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Episode 6 - Championship Weekend! · In the Crease

• 0:09
  SPEAKER_00: There's the there's the beat.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hear the beat.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hear the beat.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is in the crease with Danny Moran and Kevin Stenstrom coming to you again.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh you're listening to us just two passionate D2 lacrosse dads talking about D2 lacrosse.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh Danny, I have to say it's it's a sad week because there are no more games coming up in D2 lacrosse.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's over.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's over.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's been a good season, though, Kev.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's been a really fun season this year, 2021.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's been a lot of fun.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: And and you know, we we've talked about this before.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: You have to give a lot of credit to the the schools, um, the coaches, the uh the athletic departments, the administrations, all the conferences, and what they were able to accomplish in this COVID season that we were able to have, and the amount of games that they were able to have.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, obviously, some some things like mercy being out were a real bummer, but if you look at the totality, it was a true accomplishment.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, 100%, with all the protocols in place at each at each individual institution.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, different year for the kids, you know, isolation, not being able to be with other kids, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um basically you're with practice and then back at your dorm room or class.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: That was it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, that's that's tough for an 18, 19, 20-year-old kid.
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  SPEAKER_01: But then on the opposite side, we got to have a lacrosse season this year.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: And like you said, we had we had a couple of cancellations here and there from different schools with you know the COVID coming up.
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  SPEAKER_01: But all in all, you have to give kudos to all the institutions who did just an amazing job um allowing these kids to have a season.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um grateful for that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, without a doubt.
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  SPEAKER_00: So before we get into the the championship game of Lemoyne against Lenore Ryan, um I just wanted to point out that last week when we were talking about the all-Americans and it came from USA LaCrosse, we had talked about, you know, USILA had come out with their list in 2019.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, they didn't have an all-American list in 2020.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then so far in 2021, they came out with something new with a North region and a South region, but with no All-Americans, and they hadn't answered my request of what was happening.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_00: Do you remember that discussion?
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  SPEAKER_01: I know you were mad because they didn't answer you back.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, what happened the day after we posted the podcast?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, the USAILA uh posted their all-American list, of course, because of you, Gavin Stenstrom.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would love to take the credit, but what it really tells us is that, you know, as uh once again, we are not experts, but we are just trying our hardest to put the the information out.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, last time we talked about those All-Americans in the from really U.S.
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  SPEAKER_00: LaCrosse magazine list.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um great list.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I looked at the US ILA list, another great list, and I thought tonight, just like we did last week, we should give credit to those kids that made it onto this list.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: I totally agree.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, the US ILA list, that's the big daddy of the list.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, those are the, you know, those are the boys that really deserve the um the credit.
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  SPEAKER_01: U.S.
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  SPEAKER_01: Flax Magazine, they they throw it out there and they throw out rankings and stuff, but that's not the official, official stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: It'll uh it'll always come from the US ILA.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they came out with their 2021 list.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you want, let's let's go down.
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  SPEAKER_00: You want you want to uh take care of it for us?
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, sure, I'd be happy to.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, for the first team, all Americans in the US ILA uh at attack, great kid, great player, Matt Hutchings out of Lenore.
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  SPEAKER_01: We had Eric Dickinson out of Lenore Rhyme University, phenomenal player, and uh Caleb Cuba from Mercyhurst University.
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  SPEAKER_01: Those three, we talked about those three all year long, Kev.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they're your first team uh attack.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, and talk about that that matchup we'll talk up a little bit later, Hutchings and Dickinson in the final, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we'll get to that in a minute.
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  SPEAKER_01: We'll get to that.
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  SPEAKER_01: But uh your first uh team All-American defense again from Lemoyne, Nate Arnold, great player.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh Tommy Angelicola from Mercy Hurst University, and Dan Lewis from Pace.
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  SPEAKER_01: Those are your first uh team All-American defense players.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, our first team All-American face-off is Dryden Browns from Lynn University, Kev.
