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Idolising Muslim celebrities (Amir Khan goes Ziyarah) · After Maghrib 🌙

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  Salaam alaikum, welcome back to the after Margaret podcast,
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  people viewers from around the world.
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  It's lovely to be back with you again.
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  Welcome back today we're calling after midnight because we are
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  recording pretty late in the day.
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  Always said, I need somebody from Malik was Salam
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  warahmatullah. 12:05 12:05 shall Allah, grants us the the
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  It's a Monday night. We're going to say Noble waves.
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  Hello everyone. Hope you're doing well in shot.
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  Life's been a bit of a crazy week.
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  We've been following the World Cup.
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  We've been preparing for for Tamir, of course, as we approach
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  the season. How's things been with you say?
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  I'm the last just today's been a bit different.
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  Yeah, well the previous day's was seasoned call.
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  Old it's freezing. So you he's like reaching some
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  very cold temperatures. Yeah.
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  Yeah, it's been crazy. I've been out the last few days.
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  I've been I've been really exploring my hometown.
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  I mean I've been touring London with some family.
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  Have the lights been bit crazy but it's been nice you know.
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  But I don't think I've ever realized how cold it can get
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  here. Yes.
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  Until until recently. Yeah.
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  And then other news there's also some interesting stuff that's
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  come out about a very well-known books.
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  As I'm sure many of us not Aamir Khan who is or Aamir Khan, as
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  many of us know, he's been big. The game for boxing for very
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  long time. Now, but why is he in the news
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  this week saying I'm here, Khan went to see the Emir of Iraq.
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  I said, see, I'm here means Prince.
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  Yes, so Prince, Khan went to see the prince of Believers.
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  Aha, Aamir Khan and another one on the Ciara.
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  Yeah, to visit you my mind in najaf as well as Norma
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  Christina. But for lab was in karbala so
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  there's been a lot of talk recently.
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  Yeah, about you know, is Amir Khan Now she ah yeah.
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  Or you know, why is he going there?
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  Who's your visiting, why is it going to the land of Sharky?
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  And they'll be like, surprising. Yeah, yeah, use from everyone.
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  Yeah, and I think that's kind of what we want to get into today,
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  to kick off the discussion to talk about him going because
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  obviously I don't think that itself is newsworthy.
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  Alone is shouldn't be in my opinion, but the fact that it
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  sparked off this like conversation about, whether we
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  care, why should we care what other people care is a big I
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  want to be honest. And then I think for us, I mean
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  when we were speaking before the podcast, we were talking about
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  how for a lot of people tolerance is something really
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  hard to accept or swallow and you know maybe it's something we
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  need to talk about because of course a box or an athlete or an
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  influence of going to visit a minimum of money nor going to
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  visit the holy sites. Of course we know in Islam,
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  there are the most holiest of sites are in Mecca and Medina.
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  Okay? That's universally accepted, you
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  know, across Muslims but from Muslim, regardless of their
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  background to go to visit minimott, manin and to go back
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  to karbala, and there's a table in front of us and by the law
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  for saying, shouldn't be a big deal.
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  Do you know what I mean? Like, if everyone claims to
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  Revere the, the family of the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu,
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  while it was on them, then shouldn't really be a big deal.
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  Shouldn't be a big deal at all. We know as Muslims.
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  Yeah. We must love the apple bits.
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  And that goes for everyone, not just for the sheer.
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  Yeah. And what's surprising?
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  You know, I'll mention a common like I saw One of the posts I
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  think it was on tape talking effects and one of the one of
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  the users on Tick-Tock mentioned, you know, okay.
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  We understand he went to visit, you know, in my Miley, the
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  fourth caliph. Yeah, and now Jeff However, the
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  fact that he went to the land of shirk basically is invalid
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  visitation and that's someone who's very active while new
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  world when it comes to you know try to get into shock.
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  Him guidance. Yeah.
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  It's crazy. So he's saying, I, for example,
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  he was claiming that the actual basis were wrong about the fact
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  you went to Iraq, he went to the land shark.
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  Yeah, just things like that. You know, sparked a lot of
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  debate that even we had doctor said, I'm Mark.
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  Yeah, she even mentioned on YouTube clips almost a Nick and
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  I viewed and I hate comments you went and then that triggers me
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  to go check out what other comments people are.
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  Yeah, we'll just surprised a lot of comments.
