay, all right,
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: my bad, my bad. Carry on.
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: Sorry, sir.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: Well, go ahead, go ahead.
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: No, you were saying, like, I want to know what
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: that felt like watching that moment because it was very
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: much a, like, no.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: Fucking way kind of moment.
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: I paused it.
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: First, I thought this was going to be a court case,
• 12:37
  Speaker 4: court case, right? Just based on Richard Gere's attorney, I
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: figured it was going to be a court case, but
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know what it's going to be about.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: No trailer. So when they cut the guy's fingers off,
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: Like, hold up, hold up.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: What?
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: What movie am I watching? Smooth, smooth cut off. Stab, stab, stab.
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: If Edward Norton didn't even know he was in the movie,
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: because he's not in the Primal Fear when I went
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: to watch YouTube.
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't even. That's just a picture of Richard Gere.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: Just a picture of Richard Gere.
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: So I was like, oh.
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: And I was like, I didn't know Edward Norton was
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: in this movie. And then I was like, oh, he's
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: in it for real. So he's running bloody. So I'm like, oh,
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: we kicking it off. This movie is off to the races.
• 13:10
  Speaker 4: And then I'm like, OK, so I'm thinking there's another guy.
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: I'm buying Richard Gere's whole thing. Because I'm like, there's
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: no way this dude killed that man. It just doesn't
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: seem it. So what's the angle? Who did it? I'm
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: thinking the roommate. Because roommate keeps running every time.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's running hard. He was like.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: He ran through the whole city of Chicago.
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: If anybody's ever watched Chicago PD, that was Antonio.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: John Cena. Yeah.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: John Cena.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: From I Like It Like That.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: That's my little obscure movie.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: He's also Selena's husband in Selena. Yeah, he is.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: I saw Selena.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: I was in it. You did not. Tony ain't seen Selena,
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: Melissa Ford.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: Really? He was also in Bad Boys 2, which I saw.
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: He was in either Pacific or Band of Brothers. One
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: of my favorite HBO movies. Might have been specific.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: He's got a good resume.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great actor.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: But when he's running, I'm like, oh, this dude. He
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: did it.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: He did it.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He actually looks like a person who could stab.
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Like, he goes to the
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: homeless area. I'm like, oh, that dude did it. But like, how, why, when, what's,
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: and then you see the sex tape. And I'm like, oh, sure.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: Which I didn't see that coming either. I said, hey.
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: We all were like, uh, cheeks and tits. Shirt on.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: Take them in your mouth.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: Man. I was like, bro. It was.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: Go.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: You wild as hell.
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: But when Roy first appears, I said, hold on. Now
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: I signed up for a totally different movie. And I like,
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: it reminded me immediately of Split. It reminded me of Fallen.
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: Anytime somebody's like, possessed, split personality. And also, Edward Norton
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: has played that role before. He's not split, but in
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: American History X, I've seen that version.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Of Edward Norton. That angry, evil, violent person.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, now this is probably why they gave
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: you American History X. Because of how you portrayed Roy.
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, oh, this is good. And then the
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: cat and mouse with Laura Linney and.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Richard Gere, she was formidable. Lord Lenny.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Man, she bring it every time.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: She is a beast.
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: Every time she show up, we're like, oh, we cooking now.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: I already know she's going to bring it.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Truman Show.
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: Ozark.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: She's in Lanterns right now.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Mystic River.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Mystic River.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Is that my daughter in there?
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: And then this, like. Oh, no.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Life of David Gale.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: With Kevin Spacey.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Have you seen it?
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, though. You know what's funny?
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, that's another one.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: That is another fucking Catch-22 kind of little situation.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. Melissa Ford brings her movies from the library.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: She's like, they don't have this. I thought they hated it.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: So you and Blockbuster are like, no, Melissa, we don't
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: have that. Go to the local life. We don't have
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Three Chickens Feet from West Chicago.
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: That's the movie they was like, yo, watch this next
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: on YouTube. When I watched Primal Fear, the life of
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: David Gill was just like, Oh, really?
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: That's funny that you brought that up, unless they chose
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: you as well.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: No, I watched The Life of David Gale back in, what,
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: 1996 when it came out, whatever year it was. It
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: was a long-ass time ago. But it is a really, really,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: really good movie. Because I was a huge Kevin Spacey fan,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: like most people were.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was good.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: So for the most part, I'm thinking, yo, Laura Linney,
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: she's beating Richard Gere.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: Like, he's supposed to be the attorney who's winning. But
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: once the tape came in and she played him, I said, aw.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: She was... Boy, when I tell you he thought he
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: had her, she said, man, watch out.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: What you think? I'm going to use this tape?
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: I was like, dang.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: And the way she worked it, I was like, he's done.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know what he's going to do.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: He was cracking under the pressure because she was cooking him.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: That's why he was cussing out his team.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he pushed Andre Bauer. Do your fucking job. And
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: the mom from Liar Liar. Pressure was on, yeah. Yeah.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: News radio as well.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, dang. I don't know how he's going
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: to do that. So once that happened, I was like, yo,
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: this is really good. And it's also a really well-casted movie.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the cast is crazy.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: They put some people up in that movie. But yeah,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: it was super... Because I was tired. I came back
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: from the road. I was like, man, I got to
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: watch this movie. Melissa Ford.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She coming in with a movie I ain't never seen.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I missed this movie completely. Yeah. But I was 13
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: when this came out. You're 96, man.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Different time.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I couldn't go to see Primal Fear.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: I really like to watch movies that can stand the
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: test of time. Like we talked about last one, last episode, Seven.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Seven is a movie that you are- It's timeless. You
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: don't notice the things that age the movie. It just
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: goes right over your head.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: That could have came out yesterday and still hit.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: They don't even need to remake Seven because of how well.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: It got them. Nobody ever try, ever.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Don't time it. Leave it the fuck alone. I will protest.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I will protest, boycott, I'll do.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: All the things.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I will come back from the grave. For what?
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: No.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: There's no point. I will come back from the grave.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, well.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Mahershala Ali is Morgan Freeman. Make something else with him.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, make something else with Mahershala Ali.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: That's all you got to do.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Mahershala Ali.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I'd come back from the grave if I pass away.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, he's so cute.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I love Mahershala, you know what I'm saying? I do too.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, so what do you think draws you back to
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Primal Fear?
