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Speaker 1: Is the perform it Tonight two more bad polls of
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Speaker 1: the Albanizi government. How much trouble is it in? Also
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Speaker 1: tonight the Australian breakdowncers divided fans of the Olympics. Why
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Speaker 1: do some people love a kangaroo hopping act that got
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Speaker 1: zero points? Yet they do the great green policy that
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Speaker 1: the Albanizer government is hiding and a frightening sign of
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Speaker 1: censorship that could come here moves by the UK Labor
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Speaker 1: government to change the definition of Islamophobia really kill free speech.
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Speaker 1: But first the Albanezi governments pandering to Muslim voters. It's
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Speaker 1: becoming legally dangerous. So is the way our foreign minister
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Speaker 1: once again fell for terrorist propaganda over the weekend. Now,
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Speaker 1: yesterday Asia Boss Mike Burgess, he said something so extraordinary.
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Speaker 1: I think you should be froightened, should ask what kind
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Speaker 1: of extremist is this government leaving into the country. Now,
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Speaker 1: since last November, the Alberdzi government has given more than
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Speaker 1: two and a half thousand Palestinians from Gaza feces to
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Speaker 1: come to Australia. As I said before, did that even
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Speaker 1: though it's got no officials in Gaza to check the
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Speaker 1: background of these people who are from an area run
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Speaker 1: by Hamas, where Poles say more than half think Harmas
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Speaker 1: was right to start this war with Israel by slaughtering
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Speaker 1: twelve hundred Israelis. Now, if the government does want a
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Speaker 1: background check on these Palestinians that we're now taking in,
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Speaker 1: it asks Asia a top spy outfit. But Burgess that
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Speaker 1: asier boss yesterday, I said, if these Palestinians say to him, well,
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Speaker 1: actually I do support Hamas, even that's not a reason
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Speaker 1: to stop them coming in. Not unless they are, say
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Speaker 1: funding Hamas. If it's just rhetorical report, they don't have
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Speaker 1: an ideology or support for a violent extream as an ideology,
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Speaker 1: then that's not a problem. I find this astonishing. I mean,
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Speaker 1: of all the people in all the world who want
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Speaker 1: to come here, we let in people who say they're Hamas,
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Speaker 1: who say they like a terrorist group that's actually banned here,
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Speaker 1: a terrorist group that started this war last October by
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Speaker 1: butchering civilians, raping women, beheading men, and taking even children hostage.
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Speaker 1: What planet does this make sense?
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Speaker 2: Now?
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Speaker 1: Germany, their secretary status said, let's support he must supporters
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Speaker 1: and our opposition is also stunned by Burgess.
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Speaker 3: If you support using attacks like the seventh October, which
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Speaker 3: killed the largest number of Jews since the end of
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Speaker 3: the Holocaust twelve hundred people on one day and kidnapped
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Speaker 3: hundreds more. Then I don't think you should come to
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Speaker 3: this country. I mean we should ask ourselves. Will our
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Speaker 3: country be stronger if we bring Hamas supporters in? Will
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Speaker 3: we be more united? Will we be more cohesive? Will
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Speaker 3: our problems of antie seventies them be better?
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Speaker 1: Or will they be worse? Isn't it obvious? But labor
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Speaker 1: ministered Hu Sik a Muslim hearing all this is oh, look,
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Speaker 1: the opposition is just being heartless.
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Speaker 4: They failed to even acknowledge the scale of killing of
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Speaker 4: gardens of Palestinians. Forty thousand have lost their lives, and
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Speaker 4: apparently the coalition doesn't have anything to say about that,
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Speaker 4: and certainly doesn't believe, by what I can see, that
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Speaker 4: we should be providing a pathway for Palestinians to be
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Speaker 4: able to get out.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: The most obvious problem here, of course, is how can
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Speaker 1: Asia possibly be sure that Palaestinians coming in to say, oh, no,
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Speaker 1: we've only got rarely casually support Hamas today that they
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Speaker 1: don't give Hamas concrete support tomorrow and aren't their children
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Speaker 1: more likely than most who later radicalize and not for
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Speaker 1: the first time, I wonder what's going on todays? Are
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Speaker 1: they talking like this out of fear of offending Muslims
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Speaker 1: or to please their political masters? And asked because the
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Speaker 1: boss before Mike Burgess even made this false claim about
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Speaker 1: the Muslim refugees were taken in already, I.
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Speaker 5: Have absolutely no evidence to suggest there's a connection between
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Speaker 5: refugees and terrorism.
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Speaker 1: That was false. As I pointed out, then Muslim refugees
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Speaker 1: were already responsible at that time for the deaths of
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Speaker 1: four Australians in terror attacks. Now it's five. And let's
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Speaker 1: look at two Palatinis we have led in his families.
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Speaker 1: We let in Adam Yusef he was actually educated here,
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Speaker 1: but he identify ers as a Palaestini Australian as an
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Speaker 1: academic at Tasmania University says it's not a HAMAS supporter,
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Speaker 1: yet presented this slide at a pro Palestinian gathering. Misconceptions,
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Speaker 1: says at the top, and then HAMAS is a terrorist organization,
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Speaker 1: that's one of the misconceptions. Well, he says, every colonization
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Speaker 1: project in history is a legitimate resistance movement. So Hamas
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Speaker 1: is now legitimate, and who's he talking to or take
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Speaker 1: Nasa Mashni headed the Australian Palasinan Palestine Avercy network. Now he
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Speaker 1: has called for an end to Israel and helped whip
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Speaker 1: up many Israel protests in our streets. His father joined
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Speaker 1: the so called Palatinian resistance, but came to Australia in
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty after a friend his sponsor told authorities he
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Speaker 1: is actually a Christian, a Christian convert flee Muslim in
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Speaker 1: tolerance and torture, which is a reminder that some people
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Speaker 1: do lie to get in. In fact, Nasa Mashni's father,
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Speaker 1: once he was here, helped form the Australian wing of
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Speaker 1: the Fatah movement of terrorist Yasser Arafat, and at his
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Speaker 1: funeral the tribute was actually read out from Ishmael Hania,
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Speaker 1: who's the Hamas chief who was assassinated in Iran a
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. So this is the kind of
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Speaker 1: hatreds and lies and politics that this Albanizi government is
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Speaker 1: playing with. I wonder what's driving it. Is it just
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Speaker 1: the Muslim vote, Maybe it's just being naive that could
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Speaker 1: be the case, given how Foreign Minister Penny Wan effectively
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Speaker 1: helped him US on the weekend by pushing its propaganda.
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Speaker 1: Now One tweeted she condemned Israel for slaughtering supposedly innocent
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Speaker 1: Palestinians in a strike on a school in Gaza at
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Speaker 1: dawn five am on Saturday. She wrote, Israel must comply
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Speaker 1: with international humanitarian law, which clearly implied Israel had not.