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  A lot of hate towards him. And to be really honest when you
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  think about it, the fact that Someone can can't as in a public
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  figure can't visit the the imams of the alpha-beta lame of Saddam
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  and just pay respects, you know, we're not talking or even if
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  they don't do it performers. ER, he made the video, he did
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  okay off to visit him there, Jeff if I'm going to paraphrase
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  and it was like he clarified that I'm a Sunni, Muslim weisel
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  respect. And I, because at the end of
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  dates, right? Okay.
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  So he emphasized that people take that because I haven't seen
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  that. I didn't see the comments.
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  Interesting. Interesting.
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  But there was so many hate. Hateful, comments and two bills.
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  We got to remember at the end of the day that I lost 12 either
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  has ordered us to hold firm to the Rope of Allah.
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  Mmm, you know, and we talked last week about how did that guy
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  Lane and the importance of holding onto the Quran and the
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  other debates on the hammer Salam.
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  So super important for us to remember this and not to get
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  swayed by all the hatred online and there's so much misguidance
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  and so much rubbish online. There's so many people who say
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  you sure. Oh, Is always, always, for
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  example, committed shirk. You guys / yourselves and be
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  yourselves. You guys, you know, you worship
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  these. You know, speaking of this point
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  today we came across a video. Yeah.
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  Well, someone stitched special clip of ours.
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  Well, yeah, this guy, what did he say?
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  He goes you, I've never had a shell.
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  Say, ya Muhammad, ya know. So you asked me a question when
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  you were like, you know where what is it?
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  Also allows position when it comes to mind here.
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  And then we clarified, right? We said We believe that Muhammad
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  comes first, of course, yeah. And then there is no proper
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  often bottom is idea. He was like, okay, we can agree
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  but why why don't you say o Muhammad?
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  Yeah. Let me just, let me just say
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  this right now. Ya Muhammad, ya, Muhammad
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  libecki. Mhmm.
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  At the end of the day at the end of the day.
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  Yeah, Bahamut. And after that, Ya Allah, Ya
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  Allah. Ya Allah madad.
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  Ya Leah trick Knee will say to the day we die and there's a
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  reason. Why is because we believe
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  rasulullah, Muhammad sallallahu alehiwassallaam is the final,
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  The Chosen messenger of Allah subhanallah.
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  His rahmat Allah jalla Min and Amir al-mumineen.
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  He is his successor. He's his brother is everything
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  that Muhammad was and everything that he personified and taught
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  was found and shown in the minimum.
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  How do you know if someone comments hmm, they can't
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  separate. Can't, you can't have one
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  without the other but let me make that abundantly clear to
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  all the haters out there. Yum, I'm mad.
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  And you can never say we don't ever say that because that's
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  something we believe in is fundamental in our core.
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  We say it, beginning of our column, I'll show how de la
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  langue handles full of lies. It's part of who we are so
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  identity. So don't ever bring that to me
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  and tell us we don't believe that we have some nonsense so
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  I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
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  I know we're kind of getting a bit waylaid and so want to put
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  it out there because at the end of the day, we what we do on
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  this podcast is we try and clarify misconceptions.
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  We try and speak to people about what we believe in.
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  Whether you follow the school of the Alan Bates and a Muslim or
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  not. It's okay.
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  We, you know, we're here for everyone and you know we we try
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  to connect with with a diverse audience and you know, I think
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  that's why this armor can't Russia is very important because
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  you've got people on different ends of the ideological Spectrum
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  who will react in believe different things.
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  It's just disappointing to be honest because we see people who
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  are so mad about the fact that this guy went to kind of Allah.
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  And he went to najaf when these are historical spiritual sites
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  in Islam, you're visiting the family of the holy prophet
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  Muhammad. Why is it a big deal?
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  You know what I mean, it doesn't make any sense.
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  Mmm, that requires a lot for long just coming back to the
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  discussion. Yeah, you know.
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  Fact was talking about mirror console.
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  My ask, you know why we even discussing it.
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  Yeah. Prizing.
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  Lee the few people actually mentioned, please discuss this
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  on the podcast. I think I shared that with you
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  as well, a few days ago and someone today message me as
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  well, not just recently saying don't talk about this on the
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  podcast, if you are going to speak about it so even within
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  our own Community there is this debate.
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  Should we talk about him in the main question is, for example,
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  why are we speaking by Aamir Khan?
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  Yeah. Is he a Muslim celebrity?
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  What's going on? I went to be honest weather or
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  weather delays a Muslim celebrity shouldn't matter.
