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Asi Wind's Show, Speak Pipes and Gig stories #258 · The Magic Guys

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They're guys they do magic they
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are the magic guys we are we
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are that ladies and gentlemen it's happy to it pleases me to say welcome to
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episode 258 of the magic guys i'm josh norbedo i'm gonna mix it up today down
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below we've got doug con what's up y'all live from Las Vegas in the Trick Supply
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Showroom. Happy to be here. Oh, yeah.
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And to my left, my brethren, we've got Nick Kay.
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Our friends, I'm Nick Kay. Bam, bam, bam.
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Oh, yeah. And together, we are the three wise, bald men here to give you magic
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goodness every day. Every day, baby.
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And we're here again. And I'm just full of inspiration off the back of going
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to see Ozzy Wynn's show at the Sydney Opera House.
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I got to tell you, and we are going to talk more about it in the sort of end
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half of the pod, but just to summarize like how wonderful it was,
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I knew, I actually almost didn't go see the show.
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And then I just had massive FOMO from my fellow magicians saying they saw it.
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And then it was great, you know, because I have to fly from Brisbane to Sydney to go see the show.
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So, you know, it was like a thousand dollars in transportation to just to get there.
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And I'm like maybe i won't but then i just
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kept hearing great things and i'm like effort picked the
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very last day of the run and i'm like all right
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how many shows can i fit in the
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one day and i looked it up and i realized i could see his show twice because
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he had a matinee and an evening show and then he also had this add-on vip close-up
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show that would happen after the show so i i I essentially got to see three shows in one day,
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not to mention he hung out with us afterwards, which I'll mention maybe towards
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the end of the episode. So it's not all about me.
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My uh my man crush i guess but but just
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to say it was superb to see like a
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real worker and someone we learn from but actually using
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the material they talk about and teach in in
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a real working like layman environment and it
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just freaking crushing it's very
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inspiring to see now i'm excited for i mean there are so many questions i
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have and i'm sure there's heaps of questions that you guys may have which
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you can put in the comments as well so friends you
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know thanks for been here in the chat we have uh robert all
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magician funny when you head to the side and
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cough we have scotty link good to see you
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bud tim asking up them questions thomas
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conger good to see you herbert all the way from down south
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in tasley good to see you bud and mystery box studio what's
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up and making waves yo yo yo guys thanks
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for being here we have questions and and so
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forth you can guys can throw at us we'll answer them as best we can and
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also you can send through speak pipes if you're
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unaware which is a voice message which is always a fun pointed
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topic and we do have some speak pipes in the tank now
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don't we josh yeah i mean we have one and if anyone's daring to send one in
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while we're live feel free to do that but we have one and i was told it's quite
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funny so i didn't even want to listen to it beforehand because i want us to
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all have a genuine reaction to whatever this is. But this is from Tim.
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And is Tim? I think Tim's in the chat today as well, maybe. But let's see what
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Tim's up to. Strap in, fellas. Here we go.
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G'day, Magic guys. Just a quick story here for you.
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Tim, why can't we hear you speak? I'm a doctor. They've asked me what I do right
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at the end. I've told them I'm a magician.
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Okay. There seems to be a technical difficulty going on here.
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I can hear it okay, it's just very low.
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We can hear it. Why can't you hear it?
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Oh, geez. Well, you know, sometimes in life...
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We just want to test our tech and make sure that it keeps us on our toes.
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All right, well, I'll play it again then.
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Yeah, we're doing it live. And then you guys can tell me what it was. Here we go.
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G'day, Magic guys. Just a quick story here for you.
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So at the doctor's office today, getting a consult, there's a med student and a doctor.
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They asked me what I'd do right at the end. I've told them I'm a magician and
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offered to show them something.
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They were keen. So I went into a little digital force bag routine that links
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up to my Instagram at the end.
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So I said to the doctor, I want you to think of a number between 1 and 100.
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He's done that. And then I've asked him, all right, what number were you thinking of? He said 57.
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Instantly, med student has gone, what the heck? That's the same number I was
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thinking of. So I've just let that moment breathe.
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They're flipping out that they both thought of the exact same number.
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I've had no part in that that's a complete coincidence and then I looked at
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the list found the country at 57 and that matched a post that was pinned on my Instagram,
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both of them were blown away I'm walking out of the doctor's office I can still
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hear them talking about it in the little office room and had the biggest grin
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on my face and I'm like I will never be able to replicate that moment again
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but they will have no idea.
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That was just a little moment that was pretty cool,
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oh all right thanks for
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sending that in Tim wow you know what it's
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funny oh LJ thank you for shooting one
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in while we're live on the podcast I'll load that up
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while we're chatting it's funny that first of
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all it's funny that it's digital force back that created
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such an impossible moment before the reveal like
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it's not normally that's normally the
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tool you use to just get to something great but like the
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fact that that became the moment it's very
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cool sometimes you just got to milk it hey when that
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happens you just got to let it let it sit now you see that we are right now
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is that right say that again you said there was one from lj yep yep we're going
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to skip right past you tim great we're going to move on to lj and we're going
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to see what story what else do you about it. I mean, hooray.
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Damn proud of you, buddy. Doug.
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I was wondering, what is each of your go-to magic effect when you have absolutely no props with you?
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You can do this trick naked, essentially, or at the very least with all of the
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stuff that you would normally carry around with you, like your phone,
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keys, wallet, that sort of vibe.
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What would your go-to effect be? Hope you guys are having a good sesh.
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All right all right we now
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have no i'm just kidding what do you shoot from yeah jesus
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christ josh you couldn't mediate a brothel with a
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fistful of 50s now doug what would you mediate or
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what would you shoot from the hip with so i i
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tell all the noobs anyone who wants
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to have a great repertoire that uh a one
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coin flurry is something that you should have because
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you can always find one coin you know
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you want a nice routine where one coin vanishes
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it appears somewhere else you got a nice finale
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to this thing and if you can't find a coin you can
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find something that's similar you can pick a rock up off
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the ground and do a one coin flurry with a
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rock and then if you learn this now we can manipulate any
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small objects so for me it's that a
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nice sequence of vanishes and appearances with a
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small object go to is the coin but if
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you can learn to do it with a rock you can do magic anytime anywhere
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so that's my suggestion that's exactly
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what i do man totally agree with that i mean coins are so universal it's
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very easy to find at least one you could be at a restaurant you could
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be somewhere someone will gladly crack the
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till open pull out a you know a coin just for you to
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do a you know quick moment of magic you know you throw in
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a pen on top of that you got
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yourself a good eight minutes of magic yeah give
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me a napkin maybe a couple rubber bands and now it's a full
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evening show yeah yeah you.
