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NFL Week 14 MNF Showdown | Bengals @ Cowboys | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: All system's going clear, the lift up?
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  Speaker 2: What's unmember on?
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: Tyler Tambaleine here aka Totagging Tamba back for another edition
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  Speaker 1: of the Monday night Football Showdown Show Here on the
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  Speaker 1: Ship a Nation YouTube station got Hoopster title Here with
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  Speaker 1: me is always gonna break down all things Bengals at
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys and gotta bring my guy Hoopster in first, coming
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  Speaker 1: off a big day, FanDuel crusher if Vandle sucks, but
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: hoop crushes that happened, Jawan Johnson touchdown that happened. Neighbors
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  Speaker 1: sucked again, that happened, and he even got the right
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  Speaker 1: Austin Yesterday Kevin Austin got one catch for five yards.
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  Speaker 1: Calvin Austin the third only one catch for four yards,
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  Speaker 1: So hoops there? What's going on? My friend? Another another
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: Monday fun day? What's happening?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the big Coals have been spot on and I
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: haven't really capitalized on them financially, and yesterday I finally
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: fully capitalized on him. So it was nice to see that.
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: Nice to get back in the winner circle. Got a
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: I guess it's not a live final seat, it's an
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: online final seat, which I'm fine with. I don't necessarily
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: like going to the events anyway, So I'm good with
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: the strictly online portion. And then you know, took down
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: some GPPs, had a chance I needed, I needed Shakira
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  Speaker 2: to get something at the end, and what a terrible
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  Speaker 2: on a side notice like how do you run that
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  Speaker 2: up the middle and then use the time out like
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  Speaker 2: the Bills coach can just be a moron sometimes out
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  Speaker 2: of nowhere. That's we don't really need to talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, good game tonight, relatively high total. And the
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  Speaker 2: nice thing about these Cowboys, I mean the Cowboys and Bangles,
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  Speaker 2: two teams very disappointing overall this season and probably too
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  Speaker 2: the biggest disappointments, but the Cowboys still want to win.
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  Speaker 2: Jerry Jones has an ego they're playing to win every game.
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  Speaker 2: And then the Bengals I think are fine, just kind
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  Speaker 2: of slinging it offensively. So a good game and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of plays excited to break it down. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean big day yesterday, keep the momentum rolling into today.
• 2:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the nation crush. We had some people with their
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: biggest wins. Ever, we had a lot of huge ROI
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: hits like fifteen k off Low Bien's all of that title.
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  Speaker 1: I'll bring you in man. How is your Sunday and
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: another Monday? A good slate here ahead?
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  Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, Sunday was fine. I mean I didn't
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  Speaker 3: lose at all. I think probably just lost a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: so I'll always.
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  Speaker 4: Be fine with that.
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  Speaker 3: Looks like a great game tonight. Definitely shot out Hoop.
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  Speaker 3: I was laughing in the inside of me. He was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't really care to go to these.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Tamba, on the other hand, loves them, so couldn't have
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  Speaker 3: any more polar opposites there.
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  Speaker 4: Most people do.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I've been to two thanks to my man
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  Speaker 3: Rio or Rio and one and deep Water and another
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  Speaker 3: never myself, and I definitely do enjoy them as well.
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  Speaker 3: It's cool to meet people who I can totally understand
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  Speaker 3: it though he likes winning two fifty K from the couch.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, definitely with you.
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  Speaker 3: About the coach, Oh my goodness, so so tilting you
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  Speaker 3: come on side kick conversion. What they said three percent
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  Speaker 3: three timeouts, so you automatically using that time out just
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  Speaker 3: dropped your odds at three percent?
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  Speaker 4: Like what do you? What are you doing? Doug Nick
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  Speaker 4: Thurmot's so so bad. But yeah, that's for another time.
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  Speaker 3: He could we could have a whole hour segment every
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  Speaker 3: week and how bad these coaches are.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna save the next giveaway for this one. The
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  Speaker 1: day that was on the show with slick back hair,
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: show them the watch too and a little collared unit
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: on with no shipping gear nothing. What was Hoop doing
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: on that day. We'll have to have that one soon,
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: but I think.
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  Speaker 2: It now, we could do it now. We'll do you
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  Speaker 2: got anything up your sleeve, any sort of giveaway, and
• 3:38
  Speaker 2: then we'll well, you know, tell the people at that
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  Speaker 2: and it'll be a fun little bit for a while.
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  Speaker 3: That.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do a month. Let's do the night nine dollar.
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  Speaker 1: It's on for eighty five. It doesn't matter. If you
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: guys want to get in. You can get a month
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  Speaker 1: of all access with ship Devisers. So we'll do that.
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: Let's do a month of all access. We still got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of good content, a lot of good sports.
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  Speaker 1: NBA's Wide Open, another big MMA weekend in the streets
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: that we just had, like just all kinds going on.
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  Speaker 1: Golf was on last week. I know it's off now,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, let's do that. Let us know in the chat,
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: where is Hoop coming from? Dressed like he is right now,
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: got the watch decked out, the collared shirt, the slick
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  Speaker 1: back hair, the teeth showing like always the homebody Hoopster too.
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: Like title said, he's like he's happy to just staying
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  Speaker 1: at home to win a million bucks for this FanDuel event.
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  Speaker 1: But meanwhile, like you said, I'm gonna go to Nashville
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  Speaker 1: anyway and just party with everybody even though I'm not
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  Speaker 1: in the event. But yeah, it's the way she goes.
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  Speaker 4: Is a million is a million to first on fandel.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually too bad of a past strutch. There's
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  Speaker 2: only one hundred people too, which is even even nicer.
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  Speaker 4: What second third?
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  Speaker 1: Is it?
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  Speaker 4: Like five? It gets awful, that's.
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  Speaker 2: What it goes. It goes down very quick with only
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  Speaker 2: a hundred people, which was nice.
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  Speaker 1: Top four million, I think it's like four. I think
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  Speaker 1: it might be like four hundred, two fifty, one hundred,
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  Speaker 1: but still all those are phenomenal prizes and you're playing
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  Speaker 1: to win anyway, and only one hundred people. Not Sundays
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  Speaker 1: you get to sit around and get involved in that.
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  Speaker 1: So congrats again to Hoop and the rest of the community.
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  Speaker 1: A ton of big wins. You go on X at
• 4:56
  Speaker 1: ship a nation, all kinds of big scores out there.
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  Speaker 1: They're parents your conference. Freddy Prince here shout out to
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: my guy.
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  Speaker 2: Param That's actually hilarious because that's uh. People used to
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: always say that, oh, you look like Freddy Prince Sharett Junior,
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  Speaker 2: And I.
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: Was like, he says it. I kind of see it too.
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  Speaker 1: What's that movie? She's all that Hoop was out film
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  Speaker 1: and she's all that too, getting ready for it. I
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: don't even know if there is a sequel already, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what he was doing. All right, let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: this game. Let's get into the grand scheme overview and Hoop.
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: I'll let you look at the comments. I'll go to
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  Speaker 1: title first title. This is a Bengals team we've seen
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  Speaker 1: just put up points every single game, it feels like,
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  Speaker 1: and then still lose. Don't know that's gonna happen against
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys, but you could see it playing out a
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: bunch of different ways, to be honest, and I think
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  Speaker 1: for when we get to, you know, breaking down the
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  Speaker 1: captains and the roster construction, there's more nuances to it
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  Speaker 1: than just maybe the Bengals finally smack somebody up, but
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  Speaker 1: give me your thoughts on this one, because who mentioned
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  Speaker 1: it earlier too, Jerry Jones, and these Cowboys at least
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: want to win. They want to try and win. What's
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  Speaker 1: what's your first thoughts?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think both teams are gonna like try and win.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously the Bengals neither team really to play for some
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: Simpsons thing, which is why they have to have this.
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  Speaker 3: But DFS wise five points spread for the Bengals, fifty
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  Speaker 3: point totals good and a pluther of options. Like, I
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  Speaker 3: think the four highest captains will probably be Bengals, but
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be eating into each other to an extent.
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  Speaker 3: And another thing that stands out to me the lack
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  Speaker 3: of value and what that value is is a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the Cowboys people will be gravitating to.
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  Speaker 4: So I think it's pretty clear that way.
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  Speaker 3: I think balance builds three threes with a Bengal captain
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  Speaker 3: will be really popular. Any or any Dallas captain you
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  Speaker 3: put in there, I think will be relatively contrarian. Four
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  Speaker 3: two Cowboys always relatively contrarian. Don't love the five ones myself,
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  Speaker 3: obviously that'll definitely be different.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, what stands out right away is Bingals.
