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Balled Ep 3 - NFL Preview w/ Clint Russell · Toadstool Sports

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  Speaker 1: Yep. Inside, I want to kill myself. We're on OWN
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  Speaker 1: seven run over the last two days after tonight it
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  Speaker 1: was just complete bullshit. So that's that's I'm gonna start
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  Speaker 1: off this show horrible Sunday one and five. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know what to tell you above that. I just
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  Speaker 1: don't want to do this anymore. I have never seen
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  Speaker 1: anything like this. Man with the slump continuing. Two straight losses,
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  Speaker 1: not a good day at all. Own four that have
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  Speaker 1: not had a good season. Man with wookends the slump
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  Speaker 1: that I'm on, and the slump continues. I've reached a
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  Speaker 1: new peak. Actually, I'm going to burn my Brouins hat Man.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what is going on with the Bruins.
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  Speaker 1: March eight, Is that what it is? I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know it's It's March ninth. I think who even knows? Man,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what data is anymore. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know what data is anymore. Man, back with you
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  Speaker 1: after the worst day that I could possibly have, Back
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  Speaker 1: with you as I always am until I die at
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  Speaker 1: least oh and two. Yesterday and yesterday did not go
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  Speaker 1: well for me. Own five the worst month that I've
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  Speaker 1: ever had in my eighteen years doing this. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what to even tell you about this anymore. The slumper,
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  Speaker 1: slump disconvens, the slump continues. Somebody fucking kill me, please.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what I should do at this
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  Speaker 1: point other than potentially end it all.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, you like that intro?
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  Speaker 1: Clinton?
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  Speaker 2: I'm a fan, dude. I think you need to rename.
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  Speaker 2: You showed that the slump continues to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, I needed new uh like yeah, branding and ship,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, maybe I should do that. Whatse everybody? This
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  Speaker 1: is the slump continues exactly. It's ball to actually is
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  Speaker 1: what we're calling this series. Clint Russell is back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, how you doing, man? I'll show the bald heads
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  Speaker 2: so that people can know that we're still on brand.
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  Speaker 2: I'm good, man, I'm good. I am just a disclaimer
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  Speaker 2: to everybody. I am deep in baseball right now, so
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  Speaker 2: I am like all about the padres. I am totally
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  Speaker 2: oblivious to anything any offseason trades, maneuvers, signings in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be totally worthless, which means that my advice
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  Speaker 2: will be just as accurate as toads. So that'll be good.
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  Speaker 1: That was pretty much, DH, this is gonna be fairer retarded.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about the baseball moves that are
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  Speaker 1: happening trade deadline today San Diego seems like the Padres
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  Speaker 1: are sellers man seemingly right, Well, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: They picked up they picked up the Oakland A's closer,
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  Speaker 2: and they're not even getting rid of Suarez, which is
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  Speaker 2: the best closer in baseball. So it looks like looks like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, who did they trade away? That makes you
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  Speaker 2: think we're sellers?
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  Speaker 1: Or actually maybe they're not, actually because they traded away
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  Speaker 1: their like top prospect I thought was like on the
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  Speaker 1: verge of maybe like coming up to the majors.
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  Speaker 2: But oh no, no, no, that's not That doesn't make you
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  Speaker 2: a seller. They traded away the prospect to bring in
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  Speaker 2: a starting cl with three point eight uh e er,
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  Speaker 2: which is like three Suarez, who's the best closer in baseball,
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  Speaker 2: has three point four to five, So it's like he's
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  Speaker 2: basically like, we have we have the deepest pen ever
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  Speaker 2: like in like baseball history. It's fucking crazy. So as
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  Speaker 2: long as our starters can get us to the sixth,
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  Speaker 2: it's like it's game over.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Padres even prior to this move, they already
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  Speaker 1: had the best bullpenniera in baseball.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and we just added which I have no
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  Speaker 2: idea why we added that when we need to add
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  Speaker 2: a bat, but you know, I guess we're gonna. We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna ride the pitching merry go round. We also brought
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  Speaker 2: on a new starter, starting pitcher, which we did need
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  Speaker 2: help with. I like the Padres man, I'm blanking on
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  Speaker 2: his name, but he's a legit starter, so we needed. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we needed an additional starter because our we've uh we've
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  Speaker 2: had we've been racked with injuries, but now we're getting healthy,
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  Speaker 2: now the bats are starting to fucking heat up. We
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  Speaker 2: just added a starting closer for the A's is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be like our eighth inning guy, probably, which we don't
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  Speaker 2: even need because we've got such incredible bullpen action. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. The Padres are legit.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, and he was like the only the only relief
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  Speaker 1: pitcher on the A's was even any good at all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're like, we want.
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  Speaker 1: He went from the worst bullpen in baseball to the
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  Speaker 1: best bullpen in baseball exactly, and then I guess, uh wait,
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  Speaker 1: they got JP c ars. Is that right? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right, yeah, I mean he's.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's okay. But my point is like,
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  Speaker 2: if you can get your starting you know, four or
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  Speaker 2: five pitchers to get you, you know, five innings, six innings,
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  Speaker 2: and only give up two runs, like we're gonna shut
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  Speaker 2: you out after that. So I like our chances. I
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  Speaker 2: think we're gonna I think we're gonna make the Dodgers
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  Speaker 2: really sweat the pennant.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you do, because I don't want to see
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers do anything. Dodgers and Yankees just get rid
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  Speaker 1: of them and then I don't care who wins besides that.
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  Speaker 1: Really yeah, same, yeah, thanks everybody for hanging out in
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  Speaker 1: the chat. By the way, did the Red Sox bring
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  Speaker 1: in enough pitching help? No? And they gave up too
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  Speaker 1: much for it. The Red Sox made two moves and
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  Speaker 1: they got one of the better relievers from the Cardinals,
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  Speaker 1: and I think they gave up too much to get him,
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  Speaker 1: and they just got today. They got Dustin May from
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers. He sucks like he's basically on par well,
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  Speaker 1: he's young, but he's basically on par with like all
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  Speaker 1: the other Red Sox pitchers. Who all pretty much sucks.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't see, and they gave up Tibbs for
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  Speaker 1: him the best part of the deal that they made
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  Speaker 1: for Devers. TIBs is a power hitting outfielder. No, let's
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  Speaker 1: just trade him. We have too many out They do
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  Speaker 1: have too many outfielders. But still, what if.
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  Speaker 2: The check could confirm if our levels are equal? I
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  Speaker 2: would appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, horr o levels? Yeah, well yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I'm always below Clint though. I mean, let's just face it.
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  Speaker 2: No, but we we cranked you up before this showing
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  Speaker 2: you sound you sound good to me right now, so
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  Speaker 2: I just oh, well, self deprecation aside. I just want
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  Speaker 2: to make sure our levels are the same, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, butywaill, Yeah we will. We'll see what happens. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, Andrew h. Clint is slightly louder. Well that's
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  Speaker 1: part of the course. And again away I think so
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  Speaker 1: probably were all right anyway. Yeah, we'll get into a
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  Speaker 1: football which you're not paying attention to it all. I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to pay attention to it. You're Chargers, I believe
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  Speaker 1: are winning this Hall of Fame game right now, which
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter at all.
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  Speaker 2: But nope, but we're up fourteen nothing, which means we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna win Super Bowl, So in your fucking face, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: Well we can get into it, man. I figured we'll
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  Speaker 1: just go like division by division basically and just throw out, like,
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  Speaker 1: who do we think is gonna win this division? Who
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  Speaker 1: else do you think is gonna make the playoffs? They
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  Speaker 1: are three wild cards now in each conference, and I
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  Speaker 1: guess who's gonna be in the super Bowl and win
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? I guess, just crapshoot, basically throw shit
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  Speaker 1: at the wall. Though I do. I do have betting
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  Speaker 1: odds up as well, and I can tell you what
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  Speaker 1: some of the moves have been. I mean, we could
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  Speaker 1: start in the AFC East, where the team that I
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  Speaker 1: formerly rooted for is in there, the New England Patriots
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  Speaker 1: with Buffalo Miami and the New York Jets. Obviously, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: are we're gonna We're probably gonna have the same pick
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  Speaker 1: on this one. Who do we think is gonna win
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  Speaker 1: this division? I mean the major changes here. Earlier that
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots brought him Mike Vrabel as head coach, they
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  Speaker 1: brought Josh McDaniels back as OC, so huge coaching changes there. Personnel, wise,
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  Speaker 1: not like major differences really, And the Jets have a
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  Speaker 1: new head coach as well as Aaron Glenn, who is
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  Speaker 1: a former Jet player, was the defensive coordinator Lions for
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  Speaker 1: the Lions. Yeah, so they lost. Lions lost both of
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  Speaker 1: their coordinators.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I like Aaron Glenn. But there's the Jets have
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  Speaker 2: no chance. The Patriots have no chance. It's either the
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  Speaker 2: Dolphins or the Bills. Is to is to a healthy.
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  Speaker 1: I guess to start the season supposedly, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, well, I actually like the Dolphins a decent amount,
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  Speaker 2: but I would obviously the odds must be for the Bills, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, uh, there they are minus three ten
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  Speaker 1: to in the ANFC East, Patriots' second best odds.
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  Speaker 2: Oh interesting at plus four seventy five. I would I
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  Speaker 2: would go Bills, Dolphins, Pats, Jets if I was picking.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's fine, don't I assume it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: the Bills regardless.
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  Speaker 1: The Bills, I mean they're basically the same team again.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they basically lose in the playoffs at some
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  Speaker 1: point every single year. But I think they're gonna do
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  Speaker 1: it again. They're gonna get there. I mean this division,
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  Speaker 1: I mean the Patriots should improve, but they have so
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  Speaker 1: many changes, you know, they have to get used to
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  Speaker 1: this new system. Whatever. Even though I think Vrabel's a
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  Speaker 1: good coach, it's gonna be good for them. They they
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  Speaker 1: got Stefan Diggs as well for some offensive help there.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't see the Patriots doing it right away,
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  Speaker 1: although they they may come in second, like I might
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  Speaker 1: put them in this exact order that the odds aver
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  Speaker 1: whge is boring. But Miami, I just I think they
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  Speaker 1: stink Man isn't healthy, Like if he goes down at
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  Speaker 1: some point during the season, seems like it always happens.
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  Speaker 1: Their defense sucks. I think they still have Mike McDaniels
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  Speaker 1: as their coach, right, he's a clown.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, am I misremembering or did Tua not have
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  Speaker 2: a decent bounce back year last year?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he did. I think he was hard
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  Speaker 1: again Miami. I think he was like in and out
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  Speaker 1: of the lineup.