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Asked me to do a show in office works man or an office max for those guys on.
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Your side of the planet yeah an office supply store is like at is like you know
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us walking into penguin magic or something that's like a dream let's go,
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Isn't that a joke like a mentalist walks into an office, Max,
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and walks out with a show?
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Yeah, that sounds about right.
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What would I add to that? Back in the day, I would have said a card trick,
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but yeah, I really make it a point to not bother to bring cards around when
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I'm not being a magician.
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So I definitely always have a coin.
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Our 50 cent coins are quite big in Australia and they're great for that visual aspect.
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And then if I'm like at the counter of like a store, I might borrow rubber bands
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and do some broken and restored and jumping onto their hand and that kind of thing.
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But other than that, yeah, you're pretty sorted.
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Or I'll grab a pen and I'll do like my little Sharpie routine.
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Now apps, phone apps, you know, digital force bag, for example,
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or iPhone, or, you know, we generally have our phones with us all the time.
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Do you use any apps, fellas? Are you guys into these magic apps at all?
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I mean, I use Hydra religiously. I think it's amazing. Josh is like,
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I'm not talking about the app I use.
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No, no, I was just, I got to say, I woke up a bit sick today.
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So my, my queuing of like letting people speak before I speak and stuff is a
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bit off today, as you might know, which is, I was just taking an extra long
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break then to see if Nick was going to go first, which he did.
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But it's funny, there are amazing apps out now, right?
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And like one that I tried to use for a little while when we had Brian on,
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Brian Saint, he was talking, he was talking a lot about timeline.
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And the impromptu thing of that but and and it is great but honestly honestly
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i don't i don't use apps i don't especially i mean i do in my show but i definitely
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don't in a casual situation no.
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And that is one little caveat i will bring up later about az's show too is even
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relying on an app or tech for magic, even at that caliber,
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can fail you, which it did.
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The internet is always an issue when you're doing performances.
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I have the same situation where I test my Hydra app at every event that I do.
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It just turns out that even though I was in an office building on the seventh
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floor, well above everything, for some reason, when I was on the east side of
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it, performing near the windows, I had no signal.
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But if I was in the middle of the room towards the other side of the room,
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I had all the signal I needed.
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And yeah, and it just resulted in like really slow internet and on that side of the planet.
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So like I dropped down to like 4G connection, you know, and,
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you know, Hydra gives you this feedback moment when you've done your update,
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you know, for your Instagram profile, whatever.
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And yeah, I just had to take that a little while longer and
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thankfully i treat anything to do with technology
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as just a bit of cream on top so if
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it fails i've still got an effect and that's
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one of the it's one of the safest ways to do it and and
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i've got to admit like i'm learning to trust the tech a bit more ever since
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i've started using illuminati products i i really believe in those products
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and i can trust them and they only ever fail when I do something stupid or I
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haven't programmed them properly, but in the same breath,
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they work well because you've paid an enormous amount of money for the privilege.
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Like their printing app or the printing device and everything that comes with
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it is like a $2,000 privilege.
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Which is no small amount of money. But that's what you want.
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You want that level of... I mean, even things as abundant as AudioApe.
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You know, like you pay a ton of money for it, but when you look at the technology,
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it makes it so reliable. It's worth every single penny without question.
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Does the Illuminati apps work with the internet? You need the internet to run those?
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No, no. Not if they're communicating with certain things, like with their devices
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in themselves. It's fine.
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It's a point-to-point. but if you are using any
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kind of means of ai in the equation that it might require
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you to consult your little thing back
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and forth but typically it's it's fine i think that's the difference you know
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if you can get an app that doesn't require the internet you know if you get
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tech that can bluetooth or api then that's maybe a better choice for these modern
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miracles i think you're right and yeah i think that's why digital force bag
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and timeline that we just talked about
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are quite bloody reliable because they're not internet-based.
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Yeah. A hundred percent.
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And I never use it. I never use it. I really should.
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Yeah, I never use either of them, like the digital force. Like,
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you guys, you guys mess with it?
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Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I do in my stage show when I'm doing the can prediction,
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simply because it's like the most direct way to get in and out of it.
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I used to be more, I tried to be more artistic
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stick in and use like a change box right and get everyone to write to physically
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write down different drinks and then put it in a thing and take out one but
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honestly it was just consuming like three minutes of show that I could be using
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for actual entertaining people with so,
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personal choice and it's not failed me unless i've made a mistake myself,
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it's been quite good i do a fun trick i learned from the magic circle uh i forget the jerks,
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he used to write the magic circle jerk blog but the jerks he has he has got
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a lot of good ideas true story oh we go back he has a lot of good ideas with
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the with the digital force bag the one i like to do you put someone's name in
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it so the premise is i'm not sure which trick to do but I got a list of a hundred of them.
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Give me a number from one to a hundred. I'll do the trick that you pick.
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And then they say number five.
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And number five says, predict a number Nick K will choose. Oh, that's cool. Ooh.
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Yeah. So it's a nice organic and it integrates their name into the effect. And yeah.
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Is it easy to use? Is it easy to use? Like, would you recommend it?
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Cause I think it's like a hundred dollar app, right?
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Well, I mean, you heard Tim used it. So how can it be? You know,
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I think it's a great problem. Digital force bag's great.
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Well, if I don't play that sound, it sounds like I'm being mean. So it was a joke.
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Hey, we've had two more, two more speak pipes coming as I've been messing around.
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This one comes in from anonymous, which does worry me a little bit because they
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don't have to be accountable for whatever happens right now, but let's see. Okay.
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I just remember this one time I was performing the cups and balls mainly for
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this one kid and, you know, his two parents was above him.
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And I did the final load, you know, I think I had a squash or something.
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But before I lifted the hat, I was like, oh, how many balls under the hat or whatever?
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And the dad just goes, a giant yellow squash.
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I'm like, way too ruined for the kid. That's pretty much it.
