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Restore Wellness with George Brunemann and Keith Tenhundfeld · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Seven. I was six here but you about KRCD talk station.
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Speaker 1: I was so pleased to find out that George Venaman
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Speaker 1: and Keith Tennifield we're going to be in the studio
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Speaker 1: this hour, because well it's Friday and early in the
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Speaker 1: program the phones weren't even working, so I was going
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Speaker 1: to be left to my own devices for a full hour.
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Speaker 1: But no, we get to learn about wellness. We get
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Speaker 1: to try to improve our health and learn about some
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Speaker 1: new cutting edge research that we are going to talk
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Speaker 1: about today. George and Keith you can find him online
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Speaker 1: at Restore Wellness dot org. Of course, if you remember,
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Speaker 1: Keith is a nurse practitioner specializing in areas of health
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Speaker 1: and the diet and improving your body. He's over with
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Speaker 1: an organization called Root cause they're Inmherison. Keith, it's always
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Speaker 1: a pleasure to having you. Then, of course, George Brenneman,
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Speaker 1: the other man behind Restore Wellness dot org. They got
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Speaker 1: great information materials, links and resources, so check it out.
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Speaker 1: It's all about you helping yourself and help them help you,
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Speaker 1: and that's what we're here to do today. Guys. It's
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Speaker 1: great to see you both. Thanks Brian great I was
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Speaker 1: just waxing puetok over my wonderful outcome at my physical yesterday,
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Speaker 1: And you guys were part of my inspiration to change
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Speaker 1: my diet started that last year because I had that
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Speaker 1: CT scan showing my lomph nodes and increase and that's
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Speaker 1: of course cancer related, and I found out about the
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Speaker 1: link between cancer and sugar started researching that, so I
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Speaker 1: did the full on keto up until Thanksgiving. I think
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Speaker 1: it's kind of funny because Thanksgivings fast approaching, So I
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Speaker 1: broke the full keto by enjoying some of Mom's of
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Speaker 1: turkey and dressing and stuffing and a little carbs. I
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Speaker 1: didn't go overwhelmed, but I used that moment in time
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Speaker 1: to sort of stop the full keto and then just
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Speaker 1: focus on keeping the sugar out of my diet and
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Speaker 1: limiting my carbs significantly, which is what I've been doing
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Speaker 1: ever since. My blood work was so awesome everything that
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Speaker 1: we talked about it. It was also great my blood
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Speaker 1: pressure was down. I couldn't believe that It's just been
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Speaker 1: a tremendous thing, and there was the objective information in
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Speaker 1: front of me. Now, is there a correlation between my
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Speaker 1: diet and the great numbers I had yesterday in contrast
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Speaker 1: to all the other numbers from the prior years that
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Speaker 1: I was staring at. I don't know, but it's the
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Speaker 1: one thing in my life that I have changed, so
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Speaker 1: I'm pointing to that. But I also feel better. You guys,
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Speaker 1: we were talking about that. I have a better just
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Speaker 1: a general outlook on life. I don't feel is mentally taxed.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm thinking more clearly. I think
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Speaker 1: I actually think less clearly. But I just feel like
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Speaker 1: a better person, a happier person. And again I can only.
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Speaker 2: It's an amazing how much changes just by changing your diet.
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Speaker 1: Right because I haven't exercised yet now I say yet,
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Speaker 1: I'm someday. I keep promising you guys, but thank you
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Speaker 1: for the inspiration. I kind of go through this long
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Speaker 1: wooded thing to try to get people to say, you
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Speaker 1: know what, it may be worth listening to George and
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Speaker 1: Keith about these things, because we do have some really
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Speaker 1: really cool stuff to talk about by way of sugar
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Speaker 1: and cancer, with the with the the the interview you
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Speaker 1: did with doctor Thomas Seyfried. Amazing, this is is this guy.
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Speaker 3: I'm a seafree as a professor out at Boston, Massachusetts.
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Speaker 3: He's doing it for a very very long time, I believe,
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Speaker 3: I want to say nineteen sixty nine is real.