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  Speaker 2: Like I thought he was really solid when he was playing.
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  Speaker 2: I could be wrong, though.
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  Speaker 1: I think I picked him up in fantasy, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if that really matters. I don't think he
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  Speaker 1: was that good.
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  Speaker 2: You wouldn't pick up him in fantasy if he wasn't
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  Speaker 2: putting a some numbers. So yeah, I think my I
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  Speaker 2: think my recollection is correct. I could be wrong, but
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  Speaker 2: I think that he he played well, but he's like,
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  Speaker 2: he's obviously a feather a feather tackle away from having
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  Speaker 2: a concussion in his career ending. So I think the
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  Speaker 2: I think it's the Bills to lose. If they lose it, it
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  Speaker 2: would be a major disappointment.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. I think they will do it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they basically have the same team again, same coach,
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  Speaker 1: I think, same coaching staff whatever. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty much the same. I do have the coaching
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  Speaker 1: changes up here, by the way, which most of the changes,
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  Speaker 1: as I already said, are on New England in this division.
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  Speaker 1: This year they brought an all new, an entirely new
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  Speaker 1: coaching staff. As you can see, it's well, so did
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  Speaker 1: the Jets.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean I like that. I like that the
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  Speaker 2: Pats just like just rewound ten years. Like, yeah, let's
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  Speaker 2: just give us Rabel and McDaniels.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Vrabel was a player for them, right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't a coach for them, right or was he?
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  Speaker 1: I don't even remember now.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. But my point is it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's they're just like grasping for their old glory. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, we'll see if it works out. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think Rabel was anything special. Wasn't he with
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  Speaker 2: the Titans? Or who was he with the Lions?
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  Speaker 1: Titans and he got them to the playoffs. I think
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  Speaker 1: most years that he was their head coach, and it
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  Speaker 1: seemed to me like he was doing that with less
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  Speaker 1: talent than than you would think. Really. I mean, Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Tannehill was their quarterback. He's not good. They had Derreck
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  Speaker 1: Henry obviously, but.
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  Speaker 2: Well I could win a couple games with Derrick Henry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. The Patriots, I don't even know who they
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  Speaker 1: have for running backs of this one. I think actually
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  Speaker 1: they did pick somebody up, right, and I could look quickly.
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  Speaker 1: I think they had some changes here for the Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: They have no they still have Stevenson. I guess they
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  Speaker 1: picked up Antonio Gibson for like running back depth, but
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  Speaker 1: they still have Stevenson. Obviously. They have Drake May. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's he's probably going to improve, in my opinion, I
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  Speaker 1: would see he showed some glimpses of being all right
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  Speaker 1: when they they put him in like halfway through the
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  Speaker 1: season last year. Also bills for both of us in
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  Speaker 1: that division. Jets, I agree with your Jets will be
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  Speaker 1: last place. I think they're a total dormat man. I
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  Speaker 1: mean the Jets. Who who was their quarterback at this
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  Speaker 1: point for the Jets, I think it was whoever they
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  Speaker 1: have already got hurt in the preseason Win a minute, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's justin Fields. Yeah, and Tyrod Taylor will back him up.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's interest because Tyron Taylor is like actually a
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  Speaker 2: decent talent quarterback. I don't know why he's always a backup.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, people saying this feels right with two fensive tower
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  Speaker 1: gang Zach, what's up man? Zach always rooting for the
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  Speaker 1: Royals there? Yeah, I agree with you that. I think
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  Speaker 1: Tyron Taylor could be a starter. Like when he was
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  Speaker 1: on the Giants for a while and he was constantly
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  Speaker 1: backing up Daniel Jones, and it seemed like they were
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  Speaker 1: almost better when Tyron Taylor was in there over Daniel Jones.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think he started a couple of games
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  Speaker 2: for the Seahawks last season too, and like won a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of games, or maybe it was two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just Tyrod Taylor was a backup
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  Speaker 2: for the Chargers for a while. I've always been impressed
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  Speaker 2: with the guy. I think that he's like a legit pro.
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  Speaker 2: But I think I think the Bears, you know, gave
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  Speaker 2: up on fields really quickly, so you never know. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: he's got life in him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, he's going to be number one for the
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  Speaker 1: Jets if he comes back from injury. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: like a toe injury, so I'm sure he will be back.
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  Speaker 1: The AFC North might be more interesting. Have Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland,
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  Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh in this division, and of course, uh some
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  Speaker 1: of the major changes area. Well, Pittsburgh probably the most
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  Speaker 1: major changes where they have Aaron Rodgers as their starting
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  Speaker 1: quarterback now and they drafted Will Howard and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if he's gonna be the backup er. Do they
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  Speaker 1: have another quarterback in there too? And they lost inn
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  Speaker 1: Agie Harris, but they brought in your guy. I think
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Warren is there starting running back now.
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  Speaker 2: They still have.
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  Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph, Jalen Warren. I'm pretty sure it was on
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers, right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't I don't recognize the name.
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  Speaker 1: I think he was. Maybe I'm wrong. This show's how
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  Speaker 1: retired we are. No, I'm thinking of somebody else. Never Mind,
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  Speaker 1: he was on Pittsburgh anyway. Never mind, he's their starter now,
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  Speaker 1: so that's great for them. But they do have Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Rodgers now, and they brought in Robert Woods and uh,
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  Speaker 1: they've got Calvin Austin and they got DK Metcalf. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: they did change their wide receiver corps, so Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: Probably, Like I like that receiver corps. That's pretty dope.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, if they if they can jive
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  Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. Dude, I think Aaron Rodgers. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the media just shits on him all the time because
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  Speaker 1: of his you know, ayahuasca trips and his especially because
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  Speaker 1: of his vaccine shit, the anti vax shit. I still
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  Speaker 1: like Rogers. And you look at his stats last year,
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  Speaker 1: besides the increase in interceptions, his stats weren't that bad.
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  Speaker 1: He was on a terrible Jets team. Like, I think
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  Speaker 1: this it's a better situation from h the Steelers Mike.
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  Speaker 2: Tomlin by by a million miles, Like if he's got
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  Speaker 2: anything left in the tank, no excuses this year, Like
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  Speaker 2: you either deliver now or you are obviously washed. So
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  Speaker 2: I think he's got a chance. I think he's got
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  Speaker 2: a chance of actually winning the division with them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's got his uh, his mystery wife. You
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  Speaker 1: hear about that, or he won't say who it is.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, I'm married now and I won't tell you
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  Speaker 1: who I'm married to. It. People are like, it's a dude,
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  Speaker 1: Like yeah, Like, I don't know he's he seems happy, but.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, Dude. I fucking like the guy so
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  Speaker 2: much because like, who who else does what he's done
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  Speaker 2: over the past five years, Like nobody? So I'm rooting
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  Speaker 2: for Aaron Rodgers, nobuddy.
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  Speaker 1: And I think he has to do better than he
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  Speaker 1: did last because last year, remember he was he had
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: an entire season injured prior to that.
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  Speaker 2: So well, the Jets are just the dregs, Like why
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  Speaker 2: would you expect anybody to succeed with them?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Pittsburgh has this run. Mike Tomlin has the longest.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's tied currently for the longest streak for
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  Speaker 1: a head coach having no losing seasons. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: twenty one straight seasons now for Mike Tomlin.
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  Speaker 2: He had a couple five hundred seasons in there. But yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: he's he's had an incredible run, and you know, kudos
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  Speaker 2: to him and I I think if there's anything left
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  Speaker 2: in the tank, Tomlin will squeeze it out of him.
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  Speaker 2: This receiver corp will squeeze it out of him. I
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  Speaker 2: think that they'll probably have a better How could they
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: have a worse O line than the Jets did? Like,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: I just I think that they're going to give it
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: a real run. I think that the line is.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Bad though, Pittsburgh that is it is a problem.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I still feel like they're going to give
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: him more protection than the Jets had. But I think
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: that the I guess the wild card is Who's I
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: don't know what the hell has happened with the Browns.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: They're like, so.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: There there are show, dude. I mean, I can't believe
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: they haven't fired their coach.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Dude, Joe Flacco is gonna be their starter?
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah shit, Joe. They have Kenny Pickett on their team now,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: they drafted Dylan Gabriel and Sanders and Joe Flacco's currently
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: their number one.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be rooting hard
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: for Shaudure. That'd be great if he could actually get
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: some snaps and do something.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I can't stand him. I hate him. I think it
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: was all nepotism. I think he's gonna suck.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Well, no, he might. I'm just saying I like, I
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: like underdog stories, and you know he obviously he wasn't
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: an underdog in college. He was like the overdog of overdogs.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: But in the NFL, like no one, no one has
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: any faith in him. And at also, I would love
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: to see him do something.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: You know, his numbers retired At the University of Colorado,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: he went thirteen to twelve as a quarterback there.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: By the way, you know, his dad's like legit on
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Death Store because of vaccine injuries.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Are you serious?
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, Like, yeah, that's why he's Uh. He almost
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: lost his leg due to clotting in his lower extremities,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: which was certainly vaccine induced. He got he got multiple boosters. Yeah,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: he got multiple boosters. He almost lost his leg. Now
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: now he's got really like turbo cancer and his bladder
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: which they had They had to replace his bladder with
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: a portion of his large intestine. So like now he
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: pisses out of his ship tube.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Wait, wait right, wait a minute, they replaced part of
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: his intestine with part of his bladder or the other
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: are round?