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Yeah some some folks have a
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bit of an ego don't they that they just like it's
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about them and it's like you know i was doing a thing with a kid and
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i was doing like a ambitious routine because i like the kid
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to write their name on it you know they draw me a picture or something because kids
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love to draw and then i'll get them to draw the picture and i use that as
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the ambitious card then i'll do a thing a card to mouth and
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i normally play with the kid for ages you know and i do the
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whole like and i hold it to their faces of this one and they'll start we'll put
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it back in the deck and they just keep looking even though they're looking at
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my face because the card's here
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they look back down again and it's in my mouth the whole time
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and i can milk that for six minutes for everyone involved but
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then you get some douchebag egotistical dad who will
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ruin it you know like it's in your mouth i'm
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like yeah we know we know and you're ruining it
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for the child so i hope you're happy like it's yeah i
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actually i had i had a bit of a standoff with an old with a
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guy with a kid's dad the other day and not for
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anything i did so basically what happened was this guy wasn't the classiest
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of folks like the type of guy who has a beard but
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not because he grooms it but because he just refuses to shave and
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he wasn't very eloquent in any way he kept calling me a g what's up g what's
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on it's all good g relax g and i'm like okay and this is a grown man with when
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i say grown man he probably calls it to 50s you know like deeply wrinkled an
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old man but behaving like this hey now.
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So I'm, I'm performing away and,
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you know, I, I rock out with the kids and we're doing all of our thing.
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And then, so they're all running around the venue, you know,
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they're playing all those sort of ticketed games in the, in the,
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you know, at the venue and the parents are sitting around, they look kind of
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bored. So I go over and I say, how are we all doing? Have I had a good time? Terrific.
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You know, like, can I get you anything? I'm like, okay, great.
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I'm like, you guys look a little bored. You want to see some magic?
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And I go, yeah. So I'm doing some magic.
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And then douchebag dad is like trying to sneak up behind me and like grab me
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and like touch my stuff or are going to my pockets and stuff.
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And I'm just going, get out of it. And I keep doing it. But he kept doing it. I'm like, get out of it.
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And I said it like five times. And I was like, dude, get out of it.
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And he was like, relax, G.
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Relax, G. And because he was trying to touch me from behind and do stuff,
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his child saw him behaving in the same way.
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So his child then rocks up, winds up, and then smacks me on the bottom.
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And that's not cool in any capacity, right?
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And everyone saw it and I just went, yo, you can't touch a grown-up like that, kiddo.
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And, and then the old man was like, just relax, G. It's all right.
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Relax. Okay. Calm down. And I was like, all right. Like you kid just hit me by all means.
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So I finished doing my thing and I'm this and that I'm having a bit of a chat.
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And then he just walks through the group and he goes like this close to my face.
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And he was like, he didn't do anything, bro. He didn't even touch you.
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And I just looked at him and went, okay, just dead in the face.
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And he was like, he didn't do anything. He said he didn't touch you. And I went, sure.
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And he said it one more time. He's like, he didn't touch you all right i went okay
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and he goes what did he do and
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i just went your kid smacked me on the bottom and he
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goes he didn't touch us just relax g don't worry about
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it just leave it alone g and i was like okay i
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just looked at him like fine and i looked at it and i was like and
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then i like this face like you're done and then he just like
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walked away just like walked away and and like grabbed
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his kid and then just like left and and it
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was fine but i just think that like it's
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so annoying because you see the
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way that old mate was running the squash and you see the
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kids and what's going to happen is like idiocy is going to begat idiocy and
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when you look at that behavior like that's just going to breed the next the
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next line of douchebag spectators thank you douchebag dad well the next part
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of this therapy session nick i'd like to go back to your childhood,
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Tell me about, were you a good sharer as a child? Yeah, I was.
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Yeah. I was an only child. I'm not. I'm the youngest of three,
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but like, it's just, you know, you just need to correct it. You got to correct it. What do you do?
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That's it we all we all have to deal with some knucklehead
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at some point and it's interesting you handled it
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great right like yeah and afterwards the parents actually
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apologized the parents were like hey we're sorry for that unpleasantness like
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we we all dislike him and I was like I was like don't worry about that you know
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and I kept on the ropes even the wife was like well what happened I just meant
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nothing happened nothing happened everything was great and it was a good time
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and and and the husband was just like it's fine and that was it and clearly,
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yeah and you can tell by nick's voice that he's completely
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over it now and it does not affect him no i'm
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not here to bleed on my audience you douchebag i'm trying to educate them
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that things do happen so stop attacking me in front of my friends here i think
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it's an important lesson we should all learn just relax g all right calm down
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i'm just messing with you no well handled and i think with the squash thing
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too the only thing i think comes to mind is like just when you like,
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if someone tries to heckle you like that, you can belittle them.
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I think I've talked about this before by like, so number one,
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if they're like, what do you think is under there? A giant squash?
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You could go, oh, that would, you know, only a real magician could make a giant
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squash appear for you on command.
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Let me see if I can do it and then reveal it and change like the language around
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it. Like you made that appear because he asked for it.
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And then you could like high five. I'm like, yeah, man, good job.
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Like really good job, mate. Like so glad you're here. You know,
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you're just like over the top.
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You know, thank him for helping out and yelling out like a champ.
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A pivot and a reframing is a great way to handle that for sure. Yeah.
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Same with when that one person likes to straightaway point out and ruin it for
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the people who are enjoying it, the cards on your head.
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You know, again, you can just be like, oh, well done, man. High five.
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Oh, so glad you're here. Yes.
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So you can kill them with kindness, you know, kill them with kindness.
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If that fails with a gun. No, just kidding.
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I have to play that sound again. In a related note, I was practicing cups and
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balls literally last night and I've recently switched to loading the red tennis
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balls meant to emulate little red leather baseballs that I used.
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I happened to be wearing a red shirt at the time I was practicing and then I
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noticed this is black art at work.
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So I'm loading red balls and I'm wearing a red shirt.
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So now the loads are not going to be as visible to the audience when I make
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them versus using bright yellow tennis balls, for example, where it's like,
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you know, but the red still shows up great on the table with a nice contrasting,
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you know, pad or table base.
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So I'm definitely going to keep that in mind moving forward as opposed to using
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very contrasting loads for my clothing.
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You know, you want something that contrasts with the table surface,
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but if your load matches your clothing, you're going to have black art at work
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for you and that might help things.
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Oh, that's interesting. Do you change the type of cups or loads you use when you're?
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You know, I, I do play with the cups a lot. So, and it's not a routine that
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I even love to perform in, in the modern era anymore. I did it a lot on the streets.
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I'm gonna switch to the old formal british wear for now on and that's gonna be my magi attire,
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yeah it's it's interesting you know because i used to wear like burgundy suits
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then green suits and i i wanted to wear like the loudest color suits because
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you know as cellini said you know color and movement it was i was all about
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it and i guess i suppose coming from the street i really.
