Latest / Terri Messenger's Genius Zone / Reclaiming Personal Power Through the Gut heart–Mind–Spirit Connection
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- 0:00Because she came to actually understand that she was locked
- 0:05into a belief. So can you explain to me how you
- 0:10actually can discern by people's language and that actually
- 0:16guides you as a consultant of this beautiful gut, heart, mind
- 0:22and spirit connection? Absolutely.
- 0:25In fact, I want to ask your permission, Terry, can I pick up
- 0:29on a phrase that you used a couple of times here?
- 0:33Please don't. OK, so you use the phrase that
- 0:37you were running from hyenas. Metaphor.
- 0:42Very powerful. Yes, and so for me I and
- 0:46especially when it came twice, it came more than once for me
- 0:50straight away when I hear that I think cross life.
- 0:55Oh, give us a month. There you go.
- 0:58And I got the shivers too. Like as soon as I said running
- 1:01from hyenas, I got shivers. And this is, I want to
- 1:04differentiate something here too, because like when I say
- 1:07that the emotional movement is complete, that you get chilled,
- 1:11I don't mean that sort of, I don't mean like the truth bumps
- 1:16feeling. That's a different thing of the
- 1:18clear sense. That was a clear sense.
- 1:21When you get the truth bumps, that's a clear sense.
- 1:23But when? So anyway, that's what here's.
- 1:27What? Is that and I'm just going to,
- 1:31I'm going to speak this and both of our bodies will give us the
- 1:35tell of whether it's true. Hey, and welcome, welcome to
- 1:47that genius zone. And Oh my gosh, you're not going
- 1:52to want to miss this because this lady here, she helped
- 1:59change the trajectory of my life as my husband was going through
- 2:08the dying fame. So this is a lady that believes
- 2:14exactly what the title and that is that there is a gut mind and
- 2:20spirit connection and everything is connected.
- 2:25So with no further ado, we give you the beautiful consultant of
- 2:31GOT Mind Spirit Connection, Holly Wazina.
- 2:35Hello, how are you, gorgeous lady?
- 2:37Oh, I am absolutely wonderful. And thank you so much for having
- 2:43me on your show this afternoon, Terry.
- 2:45It's I'm so excited to be here. Oh, I'm so thrilled you're here
- 2:52because this is like a huge integration for me.
- 2:54And I feel that as people get to listen in because we all suffer
- 3:00some kind of a trauma, some kind of a loss, some kind of a stress
- 3:04in our life. You just cannot get away from
- 3:07it. And I think so many of us just
- 3:09think it's in the head. It's what we've got in the head.
- 3:13I'm going to start off with the the embryo and the development
- 3:20of the embryo and what doctors couldn't differentiate between
- 3:27when they looked and studied it. Would you like to begin by
- 3:31opening it up so we can really preface your gut, mind and
- 3:37spirit connection? Absolutely.
- 3:39And just to clarify, I call it the gut, heart, mind, spirit
- 3:44connection because of course the mind and the heart and we in in
- 3:48some cultures they're the same in a sense.
- 3:51And in other cultures like ours, a lot of times we feel there's a
- 3:54differentiation between the mind and the emotions.
- 3:57So yeah, it's very important to include the heart and that as
- 4:01well. And yeah, let's talk about that.
- 4:04And I just learned this recently that at a certain point in our
- 4:09development as embryos, there is there are two masses and one of
- 4:18them becomes the brain, one of them becomes the gut.
- 4:21But there's a point where they're not able to distinguish
- 4:24between the two yet in the development of the embryo.
- 4:29And so when they say that the gut is the second brain, it is
- 4:33actually one and the same as the first brain.
- 4:37The two of them are intimately connected.
- 4:42That is phenomenal. Now, I have definitely heard gut
- 4:48brain and we know that we have an intuition.
- 4:51And I wonder if that is what they mean with the gut instinct,
- 4:57because sometimes when you're making a decision about
- 5:01something, you can get lost in your head and you can overstink
- 5:06and then everything gets really muddied.
- 5:09And then you could go for a run, or you could go for a stroll, or
- 5:12you could go for a walk. Or you could just be in the
- 5:15moment. And then that's when you get
- 5:19these light bulb moments because you've suddenly moved into your
- 5:23physicality. Do you believe that to be true?
- 5:26Volley. 100 percent, 100%, If you want to get out of the mind,
- 5:33move the body, that's something that will take you into the body
- 5:40and then you can go from there. And absolutely, when you're
- 5:43talking about those gut instincts, this is something
- 5:46that's really more and more important in our society than
- 5:51it's ever been is those Claire senses.
- 5:56So that gut sense, that is one of the Claire senses, that gut
- 6:01instinct, it's called Claire gostins.
- 6:04So I believe that we run our entire spirit.