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, he had turbo cancer in
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: his bladder bro which is super rare.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: So they took part of his intestine and fixed his
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: bladder with it.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: So now no, no, no, no, no no, they they made
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: a new bladder out of lower intestine. No ship, so
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: now he's or I guess there's probably some ship left, right,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: So that.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: So that means he's gonna be Yeah, he's going to
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: be shipping out of his urethra.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Basically, no, he's going to be pissing out of his shipter.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Uh. Okay, you know, I think I think the opposite
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: is true because yet then.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: No, it's both. It's both actually because he's gonna piss
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: out of his ship tube because it's his lower intestine,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: which is where the piss will be. But that he's
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: gonna piss, that he's gonna piss little ship flakes out
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: of his urethras. So we're both right.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Maybe he just says one hole. Now he's like a platypus.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Anyways, I love I love Deon Stders. He was such
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: an inspiration to me as a kid, and it kills
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: me that he's, like he's so obviously destroyed his body
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: by going down that path, and like he won't acknowledge it.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: No one talks about it, but I'm gonna talk about
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: it because it's the truth. He fucking nearly he probably
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: shortened his life thirty years by doing that.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Shit, We're gonna get better off Dead Band, And I think, dude,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I haven't been a fan of Dion, but I think
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I've heard that he was still gonna coach this year
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: at Colorado. But maybe he's not. I don't know, dude.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, they legitimately had to replace his fucking bladder
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: with a shit pipe, So like, who knows.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know either, But yeah, in this division, yeah, Cleveland,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I mean they're a wild card, I guess, and that
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: you have no idea what they're gonna do, but they
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be the last place seam in this division.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: And let's be real about that. Baltimore is basically the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: same team they were last year, and so Cincinnati. And
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I think Cincinnati, I mean, they missed out on the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: playoffs basically just because they lost some close games and
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: their defense does suck, but their offenses not, you know,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I mean they yeah, they have.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I think they rattled off like like eight of their
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: last nine like they were totally out of it, and
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: then they almost almost climb back in.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: So I think it would, yeah, a game against the
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Steelers away from making the playoffs.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, I think the Bengals are probably the team
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: to look out for is like a wild card out
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: of that division. But I would still say it's the
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Ravens to lose. The Steelers would The Steelers would probably
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: be like minus two hundred to win the Vision. I'm guessing.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Ravens. You mean minus two hundred. Ravens are minus one
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: sixty five, Bengals are up at plus two seventy, and
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Steelers plus five hundred of the breass Basically, Browns basically
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: have no chance.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I think I think those odds are I
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: would actually have the Steelers like in in alignment with
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: the Bengals maybe, but whatever, it's close enough.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Steelers definitely have a shot.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is still gonna be a really good division,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: except the Browns I think are going to be a
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: total dorm mat. But the other three teams are gonna
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: be good.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be like the AFC West is usually
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: where there's three really solid teams and one piece of
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: shit team.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Ravens still win this division. Cincinnati,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I still see Cincinnati is the biggest threat, but I
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: really still don't like their defense, and you know they
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, I don't know about him, man, I mean
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just he just kind of angers
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: me just because he's a fashion east Like this guy's gay.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Well, he just dresses. He just dresses terribly. I don't mind.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I don't mind if you're like into fashion, but you
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: can't dress like fucking Ellen degenerous. Dude. He looks terrible,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah he did.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah he looks like Megan Rapiano or something. But yeah,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: that's that's it.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: He looks like a lesbian, Like, why are you dressing lesbian?
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: You're worth one hundreds of millions of dollars. Stop it,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: all right?
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Uh. The AFC South is definitely where we go out
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: because this.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Is Oh, I don't know anything about these teams.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Both both souths are the these are the both of
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the worst divisions in football, man, Like AFC South to me,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: It's like it's almost like any of these teams could
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: win this division because none of these teams are dominant men.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: The Houston Texans are going to be similar to last
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: year where c J. Stroud, you know, he took a
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: major step back. Their offense was way worse last year
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: than it was the previous year. Part of it was
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: because their old line is terrible and they haven't really
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: fixed their own line. But their defense got way better
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: last year. So Houston, they're gonna be a similar team
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: to last year. I would imagine.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I would say the Texans are the favorite in that one.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: They are Indianapolis. I mean, I think India. We don't
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: even know what's going on with their quarterback because they
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: still have Richardson he's hurt, although he's still listed as
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: their starter, and they have Daniel Jones out and they
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: drafted Riley Leonard. If Richardson has heard, it looks like
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is going to be their starter, which would
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: not be a good thing. Yeah, but they still have Taylor,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: who when he's healthy, he's one of the He's an elite.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: He's a beast. But I would not I would not
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: be putting money on them.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, the Colts are actually my team since
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I left the Patriots for Peyton Manning because I hated
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Brady and Belichick. So I'm like, I'm a Peyton Manning fan.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Man I was always a Peyton Manning fan, so I
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: rooted for them. So I'm still on the Colts bandwagon. O.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Their owner died, I believe right during this offseason, Erthsa,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: so maybe it'll be like, let's step up and let's
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: play one.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: But we got the season for him. Now they got
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: rid of that crackhead, maybe all they'll improve. That dude
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: was a real piece of ship, by the way.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean a lot.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Of these owners are, but I usually try. I usually
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: try not to talk bad about the dead, but like
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: that guy was a real fuck, like an obvious stumbag
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: his You know, those those rich dudes who face whose
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: faces are always like like beat red because they're just
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: such obvious alcoholics and drug addicts. Like that's who jimr was.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: It's it's the demon in the man of Jim irsay.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: His thing was like he collected rock memorabilia to like
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: a huge extent. I saw him in some documentary. Maybe
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: it was one of the hard Knocks or something, or
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: he's just talking about like all the ship, yeah, that
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: he had, like his all of his rock memorabilia. I'm like,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I kind of want that, like if I had money.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, by the way, should be starting really soon.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be the Buffalo bills on Hard Knocks this year.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: By the way, she could be potentially interesting. Get to
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: see some of Josh Allen's girlfriend there, Haley Steinfeld.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I'm a fan, dude that I really enjoyed Centers by
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: the way, Sinners.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet, but I'm expecting it to
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: be race baiting bullshit. But maybe I'm wrong.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: No, it is, but it's like it's, uh, she in that. Yeah,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: she's the lead, like the lead actress.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: All right, then I am gonna watch it and probably
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: jerk off.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Well that's tm I but yeah, like I thought that,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: what's the name of the actor? The black dude.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. I have no idea who the
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: lead is.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Jordan Jordan B Anthony, Not Jordan B Anthony, Michael Jordan,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Michael B. Jordan's George Anthony. Yeah, Michael V. George Jordan.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like Michael Jordan but gay because.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: He well, he he plays the lead and it's him
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: playing himself or playing a twin, so it's these twin
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: brothers and they're like, uh, they're moonshiners. Anyways, it's a
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: fucking it's a really good movie. And yes it's got
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: race baiting, and yes, the white people are the devil
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: and yes all that, and it's like and trust me,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: it bothers me just as much as it bothers you.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: But if you can, if you can get over that,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I promise you. It's a fucking fun, fun movie. All right.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I guess I'll have to watch it right now. I'm
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: going through the uh the old Hitchcock movies that are
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: on Netflix before they go away, but I'm not gonna
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: finish all of them. But that's what I've been doing anyway. Yeah,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the Colts, I mean the Colts are kind of a
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: wild card. They're like, if they stay healthy and like,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: if they can get something out of their quarterback, they
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: could compete in this division. Man. I mean they usually
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: are kind of right there, like one or two games away,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: so I mean, we'll see what happens with them. Jacksonville,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, Trevor Lawrence has basically not been healthy for years.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. It all depends on whether or
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: not he's gonna be healthy. Because Jacksonville, I think they
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: have like the highest ceiling in like the lowest four here,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Like they could do anything to me. Jacksonville. Jacksonville, though,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: they have a new head coach, which is Liam Cohen
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I believe is his name. He was the one that
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Duvall video. Did you see that? He came out and
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: you're like very unemphatically like gave like the I guess
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: that's like the Jacksonville cheer or whatever, and it was
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: like the most unemphatic bullshit that you'll ever see, Like,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: what is up with this guy? Like he's a total clown.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: But I guess he's supposedly a good coach. I don't
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: even know where he came from, but he's the new
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville head coach there.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not I'm not gonna be betting on them either.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, in this division we have, Jacksonville has the
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: second best odds at plus two ninety, Houston's only at
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: plus one ten, and then Tennessee actually not even that
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: far off at plus six hundred. I mean, this could
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: be a wild care man Tennessee of course. Basically, well, uh,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I mean they have a new head coach, I believe, right,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: because well, how long has Rabel been gone? I don't
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: even know. Man, maybe am I talking about? No? They
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: still Brian Callahan? What am I saying?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: So they kept Brian Callahan. I'm in there for one year.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: But then the big change for Tennessee is they draft
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: to cam Ward number one overall, and he is going
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: to be their starter. And Will Levis is out for
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the season now anyway, so they basically don't even have
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: a choice but to go with cam Ward at this point.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: As of late, there's always been this, you know, one
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: top draft pick quarterback who kind of bursts on the
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: scene and does well. I guess cam Ward would be
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: the odds on favorite to do that for them, But
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I still my expectation is year three, c J. Stroud,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: you know, bounces back hard and the Texans run away
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: with it. That's my guest. But we'll see.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I see them running away with it.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: And then we do have a strength of schedule here,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: by the way, if we just want to take a
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: look at that. Interestingly, the Bills actually, even though they
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: won the division. Usually the teams that win the division
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: because they have to play all the other division winners,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: they usually don't have an easy schedule. Bills actually have
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: a somewhat easy schedule. Jacksonvills is actually one of the
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: top easiest as well Patriots forty nine ers because the
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers, you know, had a really bad record
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: last year. Some of the most difficult are Cleveland, the
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Giants even like the worst teams anyway, and Ryan's and
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia and Chiefs Vikings. I mean they get no uh
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: no reprieve either. Houston's is very difficult too though, because
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: they won the division last year, so their schedule gets
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: a bit difficult. So I don't know, man, I mean,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: how I might go Jaguars in this division. I mean,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: something tells me it's not gonna be Houston this time.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, We'll see. That'll be interesting.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be close. I think the Jaguars
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: might rise up. I think these other teams could, uh.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's just gonna be basically, it's
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a cluster fuck in this division. Basically,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I think whoever wins that division is gonna be out
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs, you know, But.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think they'll be. There'll be a walk
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: through in the first round. But I really think c J.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Stroud's gonna bounce back. He was so awesome as a rookie.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I'd be surprised if he just continues to decline. But
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: you never know.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: They need offensive lineup. But also they did have a
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: lot of wide receiver injuries last year, so that didn't help.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Joe Mixon is injured right now, I guess, but he
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: is there. But they do have Nick Chubb now, so
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna bounce back, but they
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: have Collins still. They have Tank Dell but looks like
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: he's currently injured as well, and they have Christian Kirk,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: who I think they added at some point. So they
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: still have like a decent wide receiver core there on
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: that team if they're healthy. But last year, I mean,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: they have major wide receiver injuries that didn't help.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Let's move on to the only division that matters.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're AFC west Man case Raiders and Chargers. Of course.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Basically the major change here pretty much is that the
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Raiders have Pete Carroll as their head coach now, and
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: one of their big offseason moves was to get Christian
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Wilkins is at his name, and now he's already off the
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: team for being a home in the locker room?