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Primal Fear, so first of all, so we discussed the
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: idea of making a list of movies that feature like
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: a catch-22. What's the catch-22? Okay, so here's the thing.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: It's not a typical catch-22. So the catch-22 is oftentimes
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: the protagonist has to make like a choice. It's the
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: proverbial rock, you know, in a hard place kind of choice.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: And usually it's horrific. Like Sophie's choice is, If you know,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: you know, we're not discussing that fucking here. But that
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: is a stereotypical Catch-22 film. What a lot of the
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: films I think we're going to discuss here is it's
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: an aftermath.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: That happens. So what happens is usually the character has
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: shown you who they are. You fully understand their identity,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: their sense of self, what they're convicted to. And then
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: towards the end is the choice that is completely at
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: odds with the very fiber of their being. And in
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: this way, he was a prosecutor. He said, fuck that shit.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I want more money. I'm going to criminal fucking defense.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Knowing that the majority of his clients are guilty as fuck,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: but it's a game to him.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It's a game, man.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Because he's like, let me see how good.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I am to get you off. You know what I'm saying?
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: And so he's getting off the worst of the worst
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: of the worst, and then here comes this angelic kid,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: and he is just like, think I actually have an
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: innocent client for once. Oh my God. No, we got
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: to do this.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: More obligation McGee now.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: This is going to be the ultimate test of my abilities.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Nobody can say shit to me. And you don't even
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: have no bread.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: And his team was like, yo, this kid is guilty.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: Andre Brown from the jump was like, that's a bullshit story.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Nah, man.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Nah, y'all.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Andre Brown didn't buy it at all.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Andre read that second one. He's like, what you saying?
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: He was trying to hush him up. Nah, hush up.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: He was like, I didn't see that, exactly.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Exactly, so we go through the entire film And we
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: believe it, too.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: And then it gets to the end where he's just like, oh,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I did good. I feel good. I got the right thing.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: He's proud of himself. He's so proud of himself.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I thought the movie was.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Over, y'all. And I thought it was good.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: He was proud of himself. He was like, man.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: And then he was like, ask, what was her name?
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Venable.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Sorry about her name.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Venable.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Ask Miss Venable how her neck is. And he backs up.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: He was like.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I paused the movie. I said, hold up. You just
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: told us.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: You blacked out. It was big black. I thought you
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: never remembered your blackout.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: What is this? He did this?
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: But let me tell you what the most brilliant part
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: of Edward's performance was at that.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Moment, is the fact that he spoke Roy's words in
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Aaron's voice, delicate.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Soft voice.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I said, oh.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: That's a fucking choice.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: That was a brilliant choice.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, it was.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: And that's what got him the nomination.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: That, the whole performance, but just like that little tiny nuance.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: A little touch, a little seasoning on it. And you
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: know what else I like too? It was like, okay,
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: the twist is he has this, dissociative other personality. So
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: now we know, okay, he did do it. It wasn't
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: a third person, technically. It was just, so now this
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: poor kid is suffering from... So that was the twist.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: So we thought that was the twist. So we were like, oh,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: you gotta say the innocent one. And then when.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: He was just like... That was all bullshit, man. Aaron
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: is the one I created.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: That's the part when I was like, you mother fucker.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: And then when he said, I had to kill Linda.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Just casually.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: That bitch.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Casually. Linda gone.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: I was wondering, why is he freaking out about Linda
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: every time?
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Poor Linda, man.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Linda didn't do nothing wrong. So the choice that Richard
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: Gere is left with.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Is If I... If I basically... The client... Client-lawyer confidentiality.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Right. Exactly.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: If I go against that, not only am I disbarred,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I actually face, you know, face jail time.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Okay? And also, I reveal... just, I reveal a weakness within,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: you know? I reveal that I lost, you know?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: He's done on so many levels.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: He got played.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: He got played. He got super played.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: He got played like Nintendo 64.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, Linda, he caused Laura Linney's job.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, fuck that shit up as well.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Laurel and his shit got fucked up.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: And he should have smashed her a little bit in
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: the chambers. Y'all was all, the sexual tension was crazy.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I like the sexual tension.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: She kept telling him, absolutely not. We've been down that road.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Fuck off.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I like it. We had a six-month, one-night stand.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I love that. I love that line. I love that.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: That's what we be doing out here.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: And he paid the 10K contempt of court. Yes.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: He tried to get that off, and Alfie was like, no.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Alfie Woodard was like. The contempt is still there. I'm
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: going home.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Alfie Woodard was drinking straight whiskey at work. She was.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: She was off the clock.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Brown.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: She was like, y'all want some drinks? I know you
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: need a drink. You just got assaulted.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Big auntie wood. For sure. She had black women.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: That wig went triple platinum in the black community.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I know six of my aunties who got that wig.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Alfie would have had that movie right now.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: I just wanted them to put a little baby powder
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: in it. Just to take down the shine.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: This thing was like.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, it was shining for sure. It was big shine.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Shiny. It wasn't going nowhere. It was so shiny.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: It was glistening in the courtroom.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: So OK, so at the end of this movie, You
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: see him standing there and he's just, he's completely perplexed.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: You know, the bottom is like basically like fell out
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: from underneath of him. And it's up to the audience
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: to determine what does he do now? You know, what
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: does he do now? What's the choice does he make?
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Does he send an anonymous note saying the motherfucker's guilty?
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: But it's just like he can't be retried again.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: No.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Double jeopardy.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Right. Exactly.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Bitch trial, you're done. Alfred Woodard was like, I'm going
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: to bingo. It's over with.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: Hey, he damn sure going to play whatever facility he's
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: going to for 30 days.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, come on, man.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: He about to play the shit out of them.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: He played Francis McDormand from the... And the best part is,
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: to your point, Richard Tiffany.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Gere, which I did not realize that was his middle name.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: That's his middle name?
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Richard Gere's middle name is Tiffany.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Big Tiff.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Patron was like, well, Tiffany's killing this. I was like,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: who is Tiffany? They're like, that's Richard Gere.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. I looked it up. I said, Tiff. His
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: middle name is Tiffany.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: His middle name is Tiffany?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Richard Tiffany Gere is that man's full name. No joke.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: His mom's maiden name was Tiffany. They moved that to
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: his middle name. I never heard Tiffany as a last name.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: That's why he always got the softness to him that
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: the ladies like.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: That's that Tiffany in there.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: That feminine energy in the middle.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Maybe that was it.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Double Jeffrey would be good too. That's a
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: good suggestion.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, that movie. I remember that movie.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ashley Judd, right?
