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Back to Basics · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back corner podcast. I'm Curtis Wilson.
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  I'm Brian siglo buddy. Wednesday night.
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  How we feeling? Back-to-back Wednesday night
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  feed when I get back in the offseason.
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  Yeah, Yeah, March Madness on the tube.
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  Dwight Vic somewhere in Northern Virginia, trying to get to his
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  house to get home us, do, I will be here folks.
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  He messaged just said, he's running a little bit behind, so
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  he'll join us in just a few minutes here, but Brian what a
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  crazy few days. Basically starting last week at
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  this time. Basically through today with
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  tournament, with will talk about with the white, with NFL free
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  agency and just with brackets, in general.
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  I mean, have you filled yours out yet?
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  Yeah, I feel mine out too gay. I finally looked at it enough, I
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  was like, let's go ahead and put this bad boy together.
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  See what we had. I don't feel confident, but
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  we'll see how it goes, man. You know, you know, this thing,
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  usually runs. I do, I tell you, I was going
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  through the stuff and I made my pics, and I don't have any,
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  like, crazy, crazy upsets, or anything like that in a year of
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  crazy. Upsets Like, you know, go
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  through it. Um, you know, I thought about
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  taking the alma mater, Longwood over Tennessee, but I've watched
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  a lot of that SEC Championship in the SEC games in general, in,
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  Tennessee's on a roll, and Rick Barnes is a damn good coach and
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  he makes run them. He makes runs in March.
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  Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see what, what
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  long was able to do against them.
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  I'm more focused on looking at the tech side of the bracket
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  after that magical run through the ACC and seeing how many of
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  those teams in the East they can they can knock out.
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  I feel like it's a pretty good matchup in round one against
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  Texas. Yep.
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  After that you got it got Purdue which I think is going to be.
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  That's a potential matchup could be.
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  It could be a tough one. I think she's in some areas we
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  match up well with With them and in some areas not so much.
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  Right? Yeah, you know, obviously
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  they've got size with the big seven foot plus guy, but as we
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  saw last weekend though, especially on offense, when
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  they're running High, post will keys. even some of the most
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  athletic big men in the country like Williams and the cot could
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  not guard that it couldn't get back on the role.
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  They couldn't get out on the three-point Shooters.
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  The Purdue. Let's get through Texas first.
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  Let's go out there and keep the role keep shooting the ball.
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  Well, playing good deed, they don't have a great offense so
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  you know it's good things but it's just going to be a it's a
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  fun tournament. I mean we lost it in 2020.
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  Last year was kind of A minor version in E, Minor version of
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  the tournament because you didn't have full capacity and
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  what happened to BCU essentially losing, which is still in
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  protocols this year. But we haven't seen that
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  flare-up in quite a while in any tournament.
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  Probably, since early January, it definitely feels like like
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  the protocols is there. But The stringency is not what
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  it is. All righty, One Last Thing
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  Before we bring to White on Hokies and free agency.
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  Timmy settle going up the Buffalo where I mean Tim settle
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  in his years at with the Washington football, team
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  commanders. Whatever you want to call them,
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  has played a vital secondary role, the bills getting Von
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  Miller, so you got one Timmy and Oliver on the inside Miller on
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  the outside, they're going for. They thought they were getting
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  mckissick as well. He did, he came back, bring back
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  to DC. That is what it is.
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  Brandon face on joins your Colts.
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  That's always nice to get a hokie honestly.
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  We ended up getting. We got face on heads up and then
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  we traded Yassin for Yannick. So I feel like we got
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  Essentially the net of two better players and only really
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  had to trade one player again. And so I think I think we got
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  the better quarterback of that exchange and then we also got an
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  extra defensive end. So So they get good trades.
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  We're still sitting well y'all on us.
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  They're still sitting here in the quarterback Market, crimes,
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  Colts, the nine. We have a quarterback.
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  We just have an extra one sitting there but obviously this
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  John Watson and all what he does is going to be the Fallout of
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  that. So for me and Brian sanity over
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  the next two days, especially while we're locked on the March
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  Madness, watching our alma mater long watching our Hokies.
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  Can we get the trade done? Just so it's like bunnies over I
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  hope so. I hope we do something I mean
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  we're talking about maybe bringing in we look at so many
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  different angles, Marcus Marcus. The guy y'all ran out of the
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  division. Yeah.
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  Could that Baker Baker Mayfield? I mean, it's I've if it's a
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  quarterback that could potentially move, I've heard his
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  name attached to the Colts in some way, shape or form that
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  Ryan for Taylor vehicles and you be a cold saying if Matt Ryan
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  joins Man, that's that's time. I'll be a Colts fan but I'm not
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  I'm not, you know, we're not celebrating Matt.
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  Ryan victories here. All right, well, Brian just got
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  informed of white has going to. So without further Ado, poke
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  Legend offensive lineman number 57, we bring on the white Vic.
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  What's up? What's up Dwight that Northern
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  Virginia traffic get you know man.
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  Oh I had a I had a coach's meeting man and it ran long and
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  I looked at my watch I'm like it's not 15.
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  I got to go, I got to park hasn't got the podcast and I ran
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  a few stop signs and Northern Virginia traffic.
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  I deal with but I was good, I was good, I was good.
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  Now, you know, my team, we had some things changes going on so
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  I had to make sure I got situated with the coaches and
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  going over stuff man. You know because the high school
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  season just ended. So I had to get the know just
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  stuff with personnel and are you stuff, but it's all good.
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  Now I was rushing home. I'm looking for the jump on what
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  you guys. I check you guys out frequently
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  so I'm I'm excited about being on right now, man.
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  We love having you on tonight. I was born at University.
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  I was born my mom and dad. So when I was young,
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  Me, it was euphoric, man. It actually means more.
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  Now that is not of the Dust settled that Championship
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  because I think I'd end of the day.
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  It's just special man. Like, with Mike young is
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  building and seeing my God, he's custis who I basically have
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  grown up together when we had Virginia Tech as a special
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  assistant coach and Bruce. My God Bruce Cohen who's been at
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  Texas 1988. They've seen the ups and downs
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  and Bruce was, there were buzzed.
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  So the seals players man, be The Blue, Bloods, and Virginia Tech
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  man. You know, I always take a person
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  when people talk about where football squad and it had a man,
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  we got wrestling. We've had some great moments
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  with softball. We had track and field men's and
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  women's continue to dominate. The golf team is great.
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  I'm not going to lie and tell you.
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  I watch golf or baseball but you know, if it's got the orange,
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  maroon is Hokies. I'm down for it.
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  So it was great night man. I my wife joked about how tech
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  fans were going to really make everybody upset because we are
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  so into our Sports Hokie Nation. When we get something we go, we
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  get to the point of where obnoxious.
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  So we can be annoying, like my timeline was just, you know,
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  people troll it. But you know what, I think
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  that's what makes us special, how hard we ride for our
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  program? How hard we ride for our sports
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  but that was just a great night. I feel like the entire country
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  was watching that game because I don't really think it was a
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  great NBA game on and it is the ACC tournament Saturday night
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  Primetime and was a great night for Virginia Tech Sports,
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  especially the basketball program.
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  And A program. That's now been 25 ACC.
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  I mean, NCAA tournaments and you know, I won't go as far to say
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  we're a basketball school, I think when I hear that anyway,
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  oh, that's a basketball school. That's the football school.
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  I get it, we love our football. But I mean, I love the fact that
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  Tech won that Championship, especially when Brian and
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  Curtis. I know, you guys know this man.
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  But, like, when we went into the ACC, there were a lot of teams
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  that did not want us in that. For its do you know, you can't
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  bear Wanna Be the top to the did not want us along with them in
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  Miami and Miami was playing some shit behind the scene to get me
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  seeing there instead of us. Yeah.
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  Oh yeah. You know yeah.
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  Miami. Never like this because we came
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  in and we spoiled their party to when the Big East began, you
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  know what supposed to be the Miami Hurricanes show and we
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  came in and we took took that over man and we became their
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  rival. I mean people now from Miami and
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  they They they see I'm a tech guy and they're like, oh my God,
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  we hate y'all. I said good, they're good.
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  He said, you know, there's so many things that feel we are
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  more of a rival to them than Florida State because of the
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  conference years, in the Big East, those years, those
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  battles, if you ever watch ESPN classic, or you go back and do
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  your due diligence with your history of the program.
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  Second Miami, especially in football.
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  It was vicious. It was, it was real.
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  So I'm glad we got an ACC always thought when I got the tech I'm
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  out. I love playing the Big East but
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  I thought it made more 6. Make made more sense as far as
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  demographics and proximity with the school so that move in 2004
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  has been great, you know, because I was there when the
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  football program was in the Big East, the basketball program was
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  in the Metro DC, you and Louisville.
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  And in the the girls team wasn't another conference.
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  It was crazy man. We were all over the place and
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  for a while, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah people don't care speaking
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  of girls there in the tournament to with Jeff crazy good.
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  So yes 11 teams that have in each Kenny doing a heck of up
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  there and it's just you already said it's like earlier.
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  Just during the basketball tournament, you see the tweets
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  go out National Championship won in the what in women's track and
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  field to up the pole vault V8 under And, and now you already
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  mentioned it. We got some stuff on it later.
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  I mean, what eight wrestlers going to Nationals?
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  Yep, opt-in program. Yeah, it's this thing where
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  we're going to talk a lot about football, but it's what's
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  happened. In the last five, six years is,
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  every other sport has gotten cultivated right called winning
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  program, going to championships and now it's time to get the
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  football program, right? We are years.
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  We saw the upgrades to facilities and now we're seeing
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  Brian. This is bronze.
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  This is Brian saying, I'm not, but it's true.
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  We used to be a mom and pop organization company after
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  what's happened. This last year, we have big
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  business now in football. He's right.
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  He's right, he's right. And I was never one of those,
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  the players former players in denial.
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  I mean, because when I was there, we had a equipment
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  manager. He's a And dairy equipment as we
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  had a guy named Lester Carlin and everybody back in the 90s,
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  what is saying? Turf shoes.
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  So if you are running about you or the same is Lyman shoes, so
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  we call them Lester specials. So, like, you understand
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  something, brought like, I was there during the Dark Ages when
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  we were winning off, like, real grit.
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  Like we, I was there when the merriment Center was built my
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  last couple of years, and I was there when we got sponsored by
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  Nike. We will finally be able to get
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  on the beach video games featured on EA Sports.
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  But it was a mountain to climb and we were very fortunate when
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  the Beamer ball website was created and when all that stuff
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  happened, it was one of those situations where you could see
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  the momentum coming. They got Kevin Jones.
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  Obviously you all know my cousin is, they got Mike and it kind of
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  elevated the program but they were winning still with they
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  were willing with, you know, like rocks.
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  They were winning. They will, it was a formula.
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  But it was blue collar to the max.
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  It was, you know, it's kind of making lemon lemonade out of.
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  Instead of just going to get the pre-made pack and we would just
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  doing everything from the mud from the ground up, which made
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  us tough mentally and physically, but you can only
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  survive on that kind of toughness by getting no stars in
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  one stars and two stars before so long.
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  And it got to the point where we came in and hit the ground
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  running in the ACC and it was magical and we came in and took
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  over that conference in football.
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  But I think when Clemson and Florida State and Miami elevated
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  their finances and their stuff it got Real where it was like
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  okay we didn't evolve we kind of got still like their beam aboard
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  website was great for a long time but then it was like, okay,
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  the internet got even bigger and we have that many coaches on.
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  We didn't have that many coaches on Twitter and I remember my
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  gosh out to my God, but Foster, he talked to me on my podcast
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  and he talked to me, even off the Record, we would talk just
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  checking in with each other. He admitted, he messed this an
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  interview today, vitiello. Maybe it was Angie bitter that
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  the program, the recruiting pictures had gotten stale And
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  you can tell because during 2014 and 2013 we were in the running
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  for some amazing players. I think that 2014 class with
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  some of the best D lineman in Virginia Tech History when you
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  had to shine hand Josh wet, Tim settle, the kid that power that
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  went to UNC. I mean with so many guys and we
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  were in the running, Derek naughty, we were in the running
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  for all those guys out of football camp.
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  Everybody, I mentioned was there and we kept finishing number two
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  behind Florida, State Eight behind Penn State and it was
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  because of wasn't so much the program with six and six.
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  That was obvious. We had kind of fallen off but it
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  was more so you can only push the Mantra of them, rabaul, and
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  special teams, and blue collar and stuff.
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  But so much. Because every now and then every
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  few years, scuse me the generation changes and it's just
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  like my son, like my son and turned 16 this year, he's grown
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  up only knowing seeing UVA videos and football like one
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  time, But at the same time, he also has seen the program at
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  last several years. Struggled go three in one and
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  start the season and fall off a cliff and barely make a bowl
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  game. So in his mind, he's like, yo,
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  what's up with your team? You know I'm saying because he's
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  like it's like when I stole his team to, but he's like, you
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  know, we used to be, it's all YouTube stuff.
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  It's all like Memories. You know, and that's when you
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  realize that was time to change like Brian mentioned, because if
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  you keep living off history and what she used to be and showing
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  old clips as much as I love my era, I love the new era to.
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  So I want us to show some new relatable stuff, some, some
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  current events some stuff that that makes you pop right now,
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  you know, you were talking about your area, your era was when
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  when grit wasn't just a slogan. Yeah, yeah, listen man, I'm not
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  I'm not My tab Ash Wednesday, I don't know him but I love, I
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  love the Ho Chi Twitter account. I love social media.
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  I think it's a gift but they also can be a curse.
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  I think for guys like us, we use it for the right reason.
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  I love what y'all do a shout-out to my goddamn v?
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  I loved on V and drift. I love a lot of these guys.
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  I've met and Twitter spaces, so many great tech fans.
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  I chop it up with even UVA another fan bases but the same
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  time and I got so tired. I know Brendan.
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  He will agree with me on this man and he Jay Park and those
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  guys. I got so tired of the
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  manufactured height like, you know, it just it just got to the
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  point where like if you look and again, I'm not, I'm not that old
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  school guy, get off my lawn guy. Like I'm just everything was so
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  much better in my day and everything.
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  The food was better. The Women.
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  Everyone was so much tougher. I'm not that dude.
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  Like, it's not like that, man. I I think there's some talent
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  and gas itself. Now, I think what it happens now
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  is, Get a lot of Manufacturers height and I thought that that
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  hard hat and that grit. And I thought that stuff was
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  corny. I thought it was manufactured
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  height because I see grit and toughness on the field.
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  Like I don't know how many times in the last five, six years, it
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  would be fourth and third and one and we would get stopped or
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  have to call a timeout to run the same play in the same
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  formation. And after by weeks off weeks, we
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  had no Innovative plays, no wrinkles, nothing.
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  New, toughness is not what you can talk about.
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  Can get on Twitter right now and talk about I can do this and
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  this I'm tough. I can bench and I'm strong.
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  I go to Dick's Sporting Goods and get sleeves and hoodies and
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  flex on you. But at the end of the day that's
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  not toughness. That's just manufactured hike
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  because I can go and do all that and walk outside and get punched
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  in the face. Y'all be like, man, big guy
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  smack. I saw, you know, it's tough, you
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  know, but I do think the kids, we have there the last several
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  years were working hard but at the same time, if you don't
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  really No, a working hard is if you haven't been pushed to that
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  limit, if you don't really know what a winning culture is you're
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  just really talking about it, right?
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  So like before I got to Tech Tyrone Drake for and you know,
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  Maurice, deshazo JC Price, William Boatwright, the
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  groundwork has been laid even though right.
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  A few years before I got today, with 281 the year before I got
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  there, Cornell Brown, those guys Antonio Banks were nine and
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  three and then I came in and it was their culture present where
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  I understood what toughness meant and I knew how to win.
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  And I think that's what it's about, not so much.
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  That manufactured height that we were seeing what, you know, I
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  used to laugh but I I would retweet it.
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  I would retweet it. Hoping that it would catch on,
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  you know, out like you know, but we did the same really insane.
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  I've done in life. You saw that when the last two
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  games this season he coached - the Maryland game that was
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  embarrassing but that wasn't on him.
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  We didn't have a team. I wish we we should we should we
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  should have texted terms of score, you know.
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  But at the end of the day, the UVA Miami gave.
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  You saw finally then play with toughness and I think early on
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  under Fuentes regime, you saw toughness those first few years
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  because Bucky and Isaiah Ford and Edmunds, brother.
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  Others. And Greg Stroman were tough.
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  They just need. They needed an offense and I
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  think they understood it. It was just that at that moment
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  the program had cotton got stale but you saw toughness, you saw
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  them, take Clemson, you saw mooc Reynolds and those guys take on
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  Clemson and they went down to Florida State.
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  And you saw some toughness, it was just never sustain.
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  It wasn't, it wasn't. Maybe that was because of lack
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  of depth or maybe there was dissension and team, maybe
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  that's when the whole thing happened with the Keep baking
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  Fiasco and all that other nonsense.
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  But at the end of the day meant there were moments when they
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  showed it. I remember, I'm not gonna lie to
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  y'all in the beginning, man when that when we, when he first got
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  there and we won the coastal and he was coached a year and we
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  went to a Bilbo and won 10 games.
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  I said, man, we finally got it like it's time like, you know,
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  that that Euphoria Euphoria. We feel with Mike young?
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  Yeah, I felt that I was like, man, we got offense averaging.
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  40 points, a game and Jerrod Evans comes back for a year.
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  And then all of a sudden man, somebody said, psyche, Got the
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  got the carpet pulled out from under me.
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  Yeah so we're talking about the transition period here when that
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  was kind of going on. Yeah.
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  After we kind of moved on from Flint a, there was a lot of
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  Twitter spaces out there tally. I know you jumped in a bunch of
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  them. Shout out my gosh.
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  I hope it's not too terribly. Shoutout Jonathan Sally,
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  appreciate you. He would he joined us back in
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  back in. That was a good time.
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  So that was real good. I was a real fun but you were
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  you kind of took on like a kind of a leadership role amongst the
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  fan base among some of the Lum night as we were kind of moving
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  through that. As you said, early talked about
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  some hard truths fans of the athletic department kind of
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  needed to hear. I say, what's up?