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  Mmm. Okay.
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  If anyone visits the shrine of a minimal minion, and about the
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  lug Hussein, they are firstly in for mostly humbling themselves.
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  You know, there's an element of humility when you when you
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  perform a visitation of zero. And of course, they are entering
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  the house of Allah sponsor either.
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  You know, mosque is a house of God, we say this.
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  Now, when you go to the biggest and the most revered mosques
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  around the world, who are entering the biggest and most
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  revered mosques of Allah subhanahu wa'ta'ala.
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  So, that's the first and foremost thing, you can never
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  judge someone for entering a mosque.
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  Skits very important, but beyond that as well, you know, someone
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  of ascent influence for them to go as a good thing you know of
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  course I'm a kindness, had his controversies, we know that.
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  Okay but at the same time he's also giving back to the
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  communities guys on Foundation. He's done a lot for the Muslim
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  Community in the UK specifically and of course around the world.
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  Yes, like I said, he's got control Miss, he's got his
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  histories gots personalities and so on.
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  But the end of the day it's we whether you know, we shouldn't
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  take our Deen from and a Muslim celebrity Influencer.
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  You shouldn't we talked about this in the past on the Shelf
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  celebrity, I think episode 2 of our session.
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  Was she a celebrity sessions because Liberties and, and, you
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  know, they're like the concept of what is a celebrity.
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  We should take non-steam, take your Deed from them, but if
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  someone is, is going to, you know, someone of influence is
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  going to these places, you know, it should be considered because,
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  you know, they, they have a large following.
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  Many people may not know where they're going.
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  And Shalom encourages people to go themselves, Sean lunch and I
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  think that's what's the important thing.
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  Here. Yeah, and the fact Aamir Khan
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  package is still speak about him for a little, the fact that he
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  went to the shrine of Imam Ali and the shrine environment are
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  saying on is Sanam, it's going to encourage others.
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  May be to open their hearts a little.
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  Yeah yeah I'm sure yeah. If I read correctly that was
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  this fuzzy. ARA ever go into a room, visit
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  the holy shrines and inshallah has heartfelt.
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  He's and is mindful piece you know being in such a peaceful
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  Sanctuary that encourages others to go.
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  And I think that's what's nice about it as a Shia from my
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  perspective. Put religion aside for us.
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  But being a, she identifying as a shh, it's a, it's a nice
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  moment for. It's a moment of Pride.
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  Yeah, yeah. That's, you know what?
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  That's really nice because we have this thing as Muslims in
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  general forget, even just here, but we love when people say
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  publicly hamdulillah or in sha Allah or subhanallah, something
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  like that. There's like a moment of Pride,
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  when a footballer for example, we said a few episodes as ago as
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  well that there's even people who are not Muslim.
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  And still say it, the thing these was and its really nice.
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  Like, for example, I like Holland, we talked about the
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  football that many of us know, he said in sha, Allah will win
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  the game or something like that. It was like, yo, only Hans a
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  Muslim, he's not a Muslim, but the fact that is part of a
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  culture is nice. You know, I'm surrounded room
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  covid-19 how cook once we had the mosque, know, the whole
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  secretary. Okay, let's try this anomaly.
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  Yeah, you got a lot of those. I saw one when when Russia soon
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  ack was obviously a Hindu became.
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  The Prime Minister. There was a conservative MP,
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  came on, be misused, he's like, I'll handle all we've now have
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  a, he said he said, yes, crazy. Well, he said in sha Allah,
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  something like that on BBC News lives absolute insane but maybe
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  as I don't know, if it's a good thing or a bad thing, but as a
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  community, is it bad? For example, to look up to a
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  Muslim celebrity or Nikon Do you look up to I don't like that.
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  I that's an interesting question because I don't think I do the
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  cop to anyone. Now of like Iran has only think
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  in terms of If I look up to them and look after them for their
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  profession. So right in the Rings because of
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  the boxing, the on the field because of football.
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  Nothing else beyond that. Even if they're Muslim or
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  non-muslim wherever they are, I don't see anything beyond that.
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  If I don't know how to thing is. You know what's interesting with
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  the sport, you've always had like icons like Muhammad Ali for
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  example. He was like, I've never been
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  influence in terms of, for example.
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  People actually getting fluids by haircuts.
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  Yeah. They dress their lifestyle,
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  where they go with any things like that.
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  Yeah. I've never had that connection.
