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When Creating Feels Like Warfare: Desiree Danielle’s Story + New Book | EP143 · Jess Ask

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  Speaker 1: He loo? Hello, Hey, we've made it. We've made Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, because that's the blessing. Listen, how are you
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  Speaker 1: feeling over there? Says I'm good? Are you good? Listen?
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  Speaker 1: The eyes are trying to goot boot Listen. It's a
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  Speaker 1: fight sometimes it's a fight. But I'm super excited about today.
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  Speaker 1: Why am I excited? Because I think you see this
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  Speaker 1: book if you're watching on the via YouTube and all
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  Speaker 1: the other platforms that we show this on we have
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  Speaker 1: a book in front of me. Uh huh. And this
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  Speaker 1: book is called Created to Create and it's by none
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  Speaker 1: other than our special girl Desi Raate Dan. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: so I think we're overdue. I think we're overdue with
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  Speaker 1: the conversation because this book was released in October last year.
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  Speaker 1: She worked very very hard. And the Safe Space, who
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  Speaker 1: to the Safe Space, the community where influencers learn how
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  Speaker 1: to do the things they're afraid of on purpose. Amen.
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  Speaker 1: So this book is about unlocking kingdom creativity. And we
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  Speaker 1: went through this book for the month of January. And
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  Speaker 1: when I tell you ripped apart so desl Ray, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: y'all know her as the producer, but today we're getting
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  Speaker 1: to know desil Ray the off Oh my god, how
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  Speaker 1: does that make you feel? When I say, doesn't weirdka,
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  Speaker 1: it's even kind of weird? Who was uh in group
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  Speaker 1: reading the books together? It was just I was just like, Lord,
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  Speaker 1: this is what's weird about it? What do you mean here?
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  Speaker 1: Because you know, when you're used to when you produce
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  Speaker 1: her in the background like I've done, and it's and
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting because I've been in the four round in
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  Speaker 1: the background in different spaces. Right, So when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to like dancing or like acting, I used to do
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  Speaker 1: a lot of like monologue and stuff like that in church.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't it felt it felt like it wasn't really
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  Speaker 1: like me, because it's like you're not like putting on
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  Speaker 1: but you like you step into a different space. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you're you're you're if you're doing a monologue or you're dancing,
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  Speaker 1: you're you're producing someone else's art. That's what a producer
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  Speaker 1: does too, Like you're you're pushing someone else's art. And
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  Speaker 1: then but these this this baby is so it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of saying weird, but it's it's it's really vulnerable. It's
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  Speaker 1: really really okay, So let's okay. What was vulnerable about it?
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  Speaker 1: The like it's one thing like when you you have conversations,
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  Speaker 1: we talk, right, But when you really begin to like
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  Speaker 1: just pour out and just be vulnerable and obedient to
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  Speaker 1: the things that God has called you to do and
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  Speaker 1: just put it out there for the people to see, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's always like that's that's that's a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: the risk. Right, Even with podcasting, with any type of content,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's a blog, whether it's email like, it's always
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  Speaker 1: the risk of somebody else's opinion, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: But I think this book really kind of released some
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  Speaker 1: people to kind of just do it anyway, just to
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  Speaker 1: do it anyway. So before we get into the book,
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  Speaker 1: you just talked about the idea of opinions, right, And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's very important because you know, there are
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  Speaker 1: several people like me myself that have not become the
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  Speaker 1: author that they know that they were called to be
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  Speaker 1: and to produce. But we're working on that because I
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  Speaker 1: don't want you to. You're not gonna come for me
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  Speaker 1: on this episode. I'm coming for you, all right. So
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a mutual exchange. Yes, mutual. Okay, we'll
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  Speaker 1: try to see how mutual this is gonna be. But
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  Speaker 1: you thought you talk about the opinions. How how involved
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  Speaker 1: were your thoughts on the opinions about what people would
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  Speaker 1: see think about when you were writing this book, because
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  Speaker 1: it took you about what nine months? Yeah, So this
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  Speaker 1: book was produced out of an assignment for the mentorship
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  Speaker 1: program that I'm enlisted Eagles. It's a twelve month mentorship
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  Speaker 1: on prayer. So going into it, one of the requires
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  Speaker 1: I knew one of the requirements was gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: be a printed book on prayer. It wasn't any guidelines
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  Speaker 1: on what it had to be about or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: And also I thought it was so interesting, like now
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  Speaker 1: I'm on the other side of it, Like there was
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  Speaker 1: very little instruction on like the book itself. Like we
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  Speaker 1: had like monthly like checkpoints and things that kind of
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  Speaker 1: help push us along, but there really wasn't any type
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  Speaker 1: of like detailed like hey, do this, do that, anything
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  Speaker 1: like that. And it was so interesting that everybody had
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  Speaker 1: their own experience and journey with what God has given them.
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  Speaker 1: And so as I'm writing first, I was like, Lord,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say, like who gonna listen?
