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Tya Adams Exposes Corruption, Trafficking, And Abuse In Kentucky’s Justice System | Ep. 363 · Voices for Voices®

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  SPEAKER_02: Hey everyone, it's Justin again with Voices for Voices.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'd like to introduce our guest today.
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  SPEAKER_02: She's making uh uh uh one of um many appearances that she she's made in in the past uh a few weeks.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh you may uh recognize her from uh potentially uh a court TV, uh with Venue Paul Tan and others.
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  SPEAKER_02: And uh we're gonna be talking about some obviously sensitive topics and and and subjects.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if you have any uh small children around, uh it would be a good time to uh maybe uh have them not be uh uh around watching it and and listening.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I want to introduce uh Taya Adams to our uh viewers and our listeners.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for being with us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, my voice is a little scratchy today.
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  SPEAKER_00: The weather's been a little shifty, so I have a touch of laryngitis, but uh it's it's nice to be here.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: I love the purple shirt.
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  SPEAKER_02: I you know, I didn't even plan it this morning.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_02: It was I I I was debating on uh because sometimes I'll just wear black for the branding, and it's so yeah, it ended up working out pretty good, I guess.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh I'll just give a little bit of a background uh to your viewers and listeners, uh, and then we'll just we'll jump jump right in and and uh feel free to uh again share as much or as little as you want on on the particular topics.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_02: We're not not looking at any gotcha questions or anything like that.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's just you know who you are, experiences that you've you've been through, and uh and may may be uh something that uh somebody else unfortunately may be going going through.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so this uh actually there's strength in numbers.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_02: There absolutely is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, the more voices that come together, the better chance we have at true healing and making real change.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: So I appreciate the opportunity to get it out there even further and put the call out that if there's anybody else, um, we're doing something similar with our YouTube channel.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um we're hearing the stories of other survivors and victims here.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how familiar you are with the cases, but um I've been exposing the corruption in my county, Letcher County, Kentucky, and speaking out against the judges and lawyers in the jail there and um the grooming and sexual abuse that I endured at that court system's hands by those leaders.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um so we are trying to make a difference because there's a lot of people who have been affected by this and the the whole thing with the it's prison for profit, drugs for profit, sex for profit, all to profit then, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: So at this at the hands of our lives, at the sacrifices of our lives.
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  SPEAKER_00: They take everything from us right you in order to keep themselves on their pedestals.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um yeah, we're here to start to dismantle that and you know, sow seeds of new ideas, new ways of doing things, and hopefully build a better, stronger community.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, definitely.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_02: And and I think it's a it it's a it's a it's a big issue.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I think it it's hard when something's going on that is you know considered.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I guess I'll use the word taboo to some people, you know, they don't want to think about like, well, that's not happening here where I live, or you know, that's happening, you know, somewhere else.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's not happening in my my community, and for a relatively uh smaller community for for this to have uh occurred.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the thing is, is it's not a secret here.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody knows and is aware to some extent of what has been going on.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_00: And whenever I say there are hundreds of victims, that's not an exaggeration.
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  SPEAKER_00: Our entire community has been affected by these men in power.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um they use the justice system to retaliate and uh they hand out big, heavy, long sentences, they railroad people, people are convicted of crimes that they didn't even commit.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um all in the name of you know, keeping their numbers up or keeping their thumbs on us, keeping tabs on us, keeping us on parole for life, you know, so that they can keep tabs and make sure we stay quiet.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: But um people have started disappearing.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: We have a lot of miss of missing persons.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, there's a lot of unsolved murders.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh there have been some witnesses that spoke out against this judge before the sheriff ended up shooting this judge that were killed.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um our families are facing some serious retaliation uh from the police, from the Kentucky State Police were going through it.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's been really intense.
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  SPEAKER_00: My daughter um she got arrested a few days ago.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_00: And four car loads pulled in around her and her little husband at the park.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they're young, they're 22 years old, those out at the park, had been door dashing and stuff all day.
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  SPEAKER_00: So people had lost her wedding ring.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: She was out there looking for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And four carloads pulled in, took them to jail.