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Did did you see that? Look if you can't kiss
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: your teammates, like, what are we even doing?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah? And he was their best defensive line and then he's
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: already off the team.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: You know. The only the whole reason the targeting fell
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: apart is because I wasn't allowed to kiss you guys,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: And I think that that that kept us going.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's true. So yeah, this division, I mean,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: we know Kansas City is basically the same as last year,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: though Rashie Rice is gonna miss part of the season
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: because he caused a six car accident while drunk and
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: driving over one hundred miles an hour. So I don't
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: know if you've heard about that.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: But that came down awesome move. Bro.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Rice is suspended. Casey, I mean obviously they have Mahomes,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid, they have pretty much the same team. Travis Kelcey,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: is he gonna take a step back because he was
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: in Happy Gilmore two.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Well he took it. He took a
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: huge step back last season, so.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because the Taylor Swift, well.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I don't I just think he's getting old, dude. I
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: think he's he's really pose. I don't know, don't care.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying neat he played terribly last season.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they do have Zaander were they looks like
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the real deal, man. I mean, he was amazing in
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the later parts of the Super Bowl. He's insane. And
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: then of course Skenver.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: He's got incredible speed, but his hands are shit.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. Denver might. Uh. I don't know what
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Denver is gonna do, man, because it's the second season
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: with bo Nicks and with Sean Payton, which doesn't mean
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you know, second year. I think it's is it second
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: or third with Peyton now, because it doesn't mean they're
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: gonna know, you know the system now. But these rookie quarterbacks, man,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of times they take a step back in
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: year two. So I'm not sure about Denver. And then
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: you have your LA Chargers second year under horror Ball,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: which I think is a good thing because now they're
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: used to their system and used to his system. And dude,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: everybody like the being you know in the betting world
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: over here. Chargers are almost always like an anti public
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: player right now because Harrball's style of offense is like,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna run the ball constantly, We're gonna ball control,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: We're gonna keep possessed the ball as much as possible,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: not gonna turn the ball over, and it's gonna like
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: let our defense rest basically, which is a good recipe
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: for winning games, but the public doesn't like to bet
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: on it because, oh, that means their offense sucks. But
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: that's not really the case. It actually like it.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: It also means that you're gonna be in a lot
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: of close games because that the downside of that style
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: is that you don't win a lot of games by
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: twenty plus points. That's sure, you're gonna be in a
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: lot of one and two possession games. And that's why
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: the Chargers usually come down to like are we gonna
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: be ten and seven? Are we gonna be you know, eight, nine,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: nine and eight? Or do we actually break through? I
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: think we've got a chance to break through, but I
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: don't know what moves we've made this offseason. Do we
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: bring anybody in anything?
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Nachie Harris.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: He's a running back, right, Yeah.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: He was basically ass on Pittsburgh for a long time.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: But he's he's apparently hurt right now, but I don't
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna be hurt for like a significant period
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: of time. I don't know, a lot of these guys
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: are just listed as injury right now. But it's preseason
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: He's mccauckie McConkey was our only receiver last year. We
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: need Quentin Johnson to step up. Bad dude. He he
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: was like terrible for us. See this is the problem,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Like You've got such a good quarterback and we just
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: are not surrounding him with the weapons necessary.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Right And Herbert, I mean, he's been dealing with injuries.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think he was healthy last year, man, so
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I kind of think he might be Dude.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Herbert played, Herbert played. Herbert played really well, given like
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: he had no tools. Like Lad McConkie was this like
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: rookie from nowhere that just exploded on the scene because
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: of Herbert. So Herbert's that good that he can like
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: turn you know, B minus material into a material. But
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I would really like it if we
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: had a couple couple legit number ones.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I kind of like it though, just
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: again because of the ball control style offense, They're gonna
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: be running the ball a lot. And I think Harris
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: is actually an improvement from what they had lad Like,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: who the hell did they even have last year for
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: running backs? I couldn't even tell you. Yeah, so now
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: they have Nagy, that's an improvement.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, no, it should be. Actually he's he's kind
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: of a bruiser, isn't he.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's big. He's a big dude. He's kind of
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a power back. I didn't have the right system. I
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: think in Pittsburgh their run blocking was terrible.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: And yeah, so I think I think that's the play.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: But I think the question is do we have the
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: weapons around Herbert's actually, like, when you're playing these close
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: style games, do you have enough to actually make sure
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: that you can go get a touchdown in the late
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: and the fourth? I think Herbert obviously has the skills
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: to do that, but does he have the tools so
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: we'll see.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, So I mean that's basically U. I mean
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: that's this division.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: So I think I think the Chiefs are probably like
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: as vulnerable as they've been in a long time because
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: they're aging.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Oh right, Yeah, and then the Raiders actually have an
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: entirely new offense basically too, because they got Geno Smith
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: and they drafted Ash and gent was going to be
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: their starting running back this year. So Raiders kind of
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: a wildcard actually with Pete Carroll as head coach.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I would not I would. I would say
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: that they're going to be last place in the AFC West, but.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I would agree with you. I agree, yeah, But this
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: is this is a good division. I think this division
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: is actually better than the AFC North this year. This
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: is difficult division.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Manh It's tough. I would be surprised if the order
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: isn't the same as last season. I think it'll be Chiefs, Chargers,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Broncos Raiders.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: That is probably the way that the odds are. Let
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: me say Chiefs are minus one twenty not out of
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: huge favorite Broncos plus three hundred, Chargers plus three ten,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: and then the Raiders way down at plus two thousand. Uh.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: You know, I would have the Chargers obviously ahead of
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: the Broncos, but.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: So do I. I guess I'll go with the Chiefs.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna be close, man. I mean,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs losing the Super Bowl that you usually wind
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: up in that in a curse. Man, Like the Super
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Bowl loser always takes a step back to next year.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: They always have like pretty much a bad season. Chiefs
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: won so many close games last year and man, yeah
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: their defense is still good, but and they have some weapons.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I guess around Mahomes again, but I don't know how
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: much I really trust the Chiefs. Man, I'll go with
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: them my guests to win this division. But I think
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: the Chargers are gonna be second or first in this division.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I think Chargers definitely have a shot too.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but I always feel that way, so
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: I'm too biased to actually have a real opinion on this.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I think the Broncos have a greater chance than the
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Chargers to fall off more than what they were aloud.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I think they were a little bit overrated last year,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: to be honest, the Broncos.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Well, it's just so rare to have a rookie quarterback
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: do what he did. To expect him to duplicate that
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: and to improve is like, that's rare, super rare.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And part of it is that the league now like, oh,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: they see what you just did with your offense, and
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: now they kind of know well.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Exactly, and it didn't take him. Yeah, they also didn't
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: take him seriously because he's a rookie, so like you
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: think you're just going to beat the shout of him,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: and then they're like, oh, this guy is like actually
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: a problem. But now that he's a problem, they're going
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: to try and solve it. So yeah, i'd say they
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: probably end up. You know, you can't go five hundred
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: now because the seventeen game season. But somewhere in that arena, all.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Right, who are your three wild cards? Clinton, the teams
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: that will make the playoffs in the AFC that are
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: not your division winners?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Scroll up again?
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: We got I'm assuming you're probably gonna go with Cincinnati
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: as one of them, and you sounded like you like Pittsburgh.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think since the Pittsburgh and the Chargers is probably.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Chargers, right, say, Yeah, you basically implied that, Yeah, there
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: are only so many, so many spots that you can
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: get here. Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm gonna go with
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati as well for one of them. I mean I
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: think that division, I mean, those are good teams, man,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I'll go to Cincinnati to be one of them. I'll
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: go with the Chargers as well, because I think since
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Kansas City and the Charger, they're both gonna make the
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: playoffs in my opinion, so there'll be one two, and
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know which order it's gonna be. In Chiefs
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: probably won, but I think it's close. And then I
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: will go with I'm gonna go with I'll go with Pittsburgh.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with that. I'll go there. But I
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: picked it. I know, I picked Jacksonville instead of Houston
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: though in the AFC ceuth, So I'm saying Houston misses
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the playoffs.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: That's you know what I'm saying. You have the exact
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: same wild cards as me and I do than other
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: than the AFC South. We agreed. So we're in trouble.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: We're in trouble. Don't don't bet on this, folks.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, all right, NFC East, we have Dallas Giants,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia and Washington. Dallas fired Mike McCarthy finally, so they
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: actually elevated from within and now they're head coaches Brian
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Schottenheim or which may not be a good thing for them,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: but I mean, could you really get worse than having
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: McCarthy there? And Dallas spent most of the last season
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: without Dak Prescott, so he is going to be back.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: And I mean, just like always, Dallas has Dack. They
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: have good wide receivers. They have terrible running backs. I
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: don't even know who the running backs are, to be honest,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: they have probably the worst running back corps in the
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: entire league. And defense is usually like they stacked their
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: defense with some talent and they never do well.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: So that's.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Giants. I don't even know if the Giants, Yeah,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: kept Brian Daball. I don't don't even know why. And Giants,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: of course they picked up Russell Wilson, so he's gonna
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: be their starting quarterback, and they drafted Jackson Dart and
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: but they also have James Winston. He should be the start.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I like Winston. I don't understand why he's not the starter.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: He should be, dude, he is. He has so much
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: more upside than Russell Wilson. Wilson is so old.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: And then Philly.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Basically the same, and then Washington basically Washington's like kind
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: of big addition pretty much was Deebo Samuel.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Who's the Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts, Oh yeah, and.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Then they won the Super Bowl last year and they
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: basically bringing the whole team back for yeah.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Last Yeah, I mean, I like the Commanders or Redskins whatever,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I think that. I think that those like, to me,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: it's a two horse race, it's Eagles Redskins.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty sure the odds are going
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: to reflect that as well. Although I think I think
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Dallas people are not giving Dallas as much of a
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: chance as maybe they should have. We have minus won
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: thirty Washing plus two o five Dallas plus five fifty
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: and Giants like don't even consider that.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: It's not it's not that I'm not giving the Cowboys
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: a chance. It's just that, like every season they're hyped
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: to be something, and every season it feels like they
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe they sneak into the playoffs and they
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: don't do anything, or they get or they have a
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: terrible year. So like I just don't have any faith,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that makes sense. I mean, I don't
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: know why you would, but it seems like they do
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: basically like always make the playoffs as long as they
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: have Dak Prescott there, and last year was so bad
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: for them. But people I think are gonna kind of
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: underrate them a little bit this year because they look
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: at how bad they were last year, but it was
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: because Prescott wasn't there. And to me, I think Washington
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: is gonna be in a sophomore slump man. I mean,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I know they had a Deebo sam Well, they have
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: all this talent jayde Daniels. Again, like you said with
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: bon Nicks, I think people did not take Daniel seriously.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: So I think Daniels, you know, the league might have
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: figured something out with them. I think they're gonna take
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: a step back. Man.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Watch there's just You're right, and I'm totally like backtracking off.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: And their defense isn't that good, even though I believe
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: they did. Add do they have no Broncos added green Law?
