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MINI SCROLL: Unf*ck America Tour scandal, Madeleine White bachelorette backlash + Catherine Paiz book · Mini Scroll

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  Hi everyone, welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
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  culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories from social
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  media, the creator economy and the digital space every Monday
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  the founder of the youth digital media brand Centennial World.
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  Welcome back to Mini Scroll, everyone.
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  You know, we are quick turn around girlies here at
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  Centennials journey, Internet culture.
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  a very long time. Annabelle is leaving tomorrow,
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  so she's not at work today. She's going on five weeks.
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  You guys, I was a bit confused when I gave you guys the
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  schedule last week. OK, so I have three more weeks
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  All right, let's just get into the stories for today.
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  So the first story that I have for you guys is I'm going to be
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  covering at a fairly high level because otherwise this episode
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  would be like 3 hours long. The UN Fuck America tour and
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  everything that's happened there.
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  So it's been going on for the last few weeks.
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  But over the weekend there was a major development that kind of
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  like blew this open and exposed a lot of creators and their
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  hypocrisy or alleged hypocrisy. So let's just get into it.
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  Multiple big leftist TikTok stars have been embroiled in
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  controversy this week related to the Unfuck America tour.
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  So Unfuck America is a tour organized by a woman named Z
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  Cohen Sanchez and the intention is to challenge and oppose
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  Charlie Kirk and Turning Point US as tour where they advocate
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  for conservative politics across American high schools, college
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  and university campuses. The two big banner creators who
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  were like on all of the promo who were going to go on this
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  tour were Dean Withers and Parker Get a Job, both notably
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  white Gen. Z men.
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  The tour raised a lot of money. It cost a lot of money I guess
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  to do tours like this. They raised around $100,000 to
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  facilitate everything. Anyways, this is basically
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  imploded. So amid organizing and like
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  getting started with this, some creators, mostly black women,
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  went on a live to discuss the tour and raise some questions
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  about where the money was going. They questioned the tour's
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  efficacy. They questioned if the money was
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  being used effectively and they also questioned the tours lack
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  of diversity with the creators being asked to be part of it.
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  And I guess that was a sticking point.
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  Prior to this Tick Tock Live even people were already kind of
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  criticizing Z about that, especially since the two
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  headliners are white men. So Z jumped into this live and
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  allegedly according to a Substack post that I found
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  written by CFH Unfiltered, Z was advised by the black creators
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  who are a part of the Unfuck America tour not to jump in this
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  live. So basically the creators who
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  were involved in Unfuck America had a big chat, like a group
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  chat. And when this live started
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  happening and popping off, I guess they were like talking in
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  this group chat about the live. And presumably according to the
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  Substack, I'm going to like assume that based on this, the
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  information from the sub stack. And what ended up happening was
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  that Z was talking to people in this chat like, you know, I'm
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  going to jump in. And then some of the creators,
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  particularly black women, were like, don't jump in like this is
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  not your place. But I guess she did jump in.
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  During this discussion on live, Z made several comments that
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  people deemed racist or micro aggressive.
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  And there are also allegations floating around at the same time
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  that Z didn't pay the creators who were on this tour,
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  particularly the creator, who were not white, because of the
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  comments she made on this live and also because of the
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  allegations that she was not paying people.
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  There was this public pressure from other creators
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  participating in the Unfuck America tour to address this,
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  especially because a lot of them were asking their followers to
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  donate to like, that is I guess where a lot of the $100,000 came
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  from was like donations from followers.
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  So a few of the creators made videos condemning her comments
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  and claiming that they had called out directly in this big
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  group chat when that happened. And Andra, whose username is
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  hope you find your dad. I am sure you guys know her
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  because she is like a pop culture commentary mixed with
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  like political commentary creator.
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  She's quite big, but she was one of them.
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  Others made videos explaining their involvement or like lack
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  thereof, trying to distance themselves from Z because Z was
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  not, I mean, not she was not apologizing.
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  She was not really taking the feedback or the criticism about
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  how she acted on the live well. So this really blew up this
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  weekend when creator Peyton Vanessa, who was part of this
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  tour, made a lengthy expose video sharing receipts that show
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  many of the creators and how they claimed to have called out
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  Z. He brought receipts that showed
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  they were allegedly lying about that.