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Speaker 2: Well, his book on cancer came out in twenty twelve,
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Speaker 2: so he's had this answer for at least a decade
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Speaker 2: now regarding this, and his research is getting to the
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Speaker 2: point now where you know, we did an interview with
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Speaker 2: him on Monday, and the end result of talking to
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Speaker 2: him was cancer is not a death sentence. There is
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Speaker 2: a way to treat it. And he's been at the
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Speaker 2: forefront of this for over a decade now, Okay, And
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Speaker 2: how this kind of came down to Pike is, you know,
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Speaker 2: we've been.
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Speaker 3: Doing a lot of off label self care natural approaches
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Speaker 3: to help facilitate cancer treatment at our place. And so
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Speaker 3: because of ivermectin that I use and everything else, I
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Speaker 3: was known as the Avermectin guy, and people started reaching
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Speaker 3: out saying, hey, cancer, this cancer, that can you help
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Speaker 3: mecount help my family. And I got in contact with
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Speaker 3: this gentleman named Jimbo Collins over on the West Side
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Speaker 3: and his father had cancer, and so we started talking
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Speaker 3: to me and sending me videos of this guy or
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Speaker 3: this this treatment, this option and doctor Thomas Seyffred came
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Speaker 3: across and anyway, so we kind of started digging into
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Speaker 3: a little bit more of his stuff, and before I
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Speaker 3: knew it, I just sent him an email. I said, hey,
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Speaker 3: doctor Thomas Eefred, would you like to come and be
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Speaker 3: on our podcast? And he said yes, And from there
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Speaker 3: it's just really lit up. You know how we want
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Speaker 3: to be able to present this data to your listeners,
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Speaker 3: which is pretty profound.
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Speaker 1: Okay now, and I hate to keep bringing up the
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Speaker 1: only thing I know is my own personal experience of
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Speaker 1: what a run on line. But part of the idea
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Speaker 1: was of taking sugar out of my dat is to
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe it might help with my lymphoma. Now, I'd
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Speaker 1: never seen a study that connected anything but hard cancers,
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Speaker 1: solid cancers to the reduction in sugar and having an
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Speaker 1: impact on it. Clearly there is that relationship and that's documented.
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Speaker 1: No nothing out on lymphoma. But I thought, what the hell,
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Speaker 1: maybe they'll do a white paper brought me sometime so
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Speaker 1: after the scan that showed that the nodes had increased,
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Speaker 1: suggesting I might have to go back on treatment, which
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Speaker 1: I never did. The most recent scan from a few
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Speaker 1: months ago showed they actually had gotten smaller. There you go,
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Speaker 1: whether there's a corollary, but it's the only thing I
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Speaker 1: changed in my life.
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Speaker 2: Just to give you a little perspective, This research was
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Speaker 2: actually begun in nineteen twenty.
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Speaker 1: The sugar cancer research.
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Speaker 2: The sugar cancer research was done by a German scientist,
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Speaker 2: Otto Warburg in nineteen twenties. He's a Jewish scientist doctor
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Speaker 2: in Nazi Germany. He was kept alive because Hitler was
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Speaker 2: afraid of cancer and he knew this guy knew how
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Speaker 2: to cure it. And his cure was basically starved the
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Speaker 2: body of sugar. And those papers made their way over
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Speaker 2: to the United States after the war. The Rockefellers and
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Speaker 2: the new pharma industry that was growing at that time
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Speaker 2: suppressed the data and it was only by accident that
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Speaker 2: this Thomas Seafried found it. He was given a I
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Speaker 2: think the story is he was given a drug that
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Speaker 2: supposedly shrunk brain cancer. He was studying glioblastoma blastoma.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm Sarty Caesars and he learned that cancer. Well,
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Speaker 3: you're right, there was an opportunity for the He got
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Speaker 3: two grands. Basically he was working on with seizures and
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Speaker 3: and keto low sugar, right, and these these seizuars would
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Speaker 3: go away. At the same time, he was working on
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Speaker 3: cancer and found his correlations since he used to had
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Speaker 3: both of these kinds of things going on at the
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Speaker 3: same time. And then when he saw wait a minute,
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Speaker 3: these rats I think it was that were being also
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Speaker 3: targeted for diet was lowering their their.