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  SPEAKER_01: There you go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Got a Florida, got some Floridians in the first team.
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  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Our goalie, our goalie was uh Chris Hart out of St.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anselms, who deservingly so had a great CJ, CJ's, he's a great you're you're you're not you're you're not gonna change that one from any list, I don't think, this year.
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  SPEAKER_01: He he's hands down, you know, the best goalie in Division II lacrosse.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he's fun to watch too.
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  SPEAKER_01: So congratulations, CJ.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um LSM, first team, uh Reese Orman out of Wingate University.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um midfield, Ben McCreary from Lemoyne, um, Bryce Reese from Lenore, from Lenore Ryan, who I really like that kid.
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  SPEAKER_01: I really like his style of play.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and Nathan Grennan from Mercyhurst.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I he might have got a little overshouted because he played with Kaylee Cooper this year, but um Nathan Grennan had a great year.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, and last but not least at midfield, Danny Riley, uh Wingate University.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um short stick D middy.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have two of them on the first team.
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  SPEAKER_01: Usually they only had one in years past.
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  SPEAKER_01: This year they have two first team all-American short stick uh short stick D Midis.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh Connor Bond from Bentley and Brady Elbin from Mount Olive.
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  SPEAKER_01: So those guys, congratulations.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's your first team All-American list.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, your second team, great, great players again.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you look at this list, um at attack, you have Brady Kiernan from Mercy, Mercy College.
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  SPEAKER_01: Mercy had a great season, ranked number fourth in the country.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, they they beat Seton Hill.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they beat Mercy Hurst.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, Brady was a big part of that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he's uh second team All-American at attack.
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  SPEAKER_01: Also, uh Ben French out of Tampa, well-deserved, really good player.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh Willie Greco, uh D2's leading uh assist guy out of uh Wingate University, that's your second team All-American attack unit.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, the defense unit, uh Justin the Paletano from Adelphi.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh Sam Payton, uh Sam Leonard from Cotabba.
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  SPEAKER_01: So another SAC school.
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  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
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  SPEAKER_01: And a defenseman at that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, also on defense, uh a really, really good player and well deserved here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh James Houston, the Canadian, is now an all-American from Wingate University.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, and you know, it's funny because you hear so much about the Canadians on offense.
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  SPEAKER_00: So here's a Canadian that gets second team All-American on defense.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_01: And and Yue's a beast, man.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_01: He's a beast.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, he he always gets the number one guys.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he always has to lock down the number one guys no matter who Wingate plays.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I think it's overdue for James Houston, to be honest with you.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm happy to see that uh he got a second team nod there at All American.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, our face off second team All-American is um Antonio Ray from Mercy.
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  SPEAKER_01: One of the two, you know, best in the country, hands down at face-off.
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  SPEAKER_01: Kid's phenomenal and well deserved.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, the goalie, second team, all-American goalie is Andrew Avarello out of Mount Olive.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that defense out of Mount Olive got a couple All Americans.
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  SPEAKER_01: We spoke about Mount Olive and their defense a lot this year.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, second team LSM is Sean McGovern from Adelphi.
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  SPEAKER_01: Our midfield second team All-Americans is Reed Shaconis from Florida Tech.
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  SPEAKER_01: Jack Gibbons from Mercy, and Kyle Dunkley from Newberry.
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  SPEAKER_01: Another SAC school in there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Mercy got another kid in there, and there's the uh Sunshine State Conference again with Florida Tech and those guys.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that that's your midfield second team, All-American.
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  SPEAKER_01: And again, first time, have two choices at short stick D Midi.
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  SPEAKER_01: Second team is uh Anthony DeVito out of Mercy College and Kyle Bash out of U Indie.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he had a really good year.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh we'll drop to the third team now.
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  SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
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  SPEAKER_01: The attack.