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  Speaker 3: I think the four highest one captains will be Jamar Burrow, Higgins,
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  Speaker 3: Chase Brown.
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  Speaker 4: Not in that specific order, just those four.
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  Speaker 3: And I think the value people again when they try
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  Speaker 3: and punt, it's gonna be guys like Jalen, tolbert Z,
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  Speaker 3: Hunter let Key, et cetera. So spending up for biggles,
• 7:03
  Speaker 3: spend down for cowboys. I think that's the obvious build,
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  Speaker 3: and you can always get different and we'll talk about
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  Speaker 3: how to do that.
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, baby, you're speaking my language. I like some of
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: the you know ideas already that you're putting in my mind.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to that and when I get to the
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: dry run, it's gonna be a very interesting one. But hoopster,
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  Speaker 1: first things first, any any early contenders. What do you
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  Speaker 1: got for these early comments? What are some of the
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  Speaker 1: good ones?
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  Speaker 2: There's a couple of good ones.
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: Oh you got the star feature on now.
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: I'm utilizing the Star now. So I like this one.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: Going to meet his new long care company. I like it,
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: but it's like pretty unrealistic because you guys know me,
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: I love cutting the grass. I don't trust any I
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: don't trust any long care company to get out there
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  Speaker 2: and do it for me. I do like this comment though,
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: and then the other one.
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  Speaker 1: Start it's not realistic.
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: I do like it though. We got to see because
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: we need we need something better, so we could potentially
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: come back to that one. Captain Neighborhood Watch just came
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: from meeting with the VAK and Elon Musk is part
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: of the dose. I would love that. I mean, if
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: that was if that was reality, I'd love to work
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: with those two. I mean, you imagine the networking ability
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: with if you got in with the back end, Elon Man, your.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: Net worth is your networking networth, that would be the spot.
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: And maybe we could to finally finally get that Sin
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  Speaker 2: logo on a rocket ship.
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: Right, that'd be the net worth to be around before
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: you go. Actually, now that you said that, I got
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: to ask title because He's title is everything every you know,
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: people don't know everything about him. He's at the poker tables,
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: He's got his hands in all these different little things.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: How much are you into the crypto scene and how
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: much of the Dogie or doge? How much of that coin?
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: Do you got a lot.
• 8:36
  Speaker 4: In the crypto?
• 8:36
  Speaker 3: That's definitely my biggest investments, and right now I do
• 8:41
  Speaker 3: have a good amount of Doze for the the meme
• 8:43
  Speaker 3: of Elon and all of that.
• 8:45
  Speaker 4: But obviously the technology base. I love Salona bigcoins.
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: Potential of if it takes off. You don't have like
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: the you didn't have the Hawk to a coin or
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: any of that stuff.
• 8:53
  Speaker 4: No not, I don't.
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't been in the memes as much people
• 8:56
  Speaker 3: are printing, but the does run from like seventeen to already.
• 9:00
  Speaker 4: I've been messing with that. I'm hugely to crypto.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: These people, these people signing up for these coins from
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: like these uh, female infercers, Like how dumb?
• 9:09
  Speaker 4: I mean the body influencers.
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: Bouncing boob girl, What do you think was gonna happen
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: when you bought her a coin? The chick that knows
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: literally nothing about sports betting, like whatsoever? Post videos walking
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: talking about bets while her tits are bouncing like essentially
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: on her face, Like of course, if you buy her coin,
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get fucking dusted. The chick talk fitting on
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: penises like hors Your ass is gonna get dusted if
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: you invest in her, Like how stupid are these pa?
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: We got to get back to the game. At least
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: people watching this probably are involved in some sort of
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: crypto in the scene, so it will still be applicable.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: But I appreciate you Title hitting that, but this might
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: be the new contender because they tied all the features
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: together that you know, you said but before you were
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: nervous about the shoeye because you're a German that kind
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: of and they remembered that and related it to the shoeye.
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: So that's a good one as well.
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: Hard it's hard, Yeah, it's we got it.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, give us your overview. What do you think is
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: going to happen here today? Yeah?
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: I mean again, like the Cincinnati side, the main offensive
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: players Burrow, Chase, Chase Brown, t Higgins, I'm imagining get
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: a majority of the ownership at the captain position. But
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: it's one of those situations where there's enough of them.
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  Speaker 2: I think Title kind of touched on it where it
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: has to get spread out a little bit because they're
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: all super appealing in their own regards, So you're going
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: to see it spread out a little bit. You have
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: options on the other side, Ceedee lamb Rico, who now
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: the workload for Rico is essentially unlimited. They're giving him
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: everything he wants. I think it was like twenty over
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: twenty five touches the last two games, but it does
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: fall off pretty quick. The mid tier, i'd say, is
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: pretty weak, and then the value is pretty weak as well.
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: So it's another one of those tough slates to get
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  Speaker 2: away I think from some of these obvious captain plays.
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  Speaker 2: So definitely excited to talk through it and see what
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  Speaker 2: you got, I think, But man, it just seems like
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: a slate where it's going to be one of these
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: top end guys that is the optimal captain tonight.
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't disagree. We'll see if you want to see
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: how the optimizer ours is ship deemizer, how it's fitting
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: that for you. But we'll get there in a second.
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: But good segue on your part. I think you always
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: look for the light in the positive in what it is,
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: and yeah, look at it. It's Burrow, it's Chase, it's Brown,
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: it's Higgins, it's you know, right, every and then Rush.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: The only reason this specifically rushes up there because people
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: are going to talk about this already. He's free, he's
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: eighty eight hundred bucks, and so when you put him
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: at the captain at thirteen to two, you're getting a
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: quarterback at the top. So I can see why he
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: would pop into those top five. But the top four
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: are Bengals, and you mentioned it almost like quarterbacks on
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: a main slat hoop, like it's just gonna spread out,
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: so you're able to still find you can play them
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: all and get leverage. If you only play four captains
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: tonight and they're all Bengals, if that's what you want
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: to do, you'd be able to get overweight on all
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: of them because they're all going to be somewhat kept
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: in check by each other. So hoop. First thoughts on captains.
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  Speaker 1: When you look at this here, now, it looks like
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  Speaker 1: Burrow anytime we can get a quarterback up top by
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  Speaker 1: his ownership, is actually coming in less than Chase Brown
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  Speaker 1: for sure, I think will be popular. Jamar Chase T
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: Higgins will probably pick up a little steam to that number.
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  Speaker 1: I actually think you could see Burrow come in fourth
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  Speaker 1: behind those three, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: What what's your thoughts, Yeah, I think it's definitely gonna
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  Speaker 2: be him fourth in terms of ownership. I mean, people
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  Speaker 2: are always hesitant to play quarterbacks up there. Jamar Chase
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  Speaker 2: obviously massive upside. Chase Brown has been great. T Higgins
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  Speaker 2: as well, So I do think it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: Burrow coming in probably fourth, and I think he could
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: come in lower than fourth overall. I think you could
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: potentially come in below Ceedee Lamb as well at the
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: captain position, and maybe maybe Rico. I mean so to me,
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  Speaker 2: Burrow could be sixth on the list in terms of
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: in terms of ownership. That's not surprising what's up there
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: like at all. I mean, there's nothing there that does
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: surprise me. If you go to Flax, I'm imagining the
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: guy that we see a bunch of is going to
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: be Tolbert.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was gonna tell you that it's Shoester
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  Speaker 1: two point oh seventy hundred total yep.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, I'm not gonna play I'm gonna do
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: this exact same thing I did with Juju because it
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  Speaker 2: worked out for a lot of people. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 2: play Tolbert at seventy five percent. I'm gonna cap it,
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  Speaker 2: probably cap it. So we haven't projected at twenty seven.
