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Selective Ignorance: Ep. 84 | Consent is Not in Perpetuity · Decisions, Decisions

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,
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  Speaker 1: before we get to this week's episode, I want to
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  Speaker 1: a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power written by
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  Speaker 1: yours truly, and my co-host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Wheezy.
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  Speaker 1: Make sure y'all get that. Now let's get to this
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  Speaker 1: week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance,
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  Speaker 1: a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. Before
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  Speaker 1: we get started, October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month and
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  Speaker 1: it is a good reminder to learn your risk and
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  Speaker 1: talk with a healthcare provider about when breast cancer screening,
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  Speaker 1: including mammograms, is right for you. Early detection can make
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  Speaker 1: breast cancer easier to treat and to beat, okay? So
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  Speaker 1: for trusted screening information and resources, visit the American Cancer
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  Speaker 1: Society at cancer.org. Now y'all, Y'all already know. We're getting
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  Speaker 1: into all the things. All the things current, all the
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  Speaker 1: things ignorant. Just all the things. We're starting up top
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  Speaker 1: with our ignorant shit. I'm going to give y'all my
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  Speaker 1: Culture Con recap, and then we are talking about... The meats,
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  Speaker 1: the fish, the eggs, everything being printed as 3D or
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  Speaker 1: made with byproducts that aren't at all what the products
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  Speaker 1: say it is. Then up first in This Is America,
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  Speaker 1: you already know, we have a lot to say regarding
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  Speaker 1: the Cornell 7 rape case that is happening and all
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  Speaker 1: the conversations surrounding it, including Trump and his take on
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  Speaker 1: the government-appointed prosecutor for this case. Then we take it
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  Speaker 1: still to sex. Georgia woman pleads for help after being
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  Speaker 1: homeless and says that she has been mislabeled a sex
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  Speaker 1: offender after being fired for sleeping with an inmate while
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  Speaker 1: she was working there. Now, we're going to talk a
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  Speaker 1: little bit cause and effect, holding grace, kind of forgiving
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  Speaker 1: someone when they know what the consequences are, as well
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  Speaker 1: as what that sex offender label really means. Then, this
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  Speaker 1: is not a sports podcast, but Texas linebacker Aziz Alshair
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  Speaker 1: was told by an NFL official to remove the name
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  Speaker 1: of Wafa Akilah, an eight-year-old Palestinian girl killed in Gaza
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  Speaker 1: from his black eye patch during the Texans' Week 2 game.
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  Speaker 1: Or he would not be allowed to continue playing.
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  Speaker 2: All right, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: It's another episode of Selective Ignorance. And y'all already know
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  Speaker 1: I'm joined by my super producer, OG pod legend, A-King.
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  Speaker 1: What it do?
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  Speaker 3: Man, we are in New York City. We back home.
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  Speaker 3: We back home. We brought this ATL-ian back.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? We brought this Floridian back
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  Speaker 4: to the city.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I've been here for a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Yo, how does it feel to be back, y'all? Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: I know it sounds crazy. Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 5: It is.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess for us, we came last year
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  Speaker 1: and recorded with Jason. Jason, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or maybe
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  Speaker 1: that was at the top of the year?
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  Speaker 3: That was November.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, of last year. Oh, yeah, because we did our
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  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving episode.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, it probably was earlier.
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  Speaker 1: Because we did it around this time.
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  Speaker 6: Um, I'm excited.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited to be doing it with Ja, who's also here.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all know the king of headlines.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. Pop blessing all the yap niggas. What up,
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  Speaker 3: what up, what up, what up, what up? We out
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  Speaker 3: here mobbing through Mamdani-stan. And is. Yeah, Mamdani's NYC. And is.
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  Speaker 3: It feels different. As soon as I came in this bitch,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, damn. Not too many potholes.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like, New York is one of the places that's normally, like,
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  Speaker 3: I like New York, but New York is, like, the
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  Speaker 3: type of dirty where it's, like, you might want to
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  Speaker 3: wash your hands before you piss. Like, I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to touch my dick with regular outside New York hands.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you should do that anyway. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean? Just wash your hands. Yeah, but I'm saying,
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  Speaker 3: I want to wash my hands before I piss.
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  Speaker 6: Like, I don't want to touch my.
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  Speaker 3: Dick with, like, New York... And I got to like,
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  Speaker 3: you got to check. I do that every week.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The airport.
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  Speaker 4: Remember when we was in the airport? Damn, I was
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  Speaker 4: about to say, remember when we was in the bathroom?
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy. That's crazy. Remember when we went to the bathroom?
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  Speaker 3: Remember when we went to the bathroom?
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  Speaker 6: But nah, yeah, you just want to wash your hands.
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  Speaker 3: We got good water, though.
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  Speaker 6: Y'all do have good water.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard that New York is some of the highest
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  Speaker 3: rated tap water in America.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because this is probably the only thing that still
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  Speaker 1: has regulations in.
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  Speaker 3: This goddamn country.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how New York, of all places, is
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  Speaker 1: dirty and filthy as it is with the goddamn Hudson River,
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  Speaker 1: with every type of body plane and everything.
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  Speaker 6: Else in it.
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  Speaker 1: We have good water here in New York. But yes,
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  Speaker 1: the only thing, it's highly, highly, highly regulated here. Unlike
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the food in our goddamn country.
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  Speaker 6: New York still gives a fuck.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it does.
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  Speaker 3: New York still cares.
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  Speaker 1: It does. Speaking of Mondami, though, in New York, I
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  Speaker 1: attended Culture Con this weekend with the Spill app.
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  Speaker 3: So I was doing Spill on the Street.
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  Speaker 1: Having more conversations, again, around the importance of knowing your status,
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  Speaker 1: getting tested, and kind of normalizing the conversations around sexual health,
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  Speaker 1: specifically sex. amongst our community and black women. So, it
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  Speaker 1: was really dope to see. Ran into some really dope friends.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to Zeri Hall, Selena Hill, who's been on
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  Speaker 1: this podcast, Crystal Renee.
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  Speaker 6: That's what's up.
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  Speaker 1: Really dope seeing them. I got to see Mufasa.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay. Pierre is Mufasa.
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  Speaker 3: Speak up!
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  Speaker 6: Did you speak up when you seen Aaron Pierre?
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  Speaker 3: Let me tell you.
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  Speaker 1: How much the girlies ain't hip. So they're still calling
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  Speaker 1: him Mufasa, and I'm like, Jon Stewart Jr. And when
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  Speaker 1: I tell you they're like, who?
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  Speaker 3: The girlies are not hip to the lanterns. Come on, ladies.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all better go see that man play motherfucking
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  Speaker 1: Green Lantern. He's killing it. Yeah, he hasn't taken off
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  Speaker 1: his shirt yet, really. He does have sex scenes with,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the lady? Mm-hmm. What is it, the mind?
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  Speaker 3: The Manhunter.
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  Speaker 6: The Manhunter.
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  Speaker 3: The Manhunter.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I was very disappointed in the lack of
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  Speaker 1: knowledge that the people knew about motherfucking child support.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy because Lancer's just got renewed for season two.
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  Speaker 1: For season two and in. And so did A Different World.
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  Speaker 3: And so did A Different World.
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  Speaker 6: So I had to finish it.
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  Speaker 3: I watched three episodes on the plane here and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a second, they done put it on planes already?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, I just downloaded it on my Netflix so
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  Speaker 3: I could watch a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: And I was like, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the second episode was a little heavy-handed. Okay.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They went like, I'm not mad at them talking about
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  Speaker 3: bell hooks, but they said bell hooks like every other word. Like,
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  Speaker 3: it should be a drinking game for episode two, how
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  Speaker 3: many times they said bell. I appreciate it. But also,
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  Speaker 3: I love bell hooks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I love bell hooks.
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  Speaker 4: Because Negroes don't read, so we got to keep re-emphasizing
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  Speaker 4: authors and book titles and shit.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not mad at.
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  Speaker 6: Them at all.
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  Speaker 3: Let me take this on as well.
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  Speaker 9: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: I got tested today. Know your status.
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  Speaker 3: Practicing what you preach.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, know your status.
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  Speaker 3: I went and got tested today.
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  Speaker 1: I had a real act of September. I said, you
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  Speaker 1: know what? Let me go and make sure everything how.
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  Speaker 6: It needs to be.
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  Speaker 3: She put the H-E-D in.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, overall, I did want to say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was dope to be doing this again with the
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  Speaker 1: Spill app. If you haven't yet, it's a black social
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  Speaker 1: media app. that you should all get on. Y'all know
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  Speaker 1: there's waves of us getting off of these other platforms,
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  Speaker 1: but this is a platform that's not limiting our voices
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  Speaker 1: or conversations. So it was really dope. And then, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be one to jump on the
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  Speaker 1: bandwagon of bashing yet another Black event. At the end
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  Speaker 1: of the day, you know, people spend their hard-earned money.
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  Speaker 1: I think that A lot of us go in with
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  Speaker 1: high expectations to a lot of places that maybe we shouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: It did seem to fall short for quite a bit
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  Speaker 1: of attendees. The second day, it was raining. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if the second day had such a drop
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  Speaker 1: in attendance due to the rain. It was raining. Or
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  Speaker 1: if it was because of the lines from the day before.
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  Speaker 1: But what I will say is it is a con.
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  Speaker 1: And it is a con for culture. And I was
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  Speaker 1: having a conversation last night with some people. And as
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  Speaker 1: we sat here and dissected CultureCon, we landed on the
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  Speaker 1: same way you go to Comic-Con, DreamCon, and all of
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  Speaker 1: these cons, you go to dress up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You go to experience and be a part of a culture.
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  Speaker 6: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: And essentially, when you go to CultureCon, you are going
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  Speaker 1: to be a part of Black fashion in Brooklyn.
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  Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: And it literally was that. I did feel like, and again,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why people go. I assume networking, all
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  Speaker 1: those things. But it definitely gave, if you want to
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  Speaker 1: be amongst friends that maybe you haven't seen in a
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  Speaker 1: long time.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to go be amongst people who just,
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  Speaker 1: you know, want to enjoy being outside for a day,
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  Speaker 1: they get to see some of their favorite celebrities chat.
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  Speaker 1: There's activations. There's drinks. There's food trucks. There's a marketplace
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  Speaker 1: where you can support Black art, Black brands. It literally
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  Speaker 1: is just that. And I want people to just know
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  Speaker 1: that you get to be amongst some fashionable Negroes for
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  Speaker 1: a day or a weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But if you go there just wanting that, wanting to
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  Speaker 1: be a part of blackness, wanting to be a part of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just a crowd of people that may have
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  Speaker 1: the same aspirations as you, there you go.
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  Speaker 6: That's your place.
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  Speaker 1: But if you finna go there and think that you
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  Speaker 1: about to get a job or that, Aaron Pierre about
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  Speaker 1: to get your, you know, slay some dick in your
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  Speaker 1: coochie because he on a flyover, that you going to
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  Speaker 1: get to have a one-on-one conversation with Michael B.
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  Speaker 6: Jordan?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe not. But to me, I was like, when I
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  Speaker 1: went there after the conversation, I said, oh, it's a con.
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  Speaker 1: Look at it like Comic-Con. Now, in terms of the logistics... Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Brooklyn Navy Yard, right?