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  SPEAKER_01: Also from a Delphi, Nicholas Racobuto, um, Carter Collins out of Lindenwood, and John Devin Piper from Mercy Hearst University.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's your third team All-American attack unit.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, the defense unit, third team, Lawrence Galezia, Adelphi, Sean Wrigley from Mercy, and Matt Bidot out of Tampa.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh congratulations, guys.
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  SPEAKER_01: Third team All-Americans.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, that's your defense unit.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, third team All-American goalie, Austin Geisel from Georgian Court University.
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  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh yes, yes, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Congratulations, uh, congratulations.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's just amazing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, our midfield, third team All Americans.
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  SPEAKER_01: John, oh, this one's a tough one.
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  SPEAKER_01: These Italian names are tough sometimes.
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  SPEAKER_01: We've got plenty in there too.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Archie, Archia Diacono.
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  SPEAKER_01: John, Archea Diacono.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh boy, they're gonna shoot me if I if I say it wrong.
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  SPEAKER_01: Archea Diacono out of Adelphi.
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  SPEAKER_01: Adelphi has got all the Italians out there in the island over there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, congratulations, John.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh also midfield, um, third team All-American Ross Filch out of Lemoyne, who had a great game uh last Sunday.
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  SPEAKER_01: Griffin Shoemaker, midfield from St.
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  SPEAKER_01: Anslums, uh, Jake Moshe McGraw from Tampa, midfielder.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and our third team short stick D uh D-middy's Colin Grippo from Belmont Abbey and John Galimi from Lemoyne.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: They got a whole ton of honorable mentions that I really don't want to go into because there's probably like 30 names on there, probably take me an hour to do it.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I would like to announce the players of the year from USILA if I could.
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  SPEAKER_00: Go right ahead, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, okay, for in Division II, the outstanding player of the year goes to Matt Hutchins attack out of Lemoyne.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he's he's a very impressive player, just very hedge, hedge smart, very high IQ, just knows what to do.
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  SPEAKER_01: Seems so in control when he plays.
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  SPEAKER_01: I really enjoy watching him play.
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  SPEAKER_01: Our defensive player of the year in division two is Dan Lewis from Pace University, our outstanding goalie in division two.
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  SPEAKER_01: Who do you think it is, Kevin?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, can I guess CJ Hart?
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  SPEAKER_01: Our boy CJ Hart that called out all year.
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  SPEAKER_01: And congratulations, CJ.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_01: I just want you to know that the guys from In the Crease, me and Kevin, we love you, bro.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: We love you.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'd love to meet you and talk to you someday.
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  SPEAKER_01: So congratulations, CJ.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, our outstanding offensive midfielder of the year in division two is uh none other than Nathan Grennan from Mercyhurst, and well deserved.
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  SPEAKER_01: Our outstanding attackman of the year in Division II is Eric Dickinson from Lenore Ryan.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh phenomenal player, just one of the top players in Division II, in my opinion.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, our face-off player of the year is Dryden Browse from Lynn.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, congratulations, Dryden.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's a big honor to be named face-off player of the year.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: I know after watching Antonio Ray, who was second team All-American face-off, um, I would like to have seen you know that Lynn face-off.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: What's his name again?
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: Dryden Brouse.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I I I I gotta go back and watch some Lynn games to watch him play because that would be exciting to see him.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, our short stick defensive midfielder of the year is Brady L uh Elbin from University of Mount Olive and Connor Braun from Bentley.
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  SPEAKER_01: And our long pole midfielder of the year is a kid I I like to take a second to talk about.
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  SPEAKER_01: I first saw this kid play four years ago.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: And after his very first game, I said to myself, wow, this kid is good.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: There was something, wasn't the biggest player, but there was something about his game as a freshman, as a true freshman.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I said to myself, that first time I saw him play, that's a future all-American right there.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: That's a future all-American.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: Once he learns the NCAA game, that's a future all-American.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: And uh the long pole midfielder of the year is from Wingate University or Reese Orman, and well, well deserved.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: And congratulations, fellas.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's the US ILF All American list and uh top players of the year.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: Congratulations from the guys in Indicrease who Yeah, that's that's fantastic.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: That that that's fantastic, and and uh yeah, from from us, us passionate D2 lacrosse dads, we say congrats to all of you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um so let's move on to the game.