• 24:13
  Yeah, that's a real quick. There were times on those
• 24:15
  Twitter's faces. You were saying things and I
• 24:17
  think there were some fans that were muted probably with tears
• 24:21
  coming in their eyes. because, Someone of your ilk had not
• 24:26
  spoken like that in told the truth.
• 24:29
  Mmm Brian. Go ahead and finish, man.
• 24:33
  I'm sorry, interrupt. Yeah, we just don't feel like
• 24:35
  what kind of compelled you kind of take on that role.
• 24:37
  Amongst the fame, he's in the moon's.
• 24:39
  Kind of the, the way, the Hokey Twitter was moving at that time.
• 24:44
  Let me tell you something, man, both of you guys.
• 24:46
  Number one, I'm big fans of you both, man.
• 24:48
  I'm big fans of Virginia Tech, Virginia Tech's my home.
• 24:51
  I get emotional, I think about it, man.
• 24:52
  Like I'm No, I take on people have acknowledged me as like
• 24:57
  when the Virginia Tech ambassadors, you know, I'll ride
• 25:00
  with that, you know, I've written columns for 247 sports
• 25:03
  for years, whatever walk ins, and czy and all of them.
• 25:06
  And I used to be on Hoagie Haven, you know, before that and
• 25:10
  I did the pregame show with Kyle Bailey, Danny knows I've I did
• 25:13
  the pregame, bro. I mean, the spring game
• 25:15
  broadcast in 2013 for Virginia Tech.
• 25:18
  You guys know, I had a great career there.
• 25:19
  I mean, I felt it needed to be said, because I felt like You
• 25:24
  know, I don't think all the fans understood like what this meant
• 25:27
  to all the former players, but you gotta understand man, even
• 25:30
  before, I'd the Vic 757 show, with my cousin Mike and all
• 25:33
  those guys that jumped on, I was having those conversations and
• 25:36
  group chats. I was on the phone, I was part
• 25:39
  of getting people back to Tech but guys didn't want to come
• 25:42
  back because they felt ostracized.
• 25:43
  So I was like, you know what, I'm a self-made, God.
• 25:46
  Like I have businesses. I'm a licensed clinician, I'm a
• 25:49
  father. So if this gets me in a
• 25:52
  situation where When say staff doesn't want me around and so be
• 25:56
  it. But it's funny because even
• 25:57
  before that all went down, I was a mediator when they started
• 26:01
  doing the alumni cuz you know, connections with resumes and
• 26:03
  stuff. So I realize that I'm very well
• 26:06
  respected and well-known but those Twitter spaces was me.
• 26:09
  Just speaking from my heart man. Like you guys got understand
• 26:12
  something. I know you're probably saying
• 26:13
  way man. I am very very busy.
• 26:16
  So yes, when I get when I jump, when I jump on Twitter space
• 26:22
  after setting aside five hours, My Saturday to watch us beat for
• 26:26
  them or form, fareham, 24 to 13 and run the same jet sweeps and
• 26:32
  Dives on third down and no innovation and no connection
• 26:35
  with the fan base or when you go flirt with availa job and you
• 26:39
  come back with a Cryptid tweak, but there's no message you did.
• 26:43
  Because I was there when Beamer interview for the jobs, there
• 26:45
  were press conference, and you better said, there wasn't no
• 26:47
  femur did have a in a team meeting.
• 26:49
  So we knew what was up. I have the Legacy and the
• 26:54
  Connection is to correct. Even some of the media members
• 26:56
  that don't know the history. I know.
• 26:58
  So I started to realize in those Twitter spaces, I have the
• 27:01
  credibility and the respect to speak on stuff because I'm not
• 27:05
  biased. I'll tell you when I suck during
• 27:07
  the game and I'll tell you when they do great.
• 27:10
  I don't have anything to lose because I'm not, I don't have a
• 27:13
  hidden agenda. So when I got no spaces, I, you
• 27:16
  know, I'll share this with everybody listening and watching
• 27:20
  my phone was blowing up, man. When I will be in, I'm going to
• 27:22
  have so many people saying. Thank you so much.
• 27:24
  Much when my favorites and it really made me emotional was the
• 27:28
  great thing. A guy said I can listen to
• 27:29
  Dwight Vic talk about sandpaper and I'm doing this and you know
• 27:35
  so I love the fact that people check for my tweets and stuff
• 27:39
  like this because I think people respect the fact I'm passionate
• 27:43
  but I'm sincere and I care about people and I care about text.
• 27:47
  So I just wanted to talk man, like and the thing about it is,
• 27:50
  what killed me is. People that didn't agree with
• 27:54
  That's fine. I'm not always right on the
• 27:55
  claim to be but it was never criticism about the program as
• 27:59
  if I wanted to be to sabotage it.
• 28:02
  I would much rather be talking about us being seven and two
• 28:06
  getting ready for a chance to win.
• 28:07
  The coastal Verses 4 and 5 after a bizarre loss to Boston College
• 28:13
  on Friday night. You know, like it just it just
• 28:17
  bothered me that we couldn't get to Spring games and that some of
• 28:21
  the best players in Virginia Tech History would not, welcome
• 28:23
  back. Back that, that that Dad hurt
• 28:26
  me, that hurt a lot of us. So you could probably through
• 28:29
  the passion. And, you know, again, that's
• 28:33
  just my school. Like, I care about tech, man.
• 28:35
  And, and, and I just think when you irrational you're
• 28:39
  consistent, and you keep it real, in a way, where you can
• 28:41
  still have a conversation with people.
• 28:44
  I think more people appreciate, appreciate that, and I don't
• 28:48
  mind being the voice of reason. And I don't mind being that guy.
• 28:52
  I take pride in it, but I think Great thing about my guy be fish
• 28:56
  on Twitter. He said, you know, Iraq with you
• 28:59
  Vic because you don't think you're better than me.
• 29:01
  And I said, no, I'm not. We're all a work in progress.
• 29:06
  We're all in this together, then we all lose together, we all
• 29:08
  suffer together. Hopefully, we can start winning
• 29:10
  together. Don't say it.
• 29:12
  Hey, look, man, you think about this man?
• 29:15
  Think about this. Saturday night was how it's
• 29:19
  supposed to be. Yes, that's how it used to be.
• 29:23
  That's how it used to be. Yep.
• 29:25
  That's how I used to be right. Yep.
• 29:27
  We would just whether you were downtown Blacksburg or you went
• 29:31
  d.c. at a bar or you were in New York watching on your phone.
• 29:35
  You were running through the street.
• 29:37
  Let's go hope. Let's go tech.
• 29:39
  Let's go Hokies you. You felt that?
• 29:42
  That's how it's supposed to be and you didn't feel like you
• 29:44
  wasted your time and eat. It Duke had come back and win.
• 29:47
  One we would have suffered together but she would have left
• 29:50
  feeling proud to be a hokie. Because there was times, I said
• 29:54
  I vowed I would never go back to FedEx Field because I said
• 29:57
  through the Boise State laws, I said you assistant daddy Lon
• 30:02
  you're in the USC list. So I said, I will I said I'm
• 30:06
  never going back but I will tell you this and I didn't go back.
• 30:10
  We finally beat West Virginia, right?
• 30:11
  But I'll say this, I'll say this, even when I left and
• 30:15
  setting the worst traffic in the DMV, And FedEx field that
• 30:18
  god-awful Stadium. I'll say this, I still feel good
• 30:22
  because in the parking lot, I talk to people, I had never met
• 30:25
  with the Orangemen ruin on. We just talked about what we
• 30:28
  should have done on this down and how we need it.
• 30:30
  We can still run the table. We can just got to win this
• 30:32
  game, that's what it's about, right?
• 30:34
  That's what brings us together, man.
• 30:36
  But I feel like, yeah, I feel like text do, do you know I'm
• 30:39
  saying? I feel like we do for something,
• 30:41
  right? let's go back to the transition
• 30:47
  hiring process, he had an episode My big man here through
• 30:53
  Brent prize, a dark horse out to get higher.
• 30:56
  We did a bunch of stuff. We went into different
• 30:58
  candidates. Mmm.
• 31:00
  When this happened was he on your radar?
• 31:03
  Or did anybody whisper in your ear and say about Coach prop?
• 31:07
  You know, he was there when you were there.
• 31:09
  It was any cold during that little period Yes, I didn't.
• 31:15
  My God longtime friend. Aaron Foster, in my group chat
• 31:20
  group chat with me, and my guy Clint Williams.
• 31:23
  He's a tech fan. And chiron's death for most
• 31:26
  texts are running back. Arian, put Aaron, put in the
• 31:29
  chat. He was like, Aaron's, the
• 31:31
  Virginia Tech grad. Aaron said what about pride?
• 31:36
  And I said, hmm, that will be a good one.
• 31:38
  That's he's at Penn State. He was like nah, I'm telling
• 31:40
  you, I think text you go out to prime a I think the and then I
• 31:43
  would I kind of look That it and I was like, I didn't really
• 31:46
  hear. I think you guys mentioned them,
• 31:47
  right? He was our door chord.
• 31:49
  We had like ten kids, they were they were all the popular
• 31:53
  candidates and then we had like three or four dark oils like
• 31:55
  well, these are be interesting and he was one of those.
• 31:58
  Yeah, you guys did a great job on that.
• 32:00
  I he was not on my radar, but then when we hired him and I was
• 32:05
  like, that's a great higher. But I wasn't like jumping up and
• 32:09
  down as if it was the savior because I hadn't seen prior
• 32:13
  other than Interacting on Facebook or Twitter, I just knew
• 32:17
  him at Penn State. I didn't know he was a great
• 32:19
  recruiter because he was killing it.
• 32:22
  And I have a lot of you know, Northern Virginia.
• 32:23
  DC and Maryland is a lot of Penn State Alumni appear and they
• 32:26
  really loved him. And I will say this, I took off
• 32:31
  of work or maybe I was working from home, and I watched his
• 32:33
  press conference I'm not gonna lie to y'all.
• 32:36
  That press conference moved me, man.
• 32:38
  You don't really win championships with press
• 32:40
  conferences, but when he talked about that 95 season, that game
• 32:45
  against Miami, and he remembered, and he think, Beamer
• 32:49
  and his lip was quivering. And he, he would, I said, oh my
• 32:53
  God, we have, we finally ditched, this could be it and
• 32:57
  he's not even as I talk to you guys.
• 32:58
  I'm looking away cuz I'm going back to that moment and you
• 33:02
  making me you making me swallow up a little bit.
• 33:06
  I felt it. There's orange and in his blood.
• 33:11
  Yes, no matter. I'm just gonna say this, but
• 33:35
  Located, the people, the fan, Southwest Virginia.
• 33:38
  You can't be an outsider and run that program if you are you
• 33:42
  better be connected in some way. You got to know what it means
• 33:46
  and and Coach Frey, Brent knows he was there.
• 33:48
  He was there with me. He was there, man.
• 33:51
  When we were the Run, told you we came from the mud Brick by
• 33:54
  Brick. He was there when they can't, he
• 33:57
  was there. When the locker room was
• 33:58
  outside, we will get the new lot.
• 34:00
  We still have a place called The Dungeon man.
• 34:02
  Look like something from The Longest Yard, bro.
• 34:04
  She looks crazy. I'll just don't understand man
• 34:07
  you know I'm saying? So like it was wow so yeah man
• 34:09
  Pride with I mean again we don't know like we got to be ODU like
• 34:14
  yeah I know tech fans like me. I'm gonna be at that game.
• 34:17
  My daughter just got into ODU. She she was going to take but
• 34:20
  she's going to owe to you. And I'm okay with that because
• 34:23
  I'm proud of her. I think, you know, as long as
• 34:24
  she's comfortable and she's walking around the house kind of
• 34:27
  like side mean, like oh yeah, we coming for y'all and I'm like
• 34:30
  long time Tech there's like man. We got to win that game.
• 34:34
  It's like, you know, I'm having like anxiety right now because
• 34:37
  we should smash them. But we know we got to see why
• 34:40
  quarterback is guys, see the old line, but I just feel like pride
• 34:44
  gets it and as you mentioned, Brian a budget.
• 34:47
  We have now piercing prioleau. I talk to him.
• 34:50
  He's there gouveia Winslow, just two guys, they have JC price
• 34:56
  Deep got real Robert DB a DB dyrell Roberts nadara left and
• 35:02
  it's Some Darrell got that job in a G5 schools trying to get
• 35:07
  him as a wide receiver coach within two weeks.
• 35:10
  He tells you that fries hiring people that he won't.
• 35:15
  Yes. Yeah.
• 35:18
  That's and and I just feel like the tradition was good.
• 35:22
  I feel like it was it was a key thing to keep Jayceon.
• 35:26
  I just think if he would have left him and his wife, who I
• 35:30
  love dearly, and she was on my podcast as well.
• 35:33
  Hall of Famer. Jin, route priced.
• 35:35
  They spent 17 years, trying to get back to Blacksburg.
• 35:38
  And I'm not going to make last year out to be some great
• 35:41
  season. We went six and seven but
• 35:44
  honestly JC said that class most that recruiting class.
• 35:48
  He saved the program because yes, Marilyn was a debacle was
• 35:52
  embarrassing but we had 25 opt-outs.
• 35:55
  We were playing with guys. We were playing with guys.
• 35:57
  That should have been passing out water bottles.
• 36:00
  It was just one of those things man.
• 36:01
  Maryland. We never lose in Maryland.
• 36:03
  We play Marilyn any other time we smoked them, they can have
• 36:06
  that. I saw.
• 36:07
  I saw your boy Torrey Smith talking.
• 36:10
  I saw him play live and he got smacked going across the middle
• 36:13
  but you know if Maryland, Maryland football, you know, but
• 36:16
  I love. I love.
• 36:17
  I love it. Yes.
• 36:19
  Can I say this JC price? At the end of the UVA game after
• 36:25
  we win in that comment. This is my school.
• 36:29
  This is home. Hmm whoever was going to be the
• 36:34
  coach that man had a State national TV.
• 36:38
  He says that he got hockey fans, swelling up, screaming tearing
• 36:42
  like that's I got and then you find out a few weeks later in
• 36:46
  the Maryland game. He breaks his hand because he
• 36:48
  shows that passion about palliative playing that game.
• 36:52
  He had to stay here. Yeah, chasing prey.
• 36:59
  Again, I love, I love the very Booker's.
• 37:03
  I love the you know Jason world's I can go on on Corey
• 37:07
  Moore who was my locker, meet my brother.
• 37:10
  We have had some great ones. Cornell Brown You Know Carl
• 37:14
  Bradley Chad Beasley you know. So on and so on so many great
• 37:17
  guys man, but I would tell you this man.
• 37:20
  I would put JC price in the Virginia Tech Sports Hall of
• 37:22
  Fame just from that moment right there, right?
• 37:25
  But you guys gotta understand something.
• 37:26
  I would against him for two years, 94, and 95, and JC.
• 37:31
  Price was a man-child. Like, I went against him and he
• 37:34
  never got any better. I went against him and hate
• 37:37
  Coleman and later on in John Dingell burger and Corey Moore,
• 37:41
  how many but JC price to me, you know, is the is what it means to
• 37:47
  be a hokie. Like, if you look it up, just
• 37:49
  what he And I'm not surprised he broke his hand, man.
• 37:53
  That guy was tough man. Like he, he always walked the
• 37:56
  practice like his back and feet hurt, because he went so hard
• 37:59
  every day and insurance them. That whistle blew and lights
• 38:01
  went on, and he was just an animal.
• 38:03
  He had a crazy spin move, but more importantly, man, like we
• 38:06
  were owing to, I'll just say this on your podcast.
• 38:09
  I've said this before, but I'll say it again.
• 38:12
  And 95, that was the most important season of Virginia
• 38:14
  Tech History. I know the 80 17 Bemis.
• 38:16
  First she was important and they played, you know, a few years
• 38:19
  before. That the toughest schedule or
• 38:21
  the nation or the 5th toughest schedule, there was some lean
• 38:24
  years and he had to do some great work with some players
• 38:27
  that could have gone to bigger programs with the time.
• 38:29
  But the 95 season was important because we were only two men and
• 38:35
  we lost two games. We should have lost two, we're
• 38:36
  coming off, you know? The 16 and nothing.
• 38:39
  Losses, Cincinnati in the rain. We didn't even score in
• 38:41
  Cincinnati was trash which then lost them and dream.
• 38:44
  Drunk until I remember seeing him, I was a redshirt freshman.
• 38:47
  I remember looking and he just had his head down and it was
• 38:49
  raining. So hard.
• 38:51
  And I said, man, like we may not win a game and I'm like, what is
• 38:55
  going on with you? Just we're too good and we
• 38:58
  couldn't figure out what was going on.
• 39:00
  And I remember thinking, man, like, you know, they were
• 39:02
  Whispers that, you know, Dave bring was the ad and him and be
• 39:06
  more with tight but they were Whispers like, wow.
• 39:08
  Like what if this doesn't work out, we'll be more be let go,
• 39:11
  you know, it just was crazy. So you have all that going on in
• 39:15
  Miami, the real Miami that you got the one now, where they hold
• 39:20
  up a chain a little bit sugar, could change the real Miami.
• 39:24
  The real Miami were Ray Lewis and Rohan Marley, and all those
• 39:28
  guys are household names, you know.
• 39:30
  No, they're coming to Blacksburg where we never won, we never
• 39:34
  beat him and that's when they have swag that's when they would
• 39:36
  run to your Sidelines. Shout out to my God Ray Lewis,
• 39:39
  he was on the show with me and my great Lois is my guy love
• 39:43
  them or hate them. I love them.
• 39:44
  I know he's our rival but he is one of the best athletes and
• 39:48
  linebackers have ever seen and he was all over that field we
• 39:50
  went and we punch them in the mouth but before we get to that
• 39:54
  moment, we're in the locker room at Owen to embarrass their own
• 39:57
  home field, lost two consecutive home games, and She price in
• 40:01
  jimbaran to the best defensive linemen and leaders in Virginia
• 40:03
  Tech History said, Let's Stay Together.