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Ashley Judd.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: I feel like if this movie were to continue, Richard
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Gere would be messed up. Because his whole confidence and
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: bravado was about being the smartest man in the room.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: He really got outwitted by Laura Linney.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: He just got lucky. Or he played her. He played
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: her arrogance against herself, too. Because she went hard.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: She did go hard. I knew you was going to
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: do that. So, yeah, I did.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: But then they all was getting played by Roy because
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: he was waiting. He's like, I knew what you'd do
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: with your little mic thing, man. That was a nice touch.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: And I know Richard Gere was probably like.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Wait, I thought I did.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Man, watch out.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: But I did say, when I watched this movie, when
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I started, I said, there's something Kaiser Soze about this movie.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know what it was. I still didn't know.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: When it happened, I said, well, dang, Kev, I forgot
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: I said that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: But it happened so late in the movie.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Like, remember Kaiser Sozin? That final walk-off is like the
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: end of the movie. Usually those reveals come a little earlier.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Roy was like, I did this on purpose. I'm telling
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: you just because it's fun.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Because he could have let him leave. He could have
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: let him just rock out.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: He just was like, no, I want you to know. Yeah.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: That I played you from the beginning.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: I'm glad they addressed that, too, because I'll always be
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: pissed off there. Why you got to reveal everything?
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the villain. The villain revealed, just.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: Like, that was my plan all along. Why are you
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: telling me you'll play? Just kill the hero.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Nah, the plan.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Because a narcissist has to let you know how they
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: beat you.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: For sure. Oh, you didn't know?
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: And it was two narcissists up against each other.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: And so that's another part of it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Three, if you include Laura Linney's character.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Well, no, because she doesn't. Maybe he tells her. Maybe
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: he doesn't. He probably keeps it to himself for the
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: rest of his life. And it fucking changes him.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: She's just a good attorney.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: She took that case, though, because Richard was representing him.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: For sure. She wanted to beat him.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: She did. And she lost. She did.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: I think it's possible that he does end up telling her,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: not right away, but maybe in a couple of years,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: in a drunken moment. I don't know, maybe something they revisit.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Oh, he getting the Lenny's cheeks. He's getting
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: that Venable. For sure.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: They gonna reconnect.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: But he tells her as a way to, as a
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: show of love to her, actually, in a really strange way.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: But her knowing the truth that, A, she was on
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: the right side of history in this particular situation, B,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: that she had him figured out. She did have him
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: figured out.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: She had him dead to rights multiple times. He was
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: in there like, I felt his stress. He was like,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: I'm cooked.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I'm cooked. If it wasn't for Francis McDormand and that.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Videotape thing, or Roy doing his thing, he was cooked.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: He knew, he was like, I lost. And I'm done.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: So you walk away, like thinking, how does this change
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Richard Gere forever? Because his whole concept of his identity
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: has been rocked. You know, so that's why.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Your gut is wrong. Yeah.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Because you thought your gut was right. And you was right,
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: but you was wrong. Because it was somebody else, but
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: it wasn't somebody else.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: And are you guilty?
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Like, if Roy wasn't evil, is that really murder if
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: your other personality kills somebody?
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: And then the judge is like, uh-uh, ain't no insanity plea.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: You can't even go that route. Can't even go that route.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Can't even go that route.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: And then you skirt the route.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: And you did it anyway, basically. Yep.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: And then here we are.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: And I also like the little subplot in a way
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: of the Shaughnessy situation.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: I like the little real estate issues and buying up
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: all the properties and being shady, him getting a dude
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: from Scarface whacked.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Got him killed.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: He said that too.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: Because I was interested in those characters as well, even
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: though they weren't a big piece.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: It was just like when they were walking through the
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: neighborhood and he was telling, he was with the alderman
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: that they tried.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: They tried to set me up against this alderman right here.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: He legit. and then you like, ah.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: And even though they were small characters, they completed those stories.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Like they didn't just forget about them, don't waste those stories.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: They figured, they finished Shaughnessy, they figured Scarface dude, like,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: everybody got.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: And then it ties back into Richard Gere, knowing Shaughnessy
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: was dirty because he used to work with them cats.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: Remember in the bar when he was revealing to that dude,
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: he was just like, I did some shady shit, you
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying?
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: And then he was able to, he's like, don't fuck
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: with me. And then he's like, I'm gonna indeed fuck
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: with you.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: He did. Frazier's dad was legit. Yeah.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: He was scary.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: I'd never seen him outside of Frazier's show. So I
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: was like, yo, this is like, you're a good actor.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Because you are very believable as this corrupt person on
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: the stand. You was balling him up. I had to
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: look that up. I was like, was that sex? I'd
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: never heard that terminology. He was over there balling him up.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, OK.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: But no, that movie was legit, really, really good.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: A little sleeper joint, man.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Sleeper joint. Yeah.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, so the second movie that has a very similar
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: situation where the protagonist basically identifies them. You get a
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: feel for what their identity is, what they believe, what
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: their conviction is, right?
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: And they're presented with a choice that is a complete
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: affront to their convictions, to their faith, and to their identity.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: But it's still a choice that needs to be made.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: It's rock and a hard place. And that movie is
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Million Dollar Baby.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Man, you're talking about a freaking amazing movie.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: OK, so I went to the theater and saw that.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: As well. Okay.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: And this is one thing that I really loved about
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: not just this movie, but the moviegoer that went.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: There is that moment if, God, I hope you've seen
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Million Dollar Baby, okay? Your book, okay. I see.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: That's the one about the bank robberies and they had children.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Shut up.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, the part where she's in the boxing ring and
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: she is beating the shit out of the dirty player.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: And then she, what's that when you call it? What's
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: the word? Sucker punch. There we go. She sucker punched her.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: And then she flips around and she breaks her neck
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: on the stool. Oh, my God. That was the best
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: kept secret amongst moviegoers. Nobody knew. There was no spoiler alert.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I had no clue that was about to happen.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: So I was in a theater that had like 300
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: people in it. Big ass theater in New York City.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: And when that moment happened, there was an audible gasp
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: in the theater. Everybody was like... Oh, my God.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that from that moment on. She tried
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: to pull the stool out of him.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: When her head hit the stool, I was like... Oh, man, dog.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I was just like, whoa.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: I didn't know we were going here with this.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Story like that. I thought I was watching a different movie.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: And so Clint Eastwood, he's faith-based. You know he's got
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: his certain convictions. You identify with him as he is.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: And then....