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Speaker 1: Now I wonder if one could really be that stupid
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Speaker 1: or that biased, And same with the journalists, by the way,
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Speaker 1: just repeated Master's claims Israel's air strike on the Altar
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Speaker 1: Being school had killed seventy people sheltering there or no,
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Speaker 1: some said, you know, and actually was nearly eighty, or
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, it was ninety or no. Its to
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Speaker 1: the ABC was more. Around one hundred Palestinians have been
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Speaker 1: killed according to local authorities. In fact, those local authorities
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Speaker 1: are under the thumb of Hamas and a mass lies
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Speaker 1: for a reason. We should know. Wong should know this
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Speaker 1: actually because last October Hamas claimed four hundred and seventy
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Speaker 1: one people who killed an Israeli bombing of Gaza Al
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Speaker 1: I'll Hill Hospital. Again, though Hamas was using the hospital too,
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Speaker 1: and one tweeted, then she just passed on her deepest
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Speaker 1: condolences to that. Activist Nasha Mashnia mentioned, can you believe it?
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Speaker 1: In fact, the hospital wasn't hit its car park was.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't hit by a rock afire by Israel. It
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Speaker 1: was a rocket misfired by the Islamic Jihad, and it
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Speaker 1: didn't kill four hundred and seventy one more, many more, fewer,
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Speaker 1: many fewer than that. Her Massa just lied and now
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Speaker 1: wog has again fallen four harmas lies and attacked Israel
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Speaker 1: just like a mass once. You see, now tell you
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Speaker 1: the truth about what happened on said day, or at
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Speaker 1: least what Israel has said. Israel's Defense Force said it
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Speaker 1: hit a mus post hidden in that school and killed
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Speaker 1: nineteen Hamas, and Issula actually had terrorists. It actually issued
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Speaker 1: their names, their ranks, their photographs. The Idea of also
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Speaker 1: claimed that the three small precision rockets it had fired
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Speaker 1: could not cause the damage i Musk claimed.
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Speaker 6: Early this morning, the IDEF conducted a precision strike against
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Speaker 6: the terrorist in one specific building of the compound, an
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Speaker 6: area that according to our intelligence, no women and children
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Speaker 6: were present. You can see in a video published by
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Speaker 6: US Today, that the compound is still intact and that
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Speaker 6: there is no significant cratering or damage to the main
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Speaker 6: structure of the compound.
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Speaker 1: That's true, Israel might be covering up. I don't know
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Speaker 1: for sure, but very interesting. About nine hours after that
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Speaker 1: dawn attack, three nine hours later, around three pm Saturday,
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Speaker 1: the Palestini Ministry for Health actually posted on his Facebook
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Speaker 1: side it's regular update on deaths from Israeli strikes. It
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Speaker 1: said the toll over the previous twenty four hours was
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Speaker 1: just forty, not a one hundred, and that was from three attacks,
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Speaker 1: not one. Now didn't say this school attack was excluded.
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Speaker 1: Maybe we including the next figures, which hey, they've been delayed,
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Speaker 1: but at the very least Wong should say nothing until
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Speaker 1: the facts are out, rather than assume the anti Israel
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Speaker 1: worst now. Indeed, if anyone broke international law was hamass
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Speaker 1: which was once again using a school hospital whatever as
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Speaker 1: a terrorist base, hoping Israel gets vilified if it hits back,
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Speaker 1: and Wong fell for it again, which makes a mass
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Speaker 1: as useful idiot, and a very useful idiot in a
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Speaker 1: government that could right now be letting in more hummus
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Speaker 1: supporters with ASIO just waving them in. Joining me is
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Speaker 1: the country's top foreign affairs writer, Greg Sheridan of The
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Speaker 1: Australian Greg graate to see again. Look, Greg, there must
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Speaker 1: be millions of people wanting to come to live in Australia.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense to you that the ASIO bosses
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Speaker 1: is fine with the living in ones who say they support.
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Speaker 2: Muss Well, no, Andrew, it's not so. I can't follow
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Speaker 2: any of this. The Albanese government has completely lost me
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Speaker 2: on national security.
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Speaker 1: I think they're baffling.
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Speaker 2: They're indecipherable except for base political calculations. First of all,
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Speaker 2: why are we're taking.
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Speaker 1: Anyone from Gaza.
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Speaker 2: It is Palestinian and United Nations policy that the population
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Speaker 2: of Gaza should not be relocated. But if they are
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Speaker 2: to be relocated, then there are hundreds of millions of
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Speaker 2: Arab and North African Muslims living in Arab and North
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Speaker 2: African Muslim societies all around them, right near them. It's
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Speaker 2: also a principle of the UNHCR that refugees should be
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Speaker 2: resettled within their region if they are to be resettled. Now,
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Speaker 2: it's conceivable that there is some person in Gaza who
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Speaker 2: has tremendously intimate family links in Australia, and so you
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Speaker 2: might make a special case for those family links. But
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Speaker 2: why is the government telling us it's going to accelerate
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Speaker 2: a process which will lead to thousands of Ghazans coming
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Speaker 2: to Australia. We also know the last time Gaza had
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Speaker 2: a democratic election, and this is not to diminish the
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Speaker 2: tragedy of the human slaughter which is occurring in Gaza,
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Speaker 2: which is entirely the fault of Hummas. The last time
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Speaker 2: Gaza had a democratic election, it voted in a Hummas government.
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Speaker 2: Hummas is outlawed under Australian law as a terrorist organization.
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Speaker 2: Would we say it's all right if you support al
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Speaker 2: Qaeder if all you really meant was you wanted Afghanistan,
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Speaker 2: you know, to be ruled by your tribal leaders or something.
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Speaker 2: Or would you say it's all right if you support
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Speaker 2: Islamic State if all you wanted was for the Iraqi
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Speaker 2: government to be overthrow, Or would it be all right
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Speaker 2: if we said it's all right if you support the
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Speaker 2: Nazis if all you really wanted was for German to
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Speaker 2: be run well again, and you weren't really in favor
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Speaker 2: of slaughtering six minute Jews. I don't see how you
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Speaker 2: can say how any member of any Australian institutional government
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Speaker 2: can say it's all right if you support Hummas, if
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Speaker 2: you don't really support them, I mean, if you support them,
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Speaker 2: you support them. So this seems to me to be
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Speaker 2: a gross dereliction and a completely indecipherable policy coming out
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Speaker 2: of the government.
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Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely disgraceful. You know, what would they
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Speaker 1: say to someone who said they supported the Ku Klux Klan,
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Speaker 1: you know, or something like that. It's just it just
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Speaker 1: stags me. Now. Greg Penny Wang on the weekend immediately
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Speaker 1: said she condemned Israel bombing a school, even after Israel
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Speaker 1: had publicly said it had killed nineteen terrorists hiding there
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Speaker 1: and that it believed there were no women or children
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Speaker 1: among the dead. I'm not sure that Wong's got any
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Speaker 1: better in than that. Did the Foreign Minister go off
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Speaker 1: half cocked again?
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Speaker 2: Well? I think so, yes. I think there's a tremendous
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Speaker 2: imperative always to say something straight away, but the facts
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Speaker 2: are tremendously contested and shrouded in uncertainty in these matters. Look,
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Speaker 2: I don't want to be misunderstood here Allan Andrews. Sorry,
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Speaker 2: what is happening in Gaza is a terrible humanitarian tragedy.
