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Trade Deadline Winners/Losers & Reporters: Red Sox wtf, M’s slay, Phils run, Dodgers lite, Mets move · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Pete Abraham follow him at Pete abe Globe on Blue
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  Speaker 1: Sky and you can.
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  Speaker 2: His work in the Boston Globe. Pete, great to have
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  Speaker 2: you on.
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  Speaker 3: Hello.
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  Speaker 1: Are the Boston Red Sox participating in the trade deadline today?
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't look like it's so far, and I'm shocked, to
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  Speaker 4: be honest with you, because they have some very clearly
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  Speaker 4: identified needs that can help this team. They're in the
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  Speaker 4: playoffs as of today, they were a game behind the Yankees.
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  Speaker 4: I thought for sure you'd see them at a starting pitcher,
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  Speaker 4: perhaps somebody who could play first base. They did add
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  Speaker 4: Steven Match to their bollpen, but their needs are a
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  Speaker 4: lot more. This has been a big surprise that the
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  Speaker 4: deadline hasn't hit yet. We'll see what happens, but so
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  Speaker 4: far it's been a disappointing day for Red Sox fans.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Bloom got absolutely eviscerated for the guy who never
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  Speaker 5: made the move. He never made the move. All of
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  Speaker 5: a sudden, you bring in Craig Bresl. It's not Heim Bloom.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe it's the puppeteer that's above hem Bloom and Craig
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  Speaker 5: Breslo that are saying, well, go make the moves. But
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  Speaker 5: make sure they're just as cheap as Roman Anthony, Marcelo Meyer,
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  Speaker 5: Sedey and Rafaela. So go ahead and make those moves,
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  Speaker 5: but don't expect any extra money.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 4: The Red Sox like to say they're championship driven, but
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  Speaker 4: the last few years they haven't demonstrated that when the
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  Speaker 4: time has come to do that, and this team has
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  Speaker 4: done a good job since they traded Raphael Devers, they've
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  Speaker 4: got themselves back into contention. Really, I think against all odds,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people thought, well, they made that trade,
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  Speaker 4: that was going to be the end of the season
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  Speaker 4: for them. They've played better than the Giants since the
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  Speaker 4: Giants acquired Devers, and Craig Breslow flew out the Seattle
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  Speaker 4: the day after the trade to meet with the team
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  Speaker 4: and say, this is not a white flag. We're not
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  Speaker 4: giving up on you. We still feel like this is
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  Speaker 4: a good team. He made a statement to us saying,
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  Speaker 4: in the end, we're gonna win more games than we
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  Speaker 4: would have won if we had kept Evers.
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  Speaker 7: To this point, that's all been true.
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  Speaker 4: But if you don't go supplement the rotation, if you
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  Speaker 4: don't add something, I think a first base obviously, how
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  Speaker 4: those are just something words if they don't do something
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  Speaker 4: to back that up, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but does this current group understand how important it
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  Speaker 1: is to strike at the trade deadline? It sounds like
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  Speaker 1: a silly question, but I'm being serious. I mean, hey,
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  Speaker 1: they picked up Alex Bregman laighton'sprick training.
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  Speaker 2: That was a big boom.
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  Speaker 1: I think that probably led to a lot better you know,
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  Speaker 1: TV numbers, attendance, the whole deal, which they had been
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  Speaker 1: super concerned about, right, And like you mentioned, this team's
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  Speaker 1: generally played well since the Dever's move, which was negative
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  Speaker 1: pr for them. But I'm just curious because there's been
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  Speaker 1: some botched trade deadlines with multiple groups. Now, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: do they understand the importance of this? Of course to
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  Speaker 1: the fan base, of course, to the players who want
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  Speaker 1: to know that you believe in them for the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think they understand that well.
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  Speaker 4: Craig Breslo is a member of the twenty thirteen Red
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  Speaker 4: Sox who had a very clear defined need at the trade.
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  Speaker 4: They needed another starter at the time. They went out
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  Speaker 4: and got Jake started ten games down the stretch. They
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  Speaker 4: won six of those games. He pitched very well in
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  Speaker 4: the two games he pitched in the playoffs, they won
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  Speaker 4: the World Series, so it's really not that hard. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Breslo lived it as a player. You go back to
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  Speaker 4: twenty and eighteen, Dave Dombrowski obtained Steve Pierce close to
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  Speaker 4: the deadline. He was the MVP of the World Series.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, the Red Sox understand what deadline moves can
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  Speaker 4: do for a team. And now granted both of those,
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  Speaker 4: you know, especially the twenty and eighteen team, that was
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  Speaker 4: a team that was clearly headed for the playoffs and
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  Speaker 4: could do big things, but they still went out and
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  Speaker 4: added to that team to make sure everything worked right.
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  Speaker 4: Ian Kinsler, who seemed like an extra guy, ended up
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  Speaker 4: starting a bunch of games in the postseason. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think the Red Sox clearly understand what needs to
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  Speaker 4: be done at the deadline, but so far they haven't
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  Speaker 4: done it today.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, so my question is Breslo came what organization? Did
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  Speaker 7: he come from?
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  Speaker 8: The Cubs? What have the Cubs done today? They've been
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  Speaker 8: off they quiet too, So is Breslo just following the lead.
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  Speaker 8: He was up by Jed Hoyer, but I thought THEO
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  Speaker 8: was there now back with the Red Sox and John
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  Speaker 8: Henry's here saying, oh, we need to do this.
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  Speaker 9: And that.
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  Speaker 4: Theo's here, no doubt about that. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know that he's working, you know, I don't know that
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  Speaker 4: he's in the war room trying to tell them what
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  Speaker 4: traits to make I think he's a little further removed
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  Speaker 4: than that. But again, Breslo is a guy who played
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  Speaker 4: in the Red Sox organization. He understands what they used
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  Speaker 4: to do as a team. There were always a very
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  Speaker 4: aggressive team at the deadline. And again this team, it's
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  Speaker 4: not you need to try to figure out what they
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  Speaker 4: need to do. You know what they need to do
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  Speaker 4: right now? They have four starters on their major league roster.
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  Speaker 4: They need to add another starter of some kind. And
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  Speaker 4: there's there were guys out there that they don't have
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  Speaker 4: a first baseman. They need to add a first baseman.
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  Speaker 4: It seemed pretty obvious what they needed to do, and
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  Speaker 4: so far they haven't done it.
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  Speaker 5: Is there a the move that they do make makes
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  Speaker 5: Red Sox fans mad? Obviously, nothing's going to be as
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  Speaker 5: mad as you know when they got rid of Dever
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  Speaker 5: as a whole Dever situation. But is there a move
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  Speaker 5: that's made that they that they say, wait, man, why
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  Speaker 5: didn't we just not make a move?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I I don't know with that what that what that
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  Speaker 4: would be? I think a Red Sox fans have been
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  Speaker 4: excited about this team since they devonstrate because they've played
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  Speaker 4: pretty well.
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  Speaker 10: Well.
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  Speaker 4: He's hurt now, but he's played well when he came up.
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  Speaker 4: Roman Anthony has been great over the last three weeks.
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  Speaker 4: He's practically put himself in consideration for American League Rookie
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  Speaker 4: of the Year. I think, you know, this the momentum
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  Speaker 4: that they've built over the last few weeks, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: winning two out of three in Minnesota with some difficult circumstances,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they've kind of put themselves in position. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: if the season ended right now, they're in the playoffs
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  Speaker 4: and and I don't see how you don't do something
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  Speaker 4: to help a team like that.
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  Speaker 7: Or what did they do? You said they need a starter?
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  Speaker 7: Who is it, Pete?
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  Speaker 2: Give me, give me what from what's left now?
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  Speaker 7: Give me Zach Allen?
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  Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean probably maybe it's Charlie. I
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  Speaker 4: mean you would like to think, you know, no offense
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  Speaker 4: to Charlie Morton. They could do better than that. But
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  Speaker 4: maybe it's Charlie Morton. Alex Glora likes him from their
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  Speaker 4: days in Houston. Zach Gallon seemed to make sense if
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  Speaker 4: Arizona's gonna trade him too after trading Merril Kelly. So
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  Speaker 4: we're not Maybe there'll be a last second move, but
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  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, as where we are right now,
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  Speaker 4: they do not have a starter for their fifth turn
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  Speaker 4: in the rotation.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so last one for you. We'll get some
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  Speaker 1: instant reaction by no means done. But John Hayman and
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  Speaker 1: Joel Sherman said that they're talking to the Dodgers about
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  Speaker 1: Dustin May, who I do think will be moved. I
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  Speaker 1: know Dustin May wants to be a starter, and if
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  Speaker 1: the injured guys come back, he's going to be booted
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  Speaker 1: from that.