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  Speaker 2: I definitely cap that number a little bit. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: forty fifty ish potential range. You have thirty it's fine
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: just to see what happens if we kind of rerun it.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: What's what is going to happen is you're probably gonna
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: see the captain. Those expensive captains come down a little
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: bit potentially when you rerun it. And I mean, I'm
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: not playing Tolbert in the Captain's budd either. I did
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: see who was in there for for some but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean he is, what twenty eight hundred dollars? He
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: has a very friendly projection. We have him at six
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: and you know that's at twenty eight hundred. That's that's
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: a big number, especially on a slate where there's no
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: true standout value, there's not a ton that we like.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: He's gonna get in there a crazy amount. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: showing what yeah, twenty seven percent. So that's one thing
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  Speaker 2: to keep an eye on. But you know those six
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  Speaker 2: guys Burrow, Chase, Chase Brown, Higgins, CD Lamb, and Rico
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  Speaker 2: are gonna take up a bar. I mean, what are
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: we thinking like probably eighty percent if not more of
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: captain ownership. It's a big number. So you know, I
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: haven't made any decisions yet, but those guys all stand
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  Speaker 2: out to me for sure.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get I know, title we're gonna talk about this.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: I love when you break this down, it'll be probably
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: later when we get to positions of like looking at
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: the values on one side versus the other, and that's
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: usually when we're getting to flex. But we're at captain
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: right now, so I'll let you roll with it. Obviously,
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: the the you know, the one thing was the Tolbert
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: stuff is I brought up the stone Ver a second
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: just to show it. It's, you know, twenty seven percent
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: we've got them at right now, which probably is fair.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: Twenty five to thirty call it, it makes sense. But
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: there is like Turpin mingo. It's not an easy click.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying there is names when we get to
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: flex later on. But take us through your thoughts that
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: captain first, because you already brought up some of the
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: stuff around being able to flip the builds little bit
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: and if you play more Lamb or more somebody else
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: up there instead of just the standard, what's your thought
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: at the captain position.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll get to the flex. I'm definitely gonna try
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: and get a little more different.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: There, like spingles, tight ends, turpin, stuff like that as
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: pivots in that range. It's tough that, Like, I think
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: the four best captains are probably the four highest own
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Chase Brown, Chase Higgins, Burrow. The offenses look elite. I
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: feel way better with them than with Cooper Rush back there,
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: I will say the one cowboy. I don't think Rico
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: is a bad play. I don't think Ceed's a bad play.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: But they're still coming with ownership like I might. I'm
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: gonna take a page out of Hoops book. We have
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: them at what eight and ten, that's nineteen roughly percent eighteen.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: If you don't play those two that you could eliminate
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: from the field.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: I think that's my.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Approach right now, where I do like or The only
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: cowboy I think I'm going to play a captain is
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Jake Ferguson. Please don't get hurt in the first drive
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: again and have schoonmaker and break the slates five point
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: four k. The value stinks, and everyone knows value stinks,
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: But I'd be like, why not go mid tier captain
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: or lower captain? Well, it's really gross after you get
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: down from Cooper Rush, Like Gaseki, no one wants to
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: play the kickers. Maybe they run it back yesterday.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Defense is like Turpin.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: There's just no one down there that I feel good
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: about in the mid tier besides Jake Ferguson, and again
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Cooper Rush likes his tight ends. When Ferd went down,
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: it was all scoon Maker. Twelve thirteen isn't enough, probably
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: not on the captain winner. I do think sixteen could
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: be enough. Seventeen Again, the value stinks, like I'm not
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: excited to play Zeke could Jalen.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Tober get you four? Of course he can hunter lepk
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: like a third down running back.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: So the guys that people are clicking down below aren't
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: fun and you can eliminate that when going Ferguson. So
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: that's my only real hot take. I don't hate Rico
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: or CD by any means, but I definitely prefer Chase.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: He's one k more. I prefer Burrow four or less
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: than Ceedee Lamb and Chase Brown's props look really good too,
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: getting a lot of the work. So I think I'm
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: just gonna eat into the chalk more and then fade
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: the other two chalk spots which looked like Rico Lamb,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: get a little Ferguson, and that's five captains for me, which.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: I'm good on today.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say that I just fild it back
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: here to look at this real quick, like, this shows
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: the ownership. One thing this reminds me of, not necessarily
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: the game and how it's gonna play out in the
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: big over and all that. But just to say the
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: slight we just had with the what was it the
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Browns Broncos? Was that the one where everyone was on.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Nick's Yeah, and it ended up being.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Ended up being Judy on the other side, And was
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: he really did get kept in check versus the other side,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: like like Nix and Sutton still got love. People were
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: trying to make Javonte like was kind of what like
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: what Hoops said balancing out and then what you're saying
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: for if you flip it, I think you'll see Lamb
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: stay in check. Like even if it does get ten
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: or eleven, that's not much considering I think the steam
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: still goes to Chase Brown, Jamar, Chase and Higgins on
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: top of everything else. So yeah, I think there's certainly
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: ways you can flip the build. And if you think
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: to Hoop's point also, so maybe Hoop, I don't if
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: you have extra thoughts to add on this, but you
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: talked about it like if they do have the pride
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and show up, I mean there is two things to this,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I'll caveat it quickly. Is like the Bengals have been
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: getting the points scored and still losing every game that
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: they play. This would be the time that they score
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: the points and win, you'd think. But if the if
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys can stay within it, then you can flip
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: those builds because it will help you fit more and
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: change it up quite a bit if you go four
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: two three three two four whatever you want to do.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: So is there just any thought around that stuff as well?
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it depends. You know, you really have
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: to figure out how you envision this game being played.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I mean the Bengals, like you said, their defense has
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: been terrible and they're scoring a shit ton of points,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: but they're just giving up more. I mean, teams are
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: just doing whatever they want. Who is the team? Was
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: it the I can't I'm drawing the blank on the
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: last game where it's just was it oh Pittsburgh, right, yeah, Pittsburgh.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Russ Wilson, Uh just just went off. So, I mean,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: bad offense is going to have a ton of success
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: here and everyone's going to be going Bengals heavy, like yeah,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't hate the approach going Cowboys heavy.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: That's one way to flip. I mean, if you run
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: any sort of team today and don't change anything, you're
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: getting probably a minimum three Bengals, maybe four, maybe five.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: In teams, they're just an appealing team. I guess the
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: one outlier is obviously Tolbert, who is just you know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: too cheap and kind of projecting well. But I don't
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: hate flipping it where you go Cowboys heavy approach. I
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: could definitely envision the Cowboys winning this game and scoring
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: a lot of points, Like I could definitely see that
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: happening today. It's a team, like, you know, very disappointing
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: outcome so far for Dallas and Cincinnati. But that's the
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: reason why we bet a lot of money, or at
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: least I did on the Cowboys on Thanksgiving, because they're
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: still wanting to win games. A lot of teams that
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: fall into these like disappointing seasons, seasons over type things,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: they kind of just give up. Cowboys just will never
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: do that, and it's something to take advantage of. So
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I don't hate potentially flipping it here and going Cowboys
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: heavy approach on some teams, Like it's probably good if
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: you're like you do building sets to take a set
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: of teams and focus on, you know, a score where
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys put up a ton and win the game.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think my set is gonna be if the
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Bengals finally show up and just win a game and
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: score all those points and the other team doesn't, I'm
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: definitely gonna have some of those tonight with You'll get different,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: hopefully get different that way, because if the other the
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: thing about the Tobert percentage, I will say, and then
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: we'll get to quarterback, running back and some of the
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: position by position stuff. But the one thing I look at,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: or the way it first hits my mind thinking about it,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: where am I at here? Go back to lineups, exposures
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: flex We didn't adjust it and rerun it yet, but
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: no need really just we already know what we're talking about.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying when I see that, that just leads
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: me to believe that, like the four to two is
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: super heavy, Like it's got to just be Bengals four twos,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and then after that even Bengals three threes. People are
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: able to fit in Cooper Rush and some of the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: other guys, no problem. So it just it just has
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: to be that way. So I think the five ones
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: no matter it doubles on your point, who because even
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: if those Bengals are popular, how many of those Bengals
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: lineups are five ones? And it's always a smaller percentage.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: You're typically a smaller percent I would probably say it's
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: under fifteen percent of the lineups right down the field
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: will play it that way. So that's another way to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: get different. You can get leverage on them as captains
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: and then get leverage on the lineup style or the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: type of build. So I certainly think that's another way there.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Title anything else you want to add, Man, we sort
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: of ran through it all now, but anything else at captains.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Just so the quarterback stuff just a little bit in
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: like the flex, because I am going to be playing
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: a lot of Chase Burrow, Chase Brown Higgins in lineups
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: that like, I'm playing one of those four a captain,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: and I'm probably playing another one of those bingals. I
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: do like not like fading the other two or at
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: least one of them and then saving money with a
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Rico or Cooper rush and the flex that way, So
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: then you're at least leaving one K plus in most teams,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: like just say you go Chase up top Burrow instead
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: of playing Chase Brown or Higgins. Maybe I'll go Rico
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: there or Cooper Rush there or something like that. I'm
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: just because I am getting Chalky at captain. I'm trying
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: to look at where I can save money, a decent
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: amount of money and still see them being able to
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: outscore where you're dropping from.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: And I think that's where I look right now. Of
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: course we're gonna get to some of them value.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I'm like, we'll get to running back Zeke. I'm not
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: playing any Zeke in termins. He stinks I can pivot elsewhere,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. But that was the one takeaway. I'll
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: be more Bengals Captain, but the Rico Cooper Rushes for
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: the flex, I think I will have a decent amount
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: of because you can leave salary off the other top guys.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll definitely have Rico Lamb, probably less Rush to
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: be honest, I know he can spread it out, but
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: it's like he looks pretty I think he could even
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: see some steam as the Cowboys captain that people prefer
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: just because he's so cheap and easy to set it up.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: But I still like Lamb and Rico Hoop. You made
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: a good point in the Rico stuff, and it will
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: be in that type of set for sure for me.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: But I would just say, man, it's maybe it's a
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: product of it's Ezekiel Elliott and other people behind him,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: but they just they're not giving the ball to nobody else,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and why not try and keep Burrow off the field
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and keep that high powered offense running on all cylinders down.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: They got Chase Brown, Jamar Chase T. Higgins, like, just
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: do what you can to try and keep him up
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the field. I don't know if they're that smart, but
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: they should do that. If they do get away with it,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: it's probably doubt all. Plus, he can fall into the box, right.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: You can see these Bengals guys make mistakes on defense,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: leave some openings and have doubt'll fall in a couple
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: of times. So I guess I got some interest in him,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: but Lamb is probably the preferred cowboy. Anything else from you?