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Speaker 2: It's entirely the fault of Hummas, and Hummas could have
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Speaker 2: had a cease fire any day for months and months
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Speaker 2: and months if it had released the hostages. According to
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Speaker 2: the Australian government, Hummas is a criminal terrorist organization, so
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Speaker 2: its leaders should surrender themselves for trial before the International
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Speaker 2: Criminal Court and then the killing in Gaza would end
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Speaker 2: in a minute. But in any event, in commenting on
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Speaker 2: a specific matter, the Foreign Minister should wait until the
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Speaker 2: facts are established. But every single thing the Albanesi government
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Speaker 2: does these days is just chrass domestic politics. So Tony
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Speaker 2: Burke represents an electorate with one of the highest Muslim
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Speaker 2: minorities in the nation. He's now under challenged by an
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Speaker 2: independent Muslim candidate as Immigration Minister. He won't make any
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Speaker 2: decisions on matters arising from claims by individuals within his electorate,
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Speaker 2: but he has to determine the policy about taking people
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Speaker 2: from Gaza.
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Speaker 1: Why would you do that?
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Speaker 2: Why would you put that person, that member of parliament
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Speaker 2: from that constituency into that role if you weren't all
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Speaker 2: about some appalling domestic political signaling instead of governing in
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Speaker 2: the national interest. I think the Albanezer government.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about exactly out of the panel
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Speaker 1: because I think there's a terrible conflict of interesty that
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Speaker 1: serves Australia very poorly. Quickly to Ukraine. Just to to
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Speaker 1: finish on this, because surprising is I think great Greek.
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Speaker 1: The Ukrainian army has again totally humiliated Russian President of
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Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin this by invading Russia. This is the first
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Speaker 1: time Russia has been invaded since World War Two. Ukrainian
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Speaker 1: soldiers have gone a reported thirty five kilometers inside Russian
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Speaker 1: Ya Kusk and had Russian soldiers surrender. They've had Russian
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Speaker 1: civilians flee to makes your refugee camps. Now Ukraine strategy
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Speaker 1: is unclear. They've still got lots of Russian troops inside
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Speaker 1: Ukraine itself. But what do you make of it?
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Speaker 2: Well, it is an extraordinary military breakthrough. It shows that
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Speaker 2: the Ukrainians should have been provided with proper weapons right
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Speaker 2: from the start, and Russia may have taken much less territory.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it seems to me unpalatable as this is
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Speaker 2: eventually We're going to have to have a ceasefire in
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Speaker 2: place at some point, and Russia will keep some of
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Speaker 2: the territory that it's illegally occupied. I just don't think
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Speaker 2: there's any way you can get out of that. And
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Speaker 2: I'm a million percent with Ukraine. This is what they've
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Speaker 2: just done, though, gives them a much better negotiating position.
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Speaker 2: And if the the US and the Europeans had supplied
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Speaker 2: them with decent weapons right from the start, they would
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Speaker 2: have lost less territory, lost less fewer people, and they'd
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Speaker 2: be in a stronger negotiating position. But this advance into
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Speaker 2: Russian territory puts them in a stronger negotiating position now,
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Speaker 2: and I hope soon that the two sides do get
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Speaker 2: to negotiations.
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Speaker 1: It's terrible humiliation for Vladimir Putin, who so deserves it.
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Speaker 1: Greg Sherian, thank you so much for your time. Now,
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Speaker 1: two bad polls for the Ambanzi government overgon worries about
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Speaker 1: national security and immigration that we've just been talking about.
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Speaker 1: They are hurting this government, but nothing hurts it like
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Speaker 1: cost of living, which is what the opposition leader teat
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Speaker 1: off today on and question time.
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Speaker 5: The price of electricity is now up by twenty two percent.
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Speaker 5: We've endured twelve mortgage rate hikes and the prices for
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Speaker 5: food and groceries are up more than a less percent.
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Speaker 5: Isn't it clear to Australds this government has lost its
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Speaker 5: way because of this Prime Minister's lack of economic management
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Speaker 5: and experience and general in competence.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm seeing this pressure in the polls. Yesterday a
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Speaker 1: Resolve poll showed the Labor primary vote now at just
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Speaker 1: twenty nine percent, that's eight points behind the coalition. More
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Speaker 1: than half of those surveys said they worried the economy
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Speaker 1: would sour even more. And then today a News poll
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Speaker 1: is not much better for Labour. It's primary vote down
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Speaker 1: at thirty two percent. The coalitions are rising to thirty
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Speaker 1: nine as biggestly yet although after preferences it was fifty
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Speaker 1: to fifty. Tai joining me is the Monday Political Panel
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Speaker 1: Michael Kroger, Former Victorian Liberal President Steeve Conroy, former Labour
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Speaker 1: senator and Cabinet minister Michael Kroger. What did the polls
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Speaker 1: tell you? With an election? Due? Of course, anytime went
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Speaker 1: up to.
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Speaker 7: May well, I've always believed that needed to be an
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Speaker 7: interest rate cup before he calls on elect so I
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Speaker 7: don't think he's going to call one this year. He
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Speaker 7: won't have a budget next year. He has to call
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Speaker 7: it before the budget because that's going to be a
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Speaker 7: massive deficit, which then damages his economic credibility even further.
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Speaker 7: So it looks like March April. What they tell me
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Speaker 7: is this, he's certain to lose his majority. There's now
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Speaker 7: zero chants that Albanese he will keep a majority that
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Speaker 7: is seventy six seats. He's probably in the low seventies
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Speaker 7: now there's a two percent swing against him. If there's
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Speaker 7: a three percent swing against him, Dutton gets a majority
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Speaker 7: on the floor. And if Dutton gets a majority on
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Speaker 7: the floor, which has got every chance of getting because
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Speaker 7: I think Albanize is slowly sinking, then it's a race
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Speaker 7: to get to seventy six and Dutton's in with a
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Speaker 7: very good chance.
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Speaker 1: Mate, Stephen, you know what it'd be about a year
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Speaker 1: and a half ago that people were saying that Peter
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Speaker 1: Dutton was unelectable, Tenua Plibsek, The environments was making fun
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Speaker 1: of him looking like Voldemort, nasty, childish, you know, comments
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Speaker 1: about his appearance, etc. Doesn't seem to be the case,
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Speaker 1: and one of these polls is the most popular, is
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Speaker 1: more popular than alban easy.
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Speaker 8: Well, there's no question these polls are disappointing for the government.
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Speaker 8: I think the sustained pressure of the interest rate rises
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Speaker 8: is starting to take a serious toll they I don't
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Speaker 8: quite share Michael's optism, and when he did he said majority,
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Speaker 8: what he meant was there'd be the larger of the
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Speaker 8: two parties, I think is what Michael was intending to say,
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Speaker 8: and then they both would be scrabbling to get a
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Speaker 8: minority of government. Now, let's be clear, I've been through
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Speaker 8: a minority government. Manority governments are dreadful for the country.
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Speaker 8: They're dreadful to try and operated, and you wouldn't wish
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Speaker 8: a minority of government on Peter Dutton or Anthony Albanese.