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Needed to stand out and have something that, you know, that was bright and took the eye.
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But as I, you know, been in the corporate world for a very long time now,
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like I've just gone to straight black and it's classic and it's classy and,
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you know, it's a very safe way to perform. But more importantly for me,
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it makes everything else I do stand out so well.
23:44
A silver coin against a red suit versus a plain black suit,
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you know, it will pop just that little bit
23:52
more but you know i go to the extreme as well
23:55
like when i pull my sleeves up you know i shave my arms so
23:58
that they don't get distracted by how hairy my arms are
24:01
because i've seen some magicians where i'm like they pull their sleeves up
24:03
and i'm like cool now pull up your jumper but yeah
24:08
guilty yeah and again it's such
24:11
a minor thing like even to the point like i see a lot of magicians wearing rings
24:14
and there's nothing wrong with that but when you're holding a coin
24:17
and you got all these rings it's these little they're little distractions in
24:20
my opinion like like even wearing
24:23
a watch for me is difficult because people say it's
24:26
the watch that does it the watch makes the coin go up
24:28
like yeah you know like yeah and yeah
24:33
yeah it's one of them things i've typically made it
24:36
a funny moment now when when it gets to that part like you do your first phase
24:40
and either you decide to take your watch off and stuff first or they might guess
24:46
it must be a watch so you take it off and I always have rubber bands on so I
24:50
go look all right let me do this like.
24:53
In the most fair way as I can, I'll let me take off my watch and let me take
24:58
off my hair ties. And I just wait.
25:00
And once that clicks, it becomes a funny moment every time. Great line.
25:07
Yeah, yeah. And so... For those listening and not watching, we're bald.
25:12
That's what makes it funny. Yeah.
25:15
There's so many funny jokes now I've realized when you just embrace the baldness.
25:19
I have what's called a bald man's comb and it's a comb without any teeth.
25:23
And so pre-show when people are coming in, I'll just be like by myself,
25:29
like fixing my hair with this comb.
25:31
And people just find it funny because I'm clearly doing it just for them to
25:35
notice, even though they don't think I can notice.
25:38
So funny stuff.
25:41
Gregory Lee is our next Speak Pipe. He's in the chat. Oh, also shout out to
25:46
David Ung, who's in the chat.
25:48
We got to meet in person at the Opera House. He also came to Ozzy's show,
25:52
and it was great to finally meet another fellow podcastee.
25:57
Actually, and again, I'll talk about that in a little bit, but the amount of
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magicians that were at his closing show was quite overwhelming.
26:05
But alas, we have Gregory Lee with a 35-second speakpipe.
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Hi, this is Gregory. As you might have heard, Eagle and the Seager is suing
26:16
Craig Petty and Penguin Magic for libel and defamation. And that's all we have time for.
26:21
So, next on the SpeakPine.
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Jesus Christ, Gregory. What are you trying to do to us? All right,
26:28
I guess we'll listen to the whole. Do we listen to the rest of the thing?
26:34
Well, it's probably a big topic, but maybe it's worth touching on.
26:39
And maybe, I don't know, maybe we ask Craig to come on the show and get his thoughts.
26:44
And I don't know. Like, I don't know what the idea would be. You tell us.
26:46
Yeah, that's right. You tell us. I mean, as the listeners, you tell us,
26:49
okay, is that something you would like to see Craig coming on?
26:53
Obviously, Craig is welcome anytime. But is that specifically something,
26:55
as a listener, you would enjoy?
26:58
I think it'd be cool to have Craig on here, actually.
27:01
I think so. Has he not done the podcast? I feel like we've had Craig on.
27:05
No and i mean there was a a video
27:08
he put out where he said the magic guys
27:11
one fism i don't even know who they are so
27:14
oh yeah that's right but but
27:17
but through him saying that he now has
27:20
to by definition know who we are because he said our name
27:23
so right yeah yeah so
27:26
look we know where that question's going but it's i mean we we can say whatever
27:30
we want but we're not really involved in it so maybe we just need to get craig
27:34
on i reckon but we'll let you guys decide i can see some people saying they're
27:38
big fans of him and yeah actually david's saying i don't think we need the negativity that's fair enough,
27:45
Hell yeah, have them both on. Oh, Jesus. We can make that a pay-per-view. That's interesting.
27:52
I remember Eric doing a post during the Blackpool convention.
27:56
He says something to the effect of like, where's the Craig Petty and Miguel's
28:01
knife fight? Has them changed rooms?
28:07
Everyone's just trying to throw. The point is that everyone's trying to throw
28:11
fuel in the fire and we're not one to do that. I mean, Petty kind of likes that environment.
28:18
You know, you go back to the Wizard product review, he's, you know,
28:21
like he's battled with Justin Miller and, you know, there's,
28:24
you know, the magic battles.
28:28
I have noticed that the UK world of magic enjoys a bit of beef because Craig
28:36
Petty, obviously that's like his brand is like controversial content.
28:41
But then you also have the Magicians podcast that's behind a paywall,
28:46
but they are always trying to ruffle the feathers of the person they're interviewing.
28:53
And they interviewed magicians that were lecturing at Blackpool about how their lecture went.
29:00
And I know that some people that lectured there actually got pressed pretty
29:05
hard, like saying, oh, but that thing didn't work.
29:08
So why do you want people to buy it? And so it's kind of weird,
29:11
like, you know, we're just here trying to lift everyone up and,
29:13
you know, share fun stuff and, and give tips and things.
29:16
And it's interesting just to see, you know,
29:20
the style people like to deliver content. I wonder, you know,
29:24
if people do it purposefully, like, you know, because it's proven that you can
29:28
be controversial to get engagement and drive the algorithms.
29:32
And I'm hoping that's not the case because magic doesn't need that, right?
29:37
There's times to have beef and beef you have to work out. And I do think there's
29:41
some valid beef going on right now.
29:44
True. I think it just doesn't work because like magicians aren't tough.
29:50
Like we're not known for like our toughness. So like when there's a beef,
29:53
it's like if two ballerinas had beef, you know, it's not really.
29:57
The fight that ensues isn't, yeah. The fight that ensues isn't a,
30:01
isn't a, like two guys at a bar putting their beers down and going,
30:03
let's take this outside. And they sort it out six minutes later.
30:06
They're having, they're finishing their beers again.
30:08
I wonder how many, how many beefs have come to fisticuffs with magicians.
30:13
Probably you can count them on one hand.