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  SPEAKER_00: They made him take off his glasses and do a sobriety test, and then refused to give her a sobriety test.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I told him, whenever she got to the jail, she called and said, you know, put the cop on the phone.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_00: He said that I was lucky that he didn't charge them both with DUI.
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  SPEAKER_00: He didn't have to give them a sobriety test and he didn't have to give them a drug test.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: And whenever we got her out, sh the look in her eyes, whenever she looked at me and said, Mommy, I didn't think I was gonna come out of there alive.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_00: I thought they were gonna kill me.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you have to that makes you it takes your breath away, you know, to say the very least.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_00: Talk about your stomach hitting the hitting your feet.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: And what do you do?
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_00: There is like no control over this situation whatsoever.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_00: I was four hours away.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it wouldn't have done any good if I could have got there anyway, you know.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like they are in control, they are in power, and our local jail is uh is inhumane to say the least.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um we've spoken uh about that quite a bit on my channel um about the conditions, lack of medical care.
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  SPEAKER_00: They don't even have a stove right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um there's people piled up on mats on the floor.
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  SPEAKER_00: The mats, most mats don't even have stuffing in them.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're stuffed with clothes and cardboard.
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  SPEAKER_00: The conditions are appalling.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um I almost died from a severe infection because I had let me see if I can brought my phone up and show you this big scar I've got on my arm.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: Whenever I went in, I had this big cut on my arm.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: It went all the way around.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they took me to the hospital.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: The hospital said that I needed emergency surgery.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_00: And they said, no, wrap it up, we're taking her back to jail.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I went septic and almost got in there.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_00: It my whole arm had red streaks.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: It was red streaks at my face, burning fever.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: The it's just, it's terrible.
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  SPEAKER_00: The mold, the disease, the walls just leak.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's no air, there's no heat.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's misery.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like a third world country country.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not, it's not like any other jail I've ever been to.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I've been to other jails and you know, they follow rules, and you have a mat and a blanket, and you have what you need at least, you know, in a balanced diet, but not at least your county.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_00: So we're looking to change that too.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: We hope that uh our voices will make an impact and get the community in action to elect in people who know what they're doing that can make the changes that are needed.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_02: And that's a huge part of what we're we're trying to do too, is to put a big spotlight and uh and give you a megaphone to to share what you're sharing.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um that you know, we we're all human and we all have you know things we we've done in the past that you know it doesn't make us happy with some of the things.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_02: And and uh, but once we we get past that of you know, kind of like you said, going through uh you know the you know Pearl, you know, for the rest of your life and like things that are just uh out of out of uh we had we had uh attorney Ned Pillersdorf on and and he was saying it's like just it's it's just right out of a novel.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: They how how this even how how does even compute to like the average person and it and it doesn't, and that is uh it's it's amazing that you're you're doing what you're doing because it somebody's got to.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody's got somebody's got to or they're gonna kill us all, and that's all there is to it.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_00: They're coming for us, they're either gonna lock us away for long prison sentences or keep continuing to come for us to make us pay out of pocket, or they're coming for our kids.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: And so if we don't speak, if we don't get attention and don't get the help that we that we're asking for, then we're what quality of life can we ever have as long as we're living in fear and looking over our shoulders.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So what made you what made you want to step forward?
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh, because you you know, you mentioned that there you know people are disappearing and well things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whenever that that all happened with the sheriff, and whenever he shot the judge, like I the my first thought was somebody has to look and see what's going on now.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: They can't look away anymore because a lot of these victims have gone like to the attorney general and to the Commonwealth attorney to these various places to report these things and to report the human trafficking that's going on here.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: And they're blown off or ignored or gaslit, you know.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like um, if you listen back to some of the depositions in the Ben Fields case, um, Ben Fields was a deputy jailer, uh deputy court officer who was over the house arrest and he was raping women using coercive control to uh rape women under threat of jail.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: And some he did send back to jail and he would trade off their fees and stuff for it.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: But the thing is, is they've scapegoated Ben as if he's the only one, and he's not.
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  SPEAKER_00: And how long are we gonna go on and let it continue?
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: Are we gonna just let them come for our kids and enslave them next?