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  Speaker 1: Like those are the types of thoughts that just, I
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  Speaker 1: think just kind of naturally come up sometimes when you're
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  Speaker 1: stepping into a new space. But as I just begin
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  Speaker 1: to just lean in, the Lord just began to show
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  Speaker 1: me like he gave me created to create honestly the
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  Speaker 1: year before, like I had started doing and I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know. I think it just came from like him
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  Speaker 1: really showing me me like this whole journey has been
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  Speaker 1: about me understanding who I am like why I'm always
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  Speaker 1: into things, you know what I'm saying. That's why when
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  Speaker 1: we started talking about build a build, it started to
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  Speaker 1: make sense to me. I've always been I've always done
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  Speaker 1: different things right, And even a couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 1: when the Holy Spirit gave me unboxed and unboxed worship,
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to make it something that I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was supposed to be. But as I just kind
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  Speaker 1: of I moved on it. Yeah, talked about that, but
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  Speaker 1: it was kind of like, I don't think this is
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  Speaker 1: what this is right now, and I just begin to
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  Speaker 1: live and be obedient. And so the unboxing of a
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  Speaker 1: thing is really kind of where this created to create
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  Speaker 1: came from, because you know, people will be like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you're just doing too much. You're like you're doing the most,
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  Speaker 1: You're all over here, all over there, and I'm just
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  Speaker 1: like that's just kind of how I'm wired. Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And so the year before, like leading up to my birthday,
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  Speaker 1: I did this created to create campaign kind of thing
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  Speaker 1: like where I was just kind of inspired, inspired to
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  Speaker 1: you know, share with people like what I do because
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  Speaker 1: I don't really talk about what I do that often
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  Speaker 1: and kind of the spaces and the lanes that I'm in.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what the Holy Spirit brought back to me
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  Speaker 1: in this book. And so the book is about partnering
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  Speaker 1: with God with the thing that he's giving you to do,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And I think that's important to to kind
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  Speaker 1: of like put a pin in because for one, I
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  Speaker 1: want I want you to answer this, what does it
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  Speaker 1: mean to be created to create? And then also what
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  Speaker 1: did you learn? What new things did you learn about
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  Speaker 1: yourself in this process? So being created to create the
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  Speaker 1: really the foundation of it. It starts with God in
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  Speaker 1: the beginning in Genesis one, God introduced himself before anything
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  Speaker 1: else as a creator. It is that in the beginning
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  Speaker 1: God created the heavens and the earth, and he began
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  Speaker 1: to speak and then create and bring things to fruition
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  Speaker 1: in the earth. And then further on in the chapter
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  Speaker 1: I believe it's one twenty six, it said, then God said,
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  Speaker 1: let us make man in our image, in our likeness. Right.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't talking about oh, we're gonna have like baby
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  Speaker 1: curl hair and blue eyes or anything like that. He
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  Speaker 1: was talking about our nature. So if God himself is
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  Speaker 1: the creator, that means if we're creating in his image
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  Speaker 1: and his likeness, that means He's also created us to
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  Speaker 1: create in some shape, form or fashion, right, and so
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  Speaker 1: the book really is really to inspire you even if
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  Speaker 1: you're kind of in a creative space. Most people don't
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  Speaker 1: find themselves or label themselves as a creative because they
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  Speaker 1: may not have like a tangible I'm saying tangible skill
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  Speaker 1: like I don't paint, I don't draw, I don't you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't play the instrument. So they discount themselves as creatives.
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  Speaker 1: But the truth is, if we're creating his image and
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  Speaker 1: his likeness, the Lord created the whole earth, he brought
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  Speaker 1: the sea, he brought the land. That's not dancing, it's creating.
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  Speaker 1: So and so that's really what that means, because we
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  Speaker 1: are created in his image and his likeness to create
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  Speaker 1: and bring forth the things that He's given us from
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  Speaker 1: from from the earth, from the spiritual ram into the
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  Speaker 1: to the earth ram. I think so much. So even
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  Speaker 1: when we talk about build or build up, you don't
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  Speaker 1: build without structure, yes, and you don't. You don't build
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  Speaker 1: or have structure without creation. All of them have to work.
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  Speaker 1: And I think sometimes when people are good at just
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  Speaker 1: the building part or just the structure part, which is
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  Speaker 1: like strategic moves right, or just the creative part. We
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  Speaker 1: don't ever think they can be a blend of a thing.
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  Speaker 1: And one thing I know about you, Desiray, is that
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  Speaker 1: you're blended. You are blended will Sometimes you're very heightened
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  Speaker 1: in the building stage. Sometimes you're very heightening your creative stage.
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  Speaker 1: It depends on what part of you. This is so good.
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  Speaker 1: I think understanding that being multifasted means that there's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a heightened part of you. You're not going
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  Speaker 1: to be multi fast the same thing, even though all
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  Speaker 1: things are working for the good, there's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a highlight to a position. Like when I'm here, I'm
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  Speaker 1: podcaster Jessica right, I'm in I'm in this zone. When
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  Speaker 1: I go to Rahova Church Birmingham that has service every
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  Speaker 1: Sunday at eleven am at twenty one twenty center point
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  Speaker 1: parks away, I'll get to the world because there's room
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  Speaker 1: for you. But when I'm there, I have multiple hats there.
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  Speaker 1: At one moment, I'm working, I'm worshiped, I'm gona worship team.
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  Speaker 1: Then I transition quickly to media. I'm behind the camera.