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Speaker 1: The brain cancer.
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Speaker 2: So he was he was treating brain cancer and childhood
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Speaker 2: epilepsy at the same time. And childhood epilepsy he was
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Speaker 2: treating with a keto diet ketogenesis, and he found out
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Speaker 2: that the rats lost their brain cancer for you did
6:40
Speaker 2: the same thing. And then he uncovered the research for
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Speaker 2: Moudel water and he's been going on and on ever since.
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Speaker 2: But you know, like he's connecting the dots and connecting
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Speaker 2: the dots proving it. This guy, you could tell it's
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Speaker 2: a very technical. If you listen to the interview, it's
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Speaker 2: extremely technical. So we actually did a second podcast that
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Speaker 2: we're gonna have out over the weekend or next week
7:01
Speaker 2: that we we sort of go aside.
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Speaker 1: And put it in language in eighth grader connendals, Well, what.
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Speaker 2: I liked is this guy thinks the way I like
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Speaker 2: to think. What are the equations that govern the chemical
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Speaker 2: the chemical processes of cancer, and what's the what's the
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Speaker 2: role of genetics. Well, it turns out gene ICs has
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Speaker 2: no rolling cancer and they've had some experiments that prove
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Speaker 2: this that if you take the nucleus of a cancer
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Speaker 2: cell put it in a healthy cell, cancer doesn't happen.
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Speaker 2: So it's not genetic. It's it's definitely mitochondrial, just like
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Speaker 2: everything else we talk about. It's it's the energy production
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Speaker 2: in your cells that when that's destroyed by hypergross corn
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Speaker 2: syrup and carbs and you know, all of these other
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Speaker 2: things that are unnatural, suddenly your body susceptible to cancer.
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Speaker 1: So unnatural in the sense that, at least from a
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Speaker 1: historical perspective, during our genetic development over the millennia, we
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Speaker 1: never had these high concentrations of sugars or mitochondria aren't
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Speaker 1: equipped to deal with them. And somehow these mass infusion
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Speaker 1: that we've started with over the past let's say a
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Speaker 1: hundred years or something, has transformed the way it produces
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Speaker 1: energy well, or the way.
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Speaker 3: I understand that the number one paleo, right, So there
8:13
Speaker 3: were a bunch of cavemen running around.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of think of the back of my mind. Right.
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Speaker 3: So they're running, they're hunting, they're gathering, they're doing all
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Speaker 3: this physical activity number one, And there wasn't like abundant
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Speaker 3: food sources, so they weren't eating a lot and it
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Speaker 3: was all basically a protein and or fiber kind of diet,
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Speaker 3: paleo diet. Secondary when a cancer or any cell starts
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Speaker 3: to disregulate the ability for it to survive under normal,
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Speaker 3: oxygenation decreases and therefore the cell starts to get energy differently,
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Speaker 3: and that's that's probably been going on for a very
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Speaker 3: very long time. But since sugar is fed by cancer, well,
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Speaker 3: cancer feeds off of sugar, and we add that to
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Speaker 3: our diet. Now cancer starts to be more abundant.
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Speaker 2: And so that makes the case of like in the
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Speaker 2: United States, the number one killer of domestic dogs is cancer.
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Speaker 2: Wolves in the wild never get cancer. It's because we
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Speaker 2: started feeding the dogs, as he puts it, the same
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Speaker 2: crap we feed ourselves. Oh wow, if you feed a
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Speaker 2: dog just nothing but meat, it's not going to get cancer.
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Speaker 2: If you feed a human nothing but meat, it's not
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Speaker 2: going to get cancer. And some of the tribes in
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Speaker 2: Africa and the Aborigines in Australia. When they study them,
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Speaker 2: they don't even have a word for cancer because it
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Speaker 2: doesn't happen. They have to hunt their food. They go
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Speaker 2: long periods of time without eating, so intermittent fasting.