• 40:06
  We're brothers, were family. We're not gonna lose another
• 40:08
  game. We had a players only meeting in
• 40:09
  the hotel and RAV4 where we used to stay before games and we told
• 40:13
  beans and them and Billy heightening, the get out, we
• 40:16
  just said, we got to talk. I was a young kid, I was just
• 40:19
  watching us all go down. I was like, this is a method
• 40:21
  like I was in a movie like A League of Their Own or something
• 40:24
  or like Varsity Blues. It was, it was just like, I'm in
• 40:26
  a movie, bro, and I'm looking at Jason price is a Emotional guy,
• 40:31
  like me and the seniors talked, you know, drunken Miller
• 40:34
  everybody you know was talking and we came in and we beat Miami
• 40:38
  wasn't a pretty score was 13 and 7, but Lauren Johnson made the
• 40:41
  key play, but JC prices. Is he epitomizes what it means
• 40:46
  to be a hokie man and I stand by what I said when we hired him
• 40:50
  and that Virginia Tech fans will all.
• 40:52
  I think I retweeted my tweet with receipts said, here's some
• 40:56
  receipts but I said you know. Virginia Tech fans will love
• 40:58
  this higher when it's all said and done.
• 41:00
  Done. So the transition has been good.
• 41:02
  Now, to be honest with you guys, we got to win.
• 41:04
  We got to win the biggest issue. Would take going back to my
• 41:07
  years and even after I left, even during the Tie Rod, Ryan
• 41:10
  Williams years, we have to start winning games, were supposed to
• 41:14
  win. If you ask me, you know
• 41:18
  facilities, yes, money budget, coaching staff, recruiting all
• 41:22
  that's obvious and you got to do it, which we've done with knows,
• 41:25
  guys have done that prize doing it, but on the field, we got us.
• 41:30
  You know, my senior year we lost the temple, little 14th in the
• 41:34
  country had lost 35 consecutive games.
• 41:37
  The following year, we lost the mind or the year.
• 41:39
  Before we lost the Miami, Ohio at home.
• 41:41
  Everyone knows about Boise State, J mu You know, we got to
• 41:46
  start winning these games against Boston College.
• 41:49
  We got to start beating. We do good against UVA and
• 41:52
  Carolina is that for like, we take them seriously, but we got
• 41:55
  to start winning. Those games were supposed to win
• 41:57
  like those games. Like here we go, Virginia Tech's
• 42:00
  going to, they're going to do what Hokies do and you like, how
• 42:02
  did we lose it? We only win that game.
• 42:05
  We would be in this bowl, you know.
• 42:06
  We got to start winning those games.
• 42:08
  Like, we, you know, I want to start getting back to.
• 42:10
  We saw that one year with Gerard Evans, his only here at Tech.
• 42:14
  We were just Question, ECU 55 to whatever?
• 42:18
  Yeah, we got to start getting, we got to start getting the
• 42:20
  games, we win those games, you know I'm saying, you have to
• 42:24
  work teams like that. Essentially, you want them
• 42:28
  losing the second. They step on the bus, weaving
• 42:31
  their Stadium. That's how you want to be and,
• 42:35
  you know, haven't done that for a long time.
• 42:37
  For a long time, it was like that.
• 42:39
  We don't step on throats anymore.
• 42:41
  We don't, when we get up, we don't we don't finish them but
• 42:45
  we let them hang around and then then it's a game and what would
• 42:49
  it? But a lot of times with with I
• 42:51
  mean, you got BC for whatever reason we get up as you said for
• 42:55
  UVA, we get up for UNC. We take them seriously even
• 42:59
  though they're more or less mid in the conference, right?
• 43:03
  But we don't we don't take those other teams like wake like BC.
• 43:06
  We don't take those games as seriously as we should and by
• 43:11
  extension we don't play like we should not and I mostly know
• 43:15
  mentality that continue here coming out of brick prize mouth.
• 43:19
  I want guys to hate to lose every time there it is.
• 43:25
  My buddy. We count them down in North
• 43:27
  Wilkesboro hate to lose. That's the mentality.
• 43:31
  He's trying to instill and he's talked about like the
• 43:34
  one-on-ones during winter workouts.
• 43:36
  Like, I want you to hate losing to your brother hate to live.
• 43:41
  Because if you hate, he gets down in crunch time.
• 43:45
  As he said today in his interview you will do anything
• 43:49
  to win because I hate to lose, you know, that's the mentality.
• 43:54
  He's going with And yeah, and that's I don't think that's been
• 44:00
  a mentality here for a long time.
• 44:02
  And now, man, you know, I remember last year, I tweeted by
• 44:06
  we're playing Richmond and we will up, and then he put the 20
• 44:11
  and then put the backup quarterback in.
• 44:14
  We were only up like a touchdown and we were in our own in on
• 44:18
  part of our point. We were near we're near our own
• 44:21
  End Zone in the back up to a pic.
• 44:23
  Yeah, not my type. We're struggling to beat
• 44:26
  Richmond. I was like what is going on and
• 44:29
  if I believe that's the game, I haven't watched that game since
• 44:32
  ended. But I believe that's the game.
• 44:34
  We're taping on Robinson right now.
• 44:36
  Put it back. Yep.
• 44:38
  Or or it was going to be a dogfight in the fourth quarter
• 44:41
  and and you're right. We haven't we haven't stepped on
• 44:44
  teams throats in a long time but I think again I'm not I'm sure
• 44:48
  it was the same way when DJ Parker was there and even after
• 44:51
  I left. But I feel like one thing that
• 44:53
  was a staple of our During the times, I was there in the even
• 44:58
  subsequently thereafter was there was competition in
• 45:02
  everything we had to compete and there were fights and there was
• 45:06
  battles in practice, you can ask Brandon Flowers, it was
• 45:11
  competition. Josh always be a talk about it.
• 45:13
  Like it was, it was Justin Harper and those guys will tell
• 45:16
  you the DBS versus receivers it was real and that's what prize
• 45:19
  talking about because I know they had that up there at Penn
• 45:21
  State with him and Anthony Poindexter and we're going to
• 45:24
  get back there. I definitely know it's going to
• 45:26
  be there now but the point I'm getting at that you mentioned.
• 45:28
  Kurt is like, you got to be a doll.
• 45:30
  You got to be a jerk. I remember a man ACC the first
• 45:34
  several years in the conference. I think the first two years we
• 45:37
  went 16 and 1 in a row, we went 1601 and I went to Road games on
• 45:42
  purpose and teams needed us Marilyn, Wake Forest, but
• 45:48
  because we would talk trash and take their Turf with the year,
• 45:52
  Wake Forest when it, we beat them. 26 and they won the ACC.
• 45:57
  And we be anything about is Nolan burchett and a DB and
• 46:04
  Vince Hall where jerks on the field.
• 46:08
  I mean, they were hitting people.
• 46:09
  They were so physical and it wasn't that whole targeting
• 46:11
  thing. They just did not, they didn't
• 46:14
  care. They talked to Jimmy Williams.
• 46:16
  I was at Maryland when he decapitated the guy and he was
• 46:20
  on Maryland side, he stood up all 65 of them, I can't repeat
• 46:23
  what he said. Because I really want to go in.
• 46:26
  But but my whole point being is that Fu mentality has been gone.
• 46:31
  We have not been, we got we, and I remember talking to on one of
• 46:37
  the Twitter spaces and I hate to bring this back up because they
• 46:40
  are is done, but I felt like we had a lot of guys that were good
• 46:45
  players and very good. Good, good people but didn't
• 46:49
  have that switch, right? Because I'm a great guy.
• 46:53
  I'm going to tell you but I'm a good dude, but On the field.
• 46:56
  I talked I was I was I was an asshole.
• 46:59
  You don't feel like you got to have a switch, you got to have a
• 47:03
  sale not to be a sweat, you know, saying I remember going
• 47:06
  against Chris whole van and different guys, different teams.
• 47:09
  I mean, I remember on UVA, sideline, I said something to
• 47:12
  George. Well, sure.
• 47:13
  I mean, you only remember, you know, I'm saying, like I
• 47:16
  remember my longtime friend of teenage from high school might
• 47:19
  Hawkins, man. He's my we're close, he's a UVA
• 47:21
  guy, you know, he played at UVA last team to beat Tech in
• 47:25
  Blacksburg and we're still tight.
• 47:27
  But during that game, I didn't care.
• 47:31
  I hate, I mean, you, you you got to have hatred, you know?
• 47:34
  And I know this may be hard for some people to understand.
• 47:37
  It doesn't mean you. You can't relate if you didn't
• 47:39
  play, but it's just about competition, man.
• 47:42
  Like I'm telling you, I meant talk, you guys were there, go
• 47:45
  back and look at those teams. The first several years in ACC
• 47:48
  with Virginia Tech, you know, they will mean they were
• 47:54
  bullshit. He I call they were gonna knock
• 47:57
  off USC because they were popping USC.
• 48:01
  I'll be yes. That wasn't what growls in camp
• 48:04
  at Sydney. I was in Longwood in my
• 48:06
  apartment. I'm feeling drunk and we were
• 48:09
  just, it was just, and you just saw them, like, you can see USC,
• 48:14
  say, wait a second. This team's unranked weirdest,
• 48:19
  its 80,000 people just, we can't hear anything.
• 48:23
  And every time we get over to me, It'll pop.
• 48:27
  Yep. In light of up, light em up.
• 48:30
  So it was a different mentality. And let me ask this because I
• 48:36
  want to know you guys who play. It didn't take long Brent price
• 48:41
  started getting you guys on phone calls and zoom calls.
• 48:44
  Love it, love it, love it. I mean how big was that it I
• 48:48
  mean it wasn't like three, four months and it was like a couple
• 48:51
  weeks in. He gets as many of you guys as
• 48:54
  he can. Can in.
• 48:56
  Yeah, and you've already talked about how you guys had kind of
• 48:59
  felt distance from the program that and out saying, I want to
• 49:04
  talk to all of you not just like, not just like Mike, oh
• 49:08
  Cam, but you played here, we want you to come talk to us.
• 49:13
  How does that make you feel? As a as an alumni?
• 49:16
  And as a, you know, big piece of this program.
• 49:19
  That if you played here, you're one of us, come here.
• 49:24
  You know, you mentioned. Kurt you and you and be you
• 49:28
  mentioned the Twitter spaces. Let me tell y'all something
• 49:30
  right now. Don't ever get it twisted.
• 49:32
  They are Tech coaches and people in the front office that are on
• 49:37
  those students but they just might have an egg as a profile
• 49:39
  pic or they might be under a fake name but I promise you that
• 49:43
  but that's been a lot of stuff done.
• 49:45
  Did I mention and the next day or later that week it was done.
• 49:49
  I'm sorry. They listen, they know and I'm
• 49:51
  okay with that. I mean they should have to eat
• 49:53
  to this. Trees.
• 49:54
  I think I'd end of the day. It was it was critical man
• 49:58
  because try understands he comes from a situation where heat the
• 50:04
  alumni relations at Penn State or how they're supposed to be.
• 50:07
  So I think he understood I think, you know, honestly guys,
• 50:11
  we're still not even done getting everybody on board
• 50:13
  because, you know, a lot of ground has to be made up because
• 50:16
  there's been such a big disk than that.
• 50:18
  So, I've been part of it another guys, but the great news is guys
• 50:23
  understand. They want to be there.
• 50:25
  They felt wanted and Start just to be more geysers to duly guy
• 50:29
  as a guy from the 70s and 80s. They all they all want to be a
• 50:33
  part of it. I think the biggest
• 50:34
  misconception was that they felt that we wanted tickets or a we
• 50:40
  wanted like rooms blocked off and we wanted like a bunch of
• 50:44
  hobos coming through and we wanted to statues.
• 50:46
  Made it won't about all that it was more.
• 50:50
  So about man like we want to be part of program.
• 50:53
  The last June we had the stuff they're talking about is just so
• 50:56
  impressed. They want us to be there to
• 50:59
  speak to the team they want and said practices, they want to do
• 51:02
  Legacy camps where human players help out with the with the
• 51:06
  current players or recruits they are.
• 51:09
  So in line with getting us on board and Pride is All In.
• 51:13
  He's jumping on a resume resume. We had when I was a moderator,
• 51:17
  went was on there. I've always Rock Wit Babcock's
• 51:20
  my God, Mike Byrne. That was on there.
• 51:24
  Everybody was on there including Anthony midget Mike.
• 51:27
  Big Roger, Whittaker, every household name, this is right
• 51:30
  before when they left but he never jumped on, he never jumped
• 51:34
  on the same way. He didn't meet the 99 team when
• 51:37
  they were there for the reunions.
• 51:38
  So you know at the end of the day man you got to get you got
• 51:42
  to have somebody that cares about players because when I
• 51:45
  chose Virginia Tech, I was ranked 4th in the nation by
• 51:47
  Sporting News had offers from Florida and every school you can
• 51:51
  think of just about just like a lot of guys that are heavily
• 51:54
  recruited. I was at a very rare.
• 51:57
  We really, really historic program at Hampton High where we
• 52:00
  won national and state championships, you know, it's
• 52:02
  not the same now, but it's still legendary.
• 52:05
  I remember it was like they were still rocking like that when I
• 52:09
  was in high school, if I don't come to tech, there is no might.
• 52:16
  There is no Marcus. I also helped host Lisa's.
• 52:21
  I also helped host Terrell parm and other guys, and ronyell
• 52:25
  Whitaker. So my point being to Domino.
• 52:27
  Right? You got to take care of the guys
• 52:29
  laid down the groundwork, the markets Parker is the Tony
• 52:32
  Kennedy's. You know, the Tyrone Drake was
• 52:35
  you got to take care of those guys.
• 52:36
  The Chris berries you got to take care of those guys because
• 52:39
  they came and laid down the groundwork, even the guys from
• 52:42
  1987 in 1977 the gene buns. Jean bun still is all time
• 52:47
  interception leader for Virginia Tech and he still follows the
• 52:51
  team. They had to create your own
• 52:53
  tailgate space but God, no but giatec Sports Hall of Fame.
• 52:56
  Should not I have to create his own tailgate space.
• 52:59
  It's embarrassing. So the point being is, but
• 53:03
  that's all being rectified right now.
• 53:05
  That's all being fixed. So identity today to answer your
• 53:09
  question, Kurt, man. It's just it's exciting.
• 53:13
  I'ma tell y'all right now spring game might be 70,000 dog, right
• 53:18
  now, we're in a buzz, I'm going to be there, I know Curtis is
• 53:23
  still trying to. He's got, he's got, he's got,
• 53:26
  he's got Ball games Lennox, man. I'm gonna be there though.
• 53:29
  I'm going to be there. Yeah, I think I saw the golf
• 53:33
  tournament thing drop today with a bunch of big names.
• 53:36
  Like the white golf tournament. All right?
• 53:41
  You gotta catch you, some of the best swings, some of the worst
• 53:44
  and put them on. I know, I know, I talked to
• 53:50
  Mike, we supposed to be I can tell you right now.
• 53:56
  I'm not as bad as Berkeley. But I know when I go to Top Golf
• 53:59
  up here in northern Virginia, my wife, my wife can play golf, she
• 54:03
  can hit that thing I'm up there looking like on the like, you
• 54:06
  know, I just some I just learned how to walk.
• 54:08
  I just can't swing. I don't know.
• 54:11
  Golf. Golf and baseball have my
• 54:13
  respect because there's an actual technique to it.
• 54:16
  People think it's easy, but let me tell you something.
• 54:19
  But Devon Morgan is doing that right?
• 54:22
  Yeah, Morgan yeah yeah, sure. Devon Devon, he hit me up when
• 54:28
  he was planning it and he told me he was going to be great man
• 54:30
  and I'm I'm really happy that you know it's just it's just
• 54:34
  going to be a really good time. It just it feels good because
• 54:37
  it's how it's supposed to be. That's why I know it's going to
• 54:39
  be a lot of people in town. It's gonna be a great day,
• 54:42
  hopefully the weather holds up, I was there one year when the
• 54:45
  game got canceled, this is back. When I think JC Coleman
• 54:50
  committed or maybe Bucky Hodges when we got like six commits,
• 54:52
  but it rained out and we didn't have it again.
• 54:55
  And then I Are one year when it raining still played it but it
• 54:59
  was just like uh when the weather is nice and Blacksburg,
• 55:02
  you can see all those orange and maroon shirts.
• 55:05
  You know. I don't even care about the
• 55:06
  game. The game is always dry but it's
• 55:08
  just the fact you get a chance to see the future of the
• 55:11
  program, you know? Yeah.
• 55:13
  Big Fan Experience. Good chance to like get on the
• 55:17
  field after the game. Talk to the players a little
• 55:19
  bit. Talk to the some former players.
• 55:22
  I know we last went the last really What with the last real
• 55:27
  decent spring game was the first one if went days here.
• 55:30
  I guess was the last decent one back in 2016.
• 55:36
  Yeah, that was a good time but we really haven't had had a had
• 55:39
  a proper spring game since then - well you just you just you
• 55:44
  depriving the fans man. Let me tell you something, man,
• 55:46
  and your fan base, especially up a GM Tech, is your lifeline,
• 55:50
  it's your foundation because, you know, it gives you, it gives
• 55:54
  you a little bit more. To get yourself together like,
• 55:57
  you know, because the fans believe in you, man, it
• 56:00
  permeates through the program, right?
• 56:02
  Because it's like, well, you know what, we've been dealing
• 56:04
  with injuries, we're going to get this thing right when you
• 56:06
  ostracised their fans and you look down on us and you talk to
• 56:11
  us as if we're inferior. You are especially with tech
• 56:14
  fans. Yeah.
• 56:15
  This is not that this is not the fanbase to insult or act like
• 56:19
  you know, more than us. I mean, think about this, you
• 56:21
  got boundary podcast, you got the stuff I do.
• 56:25
  You got Dom V. You got my guy, Rick, Rick
• 56:30
  Barry. The auricular blues.
• 56:32
  Here's my thing with Rick Barry basketball.
• 56:34
  But yeah, you got texts online. I'm sorry if I'm anybody, but
• 56:39
  this fan base in the culture around it, the podcast Community
• 56:43
  is so deep. So rich and every I mean I told
• 56:47
  you guys I check for your stuff all the time.
• 56:48
  You guys are always dropping nuggets.
• 56:50
  I sit there, I have it on my phone, I'll turn the TV down,
• 56:53
  I'll be listening to y'all my wife's like what you're
• 56:54
  listening to. I'm not a yam.
• 56:56
  My guys over the boundary, you know, I mean so it's this great
• 56:59
  man. And I mean, the spring game is
• 57:01
  going to be a lot of fun, not entertainment.