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  Speaker 1: Then I can transition to albabaro or minister or innecessor
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  Speaker 1: there's so many, there is always a highlighted moment, even
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  Speaker 1: though as a multi fasted person there's a lot that
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  Speaker 1: goes on in our head. Jesus, how do you know
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  Speaker 1: what like outside of being in the position or space,
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  Speaker 1: how do you know when it's time to put turn
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  Speaker 1: on that portion of creativity? So I think it. So
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  Speaker 1: the end of the book, would you like the book? No,
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  Speaker 1: you're good? Oh, okay, But the end of it kind
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  Speaker 1: of talks about this as it talks. I can't remember
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  Speaker 1: the exact address, but it's the parable of the talents
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  Speaker 1: in the book. Right, So this is what this reminds
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  Speaker 1: me of. It reminds me that the God has given
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  Speaker 1: each one of us something. Some of them he's given
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  Speaker 1: us one thing. Some of The's given us two, three, four, five,
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  Speaker 1: whatever that looks like, right, And so as I've been journeying,
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  Speaker 1: I begin to understand that the things that He's given
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  Speaker 1: us is really just the tools for the purpose of
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  Speaker 1: what He's called us to do. Right, And so I
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  Speaker 1: and it's a process like I had to be okay
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  Speaker 1: with being multifaceted like some in some spaces, that's a
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  Speaker 1: cussword that isn't right because you just like people, people
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  Speaker 1: who don't have the grace to do multiple things don't
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  Speaker 1: understand you're doing multiple things. Come on now, right, And
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  Speaker 1: so as I've just kind of prayed and released and
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  Speaker 1: surrendered and submitted the things, all the things to the Lord,
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  Speaker 1: I'm okay with switching. I look at them as assignments, right,
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  Speaker 1: And it just began to make sense. Even when I
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  Speaker 1: was in the salon full time, I actually loved when
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  Speaker 1: my day was different, like I had different types of
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  Speaker 1: services all throughout it. I don't think I could personally
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  Speaker 1: be only a short hairstylist like doing that, even though
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  Speaker 1: like it would be just a slightly different just depending
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  Speaker 1: on the person's head and cut. But I love like
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  Speaker 1: doing different and I'm just like, I don't like I
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  Speaker 1: love this. And so it began to make sense as
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  Speaker 1: the Lord just begin to show me, like, hey, I've
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  Speaker 1: given you these different things because your call to different
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  Speaker 1: groups of people. But you know, some of the things
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  Speaker 1: that people it don't make sense to them because it
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  Speaker 1: gives them anxiety. Yeah, I just realize sometimes I get anxiety. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Lord, what listen? But it will probably the
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  Speaker 1: things that we call anxiety. They probably like just think
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  Speaker 1: thinking about it. Doing multiple things is kind of like
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  Speaker 1: overwhelmings in them. So I want to reference what you
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  Speaker 1: just said because I got I have the book, and
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  Speaker 1: my book is signed by the way I bought. Let's
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  Speaker 1: make it clear I bought this book. I bought two
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  Speaker 1: of them. Okay, so don't get it twisted, all right. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: So this one she was referencing is on page eighty five,
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  Speaker 1: The Parable of the Talents? What did you do with
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  Speaker 1: what God gave you? I'm gonna read this real quick.
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  Speaker 1: In Matthew twenty five, fourteen through thirty, Jesus tells the
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  Speaker 1: story of a master who entrusts three servants with talents.
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  Speaker 1: One receives five, one receives two, and one receives one.
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  Speaker 1: The first to invest and multiply what they've been given,
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  Speaker 1: but the last one he buries it. When the master returns,
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  Speaker 1: he praises the first two well done, good and faithful servant.
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  Speaker 1: But the third servant, he said the third the third
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  Speaker 1: servant says something that always grabs me. I was afraid,
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  Speaker 1: so I hit it that line right there. That's where
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  Speaker 1: so many of us have lived, afraid we're not good enough,
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  Speaker 1: afraid it won't afraid it won't be received well, afraid
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  Speaker 1: of feeling, afraid of succeeding and not knowing what to
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  Speaker 1: do next. So we bury the very thing we are
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  Speaker 1: called to build. And Jesus makes it plain. God is
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  Speaker 1: not pleased with the God is not pleased when we
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  Speaker 1: bury what he gave us, no matter how small it seems.
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  Speaker 1: You weren't asked to be successful by the world's standards.
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  Speaker 1: You were asked to be faithful with what was entrusted
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  Speaker 1: to you. That's so good. The part when you really
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  Speaker 1: like when you made it very plain, I was afraid,
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  Speaker 1: so I hid it. What were you afraid of that
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  Speaker 1: you hid one? My voice? So the other fear that
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  Speaker 1: came with this book is, hey, I'm really putting my
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  Speaker 1: voice out there. Even though it's in a written form,
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  Speaker 1: that's still my voice in my thoughts and the thoughts
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  Speaker 1: that the Holy Spirit has given me because I struggled
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  Speaker 1: with my voice for a while for a long time. Also,
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  Speaker 1: and just you know, people are just mean, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and and nasty sometimes, you know. And so as you're
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  Speaker 1: growing into who God has caused you to be, there
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  Speaker 1: does come a level of confidence. Yeah, like what he's
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  Speaker 1: given you, but there's still those vulnerable spaces that can
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  Speaker 1: get touched that it's almost kind of like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you got like I don't know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: So like a sore, like a bruise, Right, you got
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  Speaker 1: a bruise, and as the bruise begins to heal, it's
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  Speaker 1: still maybe a little tender.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So if you have somebody that's like touching on something
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  Speaker 1: that that's that's that you're still healing through. That's still
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  Speaker 1: gonna hurt, you know what I'm saying. And so that
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  Speaker 1: the fear of that sometimes like really being because something
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  Speaker 1: when the Lord tells you to be obedient, there really
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  Speaker 1: is no back and forth about no, I can't X
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  Speaker 1: Y and Z, I don't want to lift this party.