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm not okay with that.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_00: I have four daughters, I am not okay with that.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they started grooming me at 16.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: So that's a long history.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, wow.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that was Judge Mullins himself.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: And it was Judge Mullins, okay.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_02: It's uh yeah, it's just and then they destroyed our lives.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: They use family court to take our children.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, they use their rehab and drug court programs actually keep people addicted.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: They don't help people get off drugs, they keep you addicted so that you stay dependent on the legal system and you stay in there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, most of the criminal cases right now in this region are women with drug charges.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: And you gotta ask why is there such a disproportion there?
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's yeah, it's not a coincidence.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a coincidence.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: And then whenever you factor in that judge is using coercive control for uh you can either go to jail or do this favor for me and get rehab.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_00: And then you've got the uh the rehab arc, which is also under a federal investigation for Medicaid fraud and all sorts of things.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you've got this guy, Michael Clark, the preacher man, demanding sex and pictures for bed and rehab.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes he doesn't even deliver it on the bed.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's been women that got their kids taken care of and stuff.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: He's promised them a bed.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: They travel four hours to go and go to this rehab that he promises them, and they've never heard of her.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: So it's just creating more and more barriers.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_00: And it but what what I was saying about the depositions with the attorney general uh detective uh Matt Easter that conducted those interviews and interviewed the other victims and stuff, he is absolutely disgusting.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: Gaslighting, implying that it's a consensual relationship.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: And like we need to be clear, there is no such thing as consent when it's a police officer, a judge, a lawyer, a doctor, someone in any position of authority over you in your life.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: There is no consent.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: And especially not in jails and prisons.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: There is federal laws protecting inmates called PRIA, the Prison Rape and Rape and Elimination Act.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I got to dig in, and there's not been a single PRIA report since 2013 from our jail.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I know for a fact of multiple brutal rapes that were reported and like the police had to show up for.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: And none of it's ever been reported.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you've got guards taking inmates into the shower rooms or into like the hallway.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: There's an old stairwell um behind a locked door, uh, taking inmates in there to the stairwell to have sex with them.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: You've got them putting them in the shower together, males and female inmates, so that they can have sex.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just it's it's disgusting.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: And nothing ever gets reported to the feds.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing ever gets out of here.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's like they think that nobody can see them.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: So people see them now, you know.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: What's what's the name of your YouTube channel by the way before we Apple Dream?
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: Is it Appalachian?
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: Apple Dream, Appalachian Dreamers.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_02: That's why I want to make sure to share that with our viewers and listeners to check check that out, and what we'll definitely be doing that our ourselves because I've shared like healing content and spiritual stuff on Facebook too.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: If anybody wants to jump over there, give us a follow.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: Might something some value in that.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_02: So are are you still in your still in the system in the parole?
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like, how does that were you able to get things changed?
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: I got I got into a fight in jail, got charged with kidnapping, and got they told me I had seven and a half years, but I got to prison, found out I had 12 and a half years.
• 16:27
  unknown: Okay.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: Did the time did my prison time, made parole, and uh did my parole, did all my classes and everything, went to graduate, get my gold seal of completion, and they told me they went and released me, and they've got me on parole until 2099 and holding me on child support that I've never missed a payment on.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: And the child is 22.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_02: So and that's real.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_02: That's 20 2099.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just for control because they think that if they can threaten me with jail, then I'll stay quiet.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, yeah, and I and I'd uh invite anybody who is in the same situation as Taya.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: Please reach out to us.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: We are collecting as many as we can.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, to come together.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: As I said, there's strength in numbers, empowerment together.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sure, sure is anymore, and people are paying attention, so it's time, it's time to speak up with your stories.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like now's the time.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, and we're doing a lot, we've done a lot recently with human trafficking, child, child labor, uh uh, and it's just we're finding the same same problem where people don't they want to turn away, they want to pretend like it's not happening.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_02: And when it's brought up and it's to your point, a lot of times it's leaders, people in authority positions, and people are like, no, no, it can't be them.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like, no, they're you know, and they use CPS to remove your children and give them to you to our abusers, yeah, in many instances, you know, like CPS is one of the greatest human trafficking networks in the country.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: Don't miss, don't make a mistake about it.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: They make the most profit by stealing our children.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_02: And I believe it was one of uh I think it was uh Secretary Kennedy who was talking, I think it was about child protective services as well as another government entity that like you mentioned is the the uh the ringleaders of of the the the trafficking that just over the years that's just yeah that's just business as usual to them.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_02: But there's actual victims, you know.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's our point is that we are real people.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: We are we have lives, we have children, we have we just want to move on with our lives.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: We want to be free of this place so that we can move on with our lives, you know.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you want to live, right?