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  Speaker 7: Right Red he breaking news Dustin made of the Reds.
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  Speaker 2: They got Okay, okay, so thoughts back together again?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah we will, Red Sox fans be pleased with this
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  Speaker 1: being the move. So it's it's Dustin May and Steven
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  Speaker 1: Matts and that's the trade deadline.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think? Great?
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  Speaker 4: It well sounder for a spaceman, So you can't say
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  Speaker 4: it's been a big success. Dustin May is a guy
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  Speaker 4: who would have been out of a rotation of the
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  Speaker 4: team that a lot of people think is going to
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  Speaker 4: win the World Series. So it's hard to get overly
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  Speaker 4: excited about that, but you know, it is an improvement
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  Speaker 4: on what they have. I'd say C plus if if
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  Speaker 4: I had to give a grade.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's fair.
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  Speaker 1: You guys agree C plus ish See Yeah, Pete, thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for the time, and we'll look out
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  Speaker 1: for your article on.
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  Speaker 7: These two moves.
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  Speaker 1: slash val Classic Classic Trade Deadline. Right now, let's talk
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  Speaker 1: to a former Phillies GM and one of the stars
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  Speaker 1: of the Phillies Show. The star of the Philly Show,
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  Speaker 1: Rubin and Mara Junior joining us right now. Ruben, great
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  Speaker 1: to have you on. Let's get your big picture take
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  Speaker 1: on the damage the Phillies have done so far in
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  Speaker 1: the past week. We'll include Robertson. So Robertson, Duran and
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  Speaker 1: Bader to make this team grate it.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I think more than anything else, the Robertson
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  Speaker 11: and the h and the Duran moves were huge. I
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  Speaker 11: you know, they really needed both have the best starting
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  Speaker 11: pitching in baseball. I believe as far as depth is concerned,
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  Speaker 11: the first three or four they really needed to add
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  Speaker 11: a bullpen piece or two.
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  Speaker 3: They did that.
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  Speaker 11: Robertson didn't cost him any real talent capital, which was huge,
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  Speaker 11: just money and a lot of it now that they're
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  Speaker 11: in a one hundred percent tax bracket. But a veteran
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  Speaker 11: guy that they know and has been there and done it.
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  Speaker 11: And again, Duran maybe one of the best arms as
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  Speaker 11: far as the closers are concerned. Hopefully he can perform
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  Speaker 11: in Philadelphia. He's pitched in playoff situations before and had success.
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  Speaker 3: I talked to some scouts about him.
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  Speaker 11: They really liked the way he threw the ball when
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  Speaker 11: it was most important, and uh, you know, as far
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  Speaker 11: as bater is concerned, to me, he's a gamer, he
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  Speaker 11: plays hard, good defender. I think that they really felt
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  Speaker 11: like they needed somebody who they who can swing the
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  Speaker 11: bat against left handers. And I think the numbers there
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  Speaker 11: are pretty good. Again, another guy that's sort of been
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  Speaker 11: there and done that. And you know, he's sort of
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  Speaker 11: a Philadelphia type attitude guy, right He's he's one of
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  Speaker 11: those guys that plays hard, likes to play plays for
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  Speaker 11: the moment, and uh, you know, I I know it's
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  Speaker 11: not Stephen Kwan, but it is someone that you know
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  Speaker 11: will add a little right handed you know, a little
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  Speaker 11: bit right right handed hitting to to a very left
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  Speaker 11: handed lineup.
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  Speaker 8: Rubin, What kind of gam were you? You were a
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  Speaker 8: jam of this team. You went for it, didn't you?
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  Speaker 8: You always seem to go for it. I remember looking
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  Speaker 8: up all the time. It's like Ruben's traded for Cliff
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  Speaker 8: Lee and Roy Holliday and this guy and that guy
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  Speaker 8: and all these guys. Right, Yeah, that's awesome. As a player,
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  Speaker 8: I respect that and love that. Why why why do
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  Speaker 8: those gyms not want to give away prospects, their nineteenth
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  Speaker 8: ranked prospect for a proven big league guy. David Browski's
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  Speaker 8: not afraid. Prowler is not afraid, Right, the Poto's not afraid.
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  Speaker 8: You weren't afraid. Why are some gms just averse to
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  Speaker 8: trading their nineteenth rank prospect?
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  Speaker 11: Well, I think it's not necessarily for some gms, and
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  Speaker 11: this is sort of sad. I don't think it's necessarily
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  Speaker 11: about winning.
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  Speaker 3: For some gms.
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  Speaker 11: It's about preservation and long term, you know, sort of consistency.
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  Speaker 11: I my job as a GM, as when I was
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  Speaker 11: a GM, was at all costs win.
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  Speaker 3: I think the fans deserved it.
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  Speaker 11: I think that's something that's really important in baseball, is
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  Speaker 11: to make sure that a fan base has actual hope
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  Speaker 11: when they start a season and when they finish the season.
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  Speaker 11: Now you have to be realistic too, and at some
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  Speaker 11: point you got to you know, cash your chips in
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  Speaker 11: and move forward. But you know, if you have a chance,
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  Speaker 11: especially in this environment, there's so much parody.
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  Speaker 3: There's no super teams.
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  Speaker 11: There's no team that you can look at and say,
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  Speaker 11: this is a this is going this is a team
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  Speaker 11: that's gonna win the World Series.
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  Speaker 3: None not one in all Baseball.
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  Speaker 11: And you know, I like the fact that there is
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  Speaker 11: you know, ten, eight, ten, twelve teams that can win
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  Speaker 11: the World Series.
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  Speaker 3: So why not go for it?
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  Speaker 5: All right, let's talk about Harrison Bader. They went for
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  Speaker 5: it with Harrison Bader. Earlier in the show, they asked,
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  Speaker 5: guys asked me, they go. Are Philly fans happy? I said,
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  Speaker 5: they like the moves, but Philly fans want the moon.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you heard it. You heard Howard Eskin barking
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  Speaker 5: down your door. Proven you're not gonna make the move
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  Speaker 5: for the Actually, Howard Eskin's an Eagles fans, so nobody
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  Speaker 5: really cares. But is this Harrison Bader move the coop
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  Speaker 5: to Gracie for the team?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, if it's I always to this. If
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  Speaker 3: there is a.
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  Speaker 11: Marginal difference between where you were on you know, the
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  Speaker 11: thirtieth and where you are on the first, or the
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  Speaker 11: thirty first and where you are on the first, then.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a positive. I think their big move
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  Speaker 3: was Durant.
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  Speaker 11: That was a huge move because you got to share
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  Speaker 11: you're supposed to win. Is it, you know, the move
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  Speaker 11: that the end all be all? Is it the hundred pence?
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  Speaker 11: Is it the huge bat? Not necessarily, but if it
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  Speaker 11: makes the team better and it gives the team a
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  Speaker 11: little bit more depth and marginally.
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  Speaker 3: Makes it better, I think it's helpful.
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  Speaker 11: I'd like to see that offense just in general be
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  Speaker 11: a little bit more consistent.
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  Speaker 3: It has been.
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  Speaker 11: It has underachieved this year so far, and that that's
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  Speaker 11: been a concern.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, hopefully they can.
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  Speaker 11: They can get hot when it's when it's important to
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  Speaker 11: get hot, and getting hot is in September October.
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  Speaker 8: Are they done? That's all I want to know. Are
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  Speaker 8: the Phillies done? Are your Phillies done with this trade deadline?
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  Speaker 3: I think that they are.
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  Speaker 11: But again, Dave Dobrawski and John Middleton, I mean there's
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  Speaker 11: sort of help Ben on winning and I honestly, wouldn't
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  Speaker 11: be surprised if something else comes down the pike.
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  Speaker 3: I know that they're all the chips are in.
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  Speaker 11: When you get a guy like Duran and you give
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  Speaker 11: up an able and a tie for him, you're you're
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  Speaker 11: basically not just dipping your toe in, You're putting your
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  Speaker 11: whole body in. And I would not be surprised if
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  Speaker 11: something else happens really late. I don't think it will happen,
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  Speaker 11: but nothing surprises me because Dave Debrowski and you know
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  Speaker 11: that whole front office is pretty hell ben on winning
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  Speaker 11: and that that window may be closing a little bit.
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  Speaker 8: Sorry, Ruben, Sorry, I have to ask you this because
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  Speaker 8: I'm a white Sux's I'm a white Sux fan.
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  Speaker 7: Would you trade with Luis Robert Jr.
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  Speaker 8: Or would you do what they're saying to do, which
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  Speaker 8: is pick up a twenty million dollar option for next
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  Speaker 8: year and maybe try to move him next year. Or
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  Speaker 8: would you have said, hey, guys, he's out there, he
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  Speaker 8: has the great potential if you get him in the
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  Speaker 8: right place, let's ship him out.