- 6:09We are embodied spirit. And I believe so formally that
- 6:13at this point in our development as humans, we're there's so many
- 6:18of us have got a great deal of spiritual development right now.
- 6:22But if we are not embodying that development, that's when our
- 6:28yeah, we just, we're, there's just more work to do.
- 6:31There's always more work to do. Well, we're fragmented.
- 6:35That's what I know to be true. This way you are an integration
- 6:41queen. And we'll go further and deeper
- 6:44into my story of my husband was in the dying phase when I met
- 6:49you. I'm seeing your aura now.
- 6:51I've just got these. So it's yes, spirits telling me
- 6:55right now that this was an incredible peace to the puzzle
- 6:59for me because so many people are shocked at how well I've
- 7:03transitioned through the process.
- 7:06I just can't Unsee that aura. I know I'm just saying it as I'm
- 7:10speaking here, but this is the absolute truth.
- 7:13Your aura is just phenomenal, and I've just got goosebumps all
- 7:18over. Maybe Ian is present here, but
- 7:20of course, when he passed away, the fact that I was able to
- 7:24integrate, you are the integration queen.
- 7:28And I know that I was probably very fragmented.
- 7:31And when I look back, even through a lot of my own personal
- 7:35resources, I can't help feeling that I've been fragmented
- 7:42unknowingly for such a long time.
- 7:44But I've had resources to combat, which has been a
- 7:49Band-Aid, and I really feel that what you have done has unwound
- 7:55so much stuff. So I'm going to get into that
- 7:57now so you can teach our audience about it.
- 8:00You're not going to want to go away because at the end, Holly
- 8:04is going to be actually giving us a beautiful experiential
- 8:10element of some of the work she does.
- 8:11So stay tuned. But let's talk about the
- 8:14unwinding through our beliefs, the ancestral lineage and
- 8:21embodiment. Would you like to take that
- 8:24away? Absolutely.
- 8:26And so let's just start with this again.
- 8:29We've already established that we are we are spirit in a body
- 8:34and that we're meant to be embodied.
- 8:37And yet we're also a culmination of all of our experiences in
- 8:42this lifetime. Studies have shown
- 8:45scientifically that when we like our DNA, whenever there's
- 8:52something that occurs for us in our genetic line, that is
- 8:58something that gets imprinted on the DNA.
- 9:01And I want to be clear, In fact, it's interesting because
- 9:04somebody was talking about like adna imprint.
- 9:09And I was just like, but wait a minute, that's like I in a way,
- 9:13I don't even like that language because it sounds permanent.
- 9:18It is not. Yeah, we can change our DNA.
- 9:24We can also change our genetic expression.
- 9:28And however, when we've got those experiences that come
- 9:32through the genetic line, and let's even come back to that
- 9:36embryo image for a moment too, where and maybe by now many of
- 9:42us have seen this image where, you know, when your grandmother
- 9:45is carrying your mother and your mother is developing, her body's
- 9:51developing in your grandmother's womb, her uterus and ovaries are
- 9:58developing inside and the aches are developing inside of.
- 10:04So we've been carried by both of our grandmothers and our
- 10:08mothers. And so whatever experience they
- 10:11were experiencing at that time, whatever emotions, whatever
- 10:14cocktail of their gut Biome, all of that, we are assimilating all
- 10:21of that. Oh my God.
- 10:24Grandmother. So as the I had heard of the
- 10:28grandmother there being in the embryo and I didn't understand
- 10:34that a lot. But when you think of it, it's a
- 10:36heavy kind of responsibility because now we're talking about
- 10:40not one generation of how our own mother was going through
- 10:44that pregnancy, but now it's reflective about rat lovers as
- 10:47well. It is, and I've heard people say
- 10:50it's not exactly like that, but it's pretty close.
- 10:53And studies have shown, say in rat for example, that if a rat
- 10:59is traumatized, then that's something that expresses itself
- 11:04through up to 14 generations where they can still see a
- 11:09trauma response 14 generations later.
- 11:12More Asians later and we're going to get into a little bit
- 11:16about how Polly does help untangle that.
- 11:20So it's perhaps teach on the untangling or the unwinding and
- 11:25then we'll go into and go even deeper.
- 11:29Yeah, so there there's a couple of things.
- 11:30So for me, I've done a lot of work with yoga.
- 11:35That's one of my genres, if you will, and a lot of work with
- 11:40Ireland. Yeah.
- 11:41And so there's all of that stuff on the physical and the
- 11:45physiological plane. But of course we know that yoga
- 11:48works on the fascia as well. So if you don't know what fascia
- 11:53is, it's the in fact, we're born into fascia, right?
- 11:57Like when we talked earlier about that the gut and the brain
- 12:00that's all within a like a fascia stack in a sense.
- 12:06And then that fascia, like we develop inside that fascia and
- 12:09through that fascia around that fascia.