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: She asks him, I need you to end my life.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: And suicide is a sin to Catholics and Christians. So
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: he literally is like, I can't do that. But he
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: sees that she was such a beacon of light. She
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: was literally like an angel on earth. And to keep
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: her here trapped in this body, you know, that can't
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: move after she has seen the world and she had
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: people screaming her name. You can't let this beautiful creature
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: just languish here for the rest of her life. I mean,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: That was a great word.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Language is good. I knew that one.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Now with two syllables, I'm with you. I was in
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: on that one.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Language only, yeah.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: And then when he decides that he's going to do it,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: he just, he's wringing his hands and there's nobody that
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: can help him with this decision. No one. He has
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: to make this on his own. It's an affront to
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: his convictions. He has to make this decision on his own.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: And when he goes to her bedside, oh my God,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I could just start crying right now.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Hold it together. Hold it together.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Give me some Kleenex.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Hold it together, though. You know what I'm saying? Give
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: me some Kleenex. Hold it together, man. You know what
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? I'm sorry.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Tony just asked you to hold it together. Hold it together, man.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: He leans in. What does he say?
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: He says, Makushla means my darling, my love.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Or something like that.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I was like, just fucking rip my fucking cornea.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: That's why I can't watch Million Dollar Baby.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. One and done, man.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: One and done. I said, oh, you're done, Clint Eastwood.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Every swing, you deserve the Oscar.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Back to back.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I'm out. Was it Boys Don't Cry?
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Boys Don't Cry. I don't think it was Back to Back.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: No, it wasn't Back to Back, but she got two.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it was Back to Back. It was
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: like maybe three, four years. Back to Back again. Boyz
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: II Men was like 2000. No concept of time. No,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: absolutely not. It's all one year. It's all one year
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: or it's 20.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Blending in together.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know how.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Old I am right now. This shit's wild. But now
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: it's out.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: It was so well done.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: It pulls your heart throws it on the ground, smashes
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: your heart with a sledgehammer.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: It really does.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: You feel for Clint Eastwood. You feel for her. And
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: you're just like, man, she didn't deserve that.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: No. And you even.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Like, you put yourself in his shoes. If you don't
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: believe with it, you feel like, if I love you,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: I got to do this.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Because my conviction, that's a great Sophie's Choice. My convictions
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: and my circumstance.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's life. Sometimes your conviction is only your
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: conviction because it's untested. And once you actually have to.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: Test it, you be like- It's the ultimate test.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: It's the ultimate test. Who are you?
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: And that's, look, I don't want to get into this
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: too much, but it's how I grew up in the church,
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: how you're taught about gay people and those thought processes.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: I'm going to say it. But then you start interacting
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: with people and you realize, oh no, this stuff is
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: destroying these people. I can't in good conscience.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Be a part of this. These people's lives are being ruined.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I refuse to be a part of this.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know nobody or maybe you do and
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: it doesn't bother you, but it bothers me. And I
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: think that's what Clint Eastwood was like. I can't let
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: my faith stop me from My sense of humanity. My
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: sense of humanity.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, trust me.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about. I watch this movie. I
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: like to have my heart ripped out and stomped on.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: You said that the first time.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, if you look.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: At my dating life, I mean, you definitely understand that
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: that is a fact.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Quick question, unrelated.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Shit, open the door.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. Would the Dajon Love scammer.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Who the fuck are you bitches that fell for that shit?
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Am I missing something? I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: to the victims. I'm so sorry. That was a very
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: visceral reaction because I am confusion. I am confusion! $ 1.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: 3 million, $ 1, 000 to $ 3, 000 at a time.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: What are we talking about here? The scam was in
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: two years.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: There are women out here that are giving up the money.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: To these dudes.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Otherwise, he wouldn't be in jail if it didn't work.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: They are really out here looking to give money.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Wait, hold on one second.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I need to catch up one second. Just indulge us.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Why is he in jail?
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: He frauded.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: So I think the charge is probably wire fraud or
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: some sort of fraud. But he was defrauding these women
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: out of their investments and convincing them that he was
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: going to invest their money.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, OK. OK.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: OK. OK.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: He said he was going to.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: It wasn't just regular tricking like, you know, he was like, OK.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: He was a Dirty John.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Dirty John. Dirty John. Dirty John.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: And I just don't get it. I don't get it.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. They say he's not even cute in the
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: chess world.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: He's not even cute. That's what somebody said. He had
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: the football stuff on. He had the football helmet on.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, that video of him running up and
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: down on the beach with the fucking football helmet.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: That's so ridiculous.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: What NFL players doing that shit in real life?
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: You ain't never seen that. First of all. With the helmet.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: They do work out on the beach.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: They do work out on the beach all the time,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: not with the helmet on.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: First of all, they want to keep their helmets off.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Because they want to be seen. And why don't you
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: be able to recognize them? Basketball players get all the
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: shine because we see them.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: You can see their face all the time.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: You can see their face all fucking day. So that
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: was the.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Least athletic thing I've ever seen in my life. As
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: a non, I'm not a truly athletic person, but come on.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: That man drew a play on a football.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: You ain't never seen nobody.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: You know who ready for the NFL and who not,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: just by the run.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: But wait, was he playing by himself, like with himself?
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: On the beach.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I didn't see anybody else. He had his homeboy throwing
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: the pass at him. Oh my God.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: It's trainer.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: It's trainer.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: We're off track, Melissa Ford.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: We only have 20 minutes left. We need to get
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: to the list. Oh, shit. Got it.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Well, let me just say this as just, you know,
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: a goodbye kind of statement. I am not fucking somebody
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: and then trusting them to invest money. We are keeping
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: that shit separate.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Are you fucking crazy?
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: That is wild.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: If my stock fucking tanks, I'm taking it the fuck
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: out on you.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Could you imagine... You climax, you roll.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Over, man.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: That was great.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: And then I find out I lost 100 grand because
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: of your fucking suggestion.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: Are you crazy?
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: I hate you forever.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: That was great.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: You ever think about investing? What kind of post-sex conversation
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: is that?
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: No, that was great.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: You ever think about investing in.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Crypto?
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, NFTs. While y'all rinsing off. So Navidian style.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: How much you willing to pay?
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: How often do you play the snaps, Melissa Ford?
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: No.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Where are we at?
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Going back.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Million Dollar Baby. Feel good about that?