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  Speaker 1: Can I give context here, Rubin real quick, like just
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  Speaker 1: an added layer for a GM their thought process. According
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  Speaker 1: to many insiders, is that right now, they're like a
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  Speaker 1: tenth best prospect on the team and they think they
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  Speaker 1: should be getting a top five prospect on a team.
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  Speaker 1: The rest of the league's laughing at them based on
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  Speaker 1: his performance so far this year.
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  Speaker 2: So like, fine, we'll take the lottery risk, We'll pick
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  Speaker 2: up the twenty mil.
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  Speaker 1: He's having a bad year up until the last few weeks,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll try this again next year and see if
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  Speaker 1: we can get that prospect.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I don't like working on if ads
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  Speaker 11: or butts. I mean, this is a guy doesn't really
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  Speaker 11: necessarily listen.
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  Speaker 3: I would take the player.
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  Speaker 11: I would take the player because he would improve the
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  Speaker 11: team for the Philly situation, but I would view him
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  Speaker 11: as a complete rental. I would not view him as
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  Speaker 11: a guy that I'd put twenty million dollars up and
• 15:54
  Speaker 11: try to trade him, because he hasn't proven to me,
• 15:56
  Speaker 11: that to anybody that he's worth that kind of dollars.
• 15:59
  Speaker 11: He has the ability to do that, he has the
• 16:02
  Speaker 11: talent to do it, but that's totally different from actually,
• 16:05
  Speaker 11: you know, he's on the comp but he still hasn't
• 16:09
  Speaker 11: made it.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: And so if I'm viewing him from.
• 16:13
  Speaker 11: The outside, in my view, is this, I'll take this
• 16:16
  Speaker 11: guy as a rental, probably won't pick up his option.
• 16:19
  Speaker 11: If he plays his rear end off for me and
• 16:22
  Speaker 11: I consider picking up one of the options, then then
• 16:26
  Speaker 11: that's then then I've taken the risk. And honestly, I
• 16:30
  Speaker 11: don't know that that he has performed enough and had
• 16:35
  Speaker 11: been healthy enough to be able to give up the
• 16:37
  Speaker 11: kind of quality that maybe they won.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Rubin last one for you and cited for the Phillies.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: We were debating this earlier. Do you think that their
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: current bullpen on paper is better than their bullpen last
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: year for the postseason? Because I know Alvarado is going
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: to come back and then he's not going to be
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: allowed to pitch in October. So with Roberts in with Duran,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: is this a better bullpen than last year? And if
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: it was you running the team right now, would you
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: try and get one more piece? Like there's some super
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: bullpen for Padre's bullpen is insane? Dodgers always have a
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: great bullpen. Mett's have done a really nice job at
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: their bullpen. Have they done enough there?
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: Well?
• 17:13
  Speaker 11: I think they've done enough in the bullpen because when
• 17:15
  Speaker 11: you start thinking about what they're going to have in
• 17:18
  Speaker 11: the postseason. Now you're talking about Lozardo maybe sliding back
• 17:21
  Speaker 11: into that bullpen. You're talking about the possibility of having
• 17:24
  Speaker 11: Painter sliding back into that bullpen.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Now, think about how you line up.
• 17:28
  Speaker 11: Now, you got Duran, You've got Kirkering, You've got Strom Robertson,
• 17:35
  Speaker 11: Painter Lozardo. I'll take my chances with that bullpen. That's
• 17:40
  Speaker 11: some thunder coming out of there. So I'm okay with that.
• 17:44
  Speaker 11: And you just got to hope the guy's performed. Now,
• 17:46
  Speaker 11: I know Lozardo hasn't done a whole lot in the
• 17:47
  Speaker 11: back end of a bullpen, but he's been there, done it.
• 17:50
  Speaker 11: He's got unbelievable stuff. But I mean that's when you
• 17:54
  Speaker 11: start and Painter hasn't done it, and you have to
• 17:56
  Speaker 11: see him play pitching in the big leagues once, you know,
• 18:00
  Speaker 11: and let him.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Figure that out.
• 18:02
  Speaker 11: But you're talking about the possibility of having some real
• 18:04
  Speaker 11: thunder out of there.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Would I try to make them another move. I wouldn't stop.
• 18:09
  Speaker 11: Until the thirty until a six o'clock hour, my brother,
• 18:12
  Speaker 11: That's how I love that.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's how I would work. I would be
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: held bent on trying to make a move.
• 18:18
  Speaker 11: I know that they've held some of their talent capital
• 18:21
  Speaker 11: and some of it's close to the big leagues.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: If they're still a move to be made. You never know.
• 18:27
  Speaker 11: You never know when a team will come back. There's
• 18:29
  Speaker 11: so many ebbs and flows. I mean, I think Dave
• 18:32
  Speaker 11: Dombrowski said that they thought that this Duran thing was
• 18:34
  Speaker 11: dead about it, you know, a day ago, but it
• 18:37
  Speaker 11: revived itself somehow, some way because they realized, hey, this
• 18:41
  Speaker 11: is the best offer we're going to get. At some point,
• 18:44
  Speaker 11: some of these sellers they're gonna have to make their move,
• 18:47
  Speaker 11: and so even though they're not getting exactly what they want,
• 18:50
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• 18:52
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• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Done to move forward, no doubt. Merrill, Kelly's, Ryan O'Hearn, like,
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  Speaker 1: we go, Adam Jude joining us right now live on
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• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Adam, great to have you on the show.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Obviously, I have to imagine Seattle is freaking out in
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: what they've done here. This is a franchise that hasn't
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: really pushed chips in in my mind until now. You
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: can catch Adams coverage in the Seattle Times. But what
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: are you going to write about in the Times with
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: the hall that they've put together over the past week.
• 20:56
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think the big question that was, you know,
• 20:59
  Speaker 12: do the Mariners maybe have the best and deepest lineup
• 21:01
  Speaker 12: in the American League and are they now potentially the
• 21:03
  Speaker 12: favorites in the in the Al West.
• 21:05
  Speaker 13: Obviously, Uh, they.
• 21:06
  Speaker 12: Need to play a little better and need to play
• 21:08
  Speaker 12: a little more consistently. And it starts this weekend a
• 21:11
  Speaker 12: huge series. The Mariners are hosting the Texas Rangers. Uh,
• 21:14
  Speaker 12: the Rangers are surging. Uh, they sound like they're active
• 21:17
  Speaker 12: here in the last few hours before the deadline too.
• 21:20
  Speaker 12: But the Mariners recognized that the American League is is
• 21:23
  Speaker 12: wide open, maybe as wide open as it's ever been,
• 21:26
  Speaker 12: as the and as the only franchise that's never been
• 21:29
  Speaker 12: to the World Series. I think it was the Mariners.
• 21:34
  Speaker 12: They were incumbent on, you know, doing everything they could
• 21:36
  Speaker 12: to to add to this team, to to bring back
• 21:39
  Speaker 12: a Gino Suarez, one of the most popular players in
• 21:42
  Speaker 12: recent history for the Manners. He was only here two years,
• 21:44
  Speaker 12: but it felt like a decade, just the impact he
• 21:47
  Speaker 12: had both in the lineup and the clubhouse and with
• 21:50
  Speaker 12: the fan base. So there was a perfect move at
• 21:52
  Speaker 12: the perfect time for the Mariners. And and they might
• 21:54
  Speaker 12: not be done yet.
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  Speaker 8: Hey Jude, they should make a song. I mean, that's
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: a great name for a song. But I love what
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: the Mirriors have done. Love I absolutely love the moves
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: that they've made. But why haven't they been winning? Because yes,
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: I know Naylor and Suarez are just getting there. But
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: Scott's like, this is a World Series team that can
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: win the World Series, And I get that, but why
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: haven't they been winning consistently.
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: They're five games over their five games back.
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: Yes, these guys are great moves, but is it enough
• 22:23
  Speaker 8: because there's something not working there so far. Raley's sitting
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: forty plus homers. Billio has been hot, you know, like,
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: what's the problem here?
• 22:32
  Speaker 12: Yeah, you're throwing Randy rose Reine there too, who's having
• 22:35
  Speaker 12: the best season of his career. They just haven't been
• 22:36
  Speaker 12: able to put it all together. At the same time.
• 22:38
  Speaker 12: It feels like the offense gets going and then the
• 22:41
  Speaker 12: starting pitching. Starting pitching is kind of down a little bit.