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  SPEAKER_00: The the the game, that the championship on Sunday, Lemoyne and Lenore Rhine.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll uh as always, I'll let you give us your first thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, go going into this game when we spoke about it last week.
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  SPEAKER_01: I spoke about how impressed I was with uh Lemoyne's defense.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: And how how was that defense and who was gonna match up with Eric Dickinson?
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: That that's what I wanted to see.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_01: We had you know two contrasting styles of play going into that game, but we had a big obstacle in that game that I don't think anybody really thought about, and that was the weather.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: We had the most ridiculous little cold front that came through the northeast that weekend, and I mean we went from 80 degrees to like 38 at night, you know, uh winds, rain, just real crappy weather.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: And sure enough, that was championship weekend.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: And where was championship weekend in Connecticut, right in the heart of this weathery mess.
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  SPEAKER_01: So going into the the night before the game, I was thinking this weather is going to help Le Moyne because they practice in that kind of weather.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that that's springtime for those guys.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: They're from Syracuse.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, there's snow on the ground till you know March or April sometimes up there.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: Now you got the boys coming from North Carolina, you know, they're not used to that kind of weather.
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  SPEAKER_01: Although although it does get chilly in North Carolina, you know, you're talking about two different contrasts.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: And andor Ryan likes to run, they like to run and gun.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: And that weather slows running gun down, running gun teams down, and not only that, the field was a grass field.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Where balls where balls would have maybe rolled out of bounds were staying in bounds.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: So it changed the game a little bit, I believe, for uh LR.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and I agree.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: In fact, I think I was texting you about that, that I thought the same thing that with this weather, Lemoyne could have an advantage.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: Interestingly, though, the way the game started out, you didn't see that.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, what I saw in this game as I went through my notes again was kind of a tide turning, right?
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Lenore Ryan, I I think they've got the first offensive set, went right down and scores.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that was quick.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: Dickens and back right out of the gate.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: And then and Lemoyne, the first early part of the first quarter, to me, they looked sloppy.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: They they were they're all on the offense side, it just didn't seem sharp.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: They were missing passes, they were turning the ball over, giving Lenore Ryan more offensive uh sets.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: Now they didn't always score because at the end of the first quarter it was only two to three.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't a huge, it wasn't like they scored a lot.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Lenore Ryan was up by three three to two.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it it it didn't, it seemed like it took a took a little bit for Lemoyne to get in their rhythm.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: Their D started to get into settle in.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: It was very aggressive on both sides, though.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: Very aggressive.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was um, you know, they were all fighting for the I mean, look at the ground balls, the 50-50s.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: How long did those last?
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: Some of those scrums were pretty good.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_01: They they were getting uh it was a good game, you know.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: That first I felt that it was a tail of two halves almost in a way.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Eric Dickinson was on fire in the first half.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Lemoyne, although you you're correct, they did throw the ball away a couple of times.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh again, I think that weather, and you know, you know, like a heavyweight fight when two heavyweights get together, you know, it's jab jab punch, jab jab punch.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I felt that they were feeling each other out a little bit.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: I think the weather slowed down, you know, LR a little bit.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: Had that weather been a little bit better, it might have been a little bit different game.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe, maybe.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: But Le Moyne always seems to play in control, they play a controlled, methodical game.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: And even though they got down one, you know, one nothing, they you know, and and LR was getting extra possessions.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't see, I didn't see Lemoyne Dolphins get upset.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't see them get uh no, they they they were not out of it.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: They they knew that they had a lot of time left, even though they they were making a few mistakes, and and I think it was just like like you like I said, I think it just took them a little bit to settle in.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like you said, they're feeling each other out on what they could do.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, I did see a few times in the first half where uh just in the uh Wingate game, uh Dickinson was wide open.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like it looked like Lemoyne's defense um was ball-watching.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: There was something not really clicking.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and and I say that only with the that's once again me sitting in a seat, you know, watching it.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's much easier for me than what's going on on the field.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like I've always told people I'm the best lacrosse player in this in the stands.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: But if you get me on the field, you can really see I have no idea what I'm doing.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: But it was still but at that with that said, right, it was five, five and a half.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: And my note on here says it's exactly what what we talked about last week.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's a great offense against an unbelievable defense, who's gonna win out.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, I think I said last week, if Lemoyne can keep the score low, I think it favors them.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: And that was exactly my note at the end of the half.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: I wrote, low scoring, does this favor Lemoyne?