- 12:12And so we when we're doing yoga, then we work with the fascia
- 12:17layers and I'm we were Terry, you and I were speaking earlier
- 12:21about how I'm using even more modalities about address that
- 12:26fascial there, because that's how think about it.
- 12:31That's the part that it in the mother from the very beginning
- 12:34is that fascia. That's and like all of the
- 12:38beliefs of the mother are in there too.
- 12:40And for that matter, to some degree, obviously the father as
- 12:43well. So we have all and then also in
- 12:47the psychic. Levels.
- 12:49Yeah. So of course in in our culture,
- 12:53we make much of the lineage like the maternal lineage, which
- 12:57rightfully, but I know for myself there's been much come
- 13:00through my paternal lineage as well and through my paternal.
- 13:05Wow, that's incredible. So you also talk about how the
- 13:11guts, as the original brain, the center, is the center of
- 13:16personal power. And this is a big one because
- 13:20this is something I had noticed had formed for me since our
- 13:26session. So I am going to give you some
- 13:30glory here. I feel that everything is divine
- 13:33intervention. However, I do have to say that
- 13:38since our session, what I had experienced is Oh my gosh, a
- 13:44total turn up of intuition. Although when my husband did
- 13:49pass, it was like there was an impartation.
- 13:53The veil had lifted. So my intuition woke up a lot.
- 13:59However, I started to sense my intuition really expanding after
- 14:04our session. But there's something else that
- 14:06happened as well, which I had a big problem with, and I've
- 14:10noticed it has corrected. And maybe you can bring some
- 14:13what I call conscious competency around this.
- 14:17And that is that all of a sudden I began to form some boundaries.
- 14:24Now, boundaries have been a really big challenge for me for
- 14:30most of my life, and I want you to just unpack how all of this
- 14:38work, this beautiful work that you do, does come back to
- 14:42empowering us and helping with intuition and boundary.
- 14:48Oh, wonderful. That's a great question.
- 14:51And let's start with this because I'm sure your audience
- 14:54knows about the chakra system. And so that solar plexus that
- 15:00is, is in, it's just below the xiphoid process in your rib
- 15:04cage, like between the xiphoid process and the belly button,
- 15:07that would be the solar plexus that is your power center.
- 15:12That is where we form boundaries.
- 15:15And not surprisingly, and not coincidentally, that's also
- 15:20where the gut resides. And so this is, and I've, it's
- 15:26something that I work with my clients in on, on so many
- 15:30different levels, boundaries. Because I can say as an example,
- 15:34I had a client who one of when I asked her like, what bad things
- 15:39would happen if you were to heal, right?
- 15:41Because we have to look at those things.
- 15:43And the answer was if I were to heal, I think my husband would
- 15:48just want me to keep the house a lot cleaner.
- 15:52So if she were to get her. So I was just like, Oh my
- 15:55goodness, we've got to, we've got to transform this because so
- 16:01she didn't have the ability to set boundaries with her husband
- 16:04and say, actually, my energy is for me, it's not for you.
- 16:10And how many people you I can say myself at one point in my
- 16:14programming, I used illness and getting sick as a way of setting
- 16:19boundaries, as a way of saying I can't do that.
- 16:23Oh my gosh, that's phenomenal. You know what?
- 16:26You know when people are sick or when they are addicted or when
- 16:31they are caught up in sabotaging patterns.
- 16:35And what you've just done is given a very strong explanation
- 16:39to what I say in short, which is what is the higher premise?
- 16:43You're doing this. And a lot of people really
- 16:46struggle with the concept that they are actually locked into a
- 16:52sabotaging pattern because their subconscious brain feels safe.
- 17:00And you've just nailed it. Well, and as in the embodied
- 17:04vision work that I do, we have to take a look at all of the
- 17:09fears that are running that pattern.
- 17:12And then we have to take a look at the gifts that are in that
- 17:16pattern too. And we do that not just from the
- 17:20conscious mind. We call up on the subconscious
- 17:23to reveal it's what whatever it's got going, because if we
- 17:28just work with the conscious mind, that's only 5% of the of
- 17:34our whole mind, that's only 5% of the directive for us.
- 17:39And so we have to, we can't just left brain our way through these
- 17:42things. We have to incorporate the
- 17:45subconscious and enlist it, make it feel safe enough that it can
- 17:50reveal itself as to like, why am I setting bound?
- 17:54Why am I not setting boundaries? But of course, if there's if
- 17:58there's something, if there's a relationship issue, then 11
- 18:02might be afraid of what's going to happen if that husband, for
- 18:05example, would say what, you're not cleaning my house, there's
- 18:09going to be a confrontation there, right?
- 18:13On You know what, my brain is clicking back to a mother when
- 18:18my kids are in school who spent 90% of her life on the couch in
- 18:25agony with her back and she was the best delegator I'd ever met
- 18:30in my entire life. And it's funny how we snap into
- 18:34action when there was something fun and adventurous happening.