• 22:43
  Speaker 12: Starting pitching picks up. Also on the offenses is slowing
• 22:47
  Speaker 12: down a little bit here too. The bullpen has been
• 22:50
  Speaker 12: up and down a little bit, which is why they're
• 22:51
  Speaker 12: still here in the last few yards for the deadline,
• 22:54
  Speaker 12: trying to add one more.
• 22:57
  Speaker 13: High leverage arm into the bullpen.
• 22:59
  Speaker 12: I'm not sure they're gonna be able to push anything
• 23:00
  Speaker 12: across the finish line necessarily, but they're trying here. So
• 23:04
  Speaker 12: it's a great question. Aj I've been able to put
• 23:06
  Speaker 12: my finger on it entirely. Obviously, the injuries they're starting
• 23:11
  Speaker 12: rotation in the first half of the season was one
• 23:13
  Speaker 12: of the biggest storylines, probably the biggest storyline after cal
• 23:16
  Speaker 12: Ralely and all he's done. But they're trying to get
• 23:19
  Speaker 12: Logan Gilbert right, They're trying to get George Kirby right.
• 23:21
  Speaker 12: Brian wu has been excellent, Luis Castillo has having one
• 23:25
  Speaker 12: of the best seasons of his career quietly, so if
• 23:27
  Speaker 12: they can get all those things clicking at the same time,
• 23:30
  Speaker 12: they get those starting pitchers consistently. Going six innings into
• 23:33
  Speaker 12: the seventh obviously takes a ton of pressure off that bullpen.
• 23:36
  Speaker 12: But they've just been so streaky. That's kind of who
• 23:38
  Speaker 12: they've been in the past few years. When you're a
• 23:40
  Speaker 12: team like the Mariners who rely so much on the
• 23:42
  Speaker 12: home run ball, you're gonna have some ups and downs.
• 23:45
  Speaker 12: They still have quite a bit of swing and miss
• 23:47
  Speaker 12: in their lineup, so we're seeing some of those just
• 23:50
  Speaker 12: high peaks and low valleys, low low valleys, and obviously
• 23:53
  Speaker 12: as they turn the page here to August, they're hoping
• 23:56
  Speaker 12: to sort of iron some of that out, And you know,
• 23:59
  Speaker 12: they're thinking Geno's could kind of be that guy. He's
• 24:01
  Speaker 12: the good vibes guy, and maybe he'll bring a little
• 24:03
  Speaker 12: more consistency as well.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Couldn't They have had Josh Naylor and Hieo Suarez at
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: the beginning of the year, when they were coming off
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: a season when all five starters stayed healthy and they
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: weren't scratching and clawing with their bullpen. They're like, they
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: were primed this offseason to go and get a Pete Alonso,
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: and now it's like, oh, great, yeah.
• 24:25
  Speaker 10: We're gonna kind of go for it.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: Even though it looks like great moves they could have
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: done this early and they did.
• 24:33
  Speaker 13: It right, it's a fair counterpoint.
• 24:36
  Speaker 12: And you know, you if they had done this, you know,
• 24:39
  Speaker 12: six months ago, you're looking at a team that's maybe
• 24:41
  Speaker 12: ten games over five hundred and instead of five and
• 24:44
  Speaker 12: just cleaning to that last wild card spot. Right now,
• 24:47
  Speaker 12: I don't have a great answer for it other than
• 24:49
  Speaker 12: this is who the Mariners are. They had only fifteen
• 24:52
  Speaker 12: million dollars to spend in the offseason. That's one Geno Suarez,
• 24:55
  Speaker 12: and so that would have been their only move in
• 24:57
  Speaker 12: the offseason if he was even conceivably available. But when
• 25:00
  Speaker 12: you're operating on a fairly limited budget at times, you've
• 25:04
  Speaker 12: got to take what you can get. Your Mariners front office,
• 25:07
  Speaker 12: and again that's been an ongoing conversation with the fan
• 25:10
  Speaker 12: base here in Seattle, Why isn't the ownership kind of
• 25:13
  Speaker 12: pushing all in doing that one move, those two moves
• 25:15
  Speaker 12: that seems so obvious to everyone else, just to put
• 25:18
  Speaker 12: them over the top. But here they are, you know,
• 25:20
  Speaker 12: they felt like their prospects, we're gonna be a little
• 25:22
  Speaker 12: more valuable here in the summertime. I think that's turned
• 25:25
  Speaker 12: out to be true. Tyler Locklear. It was a big
• 25:28
  Speaker 12: piece in the return for Gino. He really built up
• 25:31
  Speaker 12: his value this year. He's been one of the biggest
• 25:32
  Speaker 12: best sluggers and in the minor leagues at first base here, particularly.
• 25:36
  Speaker 13: Over the last month or so.
• 25:37
  Speaker 12: But yeah, the Mariners, you know, it was obviously a
• 25:40
  Speaker 12: huge talking point all winter here. Trust me, I heard
• 25:43
  Speaker 12: from the fan base every day all the time. Again,
• 25:47
  Speaker 12: it just seems so obvious to the rest of us
• 25:49
  Speaker 12: outside the organization, and the Mariners knew that too. But
• 25:52
  Speaker 12: the ownership is just now willing to pay retail price
• 25:55
  Speaker 12: or not willing to pay sticker price for free agents,
• 25:58
  Speaker 12: and they feel like they get a bargain here with
• 26:00
  Speaker 12: two months left in the season. Instead of paying fifteen
• 26:02
  Speaker 12: million dollars for Gino Suarez, you're paying less than five
• 26:05
  Speaker 12: for yes, two months of service.
• 26:07
  Speaker 13: But they feel like they still.
• 26:08
  Speaker 12: Have enough time left here to maybe make a push,
• 26:11
  Speaker 12: and if they get in the postseason, the Marions have
• 26:13
  Speaker 12: a chance to be one of the toughest outs in
• 26:14
  Speaker 12: the playoffs.
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: All right, I love these moves. I I want to
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: make this one hundred percent obvious.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: But we have one minute until we got to hit
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: a turn break so quick.
• 26:22
  Speaker 10: No real quick.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: Genos Warez was let go because he swung and miss
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: too much. They wanted to get away from that. Now
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: they brought him back. Why why if this was their guy,
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: they should have just kept him.
• 26:31
  Speaker 12: Right, Well, he's never been this good. Of course, he's
• 26:34
  Speaker 12: been one of the best sluggers in baseball over the last.
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: He was good, but Seattle. He's always been good, but Seattle.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: Remember he can't hit bad batters, idold you whatever. The
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: other crowd almost.
• 26:44
  Speaker 13: He lost his starting job in Arizona fourteen months ago.
• 26:47
  Speaker 12: He was he was really scuffling there too, So all
• 26:49
  Speaker 12: credits to Gino for really turning it around and figuring
• 26:51
  Speaker 12: it out. He's thirty four years old now, having a
• 26:54
  Speaker 12: career year, and obviously he's setting himself up for a
• 26:56
  Speaker 12: really nice payday as a free agent, this.
• 26:58
  Speaker 13: Winner, and it couldn't happen to a better guy.
• 26:59
  Speaker 12: I think that's why the Mariners and their players, and
• 27:01
  Speaker 12: their fan base and their front offers are so excited
• 27:03
  Speaker 12: to get him, because he's the perfect fit, perfect guy,
• 27:06
  Speaker 12: a great guy at the right time.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Adam, great stuff, Thank you for joining us. And last thing,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: just thumbs up or thumbs down? Do we have one
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: move left for Seattle? Thumbs up or down?
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: To it?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Do they get a bullpen.
• 27:17
  Speaker 13: Arm putting me on the ste here?
• 27:20
  Speaker 14: I'm gonna have down.
• 27:21
  Speaker 13: They're running out of time here? Yeah, probably they're trying.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: They're trying, but okay, yeah, hey, world, serious contender in
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: my mind, I don't know if I can convince these
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: guys yet, but I'll work on it. Make sure you
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: check out all of Adam's work in Seattle Times. Adam,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: thanks so much for hopping on with us last minute.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Let's talk to Faby and Ardy right now from the
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Athletic about the less great to have you on. Thank
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: you for the time. You can check out all of
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: his work in the Athletic. What what do you have
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: for us on the Dodgers. I mean, they pick up
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: rock Stewart, They did a lot of their work in
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the offseason. Krats is snoozing about it. I think he'll
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: be good. I mean he's been good for the twin
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: this year. But what do you think so far?
• 28:02
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I think the Dodgers spent this much of this
• 28:04
  Speaker 15: offseason because they wanted to avoid having much to do
• 28:07
  Speaker 15: this deadline. I don't think they expected this deadline though,
• 28:10
  Speaker 15: going into this week coming in. I obviously they've gone
• 28:14
  Speaker 15: on their targets. Then sort of the name's flown out there,
• 28:18
  Speaker 15: and I think brox Stewart's the guy that kind of
• 28:20
  Speaker 15: made a lot of sense, especially at that price. They
• 28:22
  Speaker 15: only had to give up James Outman, who really wasn't playing.