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: Because it was only 5'5 at half.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that played out in the second half even more.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: Well, if you ask me, coach Sheehan from Le Moine made amazing adjustments at halftime, both offensively and defensively.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: In the first half, you you mentioned a couple times, you know, Dickinson was alone.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you don't leave that kid alone.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: How does that kid get open?
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know, if I'm a coach, I'm putting a guy right in his jock.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: And if he goes to the port of sand, you go to the port of sand too.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: But they had one quick start.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: So you had a turnover and they had a quick start.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: We caught Lemoyne they caught Lemoyne out of, you know, they didn't have their defense set up.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: And they had another quick ball because Dickinson was left alone.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: They didn't make any more mistakes in the second half after Coach Sheehan.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: After Sheehan made his adjustments.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: First thing was, what did he do?
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: He took Nate Arnold, the all-American, and and like you discussed, he he's the guy, he's the captain on D.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: And he's the glue, like you said before, that holds that defensive together.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: And they put him on Dickinson, and their slide packages kind of weren't, they weren't all in sync yet, because he was playing kind of out of position, Nate Arnold was.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: So then they put Connor Hames on him, second half.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: And what did he do, Kevin?
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: He just shut him down.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: And it's funny, I did not, I did not realize that.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: I wrote in my notes uh that in the second half that I saw that Lemoyne's defensive slides were so disciplined.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: And I was trying to figure out how did they just start to click?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it was it was you know, a couple days later, probably Monday afternoon or or Tuesday, when I read the article by Matt Kaneer Inside Lacrosse, Coach Chan basically said that.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly he said.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: He started off when they were doing the practices.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: They said he was going to put Nate Arnold, his his all-American, on on Dickens.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: But come half even before halftime ended, he knew he was making that change.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: When he was going to the locker room, he went to Connor and says, This is your matchup, this is this is made for you.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: And he put he put Nate Arnold back into the his normal, their normal the way they operate, you know, and that is him being the glue guy.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: And you saw such a change.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_01: Complete change, and that was a great adjustment by but offensively, what they started to do was they started dodging from the wings offensively, sweeping across, and then catching a guy coming from behind wide open.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: They were getting three yard, three-yard doorstep shots after that.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: Hutchings and McCreary and and Pierce, those those kids play well together.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: And they just knew where they were gonna be.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: And Hutchins, he's he's good, man.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: He he he facilitated that whole offense in the second half.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: When he wasn't dodging, he was facilitating.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: And when he wasn't dodging or facilitating, he was telling guys where to go.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: And and Lemoyne just was a machine in the second half and held Eric Dickinson, an all-American top attackman of the year, to zero goals in the second half.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'll tell you that.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: I will tell you, just like we talked about backbreakers like in the in the semifinals, like when you know Lenoron came out, scored two quick goals in the third quarter.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: I thought that was kind of the backbreaker for Wingate.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: Here, the backbreaker that I think was uh Zach Pierce goal.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: And it was it was off a rebound that he that he got, and he basically scooped it and shoveled it in.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: And and that was that made it 8-5.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I thought, I wrote right then, is that could that be the backbreaker?