30:15
Yeah, but that's the kind of
30:16
thing, right? Right now, because we aren't an aggressive people by nature,
30:21
like we tend to do it in a very bitchy way, which is when we just start to insult
30:25
each other and we try to sabotage each other's, you know, careers or reputations.
30:32
Like we go for reputation, we call them words, we say they're not that great,
30:36
we say they steal or they're whatever the hell.
30:38
And that's, you know, it's just a hearsay game in that sort of entity.
30:44
And it's unhealthy regardless, but, you know, in the same breath,
30:48
maybe probably need to learn to forgive. I don't know.
30:50
And what's the point, you know? But however, the 50 cent and Ja Rule beef,
30:54
like I am there for it, man.
30:56
Like I am there for it. 50 cent bought out like the entire first 10 rows of
31:02
Ja Rule show just so he could have like a half empty. Like that's funny.
31:08
That is funny. You know? That guy's the king of beefs.
31:13
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, but no, look, I mean, it's interesting that you
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brought it up, Gregory, so thank you.
31:19
But yeah, we're not really the certified guys to really riff and talk about
31:24
it, but it is unfortunate that anything like that is happening for sure.
31:28
But it sounds like he's getting the support that he needs. Can I also add to
31:32
that, like we, we haven't done our diligence on that.
31:35
You know, even LJ, the magician here says to himself that like,
31:38
what's it about? I haven't heard anything yet. You know, we know there's a beef.
31:42
There is always three sides of the beef. There is, you know,
31:46
side one, side two, and the truth.
31:47
So, you know, it might be something...
31:52
If you guys really want to talk about it, like we'll do our diligence and then we'll talk about it.
31:58
Yeah, I would say go and watch Craig's videos about it. You know,
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I think he has like a one hour first off video about it.
32:04
And then the follow-up once there was a rebuttal. Anyway.
32:08
Can I talk about Ozzy Wynn now? Is this a good time?
32:12
Yeah, probably. Doug, anything else you want to touch upon before we...
32:16
For this BS? Nah, let's move on.
32:20
Sick. Okay. Well, I'm going to talk about it, but it's really to bring up certain
32:24
points that we'll be able to talk about in general.
32:27
But I'm just using Azi's show as an example of some of the things that were
32:31
really great that I think a lot of magicians can benefit from hearing and apply
32:35
to their own work and stuff.
32:37
So first and foremost, like, I mean, so the show itself, I got to see twice.
32:42
So I saw the matinee show and the evening show. and you
32:46
could tell like it does make quite
32:48
a difference when the audience themselves is like
32:52
more into the show like a more
32:55
energetic crowd sorry a more energetic crowd
32:58
does kind of bring a more energetic performer
33:01
because of like the bounce of energy like the
33:04
exchange of energy so there was a noticeable difference in
33:07
the performance between the two shows because the second
33:10
show was just way more into it like the first
33:14
few jokes just hit so hard can
33:17
you set the scene like what's the venue like how many
33:19
seats and that's a great point doug thank you yeah
33:23
so from the beginning yes so it
33:26
was it was a cloudy day there wasn't too
33:28
much moisture in the air and you know i had a
33:31
full all right it was at the sydney opera house which is i think everyone around
33:37
the world kind of knows that landmark so it's a very prestigious place to play
33:41
and it's the first time rzwinds ever come to australia so those two things combined
33:46
made it make it pretty exciting for for a magician.
33:51
But there were plenty of people that went to the show not even knowing who Ozzy was.
33:55
They just knew there was a magic show on and that they were recommended to go,
33:59
which is also interesting.
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Sydney Opera House, the actual room itself is amazing for close-up and parlor magic.
34:09
Like, I feel like I'm trying to gauge how many people are in the room.
34:14
I want to guess it can hold somewhere like 500 seats or something,
34:19
four to 500 seats. but it's set in a way that it's quite intimate.
34:25
They did have a camera projecting some of the show when it was a very close-up
34:29
moment with cards or whatever, but it wasn't used the whole show.
34:32
Like, you could very easily watch RZ on stage from any part of the room.
34:36
Like, it's a very cool setup for a one-man show.
34:41
Yeah, so you go into the Sydney Opera House. It's great. It already sets the
34:45
scene for feeling like this is going to be a great show going into this venue.
34:49
Did he sell it out? Is it a full?
34:52
I yeah i mean i both shows i was kind of seated in sort of the middle front half of the room,
35:02
but when i look back like there were people seated all the way back to the end
35:06
so given that it was the last day to people were probably like i don't want
35:11
to miss out on this kind of thing,
35:13
so like they didn't advertise that it was sold out but it felt like i would
35:18
say at least like 90 capacity yeah was was filled yeah so you go in there's
35:25
it's just very casual like there's a bit of background music playing and then
35:29
the show just starts like they they he has this little,
35:33
into like introduction of of uh acoustic guitar
35:36
playing and then the screen goes dark the room
35:40
goes dark comes back up boom and he's there and
35:43
he just kicks into it it's no like crazy smoke and
35:46
production of lights and blah blah blah it's just like let's go and
35:50
and he's there and you know the first without
35:53
going into the the exact effects he does because it
35:56
you should go and see the show and be surprised and things but like
35:59
the first half an hour of the show is like very classic rz magic that you would
36:04
want to see from him like with cards and doing effects that you know we know
36:10
him for and things and that felt the strongest like one thing i want to say
36:14
is like card magic can play so strong on a stage.
36:20
But the thing that I noticed that made it so entertaining was Ozzy himself.
36:26
A lot of people I talked to as well, as me noticing this, is like how great
36:31
of a presenter he is, whether that's something he's developed over the years
36:35
of doing all of these hundreds of shows or not.
36:38
He's super funny, like in the moment, like very quick wit.
36:42
And he's found a way to make all the effects play quite big.
36:46
Like some music will play for certain moments in the card tricks.
36:49
And so he's made it very theatrical he'll be in the
36:52
audience for part of it while the spectators still on stage
36:55
and like but so he's making these
36:58
funny beats happen in between the trick so like
37:01
i guess what i'm saying is if he was to have just done
37:04
the trick it it would have
37:06
not it would have fallen it felt it would
37:09
have felt a bit flat in a this big sydney opera
37:12
house room but it's his presentation that he
37:15
added to it the magic was so strong anyway but yeah
37:19
really considering how you present the trick on
37:22
stage i guess is what i'm saying for us magicians to
37:25
consider because it really it felt like the strongest
37:28
and probably my favorite part of the
37:30
show even though you could put it
37:33
down to being card tricks if that makes sense well what
37:36
was the opening effect then just to sort of set the tone for the
37:39
for the evening the well the very very opening effect like that happens in the
37:46
first two minutes is there's a there's a a thing on stage that's that says specifically
37:52
like do not let this influence you but it's like all these numbers on the screen.