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Speaker 8: But that seems to be where things are settling at
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Speaker 8: the moment. If an election was held this weekend, I
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Speaker 8: think the government's budget measures I've fully come through. Yet
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Speaker 8: you've seen economic news which is not as bad as
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Speaker 8: Michael portrays. I think that the markets understand that there
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Speaker 8: will be a cut, just because the Reserve Bank wants
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Speaker 8: to pretend there's not going to be one, just like
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Speaker 8: they pretended there wasn't going to be great rises. Doesn't
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Speaker 8: mean there won't be. I share Michael's view. I still
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Speaker 8: think that March April May is the most likely timing
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Speaker 8: after the West Australian election has washed its way through
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Speaker 8: the system so that that is the most likely outcome.
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Speaker 8: But no question, these are disappointing numbers and if election
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Speaker 8: had been held on the weekend there would be a
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Speaker 8: minority government.
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Speaker 1: Well that's a shocker. Isn't it terrible that the most
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Speaker 1: likely result was going to be the very worst possible
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Speaker 1: for Australia right in the middle, minority government. Back to
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Speaker 1: the issue Michael that I raised at the top of
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Speaker 1: the show, the government's extraordinary pandering to the Muslim vote
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Speaker 1: living in Palistinian refugees. You say they're like Hamas attacking
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Speaker 1: Israel for a missile attack that killed nineteen Hamas and
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Speaker 1: Islamic jihad terrorists. Here's a clue, I think to what's
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Speaker 1: going on. Tell me what you think. A popular Muslim doctor,
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Speaker 1: doctor Zid bas Uni, will tomorrow announced it he's going
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Speaker 1: to run against the new Home Affairs mister Tony Burke
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Speaker 1: in the minister's electorate of Watson, we're twenty five percent
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Speaker 1: of voters a Muslim. He reckons the Ambanism's still not
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Speaker 1: hard enough against Israel. Does he have a chance do
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Speaker 1: you think?
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Speaker 7: No, he doesn't have any chance at all. The hard
21:28
Speaker 7: left vote, the left vote in Watson is sixty percent minimum.
21:31
Speaker 7: I mean, Burke got sixty five percent two pp at
21:34
Speaker 7: the last election, so he's not at risk. But what
21:37
Speaker 7: he is doing is pandering to the hard Muslim vote.
21:41
Speaker 7: And whilst that might please a lot of people in Watson,
21:46
Speaker 7: this man who two weeks ago when he was promoted,
21:50
Speaker 7: was promoted by Albo as part of this you know,
21:53
Speaker 7: two headed alternative leadership strategy. Elbow's got going could be charged.
21:57
Speaker 1: That could be Burke.
21:59
Speaker 7: Tony Burke is sinking nationally amongst people because if he
22:03
Speaker 7: thinks it's a good idea to allow another thousand refugees
22:06
Speaker 7: from Garsa to come into this country with minimal or
22:09
Speaker 7: no security checks, he's losing the country. I mean, if
22:12
Speaker 7: people said to the Australian Embassy in Cairo or representatives wherever, yes,
22:19
Speaker 7: I'm a supporter of Hamas and Heath in Burgess thinks
22:23
Speaker 7: that's okay to.
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Speaker 1: Come into this country.
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Speaker 7: So if I'm going to an Australian embassy or concert
22:29
Speaker 7: somewhere in the world and say, look, I have to
22:31
Speaker 7: tell you I want to come to Australia, but I'm
22:32
Speaker 7: a supporter of Adult Hitler and the Nazis. I support
22:36
Speaker 7: the Nazis on character grounds. Should those people be allowed
22:39
Speaker 7: to come into Australia. The answer is absolutely no, which
22:43
Speaker 7: is why James why Patterson is that one hundred percent correct,
22:46
Speaker 7: as he usually is on this stuff. Zero is the
22:49
Speaker 7: number of people who should come into this country who
22:52
Speaker 7: say they're Hamas supporters, and Burke is going to lose
22:55
Speaker 7: the nation once people understand this is what this bloke
22:58
Speaker 7: is allowing as immigration.
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Speaker 1: Well, I thought it would have been smarter of him
23:03
Speaker 1: to jump on Marke Burgess's comments and show that he's
23:08
Speaker 1: the tough guy. He would have got a lot of colluidibility,
23:10
Speaker 1: including from people that would perhaps naturally oppose labor. Now
23:16
Speaker 1: we're going to be looking at this wider issue tomorrow
23:18
Speaker 1: in a special investigation Clash of Faiths. The Fight for
23:22
Speaker 1: Muslim votes will be right here on Sky News at
23:24
Speaker 1: seven thirty pm. But Steve, when you've got a Muslim
23:28
Speaker 1: candidate now running in a very Muslim seat against Tony
23:31
Speaker 1: Burks is in charge of immigration, including Muslim immigration. Right now,
23:34
Speaker 1: what position does that put him in? Wouldn't you now
23:37
Speaker 1: say there's a conflict of interest here, or at least
23:39
Speaker 1: the perceived one, And well, I think it was a
23:43
Speaker 1: mistake to put him there. But how does it look
23:45
Speaker 1: for the government now?
23:48
Speaker 8: Look, I think he's already said that he's put a
23:51
Speaker 8: ring fence around issues to there with his own electorate
23:55
Speaker 8: and he won't be making decisions there. So I think
23:59
Speaker 8: the idea that there's a conflict of interest is seriously
24:04
Speaker 8: over egging it to the boarder.
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Speaker 1: What he does it for the nation is brought broader
24:10
Speaker 1: than that, but mists and immigration nation.
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Speaker 8: But Michael's point is he has to be able to
24:17
Speaker 8: make the judgment about what's best in the countries and
24:21
Speaker 8: the Labor government's interests. And I share some of Michael's
24:26
Speaker 8: view that in the broader debate it will be very
24:29
Speaker 8: tough for Labor to say it's okay for people who
24:33
Speaker 8: overtly expressly say they support hamas it's a terrorist organization.
24:39
Speaker 8: It doesn't believe in the things that we believe in
24:42
Speaker 8: in Australia. Let's be very clear about this. Hams believe
24:45
Speaker 8: in the eradication of the State of Israel. They don't
24:48
Speaker 8: believe in a two state solution. They don't believe in
24:52
Speaker 8: bringing this conflict in Gaza to an end. They're prepared
24:56
Speaker 8: to fight to the last drop of Palestinian blood to
24:59
Speaker 8: try right and discredit the State of Israel across the globe.
25:03
Speaker 8: They have no interest in a peace process. So I'm
25:07
Speaker 8: very uncomfortable. I think it'll be a very difficult sell
25:10
Speaker 8: for Labor to say that they can get the balance
25:14
Speaker 8: right by just letting everybody in.
25:16
Speaker 1: Even if they've said that, Will Samas well said Stephen,
25:21
Speaker 1: that's why I think you know it really. Tony Berkshire
25:24
Speaker 1: had come straight out and mocked this on the head,
25:26
Speaker 1: would have got cutos for it, because it's clearly unsupportable
25:30
Speaker 1: want this policy. Michael Kroegus, Stephen Connor, thank you both
25:33
Speaker 1: for your time. After the break Labour's secret green agenda
25:37
Speaker 1: and it's a big one. Plus how I supposed community
25:40
Speaker 1: charity for Tasmanians blew more than half a million dollars
25:44
Speaker 1: on the Yes campaign instead, the Albanizy government's green degendas
25:52
Speaker 1: are really hurting our economy. You know, getting rid of
25:54
Speaker 1: colfhone power stations going win and sold them instead driving
25:57
Speaker 1: up your power bills, et cetera. But here's the war.