- 18:39But when it came to a lot of the day-to-day tasks, her family had
- 18:45to become extremely competent. And I recognized that her back
- 18:52and the pain she was having was serving her.
- 18:56And you don't dare say it unless they are giving permission and
- 19:01you're going through a session to go.
- 19:04What is the purpose this is happening.
- 19:07And look, Speaking of the unwinding and the unraveling and
- 19:11getting to the bottom of it through belief change and
- 19:15looking at those belief concepts, you were talking to me
- 19:18backstage about the human garage and the organ unwinding.
- 19:23Would you like to just enlighten me on this human garage thing?
- 19:27Because I'm really interested and I know it's something new.
- 19:30That's come out. Yeah, it's it's new to me
- 19:34anyway. And I've been using it to help
- 19:38unwind a pattern that I have going in my body or that I'm
- 19:41working with right now. But what it does is it unwinds
- 19:46the fascia layers. And of course this is one of the
- 19:49things that and I can't see that it's human garage that says
- 19:52this. Maybe they do.
- 19:54But the body is a manifestation of the subconscious mind.
- 20:00And so as we unwind. Those physical patterns, a lot
- 20:05of times the subconscious beliefs will come up and out at
- 20:08the same time. So one of the things that, and
- 20:10people say this in the yoga system and for sure I've had it
- 20:14happen with clients and gutsy yoga as well.
- 20:16But in working with this human garage with a myofascial
- 20:20unwinding work that I've been doing with that, it's not
- 20:23unusual that a pattern will will release and that it will result
- 20:30in tears. You'll have, you'll have a
- 20:33little tricep. And then whether that's again,
- 20:35whether that's in a yoga or had it happen in a yoga context or
- 20:40in the human garage context where you know, just somewhere
- 20:45out of the blue, all of a sudden you're crying for some reason,
- 20:47you don't understand what it is. And I always to again, whatever
- 20:52context that shows up and you don't have to go digging for
- 20:56what that is. If the tears are there, it's
- 20:59because your body is releasing it.
- 21:02You don't have to know. You don't have to understand.
- 21:05The only thing you need to do is stay present with it and give
- 21:10that emotion it's room to move and give it your attention and
- 21:15when it it'll complete itself. One of the ways that you can
- 21:19know that it has completed itself is after you may have
- 21:25noticed after our session to maybe you felt very chilly.
- 21:31You know what, I cannot remember how I felt, only that there was
- 21:37a massive shift. And when we're doing the
- 21:41timeline, it's interesting with my own grief how it has all
- 21:46unravelled and I cannot even thank you enough because I had
- 21:52been in fight flight mode, totally advocating for my
- 21:58husband for so long. It was so painful.
- 22:02It was also frustrating because we didn't know.
- 22:05Now I don't even know that at the point that you and I had
- 22:09been going through this session together, also in uni is that I
- 22:14was running from hyena, but my subconscious was literally
- 22:18running from hyena. So coming into this space with
- 22:24uni helped me ground and integrate and I'm just having
- 22:30chills again as I'm saying this. And you know what?
- 22:34God only knows Polly that I so needed that because if I thought
- 22:40that the worst had come, the worst was yet to come at that
- 22:45point. And yet I was so equipped
- 22:50because of, and I know that I'm getting signs with the chills
- 22:55now, which is telling me that the work you did was so powerful
- 23:01and I thank God for that. And it was probably around 8
- 23:06weeks later he was officially diagnosed without always fatal
- 23:13disease that I know I would not have coped with.
- 23:16He then went into the dying phrase and I know I wouldn't
- 23:20have coped with that either. And then after he passed away, I
- 23:25had to literally organize a funeral and all of the elements
- 23:32amongst the great and amongst all of this.
- 23:34And you've got no idea how incredibly powerful it was
- 23:42because I was able to transition through all of that.
- 23:46And I'm a really bad integrator and this has always been my
- 23:50weakness. So the fact that you helped me
- 23:53to integrate everything caused me to be more present.
- 23:59So I want to ask you this question if there is someone out
- 24:02there, I am sharing my own personal stories here.
- 24:07And it's a story about high stress where you have to keep
- 24:11going, though it doesn't take you down into a a depression
- 24:16phase. And I feel that if I hadn't had
- 24:19that session with you as well, I probably would have gone from
- 24:23black flight, running from hyenas into this kind of a dark
- 24:29rabbit hole of depression. And I want you to perhaps help
- 24:36share to the audience if someone is in that phase of depression
- 24:43or they're locked into their reality, what would be the first
- 24:48thing that you would do or ask them to help shift the needle?
- 24:56What are some of the beautiful questions you would ask?
- 24:59This is, it's so interesting that you ask this because one of
- 25:04the things that I do as a practitioner is I ask questions
- 25:10in that meditative space or in that space of inquiry that says
- 25:14what actually is going on in this situation.