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  Speaker 1: And he's telling you. If he's telling you to release
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  Speaker 1: this thing, he's telling you release it for a reason.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes that may still be a tender area, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But we have to trust
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  Speaker 1: and believe that it's for a reason. And sometimes when
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  Speaker 1: just the opinions of others will kind of just touch
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  Speaker 1: on that spot, that's that's that's really just what it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the fear of like just people being meet
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  Speaker 1: and nasty sometimes. So I love that you brought up
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  Speaker 1: like the idea of healing, right. And there are still
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  Speaker 1: areas that when God caused us to do something, we
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  Speaker 1: fear takes over sometimes because we believed the thing will
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  Speaker 1: hurt again. Yeah, this Jesus, we believe the thing will
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  Speaker 1: hurt again. But there are multiple healing points for you
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  Speaker 1: in this journey. What was What's one or two that
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  Speaker 1: stick out to you? I think the biggest one is, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the the restoration. And it's not that the relationship with
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  Speaker 1: my dad was like horrible. It wasn't. It wasn't that,
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  Speaker 1: it was just you know, as a as a as
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  Speaker 1: you grow, you just realize that there were some areas
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  Speaker 1: and spaces that you felt like could have been a
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  Speaker 1: little bit better. And the truth is we get our
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  Speaker 1: we receive our identities from my father, we do, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And so sometimes if those spaces hadn't really been cultivated
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  Speaker 1: as a young age, as you grow you begin to
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  Speaker 1: realize that there's some things that I'm missing there. So
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  Speaker 1: through this journey, even before this book, the Lord has
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  Speaker 1: just begun to uh really build and heal that relationship
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  Speaker 1: and so I could tell my dad was very proud.
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  Speaker 1: He was very proud of this book of me and
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  Speaker 1: so much so he was like, hey, Danielle, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: get I wanna buy some books. I was like, okay, cool,
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  Speaker 1: So I went. I went to my dad's for Christmas,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I had maybe like six books, six books,
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  Speaker 1: six or seven books with me bought the books and
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  Speaker 1: I can and this is the funny thing he had.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I knew he had been talking about it because he
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: wanted me to sign one for his Uh he's in
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: a couple of bands, and he wanted me to sign
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: one for one of his drummers, which means it tells
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  Speaker 1: me they've been having a conversation about this thing. Right.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: So I signed it, wrote a message whatever the Lord
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: had given me about it, and maybe not a week
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  Speaker 1: and a half later, he called he texts me or
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: called me and was like, uh, Danyal, this this is
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: really good. This is this is deep, you know. And
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: for him to say that, because on Christmas, I discovered
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  Speaker 1: that my dad he believes, but there's some spiritual things
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: that he just doesn't like. There's some spiritual things he's
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: just like, I don't know because that just don't make sense.
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  Speaker 1: He's very logical and it makes sense, you know. And
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: so for him to say that about the words that
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the Lord has given me, this book is on prayer,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's on prayer. It talk
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: about the Holy Spirit, it talk about spiritual things. So
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: for him to call me back and be like, this
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: is really good for your first book. This is good,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: and he says, I want to get five more. I
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: want to get because I want to give this to
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: da da da da da da da dah. And I
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: was just like, man, Lord, this is so dope. And
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: so for me, that just showed me that we don't
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: know why. Sometimes the Lord gives us the assignments that
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: he gives us until we release it. And the relief
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: as we're talking about, is it talks about the book
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: is on him. Yeah, I love. I think that's my
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: favorite healing moment for you as well as I see here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm fighting back tears because I was with you. We
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  Speaker 1: were friends when the Lord transitioned you from being the
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: boss that you are. You know, you still are a
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: boss in cosmetology and doing here and all that stuff,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: but he removed you from that he had you let
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: go of the studio, which then just imp you impact
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  Speaker 1: the everything that you were connected to, right, And I
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: was there when you were your heart was broken having
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: to have conversations with your dad about Hey, this is
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: what the Lord told me. And in so many words, friend,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it for you, so you can't get
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: the trouble for this, okay, In so many words, your
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: daddy thought you was crazy. Your daddy thought you was
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: out of your mind. It's like, why would you leave
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: being able to pay for your pay bills, come and
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: have to ask me meeting for help which was big
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  Speaker 1: for you? That was the Lord. Listen, you go from
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: you go from that to your dad seeing the fruit
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: of your girl. And that's the thing about it. People
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: think that writing something like this only journeys you do
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  Speaker 1: through the writing process, But you've been journeying this. You
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: just wrote about it. You just thought, you know what
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like for your dad to go from I'm
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: upset with you and frustrated with you for obeying God
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: to investing in your obedience that is God? Did you
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: like did that that just hit me? Like that? How
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: when you hear me say that, what do you what
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: the hell does that make you feel? Because I remember
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: the feeling the disappointment that I had, you know, in
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: those earlier moments, and and now it makes it does
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: make sense. Sometimes sometimes we have to be the evidence,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: you know. Sometimes it takes our obedience to be the
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: evidence for somebody else to be able to be obedient
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  Speaker 1: to what the Lord is calling them to do. And
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the journey and and the other thing is like we
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: think that our yes and our obedience to the Lord,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. I mean, it's gonna be like
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: sunshine and rainbows, like it's always gonna be like this
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: heavenly magical situation. And the truth is it's not. It
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: says that the suffering that we endure weighs nothing to
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the glory that comes from that thing, which means we're
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: gonna suffer, that we are going to we are going
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to suffer. And I think I've gotten to the point
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: now where I'm like, it's gonna be some good times, yeah, right,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: But there's also gonna be some suffering. So I get
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: to choose how will I suffer? And and this is
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: just to me a reward for the suffering that that
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I've already walked through. So good. That's so good. One
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: of the things I want to get to you talk
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: about because there there is As a creator, there are
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: level was a frustration that you go through right when
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: you're creating. There's a responsibility, especially when you know that
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: you've submitted your your whole self to God. Being a
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: creative believer is a whole nother level because you can
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: try stuff, but you can't release certain things, or when
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: you release certain things, you're not getting a response that
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: you thoughts were gonna do. But you still have to ope.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: A guy like even doing this podcast can be frustrating sometimes,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: like we just did an episode not too long ago,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and it's just been me and you, Like our episodes
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: together have been doing much better, I would say, and
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: we look at them. I look at the analytics. Does
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: the ray don't look I have to tell her what's
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: going on? She just she just she knew her part.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Let's she knew her part. And so watching the analytics.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: And if you're on YouTube and you understand, like click
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  Speaker 1: through grade, watch our words average duration, you're looking at
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: that and I clicked through rate was one of the
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: highest it had been just with me and you the podcast,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: but the conversation was on six and I'm like, and
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: me not having six you know what I'm saying, which
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I do believe that was a conversation led by God
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  Speaker 1: and I'm getting to this place of freedom. But I
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: was like, Lord, I don't want to have to talk
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: about deck for folks to be, you know, watching so
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: as a creative, as a person that is doing this
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and being genuine and vulnerable with the space that I'm in,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: it was kind of like, why have to talk about this,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: you know, like but understanding the territory that it comes with.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: But you you bring up yeah, on page twenty fold,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Come on, addresses this. I think this is the sick. No,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: this is the first chop. This is the first chop. Okay, No,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start on page twenty three because it started
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  Speaker 1: the bottom. And this is an excuse me. If you
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: judge my reading, you're gonna have to deal with the
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Lord and hook on funnies because I know that it's
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: not my strong suit and I don't care because I
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: got other stuff going on in my brain. Amen. All right,
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  Speaker 1: So Glory to Jesus. When creating feels like warfare, it
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  Speaker 1: starts on page twenty three. We'll just start right there.