26:00
Speaker 1: It's also got plans to go in even harder. It's
26:03
Speaker 1: now coming to a crunch with the Opposition Environments Tenure
26:07
Speaker 1: PLYLIV section's pushing an international agenda call Nature Positive, even
26:12
Speaker 1: tougher laws and aboriginal cultural protection, even tougher global warming
26:16
Speaker 1: policies and new investors, even tougher restrictions on fracking for
26:19
Speaker 1: the gas we badly need, and even more restrictions in
26:23
Speaker 1: nuclear power. You know, all the green tape and aboriginal
26:25
Speaker 1: heritage rules we already have just not enough.
26:28
Speaker 9: She reckons Australia's environmental decline is a direct product of
26:36
Speaker 9: Australia's poor environmental laws.
26:40
Speaker 1: Now plibus x DO hasn't decided exactly which of these
26:43
Speaker 1: new laws should be the ones she wants to get
26:46
Speaker 1: through the Parliament. Maybe she's too scared to tell you
26:49
Speaker 1: hit of the election, but she does want a big
26:52
Speaker 1: new green police force already that will use these laws
26:56
Speaker 1: when they come in to boss people. It's what she
26:58
Speaker 1: calls the Environment Protection Australia. But for that to get
27:02
Speaker 1: through Parliament. She will need the backing of oither the
27:05
Speaker 1: Opposition or the Greens joining me is the opposition's environment
27:08
Speaker 1: supposed to be Senator Jonathan Dunham. Senator Dunham, thank you
27:12
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. The new Federal Environment Protection Australia.
27:17
Speaker 1: This new body that the Tenure purpis wants to set up.
27:20
Speaker 1: What's your problem with it?
27:24
Speaker 10: Well, Andrew, This government promise that by the end of
27:27
Speaker 10: last year twenty twenty three, we'd have laws in Parliament
27:30
Speaker 10: to replace the outdated Environment Protection by Diversity Conservation Act
27:34
Speaker 10: the National Environmental Approval Laws. They have broken that promise
27:38
Speaker 10: and instead what they've delivered is a new bureaucracy, this
27:41
Speaker 10: EPA that you've referred to to administer the broken laws.
27:45
Speaker 10: The worst part about this is that this entity will
27:49
Speaker 10: be totally unaccountable. It'll be making decisions about projects that
27:53
Speaker 10: we need to keep our economy growing, to protect and
27:55
Speaker 10: create jobs, with no call into the Minister at whatsoever.
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Speaker 10: Any under these laws you've got minds that take up
28:02
Speaker 10: to sixteen years to get approved. How much worse is
28:04
Speaker 10: it going to be under this EPA. Frankly, I think
28:08
Speaker 10: there are a lot of thorns on this and it's
28:10
Speaker 10: not going to help a cost of living crisis. It
28:12
Speaker 10: won't bring down the cost of power. It's got red
28:14
Speaker 10: flags all over it, and this government needs to reassess
28:16
Speaker 10: its priorities.
28:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, taining privacy reckons, Well, look, you know there are
28:22
Speaker 1: going to be something tough of it. You'll get a
28:26
Speaker 1: yes or a no much quicker under her laws. Do
28:29
Speaker 1: you actually believe it? And the whole Nature Positive plan
28:32
Speaker 1: that she's got quietly brewing away in a back kitchen somewhere,
28:38
Speaker 1: do we need it? Well?
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Speaker 10: How could it be any quicker to get a yes
28:44
Speaker 10: or no with this new unelected, totally unaccountable bureaucracy administering
28:49
Speaker 10: the same laws that are taking forever to make a
28:51
Speaker 10: decision on anything. I just don't know how that works.
28:54
Speaker 10: That's because it doesn't. And frankly speaking, the approach that
28:59
Speaker 10: they're taking with Nature Positive is the wrong one. As
29:02
Speaker 10: you say, all of the consultation, the drafting up of
29:06
Speaker 10: laws has been done totally hidden from view. And there's
29:09
Speaker 10: a reason they don't want to have the final trunch
29:12
Speaker 10: of laws in before the election, before this parliament rises
29:16
Speaker 10: and voters go to the polls. Is that's because they
29:18
Speaker 10: don't want anyone to see what they're actually cooking up.
29:21
Speaker 10: You've got big green groups in cohots with the government
29:25
Speaker 10: trying to find ways to make it harder to do
29:27
Speaker 10: business here. If they were genuinely interested in bringing down
29:31
Speaker 10: the cost of living, protecting jobs, attracting investment, and to
29:35
Speaker 10: use their phrase, a future made in Australia by attracting
29:37
Speaker 10: manufacturing here, we'd see the laws and we'd see how
29:41
Speaker 10: much better they would be for the community and for
29:42
Speaker 10: the economy. But we haven't. And I am very alarmed
29:46
Speaker 10: by where this government's going. If they have nothing to hide,
29:48
Speaker 10: why hide it?
29:51
Speaker 1: Well? I have a little alarmed simply by the title
29:54
Speaker 1: of a nature positive plant like humans positive plan for
29:57
Speaker 1: a start. One of the things that Blips has been
30:00
Speaker 1: saying early on is that her goal is for thirty
30:05
Speaker 1: percent of the land to be protected, thirty percent of
30:08
Speaker 1: our oceans to be protected. That I mean even more
30:12
Speaker 1: parks of one will assume on land and in the
30:16
Speaker 1: ocean than we have already. Are you in favor of
30:18
Speaker 1: that target?
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Speaker 10: These targets that are thought up, not based on science,
30:26
Speaker 10: not subject to any scientific rigor, are not the kind
30:31
Speaker 10: of targets we should be signing up to. I've done
30:34
Speaker 10: a lot of reading on this thirty x thirty target
30:38
Speaker 10: and approach. I've done a lot of reading on the
30:40
Speaker 10: whole nature positive concept. Now I have yet to meet
30:44
Speaker 10: a person who wants to go about trashing the environment.
30:48
Speaker 10: They foresters, farmers, miners, land developers. No one wants to
30:53
Speaker 10: actually trash our planet for the next generation. But we
30:55
Speaker 10: have to achieve balance. They argue. If you don't sign
30:58
Speaker 10: up to these targets, then you wanted to destroy the planet,
31:00
Speaker 10: and that is wrong. That is not correct at all. Frankly,
31:04
Speaker 10: arbitrary targets don't achieve any success, don't resolve problems, and
31:09
Speaker 10: so to that end, I think we need to revisit
31:11
Speaker 10: on some of these things we sign up to. And
31:14
Speaker 10: you know what else are we going to lock up?
31:16
Speaker 10: Our national parks aren't well managed. There are having for pest,
31:19
Speaker 10: animals and weeds, so why have more of them? There
31:22
Speaker 10: is a flaw in her thinking when it comes to
31:24
Speaker 10: this sort of stuff, and we have to revisit it all.