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: What am I saying? Green Law from San Francisco's on
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the Broncos. Now, Broncos are gonna have a really good defense. Man.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I know I'm backing off of what I just said
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: about the Broncos and bow Knicks, but there is something
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: to be said about star power and that kid for
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the fucking Redskins has unbelievable charisma that that doesn't that
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that he won't have a step back like c. J.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Stroud had an incredible charisma and he took a real
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: step back. But this dude played like a fucking superstar
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: as a rookie. So it'll be interesting.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but so did C J. Stroud do not make Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: the parlay if one of them goes down, one leg
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: goes down, the whole thing goes down.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I promise you we're not gonna get every pick, right,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I promise you.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: That you're parlay is going to turn into Greg abb
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I'm gonna go. I mean, I
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: think Phil wins this division again, even though I tend
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: to think that the super Bowl winner kind of gets
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: over hyped a little bit. But I stillain Either're gonna
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: win this division again, Philly. I mean, I don't really
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: see any of the other teams actually doing it.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I think the Skins are the wildcard. Yeah, I mean,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I'm like, like in the wildcard, not the wildcard to
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: win the Division's that's my guess.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I might go Dallas coming in second of this division, to.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Be honest, So you think you think the Redskins are
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: going to fall off that much? Huh? I do?
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, we'll see their.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Season win toll. I mean, they won thirteen games last year,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I think, or whatever it was, and their season win
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: toll is nine and a half this year at the books.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well but ten and seven gets you in though,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: it does, so there's.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Something going on with that. I'll have to see what
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I think about the other wildcards that we got. NFC
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: North is probably the best division in all football, except
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: maybe for your AFC West. Well, actually, Raiders are probably
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: worse than the Bears. Man, But I don't know about
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: the Bears. I mean, I don't know if I trust
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: the Bears. The Bears did get rid of Matt Eberfluse
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: ever flush their quarter they're on coach, their head coach.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: He was terrible, dude. He's now he's the defensive coordinator
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: somewhere else. Now where is he at? No, not really,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: but he's uh yeah there he's at Dallas actually there.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, there you go. The who's a quarterback for the Bears.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. Yeah, the gay guy paints his nails, has
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: a pink phone case.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Said like, he's obviously kissing his teammates. What's why isn't
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: he off the team?
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I know? And Ben Johnson is there is their head coach.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Now the former really good offensive coordinator from Detroit is
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: the head coach of Chicago. Now he's gone to their rival.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: That's that's going to be interesting with Detroit losing their
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: OC and DC.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Detroit lost both of them, correct, Yeah, and kept
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Dan Campbell's head coach. So Chicago is the new head
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: coach Green Bay. I mean basically kept their guys green Bay.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I mean Jordan Love was kind of injured last year,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: so I think a lot of Green Bay is gonna
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: depend on whether or not he's healthy. Minnesota does not
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: have Sam Darnold anymore, which I think he sucks, so
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I think that isn't even a negative for them. They're
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: going with what their original play on was last year,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: which was they drafted JJ mccarthy'd BEI their start or
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: right away last year. He got hurt in pre season
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: last year, and he is healthy now and he is
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: going to be their starter now. JJ McCarthy is the
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: quarterback from the Minnesota Vikings.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Now, I don't have any expectations for him at all,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: So I have no idea.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what to think about him. Man.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I could see that going really well or really poorly,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: and I really don't Yeah, I mean I think the
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Vikings they're kind of like what I said with the Jaguars.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I think the Vikings could wind up really really good
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: or they could just drop off quite a bit. But
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: they seem to always be fairly good under Kevin O'Connell
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: almost kind of regardless of it was there. They still
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: have probably the best wide receiver in all football. Justin
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Jefferson is still there.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Dude, that guy is fucking so elite.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So they have a lot of talent on their offense.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: They're around.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, you saw what they did with the
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: quarterback last season and they still Yeah.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I think Darl was terrible and of course he fell
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: off completely once he finally got pressured. He looked awful
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: against Detroit.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Him in the playoffs was against Rams.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Rams. Well I won money on that game,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: so I wasn't sad.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I all right, go back to the division.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a yeah NFC north Man.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: So all right, So Packers they got is it love
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: still Jordan Love?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah? And Packers they don't have a lot of you know,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: like hyped players really, but they have like a decent
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: amount of talent there that just doesn't get any hype.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I think they still have like Christian wattson there, they
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: have like a couple of decent wide receivers there.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I would go Lions, Packers, Vikings, Bears.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I am similar to you, I think I'm I
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: mean Lions, yeah, plus one fifty five though, Packers plus
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: two fifty, Vikings plus three twenty Bears plus four seventy five.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: That is a cluster.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Man. It concerns me when all of every time I
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: do this, I nail the odds and you know, like
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: like Lions, Packers, Vikings are the odds.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: With the Lions, though, I mean, I mean losing losing
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: the it's gonna it's gonna be really interesting to see.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go Green Bay
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna go Green Bay Detroit, Minnesota Bears.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: That's how I'm gonna look over this. I'm gonna go
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Green Bay wins the division.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: You got. You got more faith in Jordan Love than
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I would have expected.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: He looked I mean, he looked really good when he
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: was healthy. So last year he was not healthy and
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: they still made the playoffs and they almost won, well
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: not almost one, but they played respectably, I guess against Philadelphia.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, they did.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: And I think Green Bay I think they're gonna be
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: overlooked a little bit right now. And again, they don't
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: really have a lot of that like star power. They're
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: other than love. But Green Bay, I mean yeah, I
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: mean I think they're pretty good. They're always there and
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I mean good coach and they're still.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if any of the top
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: three win. I would be shocked if the Bears won
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: that division though, me too.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I have no faith at kill Billiams. Obviously,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be good, but they do
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: the USC their defense could be all right, Yeah, I
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: mean USC by the way. Yeah. Also Sam Darnold, I'm
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: not looking at these USC quarterbacks.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: They turn out.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: NFC selth just a horrendous division, Manu Lanta, Carolina, New
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Orleans and Tampa Bay.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Who the fuck is New Orleans quarterback?
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Now? Tyler Shaw? I believe who was a twenty six
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: year old rookie that they drafted out of.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Fluor that old dude. Yeah that's wild, Yeah.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you. Look at the Saints, they might be
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: the worst team in the league. Do they have him?
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler, who's that dude that looks like a half black,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: half albino with red hair.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that dude's horrifying.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: And Jake Hayner, who I don't know what there is
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: to even say about Hanner.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I feel like we could do a half an hour
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: bit just just riffing off of Spencer Ratler's face. That
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: dude is That dude's like a ginger nightmare. Yeah, he's
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: like me, He's like a ginger that instead of not
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: having a soul, he steals yours.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: No waiste mixing. Although New Orleans still has Alvin Kamar
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: and Chris Olav and Rashi and Brandon Cooks. I mean
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: those are decent players.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: On their offense, but no, no, you're right, but Tyler whatever?
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah Schoff Yeah, I don't know, dude, I don't know.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: And then they they did change their head coach as
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: well in New Orleans with Kellen Moore is now their
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: head coach, and I think he must have been their
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: quarterback coach prior to that. He was a quarterback in
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: college at Boise State and then basically couldn't perform at
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: the NFL level got into coaching, and he's now their
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: head coach.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Dude, I don't know anything about these teams, so I'm
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: just gonna leave this one to you.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: But he has a players coach at least Tampa. I
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: mean they still Baker Mayfield there. I mean I think Tampa.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Did they still have Todd Bowles? I was thinking, did
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: they get rid of Tod Bowles? I don't think they did.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I mean they've been the Falcons. Do the Falcons Falcons
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: still have Michael Pennox junior or who they do?
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I like Michael Michael p Pick Yeah, yeah, I like
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Michael Pennix. Man. He got a little bit of playing
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: time under his belt last year, but not enough that
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: teams aren't gonna be like surprised by him that. I
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: think he actually looked fairly good. I actually liked Penix.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: He had flashes for sure.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the Falcons, I mean, this division is somewhat
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: wide open except for New Orleans. I would say Atlanta
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: they sil Verheem Morris there. It's his second year that
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I actually think he's not that bad of a coach either.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: New Orleans all, I mean, excuse me, Atlanta almost made
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, and then Carolina, I mean they
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: got they're still doing the Bryce Young experiment there, and
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: he actually after they benched him because he was so bad,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: they brought him back and he actually was good for
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: the second half of the year, and they.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Actually I remember, yeah, I remember against some good teams
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: they got. He impressed me. I thought I thought his
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: career was over, so I was really happy to I
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: love it anytime a guy who looks like he's like
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: almost out of a league and then he bounces back
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: and gets some w's, I'm like, that's fucking awesome. But
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I would still expect Saints Panthers battling it out for
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: the bottom of the Falcons battling it out for the top.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: That's my guess.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Panthers still have a bad defense. They have a lot
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: of young offensive talent, though, Bryce Young, Cuba hoo Bard,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: you know they're running back, is still there. He's really good.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: That is I thought that was how you pronounced it.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I call him chubble Hubbard. I don't know if it's
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: chubba Hoobard. That'sarious.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And then they have Adam Feelin's, you know, veteran
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: wide receiver. They still have leg It who's really good
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Kelan was great on the Vikings forever.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they have some good wide receivers actually, man, Jalen
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Cocher actually looked good last year. I guess they drafted
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: this guy. I don't even know how you pronounced McMillan's
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: first name. I don't know.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tedor roa titty titty row of that guy. Motor boat, that's.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: What I'm gonna call him. What do you take? Who
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: are you taking?