• 57:04
  I don't think the game is going to be great, but it's going to
• 57:06
  be cool to kind of get a glimpse at.
• 57:07
  Okay, I remember him. He's the backup to this guy.
• 57:09
  I like him. He's got nice eyes.
• 57:11
  I remember having a feel for the roster.
• 57:14
  I mean, the first game of the year I'm like, who gets
• 57:17
  especially, when guys switch numbers, I don't even know who
• 57:18
  the heck. Anybody is anymore, man.
• 57:22
  But you know, it's going to be great.
• 57:24
  Quarterbacks number one, I saw that today.
• 57:26
  They Browns going to take one and that's a heck of the story
• 57:28
  of kid from Fredericksburg, want to go to take his whole life.
• 57:32
  And he finally comes back in a second transfer, which is
• 57:35
  awesome to hear. Because he said, this is his
• 57:38
  dream school, and he went to st. Francis play went down to South
• 57:42
  Carolina and then comes back up. And you know, I wish I could
• 57:47
  make spring and I got two kids and Sports in the spring.
• 57:50
  I'm just thankful. It's going to be on TV.
• 57:53
  So when I get out of those games I can, Come home, I can watch
• 57:57
  it, I can enjoy it because we haven't even had that access
• 58:01
  over the last few years. And I'm not talking to someone
• 58:05
  else that we hadn't had over the last few years, is a real
• 58:09
  display in Virginia. Recruiting That's not the case
• 58:12
  anymore. Because of what we've done these
• 58:16
  first few months. I mean, just Blitz and Virginia
• 58:18
  in every corner, it's buzzing everywhere.
• 58:21
  It's not just buzzing here in the RBA.
• 58:24
  It's not just buzzing up in Northern Virginia, it's not just
• 58:28
  buzzing in this up. It's everywhere.
• 58:29
  These guys are hitting every school.
• 58:33
  And how is that making you guys who are from Virginia?
• 58:36
  Feel like like Cornell. I know.
• 58:39
  Cornell's coaching out in Texas Joe.
• 58:41
  Rudolph went to EC glass to visit.
• 58:45
  EC glass puts about one kid in a D1.
• 58:47
  School about every ten years, but Joe Rudolph.
• 58:50
  And his staff Walden there. You decide to sit down and have
• 58:54
  a conversation with their head coach in some of their
• 58:57
  administrators. I said making you guys, it makes
• 59:01
  us good. It makes us feel good.
• 59:02
  I remember a few years ago, my wife and I were watching said
• 59:05
  being and she was like, I feel like we don't have any gas from
• 59:08
  Virginia anymore. I remember like Watching Ted
• 59:11
  games like oh yeah, I remember that kid.
• 59:12
  He went to Stonebridge or like we had like six guys from Deep
• 59:17
  Creek and four guys from Western Branch and we had three kids
• 59:21
  from Thomas Dale and then you had a couple of guys from
• 59:23
  Florida and two guys from Georgia and it was just a great,
• 59:27
  great mix. And I feel like, When bhima
• 59:30
  retired, he gave you the blueprint.
• 59:31
  It just needed a little bit of juice.
• 59:33
  He gave me the blueprint on recruiting, you know, he was
• 59:36
  recruiting, he was recruiting Derek naughty.
• 59:38
  He was recruiting, Josh, sweat, and jailing homes.
• 59:42
  He was recruiting to Sean had all Virginia, guys.
• 59:45
  He was recruiting. Tim said, Owen Greg Stroman.
• 59:47
  Look at you. If you read formerly known as
• 59:50
  Stonewall High School, all the great guys that came from that
• 59:52
  High School, Tim settled, Greg strowman Reggie, Floyd's Ryan
• 59:57
  Williams. I mean, come on, bro.
• 59:59
  Like identity today we weren't in the old school and even
• 1:00:02
  recently they had the guy that's going to Alabama, you know I'm
• 1:00:05
  saying, Sean Murphy, who was a five-star recruit so we weren't
• 1:00:09
  hitting those schools like we were so I mean a lot of guys
• 1:00:11
  that happy man because there was some resentment man, there was a
• 1:00:15
  lot of resentment from former players that felt like why are
• 1:00:18
  we not going to Oscar Smith Highland Springs Westfield in
• 1:00:25
  those schools that are in the state championship?
• 1:00:27
  So state tournament The playoffs while we not going to Lafayette
• 1:00:31
  that has a guy that looks like just like dyrell Roberts who's
• 1:00:35
  going to Liberty or going to Richmond, who wanted to be a
• 1:00:38
  hokie guys from Green Run High School, who are three low for
• 1:00:42
  start recruits, who will Thrive at Virginia Tech, we weren't
• 1:00:45
  even offering them. I know the peninsula District my
• 1:00:49
  district where I play that used to be the best District in
• 1:00:51
  Virginia for decades, it's not anymore, but even so with that
• 1:00:55
  being said, Phoebus just won the state championship and
• 1:00:58
  regardless of How good the district is, Ricky Walker and
• 1:01:02
  other guys. Jimmy Williams came from Bethel
• 1:01:04
  High School, we weren't offering Bethel.
• 1:01:05
  But then you see how can't pronounce his name awesome while
• 1:01:09
  whatever from Bethel, who wanted to, go to Tech, who went to
• 1:01:13
  Northern in Orchard a kilt. It and got drafted and you like
• 1:01:18
  he wanted to come to Tech. We didn't offer him like that.
• 1:01:22
  What so again, that's a huge thing because let me tell you
• 1:01:26
  guys, something you guys are, you guys were in a podcast.
• 1:01:29
  I have a few podcasts. I have Victory Life.
• 1:01:33
  Branding is everything. The Virginia Tech brand for
• 1:01:35
  decades was very respected. You had Beamer ball which was a
• 1:01:40
  household name. They still yell at, you'll be
• 1:01:42
  watching the game. Boise State playing Nevada on
• 1:01:45
  Saturday night at 10:30 in the Galaxy a little bigger ball
• 1:01:48
  tonight, huh? Like even like, wow and it has,
• 1:01:51
  you know, so then you had the lunch pail.
• 1:01:54
  So you had two iconic, one assaying, a phrase, another one
• 1:01:59
  assemble, a lunch pail, that became a staple of Virginia Tech
• 1:02:05
  football. That was known Nationwide
• 1:02:06
  branding and the brand have become Stella last several years
• 1:02:10
  ago, nobody in Virginia respected, The Branding anymore.
• 1:02:13
  And when you're losing the ODU and Liberty and you're barely
• 1:02:17
  beating Richmond, your brand is taking a hit because if you are
• 1:02:21
  nice player, you're a good player.
• 1:02:22
  You like, I mean y'all. Loss of Liberty, man.
• 1:02:25
  What can you offer me? You know, they put a guy, you
• 1:02:28
  know, and I'm not knocking I but I have two masters from Liberty.
• 1:02:31
  I'm not knocking Liberty, but don't make no mistake about it.
• 1:02:35
  I took a kid, but one of my clients, two years ago, a few
• 1:02:39
  years ago on a College Tour, 20 to you.
• 1:02:43
  Most of their presentation, especially the guy to, you know,
• 1:02:46
  culture, and why did she come to ODU was about beating Virginia
• 1:02:49
  Tech? And I was sitting there so
• 1:02:52
  embarrassed happy for my kid, but like what?
• 1:02:55
  So my point being is the brand in state took a hit because we
• 1:03:01
  didn't have any more State pride.
• 1:03:03
  We didn't have any State pride, you know?
• 1:03:05
  I'm sorry, but like I don't have nothing against Texas, man.
• 1:03:08
  What's Texas doing right now? I mean, Texas football really
• 1:03:12
  come on, man, this is not 1988 with Boobie Miles, you know,
• 1:03:16
  saying this is not, you know, I'm saying, this is not that we
• 1:03:18
  don't text this. I mean, think about Ami High
• 1:03:21
  School coaches. Y'all know, I know a lot that
• 1:03:23
  were offended with that. Hashtag, I know that's old news.
• 1:03:28
  Now is water under the bridge but at the end of the day we are
• 1:03:31
  very, very happy I speak for a lot of us, the fact that we were
• 1:03:35
  recruiting State and here's the thing I love Virginia but I also
• 1:03:38
  want to get the Florida guys. I want to get know your Georgia
• 1:03:42
  and South Carolina, but you got to you got to take care of our
• 1:03:45
  home. You got to George Welch, a great
• 1:03:48
  UVA Coach Frank Beamer. The icon, the god, the Hall of
• 1:03:52
  Fame. Coach both said, you know you,
• 1:03:55
  when you stay, you're going to be in great shape.
• 1:03:57
  You know, you when your state you're going to be playing for a
• 1:03:59
  lot because Virginia is the rich taking talent.
• 1:04:02
  I mean, look how many times Alabama and Ohio State and
• 1:04:04
  Clemson come down here and pluck players, you know?
• 1:04:07
  And I'm just glad that would make an effort to get those
• 1:04:10
  guys. You know I'm saying Yeah, it's
• 1:04:13
  been a big push and I'm glad to see you, too.
• 1:04:15
  I mean, we had talked to a couple High School coaches, that
• 1:04:18
  as you said were offended by that push you know, especially
• 1:04:23
  when you have other folks talking about.
• 1:04:25
  Well, the town in Virginia. Wasn't that good this year?
• 1:04:28
  That's why we were looking outside the state that Ruffles
• 1:04:33
  feathers. I mean, any, it doesn't
• 1:04:36
  necessarily burn Bridges, but it makes it a hell of a lot harder
• 1:04:38
  to get across them. that guy said that when the sons and
• 1:04:41
  Saturday that the guy was on the sons of Saturday podcast, that
• 1:04:45
  said that fruiting You know. Is you won't even join your due
• 1:05:19
  diligence and even to second to that point, he won't even do
• 1:05:23
  your due diligence. And we're losing two kids that
• 1:05:26
  were at Wake Forest. And Boston, College, and
• 1:05:31
  Liberty. Who were the guys that you said,
• 1:05:33
  weren't good enough to play a tech.
• 1:05:35
  So my point being is wait, for is even now has a guy named
• 1:05:39
  justice, Allison, his dad Shelly.
• 1:05:42
  I listened with the help that I play with me.
• 1:05:44
  His mom is also a graduate of Virginia Tech Sharia, listen.
• 1:05:47
  In. And he's a baller for Wake
• 1:05:49
  Forest. He went to Foothill never even
• 1:05:52
  interest from Tech. Again, it's a private school in
• 1:05:54
  Fairfax County but you've got to know the connections and there
• 1:05:58
  are a lot of former players like me that text the coaches that
• 1:06:01
  say hey coach check out this guy but they stopped doing it.
• 1:06:05
  And they would Drake injures another guy, he's a Lynchburg
• 1:06:08
  God, he starts in his guys to UVA, another Schools, home
• 1:06:12
  visits and recruiting camps because he knew Tech wasn't
• 1:06:15
  gonna take interest in them like to me.
• 1:06:17
  Force in Boston College and Liberty are beating you with the
• 1:06:20
  same, guys, you said weren't good enough to play at your
• 1:06:22
  school. Pittsburgh Pittsburgh had seven
• 1:06:26
  guys. Yeah, tons of guys from the 757
• 1:06:30
  you know again. Anyway you guys to try and get
• 1:06:32
  me riled up. It's late way, can't Boogie
• 1:06:34
  bash. Yeah, but there are so many now
• 1:06:41
  I'm going to say this because I had a lot of Virginia I think
• 1:06:48
  think JC might have been that dagger that forced it because
• 1:06:53
  you start looking to 2022, you got like gonna given to somebody
• 1:06:57
  tie. You got Meadows and Ahmad,
• 1:07:00
  Bradshaw, son from Bluefield Ice Cube from up your way.
• 1:07:06
  Malachi Madison from Thomas. Dale here.
• 1:07:09
  Lamar Law Firm down into seven. It's like JC showed up with the
• 1:07:14
  old coaching staff and said look.
• 1:07:18
  There is a lot of good kids here and these guys can come play for
• 1:07:23
  us in the thing is if you start cultivating a relationship and
• 1:07:27
  taking the kid who can play here, when that five-star comes
• 1:07:31
  in, you're going to be in. I don't think the old staff
• 1:07:34
  believed it would work. I think the newsstand truly
• 1:07:37
  believes that. It works like relationships
• 1:07:40
  first relationships. They're preaching it like
• 1:07:43
  relationships are key because if I come Come down and visit
• 1:07:48
  everybody in the school and I know everybody's name in.
• 1:07:51
  There was a there was some to Starkid we like and we gave me a
• 1:07:56
  scholarship. When the Big 4 star 5 Star kids
• 1:08:01
  in that school, they're gonna remember years ago.
• 1:08:04
  Y'all gave John a chance. Mmm play yep.
• 1:08:10
  Nope, people don't. Lou off the table, your former
• 1:08:29
  teammate which Summit, which one of these new staff members has
• 1:08:33
  like culture that you like, you know, maybe you've already
• 1:08:38
  talked to him or like I want to talk to him.
• 1:08:42
  What did call them cheetah? The cheetah coach.
• 1:08:49
  He just really look like. He's a fun guy to hang out with
• 1:08:52
  man. Like he just looks like he's the
• 1:08:54
  guy and let me just before I dive into that just want to say
• 1:08:58
  I am a big fan. They didn't, he didn't he wasn't
• 1:09:01
  retained but I just want to say that someone on are on live on
• 1:09:04
  your podcast. I feel like Justin Hamilton that
• 1:09:08
  the hell of a job as a coach. I love Justin Hamilton As a
• 1:09:12
  person, he's a great coaching mind.
• 1:09:15
  I feel like he would have been great but I understand it's a
• 1:09:17
  business because I wanted coached on Spring to come back.
• 1:09:20
  He you know, he's a guy that I thought would be great for
• 1:09:22
  recruiting and he was definitely interested in coming back.
• 1:09:26
  But as far as the new staff, man, obviously my man Rudolf the
• 1:09:32
  old line coach, right? I mean dude, like he just
• 1:09:36
  reminds me of my old coach coach Grimes who coached at Virginia
• 1:09:39
  Tech coach in the SEC. The SEC guy but he was at
• 1:09:43
  Virginia Tech during the 90s actually probably was there with
• 1:09:45
  J-B Grimes. Keep him in prayer, child to
• 1:09:48
  coach ground, he's down the cancer.
• 1:09:51
  So I wanted him to get healthy and get well, but cheetahs fund.
• 1:09:55
  May I look at his tweets and he just always talking trash but
• 1:09:58
  also dropping knowledge. Yeah, so he looks like he just
• 1:10:01
  always having a good time and then Coach Rudolph, man, just
• 1:10:06
  looks like somebody would have loved to play for.
• 1:10:07
  I mean, just looks like he's always walking around with the
• 1:10:10
  chin out and he looks like he has He shaved in a couple of
• 1:10:13
  weeks and he just looks like, you know, he doesn't care if you
• 1:10:16
  like him. Those are two guys, I think are
• 1:10:19
  going to be huge for the staff because I think that have a
• 1:10:22
  balance. You got to have the right
• 1:10:23
  energy. I'm did Jack.
• 1:10:28
  Tyler, did they retain him? They did not retain Jack.
• 1:10:32
  Okay? I thought they did how was
• 1:10:34
  shelter? Jake Tyler anyway man.
• 1:10:36
  You know, he wasn't he was in a tough situation.
• 1:10:38
  Yeah. But he got put in a tough spot
• 1:10:41
  that was going to be A hard task for anybody in their first year.
• 1:10:46
  Is your position coach? He did.
• 1:10:49
  He was assistant the year before.
• 1:10:51
  But first, you know what that, what you full Duty, man?
• 1:10:53
  That's crazy. You know what's funny?
• 1:10:56
  You know what's funny man? Is that That's what I love about
• 1:11:00
  this staff as they have personality.
• 1:11:02
  And we know them, I felt for the longest time in the previous
• 1:11:05
  regime, there was no connection. We didn't know him where before
• 1:11:09
  that staff, we had Billy. Hi coach cabin, you know you had
• 1:11:15
  Brian Stein, spring Bud Foster. You knew them like you knew the
• 1:11:19
  staff you knew my Gentry they weren't just household names
• 1:11:23
  with the Virginia Tech Community but also in South West Virginia
• 1:11:26
  they had commercials they had car Our ships, they had barber
• 1:11:29
  shops. They also did press conferences
• 1:11:32
  after games. So you were here from being
• 1:11:35
  more, you heard from Stein spring, you heard from them
• 1:11:37
  during the week, this staff we're hearing from your hearing
• 1:11:40
  from you saw piercing prioleau who II know very well we were
• 1:11:44
  very close. Piercing is not a social media
• 1:11:47
  guy, but now I see him posting pictures, and Northern Virginia.
• 1:11:51
  I'm here, let's go. I'm like, what Pearson really
• 1:11:54
  like, that's crazy because Pearson is a very reserved guy.
• 1:11:58
  I mean, at the same time, man, like I think when I, as I
• 1:12:02
  mentioned, you know, cheetah and These Guys, these coaches are
• 1:12:05
  all on Twitter. I will say, is it coach Boeing
• 1:12:09
  the o.c.? Yeah, I'm curious to see what
• 1:12:12
  he's about my guy. Todd Washington, who coach with
• 1:12:15
  him. Yeah, is no Todd, Todd, Todd was
• 1:12:18
  with them in Jacksonville. And Todd told me straight up.
• 1:12:21
  He said, no, I said, do give me this.
• 1:12:23
  Give me the goods. He said, nah, great guy.
• 1:12:25
  Great, man, great coach. He's going to be great for Tech
• 1:12:27
  and Todd is not Not. No, yeah, that's going.
• 1:12:30
  He doesn't paint. He's not gonna sugarcoat it.
• 1:12:46
  I'm curious to know about him as a coach.
• 1:12:48
  I'm curious to see what kind of scheme he does.
• 1:12:50
  Is he a gambler? Is he going to go for it on
• 1:12:53
  Fourth and three? Is he going to be predictable or
• 1:12:56
  is he going to be Smash Mouth? What's going to be our identity?
• 1:12:59
  Whatever it is. I just want to have an identity
• 1:13:01
  again, I mean, I feel like we are, you know, Castaway Tom
• 1:13:04
  Hanks with the volleyball. Like we just been Cast Away for
• 1:13:07
  five years, trying to figure out how to get back to the States.