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  Speaker 1: It was Brooklyn Navy Yard, I will say. And you went,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm curious. All I kept thinking was.
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  Speaker 3: I've never went.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 9: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: You went to Fanatics.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, Fanatics.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't finish where I was going with it. But
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  Speaker 1: to me, when we were thinking of what this was
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  Speaker 1: in terms of the activations, the panels, the conversations, the
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  Speaker 1: photo moments, so many people said Fanatics got it right
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  Speaker 1: for the amount of people that came from the star
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  Speaker 1: power that was there. For what people went to, there
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  Speaker 1: was constant things to do.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that No one wants to spend money
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  Speaker 1: to stand in line. And unfortunately, that's kind of the
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  Speaker 1: experience they got at Culture Con without also a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people being able to know where to go, what
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  Speaker 1: to do and all those things. But yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: for the growth that they've experienced, which also is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's just a dope thing for any black business to
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  Speaker 1: do is to grow to that capacity. But it's you
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  Speaker 1: got to get the logistics right.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think people get frustrated with.
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  Speaker 3: Like you said, the waiting in line is one of
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  Speaker 3: the biggest complaints I see, not even just across cons,
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  Speaker 3: even across concert events, festivals.
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  Speaker 6: Stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, how long did I have to wait to
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  Speaker 3: get food? How long did I have to wait to
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  Speaker 3: get to the bathroom? And things like that. And so, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: stuff like that has to be figured out. But if
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  Speaker 3: you're going to a con, for you personally... What makes.
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  Speaker 6: A good con? Like what makes a good experience for you?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's my other problem. I enjoy entertainment.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoy live music. I enjoy bands. That's what I enjoy.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a motherfucking podcast. You know what I do? Listen
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  Speaker 1: to podcasts. But what I don't want to do is
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  Speaker 1: pay hundreds of dollars to go and hear someone talk
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  Speaker 1: about shit I can see on YouTube. That's another thing.
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  Speaker 1: Like Aaron Pierre, Michael B. Jordan. They were literally talking
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  Speaker 1: about their projects, not how they negotiate their contracts. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't give us anything. And so to me, it's talking
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  Speaker 1: points of projects that we could see while you're on
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  Speaker 1: your press run because you're sitting in front of everyone
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  Speaker 1: doing it. Like I got a personal invite to go
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  Speaker 1: see Colin Kaepernick speak and he was being interviewed by
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  Speaker 1: Bomani Jones. And I was like, I have zero desire
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  Speaker 1: to see him talk about what I just heard him
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  Speaker 1: say on Higher Learning, what he just said on All
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  Speaker 1: the Smoke. Like the talking points of, you know, Let
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  Speaker 1: me tell you why I wanted to stay in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: It's the same way I choose to stay in America. Because, yes,
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  Speaker 1: people want to kick me out. They don't align with me.
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  Speaker 1: But this is what I want to do. This is
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  Speaker 1: where I want to be. I like football. I want
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  Speaker 1: to play in the NFL. I'm an American. Even though
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  Speaker 1: I don't agree with everything, you can't kick me out
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  Speaker 1: of this country or I won't allow you to tell
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  Speaker 1: me to just go somewhere else. And, of course, with
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  Speaker 1: this book out, the conversations around Roc Nation, around all
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  Speaker 1: of the things, the kneeling, I've heard it already.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard it already. And so to me, there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: that makes me want to go to hear people talk.
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  Speaker 3: This probably sounds crazy as a podcaster.
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  Speaker 1: I know. I know. That's why I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 1: a hypocrite saying I don't want to hear niggas talk
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  Speaker 1: while they listening to me talk. But also, I do
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  Speaker 1: feel like when I'm on a panel, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: drop you some bars. I'm going to make it entertaining.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to sit here and try to relate to you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to give you some goddamn shit to take
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  Speaker 1: with you. So many people just go up there and
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  Speaker 1: say some bullshit.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. Like, the question I have now is, like,
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  Speaker 3: have fresh runs run its course? Like, should we get
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  Speaker 3: back to a point where if you have a project
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  Speaker 3: or a book or a movie you're promoting, not say
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  Speaker 3: you only do one interview, but do you only do, like,
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  Speaker 3: maybe two or three select things? And you don't because... And.
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  Speaker 1: We just brought this up in a recent episode. I'm
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  Speaker 1: surprised you asked that question because.
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  Speaker 1: King just brought up something that Wayno said in a
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: previous episode where in order to be seen once, you
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: have to be in 20 different places. Like with this podcast,
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  Speaker 1: we're here in New York. And yes, we're like recording
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  Speaker 1: multiple episodes, but we're going on Hot 97. We're doing
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. We're doing, you know, things because people that
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: listen to Breakfast Club may not listen to Hot or
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  Speaker 1: Vice Versa. You have to put yourself in a ton
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: of rooms to be seen and heard. It's also why
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  Speaker 1: we dropped twice. twice a week like you gotta you
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  Speaker 1: gotta be visible and you gotta give the people something
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  Speaker 1: so I'm not against it I'm saying I'm not spending hundreds.
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  Speaker 4: Of dollars to do that shit but I don't but
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  Speaker 4: I mean I've never been I haven't gone to Culture
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  Speaker 4: Con yet but from my understanding prior to this year
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  Speaker 4: it was a place where possibly you could collaborate and
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  Speaker 4: get another job or a project done or you know
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  Speaker 4: collaborative stuff.
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  Speaker 1: They moved away from the plot.
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  Speaker 4: To me it was all it's a photo moment I
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  Speaker 4: saw this celebrity list thing and I'm like whoa This
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  Speaker 4: is heavy.
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  Speaker 3: What are you learning from Aaron here? And if I
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: can't talk to them, then that's the whole point in
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: having people. So did culture, did we put the culture
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: in con or did we put the con in the culture?
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: Because it's a conference.
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah. So we're supposed to watch people talk.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Yes. And give game and give gems, right? So, I mean,
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: I'm still, you know, hopefully next year.
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: I'll go, but.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: God bless, man.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: God bless.
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: And also a money grab. I mean, there's big corporate interest.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: So I had the VIP band, but I was a
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: part of press.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: So I didn't pay for it, but I did realize
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: when I got my QR code sent to me that
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: that wristband cost $ 600. $ 300 per day.
• 15:31
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: And they ran out of Grey Goose.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: And it's a comedy. I like Keto's. And they ran.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Out of the Goose. That was the only liquor sponsor
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: that I saw on the premise.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: And bitch, how you run out?
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: That's heavy. A motherfucking gray goose.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: You can't handle endangered species vodka, nigga. First of all,
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: having gray goose only is crazy.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: It's crazy vibes like that shit. You know why it's
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: even crazier? Because we talk about the culture. What niggas
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: like vodka?
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: I'm biracial.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I get a pass. And I know it's the white
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: side of me and the aging side of me that
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: also can't drink juice and don't do brown liquor except
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: for whiskey. But to know that this is a group
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: of us and y'all have vodka, that is the last
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: liquor that we as a community really drank together. That
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: is the last thing that's brought. I be having to
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: bring my own motherfucking Tito's and club soda to any
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: even house gathering because the niggas be like, ew, vodka?
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: You drinking vodka? They shame me every... Every day of
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: my life, I have to Vodka.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Short of an Espresso Martini, there's no real use.
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: For Vodka in the modern.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Don't do this. Don't do this. No, I'm saying Espresso
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Martini is fine. I'm just saying, like, outside of that drink.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: But what's the other drink that uses Vodka nowadays, a
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: modern drink that people actually drink?
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Dirty Martini?
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Cosmopolitan?
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: Long Island iced tea.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Long Island got a little bit of Vodka up.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: In that thing. Long Island iced... Is this 1992? Who
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: the fuck is drinking Long Island iced tea? Welcome to
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: New York City. These niggas will drink that shit, bro.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: By the way, by the way. Buzzball got vodka in it,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: don't it? Buzzball is crazy. So a lot of the
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: splinters are vodka. You know what's crazy?
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: You probably just shaded. I would say, while I think
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: we have a very upper echelon listening audience here of
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Selective Ignorance, I think they're a little bit degenerative and
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: they are drinking Long Island still.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: And you out.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Here shaming them. First off, let me tell you why
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I'm accepting. I want to tell y'all, I am now
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: accepting y'all ordering Long Island iced teas in 2026.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: You ready?
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: It's because this motherfucking economy. And when you go out
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: and you stress, I understand you wanted to get there.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: A little quicker, a little cheaper.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: And the best way to do that is to just
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: get a motherfucking drink that got.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: About four liquors in it. Four liquors in it.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I approve Long Island iced teas in 2026.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, and here's the opposing message. Now we have the
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: State of the Union. Now here's the retort. Here's the
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: retort to the Long Island iced tea propaganda, right? About
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: a week ago... Oh, shit. About a week ago.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Not a personal story.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Yes, a personal story.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: You're connecting to the audience.
• 18:03
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: About a week ago, the three of us.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: We did some... We had an interview. We sat down
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: for an interview. And after that interview, we went to
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: go get some lunch. We did. And at this lunch,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: while we're all minding our black-ass business, enjoying our food, I,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Jason Jolly, was shamed by the biracial to my right.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: For.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Eating tater tots. Oh, and I was told that tater
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: tots are childish.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Childish.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: While you eating them. And while I'm eating them, while
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I'm stuffing my face with delicious crispy tater tots, I
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: was told.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: That tater tots make ladies' pussies dry.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Yes, she did.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: If I go out with a man and he ordered
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: tater tots, he may as well have ordered his goddamn
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: steak well done chicken fry hard, went motherfucking to California,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: rolled on the side, everything I hate. A grown man
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: should not order tater tots. That is childish. It's the
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: most unattractive way to eat a potato, if you ask me.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: And I am not here for it.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: And I would pause it. That's all they are.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Why are you eating mini hash browns in the afternoon?
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: It ain't even breakfast time. Hash browns is for breakfast.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: I would posit to you that Long Island iced teas
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: are the most childish drink of 21 year, of your
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: legal drinking age. That's what you do when you're not
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: legal drinking age.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I actually want to one you up on it. I
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: want to one you up on it.
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: What's that?
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: The most childish drink you can order as a man
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: or woman is a Amaretto Sour.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. You can't. Okay, you can't. Yeah, you can't.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: You can't be drinking.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah you can't do that and i'm already sour crazy.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Is that's kind of crazy that's kind of crazy that's
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: like drinking moscato yeah the.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Nikki minaj version of moscato she had her own pink
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: it was something like that how is it I have
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: never bought anything that Nicki Minaj has released. Now, what's
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: crazy is we're out here shaming food when Long Island I.C.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Is maybe the healthiest thing.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: You niggas can put in your body right now because
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the FDA, this is America.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and start off here. Let's go ahead.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Long Island I.C.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Being the healthiest thing you can drink is the wildest.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: This is weird. 70 grams of sugar is a lot.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: Dr.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Doom want to fuck shit up now.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: They just recalled a hundred and something thousand cases of Gatorade. Like,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: we can't even get our electrolytes no more.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: My nigga. After recalling, or not even recalling, they let
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: us know. They didn't recall it.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: They didn't recall it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: The Martinelli's apple juice had Listeria in it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Wait, are you serious? Yeah. I got a bottle in
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: my bag right now. But that was about a month ago.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: That was about a month ago.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, you think they got it resolved in a month? Again,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: these niggas is just telling you, hey. we ain't check
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: the shit, you might get sick.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: That's literally where they at. Yeah, and they'll say, hey,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Laceria's is good for two days, you'll be all right.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: But not only may you get sick or not get sick,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: they are now telling us that the products we are
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: putting into our body are not the products we are
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: putting into our body, such as salmon, eggs, ice cream.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: They are now admitting, and I have a conspiracy hot
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: take for this, but they are now admitting to us
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: that They are forcing us to eat science. Eat science?