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  Speaker 1: But then there are other times, times when you sit
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  Speaker 1: with the blank page and only the and the only
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: thing louder than the silence is the voice of fear.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Times when you've created something beautiful, but doubt creeps in
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: and whispers it's not good enough. Times when comparison chokes you,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: chokes your inspiration before you can even start. I've been
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: there more times than I had like to admit. There
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: was a project I poured my heart into. I stayed up, editing, praying,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: giving my all. When I finally shared it, the response
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: was silence, no comments, no engagement, and the voice of
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: insecurity got loud. Maybe that wasn't God, Maybe this isn't working,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're just doing too much. But even in that silence,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I felt God whisper. Your obedience still counts.
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  Speaker 2: See.
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  Speaker 1: We tend to only measure creativity by how it's received,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: but God measures it by how it's released. Both worship
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: and warfare can be holy. Both require obedience. Some creations
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: will come through communion, others will be birthed through resistance,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: but both are sacred when you offer them to God.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Y'all Okay, the line that took me out because you've
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: got a good little mini. It was in group. Listen, yeah,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: when we was in group, when we was in a
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: safe space, y'all. It when I tell you to know
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: to hear those words, it touched me in multiple ways
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  Speaker 1: right to hear your obedience still counts. It was reaffirming
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  Speaker 1: because sometimes we get frustrated with our obedience because the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: result of our obedience doesn't look like the effort that
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: was put into doing the thing. And sometimes the God
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: is testing us just to see if we have the
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  Speaker 1: tenacity to obey him. In spite of that, we can
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  Speaker 1: just be appreciative of his sound, be appreciative that he
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: gave us an assignment. Sometimes we don't even does a ray.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes we be so frustrated with the response or lack
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: thereof of an assignment, not understanding that God still trusted
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  Speaker 1: us to do it. And that's the biggest win, because
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: if God says I trust you to do something, I
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: trust you to produce something in the world that I produced,
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  Speaker 1: I honor you. I honor what I put inside of you.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I honor It might not work out the way you
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  Speaker 1: wanted to work out right now, but I have still
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  Speaker 1: blessed you with this assignment. I've blessed you with this
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: creative gen And so when you said, literally, I saw
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: so much, but I was so proud, like it was.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't feel like a proud mom or anything like
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: because you oh so. But what I did feel was
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the exposure of your heart. I felt like, God, she
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: is very private and this was, like you said earlier,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: a very very vulnerable place. So can you take us
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: back to you don't have to give us names, numbers,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: zip codes and all that, but take us back to
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: the place where you remembered that and you heard God
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: say your obedience still counts. It's been a couple of times,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Jesus case, because you just know as a creative, like
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: when it comes to like things like producing and editing,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: like editing is probably not my is not editing on
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: all fronts which I photography you. I'm gonna go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and tell the folks I frustrate her when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to that. Okay, I'll be stretching her.
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I do. So it's probably about me and I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know what it's like. We're not naming any names.
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  Speaker 1: There are a couple of projects, okay, but when it
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: comes to editing on all front. I love the upfront part,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: like the producing, the talking, to the interaction. I love
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: that part. So the editing part is just daunting. Whether
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: it's photography, whether it's videography where there's clips, whatever it is,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I just be like, ah lord, I know there's some
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: other stuff that I can do. So there's been a
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: couple of times where I know I've you know, stayed
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: up late, and and a lot of times people that
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: are in that space don't understand the time commitment that
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: it takes to do those things, you know what I'm saying,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Like you see a three minute clip coming on a
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: five minute video and don't understand that it's been ours
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: that had to take and that had to go into
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: that thing, right. And So I think that particular one,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: if I'm honest, I think I was looking for a
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: response from a certain person, right, like like the validation
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: like hey, this is good or blah blah blah blah.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: And I didn't When I didn't get that, I was like,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: so was it bad or is it just good enough?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: And I just begin to realize that a lot of times,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: like everything like if when we really realized like this
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: is my revelation of life. Everything is a process. Everything
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: has to come with a process. Right. So a lot
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: of times the things that the Lord has given us
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: to do is nine times I tend for you. Right,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: that's how How do you think you build character that's
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: so good? How do you think you build obedience? How
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: do you think you learn these things by doing the thing? Right?