• 1:13:10
  You know I'm saying? So like I didn't.
• 1:13:13
  Well, the end of the day, man. You know, go ahead.
• 1:13:17
  Go. Right.
• 1:13:18
  What was it a month ago? About a month ago?
• 1:13:21
  Yeah, we go Brian looked at Boeing scheme.
• 1:13:29
  Olympic Games. He called when he was at Penn
• 1:13:31
  State and games. He called when he was at
• 1:13:34
  Fordham. And I mean, it's a lot of heavy.
• 1:13:38
  I mean, obviously he was working either under or with a Joe
• 1:13:43
  Moorhead, or Jim, or head disciple.
• 1:13:46
  So a lot of it was Joe Moorhead offense influence, but the games
• 1:13:51
  he called, there was definitely an identity used running backs.
• 1:13:56
  I was, I was saying during That episode pretty much every game.
• 1:14:01
  I saw about three running backs, got about 10 carries so you're
• 1:14:04
  going to see running backs, getting different looks, but
• 1:14:08
  it's going to be heavy on the Run, they're going to use the
• 1:14:10
  tight end a lot in a lot of different ways.
• 1:14:13
  And then they're going to do some, some creative stuff with
• 1:14:15
  the route tree for the, for the passing game.
• 1:14:18
  I love it, man. We had so many running backs
• 1:14:21
  that there was no rhythm. I'm not going to go back down
• 1:14:24
  there but you know what, the sad part and allow me to.
• 1:14:28
  The gun is really quickly as that because I played, I used to
• 1:14:31
  feel so bad for someone to run it backs and receivers we had.
• 1:14:34
  I remember I was a big fan of Hezekiah Grimsley and I felt
• 1:14:37
  like he was underutilized, I felt like he, you know, as some
• 1:14:41
  games. He would be really good at that
• 1:14:42
  slot position and he could, you know, catch that fade route to
• 1:14:46
  50/50 ball and then he would disappear for three weeks.
• 1:14:50
  And then, you know, I would feel like, you know, we would have a
• 1:14:52
  good thing going with a running back and then he would, you
• 1:14:55
  know, have a great 23 series. And then you wouldn't see him
• 1:14:59
  the rest of the game. And then the next week, he would
• 1:15:01
  even touch the field. And I'll be like why are we use?
• 1:15:03
  I remember there was a kid. I liked him a lot.
• 1:15:05
  I do I'm sure you all remember him Wheatley Wheatley yeah yeah
• 1:15:11
  he was not no more. He dropped more to go.
• 1:15:15
  He dropped one pot pass we never saw him again and there was like
• 1:15:19
  man he dropped a ball. We never saw him again.
• 1:15:21
  I thought he had a good role going you know you got to look
• 1:15:24
  man. Like you got to give me a
• 1:15:26
  chance. I just felt like we were just
• 1:15:28
  too. It to give up on guys and then
• 1:15:29
  just felt like there was no true sense of chemistry and
• 1:15:33
  cohesiveness. It was just like, this is my
• 1:15:36
  guy, I mean, you did see it with the one kid that's playing for
• 1:15:41
  the Bears, the great running Barber kill Herbert.
• 1:15:44
  Yeah, I mean, but I mean honestly, you weren't going to
• 1:15:47
  not use him but even with him, if I want to be critical, the
• 1:15:50
  Wake Forest game. Like we got down and we stop
• 1:15:53
  giving him the ball that we gave the ball.
• 1:15:54
  We came back, it's like you don't have to run whether it's
• 1:15:57
  hidden hooker or whoever it is you don't have to run your
• 1:16:02
  quarterback 27 times but I'm excited.
• 1:16:06
  But I pulled my hair out of that Wake Forest game that that was
• 1:16:09
  the most frustrating game to watch of the Fuente era in my
• 1:16:12
  opinion. The one where we lost that wake,
• 1:16:15
  right? Yeah.
• 1:16:19
  And I remember talking to him after that game.
• 1:16:22
  What I kid you not I'm like Brian why we run it their best
• 1:16:25
  player All game and Brian just these like a lot of expletives,
• 1:16:30
  I don't know. He's like, I looked at it, we
• 1:16:32
  should have been outside Zone, get away from Boogie, but he's
• 1:16:36
  our best player. Everybody else is worse and we
• 1:16:39
  did the exact opposite. Well, I mean look, the
• 1:16:42
  Pittsburgh game. That's another one.
• 1:16:44
  This past. When I remember I was watching
• 1:16:45
  that game and Mike called me for those Mike Vick called me.
• 1:16:49
  He was like, yo, what are we doing bro?
• 1:16:51
  Hell's like, what do you mean? I said you you've been watching.
• 1:16:54
  It was like this is before the Ain't got to handle 100.
• 1:16:58
  We had three straight possessions.
• 1:17:00
  We just kept throwing the ball and throwing the ball.
• 1:17:02
  Yeah. And he was like he said, he said
• 1:17:04
  they're putting too much pressure on the quarterback.
• 1:17:08
  He was like, he was like, we need to run the ball.
• 1:17:10
  He was like you know we're just too impatient.
• 1:17:14
  I remember that the postgame presser Wednesday was talking
• 1:17:17
  about how everyone knows pit likes to stack.
• 1:17:19
  The box and Challenger receivers.
• 1:17:21
  I'm like impose your will it run the ball?
• 1:17:24
  Yeah it was windy may be imposed We'll run the ball.
• 1:17:27
  You don't have to go because we did not have a get.
• 1:17:30
  I get it that year, we beat them in Heinz Field.
• 1:17:32
  Yeah. But you had 32 best receivers in
• 1:17:35
  Virginia Tech History. Of course you are going to go
• 1:17:37
  get ice. Yeah, there you go, throw face.
• 1:17:56
  I don't want to go back there. That was it was it was some
• 1:17:58
  rough days. Some Saturdays, it's okay.
• 1:18:02
  We got to talk about it because we went through it.
• 1:18:05
  If you can't look he can't look back and reflect on those lean
• 1:18:08
  years man. And that joke, one of my big
• 1:18:12
  jokes and a couple people call me out a couple times.
• 1:18:16
  Mike young had rough into games and I'd be like Jesus.
• 1:18:20
  He's doing it for Wednesday, people.
• 1:18:23
  Like you can't say that about my I'm like, I love Mike.
• 1:18:28
  Everybody knows what I'm talking about.
• 1:18:31
  Yes, yes, yes, yes, no, no. Trying to get that that hate to
• 1:19:02
  lose mentality based on what you've seen and what you've
• 1:19:05
  heard and everything you noticing something different
• 1:19:08
  with winter workouts that we hadn't seen in the past, at
• 1:19:12
  least in the last few years. That's what I God, the more
• 1:19:16
  committed. I feel like, you know, there's a
• 1:19:17
  buy-in and not feel like from what I'm hearing and when I'm
• 1:19:21
  saying, I feel like the players feel like these coaches, know
• 1:19:23
  what they're doing. I feel like before players could
• 1:19:29
  kids, they're young, they're teenagers in their twenties but
• 1:19:32
  they still know what's going on. I feel like now it's work.
• 1:19:36
  Like they feel like okay, like I'm being challenged, I have to
• 1:19:39
  earn everything. And I mean, I mean again, I
• 1:19:42
  don't make too much of offseason work because every program in
• 1:19:45
  America thinks they're working hard right now.
• 1:19:48
  But real programs that are working hard understand when
• 1:19:51
  they are because the results are to show.
• 1:19:53
  Not just in their testing and They're in their performance.
• 1:19:57
  But it also shows when they're playing and when you see them
• 1:20:00
  dominate on the field, so I feel like there's a buying I feel
• 1:20:04
  like right now. There's been a Rejuvenation,
• 1:20:06
  there's a buy-in because of the culture that's been established
• 1:20:11
  and that's starting to build in Blacksburg, I think in previous
• 1:20:15
  years. You know, not to knock on wood,
• 1:20:20
  but for the first time ever, we're not talking about transfer
• 1:20:25
  portal. We're not talking about a DUI or
• 1:20:29
  some murder with some guy, allegedly a drag queen, you
• 1:20:34
  know, it's just, we are now dealing with football like every
• 1:20:38
  year was like a coach, and always, something always
• 1:20:42
  something a coach messing with the recruits mom.
• 1:20:45
  The SI article, and Turkey, bacon transfer portal.
• 1:20:49
  You got starters. You know, people like why is,
• 1:20:52
  why is this guy leaving? He was the leading receiver.
• 1:20:55
  He's transferred. We don't have that right now.
• 1:20:58
  Yeah, you guys, I think you had some of the bullshit story
• 1:21:03
  spread about Kuma Quitman. Like nah, man went out there and
• 1:21:07
  like, tore up Marshall. That's not a player that's out
• 1:21:11
  there. Yeah, I mean, just some of the
• 1:21:13
  shit that just was coming out. I will see you.
• 1:21:16
  Formulated like trying to trying to set an agenda, discredit.
• 1:21:22
  Yeah, they try to yeah, yeah, he's coming out.
• 1:21:25
  Yeah, that's what happened, bro. And you mentioned training
• 1:21:28
  portal since the offseason happened one.
• 1:21:33
  Yep, that's not. Usually you got a new guy in.
• 1:21:37
  Usually, you see the plethora of people go, one guy has entered
• 1:21:41
  the portals, but you know what? I love coach proper.
• 1:21:44
  One reason he was straight up today and said I expect after
• 1:21:47
  Spring football, we're going to see attrition, yeah, you know
• 1:21:53
  what? About beings.
• 1:22:26
  I'm that's Frank Beamer for, they don't know, being took guys
• 1:22:29
  from Baltimore City and Dade County.
• 1:22:32
  He took some guys that other programs could not handle and
• 1:22:35
  cultivate a culture where they left as better men and he dealt
• 1:22:38
  with adversity and controversy where y'all didn't know about
• 1:22:42
  even during the social media. Are that begin years after I
• 1:22:45
  left, they knew how to handle certain guys.
• 1:22:48
  There were guys that got in trouble or that were Rough
• 1:22:51
  Around the Edges, like, Trayvon Hill, but they were taking care
• 1:22:55
  of Of and they you knew how to communicate with them just
• 1:22:58
  because they didn't tuck their shirts in or they were from the
• 1:23:01
  hood or they were from somewhere.
• 1:23:03
  You didn't want to go to, they were still welcome, but some
• 1:23:07
  guys that they're now because they're easier to coach and they
• 1:23:10
  shouldn't be there. And that's fine because we're
• 1:23:13
  prize talking about, is he needs his guys?
• 1:23:16
  Not so much. Your affluent a guy you're a
• 1:23:18
  beamer. Got no, he needs his guys.
• 1:23:20
  I try to tell people all the time.
• 1:23:22
  Head coach. Has to have staff players,
• 1:23:28
  cleaning crew, janitorial staff. The food administrators
• 1:23:32
  everybody secretaries executive assistants everybody has to be
• 1:23:36
  trusted. They have to have his back.
• 1:23:39
  When his back is turned Beaver, had cabin.
• 1:23:41
  All coach, hi Bruce Gardens, John Berlin, Prague has to have
• 1:23:46
  players when they're out at the parties and they're doing
• 1:23:49
  anything in the offseason, he can trust them and he can rely
• 1:23:53
  on them on their feet. Cee-trust is not just when
• 1:23:55
  you're at a party or there in the girls doing room and they
• 1:23:58
  realize she says no and they're not going to go forward, it's
• 1:24:01
  also can I trust you on Third and seven when we were on the
• 1:24:04
  road in Miami where up 21 and 17, we need to stop to hold him
• 1:24:07
  to a field goal. That's what he needs.
• 1:24:10
  Not guys that want to post on IG and throw up gang gang and talk
• 1:24:14
  about I'm in the building. Throw it up for your boy because
• 1:24:17
  those guys don't show up when it's time to play.
• 1:24:19
  So he's got to get his guys that believe in the same way Lauren
• 1:24:22
  Johnson when he first got. Mountain Springs.
• 1:24:25
  He had a lot of guys that left and now he has a culture there
• 1:24:28
  where he has a standing room. Only those guys were run and
• 1:24:30
  jump off a cliff for him. That's was prized creating in
• 1:24:33
  Blacksburg. He's creating a culture and
• 1:24:35
  nutritionists party game. Yeah, some guys ain't cut out
• 1:24:38
  for it, bro. It's true.
• 1:24:42
  Yeah, Jamie. I think what he's talking about,
• 1:24:44
  he's like, you know, everybody's got a clean slate, but nothing
• 1:24:47
  is Promised. Yeah, it's been.
• 1:24:50
  Some guys has been lied to and promise, that's the problem.
• 1:24:53
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  Dash report. Now back to the episode I and we
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  are back in I'm going to ask another question.
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  Hi Dwight. Did you see the picture of the
• 1:25:48
  coach Clinic they did here in Richmond?
• 1:25:51
  Yeah man. They did one down in the 75.
• 1:25:56
  The next day you saw pictures of it there but you know, We know
• 1:26:04
  this is relationship-building, right?
• 1:26:07
  But in and they're trying to go for long-term success.
• 1:26:10
  But do you think of we talked about the Blitz and talk about
• 1:26:13
  these plans. We talk from here prior to date.
• 1:26:15
  Talk about you know our lifelines for Virginia Tech
• 1:26:20
  fans. We're here to do things for you
• 1:26:22
  if your alumni we're here to do things for you.
• 1:26:25
  The coaches in Virginia. We're here to do things for you.
• 1:26:29
  You think we can see. Is it going to take a long time
• 1:26:32
  or do you think we can see a quick turnaround in some of
• 1:26:35
  these schools to where Like the ears perk up and say, yeah, I
• 1:26:40
  know, Carolina in South Carolina and change coming at me hard,
• 1:26:44
  but I'm staying home because they're building something, you
• 1:26:49
  know, by the way, tried to my God.
• 1:26:51
  Shane, let me tell you something right now.
• 1:26:53
  Regardless of what we build Shane's always going to be tough
• 1:26:56
  to recruit against kushina's a energetic.
• 1:26:58
  He's just, that's just, he's going to be a thorn in our side
• 1:27:00
  but not to the point where we're not going to always get kids
• 1:27:03
  because of him. But we're going to have to
• 1:27:05
  outward Shan Shan. I like Shane.
• 1:27:07
  I love Shane actually, that's my guy and he's building something,
• 1:27:10
  but I still think when we play them in a few years, right?
• 1:27:13
  Yep. Yeah, that's that's going to be
• 1:27:16
  a lot of fun man that's gonna be a lot of fun.
• 1:27:18
  I think the turnaround can be quick because I think it's
• 1:27:22
  effort. I think it's just about
• 1:27:23
  relationships. I mean there's been a lot of
• 1:27:25
  damage and on and there were some teams and programs
• 1:27:28
  ostracised but I feel like when you're sincere like I'm a
• 1:27:32
  sincere person. So like if I apologize why do
• 1:27:35
  something right people believe? Me, I think if people believe,
• 1:27:38
  pride, in his staff, you can tell the efforts there, like
• 1:27:43
  even like early on there, Oscar Smith coaches felt some kind of
• 1:27:46
  way, and it was a little bit of a Twitter beef and then it all
• 1:27:48
  got squared away and you realize you didn't hear about anymore
• 1:27:51
  because he got taken care of and you're going to see a lot of
• 1:27:54
  Oscars for the players coming attack.
• 1:27:57
  I don't think, you know, I saw some tweets you know, after the
• 1:28:00
  Maryland game and I respect my followers and the people I
• 1:28:03
  follow, it's going to be a long turn around and No, it's not.
• 1:28:08
  You know what's funny and I'm not trying to say we're in the
• 1:28:11
  same situation because every program has its own Journey.
• 1:28:14
  But in it take Dabo that long once he started, you know,
• 1:28:20
  people say okay, this guy really means it.
• 1:28:22
  I mean, I know he could be, you know, people thought he was kind
• 1:28:24
  of corny and stuff, but I did need a day, he came in and, you
• 1:28:28
  know, he did what he did. I think when it comes down to it
• 1:28:33
  you when you when you're sincere and you're building something,
• 1:28:37
  And coaches, and the high school level, see it in believe because
• 1:28:39
  their coaches to, and some of them can even be coaching the
• 1:28:42
  Collegiate level, they'll believe it, and they'll let
• 1:28:45
  their players believe it. So, I don't think it's going to
• 1:28:48
  be a long as I don't foresee it being like seven years.
• 1:28:51
  Six years. I think the whole thing would
• 1:28:54
  winning. That's a different story because
• 1:28:56
  Virginia Tech's got to get depth.
• 1:28:57
  They got to get some depth on the d-line.
• 1:29:00
  I mean we always like one injury and all the sudden we got guys
• 1:29:03
  that are you know, serving Cold Stone ice cream.
• 1:29:06
  And defensive tackle that's like, why do we not have enough
• 1:29:10
  defensive tackles like, how is this college football while we
• 1:29:13
  always the only program that has a move of God from safety to D
• 1:29:17
  in what happened to? I bet.
• 1:29:20
  You know I'm saying? It's just crazy man.
• 1:29:22
  Like I don't understand it, but but we don't have six reliable D
• 1:29:26
  tackles like it just makes me his cringe is crazy.
• 1:29:31
  Like we always like yeah we're going to be hurted.
• 1:29:33
  It that serious. It come.
• 1:29:35
  Like what we went from A starter to now, we got to bring a walk
• 1:29:39
  in from Lake Braddock. I don't understand.
• 1:29:42
  Like why are we in that situation, bro?
• 1:29:44
  But I think that's the combination of attrition, not
• 1:29:48
  recruiting with a real strategy in mind understanding how to get
• 1:29:52
  people to build on, you know? Yeah.
• 1:29:56
  Leaving the recorded, the recruiting plan, the roster
• 1:30:01
  management especially after I'd say After the the 2017 2018
• 1:30:09
  class. Like you got bad real quick and
• 1:30:13
  it wasn't great to start off but he got real bad just stacking so
• 1:30:17
  many players at one position in one class.
• 1:30:20
  Like you, you know, if you take five wide receivers in one
• 1:30:24
  class, you know, two or three of them are going to transfer
• 1:30:26
  before they even get to touch the field.