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this is a very poor area, um, which it's doing better, you know, of late, I think, but the addiction is rampant, and now there are so many dangerous drugs and stuff out there too, it's scary.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um they were trying to bring Ibigaine to Kentucky and they denied it.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: They said no, they don't want us to heal, they want us to be addicted, they want us to be slaves.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's that's awful because you're not not just you, but uh myself.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like we we looked at authority figures that want to help us, like truly help us, solutions, but they don't want to help us, they want to keep us in their in their schemes, in their yeah, in their prisons for profit, programming for profit.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: It shouldn't benefit nobody but them, but them, yeah, yeah.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_02: Did did you have any contact with uh sheriff steins or judge mullens yourself?
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: Uh not not sheriff.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, over the years he he's arrested me a time or two, I think, and he used to take us up to the court and stuff whenever he was the bailiff.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I know him, but uh Kevin Mullins, I have a long history with, as I said, that started whenever I was 16.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: 16, that's okay.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and he uh he quickly showed me where my value lied with him.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: I went to learn to take a deposition and ended up giving him a blowjob.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god and um he groomed from then and taught me that that's where my worth was and started pimping me out to his friends and taking me, you know, places and paying people to have sex with me, things like that.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um and that continued until I was about 20 when my mom died.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: And then um then I went to rehab and jail, and then I got you know straightened up for a while, and uh then I started getting in trouble again whenever I tried to leave with my twins, and they hunted me down on a child support warrant that I didn't have the week before.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: I was trying to leave a bad home where I was being raped by my father-in-law.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I had been, I went three hours away, had been there about 30 minutes, and they pulled in behind us at a gas station and took me to jail for a child support warrant.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the child support warrant that I am dealing with today, still yet on the same child who is 22 years old and has never received a dime of that child support money.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: Whose child is it supporting?
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's not mine.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's taking money from my children.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it was during that stint whenever they brought me back to Lecher County, and I got in the other trouble and got had that fight while I was in jail.
• 22:09
  unknown: Okay.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what got me to 12 and a half years, and it just it destroyed my life.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: Destroyed my life.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_02: And you were saying also, uh maybe in a previous interview, like you said that uh there would be, I don't know, like like I don't know, like hotel parties or parties or houses that that was.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, some places there's like sex dens, it looks like something out of 50 shades of gray, you know, mirrored ceilings and a bidet in the middle of the room, uh whips and chains and handcuffs and such.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: And then there would be other places that was just like normal, you know, homes or a cabin or a room somewhere.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: And um, as I said, there's hundreds of victims over the years.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: This spans back um to even the generation before the judge.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_02: What's the uh what's the feeling in in in the town that actually you're you're shedding uh so much more light and that that megaphone of what what occurred.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh is there a sense that since the sheriff did shoot and kill um Judge Mullins of uh I I don't want to say like oh he deserved uh not like that, but I'm just I'm just curious of he's our hero.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: Mickey Steins is our hero.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: For the victims.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: He had his the support for him is resounding because he was so well respected and he was one that we never had to worry was gonna grope us or try to fill us up or you know, demand something in exchange for you know rights, basic rights.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: So all like that's something that everybody agrees on, is that like he's he has become our hero.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um whether it was intentional or not, I don't know.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: I you know, like I don't know what his thinking was, I don't know anything about that, but he'll forever be my hero.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, that's incredible.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't think he deserves to be there.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't deserve to be in jail.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_02: What's been the um uh what's been the feelings towards you and speaking out because there is, you know, like you said, there's you know a danger of that.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I, you know, we have that also as an organization, as I saw of, you know, when you're talking about people human trafficking or doing things, and it it it's you know, it brings a level of safety concern.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: They start to scramble and do dumb things.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, they they've definitely tried a few things.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: I've received some threats.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, my daughter was arrested.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, another lady that spoke out, she was scooped up and arrested on a bunch of false charges.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: But we ended up, we were able to get them all dismissed and prove that you know none of it was true or that none of it was hers, you know.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but then we've had the KSP like knocking on doors too, and that trying to get people to come out and speak to them without a logger or a parent or anybody present, an advocate of any kind present.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it's it's definitely been a little intimidating and nerve-wracking.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the last few weeks have been really intense.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: But uh for the most part, though, like we have great community support.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like people are tired of being treated this way.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if even if you weren't one of the ones that was being trafficked, your life has still been affected by these monsters in some way or another.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like they it touches everybody.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: The addiction here touches everybody, even the ones who are addicted, you know.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and the same goes for the court system, CPS, it doesn't discriminate.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_02: Who's being uh besides your your your yourself?