37:57
The very opening effect is like a prediction of a number that he gets someone
38:03
in the audience to think of. Oh. And then he.
38:09
It looks like it's going to be a gag. And then it looks like he's stuffed it up.
38:13
And then the third face is he reveals the actual number, but he reveals it in
38:18
a way you don't think you would reveal a number, if that makes sense.
38:22
Like all the other numbers that weren't theirs actually draw out the real number that they picked.
38:28
I think he's done that on TV somewhere. Okay. Before.
38:32
Actually, yeah, I'm sure he's done it. Yeah. So, yes, he opens with that,
38:36
which is not as visual as like making a wine bottle appear or something.
38:41
You know, it's not like a, it's not fire or a dove or whatever,
38:44
but in terms of Ozzy Wynn, that's pretty visual magic.
38:49
And, but it was all the jokes and the timing and the theatrics that went into
38:54
it that made it interesting.
38:55
Like the fact that he had a big thing up saying, don't let these numbers influence you.
39:00
Like he didn't have to do that, but it definitely added to it, you know?
39:04
Yeah and so how long
39:08
was the show yeah i think the show was 90 minutes
39:12
i'm pretty sure with intermission no no
39:15
intermission actually is that can that be right it was definitely
39:18
over 60 minutes yeah wow maybe
39:22
80 minutes i feel like a lot of the vegas shows are
39:24
about 75 minutes no intermission that's kind
39:27
of like what they're doing here wow yeah
39:30
maybe that's what it is yeah maybe it was like 75 yeah because
39:34
when you get into sort of the second half
39:38
of the show there's some pieces that like book testy type things that that are
39:43
a bit longer and involve way more people and so that sort of takes more of the
39:48
time let me just collect my thoughts here oh and one thing you don't expect
39:53
to see from Ozzy is in the in the final show we watched.
39:57
He did a watch steal, which is very exciting for magicians to watch happen because
40:02
it was maybe the funniest display of a watch steal I've seen in that he kept
40:07
showing the guy his own watch once Ozzy had put it on his wrist and the guy
40:13
was just so focused on the effect that he couldn't see it.
40:16
Very much like when you put the card on your forehead and they don't see it.
40:20
It had that same feeling, but with the watch steal.
40:24
David Ong, who's in the chat here, he was there too. apparently that
40:27
only happened in that show in in that night from
40:30
all of his whole run that's the only time that that he did
40:34
that and i also think that's because the audience was so hot and just
40:36
ready for it hmm yeah so
40:39
all up what yeah what super impressed
40:42
me is like the effects that he did aren't like it's it wasn't like going to
40:48
a david blaine show where he's like doing all these impossible things that only
40:52
david blaine could do right like he's not shoving an ice pick he's not jumping
40:56
off a 50 story thing he's not swallowing like he's doing,
41:01
like what you would sort of feel like is classic magic but just presented so
41:06
well very thought out very polished and it's very yeah it's very motivating
41:12
to see and inspiring to see like just.
41:16
What is essentially a very well put together classic magic show playing to so
41:20
many people at the Sydney Opera House.
41:22
It's pretty dope. It taught me that it's really about the magician themselves,
41:26
not like the crazy ass tricks that you're trying to create that no one's ever done before.
41:31
If that makes sense. That's what I found most interesting about like all the
41:35
sort of testimonies I've heard about the show is that he as a performer was
41:40
like extremely funny and pleasant and had this huge level of showmanship,
41:44
whereas you wouldn't typically think he's known for that because his magic is,
41:49
to some degree, relatively serious.
41:51
When you read his material and so forth, you don't really get that Danny Garcia
41:55
fun-esque type of character from him, but there he's on stage just crushing
42:01
it and being hilarious and awesome.
42:03
Yeah, and a classic example is he would have someone come on stage and be like,
42:09
oh, can you shuffle these cards first?
42:11
And the specter might shuffle them And do like a little bridge shuffle And the audience would be like,
42:17
And like applaud And Ozzy would be like Hey, hey, hey, hey Everyone can shuffle
42:21
cards Like I'm doing the impossible stuff And that would be funny Like he would
42:25
deliver it in quite a funny way So it'd be stuff like that It would just happen
42:29
Like throughout the whole show So there's never like a beat Where you're like Oh,
42:33
there's nothing happening here You know Very,
42:36
very cool And a real pro It was interesting to watch,
42:40
someone kind of heckle him and him just deal with it in such a nonchalant way.
42:47
Like, for example, one of the shows he was doing Cards Across,
42:50
and so he would count out ten cards and.
42:53
Get them to check it was 10 and then have them, you know, put the cards to their chest.
42:59
Well, instead of putting the cards to their chest, he wanted to count them again,
43:03
which at this point you can't, but just watching him handle that so well without
43:09
even pausing a beat and still going on with the routine. He had to switch methods.
43:15
Like basically everyone knows cards are crossed, right? We have to somehow secretly add cards.
43:20
Well, the guy wanted to count the cards, so he took them back from him,
43:24
and he recounted them for him in front of him.
43:27
Hiding the extra ones that you have to count and gave it back to him.
43:31
And the guy still insisted on trying to count them himself. So he took them
43:34
back again, put them back on the deck.
43:37
And he's like, look, let's just take out 10. One, two, three,
43:39
two, three, two, three, two, three.
43:41
Gave them the 10 and let him count them because he knew he would.
43:45
And then he added them after that.
43:48
Like grabbed them back for one second, added them back on, kept going.
43:52
It was really cool to just see. He didn't sweat it. He just obviously he's encountered
43:55
this a million bazillion times,
43:57
before and and that was really cool now
44:00
some people are asking in the chat how is the vip
44:03
performance after and what that is
44:06
is once the show's finished and by the
44:09
way both shows that i went to got standing ovations that's
44:13
great in australia that is quite hard
44:16
to do do you feel he works towards
44:19
that some i know some magicians have little tricks they
44:22
do to get the standing know you think he's
44:25
priming the audience for that moment or there's no
44:28
talk of a standing ovation or like a
44:31
movement of it or whatever yeah what he
44:34
genuine love for the best art ever yeah i
44:37
mean what he did do was he the very
44:40
last thing he does in the show really hits
44:43
like an emotional level to you because throughout the show he talks about this
44:48
first trick he saw growing up as a kid and how it impressed his dad and that
44:53
made him so full of joy that he had fooled his dad growing up and throughout
44:57
the show he keeps kind of talking about this effect and then when you think
45:01
the show's over this spotlight comes up.