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: I feel really. Okay. Million Dollar Baby.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Also.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Great pick.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Also, as I was watching the movie, I was like.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I didn't even think about Clint Eastwood as one of
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: my fucking favorite directors because this nigga's crazy.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Like, no.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I got to talk to you guys.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: He is a good director.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I got to tell you about a moment, OK? So
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: I went to go see Flags of Our Fathers.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: OK.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: You'll be at the film.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: In the theater, right? I remember that one. And so
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: I watched the theater. It was a wonderful movie directed
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: by Clint.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: OK, great.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: It was cool. OK, hold on. Months later, I'm back
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: in the theater.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: And I'm watching Letters to Iwo Jima.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Critics like that one better.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: So I'm watching the movie, and there's this one scene
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: in the movie. It's this big mountain or some shit
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: like that. And I was like, I've seen this fucking
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: mountain before. What the fuck is going on? That's the
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: moment I realized that it was the same story, reverse angle.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: The Japanese in Letters to Iwo Jima, and then the
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: American and British soldiers in Flags. And I said, has
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: any other director ever done that before? I don't know.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: It was an ambitious move that he did.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Sorry. It was ambitious as hell.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I'm all over the place.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: No, you're not.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: The Patreon is funny today. They said, what's up with
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: them stocks tonight? Somebody said he had his legs were
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: a step above wheelchair legs.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: That was well noted. Thank you.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Well noted. Clint Eastwood did do that. That was hella ambitious.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: That was brilliant.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: He's still alive. He's like 96.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's up there. I think he officially retired recently.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: He's surviving off of pure racism now.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He retired recently. Oh, did he?
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Once he announced his retirement, I was like, I don't
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: think he has long.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: I think I Googled it. Is Clint Eastwood racist?
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had some stuff. The invisible chair.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: He's got some ideologies that's like, nah, bro.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Big white. And old white.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: Old white, you know what I'm saying? But I still
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: like him as a director, though.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Gran Torino.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Gran Torino, Mystic River.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Mystic River.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: It goes way back.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: All right, how many more you got, Melissa, for us?
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, so next one. This is a pretty, you know,
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: typical Catch-22. Well, not typical in the story, but as
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: it's defined. Requiem for a Dream.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Holy shit!
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I don't like the word Requiem.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I don't like drugs. When I saw Requiem, I was like, nah, yo.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I don't like drug movies.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Can understand that. I understand that. I'm not a fan either.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: It's an overdose, right? So it's four different characters whose
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: storylines overlap with each other.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: So crash for drugs.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they all have a different form of addiction.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: And so basically, the cast 22. Yeah, Marlon Wayans was
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: in it.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Isn't Jake Gyllenhaal?
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Jared Leto.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Jared Leto.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: There we go.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: What's her name? Jennifer Connelly. Jennifer Connelly.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: What's her older actress?
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Ellen Burstyn.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Ellen Burstyn.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: She got nominated for that.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: And so basically the Catch-22 is like, addiction is a
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Catch-22 in itself.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: So, okay.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: You guys have not seen that one before.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for it.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: No Country for Old Men.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Yes. Now we talking about a movie. Now we back
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: in your pocket.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Now you talking about a.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Movie, man.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: No Country for Old Men. I done seen that movie
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: several times. Yeah, is an amazing movie. Javier Bardem is headbanging.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: That scene in the gas station when he's pissed off
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: with the point flip.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: That poor man, though.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: He didn't know why he was in trouble. He was like,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: it was my wife's.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know why.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: He was just making small talk. His life was on
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: the line just like that. He was just like, I
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: don't know what I'm betting for.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: He was like, what business is this of yours? You
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: live out back and that's their house out back?
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Let me get my fucking coin out the way.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: He's like, what time do you close? I'm like, what's happening?
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: What did I do?
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: I would hate to run across him because I would
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: get killed.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Because I'd be like, who the fuck do you think
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: you're talking to, bro? I'm mouthing off.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: He's doing the kind of thing on you easy.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like the lady that worked at the hotel.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: Well, he went in there and tried to get the
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: number for me. She's like, no, did you not hear me?
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I said I got no information. And they had that
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: look off like, bitch. And she was like, nigga. She
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: had no clue who he was, but you know what?
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: She wasn't going for it. No.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: That movie is so freaking good. He's good in Cape Fear.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I got to watch that.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: He's basically like that character with much more charisma.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Because he was like sociopath level.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: I actually watched a YouTube video where a psychologist was like,
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: this is what a sociopath looks like.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Cold calculated, that's a good depiction.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: You know what's funny about him in that role? He
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: still has some... He had a little bit of personality
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: that I found in there.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, you have to have personality to choose that
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: fucking haircut.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Well, not only that. The haircut was crazy. But it
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: was the 70s. El Paso, by the way. El Paso.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: El Paso.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Nobody else had a fucking bowl cut.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: No, the Beatles. The Beatles made that popular.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: This didn't take place in the 70s.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: You know you don't know no years and no ages now.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: You're right. I'm going to shut the fuck up on
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: that one. When was the Beatles popular?
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: 50s or 60s? 60s and 70s.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, it was 70s too?
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: They was reigning supreme.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: The Beatle, the mania was 60s though, right? When they
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: first came to America? That's when they first came out.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: That was the mania.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: That was the peak?
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: That was the mania.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: That was the peak of Beatle mania, but not the
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: peak of their popularity.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: They did a lot in the short span.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they did.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: But when he, when the dude, they flipped the coin.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: And he was like, no, put that in your pocket.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: You don't know how, the way he looked at that
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: man like that. I was just like, yo, he got personality.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: That's crazy.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: And when he was killing them people, man, he did
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: not care. It was like smacking a fly. And it
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: also was a very violent but efficient way to kill people.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, for sure.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: So you're just like, that's even worse than a gun somehow.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: To this day, I still don't know what the hell
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: that is.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: It's a cattle. It's how you kill cows. So they
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: don't know it's coming.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: And now I'm a vegan.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: So if they get scared, it ruins their meat. So
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: you kill them and they just don't know. Yeah. Oh, God.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you what.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: I did not know that.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: America. Things shouldn't be as efficient as we make them.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: It is inhumane. I just, when I want to eat meat,
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: I just try not to think about it. Because when
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: you think about it, you be like, all right, y'all,
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: come on, man. There's got to be a better way.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: It got to a point where I couldn't stop thinking
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: no more.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: You see, man, I... Here I am. I'm going to
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Chick-fil-A right after this, so, man, what's the next movie?