• 28:24
  Speaker 15: They haven't given up anyone really from their farm system yet,
• 28:27
  Speaker 15: neither of these deals. And they managed to get at
• 28:29
  Speaker 15: least a couple of interesting arms in rox Stewart and
• 28:31
  Speaker 15: Paul Travasse. But there's still a lot of work to do,
• 28:34
  Speaker 15: and obviously there's the big fish out there still with
• 28:36
  Speaker 15: Stephen quant So we'll see what happens there.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: I know it's a right, it's not a rivalry. We
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: asked Max Muntsey the Padres and not a rivalry, it's
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: the Giants and Dodgers.
• 28:47
  Speaker 10: But are they looking down?
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Are they looking down the coast in San Diego and
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: going that team is getting a little too close for comfort?
• 28:59
  Speaker 15: I think they did last year during the DS Like,
• 29:01
  Speaker 15: I think they kind of acknowledged that that was a
• 29:03
  Speaker 15: team that was probably the best team that they faced
• 29:05
  Speaker 15: during that run. And I think Kei and Fernanson kind
• 29:07
  Speaker 15: of told me, like that team was better than last
• 29:09
  Speaker 15: year's Dodgers team.
• 29:10
  Speaker 14: Obviously Dodgers were not.
• 29:11
  Speaker 15: Winning that series, but like that was a team that
• 29:13
  Speaker 15: pushed the Dodgers, and they pushed the Dodgers, especially with
• 29:15
  Speaker 15: their bullpen. I you've seen that now with that, that
• 29:18
  Speaker 15: just kind of reinforces that, and the lineup is even
• 29:21
  Speaker 15: deeper now. That was maybe the one thing you can
• 29:23
  Speaker 15: have to point out is like, all right, maybe the
• 29:25
  Speaker 15: bench is a little bit thin, but yeah, that Padres
• 29:26
  Speaker 15: team they're threatening to push the Dodgers. Who and the
• 29:30
  Speaker 15: division leads only three games at this point. I think
• 29:32
  Speaker 15: you kind of look at it like the Dodgers had
• 29:33
  Speaker 15: to cushion here for a while, but that cushion's not
• 29:36
  Speaker 15: as big as it used to be, so Obviously, the
• 29:38
  Speaker 15: Dodgers have a lot of faith in what they have
• 29:39
  Speaker 15: coming back and what they already have on the roster,
• 29:41
  Speaker 15: But Padres don't look like they're going anyway anywhere anytime
• 29:45
  Speaker 15: soon the Dodgers.
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: We keep hearing about Russia and all these guys that
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: the Dodgers might trade.
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: They're not trading any of those guys, are they. Why
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: would they trade those guys? I don't I don't see them.
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: They have to have other guys they could trade, but
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: those two guys to me seem like two guys that
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: they wouldn't want to try unless it would be for
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: something huge.
• 30:02
  Speaker 15: Yeah, Basically every education I've gotten for like the last
• 30:04
  Speaker 15: week and a half has been like, they're not moving
• 30:06
  Speaker 15: Dalton Rushing or Alex Freeland. Like Dave Roberts even said
• 30:08
  Speaker 15: on record, I don't see Dalton Rushing moving, which is
• 30:11
  Speaker 15: not something you hear on the record at least. So, Yeah,
• 30:16
  Speaker 15: I just don't see how they do that unless it's
• 30:18
  Speaker 15: for something huge. But I don't think the Doctors necessarily
• 30:21
  Speaker 15: can do anything huge at this point.
• 30:22
  Speaker 14: We'll see.
• 30:22
  Speaker 15: Obviously, there's still a little bit more than an hour
• 30:24
  Speaker 15: until the deadline. Could be the surprise. But yeah, I
• 30:27
  Speaker 15: think they have enough depth in the lower levels of
• 30:29
  Speaker 15: the miners guys like that, and some interesting arms that
• 30:31
  Speaker 15: would make some sense.
• 30:32
  Speaker 14: And then we've already seen a couple.
• 30:34
  Speaker 15: Of moves off the big league ross, at least the
• 30:36
  Speaker 15: big league depth, trading away James Outman and Hunter Producia
• 30:40
  Speaker 15: to help address some other.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: Needs, and James Outman was pinch run like that's a
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: guy that needs to play, in my opinion, every day
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: in the big leagues.
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: He showed it is.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: There a need that if they're going to address it
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: would be like, Wow, that's the number one need that
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: will not only just like be a stop gap till
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: this person gets healthy, that starting rotation guy gets healthy.
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: Is there what is that need specifically?
• 31:09
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I don't think necessarily they're gonna shoot for another believer,
• 31:12
  Speaker 15: but if for some reason they go out land like
• 31:14
  Speaker 15: another high leverage reliever and then all of a sudden, you
• 31:16
  Speaker 15: get okay, that bullpen question is kind of solved, or
• 31:18
  Speaker 15: if they go out and add a bat because that
• 31:20
  Speaker 15: that was sort of the thinking this winner and signing
• 31:23
  Speaker 15: Micha All right, even if you have some pitching questions
• 31:25
  Speaker 15: and questions about healthy, this is gonna be a lineup
• 31:27
  Speaker 15: that's going to bang enough to sort of make up
• 31:30
  Speaker 15: for it, and obviously hasn't quite fully played out, especially
• 31:32
  Speaker 15: the last couple of months when you've seen the guys
• 31:35
  Speaker 15: like Oskar, guys like Freddie Freeman will keep that struggling.
• 31:38
  Speaker 15: But if you can get a lineup that's kind of
• 31:41
  Speaker 15: doesn't have any holes in it, that's really tough to
• 31:43
  Speaker 15: face in October, especially if you can get one or
• 31:45
  Speaker 15: two of those guys going. So if they can find
• 31:47
  Speaker 15: a bat here in this next hour or so, that
• 31:49
  Speaker 15: makes sense, or if they sprobably someone and just add
• 31:52
  Speaker 15: another impact arm.
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: Don't they have that coming though?
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: Here's when all these guys come back now and Sazaki
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: who knows when he's coming back, but when they get
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: on and this like another trade deadline because Snow isn't
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: still supposed to start this weekend, and then if Sazaki
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: comes back, and Kopek comes back and this guy comes back,
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: I mean, they have a long list of guys that
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: could come back. Isn't that just like the Dodgers will
• 32:14
  Speaker 8: make our trade when our injuries get better?
• 32:16
  Speaker 14: No, I mean that's what we're what they're saying.
• 32:18
  Speaker 15: Obviously, like, you don't know exactly what guys are gonna
• 32:20
  Speaker 15: look like once they come back. Obviously they're confident Tanner
• 32:22
  Speaker 15: Scott's cann come back, but you don't know what he's
• 32:24
  Speaker 15: gonna look like.
• 32:24
  Speaker 14: You don't know.
• 32:26
  Speaker 15: Still it to have Blake trying and sort of get
• 32:28
  Speaker 15: back into form. Michael Kopek, Bruce dark Graderol, it's just
• 32:31
  Speaker 15: a lot of questions and having a certified answer at
• 32:34
  Speaker 15: least makes it a lot easier. But yeah, like I
• 32:35
  Speaker 15: could definitely see the bullpen improving just by proxy up
• 32:39
  Speaker 15: guys get pushed out of the rotation and having guys
• 32:41
  Speaker 15: like Emma she and maybe be an interesting guy out
• 32:44
  Speaker 15: of the pen in October as opposed to well being
• 32:47
  Speaker 15: essentially if fit started the rest of the way right now?
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: Is this a Dodgers team that has to win the
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: division because the Padres all the upgrade everything everybody's until
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: they start playing games, everybody the Padres are gonna make
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: a run at the division? Does it do the Dodgers
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: based on the fact that they have guys that just
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: have extra injury risk, you want to give that time
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: to be able to recoup at the end of the season.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: Do you say they have to win the division to
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: have a successful postseason run or can they be a
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: wild card and still make a good run.
• 33:21
  Speaker 15: Mean, I think the talent, you can't rule them on
• 33:22
  Speaker 15: at any point, but like their team that especially the
• 33:24
  Speaker 15: last year, Like if they didn't have the first round
• 33:26
  Speaker 15: by last year, I don't know where they would be
• 33:29
  Speaker 15: just because they were. Remember last year, Freddy Freeman had
• 33:32
  Speaker 15: just gotten hurt. This is an older veteran ball club.
• 33:35
  Speaker 15: I think it's the oldest position player group.
• 33:37
  Speaker 14: In the majors.