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: If not, you could take us into just running back
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: as a whole as a position. We spent some time
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: at quarterback up top.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I guess I don't know. The more
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: we kind of talk through it, it just seems like a
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: slight where one of these dudes just absolutely goes off.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time we said this, but
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: it just seems like someone's going off in a really
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: big way, whether it's like Jamar, Chase Higgins, you know,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: any of those Bengals guys we are talking about, Ceedee Lamb.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. Maybe now I'm thinking about for Captain,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: like I need guys that can just go nuclear, and like,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: to me, Rico could could potentially be like the odd
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: man out because I think he's fine. I think the
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: workload's good, but like, can he really just go off?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he can. So I don't know,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of having second thoughts on him.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: What about Lamb?
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Just curious stry to cut you off, but just at
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: the same pot Yeah, I think I think, like I
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: part of me now that I'm thinking through it doesn't
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: kind of like I kind of like what title's saying,
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: where you know, maybe you just eliminate because I just
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: feel like it's gonna be a Bengals guy, one of
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: those dudes that just goes off.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Maybe eliminate Rico up top and CD and you're getting
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: ready to you know, potentially twenty percent there I don't
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: hate that. I mean, if you're if you only want
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: to get rid of one, I definitely feel better about
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: getting rid of Rico up top opposed to CD Lamb.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: But you know, we'll see when when I get in
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: there and build, and obviously you know shortly after the
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: show everything will be updated on the website. But I
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: just think it's a slate where someone's going nuclear like
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: a massive lamb.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Because it's to your point. Now you made me start
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: thinking and overthing. I'm like, wait a minute, he might
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: get you like ten for eighty Yeah, Like is that
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: still enough because the other side they do smack him
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: up for thirty plus or whatever. It's like, it's gonna
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: be one of those dudes, probably, But I guess the
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: only caveat to that is if the Bengals spread it
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: out and then it's but even then it's still probably Burrow.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Yea burrow. Yeah, then you got Burrow out there to
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: kind of protect against it. So yeah, I don't know.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I could go as low as four and just I mean, yes,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: those Bengals guys are getting the owner's step, but if
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: you're only playing just those four, it's very easy to
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: get overweight on any of them if you want, so,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know that's something I could potentially do. But
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: in terms of flex, I mean the quarterbacks, yeah, I
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: mean whatever you can get in there. Definitely. We love
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Burrow and then Cooper Rush. I mean solid price tag
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: for him. The other running backs just not excited at all.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, yes, Chase Brown, yes, Rico. In the flex,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I do not want to click Ezekiel Elliott's name. I
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: don't want to click Herbert's name. I mean it's not
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: even like Herbert's cheap. He's twenty four hundred, like that's
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: like that's low. But it's like you still, it's got
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: to do a little something. So I don't know, I
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: might just just be playing Chase Brown and Rico in
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: regards to the running backs, like I don't really want
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: to click anyone else's name.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'll go to you in a sec title
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: on the running back stuff because you know we talked,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: but a little. But the other thing just to your point, now,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: who even looking at the stone because I forgot to
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: head it up. I wanted to bring it back for
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the show. All these captain ownerships are just so in
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: check and all their optimals are much higher than even
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the cowboys that have love. It's like Lamb Dowt'll out
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Rush popular and out. I also think I think Rush
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: gets more steam. We'll have to wait and see. But
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: he's just so cheap at the spot that if people
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: go there. Plus I've looked at some of the builds
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: pre show, so I will just say that is a
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: way to do it. And if you have twenty five
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty five twenty five, you're in great shape.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: And you can also even build within that twenty five percent. However,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: you want to build some five to one, some three
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: three some stuff that's a little bit different two fours,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: So it gives you a lot of outs that way
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: where people, oh, the Chalkier Captain got there. But if
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you see it the way you're seeing it, that would
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: be the way to build it. So I like that
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: title go to you at the running back position. You
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: mentioned like old Hunter there, and you know we know
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Chase Brown, Dadell and those guys, But well, what's your
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: thoughts here? Because Hunter's four hundred bucks.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I think at cost he might be my favorite running
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: back on the slate that costs in that ownership, because
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: I mean zeke i think is probably the worst play
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: in the slate. Can bookmark that later when he breaks
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: the slate. He ran, yeah, nine snaps.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: He is not breaking a slate. Okay, I'm gonna I
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: will go I will go ahead. We can go ahead
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: and lock that in right now. Zeke is not going
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: to break a slate.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: The problem is Covey was on the winner with the zero,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: so Zeke with four. It's not like it's does that
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: qualify as yeah, okay, right right, that breaks the slate
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: in my opinion.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: And yeah, but.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Lefky so Zeke nine snaps last week left Key thirty
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: two like, and he's building the lineup. Put Zeke in,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: takes z out, Zeke out go lef Key. Now is
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: this lefty guy good? He's whatever? He could very well
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: get you zero. You pull up the game log, that's
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: most of what you see. Thirty two snaps, though he
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: has like he's more likely to get some receptions solid
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: blocker can get out to the flat. He's like another
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: tight end essentially, and he's absolutely free and values tough
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: on this late so he's.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Probably at cost my favorite, I'm not playing Zeke. He's terrible.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Rico Chase Brown fine plays you know what you're getting
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: with them, true RB one workloads. But what I'm curious
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: about is, like the Bengals are out of the playoffs,
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: they really don't have much to play for. Chase Brown's young,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: he's good, he's explosive. He's got to be a part
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: of their future. Clil Herbert's probably not a part of
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: their future. Jal and Tolbert's right above him projected way
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: better with all the ownership. He's plus four fifty to score.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: He doesn't have a rushing prop. I just don't know
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: teams that are eliminated. Like, I'm gonna play some Clil Herbert.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I'm talking all these
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: chalk captains for the Bengals. You gotta get different some way.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Very well could get a zero. But once you go
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: and talk about it, some of these other values down there,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: any of these guys really can get you zero. So yeah,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna play some Khalil Herbert. It's scary, but ownership
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: it's not that scary.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I wrote a note down Ky Herbert atd I had.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I wrote three names down during our show yesterday. Of
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: course did not bet this, but Hoop said, you want
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Johnson's scoring a touchdown title was selling me on something
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I already loved, which is Mike Wilson, because I was
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: on Kyler and I even had stacks set up with
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: like him and McBride, so like, okay, that one feels good.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: And then I was like, man, I think if it
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: ain't if it ain't Hurts and it ain't Barkley, I
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: think Calcatara can score a touchdown. Those three down and
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: all score. All three of them scored, and they were
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: all like plus four plus five hundred. Maybe Wilson was
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: a little less, but either way, that would have been
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: a very nice anytime touchdown. Parlay and Herbert would make
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: sense to leverage up the chase. Brown will still have
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: a big game, and it's a great spot. But what
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: if he just falls in one. That could be a bag.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: All the stuff if he scores, Higgins not scoring chases
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: and scoring more than likely Burrow unless he throws it,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: like all the leverage on that side.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: It's like him versus Zeke. It's double the price, but
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: it's probably nice.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Herbert terrible.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I'm with you there, so I guess, yeah,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I have to think about him. I never really thought
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: about that, but it is super leverage. I love the
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: hunter call. I think others will, but not enough. Like
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: if he's your twelve percent on guy, your fourteen percent
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: on guy, it's like, yeah, he's four or bucks and
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: makes it all work. But if he gets to like
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: thirty percent, then it's like, Okay, that build is just
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: gonna be tough. You'll have to do it with fifteen
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: hundred bucks on the table or something. It's n it's
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: a harder nun again, No, slate, don't take us the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: wrong way. No, no shoutout, showdown. Slate is hard to
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: leave money on the table, I'm saying, but tonight, if
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: you were. I know people out there handbuilding, I know
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: it's hard to leave money because they can just get
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: these payoffs. They can fit four of these studs and
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: use a hunter and still feel like their fifth piece
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: is so strong. But then they don't realize that's putting
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: them in, you know, backing them into a corner of
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of the same build. So I think that's
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the other thing that I want to bring up.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I definitely want have anything else to add it. Running
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: back the doubtele stuff I think is the most interesting.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think people are shying away though. At nine
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: K then the biggest piece for me hoop and then
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I'll kick it to you to take it to wide