31:28
Speaker 1: Well, there's something suspicious again, right in the title thirty
31:31
Speaker 1: percent land, thirty percent ocean. What's the magic figure thirty?
31:34
Speaker 1: There you can imagine the next selection to be thirty
31:37
Speaker 1: five and then run after that forty and then after
31:39
Speaker 1: that fifty. Jonathan Dunhim. I also want to ask you
31:44
Speaker 1: about the Tasmanian Community Fund. Right, this is set up
31:47
Speaker 1: to help Tasmanians, you know, I know, women's shelters and
31:52
Speaker 1: you know, useful things like that. They get money from taxpayers.
31:57
Speaker 1: They've used more than half a million. This is this
32:01
Speaker 1: is five hundred and fifty seven thousand dollars of their
32:04
Speaker 1: money provided by taxpayers. They actually gave it to the
32:08
Speaker 1: Yes campaign for the Voice last year Labors Yes campaign. Now,
32:14
Speaker 1: how does that work out? I saw the general last
32:16
Speaker 1: week of a swinger that's saying, wait a minute, how
32:19
Speaker 1: does this fit into your you know, your charter, et cetera.
32:23
Speaker 1: What do you make of that?
32:26
Speaker 10: Well, I'll tell you what. As soon as I saw
32:28
Speaker 10: the Tasmanian Community Fund that get many requests from worthy organizations,
32:32
Speaker 10: be they people who want to construct a shelter for
32:35
Speaker 10: women fleeing domestic violence, or an all abilities playground, or
32:39
Speaker 10: a community transport service for a remote community to get
32:42
Speaker 10: people who need health care to hospital. A lot of
32:44
Speaker 10: these sorts of groups missing out on funding. Yet the
32:47
Speaker 10: board decided to give away more than ten percent of
32:51
Speaker 10: their annual appropriation, so they get over five and a
32:54
Speaker 10: half million dollars a year from the taxpayer from the
32:57
Speaker 10: Tasmanian government to give to these projects. They unilaterally decided
33:00
Speaker 10: to give this money to the Yes campaign. I called
33:03
Speaker 10: it out at the time and I said this is terrible.
33:06
Speaker 10: I referred it to the Order to General and I
33:08
Speaker 10: was immensely pleased that they were called out by the
33:11
Speaker 10: independent Order to General. He's not a political hack. He's
33:14
Speaker 10: gone and done every bit of due diligence in his
33:17
Speaker 10: audit and found them wanting. What's worse, though, Andrew, they
33:21
Speaker 10: were warned about their processes back in twenty twenty and
33:23
Speaker 10: asked to improve record keeping and risk management. They didn't
33:27
Speaker 10: do it. They've gone and handed out this money for
33:29
Speaker 10: a purely political purpose. They've been slammed by the Order
33:32
Speaker 10: to General. Instead of apologizing and say it will never
33:35
Speaker 10: happen again, this board have said that everyone else has
33:38
Speaker 10: got it wrong, including the Order to General, and so
33:40
Speaker 10: I think the Tasmanian government needs to step in now,
33:43
Speaker 10: sack the board members, rewrite the act and ensure this
33:46
Speaker 10: limited resource of taxpayers money is going to where it
33:49
Speaker 10: needs to, the Tasmanian community, not national political and divisive campaigns.
33:55
Speaker 1: Senator dun Him, thank you so much for your time.
33:58
Speaker 10: Thanks Andrew.
34:01
Speaker 1: After the break the breakdown scene, Australian academic got zero
34:05
Speaker 1: points in the Paris Olympics and invided the nation right
34:08
Speaker 1: to the top. Plus Bruce Pasco complains to the ABC
34:12
Speaker 1: about me. I play what he says in fairness, but
34:16
Speaker 1: he does make another false, fake claim. I can't understand
34:24
Speaker 1: It's amazing. I can't understand why the ABC is still
34:27
Speaker 1: promoting fake average and Bruce Pascoe and his fake history
34:31
Speaker 1: dark imute. But yesterday the ABC's Julia Morrow ex chaser
34:36
Speaker 1: gave Pasco twenty four minutes of unquestioning airtime on Radio National.
34:42
Speaker 1: Not once did Morrow ask Pasco for proof he was Aboriginal.
34:45
Speaker 1: Not once did he ask Pasco to explain why it
34:48
Speaker 1: used fake evidence to claim average and is used to
34:50
Speaker 1: be farmers All this is now so well known that
34:54
Speaker 1: he debunked. He even let Pasco winge about me for
34:59
Speaker 1: raising a exactly these questions without either of them explaining
35:04
Speaker 1: to the ABC audience what those questions actually were.
35:09
Speaker 11: The attack was really nasty and full of vitriol and error.
35:16
Speaker 11: People were picking on bits of dark in error, quoting
35:22
Speaker 11: things that I actually didn't say. But then of course
35:26
Speaker 11: they were attacking my family, and that became very hurtful
35:30
Speaker 11: and upsetting. And so all of those you know, headline
35:36
Speaker 11: slurs in the Herald's Son and other Murdoch papers. We're
35:45
Speaker 11: obviously getting through to the family. We keep on getting
35:48
Speaker 11: urged to sue. You know you've got to sue for that.
35:51
Speaker 11: You know you'll get bloody millions. So to turn around
35:54
Speaker 11: and try and offer reason to these critics would be
35:58
Speaker 11: just a waste of breath because I actually don't want
36:01
Speaker 11: an explanation. All I want is a target.
36:06
Speaker 1: Oh I do want an explanation, Bruce. Have asked you
36:09
Speaker 1: for one, many many many times, have asked you to
36:11
Speaker 1: come on the show. I've wanted an explanation. You've never
36:14
Speaker 1: given me one. You've never corrected an error supposed error
36:19
Speaker 1: I've made about your book. And by the way, I've
36:22
Speaker 1: never ever attacked Pasco's family. And the reason Pasco's assumed
36:26
Speaker 1: is obvious. It loves It's not an aboriginale. Looking at
36:31
Speaker 1: his genealogical records joined me. Daniel Wilde, Deputy executive director
36:34
Speaker 1: of the Student of Public Affairs, Stephen Trevoua, an author
36:37
Speaker 1: and senior lecturer in history a Caampion College, Daniel, at
36:42
Speaker 1: least this time, the ABC never itself said Pasco's aboriginal.
36:46
Speaker 1: That's progress, I guess, But why does it still promote
36:50
Speaker 1: him well? Andrew?
36:53
Speaker 12: Firstly, you know, congratulations to the work you've been doing
36:56
Speaker 12: over many years in engaging in Heaven Forbid fact Finding Journal,
37:00
Speaker 12: and of course many other's professor Jeffrey Blainey probably Australia's
37:04
Speaker 12: greatest ever historian but certainly our greatest living historian, and
37:07
Speaker 12: many anthropologists that have been pointing out the serious errors
37:11
Speaker 12: in Bruce Pasco's work. In terms of why does the
37:16
Speaker 12: ABC keep promoting this well? Is to do with the
37:19
Speaker 12: fact that it promotes their ideological agenda.