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: I feel like there's plasticine in the chicken.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: No, no, I don't know what plasticine is.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: I know what Honey Barbecue is, though. That's what I know,
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: Chick-fil-A sauce.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Polynesian.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, the next one is The Dark Knight.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Yes. Now you're cooking with grace.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: You're cooking now, man. Melissa Ford, ladies and gentlemen. We
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: never doubted.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: You, man.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Requiem for a dream.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Get out of here.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Dark Knight, you're right back here. Every time I thought
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: you were out, you pulled me right back here. You
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: be making the best picks every time.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, so there's a couple in here, obviously. There's the
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: fairy sequins. Which was just brilliant.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, fairy, fairy, fairy.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the fairies. Oh, yeah. With the civilians and the prisoners.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Somehow I thought the F-A-R-R way.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, what? Wings.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Julia Robertson.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Harry's coin is also like a proverbial kind of Catch-22
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: kind of thing. I mean, I feel like the movie
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: is just like. And just what Batman chooses to do.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: He takes the fall for everything for the obvious reasons.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: It's a really good catch-22 film.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: And the thing is, the Joker should have been right. Yeah,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: he should have been.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Based on knowledge, the prisoners tossing the bomb thing out
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: the window, if I were the Joker, I'd be like, wow,
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: that actually really is surprising. I would think they would
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: have been like, nah, we killing them. But Deebo was like, nah.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Nah.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I'm good finally in a movie. And it was great
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: because the one thing, I love this movie.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: This is top five for me. I love it because
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: Batman's strength. don't work on the Joker. He don't even
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: fight back. So he was like, you have nothing to
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: scare me with. Can you imagine beating somebody up and
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: they laughing like, yes, this is going to kill you.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: This is my whole shtick. I'll scare the shit out
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: of you.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: I don't want to kill you.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I need you. I need you, man.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: So in that way, I feel like it made his
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: decision towards the end of the movie just completely inevitable.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Because his sense of identity was rocked to its core
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: because he came upon an enemy that he just couldn't
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: fight in his conventional ways.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: And Alfred was trying to tell him early. He just
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: wasn't trying. And also, I love Morgan Freeman. He puts
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: him in that position. Because Morgan Freeman, he's like, I'm not,
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: if you doing this, if this is what it takes,
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: I'm not.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Working with you. This is my last thing.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah so I love that because Morgan Freeman if he
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: didn't destroy the computers he was like um we're done
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: yeah because what you was doing which is what the
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: flock cameras do in America right now what you're doing
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: is not right yeah even if the end goal is
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: right like how you're going about this is wrong and
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: I can't stand by it so it's just like a
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: series of That whole movie's a series of impossible choices.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: Now, the one thing that Joker did that was unfair
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: is when he tricked him with Rachel. Because he gave
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: him the impossible choice, but then when he went to
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: save Rachel, or.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: He thought he was saving Rachel.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: He was saving Harvey.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: He was saving Harvey.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: But did he really save Harvey?
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: He didn't.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: He saved Harvey's body. He didn't save his soul.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: He tried to, though. That's a good point.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: That's a great point.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: And that's another thing that led him to make the
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: decision that he finally makes at the end.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Very, very layered. Very, very layered.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Big layers. Yes.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: But I did send you something in the group chat
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: where Christopher Nolan may have been poaching.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: He did. A lot of directors do that, though. Quentin
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Tarantino was the worst.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: Quentin Tarantino will steal a Steve McQueen movie shot for shot.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: That's all he does.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: Boy, Steve McQueen, boy, the director that you are, I'm
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: going to steal this.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, the composition is the same.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: Quentin Tarantino is Big Steel Homage McGee.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Homage, stealing, what's the difference? Reservoir Dogs on up.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: He theft Johnson.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, fine.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: No, it's fine.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Is it inspiration or is it poaching? And what we're
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: talking about is the Dark Knight is basically, people say
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: it's basically heat. Frame by frame they showed so many
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: the consistencies.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Especially in the beginning.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, wild consistencies.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: One thing that's missing is that Dennis Haysburg getting fired
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: and then dying in three seconds. Me and Tony talk
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: about that any time we get a chance. Take your
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: butt to work and stay there, criminal.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Stay there and wash the dishes with that shitty-ass boss
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: and go home to your lady. You're not going to
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: be shot on the grill.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: Pick up.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Man, he quit that job and was dead.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: He was like, fuck it, man. He didn't even get
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: a block up.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Every time.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: He died immediately. Let's get the hell out of here.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: It was so quiet.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: But it was a powerful performance.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: He killed it.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Those eight minutes.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: That's why he took that. After that, he took that
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: job selling insurance. He went to Allstate.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: He went to Allstate. Are you in good hands? Because
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't a good hand.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: The next 25 years.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: That was a powerful performance.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Dennis Haysburg.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Dennis Haysburg.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: That's Usher's dad to me.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: That was a powerful performance.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: All right. We did that. Well, Dark Knight, anything more
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: you want to say?
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Okay. Nightcrawler.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: Ooh.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: This is Jake Gyllenhaal.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Jake Gyllenhaal.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: You see it?
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: God damn.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I wasn't into it, y'all. I mean, no. I made
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: a choice.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: I was just like, nah. It's a gross movie. I
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: saw it in theaters. It's gross as hell.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: I saw it in theaters. It's gross. It's icky. It
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: does not make you feel good. There's nothing redeeming about it.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: No, I know.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: But sometimes you got to watch shit like that. You
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying?
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I think you like shit like that.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: That's what you look for.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Listen, I'm a Scorpio, okay? I'm a stellium Scorpio with that.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: What's stellium?
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Stellium basically means that you have three or more of
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: your sun sign in houses.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, so you like super, super, super Scorpio. Big Scorpio.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I got Scorpio in four houses.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Wait, how many houses are there?
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Twelve, right?
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Twelve?
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: Ten.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Somebody help us.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: No, there's your moon, and then there's your rising sign.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: And then your sun sign.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: And then there's the houses.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, I don't know about that.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: And the planets.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: I'm big Taurus.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know about houses.
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: Whatever.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: And I present as a Cancer.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: You present as a Cancer?
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm big Taurus in the joint.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: But I'm a Taurus.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: What do you mean? Is it by choice you present as?
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: No, it's just what the chart says.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: I'm big Taurus because I got two Tauruses up in
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: the mix on the majors and then I present as Cancer.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: How did we get here? Was this the last movie
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: about that?
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: We were talking about Nightcrawler.
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: Oh, Nightcrawler.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Because you said you was Scorpio. Here we go.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fuck. Forget me. Okay, so Nightcrawler. Okay, so in
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: order to become successful as a, you know, he's basically
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: kind of like a TMZ camera guy, you know? In
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: order to become successful, he has to become the very
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: thing that he finds, you know, revolting. The very thing
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: that he knows is clickbaity because it is revolting. It
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: is repugnant. He knows all of this. But in order
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: to become uber successful, he actually needs to become the
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: thing that he is.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: He did that.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: And he sure did that. He was disgusting. Jake Gyllenhaal.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: He delivered in that time.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he really did. He was a slime bucket.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: He was sleazy, man.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: He got really thin for the role, too.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: He looked gone. He looked crazy. His eyes were just like.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: I did not want no part of that. Y'all are
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: doing nothing but making me feel right in my choice.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: I don't want nothing to do with it. Nah, I
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: ain't going to.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: It's not a feel-good movie.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: I was like, y'all were not like, oh, yeah, Kevin,
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: this happened. You're like, no, it's as bad as you think,
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: and you feel dirty.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: You got to take a shower after.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Renee Russo was good in that, too.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was. She was in.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: I love her. Lethal Weapon, Thomas Crown Affair.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Thomas Crown.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: She had her titties out.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: I did not remember that from the first time I
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: saw it.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: She was out here.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: I didn't remember that at all. When I re-watched that,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: I was like, huh.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: If Kev was a woman, he would do topless scenes.