• 33:37
  Speaker 15: Like, so, yeah, I think any time off definitely helps
• 33:40
  Speaker 15: and allows the Dodgers to set up their pitching when
• 33:42
  Speaker 15: you're looking at the guy like a Yamamoto or Otani
• 33:45
  Speaker 15: where you kind of really want to be diligent about
• 33:47
  Speaker 15: giving them days off, even during October.
• 33:49
  Speaker 14: So yeah, I do think it helps. It helps to
• 33:51
  Speaker 14: get the buye helps to get to win the division. Obviously,
• 33:55
  Speaker 14: the Padres aren't going to make it easy this year.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: So we appreciate the time.
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: It's fascinating, especially with the Dodgers kind of sitting on
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: the sidelines. Remember they were all in on everybody. It's
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: kind of it's fascinating, especially with the team in their
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: division literally throwing everything out there.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a banger trade last year the Dodgers.
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: Here's the thing, so did the Padres when they got Scott?
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: Remember Adam like the news lost? True. Yeah, here's my
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: thing though.
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: The reason that the Padres and these other teams are
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: doing this because the Dodgers aren't invincible and they smell it.
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: They smell blood in the water and they are like,
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: we might be able to actually take these guys down
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: and we're not afraid of them, and so teams are
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: going for it and I love it. Kind of thank
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: you to the Dodgers for not being as great as
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: we thought they might be.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a one hundred and thirty win team.
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: I never thought they would never lose a game now
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: they are.
• 34:47
  Speaker 14: Yeah, hey, well they haven't broken baseball.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Thanks for the.
• 34:51
  Speaker 14: Time, all right, thanks for having guys.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: So let's ask former front office executive Sack Scott. Is
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: he ready to go?
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Great to have you on. We're hot on the meta topic.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: And obviously you are dialed in on this team. You
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: know them well and you talk about them on S
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and Y all the time.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: What do you think? Great, they're trade deadline? If this
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: is it.
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: You know, there's so many prospects, so like to put
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: an actual grade on it, It's tough because I don't
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: there's eleven guys.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: They move so far, I believe, which is but.
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: As you guys were talking to you, I don't think
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: any of them are going to really burn them. But
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: I've done trades before where I thought that the kay
• 35:27
  Speaker 9: burns you, So you never know. Yeah, there's I love
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: that they filled their needs and we're aggressive doing it.
• 35:35
  Speaker 9: I mean, I do think when you have a chance
• 35:38
  Speaker 9: to win it, and I think in their circumstances, it's
• 35:40
  Speaker 9: more about they should.
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: Feel confident they're going to get there.
• 35:43
  Speaker 9: So this is more about what you do when you
• 35:45
  Speaker 9: get there, and to acquire three high leverage believers to
• 35:49
  Speaker 9: bring in a good, complimentary center fielder to what they
• 35:51
  Speaker 9: already have.
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: I think they filled their needs in a really good way.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Well let's go down the line here and let's start
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: with the bullpen. I mean, how do you stack up
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: this bullpen now with the rest of baseball? How October
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: is it? And you know how important is it to
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: kind of fill the needs up. They've got the guys
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: to get out lefties, including the ones in their own
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: division like Harper and Schwarber. They've got the uniqueness of
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: a Rogers and then they've got two closers.
• 36:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think they are set up as
• 36:23
  Speaker 9: well as anyone else. They may have the best bullpen
• 36:26
  Speaker 9: in the game. I mean, it's really hard to find
• 36:28
  Speaker 9: flaws in their pen. They got a lot of options.
• 36:32
  Speaker 9: The key is just going to obviously is for everyone's health,
• 36:35
  Speaker 9: and in particular with the Mets. You know their starters
• 36:37
  Speaker 9: don't go deep into games, or at least haven't. You
• 36:40
  Speaker 9: know what's going to happen these last couple of months
• 36:42
  Speaker 9: with play homes. Those are kind of the question marks
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: that could have some impact on their bullpen if they
• 36:47
  Speaker 9: have to be overused. But you know, on paper, the
• 36:50
  Speaker 9: talent they have is just as good as anyone's.
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: That bullpen is going to have to.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: Unless they get a star because of exactly what you said.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: When you go through all their starters, who's getting them
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: even if it's a foreig inning game, some of these
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: guys are coming up against it. Sean and Ia didn't
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: start the season, Frankie Montas, you know, it's always you know,
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: where's he gonna be? How how long is he gonna go.
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: Do they have enough in that bullpen? I get their
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: bullpen's awesome, the guys they have, but do they have
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: enough to get all nine innings all twenty seven outs?
• 37:29
  Speaker 9: Well, I think that's the key is that you know,
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: they've gotten some guys that shorten the game for them,
• 37:33
  Speaker 9: but they're also not you know, you also need some
• 37:35
  Speaker 9: long relievers in today's game, especially when your starters are going,
• 37:38
  Speaker 9: you know, two times through the lineup and getting pulled
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: for whatever reason, whether that's their actual limit or philosophically.
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: So yeah, it's that's the question. I mean, they're every
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: team is going to have a flaw. There's no perfect team,
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: and I think that's probably the question mark around this
• 37:54
  Speaker 9: team is what are you getting out.
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: Of your starters.
• 37:56
  Speaker 9: You don't want to tax your bullpen to the point
• 37:58
  Speaker 9: where you get in October. You're gonna have to lean
• 38:00
  Speaker 9: on them even more heavily than typically. You don't want them.
• 38:04
  Speaker 9: You want them to be ready to go for a long,
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: a deep run.
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: We just had this conversation with with said Mullins going
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: over to the to the Mets. How much does he
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: improve their outfield in general, not defensively, but also offensively,
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: Taylor struggled Tyrone, Taylor struggled here last month or so,
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: McNeil's been playing center field. How big of an impact
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: does this have? And in cityfield is a big outfield
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: compared to camp yards, it is a much larger outfield
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: to cover.
• 38:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you want to have good outfield defense in that ballpark.
• 38:34
  Speaker 9: I think he's a good Like I said before, I
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: think he's a good complimentary piece. Obviously, the offense hasn't
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: been there. You know, the speeds doubt. You know, he's
• 38:44
  Speaker 9: got elite speed. Defense can be end of time. But
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: you know, he saw him make a great athletic play
• 38:51
  Speaker 9: the other night. I mean, he has the ability. But
• 38:53
  Speaker 9: I think what it does is it gives them options. Right,
• 38:55
  Speaker 9: You've got Taylor's a really good defender. I mean you can,
• 38:59
  Speaker 9: I know, they McNeil out there, so you can kind
• 39:01
  Speaker 9: of you know, you only have one shot at this deadline.
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: There's no August Waivers anymore.
• 39:05
  Speaker 10: Right, So.
• 39:07
  Speaker 9: As many quality pieces as you can and then put
• 39:10
  Speaker 9: the puzzle together as you go. Because you have no injuries,
• 39:12
  Speaker 9: You're gonna happen, you just don't know where necessarily, And
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: so this is a good thing.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Hey, bring on let's four box this crats are there.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm texting you, and you're not responding to me.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Bring your tryout question to him. See what he says.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: He didn't text me I said, I said, it's a
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: try out between I said, it's a try out between
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: Taylor Tyrone. Taylor and Cedric Muhens both have zero at
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: bats right now. Whoever plays the best the rest of
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: the way gets the job.
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's fair.
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: I mean, you start breaking the season down into these
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: smaller periods of time.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's basically how it is.
• 39:58
  Speaker 10: Is.
• 39:58
  Speaker 9: No one could, no team is gonna accurately predict who
• 40:02
  Speaker 9: is gonna be the best over the next two months
• 40:04
  Speaker 9: of these guys that you know are solid but flawed players,
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: and so it's a competition. And they also can match
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: guys up a little bit differently with this, with these
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: two guys on the roster. So yeah, I think that's
• 40:17
  Speaker 9: absolutely right. You're gonna pick your spots with matchups. Mendoza
• 40:20
  Speaker 9: is gonna have to do that, and you know, probably
• 40:23
  Speaker 9: ride the hot hand if a guy seems like he's
• 40:25
  Speaker 9: locked in. I mean I just think, yeah, that's exactly
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: when you're talking about players of this calendarer where there's
• 40:30
  Speaker 9: no no one's clearly should have the job handed to them.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: They're gonna have to earn it.
