Latest / Tony Katz | Popcorn Moment / Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson is truly ridiculous
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- 1:37Speaker 1: The popcorn moment, let's go, let's go.
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- 1:42Speaker 2: hear to believe. Then grab your popcorn because there is more.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Gonna write myself a little note right there.
- 1:49Speaker 1: Uh, there's a case in front of the Supreme Court
- 1:54Speaker 1: got argued yesterday, and it's really a question about whether
- 1:58Speaker 1: or not the president can fire whomever the president chooses
- 2:01Speaker 1: to fire, which is a weird thing. Why can't the
- 2:04Speaker 1: president fire people because this agency class that we've created,
- 2:09Speaker 1: this pseudo fourth branch of government, which no one should
- 2:12Speaker 1: be in favor of the rules could lead themselves to believe,
- 2:19Speaker 1: lead one to believe that they cannot be replaced by
- 2:25Speaker 1: an executive action, that the president can't simply say you
- 2:30Speaker 1: work for me and you're fired.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Somehow they are above it all.
- 2:39Speaker 1: And this goes into looking at a decision from nineteen
- 2:42Speaker 1: thirty five which limited the president's ability to remove somebody
- 2:55Speaker 1: in this agency kind of way in these agency worlds.
- 3:00Speaker 2: The problem is is that this.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Decision has been slowly chipped away at bit by bit
- 3:08Speaker 1: and piece by piece. Now is it a possibility that
- 3:14Speaker 1: when it comes to the Federal Trade Commission, which is
- 3:17Speaker 1: the agency in question, the president can fire, but another
- 3:20Speaker 1: agency the president can't. And how is it possible that
- 3:23Speaker 1: a president can't fire at all?
- 3:26Speaker 2: That's nuts.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Well, the Court seems somewhat interested in this idea, except
- 3:34Speaker 1: for Katanji Brown Jackson. I have said before and I
- 3:37Speaker 1: will say it again, the Court wants her gone. The
- 3:42Speaker 1: Elena Kagan so to my oarn never mind everybody else.
- 3:46Speaker 1: They know that she's incompetent, She is not smart enough
- 3:49Speaker 1: to be on the Court, while Tony, you're a racist.
- 3:52Speaker 2: She was never capable Judge Boseburg. Judge Boseberg is as.
- 4:01Speaker 1: White as powder, and he isn't capable being on the
- 4:04Speaker 1: court either. Neither is Merrick Garland save your race banning
- 4:07Speaker 1: for others. Katanji Brown Jackson is not bright, or at
- 4:11Speaker 1: least not bright in the way that you need to
- 4:13Speaker 1: be to be a Supreme Court.
- 4:14Speaker 2: Justice and can't do the job.
- 4:18Speaker 1: This is her argument regarding the idea of we can't
- 4:24Speaker 1: let the president be in charge. We need experts to
- 4:27Speaker 1: be in charge, unelected experts.
- 4:31Speaker 3: Some issues, some matter, some areas should be handled in
- 4:37Speaker 3: this way by nonpartisan experts. That Congress is saying that
- 4:44Speaker 3: expertise matters with respect to aspects of the economy and
- 4:48Speaker 3: transportation and the various independent.
- 4:50Speaker 2: Agencies that we have.
- 4:52Speaker 3: So having a president come in and fire all the
- 4:56Speaker 3: scientists and the doctors and the economists and the pH
- 5:00Speaker 3: and replacing them with loyalists and people who don't know
- 5:04Speaker 3: anything is actually not in the best interest of the
- 5:08Speaker 3: citizens of the United States.
- 5:09Speaker 1: What do you mean they don't know anything? This is opinion.
- 5:13Speaker 1: What do you mean they don't know anything? Because you
- 5:16Speaker 1: and your friends.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Think they don't know anything. What is this and why
- 5:20Speaker 2: is it possible?
- 5:21Speaker 1: Why is it somehow wrong that the duly elected president,
- 5:24Speaker 1: elected by the people who do know something, can't pick
- 5:27Speaker 1: the people that he wants.
- 5:29Speaker 2: He was elected to make this decision.
- 5:31Speaker 1: And here's Supreme Court Justice Katanji Brown Jackson saying, well,
- 5:35Speaker 1: it's not good enough because they're not experts the way
- 5:38Speaker 1: I decide someone's an expert.
- 5:40Speaker 3: These issues should not be in presidential control. So can
- 5:44Speaker 3: you speak to me about the danger of allowing in
- 5:48Speaker 3: these various areas, the president to actually control the Transportation
- 5:53Speaker 3: Board and potentially the Federal Reserve and all these other
- 5:56Speaker 3: independent agencies in these particular areas. We would like to
- 6:00Speaker 3: have independence.
- 6:04Speaker 2: What are you talking about again?
- 6:06Speaker 1: They should be agencies that exist with their own budgets
- 6:10Speaker 1: and their own world and never be elected and yet
- 6:12Speaker 1: have unbelievable influence over the United States. What kind of
- 6:18Speaker 1: world do you want to run? Justice Jackson? Now in
- 6:23Speaker 1: moments she's going to get to her world famous. I
- 6:26Speaker 1: don't understand what I'm trying to understand. She's always saying
- 6:29Speaker 1: this in every single case, we.
- 6:32Speaker 3: Don't want the president controlling I guess what I don't
- 6:35Speaker 3: understand from your overright argument is why that determination of Congress,
- 6:40Speaker 3: which makes perfect sense given its duty to protect the
- 6:44Speaker 3: people of the United States, why that is subjugated to
- 6:50Speaker 3: a concern about the president not being able to control everything.
- 6:54Speaker 2: What makes us think Congress can pick smart people either?
- 6:58Speaker 2: What is this belief?
- 7:01Speaker 1: The question before us is can the president fire somebody
- 7:04Speaker 1: from an agency? And I believe the answer is yes.
- 7:07Speaker 1: And I believe that the agencies are not special. And
- 7:10Speaker 1: just like we saw the end of Chevron deference, we
- 7:13Speaker 1: should see a tearing away of the agency class being
- 7:17Speaker 1: able to work with impunity and immunity. There should be.
- 7:23Speaker 2: A reckoning.
- 7:25Speaker 1: And the idea and as Justice Kavanaugh brought up, so
- 7:29Speaker 1: you're saying that an agency is an agency forever, and
- 7:31Speaker 1: the people elect a president and a Senate and a House,
- 7:36Speaker 1: and that shouldn't have a change in the policies.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Tanji Brown Jackson is not worthy of the court.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Let's just be clear about it and move on with
- 7:45Speaker 1: our day.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Impeachment needs to come