• 1:30:29
  Why are you taking so many receivers, bro?
• 1:30:31
  And running backs. Running backs became a thing to.
• 1:30:33
  We had we had 111 scholarship running backs that other shit.
• 1:30:39
  Let me tell you, man. I'm until I stand.
• 1:30:41
  I could have play receiver at Tech if I was a receiver, but I
• 1:30:44
  will say it and then I'll say it now.
• 1:30:47
  Virginia Tech Will begin winning when they get the defense and
• 1:30:52
  offensive line. The way it's supposed to be, I
• 1:30:55
  promise you, it's not about being an SEC.
• 1:30:58
  You look at Georgia, you look at Clemson, you look at, even the
• 1:31:02
  programs like Pittsburgh that won, the ACC.
• 1:31:06
  You look at the teams that win consistently eat, if they went
• 1:31:08
  eight or nine games, they have an identity and they have
• 1:31:13
  players on the ELA s, which is the line of scrimmage, you'll
• 1:31:15
  all offensive. And Of line, you look at the
• 1:31:18
  Rams, you look at teams that win even in high school Phoebus,
• 1:31:23
  that one division for you. Look at Oscar Smith, they ran
• 1:31:27
  through a battlefield because they have guys, my size in high
• 1:31:32
  school, they control the line of scrimmage.
• 1:31:35
  Yep. All this, all this sexiness on.
• 1:31:38
  He can catch. He's got his shirt rolled up.
• 1:31:40
  He's got abs. Listen, that's cute for IG.
• 1:31:46
  We need some, we need some winning.
• 1:31:47
  Some record Ralph's. Surreal bigger.
• 1:31:50
  Yeah, you got to have some guys that can push the pop.
• 1:31:53
  That's why I was a big fan of that kid.
• 1:31:54
  That went to Minnesota and the Kid Rock Hoffman.
• 1:31:58
  I like him. I like, guys like that play,
• 1:32:01
  like, Jake Grove Dre Grove would dump his own mom.
• 1:32:05
  If she was in front of him at a three technique, I think if you
• 1:32:14
  can run the ball, And protect your quarterback and stop the
• 1:32:18
  run and and sacked the quarterback.
• 1:32:21
  You're gonna win a shit ton of games walk.
• 1:32:23
  Yep, that's just what else? Yeah, you said it earlier.
• 1:32:27
  I think that's why you're excited about Rudolph.
• 1:32:29
  He gives you that Vibe of JB Grimes.
• 1:32:32
  But then you look at his Wisconsin teams, all Americans,
• 1:32:35
  getting drafted, nasty, that nasty, they're not pretty
• 1:32:40
  blocking that. You're trying to mall someone.
• 1:32:44
  Yes and no one. JC's mentality on the defensive
• 1:32:48
  line and how he recruits. I mean can we have death row?
• 1:32:51
  2022 can death row it can we do that?
• 1:32:58
  Not at JC. Price is reunited with pride,
• 1:33:01
  that's another you just drop right there.
• 1:33:03
  Kurt Watch, What Happens, watch what?
• 1:33:06
  See again the line and Old Line. Look at all the successful teams
• 1:33:11
  in the Big Ten and the ACC and the SEC even In the meac, even
• 1:33:17
  in a small conference as you've got to have the o-line d-line
• 1:33:21
  death. And again, like crying just
• 1:33:24
  said, at the end of the day, man, you got to be able to
• 1:33:26
  protect your quarterback and you got to be able to get a third in
• 1:33:28
  one on the goal line. You got to be able to move like
• 1:33:32
  a lot of times we were just too cute.
• 1:33:34
  We didn't have any physical like you had it at moments like we
• 1:33:38
  have y it to why. It was one of my all-time
• 1:33:40
  favorites. Why?
• 1:33:42
  I tell her was nasty. Why I tell her.
• 1:33:45
  You see what he's doing? NFL, he make it highlights.
• 1:33:48
  There's a guard in the NFL because he has people in my
• 1:33:54
  until I met him in high esteem. I'm gonna post a picture.
• 1:33:56
  If I don't forget, he was at one of my football camps and he was
• 1:33:59
  a UVA lean, and he asked me about tech because he was
• 1:34:03
  spiritual well, he is spiritual and he, you know, he really
• 1:34:06
  liked Mike London. He said, you know, I like the
• 1:34:08
  fact he's a man of faith. And I said, no, my London is a
• 1:34:11
  great guy, and he asked me about Beamer.
• 1:34:14
  I said, Beamer is very spiritual.
• 1:34:15
  He's Afraid to he was like really I said he just not going
• 1:34:19
  to try to sell you about it because you know, you have your
• 1:34:21
  own, your own walk and you know about a month later, he
• 1:34:24
  committed to Tech and I told people then I was like, we just
• 1:34:28
  got ourself a steal because, you know, he was projected as a d
• 1:34:30
  lineman, but he put on so much weight.
• 1:34:32
  He got so strong, man. He was a monster, a toll on.
• 1:34:36
  I'm not surprised how well he's doing NFL man, and he's one of
• 1:34:39
  my favorite people. You also want them 157.
• 1:34:43
  So why I tell her why I tell her, but you got to have Guys
• 1:34:46
  like that. And it guess what?
• 1:34:47
  Guys, he's from Bilton, which is up here in Northern Virginia.
• 1:34:52
  He went to Liberty High School. You know, again, I mean it's not
• 1:34:55
  that hard and again, that's fine.
• 1:34:57
  It's cool. That every year puts out, a lot
• 1:34:59
  of talent, but you don't need seven, guys.
• 1:35:02
  You just need that one guy that fits your program.
• 1:35:03
  That's also instead guy. So, when they have another wire
• 1:35:06
  teller, they want to be part of that Legacy.
• 1:35:09
  No, I'm saying like Legacy, believe it or not.
• 1:35:11
  It's still important to guys in today's generation.
• 1:35:14
  They see what's going on leg. These very important they want
• 1:35:18
  to be. That's one reason why Ohio state
• 1:35:20
  is always good. Because there's a legacy and the
• 1:35:23
  culture there. You want to be a part of believe
• 1:35:25
  it or not right now, Mike young and you got to give Buzz
• 1:35:28
  Williams from credit to there's a legacy.
• 1:35:30
  And there's the expectation with the Virginia Tech basketball
• 1:35:33
  program. Now where we expect them to go
• 1:35:35
  to the tournament and now they did not.
• 1:35:37
  They got that guy from DeMatha it's going to be watch watch
• 1:35:41
  watch that recruiting class. We're on the verge of stealing
• 1:35:47
  one more kid in the like top 150.
• 1:35:50
  And you talking about rice from DeMatha.
• 1:35:52
  I mean, it's built. Can I say something real quick?
• 1:35:55
  The white said I drop you son. Will you young hockey fans out
• 1:35:58
  there? When I say death road 95, JC
• 1:36:02
  prize Cornell brown, paint Coleman, that was the defensive
• 1:36:06
  line that eight people, that eight people.
• 1:36:10
  When I say, let's bring death, only 22, that's what I'm think.
• 1:36:14
  We're We'll see a lot of dogs on that line.
• 1:36:19
  Yes. Let me ask this, we see pride
• 1:36:23
  and man, the guys everywhere. He's out, wishing the wrestling
• 1:36:26
  team, good luck. As they leave for Nationals,
• 1:36:29
  he's out with the women's basketball program.
• 1:36:31
  He's going to the games, he's at restaurants in Blacksburg, he's
• 1:36:36
  making it known. How do you like, the way in
• 1:36:41
  that? It's not only the team but
• 1:36:44
  himself, and his staff are just promoting Not only the school,
• 1:36:48
  but just the community. I mean, you know, you see them
• 1:36:52
  going to someplace. Like, you know, you talk about
• 1:36:54
  cheetah. He goes up at what in the pka's
• 1:36:57
  was a PK's, are Sharkey's. Sharkey's, one turkeys.
• 1:37:00
  Yeah. Aren't you talking?
• 1:37:02
  This is how I like my wings and they make it four.
• 1:37:06
  How's that? How's that?
• 1:37:08
  Come on like to you guys because I just think it's just how I was
• 1:37:14
  supposed to be man. I think if you're going to be
• 1:37:16
  somewhere like Virginia Tech's my second home, I'm a 757 guy.
• 1:37:19
  Like I come from a very Urban environment.
• 1:37:22
  Like, you know, I went to games, whatever metal detectors, you
• 1:37:25
  know, I grew up with people that sold drugs that, you know, I
• 1:37:28
  knew guys named a day and fruit loop and guys named headache.
• 1:37:32
  I mean, I went, you know, but I love Southwest Virginia because
• 1:37:35
  of a genius Tech also to add to that at the end of the day, I
• 1:37:41
  think it goes back to to my statement about 20 minutes ago
• 1:37:43
  about branding. I think, you know, when you
• 1:37:46
  really care about your community and your culture, it matters to
• 1:37:50
  you. So your coaches stay late, they
• 1:37:51
  stay an hour, two hours late, they stay up and make sure a
• 1:37:56
  mother knows her. Son is taking care of it matters
• 1:37:58
  to them. It's not like I didn't, I wasn't
• 1:38:02
  living in Tech the last six years but how many commercials
• 1:38:06
  that point they had how many restaurants in the, you know how
• 1:38:08
  many bars and grills? They have?
• 1:38:09
  How many contracts we have with deal?
• 1:38:12
  Ships. How many guys said?
• 1:38:14
  Oh yeah, I talked to Coach Fuente.
• 1:38:15
  I was up in lows and we had a great conversation about this
• 1:38:18
  upcoming season. How many people felt like, you
• 1:38:21
  know, they knew Brad cornelison? You know how many people really
• 1:38:24
  feel like they knew both Davidson like those guys were
• 1:38:27
  there to coach and go home. There was no connected, there
• 1:38:31
  was no social connectedness and me.
• 1:38:35
  How many guys did you know? We're visiting hospitals and
• 1:38:38
  talking to kids at Children's Hospital's, you know, like If
• 1:38:42
  you're not a mess in the community, it's just a job.
• 1:38:46
  And if it's a job, then it's just a paycheck.
• 1:38:49
  And if it's just a paycheck, is just something you going to do
• 1:38:51
  to get your paycheck. It doesn't matter to you, like
• 1:38:54
  the best quote, which pissed me off, almost to my TV through the
• 1:38:57
  window. Was we lost the Kentucky?
• 1:39:00
  Again, we should have won by 20 and they were like, sorry about
• 1:39:03
  your loss coach. He said nobody died bro.
• 1:39:08
  What you know, It's got its got a matter.
• 1:39:13
  I mean it's a it's a bowl game and yet but it's got to matter
• 1:39:17
  because when you do that, your players see that your players,
• 1:39:21
  see that? All right, so, wewe just here to
• 1:39:24
  get swag and get the university. A couple extra bones at the end
• 1:39:27
  of the year they were going about our business Salman
• 1:39:30
  gentlemen. You understand right?
• 1:39:31
  Be gentlemen, I lost the temple. In 1998, we were 14th in the
• 1:39:36
  nation. Six teams ahead of us laws ESPN
• 1:39:39
  to this day and even Sports Illustrated race.
• 1:39:41
  It was one of In the biggest upsets in college football,
• 1:39:44
  there's pictures of me in the Collegiate times.
• 1:39:47
  I sat on the bench beside Clemson, Clemson transfer Lamont
• 1:39:50
  Piggies. I even going to lock my
• 1:39:53
  Saturday, with tears, in my eyes, we gave up and we were, we
• 1:39:56
  were we were 35 Point favorites. We were, we were up 17 and
• 1:40:01
  nothing. We lost the game on homecoming.
• 1:40:03
  My senior year, that was in 1998.
• 1:40:05
  And that still bothers me now. That's 1998.
• 1:40:10
  It is 2022. And that still bothers me?
• 1:40:13
  Now we lost in North Carolina. They should have been in the
• 1:40:16
  Gator Bowl. We should have been there.
• 1:40:18
  We were 7 and 4 S in the Big East.
• 1:40:20
  They were 10 and 21, and they got screwed because they target
• 1:40:23
  flowing. Stay in Florida State, when the
• 1:40:25
  ACC and got the tiebreaker they had 10 first and second round as
• 1:40:29
  every newsie, a cube on volume holiday.
• 1:40:31
  Dre blah. Dion dire, they'd be a 42 23.
• 1:40:37
  And that was one of the lowest points in my college career and
• 1:40:40
  I still remember that. That was in 1997.
• 1:40:43
  You think, Tyrod, Taylor doesn't remember losing to Boise State
• 1:40:48
  and he just got paid. Shout out the Tyrod Taylor but I
• 1:40:51
  did it today. Science.
• 1:40:53
  Yeah, for my children. That's what you have to have to
• 1:41:33
  win games. And I think when you're to talk
• 1:41:35
  to the wrestling team and you're going to the women's basketball
• 1:41:38
  to Kenny Brooks men and women's basketball team and God, he is
• 1:41:41
  doing a great job. Kenny Brooks man doing a great
• 1:41:44
  job, but when you go and show love those same people are going
• 1:41:48
  to cheer for you and it creates a culture.
• 1:41:51
  The family atmosphere, it was there.
• 1:41:53
  When when Beamer was there and Vani Vani was the female
• 1:41:58
  basketball coach, when the Women's Basketball team was
• 1:42:01
  really, really good at good now, but I mean, she was there and,
• 1:42:04
  you know, she, I think she's The job in Purdue, whatever.
• 1:42:07
  But the point I'm getting at is when it coaches are together and
• 1:42:10
  they all are buying in and the wrestling team is like, damn.
• 1:42:14
  This guy just came to wish us luck and the football team
• 1:42:17
  behind us. It just creates a culture and
• 1:42:20
  then you start to see all the programs when and they, you
• 1:42:23
  know, that's that's you should get in high school, right, and
• 1:42:27
  basketball. Team is good, then, the track
• 1:42:29
  team is good and the football team is good.
• 1:42:31
  And some of those guys play on the other teams, it's like man
• 1:42:34
  said to such high school is always good because there's a
• 1:42:36
  culture there, right? The expectation, the foundation
• 1:42:40
  is an established and lay down. So I love what he's about man,
• 1:42:44
  and I'm going to build a radio show tomorrow morning, I'm on
• 1:42:46
  after him on big tall and big dog sports radio.
• 1:42:49
  I'm on at 8:35 priors on there before me.
• 1:42:52
  So I'll get, I mean I won't be on there with him, but I'll be
• 1:42:57
  listening to him before. I jump on I shout out big dog.
• 1:43:00
  Talk radio, what Radford right? Yeah, Big Dog Sports Radio.
• 1:43:05
  Hmm. Yes, the white tomorrow at
• 1:43:07
  eight, thirty five in the morning.
• 1:43:10
  All right. We'll say you know, the big
• 1:43:13
  thing I know we talked about a little bit Indians before you
• 1:43:17
  came on. How pumped are you about these
• 1:43:19
  open practices coming back. Long overdue, bro.
• 1:43:23
  Long overdue. I mean I used to go there I saw,
• 1:43:26
  I'm like I'm like Kurt, I got kids that play sports.
• 1:43:29
  I got three children a daughter who's a seeing you so I can't
• 1:43:34
  jump in the Whip and drive down there anymore, drive up there,
• 1:43:36
  whatever. But I mean just being able to go
• 1:43:40
  and no, I can go and you know, Ben and I can come on the field
• 1:43:44
  and be a part of that or watching from the stands.
• 1:43:46
  That's how it's supposed to be right?
• 1:43:48
  That's, I was so jealous of the other teams that had that Like I
• 1:43:52
  never understood what the secret was about the discretion, when
• 1:43:55
  we were averaging 19 points per game.
• 1:43:58
  I didn't understand like what are you hiding?
• 1:44:00
  I know what you're going to run every down?
• 1:44:03
  I didn't understand. I didn't understand it.
• 1:44:06
  I didn't understand it because like, I didn't even say it's
• 1:44:10
  football, don't make it out to be trigonometry, man, like it's
• 1:44:14
  football. So I didn't get to the secrecy,
• 1:44:17
  but I just think it just it's all about just creating that
• 1:44:21
  culture. I know, I know, I keep saying
• 1:44:23
  that word but I just feel like that's what it's all about.
• 1:44:26
  I think it's a great move. Nothing also to those kids,
• 1:44:35
  freshman's Juniors. Sophomores who last year with
• 1:44:39
  that person experience at Lane Stadium.
• 1:44:41
  It's like you want to encourage like it's going to be like at
• 1:44:43
  one o'clock on a Saturday. It's going to be Saturday, looks
• 1:44:46
  to be like 75, go out there. Go to go to a lot one.
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  You don't get lot, one until you get really rich.
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  Go to lot when you have a blast, go in the stadium, and then you
• 1:44:59
  talk. About with the kids.
• 1:45:02
  On the field, it's the energy right?
• 1:45:05
  You you see people showing up want to watch you play and
• 1:45:08
  cheering you on. Is that positive vibe?
• 1:45:11
  That just comes through like this is what I came here for.
• 1:45:15
  Yeah, yeah, please Rock. I came here to be supported in
• 1:45:21
  not only these kids but these adults are coming out on
• 1:45:23
  Saturday afternoon to just sit and watch me practice and give
• 1:45:27
  their support and show their love for me that do so. so far
• 1:45:33
  because when you are playing BC in September, And maybe it's a
• 1:45:39
  tight game and, you know, it, you're grinding to get to that
• 1:45:43
  last piece that you scrape your knuckles to win the game.
• 1:45:47
  You look at the fans and you go back to that day in March,
• 1:45:50
  right? Remember them sitting there
• 1:45:53
  cheering us, I don't want to lose because I want them to
• 1:45:56
  drive out the stadium. Tonight is happy as they can be.
• 1:46:01
  Let's talk about this too. I mean we got you know, we're
• 1:46:04
  used to hosting those recruits. Even on spring game, we got a
• 1:46:09
  good number of recruits showing up for this open, practice this
• 1:46:11
  weekend and I think that that's going to be some of the, I think
• 1:46:15
  we will see some of the first fireworks for the twenty.
• 1:46:17
  Three classes we can hopefully will never let me, let me, let
• 1:46:20
  me just add onto that. Be identity day.
• 1:46:23
  I know you saw this podcast off, you guys were talking about the
• 1:46:26
  great win over Duke and Carolina.