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: And so a lot of time and and the and
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the other part is when we're in we're in a
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: world system, okay, social media media, a world system that
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: he's called believers into, right to be able to impact
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: it by Kingdom impact. But there's still world matrix that
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: we used to measure business, to measure creativity, to measure
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: success with. And that's not how the Kingdom works. The
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Kingdom don't care nothing about no analytics like. The Kingdom
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: don't care let your click rate is such and such,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: such and such. The Kingdom don't care like how many
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: people stayed on and watched at this point in time.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: All the Kingdom cares about is were you obedient? What
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: was your heart posture? Did you do this in love?
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Did you do this in was you excited about doing
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: this thing? Or was it? Was it like a daunting
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: task or like you just doing it just because, just because? Right.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is, I remember you
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: talked about like the fall off rate on this one
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: particular video. Right, How do we know that whoever the
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Lord had for that moment that time, they didn't receive
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: what they needed in that moment? Yeah, you know. And
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: so I'm just at the point now where if I
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: know I've done my utmost best. If I know i've
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I've I've served this this thing in excellence, I've worked hard,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I've put my all into it. I know I was abed,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I'm doing exactly what the Lord saying. I'd be like,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: all right, Lord, the rest on you?
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Does that mean I don't look sometimes? Yeah, you know,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I'm like, Lord,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: if I know this is I've done the thing that
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: you've called me to do, the rest is on you. Yeah,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: even what you're saying that I think my struggle is
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: desiree is that? Okay? So we've established that justice type A.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: She's got me, she's got so much better. I'm so proud, Yeah,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: so much so proud. Like and I could tell you,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, okay, but I'm a learner too. I
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: love to learn, I love the develop I love to
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: stretch my my gift. I look like there's a fear
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: that's attached to it, but I'm gonna do it anyway.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Like even I think about the interaction we had with
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Omar at podcast Summit, which if shameless plug if your podcast,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: are thinking about doing a podcast or even just a
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: content creator, the space for you is podcast some in July,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the July second through the fourth. You want to get
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  Speaker 1: your tickets now before they sell out. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I was with.
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  Speaker 1: When we were with Omar, and basically he gave us
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  Speaker 1: our own private masterclass it. I went in my mind
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  Speaker 1: overlowly thinking, okay, he could because he's very endowed with
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: the analytics and understands, but he's also a holy spirit field.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I said, God, how can I be like that and
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: have a balance bring excellence to the table while making
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: room for you? And I think that as a creative
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: and then being prophetically inclined, that finding that balance is
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: probably the most frustrating part about this process. And I
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: think that when you say, hey, my obedience counts, I
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: think that what that what leveled me? Like, Okay, I
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: can I can think it's excellent. Like what we what
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I thought we were doing before with Omar, Before Omar's episode,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I thought it was good, you know what I'm saying.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: But somebody came and challenged certain things, and guess what,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: we didn't change everything. And it's it's on record. He
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: came for my desert Ray sal you know what I'm saying.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: He came our devil ray song. He'll like, you have
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  Speaker 1: to do that at the end. No, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna stay. But it's work. And I see that
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: because I put effort into understanding what he was saying.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: The excellence that God has called us to do in
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the creative lane in vain that God is called to do.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: It makes sense. But I think there's a balance of Okay,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm just obeying God. I'm just obeying God. But
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: obedience still has a level of excellence to it. You
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: can't just say often to throw something together. No you okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is so good, thank you Holy Spirit. I feel
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: like we need to be clear about something, desil Ray,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: when we talk about using what we have. When you
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: say that, how does how do you have excellence in
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: using what you have when you just have a phone
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: to record or certain how would you say people can
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: show excellence with just using what's in their hands. Simple.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: So when I began to step into this space of
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: producing podcasts, I ain't know nothing about no podcast nothing,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: but because you know, we're such a hey, you gotta
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: have this thing. You gotta have like you gotta have
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: like the best mics, you gotta have this, you gotta
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: have this lighting and all these things. That's what as
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: a as a creative and end that space already I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: oh Lord, I can't do this. I got to get
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: all the stuff. And the Lord was like, no, what's
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: in your hands. At the time, what was in my
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: hand was a ro roll wireless mic and a little
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: cannon M fifty camera and a lens. And I peak this,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: what was in your hands was way better than what
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: was on my hand. You and me, So whatever, we
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: started with what we had, you know what I'm saying,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: And and and in that ingratitude, you know what I'm saying,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: serving it. We used that little mic and them cameras
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: until the Lord blessed us to get the church mics.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: And we use the church mics until we got here,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: until I still got the church mics and church mic
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: so it's it's it's it's really like Lord, so the
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: book when it when they talk about unlock and King
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: of Creativity through prayer, it's really submission. Come on, it's
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: really a level of submission that we have to get
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: to that's automatic. Like even like you know, early on,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: like you know how you were like, oh, I'm learning this.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I'm learning that we can't we can't, we can't move
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: because you know, the background's got to be this. And
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, so what the Lord say? Like what
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: the lordlific by? What that mean? What I said that?