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  Yeah, I know. There are icons for Will you
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  look up to who happen to be Muslim?
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  Hmm, you know what I mean? Like, for example, me as a
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  Liverpool fan shout Liverpool, I love Mohamed.
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  Salah is my favorite one of my favorite players and, you know,
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  he is a Muslim. I mean, I would like, I would
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  love him regardless, you know, he's a great player and whatever
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  the fact that he's a Muslim adds an element of Pride but also
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  responsibility on him in my eyes.
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  Yeah. So I see him has okay.
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  He's a Muslim, he's the most probably top three most famous
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  Muslim Sports people in the world having a Who Who else is
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  as famous? The Mohamed Salah like Muslim
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  celebrities in terms of sport not many, many more far or
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  someone, you know. But like generally speaking, not
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  really many. So there's like a responsibility
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  on them, of course, you know, no one's Flawless and we're not
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  taking our Dean. Like we said from a celebrity
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  but it's important to, you know, to for us to question it at
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  times, you know me? Yeah.
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  Yeah. You know, all makes sense, a
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  comment, but I think, you know, I can give an example, for
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  example, of DJ Khaled. Yeah.
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  Someone Is recognized as a Muslim.
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  Yeah, I have no doubt seen videos where he mentions the
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  name of Allah subhanahu wa'ta'ala and some some of the
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  things he did he does by the same time.
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  He doesn't have the best of morals as a.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I need, there is the
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  partying scenes. There is a scenes of, for
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  example, being surrounded with alcohol, some of this content
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  and things like that. Doesn't that affect?
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  If we if we looking up to these personalities?
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  Yes. Maybe anyone else out there if
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  they are looking up to these He's even people watching
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  listening to this podcast. Maybe they all look into these.
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  Yeah, for example. Yeah.
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  How does that become a good thing?
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  Yeah, without a doubt. Because also like I said there's
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  an element of responsibility whether you like it or not, if
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  you are a Muslim and you are an influencer, even if you're a
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  Muslim, you're not an influencer.
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  The minute, we accept Islam into our lives.
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  We are khilafah. Allah says to us.
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  And I look hot on that. We are stewards.
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  We are Representatives or like brand ambassador.
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  The brand ambassador exactly. You carry the name Ali, I carry
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  the name. Ahmed, like London, we are
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  handle our blood, but we are representing our faith, whether
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  we like it or not, we're representing the name of minimum
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  Indian and also Allah Mohammed Salah Salem like that.
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  You know what I mean? So, you see, for example guy, DJ
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  Khaled as an example like you said the guy who those who don't
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  know him. He's a music producer and DJ so
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  he works. All the biggest music artists in
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  the world and he's been big for like 15 years or something and
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  like a guy like that. Who Is publicly identifies as a
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  public. Exactly are like he publicly
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  identifies but he's doing like stupid stuff.
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  It's not right, it's not right? So this concept about judging
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  people, and about caring about whether someone's a Muslim, or
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  whether they're suddenly or she are whatever also kind of fits
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  within our own Community. But a smaller level, do you know
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  what, the More microcosmic Level?
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  So in for example, the sense of which communities the sky from
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  which merger, does he follow, which centered is he?
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  That's the most dangerous one. Yeah.
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  Marja. Why we've seen marriages not
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  happen because of which merger they follow, and the sometimes
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  you can go out to ask her hand for someone.
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  Now, we have so much in so I know many examples.
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  For example, they following us a say, solidarity, okay, they go
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  Ox hand in marriage, one of the first two, three questions, they
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  also lose your merger. For example, right.
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  Then you've got this situation or for example, vice versa, keep
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  a different model yet, they have a L'm asking the problem is
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  leaving my Mirage, want to clarify.
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  That problem is literally, why would the followers?
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  And I think we make into such a big deal that were judging
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  someone based on the marja based on what Center they go to even
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  mention while Center they go to as the last one.
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  Yeah, I need you. Go for example to Masjid X or
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  you go to Imam, bargah y-yeah. You can't take my daughter.
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  You can have my son. Yeah, ridiculous.
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  Yeah. And even in even in things, not
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  as as big that's given us. Is this guy praying?
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  Yeah. Let's drink.
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  I'm leaving? Yeah, that's true.
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  They don't care about a clock and then they go straight to
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  the, where does he go? Who does he follow question, and
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  that they pigeonhole them. They, you know, they label them
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  with a certain thing but even with things that are not like
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  marriage, sometimes smaller things, for example, if you
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  think about working with someone in the community like
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  volunteering work and so on, I will not volunteer at the center
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  because they follow different culture.