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: What?
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: You'd be like Halle Berry in Swordfish. Showing up for
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: no reason, that would be you.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Can I tell you about a regret that I have?
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: What?
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: And I don't really have them, but I have one
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: tiny little regret. However, okay. Many, many moons ago, I
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: was asked by a very famous Italian director to be
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: in one of his films. I'm talking about right at
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: the height of me doing music videos and crossing over
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: into pages of magazines and.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Covers and stuff like that so my school season yeah.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: It wasn't my no an italian well oh yeah no
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: no in italy.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Like his name is big italy.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Yes exactly okay big italy and when you know i
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: was like oh shit and then they said well there's
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: gonna be nudity in it and i was like deal
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: breaker absolutely not okay yeah i didn't really understand that
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: first of all, Europeans view nudity completely different and it's
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: depicted very differently in their movies as well. And he's
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: not a porn director, people, okay? He's a visual tissue.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: But I said no because I just couldn't fathom the
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: thought of actually being nude and that sort of thing.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: I regret that shit.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: I do. Not where it keeps me up at night,
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: but I'm just like.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Did you see the project that they wanted you to
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: work on?
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: No, it was a deal breaker. Nudity, I said, I
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: don't want to know anything else.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: So you never even followed up on the project itself?
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: I did not even follow up because I was just like,
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: it's nudity. I'm not doing that.
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: I wonder if they made the project and if it.
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: if it did anything for those involved.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I will never know. I will never know.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: I would have been titties out. I just kind of
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: wish that. You'd have to give me five million. Was
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: it Swordfish?
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: It was such a big deal.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: It was so gratuitous, though. It was pointless. When I
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: saw it, I was like, well, this is just weird.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: It was so pointless.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: It was like, we just want to see if we
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: can do this. Yeah. It didn't make any sense in
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: the movie.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: It felt like, here, guys. That's what it felt like.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: And I was just like, This feels like you just
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: showing me your titties.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: And I don't mind.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't tripping, but it was just, it.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Was just like. That's where you draw the line.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Well, no, not that. It just felt like, here, y'all, look. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: Damn. And I was just like, you know what I'm saying? Because, like,
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: in Monsters Ball, you see them in there, but it
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: was like.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: It was a sex scene. Yeah. So if it's just like, titties, y'all.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Beautiful titties.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Make me feel good.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Beautiful titties.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: But I know Kev will be out here, titties, y'all.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Titties. Yeah. It's the meat that I'd have a problem with.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, now you draw the line at the bottoms up.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Titties I could do. But I don't think women, they
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: don't show coochies that much. You see probably women's titties more.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Then you probably see peen before you see.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Abso-fucking-lutely not.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: You see more peen than coochies. Where? In movies.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: I'm not watching the right fucking movies. No, I'm sorry.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Like an actual coochie itself?
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: Actual coochie?
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: You mean spread eagle coochie?
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: I've seen mad dilks in regular programming.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: What?
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Huh?
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: Just watching something recently. It was like eight dicks in
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: my face.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Wait, was it Beauty in Black? No, they had the.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Dudes lined up.
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: It was some kind of hazing situation. They had masks on,
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: and they dicks was out.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: It was Atlanta.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Atlanta?
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: It was an episode of Atlanta.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, I never see that episode. Yeah, yeah. Was it
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: the final season?
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: It was like some frat boy hazing situation. And they
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: dicks was out. Eight of them.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Huge peen in.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Any Given Sunday. The Watchmen.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: No.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: The Watchmen, man. He was walking around blue.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: With his dick out. Game of Thrones. Oh, yeah. No,
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: not House of Dragons.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: No, Game of Thrones.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Game of Thrones, for sure.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: No, it was equal parts dick and pussy.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Equal parts.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Boogie Nights dick.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, the whole movie was based around this thing.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Don't get egged.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Who?
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Nine to Seven Kingdoms had a humongous white peen.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: The movie Sideways with Paul Giamatti. This dude comes running up.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: How many people are saying pause in here? How many people.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Are saying pause?
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Ain't no pause, man. Oh, my God. The boys. The boys.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: They're going to show you some dicks. This is just huge.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: There's a guy inside of a penis. Penises are coming
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: out more and more now.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Penises are out there.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Shaft central.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: Well, you know.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: But yeah, titties I could do.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: I can't even remember the last coochie I saw. In
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: a movie? And you damn sure ain't seeing the koochie
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: roast beef.
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: You might see the bush, but you're not going to
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: see the roast beef sandwich. Do you want to, though? No,
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: but I'm just saying.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: They're not going to show you.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Even like an R-rated movie.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: They're not going to show you the roast beef sandwich.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: No, no. They gonna show you that soft penis.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They just show titties so much more.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: The ratio is crazy.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: And male butt cheeks a second.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Male butt cheeks you will see.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: In Primal Fear, male butt cheeks.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Butt cheeks.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Also with the titties.
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: Gone Girl. Gone Girl.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Primal Fear.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Gone Girl.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: Gone Girl, there was butt cheeks and a little bit
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: of peen.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, the peen was in there.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: It was just the tip.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Neil Patrick Harris, we saw his peen.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: No, Ben Affleck.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: Well, Neil, too. His ass. Didn't she kill him when
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: he was naked?
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, his ass.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Didn't he roll over and then deal?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: Nope, didn't see his deal.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Wait, what are we talking about? What movie?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: Why are we talking about? Okay, all right, where are we?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Hold on.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: Last one, but there's a four. We're going to have
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: to have you back. We got to do a photo shoot.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, last one. All right, okay, okay, okay. I have
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: three right now. So choose from the three.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: You can write them off quickly if you want to.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: When you're finished.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: A simple plan.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Yes. Bill Paxton, Billy Bob Thornton. It's a good movie, Kev.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: And it's not Nightcrawler's Dark. It's a sick shit.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: I'll watch it.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: It's amazing, though.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Seven, of course. And we all know the reasons why.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: That's a great one.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: It is a great one.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: That one, Brad Pitt wrote in his contract, you cannot
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: change the ending. Yeah. That's how much he liked it.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: And they wanted to. They tried.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Of course they did.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: Hollywood would be fucking cheered up.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: The movie ain't even the movie if it doesn't have the...