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Speaker 1: There was a fasting element in there.
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Speaker 2: Yet, all these things that prehistoric man understood but we've forgotten.
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Speaker 1: Oh, let's pause, We'll bring Keith and George back. Have
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Speaker 1: more discussions on our collective health. Here first word for
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Speaker 1: seven twenty year if you've got kars de talk station
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Speaker 1: Restore Wellness Dot Org, George Benaman and Keith tennefell behind that.
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Speaker 1: Keith nurse practitioner. George's just a brilliant guy who's interested
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Speaker 1: in health and wellness. But do you've been through this
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Speaker 1: whole experience yourself? Man?
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Speaker 2: So I'm actually in the middle of a fast after
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Speaker 2: all of our talking about fasting and whatever. So I
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Speaker 2: met two and a half days into it. Oh wow,
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Speaker 2: it's an interesting process.
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Speaker 1: Okay, now that's good. I'm glad you started out with that,
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Speaker 1: because there's a the tail line. You mentioned a fasting
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Speaker 1: component to this, So talking about cancer underlying the health
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Speaker 1: and the health benefits of getting sugar out of your
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Speaker 1: diet and the research that was done by this physician
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Speaker 1: that they had some interaction with what was his name,
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Speaker 1: Thomas Seafreed. So more on that in a moment here.
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Speaker 1: But the fasting component, when we're talking about because that
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Speaker 1: sounds I remember my initial reaction when you start saying, well,
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Speaker 1: you really need a fast. It was like, God, there's
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Speaker 1: no freaking way I'm going to be able to fast.
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Speaker 1: But what do we talk about in terms of length
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Speaker 1: of time of a fast? I mean, can we do
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Speaker 1: short term fasting? What benefit do you get? Go ahead,
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Speaker 1: and let's talk about the details of this concept of fastest.
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Speaker 2: So we did talk to him in detail, doctor Sefreed,
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Speaker 2: And he's not an MD, he's a PhD.
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Speaker 1: He has to make that clear research.
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Speaker 2: The same way I have to say.
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Speaker 1: I'm not an MD.
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Speaker 2: But the interesting thing is we started with the sixteen
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Speaker 2: eight is what you normally think of as intermittent fasting.
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Speaker 2: So you don't eat for sixteen hours and you eat
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Speaker 2: during an eight hour period every single day. And I've
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Speaker 2: been doing that forever. That's actually kind of easy. You
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Speaker 2: just sort of cut out breakfast and you're done.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty much my routine. I don't eat anything after dinner, say,
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Speaker 1: let's say nothing after six pm. And most days even
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Speaker 1: though I have my banana most days of slaves here
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Speaker 1: and I don't eat anything until about nine thirty ten o'clock.
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Speaker 2: That's perfect.
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Speaker 1: See what makes me routine?
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Speaker 2: And Keith, you can go into what sixteen eight does firstus.
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Speaker 3: Well, basically, you're just igniting your your liver to start
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Speaker 3: doing its job, putting you in a glconeogenesis, which allows
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Speaker 3: you to convert you know, your stored food or your
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Speaker 3: protein into energy instead of having it to depend on
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Speaker 3: sugar all the time.
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Speaker 1: If you via carbohydrates, so that helps improve your your
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Speaker 1: your liver function scores when you get a blood test. So,
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Speaker 1: in spite of your best efforts to harm your liver
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Speaker 1: with your other activities, by doing this fasting thing regularly
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Speaker 1: and routinely, you can keep the liver in good health. Right,
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Speaker 1: because there's the answer, doctor Pritchard. Anyway, go ahead.
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Speaker 3: And at the same time, you're burning a lot of
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Speaker 3: the fact that sometimes accumulates in the liver making limits.
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Speaker 1: She would, wouldn't you.
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Speaker 3: Exactly, And so that kind of continuous situation. We eat
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Speaker 3: too much in America anyway, right, yes, always, this three
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Speaker 3: mil a day thing is a scam. That's that's a
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Speaker 3: food industry gimmick, and we don't need to be doing that.