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  I won't go to that Center because I got to the other one
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  across the road and we had it I'll fight with him a few years
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  ago, something like that. These kind of things are really
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  common. Unfortunately this year, our
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  world and the Western world and it's just all happening because
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  I thought it's over. I mean, we'd hope so, but we
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  live in London, which is the most, in my opinion, the most
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  advanced, she our community in the Western Hemisphere and you
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  still hear it here and there. But in other areas of the
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  western world and I'm sure you know, you guys listening at
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  home. Hopefully you can correct us or
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  maybe clarify but as far as I understand it specially smaller
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  communities. You have a lot more politics.
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  Times where you've got less centers, but more politics, do
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  you know what I mean? So, you have, for example, one
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  Center for this one Center for that, once into this one, says
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  about you've got four centers for four different major, for
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  example, Malaysia. And because of that and you're
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  in a small community, when it comes to things like marriage,
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  you only marry from within the center, as an example, at least,
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  in London, for example, it's a very sparse and diverse
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  community and you know, there's tens of thousands of people
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  living here. So it's not a great situation.
• 18:09
  Ian, to be honest and you know, it's sad.
• 18:12
  Well, that's really sad. It's really, really sad.
• 18:15
  At the end of the day, we are follows the elevator level Salam
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  our identity, is our belief in, in the school of the alpha-beta,
• 18:23
  limbs and everything that comes with it, regardless of who you
• 18:27
  follow. Of course, there are very
• 18:28
  important things. Like I do think it should be
• 18:31
  considered, I'm not going to lie to you.
• 18:33
  I do think that understanding the question of Maharaja is an
• 18:37
  important one. When you're looking to get
• 18:38
  married, Because it will help you understand.
• 18:41
  Compatibility, in terms of religious practice, okay?
• 18:46
  My children will follow which one or my dad will pray like
• 18:50
  this. My mom will pray like this.
• 18:51
  My dad would break his fast, like that.
• 18:53
  My mom will break. I was like that.
• 18:55
  Do you know what I mean? I like things like that are very
• 18:57
  important. Things to consider down the
• 18:58
  road. I have friends, for example, who
• 19:00
  follow, like you said to Malaysia one each, who are very
• 19:03
  different ideologically. Mmm, you know, and after getting
• 19:07
  married, it starts to hit them. Okay, do you know what I mean?
• 19:11
  They start to realize what I want to eat this restaurant and
• 19:13
  this, you know, my spouse can buy can't, this is the seafood.
• 19:17
  See how God knew it so happens, right?
• 19:22
  It's, of course, it should in an Ideal World.
• 19:24
  I don't think we should be judgmental, but I element of
• 19:27
  judgmentalism is needed because there's, you have to have a
• 19:29
  filter, like you have to, you have to be able to decipher
• 19:33
  compatibility and all of that kind of stuff.
• 19:35
  Do you know? I mean, you know, just before
• 19:37
  you brought this topic up, You measure something very important
• 19:41
  like judging the one judging? Yeah, I'm sure.
• 19:45
  Can I can I, for example, I'm asking myself here, can I can I
• 19:48
  take all the cop to or see someone?
• 19:51
  Let's say from, as a Sunni Muslim.
• 19:53
  Can I look up to him for example?
• 19:55
  Because there is one guy and I'll do want to mention his
• 19:58
  name, some may agree. Some may disagree.
• 20:01
  What do you think? There's always one thing about
• 20:03
  this guy, he reminds you of a lot of pain over time.
• 20:06
  I don't take everything from him but there are certain parts once
• 20:09
  he's there. He's got ya.
• 20:10
  Where I know for example they are in line with our laughs
• 20:13
  Peter, they are in line. I don't take everything as I
• 20:15
  said. Well, there are certain things
• 20:17
  that they take you back to a La Semana Pasada.
• 20:19
  Yeah, there's no harm in learning the goods from others.
• 20:22
  That's how I see it. And he should we, you know,
• 20:26
  going back to personalities. He's one big Sunni, Muslim
• 20:29
  personality as a shh. I'm happy comfortable sharing
• 20:34
  this but I've heard some of his lectures.
• 20:37
  Because I shocked, you not really, to be honest, why?
• 20:43
  Because I think first is some people, some personalities are
• 20:45
  so big, it's very hard to ignore.