- 25:17And so one of the questions that I asked very recently actually
- 25:21is what is the difference between a like a nervous system
- 25:25Free State and depression? And so far what I've come up
- 25:32with is that as a conclusion, which there may be more of that
- 25:36comes in, but what showed up for me recently about this was that
- 25:41the only difference between a depression and a Free State is
- 25:44that in a Free State, you allow that experience and you honor
- 25:51that experience, which means that you can move through it.
- 25:55A depression is where you disallow it and then persists.
- 26:00Wow. That that that's that may not be
- 26:04the all of it in every situation, but that was so one
- 26:10of the things, one of the things that I always love to look at is
- 26:14number one, what can be honored in this state?
- 26:20Like where are you fighting? What's happening for you right
- 26:23now? And is there a way that you can
- 26:27honor that are not even asked? Is there a way just what would
- 26:30happen if you were to honor this state?
- 26:32And in fact, that would be again, that that line of
- 26:36questioning around the fears and the gifts.
- 26:38If you were to honor this state, what's the worst thing that
- 26:40would happen? It's take all the fears, release
- 26:43those and what are the gifts? What are the good things that
- 26:48have happened from being in this state?
- 26:50Wow, that's that. That's incredible.
- 26:53That's incredible. I feel that you imparted such a
- 26:57gift to me. And I was riding my ebook the
- 27:00other day and I suddenly met with a lady.
- 27:02It was first thing in the morning.
- 27:03And I don't particularly like to interact fully in the morning
- 27:08because I like to unwind and just have my meditative state.
- 27:12And this lady didn't strike me as a real socialite, but she
- 27:18just started to talk to me. And that conversation LED into,
- 27:24I noticed that because I know that this actually is something
- 27:27that you do. You pick up people's language
- 27:31and you can discern their beliefs through their language.
- 27:36I'm going to throw it over to you in a moment, but I'm going
- 27:39to just share that I kept hearing this lady.
- 27:42Now, if she said it once or maybe even twice, I wouldn't
- 27:45have thought much of it. I would have just gone and might
- 27:47have been able to take it in a a very holistic, spiritual way.
- 27:52But because she'd said it over and over again, I'm like, oh,
- 27:58what is she truly believing about this?
- 28:00And what she was saying was tomorrow's not promised,
- 28:04Tomorrow's not promised. And she kept saying it so she
- 28:08would, she said it about four or five times.
- 28:11And I understand that tomorrow's not promised.
- 28:13And I also on that it's great to live as if we are in the
- 28:17present. But what she went on to say is
- 28:20that she was having this head ache on one side of their head.
- 28:25And I got to know that. Then I just started to ask her
- 28:30some questions. What does that feel like?
- 28:32And when did you notice that started?
- 28:35And look, I wasn't going to go into a conversation with her,
- 28:38but suddenly Ian, his presence suddenly was all around me and I
- 28:43remembered how generous he was. Like yourself only just so being
- 28:47in his service. And I started to ask her these
- 28:51right questions. Do you know that her life
- 28:53changed because of those questions?
- 28:55Because she came to actually understand that she was locked
- 29:00into a belief. So can you explain to me how you
- 29:05actually can discern by people's language and that actually
- 29:12guides you as a consultant of this beautiful gut, heart, mind
- 29:18and spirit connection? Absolutely.
- 29:21In fact, I want to ask your permission, Terry, can I pick up
- 29:25on a phrase that you used a couple of times here?
- 29:29Please don't. OK, so you use the phrase that
- 29:33you were running from hyenas, Yes.
- 29:40And so for me, I and especially when it came twice, it came more
- 29:43than once. And for me, straight away when I
- 29:47hear that, I think first life. Oh, give us a month.
- 29:53There you go. And I got the shivers too.
- 29:55Like as soon as I said running from hyenas, I got shivers.
- 29:58And this is I want to differentiate something here
- 30:01too, because like when I say that the emotional movement is
- 30:05complete, that you get. Chilled, I don't.
- 30:08Need that sort of. I don't mean like the truth
- 30:10bumps feeling. That's a different thing of the
- 30:13clear sense. That was a clear sense.
- 30:17When you get the truth bumps, that's a clear sense.
- 30:19But when? So anyway, that's what here's
- 30:22what is that and I'm just going to I'm going to speak this and
- 30:29both of our bodies will give us the tell of whether it's true
- 30:33that. Belief.
- 30:35Has actually already moved, even though we didn't work on it
- 30:39specifically. Yes, yeah.
- 30:43And something, it was a really, it's a really good way of
- 30:47describing the body physicality then of what I was feeling
- 30:55throughout the majority of that time.
- 30:58And admittedly, I came to this space of being very grounded and
- 31:05very present. And I feel that I did have that
- 31:09gift of being very present with him because I spent so much time
- 31:14that this was a different presence.