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: What?
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: What kind of science?
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: Lab 1, 3, 4?
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: The eggs, they are saying, are coming from things that
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: they are growing in a lab.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: The food that you are eating is really vegetable oil.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: It's not this. they're printing beef they're printing fish they
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: are also not even allowing or recalling and removing our
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: access to get seeds so we are also in a
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: place where we cannot even grow our own food if
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: we wanted to which is why farmers are all like
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: bitch what the fuck we supposed to do with our
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: health and I say all of this to say and
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be this is my hot take okay.
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: Here we go everybody prepare yourself I.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Feel like this is them just trying to give us
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: a sliver of honesty because they knew this already. The
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: same way they came out and was like, yeah, bruh, aliens,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: we've been new.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Right, right, right, yeah. We wasn't going to tell y'all
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: all this shit.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: It just reminds me of how we go through these
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: fads and trends of diets. We go through a thing
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: where when we were growing up, The way they forced
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: us to drink milk with all of our meals, like
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: it was the best for our bones. Mind you, it's
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: other people milk and not other people milk, other mammals milk.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: It wasn't our milk.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: It wasn't our milk.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: You drink this milk from a motherfucking cow, got a
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: little pus, got a little blood, but it's going to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: make your bones strong.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: You're going to be big.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Those ads aren't even here anymore.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: It's our propaganda.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: So a part of me is seeing this and I'm like,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: oh bitch, we've been eating fake shit. They just said,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: let me go ahead and tell y'all niggas this now.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: But we've been- It was all bad from the beginning.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: Now they just saying, okay, fuck the bad. We're going
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: to make some new shit. Like lab grown eggs. So
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: it looks like the eggs too.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: You crack it open.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Shape like it. Texture.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Does it crack like an egg?
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Like the egg white?
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Or is it just like some Lego? Like putty. You
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: crack it open.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, oh shit. It fried the same way, but-
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: I'm not eating none of that shit.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: You can keep it. That's crazy. But you know, it
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: makes sense though because- All them farmers that exist with
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: the chickens and the hens.
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: They can produce that.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Actually, what I'm going to do is allow y'all to
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: listen to a video so y'all can see what the
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: fuck is actually happening here.
• 23:53
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: All that mercy. It is now confirmed.
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: Lab-grown eggs are federally approved, and Walmart, alongside Target, are
• 24:01
  Speaker 10: already selling them. The protein is squeezed out of gene-edited
• 24:06
  Speaker 10: mold and cloned on repeat because a steel tank costs
• 24:10
  Speaker 10: less than a hen.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: They're brewing eggs with no chicken in sight and slipping
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: them onto your breakfast plate. That egg isn't real food.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: It's factory fungus, spliced with the gene for egg protein,
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: then dumped into giant fermenting vats and fed on sugar
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: until it swells into a wet, moldy soup.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: And it gets worse.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: That cloudy sludge is blasted into dust, ton after ton,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: padded out with plant filler and passed off as egg white,
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: then buried in packaged food under labels that never say so.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: At Walmart, two or more of these lab egg products
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: already sit on the shelf. Check the Farm to Table
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: app to find real eggs from a farm near you.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: What is it labeled? Is it labeled? I need to know.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Well, they're federally approved now, so I'm not sure how
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: they're supposed to label it. I do know I just
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: saw if it is lab salmon, essentially... at sushi restaurants,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: it'll have two asterisks now. So they are letting you
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: know when it is lab-grown in certain restaurants. But again,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: how many of us, and some of you do, but
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I'm asking how many of us truthfully read every label
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: of everything we put in our body? It's not realistic, right?
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: And so even... When you go and get ice cream now,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: for the ice cream that doesn't use dairy, it's not
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: that they're using almond milk or soy milk. They're using
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the same modified byproducts of a protein that has milk-like
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: fungi or ingredients against science. And so if you're eating
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: ice cream, if you go and look in your fridge
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: right now, if it says Frozen dairy product, that is
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: actually not milk at all. It's not dairy. That's why
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: they can't call it ice cream.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: So instead of calling it ice cream, you might want
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: to make sure your ice cream says ice cream. Otherwise,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: when it's frozen dairy product, that's how they're letting you
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: know that what you're putting in your body is science.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: And it ain't come out no motherfucking cow or almond
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: or none of it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I want to say, I speak for the... The nut
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: milk drinkers out here.
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: Pause.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: Hey, yo.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Hey.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Almond milk. Cashew milk.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Go ahead and talk about how you like nuts.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: And I would offer you guys to look into those
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: alternatives versus, like, you know, obviously if you're not getting,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: if you choose to drink whole milk, if you're not
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: getting that, then maybe possibly look into... the alternative because
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: that has to be far.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: More better than whatever's going on out there. And we
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: don't know what... They would absolutely.
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: You would.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Probably go to jail in Europe for trying to serve
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: this shit to people. You'd probably go to prison. And
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I have no doubt that they're not.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: You know how there's certain things they would test on
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: animals just to see if there's reactions and they would
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: try to treat it to figure out They're just taking
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: this shit right off the printer.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: So in 10 years, we're going to see commercials. If
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: you suffer from 3D malamalosia of the neck, you know
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying? You've probably been eating that dairy product.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: The thing they said in that video, though, that is
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: the most fucked up is... No, not even a fungus.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: You've asked this question before. Why is all this happening, right?
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: What they said in there was that it's less expensive...
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: to put all that shit in a big steel vat
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: than it is to have actual farmland to actually do
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: the thing the right way. And that's all it comes
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: down to is profit margins. They will kill us to
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: make a couple extra dollars. Not that they're not making
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: money already. Not that the industry is in some recession
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: that if they don't do this, the whole thing will
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: collapse and people will lose their jobs and companies will
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: shut down.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: They're just doing it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Because they can and it will make a couple more dollars.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: And now we all got to eat fungus and whatever
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: the fuck that shit is so other niggas can get rich.
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: Yep.
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: Fucked up society, man.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Fucked up society. And speaking of fucked up society.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: But it's still our choice to buy it, though. Yeah. Shit.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: They ain't getting my dollars.
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: Nope.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Speaking of a fucked up society, we'll go ahead and
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: add a trigger warning here, of course, because we're going
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: to be talking about some shit. I'm glad we're able
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to do this. So the Cornell 7 case is a
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: story that's way bigger than just seven men And one
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: woman in.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: A fry house.
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: Very much so.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: So a former Cornell student alleges she was drugged and
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: sexually assaulted by multiple fraternity members in 2024. No criminal
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: charges have been filed at the time, but we know
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: that it is an active case happening. Two years later,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: there's now a civil lawsuit. The criminal investigation has been
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: reopened and the New York's attorney general appointed a special prosecutor.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: We'll get into Trump's thoughts on that. But there's three
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: kind of reasons why this conversation has been as large
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: as it's been. The first one, which I really want
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: to get into, it's been really important. It's a conversation
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I've been having on decisions, decisions, horrible decisions for about
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: the last 10 years. And it's fucking consent. Because goddamn,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: what does consent actually mean? Especially, and here's the slippery slope.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to try to share some of my
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: personal experience while also having to navigate these conversations with
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: my homegirls. But consent when drugs and alcohol are involved, right?
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Two institutions. Maybe this ain't nothing new. This ain't a
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: culture that's new, especially when we talk about college campuses.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll weave in. here and, of course, add in
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: what happened at LSU because this is also something that's
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: been brought forth with a case there. So what responsibility
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: does a university like Cornell or any of these universities
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: have when something like this is being reported? And the
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: last topic, and we're going to weave into it, accountability.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: When the schools process, law enforcement, and the justice system
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: produce different outcomes, who are we supposed to trust? Who
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: are we supposed to go to? How are we actually
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: supposed to get things within these systems to stop these
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: types of acts from happening? Like, I don't understand how
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: we're still not preventative or proactive to these happening, and
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: now we're just reactive. Like, all I'm getting from all
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: these cases and conversations is reactions. But I'm not sure
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: what's being done to pre-prevent things now. And we'll talk about,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: as well, and I want to talk about New York
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: stepping in. But let's get into it. Is the Cornell
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: 7 case exposing a failure of individuals or a system
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: that still doesn't know how to handle fucking sexual assault?
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: And are we also in a place where women just...
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Don't get to be the victim. There's layers here. I
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: want to talk about it. Y'all know I'm very big
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: on having these conversations, so I love to have it
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: with two responsible, thoughtful men. But how do we navigate
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: these conversations and what should be had? Let's go. Also,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: let's just start with your thoughts on it all.
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: Well, you talk about preventative, right?
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: And like, you know, it's unfortunate that words like patriarchy
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: have turned into like these like buzzwords almost like a
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: slur that people kind of scoff at like as if
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: it's not a real thing or some shit that people
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: are making up but like the truth of the matter
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: is is that men as a whole all of us
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: all of us whether you've been accused of a sexual
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: assault or not, whether you've done a sexual assault or not,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: whether you know someone who you have a friend who's
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: a little too handsy, whether you know your cousin or
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: somebody who's in your close proximity is inappropriate with women.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: We've all done things to make it harder for women
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: to say that they've been assaulted and We've made it
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: harder for women to be believed that they've been assaulted. Like,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: niggas think this shit is actually rare. Like, people think
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: that rape isn't a thing that just happens a lot.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: It's just more often than not, niggas are getting blamed
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: for whatever dumb reason niggas want to come up with
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: for why women are just lying on men and trying
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: to make it like as if these things don't occur
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: on a regular basis.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: But even the lying on men, if you talk to women, right,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: every woman I know has an experience of being sexually assaulted.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: The stats, and I don't know, A-King, if you could
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: pull it up, but I want to say three in
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: every four women have experienced even an element of rape.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: And so what's crazy is on the other end when
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: we have these conversations, men act like they know no rapists.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Men act like they have nobody in... no man I
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: know be acting like, how?
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, somebody's lying.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: We only getting assaulted by the same three men in
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: the world. Like, I don't understand how as women we've
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: all held this experience, but men are still acting still
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: so oblivious to this. And even the apologists in the comments,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: men blaming this woman for being drunk, for being naked,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: for like the pure idea that people don't understand that
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I can consent to one thing and not consent to
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: something else within the bedroom.