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: That's the reason we remember that movie.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: They would have lost $ 40 million at the box office
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: if they changed it to the Hollywood ending.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's horrible. That is the purest form of a
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: catch-22 because either way, honestly, Doe wins. For sure.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: He's murdered by him.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: And he completes the whole Seven Sins murder plot, whatever.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: Or he doesn't kill him, and he follows, you know,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: goes to jail and whatnot, and Mills is destroyed for
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: the rest.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Of his life.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Either way. Knowing that he did not.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Put a bullet in the head of the man.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Who decapitated his wife. He got you. I'm so sorry.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: He got you not killed.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: I would like to believe that I would have not
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: killed him.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Because once I.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: Know it's what you want, my petty is going to
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: kick in past the grief.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: I'm going, oh, you want this? Fuck you, bro.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Nah.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: And then I'm going to just shatter. Because I'm going
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: to still be shattered nonetheless. Knowing that you wanted me
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: to kill you, that was part of your plan. Let
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: me fuck up your plan. Because that's going to fuck
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: with him more. If I kill him, he's done.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: I wanted you to kill me.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: But now he resisted. Now he's going to be in
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: this jail cell. Fuck, he resisted. He's going to be
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: thinking about that. Because he's going to give a fuck
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: about killing my wife.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: I would have fell for it.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Your wife's head is in the box. Yeah.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: I feel like before I could process that.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Process and come to out of sheer rage.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Morgan Freeman told you. This is what he wants you
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: He didn't do a whole lot of listening to Morgan
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Freeman the.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Whole fucking movie. He did not.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: So he was damn sure not going to do that
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: this time.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: He for sure can't be like, the one time I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: listen is now. Yeah. When it's the hardest to listen.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: That's the only way you could get him back.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: But then John Doe's character was so wily, that mofo
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: probably would have found a way around the whole situation.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: We'll figure that out later. So if he does figure
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: his way out around the situation, I'll get you later.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: I'll get you on the back end.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Well, the last one was Manchester by the Sea.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, God. Kim hates this movie.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Melissa Ford, you were doing so good. I mean. I
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: hate that movie. I hate Casey Affleck. I hate the
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: color grade. Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. I don't know
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: if I can have you back now. I have my
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: own Sophie's Choice.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: I hate that movie. It's so freaking boring and bland.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: That's all it is.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: And boring, and it's who cares, and he gives you nothing,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: and it's big, boring, and it's such Oscar. Like, when
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: was there going to be an Oscar? And it's freaking blue,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: and Casey Affleck is just moping around.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: The fire. Man, by the time it happened, I was like, man,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm glad that you didn't.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Kev hates this movie. Kev hates this movie.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: I hate Manchester by the sea.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of rendered speechless a little bit.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: I hate Manchester by the sea.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: Well, shit, I should have just chose Michael Clayton or
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: The Insider or something.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: Oh, the Michael Clayton was pretty good.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: I like Michael Clayton. I like Michael Clayton.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: I hate Manchester by the sea, man.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, I forget I said that.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: No, you keep it.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: You keep it.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: Stand in, Melissa Ford.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: I just do not like that movie.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: It was gut-wrenching and heartbreaking.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Was it?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Was your heart broke?
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: I wasn't really heartbroken.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: I was irritated more than anything.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: And I'm a soft guy when I be watching movies.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: I think that the whole premise of it was just
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: so tragic. Like, it was just so tragic. And he
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: just turned into... a tragedy because of it. You know,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: he was never going to be able to be fixed
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: to a certain extent. So he just ends up becoming
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: the one thing that, well, that's a catch 22, becoming
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: the one thing that you adore or that you never
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: thought that you would ever become. And, you know, I mean,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: I really like Michelle Williams.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: She's great. Michelle Williams is good.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Michelle Williams is great.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: She has a great picker for roles. She has a
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: picker for a lot of movies. They count. They all count.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: She's in a lot of good movies. And she's good
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: in those movies.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: And she was so low-key.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: When you think about the Dawson's Creek cast, I feel
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: like everybody else got more shine than she did in
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: terms of notoriety. But when you look at film career
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: and choices, she's great.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, doesn't she have an academy?
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  Speaker 1: Did she win?
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: I think she did.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: I think she did win. She won for.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: I don't want to guess. I'll be wrong. Was this
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: My Week as Marilyn?
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  Speaker 1: She's definitely been nominated.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: My Week with Marilyn?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: I'm looking, yeah.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: Or was it Manchester by the Sea?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: No. I don't think she won for that.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Did she win for that?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: Accolades, three Golden Globes, two Actor Awards, Primetime Emmy Award.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: And four nominations.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, she hadn't won. Okay.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Nominations.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Either way, she cooking the Dawson's cast. Rest in peace
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: to James, of course.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. So many rest in peace. Guess what
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: I was watching last night?
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Clue.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, Tim Curry. Tim Curry. I'm a big fan
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: of Tim Curry.
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  Speaker 3: I loved him, too.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: That smile in Home Alone, me and Tony used.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: That as a tip for like three years.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: Oh, man, when I beat him in pool, he getting
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: the Tim Curry Home Alone.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: That smile, he was so vindicated. He was like, bingo.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: He was right, though. He was right from the jump.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Carol was up to no good, dog. But he just
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: couldn't prove it.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: When he finally, he was just like, his smile was
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: so big.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, almost like a caricature, but.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: It literally looked like.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: How they mashed it, because they mashed, they faded them
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: into the Grinch.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what it looked like, too.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: The Grinch's smile.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: He was also really good as the original clown, Pennywise.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: Yes. I've seen that one. Tony told me to watch the.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: All his movies.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: He's scarier to me than the new one. Yeah.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: The real Skarsgård?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. To me, he was just creepier to me.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, watch it.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: And I love the new It. He's doing his thing.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: Because all his movies are coming up right now, and
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: so are all of Dolly Parton's movies. And one of
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: my favorite movies is 9 to 5.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: Oregon 9 to 5. Rest in peace, Dolly P. I
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: love Dolly P.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: All right, y'all, that's all we have for today. Melissa
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: Ford is always welcome.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: She'll be back, y'all.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: We'll be back and.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: Watch some movies that people have seen. This is the
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: Bob Brothers Podcast. We'll see y'all next time.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Peace.