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: So they it won't go over their heads. So when
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  Speaker 1: we first started, like you know, we was a little
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: moving around. So I was in the studio, so we
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: had this backdrop and I was like, hey, let's move
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: over here. He's like, no, we got to keep the
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: backdrop the look of the podcast a certain way because
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: that's just how that's what you were learning in the
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: seven figure podcasts. I believe, And I said, oh, okay,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: but what the Lord say, Like a lot of times,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: like the thing when we talk about submission, there's nothing
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: wrong wrong with learning and get the education and sharpening
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: the skills that you have. But at the end of
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the day, when you understand that the Lord has called you,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: called you to a thing, you have to submit everything
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  Speaker 1: back to him. And that has to be like an
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: automatic response, even what you learn. Even what you learn,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, Lord, I've been in this class, I'm
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: learning all these things. What does that mean for me?
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Like show me out of this, like what what do
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I need to use? And the Lord be like, oh,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: boom boo boom, don't use this, take this out. I
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: want you to do this. And that's the us submission
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: that we have to get to. And when you can
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: be in that space, in that lane unapologetically, the outcome
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: is on the Lord like he literally he clearly. If
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: it says I know the plans that I have for you,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I been thinking sometimes I'll be like, Lord,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: why do we forget that? Like so easily forget? Like
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: if you already got the plan, why are we trying
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: to create our own plans? If we are if you
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the master plan? So it's kind of like, Okay, I
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: have a phone, right you're telling me to be I'm
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: a content creator, but all I got is a phone.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I don't have no fans of the camera or the
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Lord said, guess what the phone got a camera? When
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: you got got three cameras three? What's fe with you
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: using this? Babe? If you don't go to that window,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: what that light right there and tear your thing on
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: and say what I just told you to say and
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: release to the people. I'm on now, okay, rest to
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the people, because why would I trust you with this?
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: If I can't trust you with that? Why why? And
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: it's the same thing even as you're as we're building
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: you know, communities and things like that, and people are like,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: well only got five people, Well, why would I trust
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: you with the with the with the thousand people that
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I know that I see that I have coming to
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: you If I can't even trust you with these five, Like,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: if you can't be that to these people, why would
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I trust you? How could I trust you with that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's just using that
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: that's so good And even I'm I'm gonna call myself
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: out on that what you just said, How can I
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: trust you with this? And you're not doing that? Right?
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: So I got the opportunity to teach to teach the
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Seven Figure Podcast community. I teach every Wednesday, right, and
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: every Wednesday that In the beginning, I was just so nervous.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I was so worried about what people thought about me
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And then there was a shift
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: for me when I realized I was like, hold up,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. I don't do it their way,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: but I still know what I'm doing and I'm prophetically inclined.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna lean on the gift that God gave
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  Speaker 1: me and I'm gonna trust it, but I'm gonna be
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: strategic about it. Right, And so I said, I asked
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the Lord, I said, help me organize my thoughts, help
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: me organize what this makes sense? And I said, please
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: don't allow me to overlook what I've gotten comfortable with,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: like something like the flow of how we do things
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: recently we went through recently we went through how do
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: you start your how do you start your podcast? Like
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: what does your intro and tagline look like? Whatever? I
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: took those things for granted, Thank you Holy Spirit. Sometimes
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: we think will learn a thing, and we take what
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: we're learning for granted, not knowing that we have to
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: go back and say, hey, this is what you need
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: to do. This is how this is gonna help you
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: develop or whatever. And because I invested in those things,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: and because I've learned those things, I know how to
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: give people different options that work for themselves. And so
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I told the Lord, I said, hey, at the beginning
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: of the year, like I wrote down my goals or whatever,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I sent them to you, and one of those things
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: was to get more speaking, hosting and moderation opportunities. And
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with me asking for that. I had
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: to tell myself, it's nothing wrong for me be with
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: me seeing myself being a being on someone's stage helping
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: promote whatever they want to do. Because the Lord has
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: literally called me to that, I didn't ask for that.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, Okay, if I'm gonna do this, give
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: me these paid opportunities to do it, because my gifts
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: shall make room for me. I'm going back on the
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: word you gave me. So I felt a responsibility, although
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: you know I'm doing this every Wednesday, to take it
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and to take it seriously every time. Not that I
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: wasn't taking it serious, but I don't think I was
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: taking the full as as much responsibility or as serious
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: as I could take it. Because I was trying to
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: figure myself out. I didn't believe in myself or not
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: even gonna take it self sious. I wasn't taking myself serious.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't believe that I had the juice. I thought
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I always go well Dave said, and Dave this, and
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I would maybe Dave wouldn't want me to say that.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I would say that like I was like, now, like
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  Speaker 1: I can go. I ain't saying I can go toe
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: to to day, Dave, I love you. I wouldn't go
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: to tell total man, but I'll definitely have a conversation
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: or say, hey, that worked for him, but that didn't
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: work for me, Or that worked for me, but that
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: didn't work for him, and we would have a conversation.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I know he would honor that. You get what I'm saying, CJ, Carr,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: all of them. And now that I'm teaching the way
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I'm teaching and I'm doing more group activities, I'm like, Okay,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: what's the point of Wednesday nights. I'm being more strategic
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: about what the Lord has placed in my hands. Now
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I'm getting now because I'm taking myself seriously, I'm having
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: conversations like oh no, you heard, Like for my coach
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: shout out to jose Ben on my coach to tell me, oh, no,
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  Speaker 1: you got it. I ain't got no coreation for you,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: like you're natural for him to tell me that coming
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  Speaker 1: on a class and I'm ready to get you out.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I'm ready to get the law laid down on me.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: He was like, Nah, let's work on this. Let's work
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: on you pricing yourself right, because you pricing yourself wrong
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: right here. Like that's what we gotta work on, you
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so now, because I've taken
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: myself seriously, I make the room as already. It's not
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: even just being made for me. I'm being exposed to
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: a room that's been waiting for me. And sometimes we
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: get so disrupted by not having the perfect thing. But
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: you're not taking the thing that you have and making
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: it perfect. God Lee when the Lord released stuff that quick,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I have to sit on it, because sometimes we do
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: we like, oh I want the perfect thing. Don't make
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: the thing that you have perfect, use it to the
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: excellence of God. And I think that being created to
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: create is a position, not just a mandate. It's a position. Say, Okay,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I was created to create, so what do I have
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: to use for my creation. God used his voice and
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: his wisdom and his understanding and his relationship. If you
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: read the Bible and read it well, if you walk
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: the town, everything I just said is accurate. He used
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: to Trinity, God, the Father's Son, Holy Spirit. It was
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: in the beginning. If you go read it, he said,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: let us make man if our own image. Who is us?