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: receiver is Dowbtell is two hundred bucks more than Rush.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I know our ownership shows pretty close, But do you
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: think there's any opportunity there at all where like, you know,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: more people do get to Rush because they have Tolbert
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: and they think that makes more sense, or to more
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: people play Doubtle there because they say, you know, DOUBTL
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and Tolbert's the guy that catches a few passes doesn't
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: really hurt me.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: What do you think it's tough? I mean, I think
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: it's probably pretty equal. I mean the projection show up
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: being pretty equal in terms of ownership, and then you
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: start thinking like correlation type stuff. Obviously, you know Cooper
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Rush will correlate better with like Ceedee Lamb Captain Teams
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: who's getting some ownership. Rico doesn't really match up with anyone,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: So I do I do think maybe Rush gets a
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: little bit more. I don't think it would be massively
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: a massive difference so between the two and I don't
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: really see any sort of like opportunity you know, quarterbacks
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: are always nice in the flex. I mean they touch
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: the ball essentially every play unless they're doing like a
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: wildcat or something like that. So I think people always
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: do lean a little more quarterback in the flex when
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: it comes to this. But again, the you know, the
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: ownership kind of shows that and it probably holds true
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: somewhere in that range.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Damn, we got a mid show mid show issue here, boys,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I gotta double check this, see if it's right. Oh man,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I just was checking it for fun. Guess what it's
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: a day before birthday. For the day before birthday, always
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: say it's got to bring the narrative in quick. Guess
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: whose birthday tomorrow? Joe Burrow Baby, Okay, Jo the road quarterback. Man,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be spread night. He's gonna try and
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: run some in. He's gonna try and get the birthday love.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: So you find it any angle where you can pump
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: up a quarterback, captain you take. I do appreciate that.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: That's what it is turning into a bit now all right,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: birthday bit? Sorry about that, but I just had to
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: bring that up. That's interesting. So anything else there anything
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: else at running back? If not, who go to go
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: to wide receiver there, Uh.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, wide receiver.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: So I mean the Bengal side very simple. I mean
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Chase Higgins and yeah, Chase Higgins and Yoshi at forty
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: four hundred, and I think Yoshi's fine play and bright
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: those Burro captain teams that you're talking about. He's a
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: guy continues to get the red zone looks. I know
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: he got one last time I played. I can't remember
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: if he converted it, but they were definitely definitely looking
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: to him in the red zone and they continue to
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: do so. I think he's a really good place specifically
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: in those Borough captain teams. And like you said, you
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: know Burrow's birthday tomorrow, might want to spread it out
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: and run one in so and maybe one to Chase,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: one to Higgins, one to Yoshi and then he runs
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: one in and that's the Borough captain sort of team.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: But like I said, the Bengal side is very easy.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: It's those three Dallas side gets a little more complicated.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: We like Ceedee Lamb, but it's a big price tag
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: at ten to six. You know, Brandon Cooks is back
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: seven k. Big price tag for Brandon Cooks and then
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Tolbert is going to be very very popular. I think
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: it's higher what we're showing twenty seven. I think it
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: could get more just because we don't have much value.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: He is showing up as a really good value because
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: he's projected way higher than everyone else in his range.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: So be careful with those Tolbri Captain teams. Turpen's fine
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: at four K and then I guess maybe Mingo. I mean,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I'd probably rather play Mingo than some of those cheap
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: running backs, to be honest with you. So the Dallas
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: situation a little a little more muddy, Cincinnati situation very
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: very clear.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jonathan Mingo got to add him to the mix.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I like that call there.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Actually yeah. I mean they're giving him some looks like
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: down the field in that last game, and there's probably
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: like no reason not to continue down that path. So
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, I don't mind him.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Don't forget. It's part of your your your pride. Pitch
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: over there for Jerry Jones is they gave away more
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: for him than other teams gave away for like DeAndre
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Hopkins and some of the other dudes, so that they
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: got to make Jonathan Mingo a thing is when do
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: they do it? It could be when they're down, but those
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: points still count.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Four targets last week. Now that I look at that,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I like it even more. I mean four targets for
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: twenty two hundred a team that could be trailing. Like,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I'm very interested in Mingo now that I saw that, Jonathan.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Mingo, it is all right, title. What's your thoughts down here?
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: You were talking about it earlier. This is where we
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: could move some value around. I kind of like, hoops,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: yoshibass call too. I do remember they were still looking
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: for him last week, and you know you could. It
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: may not fully turn out. It might be one play
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't get enough out of it or something.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: But if he gets two or three shots or an
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: end zone crack at it or something and gets there,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: that's a pretty good value too. So what's your thoughts
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: on that one?
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Yoshibos stands out as I'm saying, favorite receiver, and there's
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Chase Higgins CD, but looking at the ownership on him
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: and like there's all.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: The clarity in the world. He's by far the wide
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: receiver three.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Whereas we go to the Cowboys situation, I don't know
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: what in the world's going on.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, so the Mingo.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Stuff like he got twenty six Naps, Turpin fourteen, Coochs,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: thirty Brooks twenty three.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: But we have to remember CEED left that game near
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: the end.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: I think it was like two drives, maybe two and
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: a half drives where CD did come back, so he
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: only was sixty seven percent, And that's when a lot
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: of those Mingos, Turpins, Brookes the world rotated more. Jaylen
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Tolbert by far is the most underpriced, like he's by
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: clear wide receiver two next to CD, plays almost all
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: the snaps.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know why he's priced down there, so, to.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Be honest, even if I knew he was thirty percent,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: it's one of those spots where I'm fine playing thirty percent.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: I'm playing fine playing forty percent, and then trying to
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: get different in other spots.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: But again it's how chalky are you? And you have
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: to pivot, et cetera.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Like I'm more inclined maybe to play with the fer
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: team who's already lower owned, et cetera. I don't know, man,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I think Mingo's fine, Turpin's fine. I like Cooks, but
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: his price is elevated. That'll keep his ownership down, though,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: so I will definitely buy into the overspending for Cooks.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Who's on the field, Turpin Mingo, I feel like they
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: might get zero. We're gonna get to like the Drew
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Samples of the world, Tanner Hudson's.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Of the world.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: I will say I do prefer those Bengals tight ends
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: over this Russian Roulette wide receiver room with the Cowboys
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Bengals really easy.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Higgins, Chase Yoshi. I don't know, Tam, can you help
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: me out with any of this stuff, because.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think play fifteen, Yeah, some play makes sense.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Your really good shape up of the last game, because
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people probably forgot about that. Remember,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: everyone's like, what where's Lamb, What what's going on? Is
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: he injured? Like why is he not playing? And all
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: that stuff, and that mattered. Plus I believe was it
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: last game or the game before that was Cooks's first
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: game back? I thought it was last last game? Yeah,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: last game, so you already had that to deal with too.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: That kind of gave us a little bit of what
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: was going on. So I think, you know, the callouts
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: are good. I think Yoshi vas is super interesting, especially
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: because I just looked at it too. And one thing
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I want to note is with Yoshi Vas and the flex,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: if you could take like a at that point, you
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: could take a Chase team down to Higgins or you know,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: down to a Chase Brown and just leave three grand
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: on the table, and it's no different. It's you're just
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: saying Yoshi Vas eats one of their lunch. But in
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: the in most cases, you're gonna hope that it's Chases
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: because it takes it down to Higgins and saves you
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: all the money where you could still get unique and
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: have a lineup. That makes a ton of sense if
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: that just goes that way, and we've seen it happen,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: especially in these primetime games where that can go that way.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Obviously you're gonna have your Jamar Chase teams up top
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: where he has a two touchdown game, or Hoop talked
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: about just breaks the slate, then you're gonna need that,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: so that makes sense. On the other side, I think
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I still lean into what Hoop had said and you
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: framed it all up. But it's like I think Lamb cooks,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: and then I feel best actually about probably Mingo, even
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: though Tolbert is the better on paper play. It's just
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be looking for the alternative to try and
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: get different, and you could see Tolbert have three for
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: forty and like pretty solid and you're feeling good about
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: that at that price. And then you could see Mingo
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: have like a forty yard touchdown at the end of
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: the game in garbage time and goodbye to though again,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: maybe you need both, but probably not with like a
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: seven out of Tolbert. And if that happens, that's a
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: huge leverage piece right there. You may have to wait