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: Because now you're gone from them being fairly close between one or two goals, now it's three goals, and and Lenore Ryan hadn't scored in a long time.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and what happened right after Pierce put in that goal at the face-off, you know, Lemoyne wasn't doing that great at face-offs, you know.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: He was getting his all day.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's pretty good.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: He's pretty good, and he was getting the clamps down, he was getting the the the scoops out, he was doing a real good job.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: And the second half, after that Pierce goal, I said, But has to win this one.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, this is a this is one Lenore Ryan needs to get, and he lost that next face off, and and the kid came down and boom, they scored, and it was 9-5.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, that was that was such a big face-off right there.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: And the kid was winning all day, and he lost that.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: That was an important one that he lost.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I I felt that that was the real, real dagger right there.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and and so uh the the quote that I saw from from Coach Sheehan of Lemoyne, and I first saw it in a in a tweet, and then I read it in in an article, but and it it I think we talked about how they now change things on offense, but when you hold, once again, they hold Mercy Hearst to under 10, they were they had scored up to 20, they averaged 20 per game.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: Lenore Ryan was 18 plus per game, and they hold them to six.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_00: And the quote that I that I read is it may be boring to everybody out there, but we are who we are, and we do what we do.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: Defense, defense, more defense.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, we kind of talked about this before, you know, it the second half, although it seemed, you know, it seemed like you know, obviously Le Moine had more control, more they kind of really I wouldn't say dominated, but they controlled that whole second half.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like you said, it was it was two different two two different halves, Taylor, two different halves.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: But if you really enjoy the the totality of the game and not just the scoring, if you watched Lemoyne's defense, it was it was artistry how well they they played.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: You couldn't have put it any better, Kevin.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: You couldn't have it was a thing of beauty.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_01: I I thought they played almost, almost, I mean, there's no such thing as perfect lacrosse, but they played as close as perfect as uh half as a team can play, as any team could play at any given time.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: And then in the national championship, I mean that was just again, hats off to Coach Sheen and what his adjustments at halftime.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_01: And he's been there 24 years, Kevin.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: And up in Syracuse, up there, they play a lot of lacrosse up in that part of the state of New York.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: And he's got a lot of good players right in his backyard, you know, like he's got a lot of players up there, and the players from up there know what a great program Lemoyne is, and they line up to play for him, yeah.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: So as long as Coach Sheen is at Lemoyne, they're going to be a force.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: You think anything's gonna change next year?
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_01: No, he's gonna play more defense and more defense and and play his style of game.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: And his style, guess what?
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: It wins championships.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it does.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_00: You know, uh kudos to Lenore Ryan getting there for the first time and and for being a fairly new program.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's what, maybe at most 10 years old.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so that that is uh that's a great accomplishment.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: They've been there the last few years, knocking at the door.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_00: They got in there, they played a great first half.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: They just got shut down by a phenomenal defense, only scoring one goal in the second half.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: And we will not we are gonna hear more from Lenore Ryan every year, too, I think.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_01: The future's very bright at Lenore Ryan.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: Coach Paradine is a great coach.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: You can't you can't say anything.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: Uh my oldest son went to St.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: Leo, and that was back in 2008, 2009, and Lenore Ryan was just getting their program really started.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I went down there to see my son play, and they knocked the snot out of St.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_01: Leo, and St.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: Leo was the conference champs in the Sunshine State there that year.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so Lenore Ryan, when as soon as Paradine got there, you know, he he changed things pretty quickly there.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I do have to mention that he is a Long Island guy.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: So he's from Freeport, so got Nassau County.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, he he's a great coach and he get he gets great players to go there.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_01: He's got a great system, and um, they're gonna be a force for for years to come as long as he's there.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I agree.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um I I guess my last words is once again, just congratulations to Le Moyne, the Lemoyne Dolphins on not only an undefeated season, but a phenomenal championship game.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, it was just a joy to watch um that game.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: As was the Division I and the Division III game.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: Now, if you watched the Division III game, I don't know if you did.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: I did because my oldest son went to RIT.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, did he?