45:04
You realize he's going to show us that trick that he was talking about and when
45:09
he does that and then the lights go out when that trick is done you're like
45:13
oh that was beautiful and it just naturally everyone just if i can stand up
45:17
and it's really good emotional like callback and time.
45:22
So the show finishes and everyone leaves and you go into the foyer and they reset the stage to have,
45:29
it's on my instagram stories right now if anyone
45:32
does go and look but essentially they set up like a big banquet
45:35
table on the stage and they put like
45:39
20 chairs around the table so like 10 go around the table or eight go around
45:43
the table so Ozzy's in front and then like the rest of the chairs go behind
45:47
those chairs but they're like risen up chairs so very much like theater magic
45:52
esque like it's like two little tiers of seating but it's on the stage and you're like right there,
45:59
and it's essentially like 15 20 minutes
46:02
of extra magic where he just comes out borrows decks of cards from anyone who's
46:08
brought them and just starts to create wonderful magic chaos it's very unscripted
46:14
it's just very like let's try some stuff with stuff you brought with you and
46:19
he just fries everyone again,
46:23
as like a little extra bit. Personally, I actually enjoyed that even more.
46:29
Like it topped seeing the show in a way that was great because it would be terrible if like.
46:36
The next thing you go and like you see the show and then if the vip was
46:39
like me like as good as the show david copperfield does
46:43
with b wave right he's
46:48
gonna get beef from me for that for the rest of my life he does
46:53
lottery predictions and you know the whole show is
46:56
predicted on a poster and then you go back for the vip and he
46:59
does b wave man so
47:02
like yeah that would be a bit shitty right but but it
47:05
really did top and they're old ravi b-waves they're
47:08
not new it's like patterned b-waves they're faded
47:11
oh no minimum effort to his credit it's like the it was actually the first b-wave
47:19
ever produced like it's probably a collector's item yeah it's like he's been
47:23
doing that since it was a banger in 1991 talking talking about beef we're going to be.
47:31
Canceled next week the copperfield
47:35
camp but who is these days well i'm
47:38
i'm curious after the show like merchandise what
47:42
what was he selling because some folks were telling me that he
47:44
had copies of his book i mean it ended up selling out before the end
47:47
of the run but i just thought this could be an interesting talking point so
47:50
just what i had heard was he had
47:53
copies of repertoire like one and two and was selling them at his at like at
48:01
the merch stand and he was performing pieces from this straight out of those
48:06
books and then selling them at the merch stand afterwards which is an interesting
48:09
interesting thing to do for lay folk.
48:13
Yeah, it's a really interesting concept of selling the stuff you're performing.
48:19
Did you go there? Did you see the back of room sales, Josh? Did you go see what he was doing?
48:24
So because I was there on the last day, I feel like everything had sold out.
48:29
But from what I was told, similar to what Nick's saying, I heard he did have
48:33
books of repertoire for sale and also his inner circle decks of cards,
48:38
which again, had sold out before I ever got there.
48:41
That wasn't a show branded as the inner circle show
48:44
or was it just this is ozzy wins magic
48:47
this show this show is called incredibly human
48:50
and it's the same show he did
48:53
in west in london's west end last year he
48:57
did a big run of shows there and yeah
49:00
the whole premise of it being that you know
49:02
even though ai and tech is a big deal right
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now humans are still incredible and it's like exploring that
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and celebrating that so it was definitely themed to
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a thing other than just ozzy wind but yeah
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it's an interesting idea to have i it
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what's so fascinating about ozzy wind is like
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he's very quickly becoming like one of the greats that even the public are starting
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to learn about but he's not pretending like he's doing the impossible real magic
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that's like You know From another world Like It's stuff you can learn And he's very Okay with people.
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Buying that book At the merch store And reading about it You know But I have
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a feeling It has something to do With.
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Being material that he's super passionate about and also it's difficult to do like so like,
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something that i enjoy and i think i feel it
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with nick too is that like we do magic that if people knew
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what the secret is they'd probably still be impressed because of
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like the difficulty or the thinking that's
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gone into it do you know what i mean nick absolutely you
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know it's the type of thing where they're like tell me how it's done i'm like even if i showed you
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it still wouldn't make any sense like it's um there
50:20
was an amazing amazing performer who did a god it
50:23
was a very old dvd that i'd watched you probably
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know him heavy set guy bearded southern accent type cat and he does this whole
50:31
bit where he was like i'll tell you how it's done and he does he explains the
50:35
whole routine it's like a nine minute piece and he does like invisible palm
50:39
and then he's like oh now that you know how it's done like go ahead and you
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know like go impress your friends and they just were like,
50:45
no chance, that's hard as hell, and they all just clapped for him.
50:48
I wish I could remember him.
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Older, older gentleman. But yeah, it's... I think it has something to do with that.
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He's just very proud of his work because it is very technical and very difficult
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in a sense, especially if a layman opens the book, they're not going to understand
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what the F most of it means, you know.
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But the thing I do want to say that I really credit Ozzy for is how many times...
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So first of all, I talked to his producer, Charlie Mortimer,
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that brought Ozzy out to Australia,
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that was producing the show at the opera house and
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one thing charlie said was how like ozzy's work
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ethic like the moment ozzy landed he would
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do every single promo photo shoot interview
51:30
special appearance magic for
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influences like he would just do whatever the producer
51:36
had asked him that had nothing to do with the actual
51:39
show itself like he would just work and do it and stay
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up and set up and blah blah blah but after every
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show from like friends that i've heard that
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have gone to see the show he would then go out like to
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dinner but like be happy for other magician like that
51:54
saw the show to come out and sit and listen to him and jam
51:57
and you know after every show like when our friend
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brendan dooley went they they got to have
52:03
dinner with arzy and watch him do more magic and hang out and talk
52:06
and chat till like midnight or something and he
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did the same thing with me and the magicians i was with which he which his run
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was over like he had just done four shows that day like two shows and two vip
52:19
shows and his whole run's over he's packed up the whole show and he still was
52:24
like hey we have to leave now but i want to keep showing you stuff.