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  For example, Andra said in a video that she had cut Z off and
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  she was getting in fights in the group chat about this whole
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  situation, basically saying like, I was defending what was
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  right. I was calling her out for her
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  racism, but in Peyton's screenshots they show that Andra
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  was in the group chat allegedly saying she was going to get on
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  her spam account and troll the live of the black women who were
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  speaking out against Z. Peyton also brought receipts
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  that showed Dean Withers allegedly knew that Z doesn't
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  pay creators that do work for her organization, but failed to
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  disclose this to others. And, you know, still asked his
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  followers to donate to the tour knowing this information.
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  And then there were questions about where the $100,000 went.
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  And Peyton addressed this in his video, too, claiming that the
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  tour paid a company called Seoul Strategies $95,000 for voter
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  registration efforts. He then went on to say that the
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  founder and owner of Seoul Strategies is Z.
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  So he's essentially saying that she paid herself $95,000 out of
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  the $100,000 that was raised for this tour.
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  Peyton also claims that Z is withholding creator payment from
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  someone until they sign an NDA and among other things, there
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  were other creators that he criticized.
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  It was a very long video. So Z has responded to the
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  accusations that she took $95,000.
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  I've decided today that I'm actually going to respond
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  because Peyton has decided to get on this app and accuse me of
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  money laundering, which is a crime.
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  First, I want to address the $95,000 because clearly it's
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  really cute that you don't know how business isn't tax work, but
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  that is actually a very typical practice that businesses process
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  reimbursements because it's a lot easier to do it through
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  business than through a pack. The $95,000 specifically was for
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  our deep canvassing program and our voter registration program
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  where we hired over 30 canvassers that worked for over
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  8 weeks. Plus also we had a phone banking
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  program as well, which was very successful.
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  And if you want to see the receipts from that too, I'm
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  happy to share those. So let's take a look at all of
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  the receipts, every single transaction that was done for
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  the Unfuck America tour, which by the way will be available on
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  the FCC website this time next week as we are completing our
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  filings. However, since you guys are so
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  concerned about that, wanted to show it to you.
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  Here's what we made at my business, Sole Strategies.
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  In the year 2024, we made $1.7 million in sales, which is very
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  impressive considering that's an off year election and really
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  shows our teams hustle. However, we spent almost the
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  entire thing as you can see in this line, which is kind of
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  ironic because you claim that I don't pay employees and
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  contractors. Right.
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  So that's where we're at now. Essentially.
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  This whole thing kind of made people feel a bit like
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  questionable about the Unfuck America situation, definitely
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  questionable about Z. And then now the way that the
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  creators have responded and been seemingly hypocritical with
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  Peyton's video kind of exposing their hypocrisy, people are
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  like, what the fuck? And like, where do we go from
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  here basically? So a lot of people are just like
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  Z, like, why did you not just take the feedback on board, like
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  put your ego aside, listen to the feedback about how you were
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  acting on the live and just like apologize.
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  And if that happened, like this would have not blown up to the
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  level that it has. But of course, if this didn't
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  happen, then we might not kind of be questioning the motives of
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  Dean and Andra and some of these other creators that have been
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  called out. So like, that is possibly the
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  silver lining is if the receipts that Peyton brought are true,
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  then it's good for us to know who these people are.
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  But I do think when it comes to just like the accountability
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  piece, like literally this has exploded and caused like
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  multiple quote UN quote cancellations because Z could
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  not take accountability. She could not like put her ego
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  aside. I think it's so delusional as a
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  white person to think that you're ever above or like beyond
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  racist programming. Like, oh, I've done all the
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  unlearned running I need to. I'm in my mid 20s.
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  Like that is not how this works. I think to my fellow white
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  people who are in left of spaces, like care about this
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  stuff and care about like being a good person and learning,
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  we're going to fuck up. Like we're going to say things
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  that are microaggressive, inappropriate, out of line
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  probably many times in life, despite wanting to do better and
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  to be better. But you can only do better and
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  be better when you're willing to put your ego aside and actually
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  face feedback and criticism head on and with an open mind, even
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  when it feels like hate. We talk about this with creators
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  all the time is like they do get so much feedback all the time.
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  So sometimes it can feel confusing to like, sift through
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  what's valid criticism and like what's not.
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  But this was like targeted like she was on a live with a handful
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  of women. Like, this was not, you know,
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  some vibe viral video where you just can't keep up with the
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  comments section. This is like a handful of women.
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  The thing is, like, we're not special.
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  You know, like, nobody's trying to catch us out.
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  Like, people are not intentionally twisting your
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  words or like, maybe, you know, 1% at the most of people might
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  be trying to do that. People are not out to get you.
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  They are not intentionally twisting your words.