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Go back to it if you want. If you want
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: to argue with me, I'm gonna bring my past on here.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: We got some argument apologetics on that. You get know
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But let's make let's make us in
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  Speaker 1: our own image. Let you know, let there be you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying there, There was a lot you
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: talk about that in the book as well. Just you
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: really like when I tell you walked that text in
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: this book. You want the preacher came out of you
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: in this book. And so my mindset now as a
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: creative is like, even just on that statement alone, my
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: obedience still counts to God. And even if I miss God,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: God has the power to cover me and what I missed, right,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: God has the power to cover me and my and
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: my quote unquote mistakes of mishaps. You give what I'm
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: saying because my heart posture was in the right place,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: and so that's what grace is for girl. I'm so
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  Speaker 1: proud of you. I'm so grateful for were you. I
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I'm thankful that you that you south fit to allow
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: yourself to write this and be obedient to God. Because
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, this girl's crazy. Why she in this program?
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't know it came with a book. So I'm
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: glad I didn't say that to you. I'm glad that
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: was discouraging you. I said to myself several times, Jesus,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: what was I thinking. But as as we do any
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: other guests desireate that Gil, I would like to give
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: you the final final say so, if anything sticks out
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: to you and you're gonna put that camera on yourself,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna put the camera on yourself and speak
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: to the people, okay, I would just say I think
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: the thing that I just keep thinking about it just
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: kind of goes back to a little bit of my testimony,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Like before I even knew I was gonna be here
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: at this point, when I was laying on that hospital
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: bed in February of twenty twenty one, not even knowing
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: if like I had to go back into don't even
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: know if I was gonna wake up again. Right when
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: my eyes opened, I said, Lord, the truth is, it
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: wasn't even the fear of dying. It was the fear
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: that I knew, like even though I had no idea
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: like fully what this meant or understand because I literally
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: just learned who the Holy Spirit was, the mother and foe. Okay,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: even though I didn't fully understand the magnitude and the
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: weight that the Lord had on my life, I knew
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I hadn't even touched it, right, So for me that
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: was my initial first yes, right, And so to walk
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: this thing out now and to be like I literally
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: oldest man in my life. So whatever He has given me,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: no matter how uncomfortable it is, I kick and scream
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: yes I do, like we all do. But my answer
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: is still gonna be yes, yeah, you know. And so
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: with that comes the weight and the responsibility of what
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: He's given you. So my hopes and my prayer is
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: as as people read the book, they begin to really
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: see themselves how God created them as creators and not
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: discounting themselves because their creativity doesn't look like somebody else's creativity.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: But the truth is he's giving you something that he
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: needs you to tap into because they're because you are
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: the solution to somebody's problem in this earth. Come on,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: And what I don't ever but I don't want to happen,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: is I have done all these things, right, I've done
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: all these things, and I get to get I get
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: to heaven. And the Lord was like, yeah, but I
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: gave you five things. What did you do with them?
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: What did you do with them? I don't want to
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: hear that conversation, Like, you've done all these other things. Yeah, great,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: because you were comfortable in those things. But these things
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: right here, I had somebody's life that was attached to
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: this that needed to hear what you had to say.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: They needed a thing that you had, and because of that,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: they never reached their potential because you were too afraid
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: to reach yours. That I don't want to happen. So
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I just encourage everybody just to to to if you
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: don't have the relationship with the Lord, even if you
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: don't even know what that looked like, even if you
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: don't know what that looked like, it's just a posture surrender, Like, Lord,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I got this thing. I think I got this thing
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: like I keep having these thoughts and these ideas. This
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: just like my stomach keeps bubbling over here on this side.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know what this is, but I'm gonna give
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: this to you, and I'm going to allow you to
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: show me what it is that you want me to
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: do on this earth. So good, amen, Amen, y'all give
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: it up for that girl desireate damn yea God. If
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: y'all listen, we will have the link in the chat
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: in the description so that you can purchase create it
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: to create unlocking the kingdom creativity. Yep, Unlocking Kingdom creativity
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: through prayer. Okay, it's a good read, quick read, but
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: we walked it slow. Okay, if you don't have a
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: community that you're attached to, just come over to the
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: safe space like it's real. It's real chill over there.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: But we do things intentionally. We go with God and
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: we structure it well. So just we love you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tune it in until next week.
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  Speaker 1: Until next time. Remember, life could be much more simple
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  Speaker 2: I know I won't see you back until next week,
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  Speaker 2: but until then, remember to love always yourself and always thank.
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  Speaker 3: Thank God for one another day. Hey, hey, I know
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: we could be another way. Hey, ray, thank God for
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: another day. Hey hey, I'm just thankful another day. Hey Hey,
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  Speaker 3: another day? Oh, another day wise, another day to get
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  Speaker 3: it right, another day to rise up, another day, live
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  Speaker 3: another day. We loved ones that I always remember. Hold
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