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Falcons to win this division? Man,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I think uh, Tampa Bay, I think they take a
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: step back. Man, I'm still not really huge a huge
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield fan. I know they still have him there.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Other defense still I don't think is really that great.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I like Atlanta, man, and Atlanta is They're pretty much
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: right there like every year. And I think I'm sold
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: on pen X and they have a lot of talent
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: actually around pen X. I think they still have Bjon
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Robinson it running back there and they still have Drake London,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: so they have.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: I agree with you, the best offense in this division,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: I think. I think Falcons probably do take it, but
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think that the Bucks are, Like, I would
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: not be shocked if the Bucks took that division.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Oh mean either, I think it's gonna be either Atlanta
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: or Tampa Bay in my opinion, Yeah, and New Orleans
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I think might be the absolute worst team in all
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: of the NFL, to be honest, it's them in the
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: in the Browns, I think fighting for dead last in
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: all of the NFL. This division. Tampa's only minus won
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: ten Atlanta plus two fifty Carolina plus three eighty Saints
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: plus fourteen hundred, which I think.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I think those odds are I think those odds are well,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Bucks are heavy favorites, it seems like,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: but whatever, it's close enough.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I just won ten versus the rest
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: of the field is like basically like.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, But I mean for the for the
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: division though, that's like, yeah, they're basically it's even odds
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: them or some other team.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, yep. Yeah, So you're going Tampa. I'm going
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Atlanta in that division.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: No no, no, I said, I said, Atlanta said Atlanta.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Oh God, we're the same. Clinton.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it's just because I do I agree with
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: your assessment. I like the Falcons, but I also said
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: that I think like Tampa's got a real shot at
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: the division. So but I think it's just those two
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: and the other two teams are d o A personally.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, fair enough, but I forgot to mention, wait,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: where the fuck did DeVante Devanta Adams though we're about
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: to talk about him, he's on the Rams, So I
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: was like, wait, I didn't talk about him yet. NFC West,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: we got Arizona Rams, your cross city rival Rams there,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I guess the forty nine ers and the Seahawks. Oh
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: and forty nine ers. I mean they lost some of
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: their guys. They lost Deebo Samuel to the Redskins, as
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: I said, and they did lose green Law, but Greenlaw
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: was like injured the whole time, like the last couple
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: of seasons anyway, So I don't even know. Man, they
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: lost him to Denver. Seattle kind of has the most
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: changes as they do. They have a new head coach too. No,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: they don't Mike Donald there. No, they have Mike McDonald's
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: second year Mike McDonald. He was the defensive coordinator with
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Baltiver two years ago, so he's a defensive mind.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Dean Carroll took a season off.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, Yeah, I think yah, yeah, he's out. Yeah, yeah,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: he was out in the NFL. Yeah. And then Seattle
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: they made the biggest kind of personnel changes because they
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: have Sam Donald as they started quarterback now, and they
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: did add Cooper Cup at wide receiver or kind of
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: their big moves there. And then the Rams, like I said,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: added DeVante Adams basically to replace Cooper Cup. And Devanta
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Adams is a deep threat man, and Cooper Cup is not.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Cup is like a lad McConkie, right.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: And Seattle also lost TK Metcalf to Pittsburgh as we
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: already saw. So Seattle, I think Seattle sucks this year.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I think they're all awful.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Who's their quarterback?
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Donald?
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: They lost Geno Smith to the Raiders.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, And by the way, I was talking about
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: the wrong quarterback. Gino Smith's the guy that I think
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: is pretty good. But anyways, he's all right. Yeah, but yeah,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Seahawks are gonna get fucked. Cardinals. Cardinals, they still got
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: that little tiny black eye.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Kyler Murray, they still have him. Yeah, I think
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: they still have all those guys. They still have him.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: They have who's the running back that they got Connor?
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Is that right? From Why do I not remember these
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: guys' names though? No? Yeah, James Connor, Yeah, I'm right.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: And they have Marvin Harrison Junior, who was their big
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: draft pick last year. Who's Marvin Harrison's son obviously, who
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: was a really talented wide receiver. But man, the Arizona
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: they constantly they basically they always have Kyler Murray and
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: they always have these guys and they never do anything.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't I don't have high hopes for them.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: They always fall short. They're always like a hot like pick,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: like like all the like professional betters like man, I
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: think Arizona could surprise this year and they never they never.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Ram still have Stafford, I guess they do.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. He's getting old though.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: It seems like he has like a back issue right now,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: so I don't know if that's gonna hurt him at all.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Dude, this this division's tough to read. Who's the Niners quarterback?
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: I don't even know Rock Party Oh yuck. I mean
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: he had a good year, but I don't know.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: I well, the Niners last year, they only had like
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: six wins last year, but everybody was hurt for them.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey missed most of the season. I think Deebo
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: was hurt for part of the season. Greenlaw missed like
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: I think, almost most of the season as well. They
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: had a ton of angur.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: But didn't didn't didn't.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Williams was hurt too, I think.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Didn't Homeboy have a great year the year prior though Rock.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Party they lost the Super Bowl to the Chiefs the
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: year before that. Over time, Yeah, they had a good
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: year that year here.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh great here considering that they did it with
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Rock Purty.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they have Rock Party. They still have Christian
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey there, they still have I believe they sell Brandon
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I Yuk and they have Kittle is still there.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. My guess would be Niners, Rams, Cardinals, Seahawks.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: That is also what I'm gonna go with there. Yeah,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. And they do have Juwan Jenny's
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: and Ricky Piersaw by the way, decent wide receiver who
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: missed time because he got shot.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: If you remember that, awesome.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's pretty gangst really. Yeah.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: He's obviously a white player, right.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Pierceaw is white. Yeah, and you can guess what race
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: the shooter was to.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: All Right, what are the odds?
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Uh? Man, it's probably close between San Francisco and on
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: the Rams. Let me see, I haven't looked at these
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: odds for Rotts plus one fifty for the forty nine
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Ers plus one ninety five for the Rams, Cardinals plus
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: four fifty and Seahawks plus five hundred. I'm still going
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: in that exact order.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Done.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Also, you just did as well.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Yep, yep. I think that's that's how it plays.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think the forty nine ers, I
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: mean they still have same guys there. I mean, they
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: still have what the fuck's their coach's name again, he's
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: he's been really good. They're like one of the best
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: coaches in the league. Man, I can't remember why Kyle Shanny.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say Mike Shanahan, his father, Kyle Shanahan.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: They still have him there, I mean, they still have dude.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: I don't even like Brock Purty that much, and I'm
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: on record saying that basically when any of his guys
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: get injured, he sucks. But I'm still gonna go with
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers to win this division.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: This I think that football is a great example as
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: to why nepotism is actually not a bad thing. Yeah,
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: I'm serious. I'm serious because like, uh, Shanahan and Schottenheimer
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: like almost all the kids.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Uh pass that information down to your son.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Although yeah, dude, Shottenheimer's.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Son has not been a very good head coach. Don
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Marty Shotenheimer always.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Well you know mart already shot because my Marty ball
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: he was he played the same style of like run it,
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: play close games, blah blah blah. And and it was
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: crazy because we had fucking l T and Drew Brees
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: and then we had LT and Philip Rivers and it
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: was like it was like, dude, you gotta let it
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: fucking rip, like you've got elite talent we had, we
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: had Vincent Jackson and like such an unbelievable squad.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: And he was like, I was like ready to kill
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: myself that year that they beat the Patriots because I
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: was a Patriot hater. Well, the year with LT or
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: LT like dominated that game. It was the when the
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Patriots stomped on the Chargers logo and the Chargers they
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: lost the game because they fumbled the interception.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: You remember that, Yeah, that that dude, Uh, it was
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: actually Jackson.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's who it was.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Nope, it was Marlon, Marlon McCree.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: McCree. Yeah, that's right, McCree. I got them confused.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know him, I know him personally, but it's
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: a it's a business. Yeah, it's a bit. It's a
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: business deal. So I can't talk about it. But let
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: me just tell you I don't like that guy.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Wow, yeah from all yes, yeah, all right, yeah that game.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: I was so unhappy with that game, man. But if you.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: Were unhappy, imagine how I felt. It was like it
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: was like the end of my life.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well at least for me.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I was room for Peyton Manning that year and the
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Colts won the Super Bowl that year and knocked out
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: the Patriots.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: And it was the it was the year either before
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: that or right after that that we took out the
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Colts in the wild card or I remember it yet
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: divisional and it wasn't even it wasn't even LT because
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: LT was hurt and it was our backup running back
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: went ballistic and I think we took him out in
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: ot I could be mistaken. And Philip Rivers played on
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: the torn A c L and the Championship.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: And they still almost beat the Patriots on the road.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: And I remember that was the year after I graduated
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: college and I was back up on campus. I was
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: at like an off campus apartment because some of my
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: roommates are still going to school and whatever. So like,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I went up to watch the game with those guys,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: most of them were Patriot fans.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: People. People will never understand because of the Patriots run,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: how much how much glory got absorbed by the Chargers
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: in that decade, like the Chargers. If it were not
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: for the Patriots, the Chargers absolutely win one or more
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Super Bowls with Drew Brees lt or Rivers. Elt like
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: we had fucking Sean Merriman and like just I mean
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: the team was unbelievable for so many years.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Really really good. And this year that you're talking about
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: here was also the year that the Patriots went undefeated.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: That was the sixteen and oh year. Yeah, because I remember,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I was, I was up in my Yeah, I went
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: up to watch it, you know, with my friends there
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: that their apartment there, and I also watched the Super
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Bowl there with the Giants ull about the opposite. I
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: was so happy about that, and I want money on it.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: I think it was Michael Turner who fucked the Colts up.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: It might have been, but that Uh. When I went
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: up to watch the Chargers game against the Patriots, I
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: was wearing a powder blue Laedanian Tomlinson jersey and these
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: three guys you can take a guess what race they
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: were when I was walking the streets in was sir.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: They saw my jersey like, fuck, you fucked the Chargers,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: and they tried to run me off the street with
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: their car. They like drove up onto the sidewalk and
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: tried to hit me with their car.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: And that's what you get. That's what you get for
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: going to Worcester.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I jumped over a brick wall. They probably would have
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: hit me with their car otherwise. It was insane, dude,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: It was so insane.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: And during that same era, I was delivering pieces to
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Ladanian Tomlinson. Oh seriously, multiple times.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: You know every Charger player.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if i'd say I know him,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: but he signed a football for me and he still
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: tipped me five bucks. Good guy.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: That's awesome, man. So part of your tip is a
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: sign lt football. I would take that.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: That's awesome, Yeah, I said, I literally said, uh, because
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: I saw I saw the order the order slip. I
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: was working at Pizza Huad at the time, briefly. I
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: usually worked at nice places. But I saw the delivery
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: slip and it said Tomlinson and I was like, oh shit.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: I immediately drove back to my apartment, grabbed a football
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: that I had and then when I when I dropped
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: it off, sure enough, he didn't even have like his
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: wife or help or whatever answered the door. It was him,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: And I was like, hey, man, instead of a tip,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: would it be too much to uk? You just signed
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: this ball? And he's like, oh, dude, for sure, and
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: then he still tipped me. I was like, wow, that's awesome.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: So he was a nice guy too, Yeah, Like he's
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: a really good guy. But I will say this, I
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: will say this every time I delivered to him, because
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: I delivered to him three or four times, maybe five
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: or six, and every time it reeked like pot. So
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: I think I think he was a massive stunner, all right.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, man, we get some some of the LT
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: lore there, all right.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Which is incredible because he still I think he had
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: like thirty one touchdowns in a season or something, and
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: he was just high as a kite.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, man, all right, who are who are your
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: wildcard picks gonna be here? Man? So you went with
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: what did you call? You went Eagles, you went Lions,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Falcons and forty nine ers, and yeah, who are your wildcards?