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: It's crazy.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: It's mind boggling to me.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: It's actually crazy.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: At any point you have the right to say no.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: And I just don't understand how we're here. We're here
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: in a place where as a woman, you're still being
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: blamed for showing up and being with men. Do you
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: realize that a woman cannot be raped if a rapist
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: is not present? Right.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Hello.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: There's a, um, I saw this video and I have
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: some interesting stats here about that. Um, I saw a video,
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: I can't remember the exact terminology, but they, I'm going
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: to just summarize it as, um, compassionate consent when you're
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: in the act of lovemaking that there's levels, there's layers of, of, um.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: That question that you can ask, not without asking it.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Corny or whatever, where you're in the moment of it,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: but you're also respecting that this is a human being
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: that has the right to say, all right, I don't
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: want to do this anymore.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not with that, right.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: But one out, it says, the stats said that about
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: one in five women experience completed or attempted rape in
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: their lifetime, while roughly one in 14, two, one in
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: 33 men experience rape or attempted rape.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: This is the crazy part.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: People ages 12 to 34 face the highest risk.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: 12 to 34.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: 12 to 34.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Over 50% of victims first experience sexual violence before 25.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: About 80% to 85% sexual assaults are committed by someone
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: known to the victim, including what she just was talking about.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Acquaintances or intimate partners.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the other thing, right? Like, there was clearly.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Which is insanity.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Well, there was clearly a relationship with the woman and
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: this man.
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: The unfortunate part of this is I'm sure she was
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: completely unaware that he was in a group chat of
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: about 57 men.
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: Which is.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Where what happened here is he posted the photo and said,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: she going.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: As the new YNs are saying, she going. And he invited...
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Men to come in and partake. And what she ends
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: up saying is a gang rape. Now, there have been
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: a record. There's been a recording that released between the victim,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the Jane Doe, and one of the accused in what
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: really played back yesterday. Unfortunately, what we're also seeing are
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: these men coming out and now trying to uno reverse
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: card saying that, well, we were drunk, so you didn't
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: get my consent. It's disgusting the things that they're coming
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: out to say. I want to add to this. This
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: was a post posted by the Real DL Hughley. I
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: just saw that out of the 57 men on the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Cornell group, one of them was asleep while the rape
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: went down. And when he awoke and read the group text,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: he was upset and angry about it. He sent the
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: text and the screenshots to the victim for her use
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: as proof. That is the evidence that she is now using.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: So I guess one out of 57 men did the
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: right thing. And people still want to know why women
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: choose the bear. Now, it's crazy because she's getting shamed
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: as a woman for having consensual sex. And none of
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: these men are being shamed for the rape. In fact,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: this happened two years ago. And they were all able
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: to not only stay on campus and go to class,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: they were all just told to write her an apology letter. Now,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: one of them recently was let go from Wells Fargo.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: There's been just there's just been this is an ever
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: changing thing. I want to add to New York is
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: a state. The New York attorney general, Letitia James, is
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: replacing the D.A., but they are also looking to change
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: the law here in New York. And I'm not sure
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: if I saved the right link for that. Let me
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: see if I could say. But, yeah, I don't know.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: How do we.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Let me ask y'all personally, because I know y'all are
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: in the group chat with me and Dee and Yomi.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: What are these conversations or are y'all having this conversation
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: at all in your group chat full of men?
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: About this case?
• 37:39
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: We've talked about this case a couple times.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: What does it sound like? How are y'all moving this
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: conversation forward as men?
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: I think the thing that in my group chats with
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: my friends, I think one of the biggest things is
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: like we, and it's one of those things that I
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: hate about even men who are trying to be on
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: the right side of the issue. still say shit like,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: my sister and my mom and my cousin, my girlfriend,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: my wife, whatever the case is. And it's like, we
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: got to get past the part where any of that
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: shit matters. It doesn't matter if every single person you
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: know in your entire life is a man. You should
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: still be able to look at these situations and say,
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: this is fucked up. It shouldn't take a woman that's
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: close to you in your life for you to learn
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: how to be civilized, how to have empathy, how to
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: look at things in a fair kind of way.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: And so that's one of the main things I say
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: a lot is that, like, I get that niggas are,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I understand what niggas are saying when they say that.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Because I'm not saying that it's not true that if
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: you thought about your sister or your wife or someone,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: a woman close to you going through this, how that
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: would be hurtful to you. But that can't be the
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: reason why you learn... empathy, why you learn more information
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: about these subjects and why they keep happening.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Now, I want to go ahead and mark. So the
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: current law for New York, and this is, again, because
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: of this case, they're literally looking to update and change law.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: So let me go ahead and share with you all
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: what New York is doing. So the current law currently
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: states and differentiates. Let's get in here. The distinctions. New
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: York is one of 19 U.S. states that differentiate between
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: voluntary and involuntary intoxication when evaluating consent. So the loophole
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: is that under current state law, a person is considered
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: mentally incapacitated and incapable to consent. Primarily if an intoxicating
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: substance was administered to them without their consent, like being roofy.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Right. Correct.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: The gap, however, is if an individual voluntarily drinks alcohol
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: or consumes drugs and later becomes too incapacitated to consent.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Local prosecutors have historically faced a high burden of proof
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: or found the case. difficult to charge under criminal statutes.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: So what they're looking to do is to remove the distinction.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Lawmakers are looking to remove this to allow prosecutions, regardless
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: of whether intoxication was voluntary or involuntary. And this is,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I think, where I would like the conversation to go
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: to the most with both men and women. As someone
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: who likes partying, as someone who actually, through therapy, realized
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: my lack of comfort or lack of trust with partners
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: and drinking made me more free to do the things
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: with men that I honestly didn't really, you know.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: It lowered your inhibitions in a way.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: It lowered my inhibitions, but I realized how unhealthy and
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: how unsafe that was. And so in therapy, having that conversation, Like,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: there's been moments where I was with partners that I really, really,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: really loved or really liked or really was like, I
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: am going to fuck the shit out of you tonight
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: and had to wake up the next morning to ask,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: did we use a condom? How was it? What did
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: we do? What did I tell you to do? Because
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I literally did not even remember. And they would let
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: me know, no, you wanted it. And I'm sure I did.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: But the scariness of waking up the next morning And
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: consenting and not remembering.
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: And not remembering, yeah.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: And not being able to blame them because I'm one of...
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: And this is an awful thing to say, but there's
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: high-functioning alcoholics.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Where, again, your friend... Let's talk about a high-functioning alcoholic
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: real quick. Your friend that lets you know the next
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: day they don't remember how everyone got home, but that
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: was who drove you home.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: That's the functioning alcoholic, right? Where you can't tell... They
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: might not be slurring. They might not be falling over.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: But they're drunk.
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: They're just as drunk as everybody else.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: They are gone.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: And so for me, the conversation needs to be with
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: young men and young women around the inhibitions to drink
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: and have sex. And specifically for our youth and to
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: protect men more as well because they can't tell. As women,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, as men... You shouldn't be fucking a bitch
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: drunk at this point.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: You are rolling the dice.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: You are rolling the dice. And I think these are
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: the conversations that need to be had more like, hey.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: excited consent is what you should be going for.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Like they should be like, yes, sober consent is what
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: should be encouraged. If someone is inebriated, if someone is high,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: if someone is drunk, if someone had too much to drink,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: you have zero way of telling where they're at, on
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: that journey of completely not being sober or able to
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: give actual consent. You have zero, you have zero knowledge
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: to tell. You are not a goddamn breathalyzer.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Those aren't given out. If a woman is that, and
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: apparently that's another thing that makes this tricky. Jane Doe
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: in this case is saying, not only did she come
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: after hanging out at a bar, a sorority party, she
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: claims that She was over 10 shots in, 10 drinks in.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: That's an insane amount for anybody.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: For anybody.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: I don't care how big you are. It doesn't even matter.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: 10 shots of anything, you're going to be wasted.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: Blackout drunk.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: And so the discernment, I need men to discern that.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: And ladies, ladies, I get it. I've been there. I've
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: done it. I've got my coochie thumping when I had
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: a couple of drinks, a little shoom, a little something.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: But there's a, There's a thing that we have to
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: do as well. And it starts with like really caring
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: about our safety and ourself because a lot of people
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: aren't going to do it.
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: Unfortunately.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Some of our own family members don't really care about
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: our safety or have that concern. And so as women,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: we do have to find a way to be like, damn.
• 44:17
  Speaker 9: Nope. Not tonight.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take my ass home.
• 44:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Because also putting trust in men to handle you with care.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: We see how that goes.
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: And there's no right or wrong way to talk about this,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: but I think to me, in hearing this case and
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: talking to my homegirls and us reliving moments, that damn.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Ooh. It could have been worse for me, and I'm
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: glad it wasn't.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: And going out and trusting people and hopping in cars,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: I could have ended up in someone's luggage chopped up because,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: and so there's just, There's a conversation around how we
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: can enjoy life with all of these vices while staying safe.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: I think the part of it too is that it starts,
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: we got to get back to the basics. And I
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: think we have to have men who value women teach
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: other young men how to deal with women.
• 45:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: And not deal with women like how to talk to them,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: how to get them to like you.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: It's safety first. It's reading the room, learning the cues,
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: understanding what safety looks like. Understanding you should be in
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: a position where you're providing safety and it's okay if
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: she says, no, I'm not feeling it right now.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: And it's still okay. You got to be okay with that.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: That don't mean that just because she may be vulnerable
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: in that moment that you have the right to, you know,
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: to proceed.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: Sex education is just more you know it should be
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: more than just STDs and pregnancy yeah it should be
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: about how do you communicate and learn the opposite sex I.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Also want to talk about like this gets tricky too
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: because of course being in lifestyle in the kink space
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: there are women that do consent and want to experience
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: this right and I think what's disgusting about how the
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: frat boys are even trying to turn and flip this
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: One of the frat members says that she was the
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: aggressor and didn't ask him for consent. He says, I
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: remember the girl in specific saying something along the lines,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: this was normal in medieval times. Also later goes to
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: say that after expressing being uncomfortable, he still went forward.
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: Retreat.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Retreat. When you hear that, you know something. That's what
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: I was talking about. This should have been accused.
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: You know what?
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: This is not going to end well. I don't want
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: to be the responsible adult in the room. Like, yo,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: we should leave. If you're saying she was the aggressor
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: and you didn't know what it was, then that means
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: that if you're the one that's uncomfortable, then you should
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: stop as the man.
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: Then you should stop.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: It's not even about blaming her, but I'm just saying
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: if you're rational enough to conceptualize that... that, oh, she
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: was being super aggressive with me. He's like, well, nigga,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: you did not know what to do. You're not confused. Hey,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: this is not going the way I think it should go.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Let's back off of it. But one of the things
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: that pisses me off about this New York law, not
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: the new law that's being proposed, but the loophole, I
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: guess we'll call it.
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: Is that.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: It's trying to draw a distinction between voluntary and involuntary intoxication.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: The reason that doesn't make any fucking sense is because
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: the intoxication is the exact same.