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: all game for it. But it reminds me of some
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: of the other stuff we've seen in this in season
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: of like a one Dale Robinson Slayton sucks. I knew
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna be Slaton and then bang three catches
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: for eighty in a touchdown. It's game over for wand
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Lay's you know, five for sixty or something the good game.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: So I could see that as well. I don't know, who,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: do you got any more clarity for us and breaking
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: it all down now just anything you heard from all
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: that stuff.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is tough with the Dallas guy
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: unless you're playing Cooper Rush captain. Like, if you're playing
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Cooper Rush captain, I think these guys do make, you know,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: more sense. It is kind of a toss up. You know,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play the Dallas guys. I'm going to keep
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: him in the pool, but I definitely want to limit
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: you know, how much I get of each But if
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: you are playing Cooper Rush Captain, I think all these
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: guys make a little more sense. I mean, it's just
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: not a clear situation on Dallas. But something tells me
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: with Mingo that they're going to continue to get him work,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: like four targets last week. You know that definitely stands out.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, it's it is a tough situation.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's probably the least clear situation on the slate.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: The Dallas wide receiver.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Group helps make for a good showdown slate. That's why
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: we like legitimate, like roster construction thoughts, even in a
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: single entry or something tonight, if you're playing a qualifier
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: or something that and you know that Tolbert maxes out
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: your salary and you're like, well, obviously I rather him.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: He projects better. But the boys were talking about Mingo.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: You just want to take a shot, trust us and
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: know that we're saying it's not a lock or something
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: This is a risky move, but it's a good move
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: for tournaments and for leverage, and especially if the rest
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: of your lineup is chalky or your captain is chalky
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: or something like that, where you could get different that way.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: So I actually think it's interesting. And before I stay
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: with you hoop on tight end, I'm going to retract
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: one thing for sure that I said, because now the
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: more I look at it, and I just if I
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: catch it over the slight, I'll always talk about it.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: But BurrH Okay Brown, Chase talking Captain here, Brown, Chase, Higgins, Burrow,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Lamb probably doubt. I actually don't think Cooper Rush is
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: getting steamed nearly as much in the Captain as I
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: originally thought. I think it's gonna be. He'll be popular
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: in flex because he's affordable. But man, I actually think
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: you can really get different. You're getting a quarterback up
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: top at one of the cheapest prices all season where
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: we've seen we love quarterbacks at cheap prices, like that's
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: why they've getting pushed to the top. And tonight you
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: got a way and that that has to make the
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: other stuff get different. Now it's not as crazy if
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: you have a imagine you got a rush captain and
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: a Mingo flex.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be the rush captain stuff has to
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: be very low because people are looking at Cincinnati, they're
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: looking all the Cincinnati guys, they're looking at Cede Lamb,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: and if they're not playing one of those or even Rico,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: if they're not playing one of those top six, they're
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: just gonna come down. And it's gonna be like a
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Ferguson or something crazy like a kicker captain or something
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: along those lines, like they're immediately gonna drop down instead
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: of staying in that range.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, yeah, it just looks more and more
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: like that every time I look. They still project out
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: well and you can do some you can do some
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: interesting stuff. You can do some three threes which lead
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: with the Dallas captain their quarterback for this matter, or
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: you could do some two fours. You could just pair
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: him with a receiver. Hope he spreads it out a
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: little bit. But that the you know, the Chase Browns,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: the Burrows, the Jamar Chases, the Higgins of the world
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: do more than someone like I am in the flex.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, this isn't just me right, but no, he
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: throws up.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: Who here we go.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, just it's the thumb. It's the hand. When the
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: hand goes up, it freezes for some reason. What it is? Yeah,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: you volume, everything's totally good.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: All right, Well you guys take it away. I'll try
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and fix the camera. Everyone wants face.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Of course we know exactly. That's why they're here for sure,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: and nothing to do with what you have to say.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: It's all checking out that pretty face. Tight end. Got
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Ferguson at five to four, we got Jasecki at fifty six,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: and then we have the chief guys, and the Cincinnati
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: chief guys have been getting some work. I mean Hudson
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: at two k, Sample at sixteen hundred, and I guess
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: this kind of plays into like the Burrow Captain teams
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: where he spreads it out because he uses all these
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: tight ends. They've been using him. At one point in
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: the season was all Jasecki. Well they've got away, gotten
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: away from that, and Tanner, Hudson Andrew Sample are now
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: more involved. You said you like Ferguson early on Scoon
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Maker very you know, very good, rotten with Ferguson out,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I mean anytime Ferguson goes out, Schoon maker has been
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: very productive, but he has a real price tag at
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: thirty four. So thoughts you're at tight end?
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no schoons for me, just Ferguson.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: If the schoon is like two k, like Sample and
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: the Hudsons of the world, I could get some your
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: span Ford. Unfortunately, I'm not sure he's in play anymore either.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: But I give you all three of these Bengals guys
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: like at their price. Kazeki's the most expensive, but I
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: think he's by far the best receiving tight end. They're
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: like they have like he's like a wide receiver. Sometimes
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: in the slot they'll give him red zones looks five
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: point six K. His ownership will be low for sure.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Ferguson's two hundred less projects way better. The kickers will
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: be more popular, et cetera. So Kazki and like you said,
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: I think all these Bengals guys are even better in
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Burrow captains, but Sample and Tanner Hudson too drew Sample
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: plays a lot more snaps. So how the snaps went
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: last week for the Bengals thirty nine, Sample twenty seven,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Kazaki twelve for Hudson. They do on two tight end
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: sets Hudson only twelve and Sample thirty nine. You'd expect
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Sample to be a way better play. Sample's by far
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: a blocking tight end, like he doesn't have much upside.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: I actually still prefer Tanner Hudson, even with a lot
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: less naps. He had four targets converted all of them,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: just a much better. When he catches the ball, can
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: turn up field, can do something. But I will be
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: playing all three of them. And that's a lot of
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: the reason why, Like I'm not playing Zeke down here.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Give me any of these Bengals tight ends over him.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: I think for strong as well. I will be hoping
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: one tight ends on the winner today.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bengals guys, so Jiseki was five for five
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: for fifty three, Hudson was four for four for twenty eight,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Sample two for two for eight yards. So they converted
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: every single target last week against against Pittsburgh. So these
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: guys when they get looks, they take advantage of the situation.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: So I'm with you. I wish Scoonmaker is a little cheaper,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: because I would play him if he was a little
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: bit cheaper. But the thirty four, like you know, we
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: use this term a lot, but you gotta at least
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: he's gotta gotta do like a little bit of something
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: at thirty four. A lot of these cheap guys like
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: you know, four or five points probably good enough, but
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: he's got to kind of do something at thirty four,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: and it likely would take like a Ferguson another Ferguson
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: injury for him to pay it off. So they don't
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: love that price tag.
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: But quick like when when all three of them were
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: in week eight, nine to ten, fer played eighty four
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: eighty two to seventy five percent of snaps, span Ford
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: was outsnapping schoon Maker by a good bit nineteen to two,
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: sixteen to one, eleven to six.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: That has to be it has to be like just
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: a big time blocker. I'd as soon as right.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, some schematic way, yeah is what I'm thinking too.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: That's really again, I'm not going to be really messing
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: with any of it. If you play one hundred and
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: fifty teams, you have two percent that could be overweight.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Most people aren't doing that. But yeah, I want to
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: see how it looks this week before anything next week.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: But yeah, interesting, yeah, all right, take us into kicker defense.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: I imagine just pulling it up here that not much
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: interest in in defense from the field. We have a
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: very high total in this game, right around fifty two.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Defenses that have been absolute shit all season long, I
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: mean team scoring at will four k for the Bengals,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: thirty six hundred for Dallas. Again, ownership looks looks pretty low.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: And then we have two kickers that well, that Cincinnati
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: guy's different today in New York at forty eight, yeah,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: and then Aubrey at five K. Guy that you know
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: last year was just banging fifty yarders like at will,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, super impressive. This year has been a little
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: bit different. Thought. It looks like they're gonna be equally
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: owned as well. It looks like the defenses will be
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: equally equally owned. Probably mid teen range. We're showing Bengals
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: twelve for showing Cowboys ten, so I guess, you know,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: lower double digits, and then both kickers probably in the
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: twenty range, twenty two and then twenty for Aubrey. What
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: are your thoughts at kicker and defense?