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: It seemed like you were probably going you said Washington
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: maybe and Rams. It seemed like you were talking about
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: but I don't know, maybe Packers. I don't know who
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: are you going with there?
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I would go, I would go Packers, Redskins. Scroll down?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: You want one of these NFC South teams? No, no, no,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: no no, I was just thinking about the NFC West.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: Scroll up.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: I mean the Rams, uh Stafford, I mean, his back's
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: gonna have to be good, but they still have Sean
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: McVay there. They still got a pretty good defense there
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: as well. After their defense was horrible the first half
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: of the year last year, they really turned it around.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: I feel like the Packers and the Vikings could both
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: get wildcards slots. Honestly, they could for sure.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we saw that happen. That happened last year,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: right Detroit won the division. I think both of those
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: teams got wildcards last year. So three NFC North teams
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: made the playoffs last year.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I'm I'm leaning in that direction, so I'll
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: just make that my pick. Who knows.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: So you're going, uh, Packers, Vikings, and Washington. So you're
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: leaving the Rams out?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just not, you know, they're just what?
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Dallas because
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: I had Green Bay winning the division. I'm gonna go
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: with Detroit being a wild card, and I'm gonna go Rams.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Vikings to not make the
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: playoffs with the rookie QB there. That's how I'm gonna
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: That's how I'm gonna do it, and go with Washington
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: to drop off enough that they failed to make the playoffs.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: And what I think is a pretty difficult NFC really,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: to be honest. All right. And then, uh, super Bowl?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: What do you think the Super Bowl matchup and winner
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: is gonna be?
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: I think no, I think it'll be the Titans versus
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: the Saints. I'm all in on the Saints. I put
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: my whole life savings on the Saints.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: So it's road shading. It's Andy he is reminding.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: You, dude. Yeah, Antonio Gates you're right, dude, my bed,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: my bed. Yeah, Gates was like like almost certainly the
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: second best tight end of all time, and no one
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: ever talks about him so much so that a charge
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: your fan like me forgot about him. Dude.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Nobody really talks about the Patriots when they had Ben
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Coates back in the Drew bled So days. He was
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: such a good tight end back when I was actually
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: a Patriots fan. Nobody talks about that.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: But then you got the fucking one two punch of
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: the murderer in that Gronkowski retard.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and I actually kind of like Gronk
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: just because I think he's hilarious at least.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Dude, Broncan Hernandez was the scariest tight end duel I've
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: ever seen in my life. And I didn't even know
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: he was a murderer at the time. Had I known that?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: My god, Yeah, that's crazy, dude. Yeah. And he's a
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: multiple murderer. Yeah, he murdered.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Uh, he was like like a legit serial killer.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Three. Yeah, he murdered three people, and well does account
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: as a serial killer because he it was two separate incidents.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: He murdered his wife's sisters, fiance or whatever, because the
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: guy knew too much information about his previous crime, so
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: you murdered that guy. And the other uh event was
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: a double homicide that took place in a bar. I
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: know the exact bar. I saw Dave Smith, Robbie the
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Fire and Lewis Jay Gomes show at that bar where
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: that incident started. Where yeah, uh, the which was a
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: club slash bar and whatever it was over spilled drink
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: or something. And then down the street from there Hernandez
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: it was a drive by double shooting. So that was
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: the double homicide. And then he also tried to kill
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: one of his friends who was like, yeah, like one
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: of his homies who knew too much information tried to
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: kill that guy.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: Living we know, but we know about that. So that's
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: three murders we know about, one attempted murder that we
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: know about. How many how many did we not know about?
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: So either he's a sillery killer or he's just the
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: biggest piece of shit gang banger ever, so whatever.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Hernanda is not on the Epstein list because he was gay,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: so he did he did not like little girls.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: But I do think he killed himself, so that's the
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: difference between him and Epstein.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: He probably killed himself. Yeah, yeah, I don't think there's
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: that much yeah around that particular suicide. He was fucking crazy.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Dude is watching this.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: I love it, man, We get all these all these
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: guys in the chat. Yeah, so not besides Tennessee versus
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: New Orleans, who were you actually picking?
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Oh oh, you're not taking me seriously on those picks.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: No, no, we have I have the odds up here too,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: But it looks like it's a crapshoot man. I mean
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: it's the NFL. You don't have any like outright favorite
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: here by any means at all. You have a lot
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: of teams with like decent odds there that are in there.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: So it looks like Bill's Bill's Eagles are the favorites.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but sight Bills have the same odds as the
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Ravens actually to win the AFC or sorry, to win
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: the championship, but probably the same to win the AFC too,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: let me see, yeah, same to win the AFC as well.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, God, dude, I don't know what's your pick.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm gonna go. I mean, it seems like
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: there's always one like crazy team that makes it that
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: you're like, what the fuck just happened, Like, how did
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: that team get In thinking about this, I don't think
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be the Eagles again, man. I mean that
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: although a lot of times you see that Super Bowl
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: champion get there again. That's been happening recently. But I
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go against that. I don't think it's
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be the Eagles, man. I'm gonna go for AFC.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out with Baltimore. I mean, they've been
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: like a nasty team for so long. Man. I think
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: losing their defensive coordinator before last year was a problem.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: You know, he's the head coach of Seattle now. But
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: I think after having one season under their belt and
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: that's it, I think they're gonna be really good again.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: I think Baltimore. I'll shout out to garbage Man because
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: he likes Derrick Henry uh so, Baltimore still has him.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: So I'll go with the Ravens. The Ravens are really good.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: They're good on both sides of the ball.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Man. So those of those top five, which is you know,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: it's funny the Chargers. The Broncos were favored over the
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Chargers in the division, but they have the same odds
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: for the Super Bowl. That's fascinating.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Wait, what was that The.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: Broncos had slightly better odds for the AFC West than
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: the Chargers did, but they have the exact same odds
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: for the Super Bowl, which is yeah interesting.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah the odsmakers. Yeah, think that when the Broncos get
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: to the playoffs, because of the inexperience, maybe they won't be.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: As okay that that that's thank you for the rationale
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: that actually.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Something like that. Well, I don't know. I mean, well,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: it's a market, so it has to do.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: With like, well, yeah, I think I think just I
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: think people are actually putting money on the Chargers because
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: of Herbert and they don't have as much faith in
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: the second your quarterback.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think public wise, I think
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: the public is probably taking shots on like Denver. I
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: think they feel like Bonex.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I would have picked. I would
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: have picked Lions Ravens, but I'm really nervous about the
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Lions losing their OC and DC and having a setback. Also,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: I think off is like, yeah, I don't know, I
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: think he's like kind of a fucking retard.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I always thought that he was,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: but I kind of like him. Now. I haven't watched
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: the quarterback that he's in there.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: But he's a he's a hell of a quarterback. But
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: I just like the quarterback. It's so important that you're like,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: really really bright, and that's just I just can't imagine
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: the guy is dumb in some money in the super Bowl.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: I know that's kind of retarded, but push back on
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: that a little bit.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: At least Detroit, their top two defensive players missed a
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: huge chunk of the season.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: That's a great that's a great point, including.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: The playoffs or I don't know if did Angeloon come
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: back at all because Hutchinson was out he broke his leg, But.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, if if Hutchinson comes back and he is
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: as elite as he was prior to the injury, then
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: I still think that the Lions are the favorite in
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: the NFC.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Goff won with l A when he never won a
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl though, right, that was the whole thing, like Stafford,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: you know, one out on that tray, right because Stafford, Right,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Stafford won the Super Bowl with l A. Golf did
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: not win. Goff lost to the Patriots when they made.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: The Super Bowl, but he got them.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: He got them to the Super Bowl but didn't win it,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: and then they got Matthew Stafford, and Stafford won the
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl with the Rams against the Bengals.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: Yep, you stand corrected, garbage main, Yes, I look so. Yeah,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: I like I think it's Eagles are the Lions. I
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: feel pretty confident. I'd be shocked if the Commanders were
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: the Niners or any really, any of those other teams
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: have a shot at it. I think that the Ravens.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: I like the Ravens more than I like the Bills.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think that the Chiefs are gonna sniff it, dude,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: I really think that they I think that they fall
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: off this season. That's just my opinion. I agree as well. Yeah,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: I could be totally wrong, but I don't think that
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: the I think that the Bengals should not be ranked
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: higher than the Chargers. I think that's fucking crazy, socks crazy.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Actually, I agree with you as well. I'm not a
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: fan of the Bengals just because I don't think their
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: defense is good enough. I think the Chiefs will be
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs and they will be a really difficult out.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: But they play a lot of close games, man, so
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs will go down.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I'm not. I'm not saying that they
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: don't make the playoffs, but I just I'd be shocked
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: if they if they go to the super Bowl again,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: that'd be fucking crazy to me. So yeah, bye, I'm
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: gonna go Chargers.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: All right, So you're going to Chargers. Wait what I
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: think you said? Wait, I think you said Chargers.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Chargers versus Lions. That's my that's my final land sea.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: That's on right now. That would be crazy. Do the
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game first preseason because.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: You know why it's the Hall of Fame game because
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: both of those teams are going to the Hall of Fame. Look,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: I think I think it's like Ravens Lions would be
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: my bet, but my heart says Chargers Lions.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: So oh man, I'm gonna go. I'm going Ravens and
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something really uh dumb, probably really Packers.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: You can see Packers. I know you're gonna say Packers.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's dude, it's d I man. We're gonna
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: get black versus black, black on black crime in the
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm going I'm going with the dark skinned
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: black guy to beat the ship out of Jordan Love's
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: white or light light skinned ass.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, man, uh yeah, hell yeah Clinton, we did see
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: what happens. We did We did it.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for tuning into
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: a podcast about betting on football. For a one of
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: the at least one of the people here didn't know
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: a fucking thing. I didn't like half the teams. I
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: didn't even know who the starting quarterback was. That's how
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: bad my research was. But yeah, thanks for having me on. Then.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for coming on, man. I always love doing it.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: If you want to come back on, you know, before
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: the playoffs or something, to fill out a playoff bracket or.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: Something, Let's let's do it once the MLB playoffs start.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, we could do the MLB one too, Yeah, MLB
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: is yeah, that's a tough call. Usually yeah, yeah, we
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: can do that too.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: Baseball. Baseball is the hardest sport to bet on. Baseball
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: is so fucking hard because if especially the playoffs and MLB,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: because it's just like who's hot. If you get hot,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: you could have a team that just barely sneaks in
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: and then they end up in winning the World Series.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, fucking wasn't it. Like the Diamondbacks recently, and
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: then like the Ranger. The Rangers sad one.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: Every every year it's a team that you don't expect,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: it feels.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Except last year. Last year was the expected Dodgers and Yankees.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: That was what everybody expected. But dude, I hope, I
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: hope it's neither of those teams this year. Both of
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: those teams. You know who it needs to be Padres,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: Red Sox. Baby, how about that?