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: The result is the same.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: If I decide to drink 10 shots of vodka, I'm
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: going to be drunk. If somebody slips me 10 shots
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: of vodka, I'm still drunk. It doesn't matter whether you
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: did it on purpose or not. It's totally irrelevant. So
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: the idea that there's supposed to be a loophole for
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: someone to say, like, well, I was drunk.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: The loophole that y'all are literally providing a scapegoat bullshit
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: argument for a rapist.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: For someone who literally.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Violated another human being. It goes back to this bullshit hypocrisy.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Can we stop acting like we care about human life
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: when it comes to abortion laws and what we can
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: and cannot do with our body when literally you do
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: not care what gets done to our bodies? What the
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: fuck are we talking about? I think it's interesting. Y'all
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: know how I told y'all to look through, if you're
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: dating somebody, look through their tweets. How they talked about
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Meg and how they talked about certain, you need to
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: go see how the people in your life are having
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: discussions around this goddamn case. Because if at any motherfucking
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: point in time, they lean into questioning Jane Doe and
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: whether or not she wanted this, you need to sit
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: down and have a really, really clear conversation with them
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: because this is the time we educate and fix the
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: loose screws in these motherfuckers' minds.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: And you know the thing that, and I still see
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: comments from this post today from an episode that we
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: had before and people really don't get it.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: No, they don't.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: The last episode that we had Antoinette on, you asked
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: a question about what kind of conversations black women should
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: have with their partners about some of these celebrity cases.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: And the comments is full of dumbass, loofing-ass niggas who
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: were like, that's what you talking about about relationship? What
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: the fuck that got to do with a real relationship?
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Are you talking about celebrities? Why not talk about God
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: and talk about who they were? Because they did that shit.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: And it's like, the fucking point, dickhead, is that you
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: can get to know how people think about these issues
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: based on these cases. It can be a conversation that
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: isn't about, because you're not going to ask nobody, what
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: do you think about rape?
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: Most people are going to be like, rape is bad.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: But so, no, don't... But then this is the great...
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: When you have a specific conversation about a specific case,
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: now they start telling on themselves.
• 50:12
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: They're turning all the information that they wouldn't just say
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: flat out because it sounds bad will come right out.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: But even that, there's seven men that violated this woman
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: If I hear a motherfucker say, well, we need more,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: I need more proof.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: More proof and more evidence.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Y'all become motherfucking detectives only to clear the treacherous acts
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: of these fucking men that you don't know. As if
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: you got to stand up for mankind to be racist.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: What are we fucking talking about?
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: But we can say easily that without any legal jargon,
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: without any court case, we can say definitively George Zimmerman
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: is a murderer.
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: Hello.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: He wasn't convicted.
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: He got off.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: We can say Donald Trump and his little cronies are
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: weirdo sex traffickers, pedophiles. We don't need five million court
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: cases for that. But when it comes to a woman
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: getting raped by seven people, now niggas want to turn
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: into Judge Judy and motherfucking have all the legal scholarship
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: in the world to try to figure out.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: To me, it's weird when it's a crime against women
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: done by men How many men feel personally attacked.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: That men behave this way? Why do you internalize that?
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: I don't understand.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: What? This isn't a gender war manosphere conversation, guys.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: At all. This is real fucking life.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: I can promise you I've never felt the way like
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: where I needed to be extra emotional about the possible
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: outcome or not of another scenario. You observe it. You
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: read what's going on. You look at what it is
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: and you make your observation.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: But not only the observation, you got to realize that,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: oh shit, I see what's happening here. I'm going to
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: see what's happening through this case. I hate that this
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: happened to this woman because it's so heinous. But damn,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: let me make sure I don't put myself in this position. Right.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Or I don't perpetuate the culture that uplifts this thing.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: So this idea of you now feeling attacked as a
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: man because we're talking about these seven rapists or this
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: case as a whole, it's just like, are you feeling...
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: If you're a man that feels personally attacked by the
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: conversations around this, you, sir, are uplifting, upholding, and a
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: part of the problem of this rape culture that we
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: have in existence today. What I also hate is that
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: y'all motherfuckers really act like and say that you don't
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: realize or... It's not until you get a daughter that
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: you understand.
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: I don't like any of that shit.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: I don't get that shit.
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: I don't like any of that shit.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: It takes you to be a girl dad and birth
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: a girl to actually care about women?
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: To care about women, yeah.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: How about for you motherfuckers who don't have daughters? You
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: just care about women because we're fucking human.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: Because you're a decent person. But I'm glad we got
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: to this point. Because they're over-hypersexual, too.
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: Well, that's true.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: They look at women as objects. Right.
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: And that's part of the patriarchy.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: And they're going to be in the comments, oh, you
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: knew this.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: No, it ain't about that.
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: Oh, no.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: I'm glad we got here because I'm about to read
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: something that's going to piss them off even more.
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: Let's go.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: Let's get it. So a group of people, activists, gathered together.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: to support this new law changing in new york okay
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: and one of the people in that group was a
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: woman named ashley staggers ashley staggers is actually miss manhattan
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: she's a beauty pageant winner so she is a current
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: miss manhattan okay and um One of the— let me make
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: sure I get this person. He is a— Carl Heastie. He
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: is a Bronx Democrat State Assembly speaker. Okay.
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: He is one of the people who— let me make sure here.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: So he has basically declined to push this measure forward,
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: this law change.
• 53:53
  Speaker 9: Oh.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: And Ashley Staggers at this press conference, for lack of
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: a better term, One of the pushbacks that people like
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Heastie had about changing his law was the fear that
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: because black men and Latin Latino men often face unfair
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: trials in the criminal justice system, that this law change
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: might aid.
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: In that change.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: And that deference, that bias against black men and Latino women,
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: Latino men. And here's what Ashley Stagger said that is
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: going to piss off a lot of these obtuse niggas. Loofing?
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: These loofing niggas. Loofing twos. Loofing twos. Loofing twos.
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: That's crazy.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: So she says, Assembly Member Heastie, justice for black men
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: cannot come at the.
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: Expense of justice for women.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: So what she's talking about is.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: You're afraid that black men will be treated unfairly because
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: of this change in law. And I'm talking about women
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: who have you talking about the hypothetical thing that might happen.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: And we're talking to you about women who have actually
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: been raped, not a hypothetical rape, not a hypothetical sexual assault,
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: a real thing that happens. So the question really becomes
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: the core of this question really becomes. For people who
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: are pushing back against this, what are we valuing in society?
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Are we valuing the people who actually get done dirty?
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Or are you trying to value the people who might
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: hypothetically could possibly be affected in some kind of obscure
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: way by change in a law? And I would posit
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: to everybody that the person that we always need to
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: censor who needs to be protected the most are the
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: people who are being done a pawn.
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: And so whatever.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Of course, I don't want anyone to be falsely accused
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: and go to jail for some shit that they didn't do.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: But that's not the point of laws. The point of
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: the law is to protect the people who were victimized.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: And if those things... If someone gets falsely accused of something,
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: then let's find the best way to adjudicate that and
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: find what we need to do to prove that that
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: wasn't actually the case and go about their business.
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: But for people who have been.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: actually done wrong, those are the people who deserve the justice.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: It just sucks because this goes back to the lack
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: of empathy for promiscuous women, sex workers, porn stars.
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: You don't deserve.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: You don't deserve the empathy because you signed up for it.
• 56:35
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: And no one signs up to be violated.
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: That's not a thing.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: No one signs up to be disrespected.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: That's not a thing.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: And again, just know a woman can consent, For a
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: lot of things. And in the middle of it, say,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I don't like this.
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: Take it away whenever she wants to.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: And take it away.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: And men, you too. Yes.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: If a woman is doing something that does not feel
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: good to you in the moment, you could say, you
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: know what, this isn't working for me. And you have
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: the power to stop it. Consent can change at any moment.
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: Consent is not in perpetuity.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Hello. Consent is not in perpetuity. I can say right now, yes,
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: I want to do X, Y, and Z. And then
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: you start doing it. I don't like that. Let's stop.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: You can't be back. Well, a second ago, you just said,
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: then let's just... That's like, come on, man. Y'all got
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: to be smarter than that. If you're not smarter than that.
• 57:22
  Speaker 11: Well, fuck it.
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: Catch a case.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: Fuck it. And go to prison. And go to prison.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: And we're not.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the other problem.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Fuck it.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: These niggas not. They're not fucking going to goddamn jail.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: That's a goddamn fucking motherfucker. And that's part of this law.
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: Well, that's why Letitia James was about to put belt
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: to ass.
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: Come on, Letitia James. Yeah, bring that shit out.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Well, let's go ahead and get into another case. While
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: speaking of sexual assault.
• 57:43
  Speaker 11: Oh, damn.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Another one. Another one.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Hey, now this one.
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: This one's a little different.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: This one's a little different. This one we might have
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: a couple. We're not going to conflate two names. Two
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: names can be different.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, we're going from New York City right down to Georgia.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I'm going to play a clip. A Georgia woman went
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: to the internet and pleaded for help. After being homeless,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: she said that she was mislabeled a sex offender after
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: being fired for having an intimate relationship with an inmate
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: while she worked at a jail. And this is what
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: she had to say.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: It's time for me to tell my truth. I'm going
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: to make this as quick as I can.
• 58:26
  Speaker 9: Clayton County has labeled me as a sex offender because
• 58:29
  Speaker 9: I got in trouble back in 2022. They charged me
• 58:33
  Speaker 9: with sexual contact by law enforcement. or agent because I
• 58:37
  Speaker 9: had a mutual relationship with a grown man while I
• 58:41
  Speaker 9: was working there.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: Things did go far.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, I was wrong. Am I a sex offender? Hell no.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: I have been living with this label for almost three
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: years now.
• 58:53
  Speaker 9: I've lived in a trailer with no running water.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: So you can only imagine what I've been doing to.
• 58:58
  Speaker 9: Try to use the restroom or just make food.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Fast forward.
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: You're bad.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Gave me a date to get off probation, which was
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: June 21st.
• 59:10
  Speaker 9: 29th because they know that in my paperwork it says
• 59:13
  Speaker 9: I cannot be around.
• 59:14
  Speaker 8: Children not even my own children so I was forced
• 59:18
  Speaker 8: to get off before I gave birth they went out
• 59:20
  Speaker 8: because I was pregnant and so it pushed me back
• 59:23
  Speaker 8: and they know damn well that they were going to
• 59:25
  Speaker 8: try to take my son from me or separate me.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: From my son.
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: She got the game fucked up.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Now, it continues. Now, this is Mary Moore, who was
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: charged in 2022 over this sexual contact. She went on
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: a press run and tried to act like we didn't
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: have sex, though. There was oral sex that happened. By
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: the way, the jail did obtain video footage, which has
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: not been leaked. But in this case and for this charge,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: there was video evidence of this inappropriate relationship happening. That
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: happened between these two consenting adults.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: Oral sex is sex.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: But now let's get into two consenting adults and there's
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: still being consequences here, right? So she says that due
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: to housing restrictions and all the things because she is
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: now labeled a sex offender, it's been hard for her
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: to find a place to live or to stay with
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: family and friends because if y'all don't know, Once you
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: on that registry, hun, you can't be near a school,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: a park. I don't know where. Nicki Minaj got to
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: be living in the woods. But once you are on
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: this registry, it gets pretty complicated. Now, here's where, baby,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Grace didn't enter the chat with Mia. Now, sex offender, yes.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: And you know why?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Because of the terms and conditions, bitch. What you signed
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: when you agreed to take that job removed any rights
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: for you to consensually engage in sex with any of
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: the inmates. But the other element here that is really
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: big Is the power dynamic.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: There you go.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: That's what makes you a sex offender.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: That's what makes you a sex offender.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Piggyback him.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: For the same reason that, like, technically, like, if you
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: want to keep it a buck, like, Bill Clinton could
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: be looked at as a sex offender.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: Because, like you said, the power dynamic. If you have
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: that level of power over someone, if you're a CO
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: and you're having sex with an inmate, no, they can't,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: even as a grown adult, no, they can't consent because
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: you have the power to make their life a living hell.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: You have the power to punish them, to have complete
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: control over this person, in this case, a prisoner. No,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: there is no consent.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I think that's my other part of this, right? If
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: you know the consequences of something and you do it
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: anyway in hopes of not being caught, you don't get
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: empathy later. You don't get to say it was a mistake.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: My bad.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: You knew the consequences going in. Like my nigga, if
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: you rob a bank and down the line, you're like, damn,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: I made that mistake and robbed a bank. Well, bitch,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: you knew it was illegal when you did it. If
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: you steal something, robbing a bank is probably to the extreme.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: But it's just like, I made a mistake. Like, imagine
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: if these seven Cornell men got to just say, I
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: made a mistake. Like, if we're going to handle sexual
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: assault or sex in a way that isn't leaving someone, like, again,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: with the power dynamic, that man probably felt like he
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: had to get his dicks up, which is crazy.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: I hear the ignorant take coming. Uh-oh!