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  From somebody who has a podcast five days a week where sometimes
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  I am talking about really sensitive topics, I'm putting
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  myself out there and putting my opinions out there.
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  I can tell you I don't have the biggest audience, but I, you
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  know, we are growing a lot. And I can tell you like, people
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  are not the feedback that we get.
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  Like people are not intentionally trying to like
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  call you out. They're not trying to twist your
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  words. They want you to succeed.
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  They want to lift you up, and people also want to forgive you.
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  Like, I don't know, just put your ego aside.
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  I don't understand because it's not even like, oh, just say
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  sorry because you shouldn't say sorry if you are not sorry.
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  Like you shouldn't say sorry if you are just saying it in a
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  performative way. So I'm not sitting here saying
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  she should have just said sorry. I'm sitting here thinking like,
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  put your ego aside so you can own that mistake.
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  Do you know how fucking annoying it is to be friends with
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  somebody who can never be wrong? Like we all know that feeling
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  you are being, that you're not above learning, you're not above
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  any of this. I come at this from a place of
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  being like, why would you not listen to the group that you are
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  like allegedly trying to lift up and allegedly trying to fight
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  for in this cause? Like one of the groups?
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  Like I, if you are concerned about marginalized people in the
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  US and you're concerned about what their reality is going to
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  look like if things become more and more right wing, like why
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  would you not be so open to listening to them and their
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  experiences? I don't know what the fuck
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  anyways guys, that's a high level version of everything that
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  happened. Go watch Peyton's video.
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  There's honestly if you just search it in tech talk you'll
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  find tons of information. But that is like a starter pack
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  for you guys. OK, the next story that I have
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  for you guys, this is lighthearted.
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  We need something lighthearted after that story.
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  Madeline White tick tocker. Madeline White has documented
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  losing her passport before her Bachelorette trip and she is
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  taking people on that journey. So Madeline White is a huge
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  fashion tick tocker. She got quite famous last year
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  when she was embroiled in controversy around her PJ brand.
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  See you tomorrow. In a nutshell, Madeline, she was
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  under fire for first selling pyjamas at a high price that
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  were kind of like made, I guess, of not great material.
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  So I think she was charging $145.00 for 100% polyester PJ's
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  and people were disappointed in her.
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  She took that feedback on board. She took it on board, OK.
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  She actually I think closed her business or like temporarily
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  went offline and seven months later returned with a relaunch
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  of much better products and was like, you guys were right Like
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  that was just not the vibe. I was wrong about that first
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  launch. Like she took it OK.
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  However, this launch didn't go well and this is what really
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  like catapulted her to a temporary moment of viral fame.
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  A creator purchased her items and noticed that there was
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  deceptive labeling. So on Madeline's online store,
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  it said that the item that the creator bought was 92% silk and
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  8% spandex. But when she received the item
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  on and the label itself, it said 95% viscose and 5% elastane.
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  It didn't really go beyond that. And she hasn't really seemed to
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  take a hit to her reputation or anything too much.
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  And now people are like really into following like her wedding
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  journey because she's getting married to DJ Andrew Fettick,
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  who is 1/2 of loud luxury Shout out Canada.
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  She's just a fashion girlie. So people are really excited
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  about this. So a few days ago Madeline
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  posted a video saying she was supposed to leave for her
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  Bachelorette trip in Cabo in nine hours and she was
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  desperately searching for her passport.
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  And unfortunately a day later she posted an update crying
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  saying her passport was nowhere to be found and she must have
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  misplaced it coming back from a recent trip to Miami.
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  The comments were shitfire If you can imagine people being
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  like you're rich you don't deserve to cry.
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  Like what do you have to cry about?
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  People saying you know you shouldn't be expecting your
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  friends and family to pay for a trip that expensive to a
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  different country for a Bachelorette trip.
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  Other people basically saying she deserves it because she
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  expected that of people. A lot of comments but how you
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  can enter and re enter Cabo without a passport I guess
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  through the US border but she's British so she can't.
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  Like I think she lives in LA but regardless if she doesn't have
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  AUS like citizenship I guess she can't.
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  Anyways a dumpster fire. So she was responding to some of
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  these comments and the main thing she was responding was to
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  people being like you deserve this because you tried to get
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  your friends to go to a different country for your
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  Bachelorette trip. And she was like I actually paid
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  for the whole thing. She's going in defending
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  herself, responding to so many comments.
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  She's like, well, actually I pay for the whole thing, including
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  flights. But thanks for your concern.