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_02: Uh who are there any people in authority now that you can turn to and trust, or is it is it still kind of it's not I don't trust many people around here.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: I still have to go in and report to my parole officer every month.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like I trust him to like a certain extent because like I know that he's not gonna be unfair with me, you know.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, like he'll give me what I give him.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, as long as I'm doing my then he's not gonna like retaliate.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: I know that.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: But as far as anybody else in that courthouse or anything, I don't trust them right now.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um we've been trying to find loggers and things like far enough away that aren't afraid to take these people on, but are also um like willing to dig in because it's so complex, there's so many layers to it, right?
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_02: And we've found out too with we've had some legal things going on our ourselves with with traffickers, and to find an attorney who doesn't have that conflict of interest that doesn't know of those that person or those people is so hard.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_02: So I know exactly what you're talking about.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_02: That somebody find somebody far enough away that yeah, doesn't it?
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody recommended that I'll call uh Mr.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: Pillersdorf, though.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: You said that he was on your show before, um somebody just recommended that a couple days ago, so I've been thinking it over.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um we'll see.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he he yeah, he seemed uh just yeah, he was just down to earth, and he's just like I'm I'm representing my clients and I have the their best interests in mine, and and he just came across that.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you he wasn't playing any games, he wasn't trying to play to one side or the other, just saying, Hey, here's what I do, here's here's the the types of individuals that I I represent.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: And and and so that's why I wanted to to mention that at least, you know, as I was reaching out to you, the uh whether whether that turns out to be helpful or not, just the fact that it's somebody that's on on the side and is already a little familiar with it as well, you know, where he was already covering Sabrina things.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_02: He's in Floyd County, I think.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay, yeah, he's in Floyd County.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: I think so, yeah.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I thought he was in Floyd.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's about an hour or so away from me, maybe a little bit longer.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: So, but still, like I say, it's gonna have to be somebody, not in the immediate area, it can't be anybody here, yeah.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_02: And that's that's so yeah, it's just so crazy that we have that in common, and we're not in the same area of situations where you and I never thought that would be the case.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_02: I you think like with attorneys, right?
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_02: That they have they have uh they have ethics and all kinds of things that they um but to find out, it's like, oh my gosh, I have to be on the phone for hours and hours and hours to find someone, and then we just found out that the attorney we have for one of our cases is actually tied in with the other side, and so no, and and so it's like, oh, we found, you know, we finally found an attorney that will support and and uh and be with us, and and then to find out that uh he's been working with the other side for many years before any of uh the the the uh the legal things have been happening.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_02: And and so we're like, oh my gosh, we just need to get we need to get this settled.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_02: And then we can potentially go after that attorney.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_02: Uh of like, wait a minute, like you were you lied to us when you said that you're just gonna pretend to play both sides for a ball.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what is that?
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's yeah, that's that's that's a scary thought.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_00: As a victim, that is a terrifying thought.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_02: It is, and I never thought I would see that see the day that that would that would happen, that somebody that's a and they had just got their law license uh back.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_02: It was like maybe two weeks before uh we got a hold of them, and uh we didn't we had no idea that uh he had his law license removed, and he literally just got it back.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_02: And and so now we're seeing probably part of why that that's the case, and it's a hard thing to swallow because on one side it's like we wanna we want justice, but on the other side we want to make sure that the matter is uh settled before we go to that next phase, and it's it it just takes our minds uh and and it just does uh that emotional side.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: How are you holding up like your mind and your emotions and your mental health, like through all of you what you've been through and and and now what you're doing?