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: Uh-oh.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: I don't... I'm looking at these laws. Oh, God. She
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: might be predatory.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, here we go with the.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: I think she has a case to fight if she
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: had the resources. Only based on language.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Give me the... Are you looking for the state of Georgia,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: by the way?
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: Yes. Now, the thing is... Talk to me. Now, this is...
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not an attorney. I don't know. I'm just thinking about...
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: How these things happen. Our grandmamas always say the flesh
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: is weak. Yeah. And a brother in jail... I don't
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: think he was offended.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: I don't think he was in a position where he
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: looked at it as he's being violated.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: I think he saw it as a beautiful, wonderful opportunity.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure he did.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: The problem in this scenario, she got caught on camera
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: on 4K. So now other.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: People have- Or 1080p.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: 720 maybe.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: But they saw it and they're like, oh, that's Letitia,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: whatever her name is. And they put that label on her, right?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: They cast her out as a result. Yes, you're not
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: supposed to be doing that. I don't know if she
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: is a sexual offender. She did the violation, of course. Offender,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: I would... Now, I'm not a lawyer. I'm just saying.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: That for those out there.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: Did he come to authority to say, yo, I'm being
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: violated by this correction officer?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: Well, I.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: But again, the same way.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: We look at consent, right? It's a relationship that shouldn't
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: have happened. Like the same dynamic of, now we're going
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: to pedophilia.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: A little bit. Go ahead and say it, because I'm
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: with you. I'm about to say the same thing.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing? No, because listen, I'd say who
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: else wasn't offended and who didn't feel a type of
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: way and enjoyed what was going on when it was
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: going on? Kylie Jenner. When she was dating Tyga. I
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: don't think that Kylie Jenner thought anything was wrong with
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: what was going on, but you know what? It was
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: still wrong.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: You're talking about in the age difference? Yeah, the age difference.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: She didn't go to authorities and say that Tyga sexually
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: assaulted me. She didn't go to authorities and say Tyga
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: drugged me or pushed up on me or did.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 6: Something that I was uncomfortable with.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: So the inmate that was clapping her cheeks- That's probably
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: the same age bracket. Probably the same age bracket, but
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: the point... I guess what I'm saying is that even
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: if he didn't feel like he didn't have a problem
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: with what was going on, it's still wrong on her part. No,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: I get the wrong, but should she be deemed as
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: a sexual offender? I don't have it.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: My only thing is, yeah, she violated whatever the code
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: of conduct is as a correction officer.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: However, the labeling... Of sex offender? I mean, to me,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: if you take advantage of someone... And a power dynamic.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I guess the question is, this is
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: going to sound ignorant as hell because it really doesn't
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: matter in the grand scheme of things. But let's say
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: the situation wasn't in prison and it was just two
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: people out on the street. Clapping cheeks. No, no. But that's,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: but would she be? Would that man have allowed to
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: smash that lady?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 9: Maybe.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: Would he been would they have had sexual intercourse if
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: there wasn't a dynamic of this is the CEO and
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: I'm the prisoner and I'm in here and I just
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: I want to fuck something. So she took advantage of
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: the opportunity and opportunity.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: And so to me, taking advantage of something makes you
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: an offender. Fair.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 6: Now, like you said.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know the legal jargon there. Yeah, I don't
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: know the legalities behind this. Again, there could be loopholes or,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: like you said, language that makes things different.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: They're basically saying she can die because if she's not
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: in any type of living conditions that.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Meets the standards.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, here we go. Here we go. You ready?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Uh-oh. I was looking for it.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 8: There you go.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: I got it.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 6: What's up?
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: The key Georgia law. is that an incarcerated person legally
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: cannot consent to sexual contact with certain correctional employees who
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: have authority or supervisory responsibility over them. Georgia's sexual assault
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: statute specifically covers sexual content between people in positions of authority,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: including COs, and people in their custody or supervision.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: That's it.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Even if the jail employee and inmate both describe the
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: relationship as consensual, but the inmate agreed to it, generally
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: isn't a defense under this statute. And the law treats
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: the power imbalance itself as the problem. So the employee
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: controls or participates in a system controlling the incarcerated person's movement, privileges, discipline,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: and safety.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: So under Georgia.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: Law, bitch.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: You literally... This person cannot legally consent.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: Well, you know how they say that inmates are like.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: Slavery still exists if you're an inmate and you're working
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: to make license plates or sewing shirts for pennies a
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: day like you're a slave. When you're a slave, you're
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: not a person. When you're a slave, you're not a human.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: So you don't.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: Have any agency. You don't have any consent. You don't
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: have any authority. You are basically controlled by another person.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: And that person, in this case, is... This woman.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: And again, I know there's a lot of comments, too,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: under these posts that bring up, like, the Baltimore CO,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: or there was, like, five women that got all pregnant
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: by the same man. Again, when you have certain jobs,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: when you take on certain roles in different institutions, baby,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: look up them laws in your state, huh?
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. The flesh is weak, Mandy.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: Hello?
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: The very.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: When that coochie start. All right.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, listen, I ain't going to hold you.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: You said five women got pregnant by the same inmate?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: What are we talking about? Hey, hear me out.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Hear me out. Hear me out.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: That nigga was thumping.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: Yo.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: They was on schedule. You see how we got our
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: recording scheduled? I got five guests tomorrow. And a bonus.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Listen, and I know there's some fine shit in jail.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: It's why I would never apply to work. I don't
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: know if I would not be tempted to sleep with
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: fine shit. No, it's funny because I ain't watching it yet,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: but you see the new Tyler Perry movie. It's about
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: this man that get out of jail. And so I
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: saw a comment that was saying, Damn, ladies, all of
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: our soulmates, we just got to wait for them to
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: get out of jail. Get the fuck out of here.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's like romanticizing.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Tricky.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: Well, they don't have apps about that where you can
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: go on an app and have like 10 pounds.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, it made their time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: And that's another thing. To be fair, there's a lot
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: of women that are broken and love the power dynamic
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: of knowing where they mean is at all times.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Like, I've had friends date men in jail who loved that, ooh,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: I know exactly where he is every night. And he
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: not outside in the streets with these bitches. So, I
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: get it, but you know, it's tricky.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 6: Or some women who think they can fix niggas.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's a whole, that's a whole, that's a whole nother,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: that's a whole nother thing.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Y'all, this is not a sports podcast, but, however, Texas,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Texans linebacker Aziz Alshier was told by an NFL official
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: to remove the name of Wafa Akilah, an eight-year-old Palestinian
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: girl killed in Gaza. He had the name written under
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: his eye patch and he pretty much came out and said,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: you know, that he was told that he would not
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: be allowed to continue playing if he continued to politicize
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: his under-eyed things. Now, It's getting tricky out here now.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: They're wanting to stop Palestine support or get banned or
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: remove you from tours. And I just, again, don't understand
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: why so many people are okay with being on the
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: bad side of history here. Like, why is it bad
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: that we don't want a genocide? Like, again.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: Mandy, it's the powers that be that fund this shit.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: So you are the mercy of the dollar that breeds
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: the power. So you do as I say, nigga, or
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: don't play again.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Imagine you dating someone, you being family members or friends
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: with an individual who is enraged by you caring about
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: the death of a child. That makes sense. And I
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: guess that's where we need to check more of the
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: people the fuck around us. How are you as a
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: ref or institution or business or an owner or whatever?
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: Enraged at someone just saying, these children, I wish they
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: would stop being killed. How does that enrage you enough
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: to like try to ban somebody from participating in a
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: goddamn sport or for singing at a stadium or for
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: being an employee at this job? Like, or how?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: It's like this shit is, it's the thing that goes
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: on in a lot of situations nowadays that people, I
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: really wish people could let go at least be self-aware
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: enough to let go, is this like reflexive defensiveness. Like
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: a little while ago, we talked about, you know, women
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: say things about men and a self-aware man doesn't have
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: to take that personally. You're not talking about you. So
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: you don't have to be automatically reflexively defensive to be like, nah, nah, nah,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: because you don't got to do that, bro.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 6: You don't have to do that.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: And I think a lot of times that's what it
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: comes down to is that some of it is disingenuine
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: because people just think that I guess Israel can do
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: no wrong, which I think is weird.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: Because, like.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: So weird.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: What country can't, like... Can't do no wrong. Can't do
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: no wrong. Like, they're countries. They do wrong. That's kind
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: of the point.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Well, because they're led by human beings.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Countries ain't even, like, their own... They are ran by
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: human beings making terrible fucking decisions.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: And it doesn't make no sense to me because.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 6: Especially when it comes.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: To this Israel thing, because we all know that in
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: Africa right now, there are dictators. There are black people
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: doing bad things to black people. And there are people
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: in America who would call it out. We say free Sudan.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: So we know that there's bullshit going on, even in
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: the country of Africa. We would never be able to
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: convince people that if we criticize those dictators doing human
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: rights violations to us in Africa, that calling it out
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: is racist against black people.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: Mm.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: Mm. Like what world would that ever exist that you
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: would say like, oh, Boko Haram kidnapped the girls. He say,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: bring back our girls. And no one would ever be like, oh,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: it's anti-black because you're talking bad about other black people.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: Like that's not the, niggas are doing some bullshit. So
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: I don't understand the whole PR that went behind making
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: Israel be an avatar for all Jewish people.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 6: This shit is weird to me.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: But also, in regards to this specific story.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because, like, even when I go overseas, I don't
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: take it personal or anti-U.S. when they say that the
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Orchida running our fucking country is dumb as fuck. Like,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: the things that.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: No, but they don't say that. They do blame... They
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: put us under the umbrella.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: Because they are... Well, because they don't know.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 6: Right, right, right.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: Like, people's opinions on how the country is ran and
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: the decisions that our president is making or Congress or...