• 20:46
  Mmm, do you know what I mean? You talked about large scale or
• 20:50
  well-known Sunni. Muslim influences.
• 20:52
  Hmm, Mufti make no money. Can't the soccer Nike also
• 20:55
  party. Like there's some very big ones,
• 20:57
  some of them are not really to in line with how we believe or
• 21:03
  say for example believe things that are completely
• 21:05
  contradictory To What We Believe.
• 21:07
  Someone more moderate in terms of likeness basically to the
• 21:12
  show world. So, no, it doesn't surprise me.
• 21:14
  And I don't think it's, I think it's, I think it's naive of a
• 21:17
  share to only learn from let alone only Muslim that alone.
• 21:23
  Only she let alone is on manager, like, but for example,
• 21:26
  to stick with a certain line of thinking, within his own
• 21:30
  Community is naive, you know, I lost one Tyler tells us that
• 21:34
  seek knowledge and we know from the idea that I did Prophet
• 21:36
  Muhammad's, Allah saw them and that you should seek knowledge.
• 21:39
  Even if you have to go as far as China and the important thing is
• 21:42
  it's not it's not a literal Hadith.
• 21:44
  The concept behind it is that you are meant to learn from all
• 21:48
  of the different bounties of knowledge, Allah has created and
• 21:53
  and spread across the Earth. The different forms of wisdom
• 21:56
  that you can find in the various communities.
• 21:58
  You know, when we're what Allah says I made you into tribes, we
• 22:00
  can get to know one another learn and all of that, the
• 22:03
  reason why is because Allah is telling us that there's much to
• 22:06
  learn across the Old and not just within the school of Islam.
• 22:10
  But even if you're learning knowledge, outside of Islam, in
• 22:12
  secular knowledge, you're going to pick up things which will
• 22:15
  help you and support you and yours.
• 22:16
  Lamech Journey. Do you get me and especially
• 22:19
  with, for example, learning from Sonny's II will listen, for
• 22:23
  example, to us a few Sunny speakers and I hope you know,
• 22:28
  our Sunni brothers sisters could say the same about some of us
• 22:30
  just because because there's knowledge everywhere and it's
• 22:33
  important to to to welcome Alternative opinions, and to
• 22:39
  embrace each other when someone from another school of thought
• 22:42
  comes to approach you, like in the case of armor, Khan and
• 22:45
  visiting the holy sites because that's how you build Bridges.
• 22:49
  You know, we talked in the beginning, the podcast about
• 22:51
  tolerance and it's important for us as it was a Muslim Community
• 22:55
  in the UK, especially when we live now in a day and age, where
• 22:57
  there's so much sectarianism, it's important to find
• 23:00
  commonalities, you know, love for the elevator live.
• 23:03
  As long as universally agreed. Yeah.
• 23:04
  If you are a Sunni Muslim and you say, I love Hassan and
• 23:08
  Hussein. I love Ali, radiya llahu, I'm
• 23:10
  for example, quote, but you've got a problem that I'm a kind of
• 23:14
  going to see the holy shrines. You contradict yourself things.
• 23:18
  I don't need to tell you that. You've got a, you got a problem
• 23:20
  with your own belief, you've got an innate insecurity with what
• 23:23
  you believe. If you say you love the other
• 23:24
  bait, but you think it should look to go visit their their
• 23:27
  shrines and to go to praying their mosques?
• 23:29
  There's a big problem there, you know, I think that's something
• 23:32
  that needs to be addressed. I'm just going to interject that
• 23:34
  and just say I'm at, I think it's very important that we
• 23:36
  clarify. I'd with the viewers and
• 23:38
  listeners. Yeah.
• 23:39
  Of what we're seeing here. Everyone's I give the example of
• 23:41
  me listening to move to make. Yeah.
• 23:43
  Now listen to Matthew make having been listening to them
• 23:45
  all my life. Yeah, only came across him
• 23:47
  because recently the algorithm algorithm saw suggesting short
• 23:51
  clips, right? You men talking about last one
• 23:53
  which island so I found it very interesting and for me to listen
• 23:56
  to some of these clips, I personally genuinely wanted to
• 24:00
  see what similarities we have in our Dean and then hamdulillah.
• 24:05
  We have no differences. Lost Planet honor.
• 24:08
  There is a few with there are things that we can question, but
• 24:11
  it's very important that we fact checked every course that we
• 24:14
  listen, that's not in line with our right.