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: Let's go And if that's the case, you know, I
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: won't be too.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Upset if the Red Sox lose. I don't think the
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Red Sox are gonna get there though, I don't think.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't think the Padres are gonna get
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: there either. But yeah, well but there. Their bullpen is
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: really really excellent, though, dude.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: And and the way they're swinging right now. If they
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying though, if they get hot, it
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: just requires a month of hotness and it's like, all right,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: now you're in the fucking You're in the big show.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: That's right, that's true. Yeah, just gotta get hot at
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: the right time. Yeah, Baseball, Yeah, we'll talk about it again.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: The Padres have the talent that if they get hot,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: they are a fucking problem. If the way Machado, Tatis
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: and Bogart's is swinging right now, if you could just
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: if you could just get Cronenworth to bat like because
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: he was batting three hundred a couple of seasons ago.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: If you get him to fucking hit, and then and
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: then the uh our center fielder, who's oh Jackson Merrill,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: who's fucking yea, who was unbelievably elite in his rookie year.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: If you can him to hit like that, then you've
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: got five serious bats, You've got the best bullpen, and
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: then you're starting pitching is your weak spot, and it's
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: like and we're getting healthy on starting pitching. I don't know.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, don't cut us out, ladies and gentlemen.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: The Padres are sucking a serious threat.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually don't understand how their offense is struggling
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: as much as it is with the talent that they
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: have there.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Dude, the talent is amazing.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: They just they're starting pitching.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: They just they didn't hit. They didn't hit for the
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: first half of the year. Like their hitting was like
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: really not that good, and.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: They just got you Dervish back. They're going to need
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: him to actually like return to some sort of forma.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's not true. He was a good
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: last night, dude. He was spanning it.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: He really.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: He threw. Yeah, every pitch he threw, he threw fifteen
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: percent of the time, so it was like he had
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: like seven different pitches. They couldn't hit him at all.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: He gave. Yeah, he did it.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: He has a ton of different pitches.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: He did a two hitter. Uh, Padres won like eight
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: to nothing. So yeah, the Padres are a fucking serious threat. Dude.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he was bad his first few games back.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: But I guess he's back on now.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: I mean that's yeah, dude, the way he the way
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: he pitched the last game. And then if we get
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: that other uh, that homegrown kid that had the no
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: hitter last year, Musgrove, if he comes back, I'm telling you.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: Where's he at? Yeah? I forgot about him.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: He's out right now.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: So he comes back a season, I don't think.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. But he's been in the in
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: the dugout lately, so that means he's probably getting close.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: So if you're saying, Yeah, if and Merril hasn't been hitting,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: and Crodenworth hasn't been.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Hitting, you, you guys need to get Michael King back.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: Where's that guy? Uh? Is he hurt?
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: I think he's back. I don't. I could be wrong, though.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: I mean I I do baseball every day and he
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: has not started for a long time.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, well then then he's out. But this is what
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, we got a lot of our fucking
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: best players out and we're still three games back. We're
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: three games back to the doors.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Clinton, you implicated yourself in Pizzagates Andnight and Ladani
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: and Thomlinson along with you, And that was Thomas cheese
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: pizza from you, Tom Pizza.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: This is a true story. I was such a huge
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: fan of La Danian Thomlinson. I didn't tell a soul
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: that he was a pothead, because that was still when
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: the NFL was really serious. But if you guys remember
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: Ricky Williams got basically ousted from the league because he
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: was a stunner.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: So yeah, until it's crazy rules.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: It's only it's only ten years after his retirement that
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: I'm willing to tell you, guys, the truth that Ladanian
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: toll him say, massive pothead.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna care at this point, man, people will like
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: him more for that at this point probably.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: I was, Yeah, me too. But I'm not saying that
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: people would like him less because he was a stunner.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: I'm saying his career would have been jeopardized. So I
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: kept I kept that. I would have kept that secret
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: to the grave had it been necessary. But I can
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: say it because he's.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Thomason opens the door. You know, it's just this way
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: of a pot smoke. He holds a gun up to
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: you like you're not telling anybody.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Well. The funny thing is he was like small guy,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: like he was surer than me. He wouldn't like he
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: wasn't even like like more broad than I am. It
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: was just weird that he's such an elite running back.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Travis say Musgrove is out for the season. I knew
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: he had Tommy John. I don't know if he was
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: coming back. I thought he was coming back. You don't
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: have to call me a dummy. Jesus don't know, man,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: but yeah, that would be that. That was a big
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: blow when he did get hurt though. I know that,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: but I don't remember when in this it was last
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: year or some point. I don't remember when exactly. So
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: I thought you might be right.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: He's been out. He's been out forever. That's why I
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: thought he was coming back. But if Trav says that
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: he's not wellhole, yeah, I don't think that makes me
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: feel bad about my Musgrove.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think that's the Travis that we know.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: I think that's another Trave.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's okay. But Clinton Musgrove was the first.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: I think he was the first picture in Padre history
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: to throw no hitter. So he is a legend. Legend
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: for that, that is Yeah, that is legendary. Man.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: I'm always gonna remember Clint's take on the w NBA game.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gonna be a bunch of ugly lesbians, and
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: I think that the like the crew of Massive Dikes
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: is probably gonna take it. Though.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: Did you see I think it was two nights ago,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: the green dildo that got thrown onto the court at
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: the w NBA game. I did. It was in Atlanta.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they actually took it. They took it straight out
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: of my ass and threw it into the center court.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: It was crazy.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can't believe you're at the Atlanta Dream game.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Man, can you imagine? Can you imagine going to a
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: w NBA game? Like, what a piece of shit you
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: gotta be?
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: I consider going to the Well, Kayln Clark was going
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: to be playing at td.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: Gard Okay, okay, okay, okay. If you want to see
• 1:18:16
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• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to see Sophy Cunningham in person.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: But you're a pervert.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: Caylin Clark was hurt though. I decided not to go
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: to that game, and dude, I went. I went into Boston. Well,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: I went into Boston that same night to see Weird Out,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: and there were Indiana Fever jerseys all over the place
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: in Boston, even though they were playing against Connecticut. It
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: was the closest w NBA team to uson. Everybody was like, nope,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: fuck that, We're all in on Caylen Clark. Dude, I
• 1:18:41
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• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: Look, she's she's a very talented gal. But I will
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: say this, she couldn't she couldn't sniff a D one
• 1:18:51
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• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: w NBA is just such a fucking crock of shit.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: I can't believe anybody talks about it, anybody cares about it.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: The fact that they've like just been shoving it down
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: my fucking feed on X makes me so mad. I
• 1:19:05
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• 1:19:10
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• 1:19:13
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• 1:19:17
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• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: you have a problem until just just now. You have
• 1:19:22
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• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: But you can win. I never watch it, but you
• 1:19:24
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• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: Can win on it. You could win. I'm betting on anything.
• 1:19:29
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• 1:19:31
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• 1:19:34
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• 1:19:36
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• 1:19:38
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• 1:19:50
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• 1:19:52
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• 1:19:54
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• 1:19:59
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• 1:20:01
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• 1:20:03
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• 1:20:07
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• 1:20:10
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• 1:20:21
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• 1:20:26
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• 1:20:29
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• 1:20:46
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  Speaker 2: which is crazy.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Is betting on dartsy. I'm not that much of a savage,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: but I know there are professionals that do it, and
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: they focus on darts and they make money on darts,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: and it sounds like the names are made up the
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: dart players, and like.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I would rather watch professional darts than the WNBA.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: Dude, there's there's this one dart one of the like
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: top dart players or whatever, like one of the top darters.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: I guess, I guess he's not like the best, but
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: he's just like kind of older, fatter dude. And he
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: did this crazy like entrance one night that went like
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: viral because he walked down he just like randomly grabs
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: some dude and like kissed him on the mouth and
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: then then he went up and start throwing darts.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: See, this is why darts is better than the NFL,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: because you can't kiss people in the NFL.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: That's not true, you know what, throw it out of
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: the league at all.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know what's gayer than kissing the dude.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: Not being able to kiss a dude. That's pretty fucking gay.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: By the way, I would rather watch not just darts.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: I'd rather watch bowling than the WNBA. I'd rather watch
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: snuff films than the WNBA. I'd rather literally, I'd rather
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: literally have my eyes torn out of my head than
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: watch the WNBA. I can't believe anybody who watches the WNBA.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: It's kid's gotta go away, man, It's just being propped
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: up by.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: It's literally interesting. It's literally kept alive by the NBA.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: They they funnel money from the NBA into the WNBA.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: It has lost money to the tune of hundreds of
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: millions of dollars for twenty five years straight. It's so
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: crazy it still exists.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Trav. Yeah, Stephen Bunting, that's right. Of course,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: Trav knows the darts players. Man. Yeah, that's right. Stephen
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: Bunting is his name.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, travs autism is unsurpassed. He's like, he's like most
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: grows out for a fucking season. John, all right, dude,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: I gotta go.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: All right, man, thanks thanks for coming on. Man. Everybody
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: check out Clint on Liberty Lockdown, Liberty lock Pod on Twitter.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: All right, thanks franging out, everybody.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: Peace out, mister Buddy Bice, you too, man,