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: Like both defenses will be in the pool.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: It's really hard to get excited about them, just like
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: knowing the game fifty total, et cetera.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: But they're going to be so low owned.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: And because I am eating a lot of chalk at captain,
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: that is one way that the chalk can get their
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: defense low own. In the flex, you'll eliminate a lot
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: of duplicates that way, and again just takes one play.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: I do favor Cowboys defense over Bingles defense due to
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: them being at home better passed rush.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: Just look at the stone right here. Cowboys defense hasn't
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: been terrible.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Pingles defense has been awful, So even with Cooper Rush
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: versus Burrow, I prefer Cowboys defense and their upside. If
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: having to choose kickers, I look at them very similar.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: I will say, I don't know, I'm curious to hear
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: your thoughts on this. Teams like this that really have
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: nothing to play for. I know they want to win,
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: but like a decision to go forward on fourth and four,
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I think it's a little easier when you know the
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: implications aren't like you're not going to lose your playoff spot,
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: whether it's when you might lose your playoff spot. So
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: if you think these coaches, I mean McCarthy's a donkey
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: who knows but side on the like, they'll side with
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: aggression when they're not playing for as much.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent agree with you. And that's a
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: really good point. Something I really didn't think about, Like
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: the fourth and threes. You know, in a close game
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: where it might be a field goal, you probably go
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: even the fourth and fives, Like you see it now.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I do think it is the Dan Campbell effect.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I mean he's kind of pushing these coaches in this
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: direction in general. He's doing it with a shit ton
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: on the line, you know, potential Round one buys, you know,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: home field advantaged out the playoffs, like he's getting risky.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: You're seeing more of these coaches do it, and especially
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: in a spot where, uh, the game really doesn't matter.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, these teams are both dead at this point.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: You can definitely see them being more aggressive, which is
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: certainly a downgrade for the kicker position. That's a very
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: good point.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And again like if it's fourth and eight and
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: they'll they'll probably boot a fifty other But also Greg Olsen,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: I believe it was talked about it two weeks ago
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: in the Vikings Cardinals game. If anyone's really curious to
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: go back and watch a long story short like going
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: up six when you're up three to make it up six.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Same exact thing happened with the Rams game yesterday against Buffalo.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Like being up six versus three with so much time
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: on the clock sometimes even works against you because you
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: know you're gonna go forward on every fourth down. Time
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: at that point doesn't mean as much, where like three
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: points versus six isn't nearly as different as you go
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: up and make it two scores games over. We saw
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: again yesterday at the Rams. Thought it was a very
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: good call. McDermott moved him back, they chipped away the
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: extra couple of yards. They went four on fourth and six.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: The Cardinals did not against the Vikings. It was a
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: very bad analytics move. I saw on Twitter seventy three
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: percent to win dropped on the sixty two percent on
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: that one field goal.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: So I just will never understand.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, if I was a coach, first thing I
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: ever do, I'm gonna find the smartest analytics guy. I'm
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: gonna put his ass in the up up top in
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: the thing, and he is gonna tell me everything before
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: I make a decision.
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: Fifty five to forty five, I'll go fig you can
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: use your mind like these guys.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Still, these guys literally still think they're smarter than the numbers.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: They really, they truly do. These coaches, I mean that's
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: the only explanation. They think they have to be the
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: smartest guy in the room and they think they're above
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: all that shit. That's I mean, that's the honest truth ego.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: And you can see why the Ravens harball all like
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: they do have an Adelus guy out there when they
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: went for it, like with a minute and a half
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: left in the second quarter, be right before halftime.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: Everyone else kicks that ball.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: No, they didn't kick it because they will pick up
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: that one yard otherwise they're probably gonna get a field
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: goal anyway, because they moved there like they moved the
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: ball on them so much. So it's insane, man, It's
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: really is insane.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: It is wild. I mean it's Baltimore. Maybe for people
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: that do what we do, it's like a little more
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: like common sense and they're not like digging into it
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: as deep when the shit happens during the game. But
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: it is, uh, it's wild to me. But it has
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: to be the ego, and the ego gets in the
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: way of a lot not only in this industry, uh,
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: you know, all over the place in different industries, but
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: these football coaches, they just have to bills.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Yesterday, you worked all those players working that hard for
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: one coach, stupid dude to call time out to limit
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: your chances.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: Whatever was the three You need an on side kick.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: You think you're rushing it in okay, you think you're
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: gonna get in first down okay, and you don't get
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: up to the line as quick as possible and go again.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Calling your time out ends your chances of winning the
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: ball game. I mean it literally, your your chances are over.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: You're done. You can't win. At that point, you have
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: less than three well is it three percent to get
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: the on side kicks? What they said, Yes, Dad, it
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: three percent to get the on onside kick, and then
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: you need like another twenty yards or whatever at that point,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: so you're like drawing to one percent outcome where I mean,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the chances are, but you at
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: least have a chance, probably potentially three times.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Just don't run it or if you do, do the
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: qv sneak, which again people can lay on top. So
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: I think that was bad. In the first place. You
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: have to have that second play lined up forty seconds.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Throwing the football in the one three times you have
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: ten seconds, you can you can probably get three plays
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: in ten seconds, maybe a little bit more, maybe twelve seconds,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: whatever the hell it is. Like, man, these coaches just
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: killed me, and I'm glad. Uh, I'm glad Tom Brady
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: got on his ass like he was right. He was
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: riding that hard and you know a lot of people
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: give him Why are people giving him so much ship?
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: By the way, I don't think he's been terrible.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: People always give shit.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like they're making Yeah, they'll make it seem
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: like he's the worst commentator of all, like is he
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: the best? Like no, you remember when Tony Romo came
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: out of the scene and everyone's like he's the best,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: he's the best. Yeah, I get that. He was really
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: really good. He's better than Brady. But I don't think
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Brady's been terrible. But I'm glad he got on his
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: ass because that was a terrible, terrible play call.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: Do you know what defense the same as always?
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I don't know, like if I
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: get any for for defense, I'm fine. Then One thing though,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: the kid York guy does scare me a little bit now, Uh,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: he was over too like last last last week, and
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: that was his first opportunity with the team. You know,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: we talked about these guys being a little more aggressive,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: like that could play into it a little bit more
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: as well. We're like, all right, we have nothing to
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: play for, and our guy was just oh for two
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: last week, Like, let's not roll him out for a
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: fifty yard or so. I don't really like him. I'll have,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: you know, more Aubrey, but I'm not even like all
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: that excited with him easier either, I'm gonna play him.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: I'll probably be around the field, but I don't know,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go crazy with you know, either either
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: defense or either kick or I don't think.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: You prefer Yoshibas to both of them because Sachie Ferguson.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I like them all better than that.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: And then you can always go ahead.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I say, I really like your point though, I mean,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: these teams with nothing to play for are gonna be
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: more aggressive?
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And then like the thing we're talking earlier, plugging
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: Aubrey drop down to tolbt. Yes, Tolbert is popular. You're
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: saving two or leaving two point two k something like that.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: That's how I prefer eating Tolbert Chalk today. I don't
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: think you just like completely faith. He's obviously miss Price
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: will get ownership for a reason.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: It's more so how you use them. So if you
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: got nothing else on DraftKings, Hoop, you gotta lead us
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: off with fan.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah we'll happen. Hop on over to fan duel and yeah,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: you're in your voices voice, the camera's done.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: You're You're good, though, if you want to keep going
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: the shows.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: I was just gonna say to Hoop's point, because what
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: I was doing while you guys were talking was looking
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: up k York. That's not last week. So this guy
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: is so bad he lost his Wikipedia page. This is
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: two years ago. He was over too, and they dropped
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: his ass.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, pulled up quick. Yeah.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Then last year he couldn't even get off the practice
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: squad and he went to injured reserve. And now they
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: just hired him this week to come in and see
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: if he can he can kick, So.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: You're right they pulled that. Where was he in Week one?