52:28
So like yeah we're gonna go to dinner and like and we stayed out till like 1
52:32
a.m and even the craziest thing is.
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Yeah, like, and he would answer every question I had, of which I had many.
52:41
And even at 12.45 a.m., he was still like, all right, shuffle these cards.
52:48
And does this mean anything to you to this number? Like, he was still going and still fooling us.
52:52
Like, by the way, even if you've read all his books, he still has such a repertoire
52:56
of stuff that he obviously keeps to himself that fries the F out of me and everyone else.
53:03
Yeah, so that's very cool. It's very cool.
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So yeah great work ethic obviously did
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great shows but you know yeah say
53:14
what you will about rz in terms of like how you know personable he is outside
53:18
of shows and whatever but he he really had a lot of time for us magicians so
53:22
for that we thank him and yeah it was great great so totally worth flying down
53:27
i'm stoked that you saw it right oh man thank god i did right.
53:32
It was yeah it was great even just to see literal
53:34
touches on effects that he has toured but
53:37
has since like modified slightly or changed
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was was very cool and man good times and now it's you know now all we have to
53:48
do is uh we have to get our shows in the opera house uh so it's going to be
53:53
this goal that's not unreasonable that's a good goal for y'all i would say you
53:58
know that's I'm talking about. Yeah.
54:01
The Magic Guys live on stage, baby. Mm-hmm. Hell yeah.
54:07
Guys, we have, I guess we can mention it, we have a guest coming on next week as well.
54:12
Yeah. Who a lot of people in the comments should know who it is,
54:16
especially if you're a professional magician and you've taken certain courses
54:20
on how to market your shows.
54:23
We have him live in the flesh next week.
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And he has more hair than us. He sure does.
54:30
Now, you know, a lot of the tone that's been set this year is a lot of folks
54:34
are working on putting their new shows together and trying to get their magic businesses started.
54:38
And so I had the pleasure of catching up with our guest, which we'll surprise you with next week.
54:45
And this is one thing that he excels in. He is someone who helps magicians all
54:49
over the planet to help them get six figures within the space of a year.
54:54
So it is something he's an absolute pro at.
54:57
He's helped so many people, close friends of ours, as well as many that we don't know.
55:01
And so when I asked him politely if he would come and have a chat to us and
55:04
share his knowledge, he said he was happy to oblige.
55:07
So if you are someone who is trying to get your magic life going,
55:11
even in a small capacity, or if you want to make it your full time,
55:14
I implore you do not miss next week's episode. Cool. Hello.
55:20
And while we still have two minutes, we've got to make the most out of this two minutes.
55:24
Nick, what is coming up for you? I know you've got Theatre of Magic coming up
55:27
this week. We have Theatre of Magic this Saturday.
55:30
I'll be performing Friend of the Pod, while Australia's honest con man, Mr. Nicholas J.
55:35
Johnson. So we'll be performing two shows this Saturday, which is going to be awesome.
55:38
Outside of that, it's university gig time for me at the moment.
55:42
I have gigs every day this week by Wednesday. It's my only day off.
55:46
So that's my life. I'm going from like university accommodations,
55:50
student accommodations, one after the other, and just performing and flat out
55:53
for the next two weeks. So that's my existence.
55:57
Damn. Okay. Yeah. More gigs than I've got going on.
56:00
Going to New Zealand for a family wedding in, actually that's not even soon.
56:05
That's in like three weeks.
56:07
A muzzle tub. Great. Who's getting married? Your mom. No, just kidding.
56:11
I'm going to hit the sound. That's not me.
56:16
No my sister-in-law like my my fiance's
56:20
sister is getting married and so yeah
56:23
their family is very happy that uh they're the
56:26
first ones getting married out of all the you know out of the two siblings
56:29
so now it's going to put more pressure on sandy and i
56:32
i'm sure but looking forward to it yeah new zealand
56:35
like traveling for a wedding it's going to be it's going to be great lots of
56:37
family around it's a great spot in uh dunedin that they're having the way hell
56:41
yeah yeah it's gonna be sick cleveland's gorgeous bro you're gonna love it it's
56:47
a schlep to get there though like it's quite a drive but man is it pretty yeah
56:51
it has the world's uh steepest street in the world,
56:55
yeah that's where everyone tests their electric skateboards if it goes up that
56:58
hill like you just sell yeah that's like a thing genuinely oh i did not know
57:02
that everyone's like we're gonna take our electric skateboard we're gonna tackle
57:05
the world's steepest hill and if it makes it up there where I was like,
57:07
oh, I'm flying that skateboard.
57:09
Damn. That's new to me. I like it. Yeah.
57:13
Doug, where can people find you this week? Well, this week I'll be at Trick Supply.
57:18
Next week I'm actually flying the Cooper, going to the Portland Magic Jam.
57:23
So I'll be up there with Daniel Garcia and Richard Turner and Silly Billy, John Chirac.
57:29
Uncle Dave. And Wonder Ground mid-March, still doing that every month with McBride
57:35
and company at the Olive.
57:36
I'm staying busy in my own way.
57:39
I would love to spend time with John Chirac. I remember when I bumped into him
57:42
in Vegas some three visits ago and just thanked him for like really solidifying
57:49
one of the things that I hold true to creating my magic.
57:52
And it's that you don't have to actually do what you're doing in magic.
57:55
You only have to make it appear as if you're doing what you're doing.
57:58
And that for me just like changed my mind, like just blew my mind.
58:02
It's like, oh, you don't actually have to levitate the coin.
58:03
You have to make it look like it's levitating. I'm like, oh, gold.
58:08
And I've loved him ever since for that. so he's a
58:10
beast man super pro like he is you
58:14
can learn a lot from that guy big time if
58:16
you're unaware of shirok you know he is responsible for the
58:19
ringing walnut in the egg and the orange or
58:22
the lemon yeah like that that level of brilliance like it's just that that level
58:27
of thinking i was like damn change me ah that's awesome yeah well that's all
58:32
we have time for friends i hope you found some of this inspiring and we can't
58:36
wait to bring you next week's episode with a great guest who's going to help you with your career,
58:41
no doubt as well. Look out for that.
58:44
And Doug, can you give us the final word today? I feel like we need to end this
58:47
like in a proper way. So we're going to give Doug the final word.
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I was reflecting today how I wish I would have practiced my bottom deal more when I was younger.
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So my word to you is work on your bottom.
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Thanks for listening. It's time for us to disappear now. Disappear now.
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But we'll see you again on the next episode of The Magic Guys.