- 31:16And I, you just clicked me back to another metaphor or something
- 31:21that had happened. And what would work down in the
- 31:23session is that somehow, or rather as you were going deeper
- 31:29into my belief system, there was this element of being buried.
- 31:34Understand. And first of all, it was like,
- 31:39is it buried Like, I know, sorry, trigger warning here, a
- 31:42line. But then it turned out that I
- 31:47had gone back into one of my ancestors and I didn't know
- 31:52where it was going. And I was at war.
- 31:56And in actual fact, I was buried under the sand.
- 32:00And then there was that sense of isolation.
- 32:03And then, and as you were taking me through the whole process,
- 32:07you were going down through the layers, down deeper and deeper.
- 32:12And I guess this is where all of that old belief system is
- 32:17located. And then ancestral biology of
- 32:23memory. And of course that's when.
- 32:26And you weren't going to stop at anything.
- 32:28I thought, oh, we found it. We found it.
- 32:30And you were like, no, we just had to no and and you did not.
- 32:38You did. Not And then I thought, my gosh,
- 32:41that was so massive. I didn't think we needed to go
- 32:46any deeper, but the fact that you untangled that and you
- 32:51located that and it's not, you didn't tell me anything.
- 32:55You were facilitating it and this is the kind of work that
- 33:00you do. So I will just do a quick
- 33:03information that if you are looking to actually see this
- 33:09beautiful lady, please go to our show nights.
- 33:12You can contact Holly and really go deep.
- 33:16I can tell you right here and now my experience was absolutely
- 33:20phenomenal and it was life changing and I am so grateful.
- 33:26However, let's get back to it because we are going to go into
- 33:30one of your modalities very soon.
- 33:33So what is the decision maker do you think?
- 33:37Is it that the gut is the protector, laundry sitter,
- 33:42decision maker? Or is it the mind?
- 33:45It depends on where you're working from.
- 33:51You give the, Here's The thing is that the mind, like the
- 33:57conscious mind is really, like we said earlier, it's only 5% of
- 34:02the entire mind. But if you're trying to run 100%
- 34:06of your life through that 5%, it's very stressful.
- 34:10And then that stress is going to manifest in your body.
- 34:13It's going to manifest in your gut.
- 34:16And I think every one of us has had the experience of doing
- 34:18that. We wouldn't be human if we
- 34:20hadn't, right? But as you learn to trust the
- 34:27rest of your being, as you learn to trust your gut, as you learn
- 34:30to trust those other clear senses, then you know then they
- 34:35can start to have a greater voice as well.
- 34:39Wow and I remember learning that too, that the subconscious mind
- 34:44is like the whole room for example, and then the conscious
- 34:49mind is only that much. So no wonder people get so
- 34:53overwhelmed by overthinking and getting stuck into that that
- 35:00situation. My goodness.
- 35:02Now, can you take us through the Shark Rd.
- 35:05Because I heard you say at the beginning, a lot of the people
- 35:09will understand. But I don't really think that
- 35:12everyone, especially when we go to radio, they will be radio
- 35:16listeners that go, oh, Shark roads, what's this lady talking
- 35:20about? So would you take us?
- 35:23Could you take us through the Shark Rd.
- 35:25Sure, I'll talk about the seven main chakras.
- 35:30There are other ones too, but I'll just I'll start with the
- 35:33root chakra. So the root chakra and there are
- 35:36a number of different systems that say several different
- 35:39things, so I'll explain quickly. The root chakra is all about
- 35:44tribal consciousness and from an Ayurvedic perspective, So
- 35:49Ayurveda is the the like the east, the ancient East Indian
- 35:54naturopathic system that goes alongside yoga prepares the body
- 35:59for the Enlightenment that the yoga system promises.
- 36:02So we have to upgrade our system in order to run that through,
- 36:06like in order to run that enlightenment through our
- 36:08physical body, otherwise we basically blow our circuits.
- 36:13So with the Ayurvedic system, it's based on the principles of
- 36:16the five sacred elements of earth, water, fire, air, and
- 36:20ether. And so the root chakra
- 36:24corresponds to the Earth element.
- 36:27And when we're feeling that we're grounded, that you've used
- 36:31so many times so beautifully, that is when you're connected
- 36:35with that sense of earth and where there's that give and take
- 36:38with the earth. And that we actually will as a
- 36:41humanity, the more of us, as more and more of us become truly
- 36:47connected with that earth element, we will stop ruining
- 36:50the earth, right, when we're really and truly grounded in
- 36:55Root. And then, yeah, isn't that
- 36:58something? And then the sacral chakra that
- 37:02is, it's the creative center. It's the relationship chakra.
- 37:06It's like a partner partnership chakra.
- 37:10It is, it's related to money, it's related to abundance.