37:23
Speaker 1: Let's gotch to Stephen while you clear your throat. Daniel,
37:26
Speaker 1: and I've come back for your insight because I think
37:28
Speaker 1: it was a good one and I want people to
37:29
Speaker 1: hear it. Stephen, why do you think the ABC still
37:33
Speaker 1: promotes him well?
37:34
Speaker 13: One of the problems is that academics have not come
37:38
Speaker 13: out and just said that this is a bad work
37:40
Speaker 13: of sculpture. I mean, some have, but overall, academics are
37:44
Speaker 13: really just going to sweep this under the carpet and
37:47
Speaker 13: pretend that none of this ever happened, pretend that Bruce
37:51
Speaker 13: Pasco was never sort of lauded as some great historian.
37:56
Speaker 13: But the truth is, and this has pointed out in
37:59
Speaker 13: Peter Sutton and Karen Welsh's excellent book Debunking Dark Emu,
38:03
Speaker 13: and they say Pasco's book distorts and exaggerates many old sources.
38:08
Speaker 13: It selects evidence to support the author's opinions, It ignores
38:12
Speaker 13: large bodies of evidence. It contains a large number of
38:16
Speaker 13: factual errors. Dark EMU is actually not properly considered a
38:21
Speaker 13: work of scholarship. And so it is, as you say,
38:24
Speaker 13: it's kind of known that the work has been debunked.
38:27
Speaker 13: But because so many scholars and academics basically talk the
38:32
Speaker 13: book up and talk Pasco up, they don't want to
38:34
Speaker 13: say anything now, and so what needs to happen just
38:37
Speaker 13: isn't happening, which is just a collective, a collective admission
38:42
Speaker 13: that Dark EMU is basically rubbish scholarship.
38:48
Speaker 1: Well, I think you're onto something there, Stephen Daniel, You know,
38:52
Speaker 1: I think, Look, I don't want to sound saying it's
38:57
Speaker 1: not going to help save me. I don't want to
38:59
Speaker 1: sound arrogant. I don't normally blow my own trumpet, but
39:02
Speaker 1: I got to say, I think so many people on
39:05
Speaker 1: the ABC, which is captured by the left, have invested
39:08
Speaker 1: in the pasco industry. They put videos out to schools.
39:11
Speaker 1: In the whole thing. They don't want to give this
39:14
Speaker 1: awful right wing that sitting in front of you a win.
39:17
Speaker 1: I think that's half of it. They just don't want to.
39:20
Speaker 1: I know that particular, some people have really hated me
39:23
Speaker 1: over there are pushing him hardest. They don't want to
39:25
Speaker 1: give me a win. It's as simple and spiteful as that.
39:28
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
39:32
Speaker 12: Well, that's right, and a lot of what Bruce Pasco
39:34
Speaker 12: is saying, the left activists need to be true to
39:37
Speaker 12: support their ideological allegations against our country. Of course, they
39:41
Speaker 12: believe that we are or modern Australia was founded upon
39:44
Speaker 12: violence and racism, and that we are a structurally racist
39:48
Speaker 12: country and therefore an illegitimate country. And so you know
39:51
Speaker 12: what Bruce Pasco has to say is more cannon for
39:53
Speaker 12: the fodder they do this, of course, with climate and
39:55
Speaker 12: many other debates they will grab on to any single
39:58
Speaker 12: piece of information, you know, fact or otherwise that supports
40:01
Speaker 12: their ideological view, and they'll discard it at the earliest convenience.
40:06
Speaker 12: So that's why they're not going to turn their back
40:07
Speaker 12: on Prince Basco.
40:08
Speaker 1: Now, you know, it's true, too many egos are involved
40:13
Speaker 1: in it. To the Olympics in Paris, which ended on
40:16
Speaker 1: the weekend, Steven, I mean straight came fourth in the
40:18
Speaker 1: Middle count per Capitay, we came third, you know, because
40:21
Speaker 1: it's got much smaller population behind New Zealand, Oh dear
40:25
Speaker 1: and the Netherlands. But the big talk is still about
40:28
Speaker 1: a Sydney academic calling himself Raygun, who didn't score a
40:33
Speaker 1: single point in her three rounds of the breakdowns competition
40:35
Speaker 1: at the Games. We can't show you games footage, but
40:38
Speaker 1: this other performance of hers, well, I still think it flatters.
40:40
Speaker 1: He doesn't really show you how weird her routine was,
40:43
Speaker 1: with kangaroo hops and the like. It's interesting that most
40:47
Speaker 1: people seem to agree her routine was embarrassing the amateur,
40:50
Speaker 1: but there are people still saying it was wonderful. Here's
40:53
Speaker 1: one of them.
40:55
Speaker 3: The Olympics is about people participating in sports.
41:00
Speaker 10: A good thing, and Reagan had a crack good honor.
41:04
Speaker 1: Well, Stephen, Actually the Olympics about you know, being the
41:08
Speaker 1: very very best and getting gold medals for it. But
41:10
Speaker 1: where are you on this?
41:13
Speaker 10: It's so bad?
41:13
Speaker 13: I mean the Olympics is about just having a go,
41:16
Speaker 13: as you say, No, Olympics is where you send the
41:19
Speaker 13: best that you have to compete. The Olympics goes back
41:23
Speaker 13: to seven seventy six BC and the ancient Greeks didn't
41:27
Speaker 13: just send people to have a go. It was It
41:30
Speaker 13: was an embarrassing performance. I've seen better breakdancing in school
41:35
Speaker 13: yards and people were people were vocal about it, not
41:38
Speaker 13: because she's a woman or anything like that, but because
41:41
Speaker 13: they saw something that was terrible. It represented Australia terribly
41:45
Speaker 13: and people are asking how did she make it to
41:48
Speaker 13: the Olympics.
41:51
Speaker 1: It's so true. But you know, Daniel, I mean the
41:56
Speaker 1: issue of public fairs. They've done a lot of research
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Speaker 1: of what the hell are they teaching UNI? This is
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Speaker 1: a bit that worries me most. Rachel gunn Reygun actually
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Speaker 1: teaches about quote the cultural politics of breaking with a
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Speaker 1: feminist taken at mcquarie University. Her academic thesis is thick
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Speaker 1: with theory and jargon and hard left identity politics. She says,
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Speaker 1: I'll give you a quote. We argue that Breaking's institutionalization
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Speaker 1: via the Olympics will place Breaking more firmly within this
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Speaker 1: sporting nations hegemonic settler colonial structures that rely upon racialized
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Speaker 1: and gendered hierarchies. What does that tell you.
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Speaker 12: I've got no idea, Andrew, I've got no idea what
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Speaker 12: that what that paragraph means. I know there's some words
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Speaker 12: that have been strung together there, but doesn't make a
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Speaker 12: whole lot of sense. Look, Stephen said that this was
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Speaker 12: a terrible performance. To me, it was almost two perfectly
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Speaker 12: terrible three zeros from the judges. I don't know whether
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Speaker 12: this was something that was deliberate or whether it was
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Speaker 12: a setup to raise her profile, but I've got to
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Speaker 12: say it's very strange situation, and it's just all too perfect, Andrew,
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Speaker 12: for her to be, you know, this sort of wok
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Speaker 12: academic getting taxpayer funds to get three zeros at the
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Speaker 12: Olympics for something that. Look, I have no problem with breakdancers,
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Speaker 12: but it's not really an Olympic sport. You've really got
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Speaker 12: to wonder whether there's something else going on.