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: Okay, hold up, agree before well crowds is like I was, right, Jack,
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: Let me ask, Let me let me rephrase the question
• 40:44
  Speaker 8: into a real question, not like it's a tryout. They
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: just traded for Cedric Mullins. He's gonna get the majority
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: of the playing time unless he absolutely crashes. He's gonna
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: not lose his job right away. No, but he'd have
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: to absolutely because when they trade for this guy, he's
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: going to get the majority of the time, at least
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: for a little bit, right until they say, all right,
• 41:06
  Speaker 8: well man, maybe Tyrone Taylor is the answer.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:09
  Speaker 9: Like I said, I think they'll be you know, I
• 41:11
  Speaker 9: remember Alex Cora telling me in twenty eighteen. It's really
• 41:15
  Speaker 9: all about matchups, you know, putting guys in the position
• 41:17
  Speaker 9: where they can succeed against all this information they're using
• 41:20
  Speaker 9: to figure out what's the best matchup for these guys
• 41:23
  Speaker 9: when you're trying to share playing time. This is going
• 41:26
  Speaker 9: to get the first opportunity for sure. My point, I
• 41:29
  Speaker 9: guess is just if he doesn't do much with that opportunity,
• 41:33
  Speaker 9: there may be a quicker hook. It depends on what's
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: going on. There's a lot of different circumstances at play,
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: and maybe McNeil gets back in the picture if Cedric
• 41:42
  Speaker 9: really struggles. But yes, absolutely he's going to get the
• 41:45
  Speaker 9: first crack at it, and ideally they're hoping that he's
• 41:48
  Speaker 9: the guy for the rest of the way, at least
• 41:51
  Speaker 9: against Righty's Zach.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: One more Matt's question, and then we'll finish speaking news
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: that I know many of our fans are excited to
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: hear about. But also apparently we're talking to the White
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Sox about Luis Robert. So the two part question here
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: is would you rather have Cedric Mullins or Luis Robert?
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: And do you agree with the White Sox reported decision
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: that they're likely going to hang on to Robert, pay
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: him twenty million dollars to be part of next year's team,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: hope that he looks like the twenty three version, and
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: try to get the upper echelon prospect that they're seeking
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: that no one wants to give them.
• 42:28
  Speaker 9: I would have preferred Robert just because I actually think
• 42:31
  Speaker 9: he's a little better defensively, and you know, there's upside
• 42:36
  Speaker 9: in the bat, but honestly, I'm not. I mean, he's
• 42:38
  Speaker 9: had his last seven hundred and fifty plate appearances or
• 42:41
  Speaker 9: so have been pretty bad, so it's hard to really
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: that he's going to bounce back to his previous version
• 42:46
  Speaker 9: of himself. He just maybe kind of where he is now.
• 42:48
  Speaker 9: I mean, obviously you're going to try everything you can
• 42:50
  Speaker 9: to get the most out of him. So, you know,
• 42:53
  Speaker 9: from the Met's perspective, I think I would have preferred him,
• 42:56
  Speaker 9: but I don't know what the cost was. This may
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: have been more cost efficient. Owns may fit a little
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: bit better in some ways with who they already have.
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: As far as the White Sox perspective, yeah, I don't
• 43:06
  Speaker 9: really understand why they're holding on to him that set.
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: They know the market, they know what they've been offered.
• 43:12
  Speaker 9: I don't know what they've been offered, so you know,
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: maybe they've seen enough there's enough of a market that
• 43:17
  Speaker 9: they think it'll be there in the off season, but
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: I don't really see it, or maybe they just feel
• 43:21
  Speaker 9: like the offers are just not meeting the bar. I mean,
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: I don't like to just dump players for the best
• 43:29
  Speaker 9: deal if the best deal isn't something you like, so
• 43:32
  Speaker 9: you know, hold on to him hope you know, there's
• 43:34
  Speaker 9: a price where it's low enough that you just hold
• 43:36
  Speaker 9: onto him and hope he performs and you can trade
• 43:38
  Speaker 9: him next.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: Year at the deadline or maybe in the off season.
• 43:42
  Speaker 9: But yeah, that the price would have to be the
• 43:45
  Speaker 9: offers would have to be pretty poor for me to want.
• 43:48
  Speaker 10: To do that.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: The crazy thing to me is I think agin after
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: this year and is bat continues to look the way
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: it does not the last few weeks, but the last
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: ten to fifty played appearances. I don't think he gets
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: twenty million dollars in the off season if he was
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: a free agent. So they're basically so stubborn that they're
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: going to hold onto him, overpay him and see if
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: they can get something else for him in the future.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense. But anyway, last one for you,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Carlos Correa just got traded back to the Houston Astros
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: that had been talked about the last twenty four hours
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: or so. We don't know all the details about the
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: money everything else, but just wanted to get your reaction
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: to the news there. Correa, you know, has had a
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: really interesting ride through At one point signing with the
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Giants the Mets, the physical didn't pass for him, ends
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: back up with the Twins. They told him they were
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: going to add. Then they go through the sale process
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: right now, so the Twins are in cell mode. Add
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: this all up, and what do you think?
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: And do you think that Correa still has it because
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: he's had a down year.
• 44:44
  Speaker 9: So you know, I don't know the details of his
• 44:46
  Speaker 9: medical history. I wasn't with the Mets when they signed him.
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: I know, when there were rumors coming out about this
• 44:52
  Speaker 9: possibly happening, I thought that's a lot of sense, especially
• 44:56
  Speaker 9: for the Twins. I think they need a little bit
• 44:58
  Speaker 9: of a reset in some ways. I think he's a
• 45:02
  Speaker 9: risky player as he ages and given some of the
• 45:05
  Speaker 9: health issues of the past, so moving on from him
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: makes some sense for them given where they're at, you know.
• 45:12
  Speaker 9: And I think that's a questionable acquisition for youson. Again,
• 45:15
  Speaker 9: I don't know all the details. We don't know all
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: the details. Will see what the money looks like, what
• 45:19
  Speaker 9: the p you know, prospect package if there is one
• 45:22
  Speaker 9: going back to the Twins. We'll see what that all
• 45:24
  Speaker 9: looks like. To really make a final determination on how
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: fair that deal is. But I didn't love that for
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: the Astros when I heard the rumor, but I did
• 45:31
  Speaker 9: like it for the Twins.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, well, Zach, thanks for joining us. A lot
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: happening during the ten minutes that we talk. Appreciate the time.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Zach's a great follow on Twitter. He breaks down a
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: lot of moves and a lot of player evaluation talk
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: and then also you can catch him on SNY as
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: well as Zach Thank you for the time. Thanks guys,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: trade deadline winners and losers or losers and winners.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: So losers Cubs didn't get a starter.
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: Cubs were just name me one team. Are we gonna
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: keep going? Now?
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: You could do one. That's a big loser, right.
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: Cubs, because because they didn't get I don't I don't
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: feel like they needed.
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: A start and they didn't get it.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: They're gonna say we picked up Mike's Soroka. That's a starter,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna say not for me in the playoffs, Yep,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: they're gonna say we picked up Andrew Kittridge for the bullpen.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: They're gonna say we picked up Willie Castro for and
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: the grade for them is.
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: I'm throwing the Brewers in there.
• 46:35
  Speaker 10: Too.
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: So the national central to me is weird.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: How about the Reds to that? And no Central had
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: a weird death.
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: The Brewers did nothing, the Cubs did minimal, The Reds
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: did crazy moves and the other two teams and the
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: Pirates were the Pirates.
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: They didn't but they why did not trade Andrew?
• 46:54
  Speaker 8: Yes, they traded Bednar, but he he's a free agent,
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: he's having a great year.
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: Trade him.
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: They got rid of Brian Hayes with Chelps. But like Santana,
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: if you could have got something for him, there's a
• 47:03
  Speaker 8: lot of moves there that could have been made that
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: they didn't make.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I would have sold high on Tantana.
• 47:07
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: It's it's it's it's I don't know. They're not central
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: to me? Is interesting.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: And the Cubs did get Taylor Rodgers from the Pirates,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: two bullpen pieces, Rogers and Kittridge.
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: The Pirates, I don't think so.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: But he could get cut and then picked up.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: You would think, yeah, okay, so they're your losers, Air Kraft,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: are you ready for your loser?
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: Besides the entire minor league system of the Padres and
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: the Twins because they lost all their players, they couldn't
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: be bigger losers, more losers. To me, the Red Sox
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: are one and a half games up in the wild part.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: They're not even the last wild card team right now.
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: Young team that is all piss and ventner. They want
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: to go out and win. They play seem like they
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: play hard. They seem like they had a lot of
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: places they could have really upgraded to make this team
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: what it could be another run in the playoffs, and
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: the rest of the American League East was really pushing hard.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: You kind of have to keep up with them. But
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: the biggest reason why did they get rid of Rafael
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: Devers Because they felt like it was going to be
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: an upgrade by subtraction. Oh and they saved a lot
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: of money. They could have made a big splash because
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: there was people moving, There was players moving that were
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: not just rentals. They could have gotten into some of
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: that money, and to me, they didn't. They got some
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: nice pieces. I think they're one of the other big losers.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, I thought the Tigers should have done more.