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  I like that she's defending herself.
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  I think there is just, there's so many assumptions online Like
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  that is one of the biggest issues that we have with
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  communication online on social platforms like this, especially
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  TikTok in the comments sections. It's just like the amount of
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  assumptions that people throw out about you when they actually
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  have no idea. And I get it.
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  Like, I've never been on a Bachelorette trip that was like
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  paid for by the bride. So I understand that's like a
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  very unique situation. But I like that she was
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  defending herself. I like that she was paying for
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  her friends. But yes.
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  So don't worry. Though she was able to go on her
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  trip, her fiance sent Madeline and her friends to Vegas to say
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  sorry that you didn't get to go to Cabo, you're going to go to
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  Vegas instead. And they sent her, he sent her
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  on a private jet. Goals bad for the environment,
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  good for the content. Anyways, the next story that I
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  have for you guys, this is a bit of speculation kind of it's
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  really interesting actually. And I literally just said on the
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  Weirder Together podcast that I don't cover speculation, but I
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  guess I'm also hypocritical. OK, so Catherine Paez has
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  seemingly opened up about Austin Mcbroom's cheating on her in her
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  new book and the reason this is speculative.
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  So she has confirmed in the past that he cheated on her, but the
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  confirmation and like her talking about it in this book is
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  speculative and I'll talk about why.
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  So Catherine is from the Ace family.
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  Obviously Austin is from the Ace family.
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  They were married for years, had children, had this huge YouTube
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  channel, and then that all kind of blew up maybe like a year and
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  a half ago. And Austin has been like going
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  off the deep end on Nachat. We've talked about that a little
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  bit. And Catherine has also been
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  going on her own journey. I'm going to say like a bit of
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  like a pipeline she's headed down.
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  But yes, they have been divorced or separated for a while and she
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  has a book coming out called Dolores My Journey Home Finding
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  Myself beyond the Ace family. It's coming out on July 1st.
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  I actually really want to read this.
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  The Internet is basically saying that the first 3 chapters were
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  released online already, like to Reddit and to like Apple books
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  and stuff. And then it seems like maybe the
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  publisher decided to pull that back.
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  If anyone works in book publishing, let me know what the
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  T is there. Like, is that common?
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  Why would they release so many chapters and then take it
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  offline? I'm not really sure, but that's
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  the speculative part of this. OK, but the pages that were
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  allegedly released in it, she seems to talk about how she
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  found out that Austin was cheating on her and that
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  experience. So she said she found out that
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  Austin was cheating on her when she was pregnant with her third
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  baby and that she had a really hard time admitting it to her
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  mom and family. And now, of course, like because
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  of this and people finding out the timeline, the alleged
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  timeline, because again, these pages might not be true, people
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  are going back and watching their old vlogs and they're
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  like, Oh my God, when Catherine gave birth in that birth vlog,
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  like she didn't even look at Austin because she obviously
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  just found out that he was cheating, eating.
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  People are like putting the pieces together as they say.
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  The proof is always in the content.
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  Okay, They said that about Vanderpump Rules scant of all.
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  And it's so true. I just rewatched the entirety of
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  Vanderpump Rules with my brother and his girlfriend.
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  It took us so long, like months and months and months because as
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  you guys know, my brother's been living with me doing his working
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  holiday visa. And yeah, it like the proof is
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  there. I'm convinced now that Tom and
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  Raquel were maybe or Rachel or maybe having an affair like
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  season 8. I don't know, like, I'm not even
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  kidding. The proof is in the content.
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  OK. Another really interesting thing
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  that came out of this is that she also talks about their big
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  basketball charity event that they did.
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  You know how they always did those like charity events?
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  They did a big, like, basketball game or whatever celebrity
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  basketball game. And she says that during that,
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  Austin invited another girl. So there was another girl there.
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  Like watching, she said, like engaging with them.
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  She was like, she kind of seemed out of place, but also like, not
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  really. I'm actually really interested
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  in reading this book. I hope she dives more into like
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  being such a famous vlogger and the pressures of that, of
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  keeping that up. They would vlog their lives
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  24/7, like literally 24/7. And I'm interested to see as
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  well if she has anything on vlogging her children and having
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  her children so, so online and monetizing her kids and all of
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  their moments and how she feels about that.
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  So I actually will probably, well, I will read that book and
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  I will, I mean, I know it's far away, but I will let you guys
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  know how it is when I read it. Anyways guys.
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  This is a bit of a random episode, but thank you so much
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