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: I don't take it fucking personal or think that they
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: are anti-American because they are against what's happening in this country.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: So that's where I agree with Jah. I don't understand
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: how us.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: And when I say us, the people that are free
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Palestine are anti-genocide or against what Israel is doing to
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: this part of the world and to these people. I
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: don't understand how the Jewish people are taking it as
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: a personal attack because we are critiquing the actions that
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: their country are doing against another.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: There's not a single country or politician in the world
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: who should be above.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 9: Hello.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 6: Being criticized. Like, that shit is weird to me. Because
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 6: to me, all that says to me, so you're.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: Telling me that you love Benjamin Netanyahu that bad that
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: you like, ah, you can't say nothing about my daddy. Like,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: what are you? That shit is weird.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: It's weird.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: Or maybe they just want to stay clear of. Well,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: clearly they're not saying clearly because we know about it.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: Maybe the intent is to just, hey, we don't want
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: no parts of that conversation completely. I'm just thinking about
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: what an NFL owner would think.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: You're talking about from a corporate lens.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, from an NFL owner probably. Listen, we just start
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: winning over the last couple of years.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: But I think that's the problem, right? And we talked
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: about it. The fact that someone at a college level
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: is invested in politics, politics has gotten to a point
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: where you're not caring about it in your 30s. Like
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: when I was in my early 20s, me and my
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: friends weren't sitting around talking about this.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: At all.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: Politics have now become pop culture globally, right?
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 6: It's a bar.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: And that's where we're now holding conversations as adults. And yes,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: maybe this was a thing our parents talked about, but
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: seeing someone who's 19, 20, in college, having this much wherewithal.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: No, NFL.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no. Texans.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's the Houston, yeah, NFL.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, Houston Texans.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: But no, but to your point, he's still, he's aware,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: and he cares. I mean, it hit deep for him.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: It hit deep for him.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: And so I'm just like, damn, it took me probably,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: I voted for Obama, but was I this invested?
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: I voted for Obama.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Because he was black. But when we get to getting
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: older in age now, us talking about the midterms, us
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: talking about our local seats, it matters. I don't know.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: It's also crazy hypocrisy for the NFL from the standpoint
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: of post Colin Kaepernick kneeling, They were going out of
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: the way. I mean, I just Googled this shit because
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: I knew it existed. But like, you can see right here,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: there's one, two, three, four, five. All of these NFL
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: stadiums all have end racism.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: End racism.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: Choose love. All of these messages. So I understand that
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: there's a policy about putting personal messages on your equipment
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: or whatever in the NFL.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: It's essentially what they're blaming him for.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: But also... The NFL is saying, we will choose what causes- What.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: We get to politicize.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 6: What we get to politicize.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: We get to choose what we get to politicize. Even
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: if you don't agree with it, a player, because there's
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: clearly probably some players in the NFL who don't want
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: to end racism.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 6: There's probably some.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: Crack-ass crackers in the NFL who love nothing more than
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: to hit a nigga, hang a nigga, kill a nigga.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: And they probably don't agree with this shit at all.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: But the NFL has decided we're going to end racism,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: so that's what we're going to put on it.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 6: And if you don't agree with it, tough titties.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: So with this brother, I'm like, what are y'all really saying? Yeah. Well, also,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: he's a Muslim, too. Let's not discredit that part.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Well, and that's, again, I'm sure there's a silencing of
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: that as well.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, that's why I said that the owners of Pride,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: and I don't know, I'm just assuming, based on their behaviors,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: is that they're probably like, listen, we don't want to
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: be in the part of the conversation.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: I hate this because I love when, like, I do.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: I love the conversations around these things taking place.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: Now, y'all.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: We do have people out here saying some bullshit, too.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 6: Every day.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: So let's get into our last two topics, y'all.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: People say bullshit every day, B.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: Up first, this is a TikToker, not a celebrity, but
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: the conversation was really interesting. And again, having all these
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: conversations that we're having around consent, around sex, around shit,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: two people engaging in anything together, a TikToker went viral,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: a black woman, TikToker, went viral for saying that black
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: men are extremely hard to love.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: Check this out.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: Nobody wants to say this out loud.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: So nobody wants to say this out loud.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 6: Because it's stupid. That's why.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: I don't care if you guys bash me or shame me.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: Black men are extremely hard to love.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: Case closed.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: Now, actually, if we want to reopen that case, we
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: can actually get into some things. Like, as a collective,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: Black men are extremely hard to love. They will make
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: you perform to be chosen. Half of the time, they
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: don't know what they want or what direction they're going in.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: A lot of them don't have any purpose. And these
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: same men that don't have any purpose want you as
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: a Black woman to perform femininity. And even when you
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: are feminine, they always find a way to raise the goalposts.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: Whether they have daddy issues due to.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: Their mother literally emotionally neglecting them as a child, or
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: they have daddy issues because they either didn't have a
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: father or the father that they had didn't show them
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: any form of healthy masculinity. Then in another aspect, you
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: have black men who are consciously going around asking black women,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: what do they bring to the table? As if my
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: uterus is not the table.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: That you come to i know to.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Feast here to make dinner here to fellowship here black
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: men have lost the plot and the art of how
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: to love properly in a healthy way despite the environments
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: that they've grown up in and the relational dynamics that they've.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: Been accustomed to.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: And she's Caribbean and she's from Brooklyn Jesus Christ.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: How do you know all this I see it I'm
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: not wrong and I hear it I'm not wrong I'm
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: not wrong how'd you come up for your own bro now.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: Oh man she read half the book you know I also.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: Love that you brought up her Caribbean-ness because that leads
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: us to the next topic but I'm curious as when
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: we talk about like yes I get the manosphere conversations
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: but when you see this especially coming from a black
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: woman how do you respond And what is your response
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: to hearing this?
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: Where's her grandmother?
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, also probably crying over the grandpa that ain't
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: treat her right. But I'm not going to leave.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: You know what you always say? Talk to the lady.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: Everybody get hurt. Yeah.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: We all go through relationships. I always leave by saying
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: no one owns anyone. And in relationships, you just got
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: to take it for what it is in the moment.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: And if you should have many moments, it's a blessing.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: And even if you don't, it's a blessing because you
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: have the journey to get to. Sweetheart, whoever hurt you,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: whatever situation you think, that does not... You're young. You
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: have tons of life to live, tons of experience to have.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: Don't bring that shit on the internet. Talk to the lady.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: Talk to your mama. Talk to your auntie. Talk to
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: your grandmama.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: Let them tell you what black men love supposed to be.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 8: I want.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: my people freed from the bondage of.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 6: Unnecessary generalities.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: Like some of the stuff that she was saying about
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: men wanting women to perform femininity, what do you bring
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: to the table? All of that kind of stuff. The
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: uterus is her fucking... There was a lot of things
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: that she said that I think are valid critiques of
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: how some people behave. The problem is, why are you
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: acting like it's black men who just do that? Because
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: you don't think that it's a bunch... The whole red
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: pill thing, the whole trad wife thing is about... Is
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: led by white people. Is led by white people, and
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: they want all of their white women to do all
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: the shit she's talking about. If you go to some
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: of these other cultures where, you know, right now they're
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: preaching about....
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 6: They're trying to instill fear.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: Of Muslims and Sharia law and all that kind of shit.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 9: Yep.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: They would put some of those same type of things
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: on their women as well. So why the fuck are
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: you making it as if black men are somehow holding
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: the keys to this particular issue? It's just men in
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: general who are holding key.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: But why do niggas... I don't understand that.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: Even in the comments section, I see black people are
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: the only ones that hate on our own.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 6: You think all white people like each other?
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: And they don't.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 6: You think all Asian people like each other?
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: And they don't.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 6: So what are you talking about?
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: I don't understand these dumbass talking points from these people.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: I hate that shit so bad because to me it
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: just says, just say you don't like niggas. Just tell
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: me I don't like my black skin. I don't like
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: your black ass. I don't like nobody black. But don't
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: try to make it as if... These issues are somehow
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: siloed to the black community because everybody got some of
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: these same problems across cultures and lands and languages and everything.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 6: So what the fuck are you talking about?
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: I don't think it was that deep. I think she
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: just threw the grenade and went back and said, yes.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think she hurt. She looks young.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: It's crazy because I also think she may be just
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: being spoken to by the grifters online, right?
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: So there's one specific one who actually was on the
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: CultureCon stage, which surprised me because I think that he
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: does more harm than good to our community.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 6: Uh-oh.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: And I say that he's known as like the fairy
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: godfather or something like that. His name is Anwar White.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 8: Oh.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: He was on... our podcast at one point. And I
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: didn't like a lot of what he said because to me,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: he is a black gay man married to a white
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: man creating content specifically for black women, charging them as
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: a coach to help them find love while also saying,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: Black men aren't the easiest to love, so you should
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: probably try to date outside of your race. And he
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: is telling Black women how to date heterosexual men. Make
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: it make sense to me, but also I am not
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: here for any Black man, Black gay man telling Black
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: heterosexual women how to navigate heterosexual dating while also pushing
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: the agenda that their love may be another color. Because
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: to me, what the fuck are we doing?
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: You never, he's never seen, like, those type of, people
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: like that make me wonder, like, have you ever seen
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: no true crime stories? Have you never seen The Pastor's Wife? Hello.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: Have you never seen The Death of a Pastor's Wife?
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: Have you never seen, like, any of these stories of
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: white men? Have you never seen Jeffrey Dahmer? Have you
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: never seen John Wayne Gacy? You never seen no stories
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: of no white men that fuck up women?
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: Yet again, The villainization, if that's even a goddamn word.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: It is now, goddammit.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: Of being black.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: That's all it comes down to, just being black.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: Let's villainize black women for being too strong and too loud.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: Let's villainize black men for... having the trauma and maybe,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: you know, working through showing up as their best selves.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: But like, bro, we're human and we don't get it right.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: But to sit here and act like you right, them
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: other races ain't dealing with this shit. Get the fuck
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: out of here.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: I don't understand that shit. Like, what do you think
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: is going on out here? So we're the only ones
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: with problems.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: Well, well, here's the other problem within our community. Apparently
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: we continue diaspora wars.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 6: Oh man.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: So y'all last topic of the pod. God damn it.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: Actor Da Vinci, who y'all may know from, I think, like,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: Power Book.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: BMF.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: BMF.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: There we go, BMF. Is receiving backlash for his comments
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: around Black Americans. He went on Cam Newton's show, Freaky Friday,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: and this is what he had to say.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 6: I had, like, work ethic. I was determined.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 11: Like, I said, I could take care of myself, like,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 11: fully at, like, eight years old. But in America, to
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 11: you guys, the way that culture have like moved.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 6: Majority of its citizens.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 11: It's like, you're just incompetent for a really long time.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 6: Do you think that that's.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 11: A country thing or a personal thing?