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I didn't play lacrosse, but he did go there.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: So it was that's why I was watching.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_00: I was rooting for them the whole time.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: Well, guess what?
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: I had forgotten completely that the ex-Limestone star, Larson Sundown, had transferred to RIT.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: I had too until I we heard his name about five or six times during the broadcast.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh my god, that's sundown from Limestone.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: So you had a Division II kid who the fifth year decided to go to RIT.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_01: He had that one more year left for COVID and got himself a got himself a national championship in Division III.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_01: So a really great weekend for lacrosse across all three divisions.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_01: I I I you you like me love the game.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_01: And if we're watching, you know, two teams from the peach belt play lacrosse on a Wednesday, you know how much we love this game.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'll tell you what, it's it's it's what uh you know, I've just become uh we talk about all the time, you know, just passionate about and and watching and and trying to learn myself more and more about the sport and and how it goes.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, uh so end of the season for D2 lacrosse games, a lot of other things, you know, you and I have talked about this, just so our listeners out there know, we will have probably a few more podcasts this summer.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: We probably won't do it every week, but we'll we're gonna do a few, and then we'll probably start kicking off a little more regularly once fallball starts, because that would be fun to talk about and and try to get, like we've talked about, get some coaches in here, get some, you know, some of the uh conference uh chairs or the the presence of the different conferences in here, athletic directors from D2, and kind of talk about um their either their their team, their conference, and and and go from there.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I think it's our goal to try to perhaps get a coach to come on and talk with us, maybe talk about his program and and and talk about the finer things about recruiting and and scholarships and stuff like that.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: I think that would be great to get one of the coaches to come on.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_01: I I think we could do it.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: We'll send out a hey, any coaches out there that are listening, uh and I think you want to promote your program.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: Right, exactly.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_01: You want to promote your program, um feel free to come on on in the crease.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: Uh maybe we'll start emailing some coaches and ask them if they'd like to come on and talk about their program and some of the things they do at the university and what a day would be like for a student there and and and enlighten people more about Division II Lacrosse.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe even do a podcast on recruiting, which I'd like to do maybe in a week or two.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, uh the season's over, I mean, for players, but not for coaches.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_01: Now their season really starts.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_01: Now their recruiting starts.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: And tournaments get started, these summer tournaments, uh, travel team tournaments, um, uh, individual and team showcases are going to get underway by the end of this month.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, some of them have already gotten underway.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so right.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: So that will be our goal.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_00: Our goal will be to kind of focus on um uh for the next podcast, more on the recruiting side and maybe the tournament side of what's coming up.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because, you know, like we said when we started this thing, this is to highlight D2 lacrosse and all how how great this division is.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I think if we can bring it to those high school lacrosse athletes, high school lacrosse players and their parents as an alternative to, you know, always hearing about D1.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because not everyone's gonna be in D1.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_00: And if you want to play really good lacrosse at a high level, D2 is where you should be looking.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, you're right.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: We'll we'll talk about that uh at a future podcast.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_01: We'll we can really delve into that and and maybe help some parents along the way.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because I think we've I mean you and I have both been there and we've had to face those realities um on on what works for what works for our kids, and we can only then and I think our goal is to try to impart that uh onto others and just share that.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's correct, and I think we should, and um, hopefully we can get that done shortly soon.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we'll definitely do that.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_00: We'll try to shoot for next week.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: How about that?
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_01: Sounds good.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_00: All right, well, thanks, Danny.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_00: It was great once again.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: And you have been listening to In the Crease.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_01: Hey Kevin, have a good time in Texas.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, all right, I will, my friend.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see you next week.