• 1:46:28
  You know, I get why everybody hates Duke or you love them,
• 1:46:34
  mostly hate them and then same thing with Carolina.
• 1:46:37
  But you know what they have they have a lot of bandwagon fans and
• 1:46:40
  Virginia Tech used to have a lot of bandwagon fans because we
• 1:46:44
  were Virginia's team like we were the team, the football team
• 1:46:48
  because we don't have a protein so everybody was rocking with
• 1:46:51
  tech. Even before Enter Sandman and
• 1:46:53
  all that it was like, oh you ever been to a tech game and we
• 1:46:56
  took over, if we took our FedEx feel so like Tech had a lot of
• 1:47:00
  fans that don't have one credit from Virginia Tech that just
• 1:47:04
  love Tech because like, you know, Michael Vick and all these
• 1:47:08
  other players that went there Lisa.
• 1:47:11
  So, my point being is part of what makes your program, great,
• 1:47:16
  is the fact that you become such a national brand, the fact that
• 1:47:20
  Duke is global the fact that That people hate them because
• 1:47:23
  they win so much. They're relevant, you get tired
• 1:47:26
  of everybody talking about how great they are, but that's what
• 1:47:29
  you want for Tech Sports. You want that for.
• 1:47:32
  I want bandwagon fans. I want people to say, I hate
• 1:47:35
  Virginia Tech. Why?
• 1:47:36
  Because you guys always win, I want that, I want that, I want
• 1:47:41
  reproofs the commit because of the culture.
• 1:47:44
  You want open practices, you want a big barbecue.
• 1:47:47
  You want guys, in Chicago, where the Virginia Tech hoodies you
• 1:47:51
  with that? Nah man, but I saw them play
• 1:47:54
  against Nebraska. They had that great wind.
• 1:47:56
  Danny Coale some dude, caught the ball and tie rod.
• 1:47:59
  Now he's with the Giants. You want conversations, like
• 1:48:01
  that? Yep, I love in the 90's and
• 1:48:04
  2000's when we had, you know, people come to you.
• 1:48:07
  I don't like Tech. They play nasty on D.
• 1:48:09
  Yeah, we supposed to that's what we're about to open practices.
• 1:48:18
  I want to be relevant. I hate Being irrelevant.
• 1:48:23
  When like, I joked with no one would want someone time.
• 1:48:26
  He was interviewing me for years ago, and we were just talking
• 1:48:30
  because Norwood is from down my way.
• 1:48:32
  He covered me in high school and even some in college.
• 1:48:35
  And I said, no, I'm, you know, what said he was doing the
• 1:48:39
  preview for the UVA Tech game? I said, man, outside of
• 1:48:44
  Blacksburg and Southwest Virginia in Charlottesville.
• 1:48:47
  Nobody cares about this game you guys to five and six.
• 1:48:51
  Probably 16s playing on ESPN. I said, I want us to be ranked
• 1:48:58
  and relevant, I miss, when we were dark horse to win a
• 1:49:01
  National Championship, I know the young fans don't realize
• 1:49:04
  this, but there were, there was back in the day when Mark made
• 1:49:08
  and and Lou Holtz. You Step Beyond College GameDay
• 1:49:12
  and they would pick their Dark Horses for national championship
• 1:49:16
  teams. So, they say, who you have, who
• 1:49:18
  she look out for and they'd be like, watch out for, Austin and
• 1:49:22
  I tell you what, watch out for Virginia Tech and you'd be like,
• 1:49:25
  every year Tech was a dark horse.
• 1:49:28
  Now it's, I can't believe Ohio State lost to them.
• 1:49:33
  Yeah. I don't like that.
• 1:49:34
  It's embarrassing. Now, we will talk horse to maybe
• 1:49:38
  when the coastal. All right, so I mean yeah, I
• 1:49:44
  didn't mean to go off on that, man.
• 1:49:51
  A chance to be relative with recruits.
• 1:49:53
  It makes us, it makes me feel like, you know, we can get some
• 1:49:58
  the fact that prize personable and has a personality.
• 1:50:01
  The fact that he cares and he's not afraid to get emotional and
• 1:50:04
  he's at, you know, he on the call we had with the alumni.
• 1:50:09
  He was talking about the Richmond coaching Clinic, how
• 1:50:13
  you VA coaches were there and they just showed up and how Tech
• 1:50:16
  coaches came and they had two balloons and they had a table
• 1:50:20
  and they had the Commonwealth cup.
• 1:50:21
  There and all of that. And people took notice like wow,
• 1:50:24
  these guys really can't wear the UVA coaches came.
• 1:50:27
  They just had their clipboards and planners, right?
• 1:50:30
  They weren't there. Tech is day, gets it.
• 1:50:33
  It's the little things like that, right?
• 1:50:35
  Just so it's like if I came to your house.
• 1:50:37
  Now, I know you're married and your wife has a certain one.
• 1:50:40
  I go and stop by the grocery store and make sure I get that
• 1:50:43
  wine for her. You know I'm saying that's the
• 1:50:45
  respect, it's the respecting, the coaches in your product.
• 1:50:50
  100%. It's again, it's like a they
• 1:50:53
  have a strategy. It isn't just showing don't do
• 1:50:56
  it. Just it isn't just show up to
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  phoebius when they've got a high for star or you know, or let's
• 1:51:03
  go on the 75. It's a big year for them and
• 1:51:05
  let's stay in Richmond. It's like, no, our marketing
• 1:51:08
  strategy is this is our state, and then, obviously, you've
• 1:51:12
  heard it. And I'm sure you've heard it on
• 1:51:14
  the zoom calls with, you know, your brethren there.
• 1:51:17
  The six hour, radius, if you can drive to check, We want you, and
• 1:51:21
  we start talking about that 6i radius.
• 1:51:23
  George has a name, South Carolina, Tennessee, Ohio,
• 1:51:27
  Pennsylvania, the DMV. I mean, that's a in and I always
• 1:51:34
  say in another, you can back me up.
• 1:51:37
  A lot of people always think those early teens.
• 1:51:40
  He was nothing but Virginia kids, I'm a Virginia kids.
• 1:51:43
  That's what we got to always. Do you know what George del rico
• 1:51:48
  here? Some from South Carolina Those
• 1:51:51
  teams it was a lot of Virginia kids you were one of them JC
• 1:51:55
  price for mayor now is that footprint it 93 we got good kids
• 1:52:03
  started coming from Maryland and Pennsylvania, Kevin Jones?
• 1:52:08
  It's like if we can get some talented all, get to talent in
• 1:52:12
  Virginia. Find the dogs, get the super
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  talented. Hi guys.
• 1:52:19
  But then you start going down and take a couple from Carolina,
• 1:52:24
  Georgia. The next thing, you know, the
• 1:52:26
  footprints back and it's where it was where these benefits and
• 1:52:30
  its balance the way it needs to where you still got your
• 1:52:33
  foundation in Virginia. Yes, but but, but you're hitting
• 1:52:37
  the talent that works for what you do and matches your culture
• 1:52:41
  from some of those other areas in that footprint, what you're
• 1:52:45
  describing is what I said, you know, a while back in this
• 1:52:48
  episode Of be more left you, the blueprint.
• 1:52:52
  All you had to do was build on it because Maryland DC and
• 1:52:56
  people like that. They there's a blueprint where
• 1:53:01
  they want to be a part of because you know Virginia Tech
• 1:53:04
  is a great school to go to because they're not going to go
• 1:53:06
  to Maryland and many times they're not going to go to UVA.
• 1:53:11
  Let's say where they want to go to UB.
• 1:53:12
  I'm not taking shots of UV on your show, I'm just saying that
• 1:53:14
  they needed a like, Virginia Tech if they could just win and
• 1:53:19
  Recruit the way they're doing, you're going to get the right
• 1:53:21
  kids, and on top of it, I'm always been a Virginia guy.
• 1:53:25
  But I've said numerous times on Twitter, get back to getting to
• 1:53:29
  Florida, guys, get back to getting those guys.
• 1:53:32
  The Lauren Johnson's the Philip Summers Anthony midgets to the
• 1:53:37
  Brandon Flowers. The what's the corner back?
• 1:53:40
  There was so smooth. He had not interceptions one
• 1:53:43
  year. He went to the Giants.
• 1:53:45
  He j.r. J.R on holds Leo.
• 1:53:48
  How ya? Holdin Good news, guys.
• 1:53:50
  You got to get the daddy Nicholas's and the Florida guys,
• 1:53:54
  man, you just gotta get him. And those guys, those guys were
• 1:53:57
  sick, Florida was great to Virginia Tech and we just kind
• 1:54:00
  of stopped. And I'm like, man, you know, and
• 1:54:03
  South Carolina, has a rich history and they love.
• 1:54:08
  They've done great. They don't great job with what
• 1:54:12
  doing? Well at Virginia Tech as you
• 1:54:13
  mentioned and again, Maryland always has Ballers.
• 1:54:17
  It's a basketball state at the same.
• 1:54:19
  Time. But a lot of football Talent is
• 1:54:21
  in Maryland, lot of football, Talent absolutely.i.
• 1:54:25
  Couple more questions. Because as usual to like this,
• 1:54:28
  like last year when you jump on with us, it's not an hour
• 1:54:31
  episode. It's not 75 now.
• 1:54:38
  We love it, love it. Hi.
• 1:54:50
  You're one. What you measuring stick?
• 1:54:53
  What do you think? You know field, not only on the
• 1:54:57
  field wins and losses but on the recruiting Trail.
• 1:55:00
  What's what are you looking for pruning?
• 1:55:03
  I'm definitely confident. I'm recruiting.
• 1:55:06
  I'm very happy about. I feel like that's gonna really
• 1:55:09
  take off. I feel like recruiting is going
• 1:55:11
  to be. I think you guys can be like,
• 1:55:12
  wow, we actually got him not maybe y'all too because y'all
• 1:55:16
  are pretty well in tune. But, you know, someone in the
• 1:55:18
  cynics cynics and naysayers. Sayers butt.
• 1:55:24
  The on the field. I feel like we're going to have
• 1:55:27
  a solid season, I feel like a solid season meaning, you know,
• 1:55:33
  it could be good, but we can actually get some momentum and
• 1:55:35
  take off. There is not a team in the
• 1:55:38
  coastal, I would fear. I respect everybody, Irish, I
• 1:55:43
  never, you really won't hear ever see me or hear me taking
• 1:55:47
  shots at UVA? Because we always beat them, but
• 1:55:52
  I feel like UVA bra Go was a major laws, the timing wasn't
• 1:55:56
  great. I like Elliott for them.
• 1:55:59
  I know they bring back Armstrong.
• 1:56:02
  Who is a phenomenal talent. I like him a lot.
• 1:56:05
  I just feel like they lost a lot of weapons and I feel like when
• 1:56:07
  you go through a change like that, that wasn't smooth, it was
• 1:56:10
  kind of controversial. I think they're going to be in
• 1:56:12
  the mix. They have a favorable schedule,
• 1:56:15
  but at the same time I like, I like us against UVA.
• 1:56:18
  I think Caroline's going to take a step back.
• 1:56:20
  I think they're not criticize enough because They have a lot
• 1:56:24
  of talent and they've underachieved, I don't care
• 1:56:27
  about what they lost. Shout out to my guys, dad's new.
• 1:56:30
  Some that's family right there for me, but dads and the other
• 1:56:34
  guys in the running back, they lost that was a huge loss for
• 1:56:37
  them but they still had a lot of players and I feel like they get
• 1:56:42
  a pass because it's Carolina but they should have been better.
• 1:56:46
  And I think the quarterback they lost Sam.
• 1:56:49
  The I just I don't I don't I don't know if you replace him
• 1:56:53
  over. A dead cat guy was good.
• 1:56:55
  He was really good with quarterback play.
• 1:56:58
  If you have a great running game around you and experience
• 1:57:01
  receive what you can overcome that I'm not sure what Caroline
• 1:57:04
  is Tough Enough. I'm not sure what Caroline is
• 1:57:06
  Tough Enough. Yeah.
• 1:57:08
  I feel like, I feel like they they look good.
• 1:57:11
  I feel like they're pretty, they're sexy but I think when
• 1:57:13
  the game gets grimy and goody I don't I don't trust him.
• 1:57:17
  Pittsburgh is Tough Enough and we got to go up there so I don't
• 1:57:21
  trust us there yet. Maybe Maybe one day, you know it
• 1:57:25
  reminds me of how I was and how we've been we go to Syracuse but
• 1:57:29
  I mean I don't have the schedule in front of me but I feel like
• 1:57:32
  the out of conference games are winnable.
• 1:57:34
  I feel like we can get between seven and eight wins.
• 1:57:38
  Yep. But I will say this.
• 1:57:40
  I think the ceiling you when you guys you guys gamble over and
• 1:57:43
  under I think we can go over I just got to make sure I
• 1:57:46
  quarterback playing that's the key.
• 1:57:48
  I think running game and the old lines going to be good enough to
• 1:57:51
  win. We got to get a quarterback.
• 1:57:53
  I Was named bromine stir. He was tough right?
• 1:57:57
  He was tough. He played hard.
• 1:57:59
  He I mean he looked like he was out there getting hit like
• 1:58:01
  Raggedy Ann and Andy, I mean it wasn't okay, just snuck around
• 1:58:06
  to me and yeah, I had a lot of respect for that kid man.
• 1:58:09
  I thought he played his his tail off against UVA.
• 1:58:13
  I feel like he competed, I used to look at him but I felt like
• 1:58:17
  he was putting some very difficult situations.
• 1:58:20
  Have a lot of respect for him. I hope he hears this or somebody
• 1:58:23
  tells him. And I just appreciate what he
• 1:58:25
  did for Virginia Tech because I felt like he was putting some
• 1:58:28
  really difficult situations schematically.
• 1:58:31
  And I felt like, at times, they didn't utilize him, the way he
• 1:58:35
  should have been utilized, he's not a do pastor this that,
• 1:58:38
  whatever, but he plays that University, he played hard and
• 1:58:42
  the two years he was at Tech, but if we got to get a
• 1:58:44
  quarterback, we got to get a quarterback.
• 1:58:46
  We've left too many too many good quarterbacks that we can
• 1:58:50
  win with go. We can get the quarterback
• 1:58:51
  position solidified. I'll tell you this defense is
• 1:58:54
  going to be physical. The difference is going to play,
• 1:58:58
  but I mean again Miami is Miami. Virginia Tech will always play
• 1:59:02
  Miami tough because of the history of the Rivalry.
• 1:59:04
  So that's a, that's a Pick'em. But the rest of the coastal, I
• 1:59:08
  mean, you're in a good position because it's anybody's Division
• 1:59:11
  and win. I don't really care for that
• 1:59:13
  whole, you know, that little will they have on ESPN The Wheel
• 1:59:17
  of Destiny, and they spend the wheel, and I think that's corny.
• 1:59:20
  I like it when a team dominates, I hope it's us.
• 1:59:23
  I Eat that whole guess who wanted this year?
• 1:59:25
  I hate that. I think it's stupid and corny.
• 1:59:29
  But, you know, you got to give you a ship, you got to get stuff
• 1:59:31
  that's going on so people can talk about it.
• 1:59:33
  I think Tech can win it. This is a good time for pride
• 1:59:36
  and staff because everybody is kind of in transition, the
• 1:59:39
  Coastal Carolina, lost the quarterback.
• 1:59:42
  Miami is they got a new, you know, trying to figure it out.
• 1:59:45
  They got talent but Miami is always going to have town.
• 1:59:48
  Oh always always, you talked about 10, they lost their That
• 1:59:53
  they lost their oh shit. No.
• 2:00:16
  They were set back decades with that offense is going to take
• 2:00:20
  see if that's a program. You asked me on your show that's
• 2:00:23
  the program is going to take a long time to rebuild because
• 2:00:26
  Georgia Tech Was in that triple option.
• 2:00:29
  Paul Johnson for years, their program was built on undersized
• 2:00:34
  lineman and it was a very prehistoric Antiquated offense.
• 2:00:37
  It work for them, but you got to get a coach plus, that's a tough
• 2:00:40
  place to recruit to, because Georgia runs that state.
• 2:00:44
  So we record against Georgia, and Alabama.
• 2:00:47
  And I reckon, yeah, you. And it's just This is not back
• 2:00:58
  in the day when they had Patrick swimming.
• 2:01:00
  So with all that being said, like you mentioned, Duke is
• 2:01:03
  terrible. God bless them.
• 2:01:06
  You know cutcliffe did a great job but it's just tough to win
• 2:01:08
  there and I felt like they kind of let him stay a little bit too
• 2:01:11
  long teca catch. If they can catch fire if they
• 2:01:15
  if they come out and set the tone again, Saudi I know ODU is
• 2:01:18
  not the measuring stick. What I'm saying is I've been in
• 2:01:21
  and I've been in the game a long time.
• 2:01:22
  I've been around the game a long time, A lot of times just your
• 2:01:25
  mentality, and if your play is believed in by in, Good
• 2:01:28
  quarterback play. And I don't mean they need a guy
• 2:01:30
  like tie rod or Jim drunken religious.
• 2:01:33
  Basically somebody that can manage the game, not turn the
• 2:01:36
  ball over and play good offense and have an identity.
• 2:01:39
  They can win the coastal. I know that sounds crazy, but I
• 2:01:45
  just you guys, you would have to show me a team.
• 2:01:48
  I'm supposed to be afraid of and the coastal.
• 2:01:50
  Yeah, now I will say this respect to UVA, they have a
• 2:01:54
  quarterback. They do Armstrong can Play.
• 2:01:58
  But, at the same time, you know, they lost some very good players
• 2:02:02
  in the portal, and they also lost a lot of players to the
• 2:02:06
  graduation, and also to the NFL, and that's so, very was awful.
• 2:02:11
  Yes, yes, yes. Oh, and and I'll say, this is a
• 2:02:19
  hokie podcast. But I felt like, That was Bronco
• 2:02:27
  was a big loss. I just feel like that was a big
• 2:02:31
  loss. I feel like Elias a good coach
• 2:02:32
  and he can win there but he's got established himself as a
• 2:02:35
  head coach. He was an assistant at Clemson
• 2:02:37
  the same way prize got to do the same thing, but I just feel
• 2:02:40
  like, you know, when you come in the way it came in and he had
• 2:02:44
  you know like I think they're going to win some games with him
• 2:02:46
  but I just feel like You know, I told this to my guy, my talk is
• 2:02:50
  if I was Armstrong, I would have left.