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they did some stuff. Dodgers didn't do much.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna put the Tigers on the loser board.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Charlie Moore in Paul se Waald, Kyle Finnegain, Cody Heuer,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Rafael Montero. I mean some of these guys are flyers
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: that might not be on the team in a month.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Like Rafael Montero needs to turn it around. It's got
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: a five and.
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: A half ra he's been bad for years. That's why he's.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Gotten bounced around.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, the Astros couldn't wait to cut Baid then he
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: wasn't good on the Braves either.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Expected Era is good. He's got a good splitter. Yeah,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Fineganel help, but he hasn't had a good year either.
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Just none of those guys to me, look like they're
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: going to.
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: I think they're in the men. I think they're in
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: the met category, not loser met category.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're the Tigers and you've been building
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: up for a while, right, they went through a rebuild.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Wasn't this the year to strike? American League's kind of weird,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: just like last year. I mean, look what they did
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: last year.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: I wanted them to get Gino. Yeah, they went for
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Bregman in the offseason. You got a chance to get Gino.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: For some reason, it wasn't for them.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: So I put them there. Okay, okay, ready, let's hit
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: trade deadline winners.
• 50:09
  Speaker 10: Pew.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I think we should let Crats go first because he
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: knew they were gonna win and wore their hat.
• 50:19
  Speaker 10: I mean that was my that was my all in moment.
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: I was going all in saying, yeah, it was cool
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: that the Mason Miller stuff JP sears.
• 50:28
  Speaker 10: I didn't know they were going to do what they've done.
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, they have just absolutely shredded everybody at this
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: trade deadline going to pan out. I don't think they're
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: all going to pan out, no, but it doesn't matter.
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: They don't have to all pan out. They addressed every
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: area of need. Did they get there because I'm forgetting now,
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: did they get their left fielder that they needed?
• 50:54
  Speaker 10: The bat?
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, I know it's here. Let me help you. So there.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: The Padres are complicated. We can't go over trade by trade.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I think we need to just like look at their
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: roster and go, let's just go position by a position
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: really quick. Let's start a catcher. They needed a catcher.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Freddy fer Meed got it boom from the Royals. Good
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: defender can swing it a little bit offensive upgrade boom.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: There you go. Okay, they needed to fix a DH slash.
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: And another bullpen on They got Mason Miller.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Right, but for DH outfield, they got Ryan O'Hearn and
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Loreo and Ramon Loriano great okay, now starting pitcher JP
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Sears added to the mix, and Michael King he's gonna
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: come back soon.
• 51:39
  Speaker 10: And Nestor and they kept Dylan ceas everyone was talking
• 51:42
  Speaker 10: about Dylan. They got them all.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because aj Preller picked up a bunch of guys
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: that don't cost anything. He didn't take on massive money.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: That was like the big oh, how are they going
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: to navigate this deadline? And he's like, I'm just gonna
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: pick up all league minimum guys and get rid of
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: of my entire minor league system and to start fresh
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: next year. So that's what he did. And that bullpen
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: has five eighth ninth inning guys. On most teams, they've
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: got five guys who pitch in the eighth or ninth
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Estrata is an eighth or ninth inning guy, Jason Adam
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: is an eighth or ninth inning guy, Morey Jane has
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: emerged into an eighth or ninth inning guy. And then
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: you have Suarez and Mason Miller who was picked up
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: as a big.
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna watch make another move.
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna watch Padres games every night.
• 52:40
  Speaker 13: Mhm.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be really fun. So they're the winners, but
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: we're doing the segment to pick three.
• 52:48
  Speaker 7: I think the Phillies did a nice job. Yankees did
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: a good job. Reloaded their bullpen, not only for this
• 52:52
  Speaker 7: year but possibly for years to come.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Who's your second highest winner to the Padres.
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna Yankees.
• 53:00
  Speaker 14: People aren't like that Yankees, I.
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: Think because they did a nice job. I think they
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: filled some needs.
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: They got Caby hero who can cover for him for
• 53:06
  Speaker 8: Volpi if he goes bad, can steal.
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: Your base, you know important stolen bases are in the
• 53:10
  Speaker 7: World Series in playoffs. Dave Roberts, Oh yeah, they reloaded
• 53:15
  Speaker 7: their bullpen. They made their bullpen better with Bednar and
• 53:18
  Speaker 7: uh and three three, and they covered for next year.
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: Williams and Williams and Weaverley.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Also work, including the whole trade month. So Ryan mcmannon
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Austin Slater and Amed Rosario to hit lefties.
• 53:34
  Speaker 7: Yes, they did a nice job.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: It's pretty good work, all right. I'm gonna get you.
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: Royals got Mica Strimsky.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm gonna give you my winner, okay, mm hmm.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Minnesota Twins fans, they're winners.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because this team completely cleared up their books, including
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: a big contract in Carlos And I know they're covering
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of it, but not actually as much as
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: you think. Bob Nightingale, Bob by Nightingale, who covers the
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Twins's They're putting in thirty three million dollars to cover
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: the remaining contract of one oh four over the next
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: three and a half seasons.
• 54:19
  Speaker 10: Who so Correa is cost them like twenty million a
• 54:22
  Speaker 10: year basically.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, so one oh four, right, But so they owed
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: one oh four left? Okay, they cleared seventy one million
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: dollars on the Korea deal alone. So let me tell
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: you why Twins fans win. This team's gonna get sold.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: They just made it easier to sell the team. I
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: know it's a ridiculous thing, but the best thing that
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: can happen to this team is someone else taking over.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: They desperately need that.
• 54:54
  Speaker 7: I played there, Bro.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: I know, but it's gonna happen.
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: Plus years ago, they still have them. They remember they
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: were going working at We're gonna, oh, We're gonna sum is.
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: Oh boy, you have to have uncle, you know, little
• 55:03
  Speaker 8: grandson Joe be part of the ownership.
• 55:05
  Speaker 7: They're like, no, we.
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: Want our own team.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna happen.
• 55:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah, but what we just traded away everybody? They were
• 55:12
  Speaker 10: pissed going into the year.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: If you told Twins fans, hey, you need to shed
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: your whole roster, but you'll get a new owner, ten
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: would say where do I sign new roster?
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: New owner?
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Ten out of ten, I'll sign anywhere? Where do you
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: want me to sign? I'll sign on your but cheet.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: I don't give a shit. They need a new owner.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: This is the way to do it. I know it
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: sounds painful, but I think they're actually going to get
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: sold this year.
• 55:40
  Speaker 7: I hope so.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Because wait, just to the quick timelines.
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: Fans don't listen to them.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Wait, quick timeline, you're not you're not.
• 55:48
  Speaker 7: You should be pissed.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Quick timeline twenty twenty three, make the playoffs. Nice year,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: win a playoff series, a wild card series, and had a.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Fun divisional series. Right, that's what happened two years ago.
• 56:01
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen a team go from
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: that to this. The next year they start dumping players
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: in payroll, right, I feel like it's a little different.
• 56:14
  Speaker 7: When he talks twenty one three dumping people.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Pirate the White Sox first started falling apart,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: the Twins weren't falling apart. They just decided to scale
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: back from what they had, and Twins fans were losing
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: their mind, like, what is this.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: We've been waiting for this moment. You even got a
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: new ballpark to do this.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: And they went the other way because the pull out
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: idiot was like, oh, it's not matching up with my
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: revenue whatever, And I think he got enough public pressure.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: That he was like, all right, I'm done with this.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: My legacy's smashed. Let's sell the team. So all right,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to give you guys a curveball.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Really, the padres onres won the trade deadline, Yankeys, Philly.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: As you said, Mets, what about the Metsts Yes, Mullins.
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say that would have been after you drop,
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: I would say the Mets. I would say, well, I
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: didn't meet myself, if that's the case, but not muted.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Oh my commuting my pack died. What are you talking about?
• 57:15
  Speaker 10: That's okay?
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: But no, I think the Mets reshaped their bullpen in
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: the sense that they got so many different looks now
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: and they have I mean, you look at what they.
• 57:26
  Speaker 10: Have on paper and you're like, yeah.
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: Obviously, there's always the question of how's this person going
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: to pitch in New York? How is Ryan Helsley going
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: to pitch as not a closer? How is you know,
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: how are transitions for guys gonna work? Obviously that can
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: be said about anybody's transition to any new team. But
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: I really think that they the upgrades that they made
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: were very significant.
• 57:52
  Speaker 10: I would say they would be third.
• 57:55
  Speaker 8: You can't disagree, yep.
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: Ch