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Speaker 1: Here absolutely, but in our universities. I mean, seriously, folks,
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Speaker 1: this is where your tertiary funding dollars go to. Daniel Wild,
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Speaker 1: Steve Travoura. Thank you so much for your time. I mean,
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Speaker 1: what a joke. Well after the break, Britain's Prime Minister,
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Speaker 1: this is not a joke, unfortunately, is deadly serious. It's
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Speaker 1: trying to front in Britain's who last week protested against
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Speaker 1: mass immigration. It's our thinking of adopting a new definition
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Speaker 1: of Islamophobia. Scary stuff. Britain's new Labor government is setting
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Speaker 1: a frightening example of how to scare and silence locals
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Speaker 1: who aren't keen to see their country become more islamer,
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Speaker 1: are worried about Islam itself. Now the Labor government has
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Speaker 1: just seen British nationalists and thugs. Right after the son
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Speaker 1: of immigrants from Rwanda allegedly stabbed three little girls to death,
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Speaker 1: people online falsely claimed the alleged killer was Muslim, which
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Speaker 1: is appalling and that's the government's excuse though, to now
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Speaker 1: consider adopting a new definition of Islamophobia frighteningly wide one
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Speaker 1: to crack down a free speech. There's a definition backed
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Speaker 1: by Britain's Muslim Council and an all party parliamentary group
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Speaker 1: and previously supported by Labor. Now it wants it changed
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Speaker 1: to that Islamophobia is rooted in racism and is a
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Speaker 1: type of racism. The targets expressions of Muslimness or perceived muslimness.
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Speaker 1: So what does that mean that you can't criticize expressions
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Speaker 1: of Muslimness like passengers in the Qur'an preaching hatreds of
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Speaker 1: Jews or preaching jihad. Does it mean you can't criticize
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Speaker 1: the burker or polygamy or female gentle mutilation? The some
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Speaker 1: Muslim groups doing this is an expression of their Muslimness.
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Speaker 1: Journally from London. It's broadcast of writing column siys to
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Speaker 1: correctly esther. It's like I'm rereading you know nineteen eighty four.
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Speaker 1: Have serious this Labor about having this new islamophobia definition.
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Speaker 14: Unfortunately, they are very serious. And actually when the riots
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Speaker 14: started kicking off, I wasn't mainly concerned about just the
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Speaker 14: civil and rest going on. I was concerned about the
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Speaker 14: government's reaction. And unfortunately they've proven many.
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Speaker 1: Of us right.
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Speaker 14: Even before we saw these riots happen, which was the
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Speaker 14: new Labor government is going to try and redefine words
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Speaker 14: and crack down on free speech. The fact that they're
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Speaker 14: conflating Islam of religion with ethnicity and race just shows
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Speaker 14: that not only are they just kow telling to people
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Speaker 14: that have an ulter motive or a gender, but they
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Speaker 14: don't really know what they're talking about. I wrote a
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Speaker 14: piece recently where I drew a lot of parallels with
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Speaker 14: the current riots that we were seeing seeing last week
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Speaker 14: with you know, the two thousand and six rids in
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Speaker 14: Birmingham that started between Black Caribbean communities and British Asian communities,
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Speaker 14: mainly of Pakistani heritage, and that started basically off an
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Speaker 14: unsubstantiated rumor that a black Caribbean girl was gangraried by
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Speaker 14: Pakistani men. There was no evidence of this, but the
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Speaker 14: underlying tensions between those two communities led to two days
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Speaker 14: of riots and were into the deaths of two men.
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Speaker 14: In the same way, the twenty eleven riots, you know
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Speaker 14: was started by a local black man who was killed
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Speaker 14: by a police officer later confirmed to be lawfully and
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Speaker 14: that caused five days worth of rios, with three thousand arrests,
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Speaker 14: two hundred million pounds worth of property damage, Now, in
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Speaker 14: both of those cases, you didn't have the government saying, oh,
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Speaker 14: these are far right activists, or let's crack down on
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Speaker 14: free speech, or let's tackle BlackBerry Messenger, which was the
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Speaker 14: big thing back in twenty eleven. They actually discussed the
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Speaker 14: underlying issues. They decided to talk about social cohesion and
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Speaker 14: the concerns of people living in these communities. But now
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Speaker 14: you're saying, when you have white working class Brits are
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Speaker 14: the ones protesting, the government is more concerned with cracking
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Speaker 14: down on free speech than a lot of the genuine
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Speaker 14: concerns they have about immation, about communities not integrating, living
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Speaker 14: parallel lives from British people, about you know, certain British
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Speaker 14: Muslims which are by no means the majority, but a
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Speaker 14: small enough, a significant enough section that are pushing radical
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Speaker 14: forms of Islam that are not even tolerated in Muslim
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Speaker 14: majority countries. You know, you don't have the UAE or
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Speaker 14: Saudi Arabia or a lot of these Muslim majority countries tolerating
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Speaker 14: a lot of these Islamist movements that are led by
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Speaker 14: fanatics that want to bring in a very strict form
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Speaker 14: of Islam, that want to impose a very warped form
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Speaker 14: of Sharia law and all of these things. But according
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Speaker 14: to Kirs Starmer, even trying to discuss it is going
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Speaker 14: against someone's muslimness. And unfortunately, I hate to say it,
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Speaker 14: but many of us saw the writing on the wall
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Speaker 14: when Kirstarma was elected, and unfortunately he's proving many of
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Speaker 14: us right.
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Speaker 1: Well, sure would how's it going down though, this declaration
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Speaker 1: or this suggestion.
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Speaker 14: Well, it's going to become apparent that it's completely unworkable.
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Speaker 9: You know.
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Speaker 14: They're also trying to crack down on certain types of
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Speaker 14: speech online and now English common law. The traditional of
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Speaker 14: English common law means that if something is not prohibited,
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Speaker 14: it's legal. But kids Dama is trying to pose some
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Speaker 14: sort of.
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Speaker 10: Hateful but legal.
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Speaker 14: So the information online that you would find would be
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Speaker 14: unhelpful or hateful but somehow legal, but that would give
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Speaker 14: him the grounds to ban it, which completely contradicts English
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Speaker 14: common law. And I'm surprised that a lawyer of his
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Speaker 14: standing would even suggest something like that. But I don't
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Speaker 14: see it working. It's just fraught with irregularities and inconsistency.
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Speaker 1: Well, gosh, I hope you're right. I can't believe what
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Speaker 1: I'm reading from England at the moment, but worse for
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Speaker 1: you, you're sitting in it, having to deal with it. Is
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Speaker 1: the correctly thank you so much for your time, really
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Speaker 1: appreciate it, honestly, and even Jeremy Clarks and saying, listen,
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Speaker 1: all the people I know worried about immigration, is this
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Speaker 1: really the reaction from the government, the proper one. I
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Speaker 1: don't get it. That's it from me. Coming up next,
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Speaker 1: Erry Mattson, good Night,