• 2:02:53
  I thought he I would have left the numbers.
• 2:02:56
  He put up the records, he broke. You just don't do that
• 2:03:00
  consecutive years. It's tough.
• 2:03:03
  There's more film on you, you know, you pretty much got his
• 2:03:06
  team, the old, the old line. You know, we talked about that.
• 2:03:10
  So it's going to be, it's going to be a fun, fun fall.
• 2:03:14
  I can't. When you guys got me in football
• 2:03:16
  mode right now, even though it's March Madness, Right, that's
• 2:03:18
  right, that's right. That's like, you know,
• 2:04:04
  I wasn't driving three and a half hours to see us, put up 22
• 2:04:08
  points against a team from, you know, Wyoming.
• 2:04:11
  I just I just was, I felt you know, man like Your boy man was
• 2:04:19
  taken away. Something I love and I love
• 2:04:22
  like, I love my family. Like you can't mess with my
• 2:04:24
  school, you can't mess with. It's my favorite team and like I
• 2:04:27
  don't have a favorite NFL NBA team.
• 2:04:30
  So like, you know when when Tech wins man, like the sun shines
• 2:04:35
  brighter man is fresher. You know, the food taste better.
• 2:04:38
  You know, I mean like everything is better.
• 2:04:40
  I get to get to throw this on, I walk with my chest out, I'm
• 2:04:44
  going everywhere. Like oh yeah, you saw the game,
• 2:04:47
  go home. You don't say it like Like I, I
• 2:04:52
  will be back. Now, it's easy for me.
• 2:04:53
  I hear people say, man. We don't play any, I don't even
• 2:04:56
  kid. We could be playing Centerville
• 2:04:57
  jumping jacks, Jerusalem, Jerusalem.
• 2:05:00
  We can be playing the Jerusalem, Nighthawks, it doesn't matter,
• 2:05:04
  II. Go for the experience, I go to
• 2:05:07
  the as a bookstore to get me a new key chain, that had some
• 2:05:11
  tech gear. I go to see fans go crazy and
• 2:05:15
  cuss curse their ref out, you know?
• 2:05:17
  So like If the experience, I didn't want to go back my last
• 2:05:22
  egg, a, my last text game. I sat in a rainstorm with my
• 2:05:27
  wife and kids on New Year's Eve, and I wash us.
• 2:05:31
  Choke against Cincinnati. Again, we in the Cincinnati was
• 2:05:34
  really good to you. They were attending when team,
• 2:05:36
  they had a bunch of upperclassmen and we were out
• 2:05:40
  playing them. We were, we were down there, and
• 2:05:44
  we had just got a turnover and we fumbled on the goal line,
• 2:05:47
  they came back Back and went and the tech team played hard but I
• 2:05:51
  sat there. My underwear was soaked, my
• 2:05:54
  socks was so my youngest daughter was mad.
• 2:05:57
  We had on Pancho's. My glad I wear glasses.
• 2:06:00
  I didn't have any windshield wiper, so I was just taking my
• 2:06:02
  glasses off and wiping them and I sat there, as I went back to
• 2:06:06
  my vehicle with a bunch of disgruntled and dejected tech
• 2:06:09
  fans. And I look at my wife and I
• 2:06:11
  said, I am done. She said, what do you mean?
• 2:06:14
  I said I will never go back to a game.
• 2:06:16
  Again, I can't do this. I can't My New Year's I'm
• 2:06:19
  ruined. I can't do this to myself, I
• 2:06:23
  can't drive and get excited and get my expectations in my hopes
• 2:06:28
  up to see us. Give away games to sit in these
• 2:06:31
  conditions. I got to make better use of my
• 2:06:34
  time and money and I wasn't mad at the Players because their
• 2:06:37
  players, I don't do that I played.
• 2:06:39
  So I know what, you know what that means to them, but I felt
• 2:06:41
  like we weren't going anywhere. We were going and it was the
• 2:06:44
  same old thing, wait till next year and we got these guys
• 2:06:48
  coming. Back.
• 2:06:48
  I was like bro it's the Same Song & Dance so I wasn't going
• 2:06:52
  to see us play Notre Dame. I did watch it on my phone I
• 2:06:55
  thought we wouldn't win that game and then all of a sudden
• 2:06:59
  we're up nine and we give that game away.
• 2:07:01
  I remember the pick-6 I was like we're going to win the game.
• 2:07:05
  We're going to beat the Fighting Irish in the primetime game and
• 2:07:08
  we gave it away and I said to him, I said, this is why I
• 2:07:11
  didn't go. I said, look at it.
• 2:07:13
  Look at them because there was a guy.
• 2:07:16
  I wish I could meet him. There was A man.
• 2:07:20
  We will play in Boston College and we will be they were ranked
• 2:07:23
  number two in the country. We were top seven, it was the
• 2:07:27
  tie rod Sean, Glennon game. When tie rod had the ankle
• 2:07:31
  sprain, the catch any Royal had met Ryan came back.
• 2:07:35
  We lost 14 to 10, right? It was raining.
• 2:07:39
  Right? Was a Thursday night game, we
• 2:07:40
  win that game, we jump into the top two.
• 2:07:42
  We lost ugly to LSU but we're in the time to we play for a
• 2:07:45
  national championship. We finish the regular season
• 2:07:48
  fifth in the nation at you. Year.
• 2:07:49
  Yes, we did. And if we beat them we go but
• 2:07:54
  there was a man, I'm on the phone, talking to one of my one
• 2:07:57
  of my best friend's Tyrone times.
• 2:07:59
  We went to Virginia Tech and we're venting, you know, and I'm
• 2:08:02
  just going off and we're talking about what we didn't do wrong,
• 2:08:05
  how he looked into nothing and we did that quick kick and how
• 2:08:09
  Josh Morgan fumbled, the onside kick and we just replaying the
• 2:08:13
  game and I remember he was at the game, he was talking to me
• 2:08:16
  in the parking lot in his car and my mother.
• 2:08:19
  Talking to my look and ESPN. I record the games on my DVR
• 2:08:24
  ESPN shows a tech fan, and he's sitting there.
• 2:08:28
  And so it's a guy and he has a hoodie on.
• 2:08:31
  He's just sitting like this. He's the only guy in the stadium
• 2:08:36
  and I paused it. And I said that is what being a
• 2:08:40
  tech fan is like, we are so close.
• 2:08:43
  I am so tired of being, he was so dejected, that's what I felt
• 2:08:48
  after. The Notre Dame game after the
• 2:08:51
  pit game, when Kevin Jones went for 500 yards rushing and we
• 2:08:54
  lost because Larry Fitzgerald scored in the second half and
• 2:08:58
  DeAngelo Hall was benched in the first half, that's what it felt
• 2:09:01
  like when we had a game 1 against Boise State and we
• 2:09:07
  settle for a field goal, and they come down and March down.
• 2:09:10
  That's what it felt like we had USC, Bilby, and they call a
• 2:09:14
  phantom offensive pass interference.
• 2:09:16
  That's what it felt like when we lost to Kansas.
• 2:09:19
  In to leave whatever picked off tie rod.
• 2:09:21
  Because everybody knew when he came in, he was going throw the
• 2:09:24
  certain route, he picks it off, we lose they Kansas on the fake,
• 2:09:28
  punch those memories. He said, I can spit those
• 2:09:31
  memories all yep. That's why that's why I stopped
• 2:09:37
  going because the rides back and the conversation I was having
• 2:09:43
  with myself. They weren't, they weren't
• 2:09:47
  healthy. They weren't healthy.
• 2:09:50
  So that doesn't mean I don't love my school on my program.
• 2:09:54
  It's just that I want to get over the hump.
• 2:09:57
  I want the confetti. I want.
• 2:10:00
  What happened last Saturday night to happened?
• 2:10:03
  Yes, again, and again. But for a bigger game.
• 2:10:06
  Yep, I want that ship. I tell you, man.
• 2:10:10
  I got my tech, helmet downstairs, in my man cave, in
• 2:10:12
  my basement. I'm going to go.
• 2:10:14
  I'm going to drive around the hole.
• 2:10:16
  Day. And with that helmet on I'm
• 2:10:19
  running. I'm weak, I'm going to go
• 2:10:21
  around. I mean I may be like Terry Tate
• 2:10:24
  whatever his name was with the shoulder pads on the crazy line
• 2:10:27
  back to me but I don't I don't I don't see your listeners and
• 2:10:34
  viewers. I'm not mocking those losses
• 2:10:38
  just to be clear. They are still painful because
• 2:10:42
  you sit there and you get you you get like I'm going to do it.
• 2:10:47
  Last memory, I'm sitting in the national championship game, I'm
• 2:10:50
  a year removed from Virginia Tech.
• 2:10:52
  It's 1999 when the sugar, when the Sugar Bowl playing Florida
• 2:10:57
  State, And my girlfriend. Now, my wife Shanice is sitting
• 2:11:03
  beside me, and we're up in the fourth quarter, 29 and 28, 29
• 2:11:09
  and 28, and I'm looking around. I'm looking around.
• 2:11:15
  And tech fans can feel it. And I get emotional thinking
• 2:11:20
  about it and I'm looking around, I'm like we're up and I look at
• 2:11:24
  my wife, you know, my girlfriend at the time and she's shaking, I
• 2:11:28
  said you all right. She's like we're about to win a
• 2:11:31
  National Championship. I said, we don't jinx it.
• 2:11:33
  She's like, I can't believe we're up because we were down,
• 2:11:36
  we came back. Yeah, and it was so loud and I
• 2:11:41
  look and then all of a sudden fall estate snatched her from
• 2:11:44
  us. And I remember sitting, Sitting
• 2:11:45
  there, I remember sitting there and the crowd cleared out and I
• 2:11:50
  was just sitting there with her just I couldn't move, I couldn't
• 2:11:54
  move, I couldn't move like that guy.
• 2:11:56
  That was at the Boston College game.
• 2:11:59
  I couldn't move because it hurt me to my core.
• 2:12:02
  It felt like somebody told me. Hey man, you're not going to
• 2:12:05
  live tomorrow Heroes and like he hurt me.
• 2:12:10
  So I want to see this year to have a successful season.
• 2:12:14
  I don't do Over under. I don't do the, you know, we're
• 2:12:17
  going to be 6 & 6. We, I don't know I like our
• 2:12:22
  chances in a lot of games because I don't think the
• 2:12:24
  coastal was that good and I think the ACC is open.
• 2:12:27
  I think Clemson is still recovering from losing a
• 2:12:29
  once-in-a-lifetime generational Talent with Trevor Lawrence.
• 2:12:32
  Yeah. So, I feel like right now, the
• 2:12:33
  acc's wide open one team is going to step up, there's a team
• 2:12:38
  right now, that's going to step up, it could be wake, it could
• 2:12:41
  be Tech, it can be Miami. But somebody's Florida State.
• 2:12:45
  It can Maybe somebody, but I wanted to be us, I'm going to be
• 2:12:48
  selfish. I feel like it is a fanbase do
• 2:12:51
  all that suffering. I just reflected on your show
• 2:12:53
  and I can keep going. If there's somebody there
• 2:12:57
  somebody that's do, where do we are?
• 2:13:00
  Do we have been through it all? I mean, come on man.
• 2:13:04
  I mean not like the Cowboy fans that you know, that's where I'm
• 2:13:08
  not talk. I'm not, you know, they feel
• 2:13:10
  like they do they had Talent that's a deeper issue to me.
• 2:13:15
  We Do I just hope we can? I know I'm long, I'm rambling
• 2:13:20
  but I just you guys give me going because it just gets to a
• 2:13:23
  point where I want you guys understand how much it means to
• 2:13:26
  me. I don't want to sound like it's
• 2:13:27
  an addiction or sickening, it's just more.
• 2:13:29
  So it matters right? It's past matter is passion and
• 2:13:37
  I think for I think the listeners LeBar Cooper shout-out
• 2:13:41
  from Facebook. Said he remembered every game
• 2:13:43
  you were talking about is passion and it's being there and
• 2:13:47
  being fans, or being players are being alumni for.
• 2:13:50
  So long, memories are ingrained in the the loss is always you
• 2:13:55
  remember, quicker. You always hurt more.
• 2:13:57
  I mean, don't get me wrong. Well, I never forget Morgan Town
• 2:14:03
  in America? No, no.
• 2:14:05
  Well, I prefer getting tie, rods Miracle.
• 2:14:06
  No. But like you said about 99 me
• 2:14:10
  and Brian, I was a junior. He was a sophomore in high
• 2:14:12
  school. That third quarter and what Mike
• 2:14:16
  did in that team did, That still is it's like you show that to
• 2:14:23
  one person and if they never heard of Michael Vick that
• 2:14:28
  shorter will tell them everything they need to know.
• 2:14:31
  And then in the years go by and you know we've been there for
• 2:14:34
  heartbreak in should have won that game and you're right.
• 2:14:37
  We are due. And we were going to stay in
• 2:14:41
  touch because hopefully Brian can get you a spring game but we
• 2:14:47
  will stay in touch. So we know Oh, you're going down
• 2:14:50
  for the game. I will try everything in my
• 2:14:52
  power to make sure I can get down.
• 2:14:54
  I'll call my mom. Be like, Mom.
• 2:14:56
  I need you come up for the weekend?
• 2:14:59
  Yeah, man. Yeah, you know?
• 2:15:33
  We won that game and they come back.
• 2:15:34
  We want, you know, you're not a sports bar and I'm reluctant to
• 2:15:37
  go to sports bar because people say dumb stuff.
• 2:15:39
  Yes, I just don't like being around.
• 2:15:40
  I don't like being around. I'll look and I'm like, I gotta
• 2:15:43
  go, I can't be around, but that day we came back.
• 2:15:48
  I remember, I just the rest of the weekend, like, I talked to
• 2:15:50
  my dad, he was like, we just won the phone and it was just like
• 2:15:54
  what a crazy game and I was like, Tech just beat Nebraska
• 2:15:58
  and they beat Miami. 31 is 7 and we going to Run a table and I
• 2:16:03
  felt like so excited. But you know, that's what it's
• 2:16:06
  about, those big wins. Those moments.
• 2:16:09
  It's just like a great Christmas with your family, a great
• 2:16:12
  Thanksgiving meal with your grandmother.
• 2:16:14
  It's like, man. That's the time me Curtis and
• 2:16:16
  Bryan hung out. And we took the shots and then
• 2:16:19
  we beat Georgia Tech, 35 to 17 and we posted some pictures on
• 2:16:23
  Instagram and dare forever, right?
• 2:16:26
  Yes. You don't saying so I want more
• 2:16:29
  the like, like Saturday night, man, like me and my wife, Just
• 2:16:32
  up we were tweeting and retweeting and texting and
• 2:16:36
  Facebook was jumping and we were like, yo, this is the best.
• 2:16:39
  It's, you know, it's old it is, I wish everyone can experience
• 2:16:44
  them and that's what makes us. I think we got the best fan base
• 2:16:47
  in the country, and I feel like Pride knows that and when we
• 2:16:50
  start winning, man, it's gonna be on especially with the
• 2:16:53
  Twitter we take over Twitter. So, you know, we might shut the
• 2:16:57
  internet down brother. That's right, I love how after
• 2:17:00
  basketball victories. We get It in the the final score
• 2:17:04
  of the opponent, just getting the mentions and just tearing
• 2:17:07
  up. Yeah.
• 2:17:09
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:17:09
  Yeah. Lovely man.
• 2:17:11
  Yeah. Lovely lovely.
• 2:17:12
  Lovely. Yes, as usual, it's nothing but
• 2:17:18
  a blast. When you're with us we go down
• 2:17:19
  memory lane. We talk about the past, the
• 2:17:22
  present, the future, your memories, your inside your
• 2:17:27
  intelligence. Thank you for joining us again.
• 2:17:30
  In. You know, we're going to have
• 2:17:32
  you back. I mean, I feel like, now, it's
• 2:17:34
  official that the week of March Madness, It's big Madness on the
• 2:17:41
  boundary Corner podcast like buckle up.
• 2:17:44
  It ain't going to be if we're gonna be here for a two hour and
• 2:17:47
  20 minute ride of Tet, Everything with a lot of
• 2:17:53
  passion, a lot of soul, lot of funny stories, a lot of smiles,
• 2:17:57
  a lot of shaking of our heads, but we could we're in a new era.
• 2:18:02
  Now with someone who has hokey and maroon and his blood and
• 2:18:07
  Kirsten Prelude and JC and a DVD in you know gouveia Winslow a
• 2:18:13
  lot of Hokies blood in this staff and I can't wait Ryan
• 2:18:18
  Dwight anything else before we wrap up guys.
• 2:18:21
  I really just want to say thank you here for for Dwight for
• 2:18:23
  jumping on. It's always a pleasure.
• 2:18:26
  Always look forward to having you on always look forward to
• 2:18:28
  seeing what you got to say on the timeline always looking
• 2:18:30
  forward to you know, the Tweets in the Insight that you bring to
• 2:18:34
  the game. So as usual ambassador of Hokie
• 2:18:38
  Nation right here, Dwight Vic. That's going to thank you both
• 2:18:41
  man. I just want to thank you both.
• 2:18:42
  I'm big fancy you both man. I never take an interview an
• 2:18:46
  opportunity to share my truth and insight for granted.
• 2:18:49
  God bless you both men. Keep The great work, I checked
• 2:18:51
  for your stuff, I always listened specially during the
• 2:18:53
  season. You guys give great Insight your
• 2:18:56
  head in the game. There's enough people out here
• 2:18:58
  that appreciate everything. We're all doing man.
• 2:19:00
  We're in this together, man, again, whatever I can do to
• 2:19:03
  support you, guys. I'll keep you both in prayer.
• 2:19:06
  Shout out to your families, your fans.
• 2:19:07
  Your support has meant. Thank you again, man.
• 2:19:10
  All right, I appreciate y'all, man.
• 2:19:12
  Same to you and your family and everything, to why we really
• 2:19:15
  appreciate. And that's going to wrap up this
• 2:19:17
  episode of The Boundary Corner podcast with the white Vic.
• 2:19:20
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• 2:19:23
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