• 24:17
  Yeah, that's something very important even if and to be
• 24:19
  really honest, even if you hear speakers within your school of
• 24:23
  thought, fact check it. Yeah, go and it goes Forever on
• 24:27
  the and of course I think you have to be more more conscious
• 24:31
  when you're listening to speak, how can you fact, check the fact
• 24:33
  Checker. So really good is a really good
• 24:35
  one, I think That's One Believes.
• 24:38
  Also not almost. Of course, everyone believes it.
• 24:40
  But the more we read, the more we learn.
• 24:42
  The more we listened in Islam, the move generally will
• 24:46
  understand. You know, like, like I always
• 24:48
  say, Allah has given us two ears and one mouth for a reason is
• 24:51
  because there's we should be listening more than we speak.
• 24:54
  You know, as ironic that we say that on a podcast.
• 24:56
  Yeah. But the idea being is that, you
• 24:59
  know, you hear something that you find confusing or maybe just
• 25:02
  is not really what you've learned growing up.
• 25:04
  Research it don't be shy. Do you know what I mean?
• 25:06
  Like, for example. Pull those.
• 25:08
  The whole conversation is YouTube that one thing which I
• 25:10
  think one day we're going to get into internal on and discuss
• 25:12
  half controlling our control proper have control, but for
• 25:15
  example, you'll hear like a lot of misconceptions about she has
• 25:17
  on this on these on the YouTube. That one scene where people say,
• 25:20
  for example you cannot prove it Mom and put on as an example.
• 25:24
  You know, and you might listen to it and think, wow, this guy's
• 25:26
  a great speaker, but he makes a good point.
• 25:28
  I wonder if it's true research. It fact.
• 25:30
  Check it go. And look for the answer, you
• 25:32
  might find an answer in a speaker, you've learned you've
• 25:36
  listened to or You might not, you might actually find an
• 25:38
  answer to speak, you've not listened to so it's really
• 25:40
  important because at the end of the day there's there's so much
• 25:43
  information and content out there.
• 25:44
  And I think the biggest problem with YouTube like you said is
• 25:47
  it's it's unfiltered and its unrestricted so you are
• 25:51
  suggested content based on the fact you're Muslim you get me.
• 25:54
  That's how I came across. What exactly the algorithm.
• 25:56
  Exactly like YouTube will not be able to understand what Mojo
• 25:59
  follow. Do you know what I mean?
• 26:01
  You might find related videos and suggested videos but at the
• 26:04
  end of the day it's urine and open playground.
• 26:06
  You can And whatever content you want.
• 26:08
  However, whenever you want it. So you just got to be smart.
• 26:12
  And we all have at the end of the day, as Muslims, it's, we
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  have an A Minor that's why they need to subscribe.
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  we mentioned, briefly in a previous podcast that we were
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  saying, thank you guys because you've been amazing and we just
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  want to like reiterate. We've had so many messages.
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  Ages of the last few weeks, it's overwhelming.
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  It's humbling as well. There's so many people who live
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  there. Some there is a delay in
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  responding to. Yeah, and we want to apologize,
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  of course for that. But there's so many nice
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  messages and people who are really saying some lovely stuff,
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  some kind stuff and also some really good suggestions.
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  today, we slightly touched on it with DJ.
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  Khaled I'm not it's not a huge thing mental.
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  Hell will dedicate your on Le charlot one shot?
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  There's there's a lot. I have got off.
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  You've got like, Probably like a good 20 topics in the pipeline
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  just that we want to get out every week.
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  You know. So it's tough but we're getting
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  there. There's an underlying or
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  thousand subscribers. Yeah.
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  There's some of maybe sounds and sound so little this is a huge
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  milestone for us, you know. Yeah yeah sure - lamech podcast
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  yes, yeah, absolutely. Our next goal is 5K and then 10
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  50 100 and that's not the quantity 1 million.
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  watching the podcast, come on the podcast, talk to somebody.
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  Were how you felt, you know, how your connection with the Imam
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  Ali was when he saw his Shrine for the first time.
• 29:00
  These things and Shawn would love to hear?
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  Yeah. Absolutely.
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  What you learn, what? You felt who you met anything.
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  You didn't Is that you learn anything you learned.
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  They didn't realize. Yeah, be cool.
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  And we invite them in Charlotte to the part of the show, public
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  And the truth is with a tidy inshallah, you find the truth,
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  wherever it may be. I live on me.
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