- 37:15It's and it's also related to in.
- 37:18And sometimes it's certain context, we even refer to it as
- 37:21the water chakra. And again, when we get into that
- 37:26sense of flow with that second chakra, we no longer willing to
- 37:32collute the waters, we will know that we no longer because our
- 37:39whole, our whole body is depending on who you talk to,
- 37:43anywhere between 60 to 80% water.
- 37:46Yes. And we are constantly taking
- 37:50water into our some either by drinking it or through our skin
- 37:54constantly, like sweating it out and peeing it out.
- 37:57And we're actually one our whole.
- 38:00Just the same way as the oceans are constantly evaporating and
- 38:04being rained into again, the rivers and streams are
- 38:07constantly being evaporated and rained into again.
- 38:12And so we're actually a part of that water system that is again
- 38:18on our planet. The solar plexus is the fire
- 38:22chakra and in the Ayurvedic system.
- 38:25So in outside of the Ayurvedic, I mentioned that it's your power
- 38:29source. In Ayurveda we understand we
- 38:32there's actually a special word to describe the digestive fire,
- 38:36which is called agni and there were several kinds of them.
- 38:40It relates to breaking down and processing food.
- 38:43And we think about how that happens, what happens through
- 38:48the like, we basically are sorting out the parsing out
- 38:52list. This is these are the nutrients,
- 38:54these are the fats, these are the waste, and they all go to
- 38:56wherever they're supposed to go. But we also do that.
- 38:59There's another type of agne that does that with our life
- 39:03experience where we again, get rid of the fears, release those
- 39:08they're waste and then accept the gifts.
- 39:11Those are the nutrients. And Speaking of wheat, you talk
- 39:15about digesting Lye and I, I think that's a huge piece of
- 39:21integration as well. It was for me.
- 39:24So digesting like not just food and restoring authority without
- 39:30force. Is that part of what you're
- 39:33talking about as well? 100 percent, 100%, because you
- 39:37know what it's like when you have a broken heart and you
- 39:42can't? You cannot eat anything.
- 39:45Oh yeah, You know what that feels like?
- 39:47Every one of us does. Every one of us has had that
- 39:49experience. If you haven't had that
- 39:51experience, wait for the rest of life.
- 39:53What was the only thing? That was the one thing that I
- 39:57noticed. It's like everything else was
- 40:00working, functioning after and passed.
- 40:04I couldn't eat and that's restored and it did restore very
- 40:09quickly. But yeah, it's like, you see
- 40:11that happened to animals as well.
- 40:13Animals when they get really. Upset an animal, a dog
- 40:18especially, I've seen they they just go off their food and
- 40:21something terribly wrong, especially if they've got like a
- 40:24healthy appetite. Absolutely, absolutely.
- 40:28And then and then if we continue on through the heart, the heart
- 40:32is the air chakra. It's one that when it's fully
- 40:37in, when it's, I'm going to say when it's fully online.
- 40:41And I love Caroline Mace's mantra that goes with it, which
- 40:45is that love is divine power. And when that heart chakra is
- 40:48fully online, it will continue to expand and continue to make
- 40:53space for whatever comes. There's always room.
- 40:58In fact, a question that one can ask, is there room for this too?
- 41:05And the answer is always yes. The answer to that is always yes
- 41:11and yes. And so important to this notion
- 41:16of heart coherence in I haven't had this experience, but I've
- 41:22heard that in India, many people like in Western culture, if we
- 41:27talk about the mind, we refer to the mind as in the brain.
- 41:31In India, apparently, if you refer to the mind, they put
- 41:34their hand on their heart. Well, yeah, yeah.
- 41:43Because they're. Yes, because they're tuning in.
- 41:46Because they're tuning into that deep mind, that heart centered
- 41:50mind and that heart coherence. And then that brings us to this
- 41:55throat char crow, which is the it's the voice.
- 41:59It's and it's also where we surrender to the divine.
- 42:06And you know this as a podcaster, because you know that
- 42:09you don't control. I don't control what is like the
- 42:14content that's coming forth on this podcast.
- 42:16This is very much a turning this over to divine will and say, OK,
- 42:20what needs to be said here? And that's and that is something
- 42:26so that and that's the ether. It's an ether chakra, right?
- 42:30When it's functioning properly, we pick up on like the radio set
- 42:36as it were in the ether, and then they come out our mouth.
- 42:39We bring them in that station and into speech and then isn't
- 42:46it? And then the third eye, this is
- 42:49the space between the eyebrows. This is also an ether chakra and
- 42:57actually this is something that very much with the ancient
- 43:01Egyptians knew that with the third eye like that sound like
- 43:05the eye of Horus. How did they know that if you
- 43:08dissect or that if you take a cross section of the pineal
- 43:12gland that it looks like the eye of Horus?
- 43:16And yeah, so that's the third eye.