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: I think this country promotes that.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 11: I think, because this country promotes, I don't.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: Think it promotes like.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 11: Like us like really like being able to think critically
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 11: and being like hard workers being able to think outside
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 11: the box right and usually people don't don't get me
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 11: wrong other countries they have their things too but i
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 11: just think like we're just more big like when you're
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 11: in america you have such a lack of exposure on
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 11: what's happening outside of the world because you don't kind
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 11: of care about any other country but every other country
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 11: is like i want to be american like i.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: Have now hold on i want to be american we have.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 11: The best football best basketball best rappers best actors best
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 11: so it's just like they're like yo keep it up
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 11: with us but it's like You don't need to keep
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 11: up with the XFL.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 6: Can I disagree? Oh my goodness, please do.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 11: But I would say, but that's why, that's why I
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 11: do think some producers probably just like, you know what,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 11: we want an overseas actor because they're probably going to
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 11: be more focused.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: They're probably... Oh yeah.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: Well, I think the expanded conversation was how the outside of,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: how outsiders view us.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: Well, not only that, his.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: The overall sentiment was him sharing the differences between Caribbean
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: and American culture. And he particularly went into describing work
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: ethic and just saying that. and mind you, to be fair,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: these conversations aren't new. We talk about how African parents
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: and households want their children to be doctors, lawyers, and
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: they instill education differently than we have it here in
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: the States. So it's weird because I don't think what
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: he said was, Fully wrong, but of course people can't
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: sit with nuance.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: And I like how he presented that.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: Well, he done lost 200,000 followers. And the internet is
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: dragging him for filth. And this is what I don't
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: understand either is there is a distinction and difference. And
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: we're aware that when you grow up on an island
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: or when you're raised by immigrant parents or the Caribbean,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: that the culture is different than ours. Black American culture.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised that this is getting.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: So much heat. I can tell you firsthand.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: You and I both?
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 6: You can't.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: It's education always first. And you're striving. Doctor, lawyer, everything
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: else but the creative shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: Because they look at the creative shit. My dad didn't
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: even like me bartending. He was like, let me know
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: when you're going to get a real job.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: A real job. Like, he's really, yeah.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: The creative shit is taking risks. And they're like, nah, man,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: over here is no risk.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: You can do a guaranteed thing. And you can contribute
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: to society in a larger way. I get that. You know,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: it's raising the bar, if you will.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: I don't think nothing's wrong. He didn't say none of
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: that shit, in my opinion, in a harmful way. I
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: think it should open more discussion.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 6: Not, oh, we're going to unfollow him.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: And that's the fake outrage I hate with the internet.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: I actually want to give y'all some of the top
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: two comments to me that I saw. So there is
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: someone that said incompetent because we were actually being children
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: at eight years old. Sorry if my parents wanted me
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: to be a kid while they were the adults. What
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: adult actually brags about having to grow up so fast?
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: That's actually traumatic as fuck. But OK, Da Vinci. And
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: the next one. And this is why where people are
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: getting mad. Calling the descendants of enslaved people incompetent while
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: ignoring the historical conditions. that shape the very society that
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: they inherited is an incompetence and analysis in itself. You
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: can't critique the outcome while benefiting from the history that
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: produced the conditions.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: This is one of those, watch the whole shit, because
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: it's too much to unpack in that little clip.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Okay. Not you, I'm saying everybody who's commenting.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you this.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: We can do that shit.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: Because here's another thing. Do you believe, and this is
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: maybe the sentiment, that people specifically, black people from other countries...
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: think that they're better than black Americans.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: I think some, I mean, the diaspora war is like
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: based on that, right? Like some people have espoused those
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: type of opinions about black Americans a lot since the
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: diaspora war started about, well, over here, we don't do that.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: And over here, this is what y'all, this is all
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: y'all care about and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: I just wonder, like, I don't know. When people say
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, though, it makes me wonder, like, DaVinci
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: has acted on shows with.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: Oscar award winning actresses.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 9: Yep.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: With talented people who work hard. So are you saying
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: that you don't know no black people that work hard?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: That work hard.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: Because I only know black people who get up every
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: day and whatever they do, whether they're podcasters, whether they're writers,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: whether they work at a store. They're waking up in
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: the morning busting their ass to do the work that
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: they have chosen to do. to take care of their families,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: take care of themselves, to help other people, to make
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: society better. I don't, I'm not saying that there aren't bums.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: We always know there's bums, but like, what is, again,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: back to the generalization, like what is this generalization of
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: you think everybody's a bum?
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that that's the thing that for whatever reason, again,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: people lack the ability to dig into the nuance of it, right?
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: I think that, you know how like, There's certain words
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: that clearly, even that we can call each other, but
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: can't nobody else call it. I think even him expressing
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: just this sentiment, it's weird because a lot of us
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: have been saying, work ethic has dropped. Gen Z motherfuckers
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: don't want to work. Niggas want to not come into
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: work on time.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: Paid internships.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: And so for me, hearing people get so upset about
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: him saying this, as if we as a society, generationally,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: haven't been discussing recognizing that there is a lack of competence.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: And we talk about it from AI. We talk about
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: it from entitlement. We talk about it from a lens
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: that People now want to get paid a full thing
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: without even knowing what the fuck they're doing. They're doing
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: the bare minimum. Right. We constantly are having these conversations.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: And because this man is a Haitian American, is that why, like,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: is it the messenger that's making you upset? Because when
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: we have these conversations as a collective, we're actually saying
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: the same things he's saying. And what's also crazy, though,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: and I will say, the only thing that he does
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: get wrong in this, because of socioeconomic oppression and what
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: we've had to deal with, a lot of Black Americans...
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: have had to start working at an early age.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: Didn't get to just be a kid.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: So even seeing some people be like, sorry we got
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: to be a kid, that's privilege coming from you. Because
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of us who grew up in single-parent households,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: in households where we had multiple siblings, oh, baby, we
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: were learning how to cook early.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: Especially in the South.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: As soon as I could get a job, especially in
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: the South, as soon as I was legal age to
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: get a job, I was working at the Quiznos at 14,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: 15 years old. Then when the mall could hire me,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: I was there. A lot of my friends, a lot
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: of us had to work early and we did do it.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: So maybe this is more of a, and I don't
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: know his age, maybe this is more of a Gen
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Z observation because maybe us millennials, we've been fighting for
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: our life. But we've been working for a very long time.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: So this idea that... He's doing it from this lens.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's actually more of a generational lens and
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: not a Haitian American, Black American lens.
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  Speaker 6: It could be that.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that what you just said, I think
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  Speaker 3: to me is like the important point. If you're going
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  Speaker 3: to do that kind of generalization and some of those
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: commenters are saying like. The work ethic that you had
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: to develop at a young age is not because like,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: I'm eight years old and I'm ready to go to
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: the world. Niggas are trying to survive. That's not about like, yes,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: that can build a certain work ethic that can carry
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: you into your older years. But like, that's not, that's
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: a trauma response. trying to live that's not some oh
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: i'm just the strongest most most driven most ready to
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: go entrepreneurial person in the world at nine and i.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: Think that that's where he fucked up the incompetence of
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: americans as a whole should be leaned to technology the
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: lack of resources the defunding of fucking education the things
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: that are really taking place in this country that are
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: having the impact on why so many people are da-dun-da-duns.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: But to make it like a Black American thing, that
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: was kind of wrong. But I don't hate what he said.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: I hate that, again, there was a generalization of Black
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: people as if, the entire country isn't incompetent now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like, talk about.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: Again, yeah, it's like.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: You can talk about... No shade to y'all.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: Even saying no shade to y'all is crazy.
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  Speaker 6: You can talk about these things.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: Like, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: No shade to y'all. I wish people would be able
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: to talk about things without hyperbole or generalization. Because there's
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: valid points that you can make inside. If you want
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: to have that conversation, you can have that conversation. But
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: people can't... The generalization is whooping people's ass. They can't
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: just talk about things as a single issue or in
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: a vacuum. They have to make it about everything. It's
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: what everybody's doing. And I'm just like, bro, I don't
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: know what to tell you. That shit is just not
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: going to hold up when you say certain things about
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: a group of people who are proud of themselves. Facts.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: So I don't know. I would love for him to
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: come on the show.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: Me too, he lives in Atlanta. We got to reach out.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to lie. I mean, I
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: ain't going to hold you. His PR probably about to
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: lock his ass down.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: Like, he probably not going to be able to, like.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: Man, fuck that shit.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 6: You know the funny part?
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: Once you get on a platform and you start, you know,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: being free-flowing about shit, that's it.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: You're already out there.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing. I do want to say, and
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: I want to actually have Dominique Morgan on because she's
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: been going in.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: The last couple.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: Days on him. She went all the way back to
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: 2013 and was watching interviews. Or 2016. But she watched
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: about six of them. She read articles. She transcribed it.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: She posted it to her sub stack. And she has
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: a strong disliker affinity to what he's had to say.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: Well, one of the funny things that came out of
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: this is that there's a clip of Him on set
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: with Taraji P.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 6: Henson. And Taraji is roasting that nigga.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: And what she's saying in front of everybody is like,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: your lines sound rehearsed. You sound stiff. You sound like
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: you're not, not that you're not prepared, but you don't sound,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: you sound like you are a robot. Kind of. And
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: she's laughing about it. And he's like, damn, why you
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: got to say all that? But it's like, maybe take
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: your own advice then. Like, what is your work ethic?
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: How prepared are you to, when you show up on set,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: how prepared are you? Because apparently the Oscar winning actress
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: is looking at your performance and saying, mm, mm.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 6: So you can work harder.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 3: And you can probably take notes too.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 6: And you can probably take notes from what you're saying. Respectfully.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 3: But you can probably take some notes for what she's saying.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: But someone posted that clip in a response to what
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: he was saying. And I found that to be funny
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: of like, oh, so what is your work ethic? What
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: are you doing when you go home with these lines
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: and to do your job the best way that.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 6: You can do it?
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: Who knows? Da Vinci. Da Vinci. Come on down. Let's
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: have a convo.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 6: Let's talk about it, though. It could be an interesting conversation.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: Hey, I told y'all I wanted to have a whole
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: bunch of people on here that I disagree with.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: We could eat some black rice.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: We could find some more people I disagree with.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: All right, y'all.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: We made it to the end.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: We are.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: We did it.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: We mobbed.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 6: We did it. Mobbing through New York.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: Our first NYC episode as a unit. New York. It's
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: been up since 4 a.m.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: Listen, y'all will get some episodes. We got some really
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: dope guests that'll be coming on the pod through the
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: end of the year.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: We got Jason that we finally gonna get to. have
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: a foursome with in person.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow. That sounds like non-consent.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 6: Three dicks and one chick?
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I'm not going after y'all, though. Oh,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: my God.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not playing with y'all. Anyways, before we get out
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: of here, I wanted to leave y'all with some things
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: to look up because, again... The more you know.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: So Kendall Francis, that's the LSU student that has spoken
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: out about how her university failed her with her sexual.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: Assault as well.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 6: Another fucked up case.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: Another fucked up case, but also just something else to
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: compare it to. And then there was a documentary directed
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: by Kirby Dick and produced by Amy Zierig that released
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: in 2015 called The Hunting Ground. And the full-length film
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: investigates the epidemic of sexual assault on U.S. college campuses.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: So it tracks student survivors, including anti-rape activists Annie E.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: Clark and Andrea Pino from the University of North Carolina
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: at Chapel Hill as they battle administrative cover-ups, institutional pushback,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: and the complex Title VI reporting processes. It is available
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: to stream on Netflix. So again, while informing yourself, And
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: holding space for these victims and having the conversations to
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: actually affect and change and shake up this goddamn rape
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: culture of a goddamn system that we live in and
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: exist in. These are the types of documentaries and things
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: that you should kind of be up to date on
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: that you watch. And hopefully you're able to continue having
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: these conversations in your group chats.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: I like the new segment.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: Which one?
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: Another effed up case. Listen. Oh, yeah. I think that's
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: a new creation right there.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: Maybe go ahead and just let y'all know there's more
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: of these out here.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:41:12
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• 1:41:14
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