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: He wasn't.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: That was week one.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: He played Tampa Bay. In Week one, he played Tampa
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Week one he played he had a game.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Where where was he for that Washington Commanders. It was
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: like September ninth, that says, yeah, so he was released
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: on September ninth after two. Okay, sorry, you're right. He
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: missed two as well, So yeah, he's.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Not he's not the best option. Yeah it was Washington.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good on the Commanders missed two week one, you're
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: out of here someone else.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he missed. He also missed. He was twenty four
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: for thirty two when he played in twenty twenty two.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: So not the best feeling with a little kid York action.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yeah, that's that's not great. Definitely not great.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: They'll just go for it. I'm assuming around fan duel,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: you know, the standard standard stuff. And yeah, if someone
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: put that comment in there, because it worked out well yesterday,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: FanDuel sucks, but who crushes over there? I wouldn't mind
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: crushing over over there again. Tonight got Burrow at fourteen
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: to five, you got Chase at fifteen to five, CD
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Lamb at fourteen. So they're kind of doing the same
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: thing where it's just like increments of like five hundred
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: all the way down the pricing. Let's see if anything
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: stands out. I mean, we know the deal there. We're
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: just looking for pricing differences. Rico at eleven K, so
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: he's a little bit cheaper. But I guess Cooper Rush
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: at eleven to five, so both those guys pretty cheap.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Ferguson at ten K, Colbert seventy five. Over there, Yoshi
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: ninety five hundred. I don't like that. That's like a
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: big boy price tag for Yoshi. That's not super appealing.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: The chief guys are not very good, like even Herbert.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: We talked about Herbert earlier. He's seven K, Like, why
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: is he not five K? Herbert should be five K.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: He's seven There's not much cheap action there. We talked
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: about Tolbert seventy five, Aubrey eighty five, York nine K.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Nothing really stands out over on FanDuel.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just looking at it now. I didn't see
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: much else but a good call. It's on some of
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: those prices that are much higher. And then I guess
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: that's the other one. It's like Chase Brown easy to
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: get to, so I think his ownership number just gets
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: skyrocketed up. I think title you had the good call.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: It was on the I think that same Broncos game
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: we were talking about was like Jamis is not going
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: to get popular just because even though he's a quarterback.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: And on the other side, I think it was just
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: that everybody went Nix and Sutton and it left Judy
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: and Winston and with like no ownership. You could see
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: that again here once you factor in Chase Brown, Burrow
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: and then one of Jamar Chase or Higgins are both combined,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: I think it just drops off a cliff. So it
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: would definitely be another way that you could go here,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: and maybe Cooper Rush is somebody that could use over there.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Low ownership, I think after Burrow Chase Brown, it drops
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: off significantly, like your's one k more is Chase than Burrow.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: You talked about it last week. I think it was
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: you Tanbo, maybe it was Hoop. I don't know why
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Draft or fandos W like fourteen to five.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Five hundred, they're just they're just they're lining up everyone
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: and then just going five hundred dollars lost per spot.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Make it easier.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: What that leads you kid to do or can do
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: is leave money even easier because these guys are all
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: like t Higgins should be maybe fourteen K Chase Brown
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: should be fifteen, k Cooper Rush should be thirteen, k
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: Rico thirteen. Like if they price some of these guys
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: the same, they would be almost all elevated, which allows
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: you to leave salary a little more.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: But then you go down to the salary after Tolbert.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: It's not really fun.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: But if you think Turpin can outscore himkhaleol Herbert Hudson, Mingo,
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: let Key, any of that stuff. I think my favorite
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: approach on FANDO would be not playing Burrow, Chase Brown,
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: and then I even think Chase ced Rico, Cooper Raj.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: I even prefer Cooper Rush and Rico over on FANDO
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: a little more. That's a way to get different, just
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: getting off an MVP chowkut.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good with that. I think that's probably it.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Do you got anything else? Who do you want to
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: add or any other final thoughts?
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Uh, we'll just do the quick giveaway. And I like
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: the one that you had pulled up because it was
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: a talking point for a while, me doing the shoe.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: He finally did it. I think it worked out pretty well.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: But you guys know me, like I'm somewhat of like
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: a you know, I was a little concerned with the
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: cleanliness of the of the shoey, and I did actually
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: go at uncleanly cleanly, unclean route with the backup long
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: cutting shoes. But yeah, at the doctor's appointment to get
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: some antibiotics to kill whatever back to your he got
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: from the shoey. So we'll go with that one. That
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: was a good comment. The real answer is, I mean,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: relatively boring. I went to a lunch in with my
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: father in law, like a Christmas donation thing where they're
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: collecting toys for needy families. So I brought a toy,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: had a launch and I've done it for the last
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: three years, so that's where I was at.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: I like this one too, by the way, late late entry,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: but it was good one soda. Everyone's complaining about it,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: like these guys just.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Get baseball money is just insane. They said, it's like
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: the combined amount that like Tom Brady and Lebron James
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: made throughout their career. It's crazy crazy. Baseball does need
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: some so I mean it is. I yeah, like pay
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: people whatever they're worth, but like it's unfair for like
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: some teams have zero percent chance of getting like a
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: high end superstar player and it just kills it's gonna
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: kill baseball. It really will.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Well, it's like over fifteen years though, how does this
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: thing even ever see its thing? Like I know how
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: they're old, Like again, they could play it through, but
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: I don't. I'm debating them getting to the fifteen years.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: We see these guys like what's his name on the Reds?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: That guy? Know what's it? Rendo? No? No, no, no about
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: the guy that's older. Who's the older guy that played
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: for the Reds? That John Vado maybe Joe? Yeah, how
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: old was he? Like you know he's how old is he?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Thirties? He's done now, I think, right.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: So, but like cansto get up to that and like
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: come through.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: On his years? Contracts are so stupid, like even like
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Bobby Benia is still getting like a million dollars a
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: year like something. It's like so dumb how they're structured.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: But I don't know it's it is. I don't know.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: I hate it for baseball because, like in the NFL,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: I think it's a fair playing field for teams to
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: get good and get relevant. Like in baseball, it's just not.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: It's going to turn into the Dodgers Yankees mats and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: then everyone else is fucked unless you get lucky.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: We went to that game, and uh, where was it?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Was it with you? Detroit? Were you with me?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: I've been to a lot of Detroit.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Is real my bad for to the fantasy baseball? Yes,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: and we went to the Cubs at the Tigers. That's
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: what I was thinking of. He was they were playing
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: the Tiger. The game is literally just there to just
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: hang out and like there's no other point. It's just
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: a place to go hang out in the afternoon and
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: do something because nobody cared, even with like the little
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: stint like ge Risen was with us and he's pumped
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: up for the Tigers. But other than that, nobody gives
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: a shit about anything, right, or you're right, I'm going
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: to say white.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: A lot. It's a social drinking event less your teams
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs, which is pretty pretty rare. I mean,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: I've been knowing to Tigers games my entire life, and
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: ninety five percent of them are You're going there hanging
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: out with buddies or family, drinking some beers, getting some
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: food before maybe hitting the bars after. Like you're not
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: going there because of the baseball game or watching the competition.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: It is unfortunate because other sports is not that way.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: If you go to an NFL game like you're involved,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: like you're invested, you're into it. People are loving it.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: The fans are pumped up for what's happening on the field.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: With baseball, it's everyone's pumped up for what's happening outside
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: of the field.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Just something to do. It's literally just something to do.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: It's crazy what you said will be down to like
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: four teams and they're like, oh my god, this team won.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. Other payrolls three hundred and fifty million dollars.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: The other teams have like an eighty million dollar payroll.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: It doesn't even make any sense.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Well, it's crazy. Like for the Tigers, I mean, they
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: made their little run, but in the first round they
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: played the closer. Some random cloudn't even follow the closer
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: guys with hater or had her whatever his name is,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: he made He was making eighteen million dollars as a
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: not a closer bullpen guys eighteen million dollars. His his
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: amount of money he made is higher than everybody combined
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: on the freaking Tigers. And he's like a no name
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: bullpen guy. Now it's like it's it's a broken system
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: for sure, but you know it is what it is.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: Ultimately will ruin the sport though. I mean, you want
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: as many teams did, as many fans invested in their
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: teams as possible, and it just can't happen with baseball.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: And guys don't want to play for their teams. That
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: was the other talk of the thing there is like
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: who's the starter for Chicago White Sox.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: It's super popular, Crocket or Crotchett or crosch.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: I want to be here. So I think their team's
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: already the worst. They're going for like the worst record
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: in the MLB at the time, and it's like he
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't even want to play here. It's like, of course
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: he doesn't, but like that's the other thing, if he's
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: going to get paid, and just so many other factors
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: to it. But yeah, someone said how do they profit?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Like they must just make so much money.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: It's TVs. They said, it's all on the TV, which
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: there's obviously big money in that. It's crazy to think
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: that that offsets.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: Like profit's right, I mean billionaires years I thought that
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: were just fine.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Like giving someone works, it's wild, man. Yeah, because even
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: if it's like obviously you still need those big TV
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: deals for when the Yankees play the Dodgers or whatever.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: It ends up being right in the ending, but the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: point being more of like then they're going to start
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: getting pissed off too well, they're really just showing up
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: to watch our team, So these billionaire owners are gonna
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: be like, why is this money going to that team
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: down there? But it ruins it all the way down
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: the board. It makes a mess of it, so stupid.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: All right, Title, any final thoughts from you before we
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• 1:04:17
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• 1:04:19
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