- 43:18And the third eye, when it's very confused, I've seen this
- 43:23with myself as well, that at times that third eye, it's like
- 43:26rambles. And then when it clears out and
- 43:30then I can have my the actual proper thoughts that are
- 43:35truthful and not deluded, then that's when that third eye is
- 43:41functioning properly. A really important thing to know
- 43:43about the third eye as well is that there's a construct that
- 43:48happened where we connect with the people around us.
- 43:52So we've all heard the statement that you become the top five
- 43:56people you spend the most time with.
- 43:58That's a function of the third eye that we naturally, we
- 44:03naturally start to take on the ideas of who and what is around
- 44:07us. And one of the things that I
- 44:09think is very important in terms of our own sovereignty is that
- 44:13we also start to recognize that the top five people we spend the
- 44:18most time with, they're also going to become US.
- 44:22And So what example do I want to set and do I perhaps I'm going
- 44:27to make the decision and about what is going to be the dominant
- 44:31and most pervasive concept in the field, right.
- 44:35So we can as we become stronger and do that not from a position
- 44:39of our own personal will, but that we do that from a position
- 44:43of of truth, of highest truth. And then lastly is the crown
- 44:50chakra, at least in the, in the seven chakras, there's actually
- 44:52more than 7. But in the crown chakra, this
- 44:55is, it's, I think of it as being like a funnel, right?
- 44:58And the funnel is, it's coming from divine consciousness.
- 45:02It's also the Caroline Mason's mantra for that which I
- 45:06absolutely love is be here now in this moment or be here in
- 45:11this moment. It's much about presence.
- 45:15And, and again, it's very ethereal, yeah.
- 45:20Holly, I just want to say I I've lost my camera.
- 45:23Can you hear me? I can hear you, just I'm sharing
- 45:26the cuts and. What I'm going to do is we are
- 45:29going to close the show with your beautiful modality, but I
- 45:34just want to thank you so much. You have just been a light in my
- 45:39life and for whatever reason we have blown up technology today.
- 45:45I can assure you it is that this is very powerful.
- 45:49So I just want to influencing just hand over to you for that
- 45:54modality that we've promised and I want to thank you so much for
- 45:58coming on to the show. Oh, Terry, it is absolutely my
- 46:02pleasure to be here and everything that you said about
- 46:07me back at you, sister. I just love, love being in your
- 46:12presence. So the modality that I want to
- 46:16or the tool that I want to share with you today is one that came
- 46:20through my yoga lineage. And that lineage is by means of
- 46:26Swami Radha. So I many of my yoga mentors
- 46:29studied with her and she's got this beautiful divine light
- 46:34invocation. It can be done as like a
- 46:37physical practice or as a mantra.
- 46:40Today I'm going to share it as a mantra, and so I want to invite
- 46:44you to just go inside, close your eyes, and repeat after me.
- 46:52I am created by divine light. I am sustained by divine light.
- 47:02I am protected by divine light. I am surrounded by divine light.
- 47:12I am ever growing into divine light.
- 47:16And since there's more than one of us here, we'll do the we
- 47:20version of that as well. So repeat after me.
- 47:24We are created by divine light. We are sustained by divine
- 47:29light. We are protected by divine
- 47:34light. We are surrounded by divine
- 47:39light. We are ever growing into divine
- 47:45light. And then the next part of it is
- 47:49every cell of this my physical body is filled with divine
- 47:56light. Every level of consciousness is
- 48:03illumined by divine light. Divine light permeates every
- 48:12cell of my body, every level of consciousness.
- 48:19I've become a channel of pure light.
- 48:24I am one with the light. And so how can you use this?
- 48:32One of the ways you can use it. One of the ways I use it when
- 48:35I'm about to do a gutsy teach a gutsy yoga class, or if I'm
- 48:40about to do an embodied vision session with someone or I'm
- 48:44about to teach a group program, I do that invocation every
- 48:47single time as I open the space, and then I always clear and
- 48:54close the space once the session is complete.
- 48:56I actually did the divine Light invocation before Terry and I
- 48:59hopped onto this beautiful program.
- 49:02The other thing is I do it last thing before I sleep.
- 49:06I do it first thing every morning when I wake up.
- 49:09It is so clear and present to my consciousness.
- 49:13Anytime there is a person you're concerned about, you can do the
- 49:18divine light invocation and put that person into the light.
- 49:21Imagine that they're also in that bubble of light with you.
- 49:25And one quick caution is never, ever put someone else in the
- 49:29light without putting yourself also in the light.
- 49:32So that's what I'd love to share.
- 49:34Thank you so much for for listening until the end and for
- 49:39hosting this theory. It's just.
- 49:41Thank you so much, Holly. And remember guys, all Holly's
- 49:46details are in the show notes. That's it for our show tonight,
- 49:51our incredible show, The Genius Zone.
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