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um the last couple weeks has been really triggering.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um sometimes it's hard seeing like so many, like speaking to so many victims and hearing their story.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it's like reliving it.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it's necessary.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody needs to do it, somebody needs to hear them, you know.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_00: So um I'm able to pray and I practice earth magic, and I have my whole spiritual thing that I do, so that helps keep me grounded, keep my head clear, you know, help me stay focused on what matters and you know who we're fighting for.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we have a couple more minutes left, and so I want to give you the floor to share, you know, again, your your YouTube, your uh I want to tell y'all about Lexi's Place.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: We are trying to put together something.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we have a Facebook group, Lexi's Place, Homes for Wayward Women.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and we will be making it an official nonprofit.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's not yet, but it will be, um, to give homes and build a barrier relief fund to help some of these victims like get reestablished and get back on their feet and start working on getting their kids back.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_00: But now that some of the threat is gone, and hopefully by the time Mickey's trial is over, then they'll be able to make some more arrests and clear the rest out and get get us safe, you know.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_00: So, but regardless, we want to be able to provide a safe place and resources.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so give us a follow over there, and whenever we start building and things like that, um, then we'll be posting and you know, we want to keep the public updated on what's going on too.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: So, and like I said, for more healing content, um, we touch on a lot of domestic violence issues.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: That's a big problem here in Appalachia.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um so yeah, the women here have been oppressed for a very long time.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: And it's wonderful to see them like get back on their feet and stand up for themselves, you know, and for these future generations.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_00: So give us a follow, Apple Dream, and you can find our store links and everything there and over on Facebook, Taya Adams or slash Linux.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, thank you so much for Ty spending time and for doing your if y'all want to follow Brandy.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: Look up Brandy Davis too.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: She's amazing.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_00: My co-host, um you need to talk with her sometime.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: She's yeah, she's got a wonderful story too that's that'll blow you away.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_02: I'll have to uh we'll have to message me so I can get the right with her.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_02: That'd be the fantastic.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_00: And if you're interested, um there are a few other girls that have been like telling their story and stuff.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: I can pass you along to them too, if you'd like to absolutely, absolutely.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yep.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_00: Give me all that uh contact info and we'll we'll do that and uh just keep and we're also asking for other victims who, if you've been having like uh anticipation about coming forward, um, the investigators are here.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: We have a real investigator, they are working on it, they are working for the victims.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_00: Umbilly crimes telling people that they're not, that they're only, you know, but they are working for the victims.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I just want to reassure people on that.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: And his email address is jncotton63 at gmail.com.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody can email if you're a victim, reach out to him.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_02: No, this is great.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, yeah, and thank you for what what you're doing.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm fortunate what you've you've been through and um and and the people in your your your area area.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm I'm hoping this gets across well, uh to others uh in other jurisdictions, uh areas that they can um feel that it's okay to to speak out and let have their voice before.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: There's a whole world of people out here wanting to support you and give you some love.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like they are people have been amazing.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_00: People have been amazing.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's been overwhelming, it's so touching the things that people say to me daily, you know, like it just so that helps with the mental health part of it.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: That helps with the triggers and stuff too, you know, to get the encouragement and stuff from the public that yeah, we are doing the right thing and that it's needed.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_02: Well, thank you so much, Ty.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you do.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so uh shoot the those uh contacts at me.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_02: Love to have them on uh as well.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I think be helpful just to keep keep that uh that talk going in the communities and and uh just let more more people know that it's okay to start sharing if if they they would like to do so.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_02: And if and if they do, then yeah, we'd love to have them on.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um so thank you again, Taya, for for joining us.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_02: And we hope you have a good rest of your day.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_02: And for thank you for the viewers and listeners.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for watching and listening uh to over 360 episodes of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcasts.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_02: And until next time, please be a voice for you or somebody in need.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: We'll see you next time.