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Speaker 3: I am a big component of making sure that you
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Speaker 3: round up protein nicely throughout the day. So, I mean,
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Speaker 3: there is some research that we really haven't talked much about,
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Speaker 3: but people can do a bulk of protein in the
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Speaker 3: morning and a bulk of protein in their in their
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Speaker 3: later meals. A bulk being roughly half your body weight
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Speaker 3: as far as kilograms go, So you should be anywhere
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Speaker 3: from like point six to one gram of protein per kilogram.
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Speaker 1: Gram per kilogram, okay, if you're.
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Speaker 3: Weigh two hundred punds, you're looking at about one hundred
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Speaker 3: grams at a one milligram per kilogram or one gram,
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Speaker 3: so roughly anywhere from fifty to one hundred grams of
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Speaker 3: protein for a two hundred pound patient or person. If
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Speaker 3: you're especially if you're working out, then you can bring that.
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Speaker 1: Protein up as well. But is twice a day, yeah, exactly,
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Speaker 1: and two meals a day? How am I doing? Now?
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Speaker 1: If you're working out?
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Speaker 3: Some people eat a lot more frequently throughout the day
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Speaker 3: because of their glucose index and their needs for that.
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Speaker 3: But when you start lengthening that fast, then you start
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Speaker 3: doing some really cool stuff where you start in the beginning,
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Speaker 3: you start breaking down cells that your body doesn't need.
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Speaker 3: It goes around chewing up things, and it will know
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Speaker 3: I don't need that cell that cells dysfunctional aka cancer cells, right,
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Speaker 3: and so you start to actually chew up old cells,
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Speaker 3: bad cells, dead cells as energy sources. Okay, and then
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Speaker 3: you start getting into stem cell production, where your body
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Speaker 3: is now in a semi kind of like, hey, we
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Speaker 3: need to start really regenerating our cellulars like a desperation mode.
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Speaker 1: My god, we're not getting any food coming in here, right,
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Speaker 1: and that's why you produce.
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Speaker 2: You are a huge fan of the longer fast.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the next question was going to have. So
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Speaker 1: what I'm doing intimate and fast and fine, but you said,
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Speaker 1: then you move into the longer fast. How long are
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Speaker 1: we talking about here? Well, I mean I.
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Speaker 3: Would love to see people in a four day fast
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Speaker 3: for how long? I mean for how how frequently?
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Speaker 1: How frequently?
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Speaker 3: Yeap, I don't people do it different? I would say
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Speaker 3: at least probably once a month. If you really want
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Speaker 3: to knock out cancer, if you.
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Speaker 2: Want to knock out cancer. But for health, I've seen
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Speaker 2: most of them say like once a quarter or something.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and you want to clean out the enginet way. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So we've been doing this for like a year. I've
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Speaker 2: gone as long as two days before. This is the
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Speaker 2: first time I've tried longer than two And what's interesting
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Speaker 2: is you get these hits so like around ten o'clock
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Speaker 2: the first day. You know, I haven't eaten since six pm,
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Speaker 2: ten o'clock, which is when I normally started to eat. Right,
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Speaker 2: I'm hungry. Well, if you can rough it out for
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Speaker 2: two hours, that goes away.
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Speaker 1: Help drink a glass of water.
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Speaker 2: Drink of water, and then you know, some salt with
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Speaker 2: your water, just so you got to like cltic sea salt.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sea salt.
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Speaker 2: And then what was interesting with me this time was
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Speaker 2: when I got to you know, thirty six forty hours,
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Speaker 2: I started to feel like I was starving.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I told my wife, I said, I'm going to quit tonight,
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Speaker 2: you know, meeting today. Yes, I woke up this morning,
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Speaker 2: I've got hungry.
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Speaker 1: I feel fine.
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Speaker 2: Shoot, I could go another day, but now I'm looking
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Speaker 2: forward to you know sooner tonight.
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Speaker 1: Well, in your experience, George and I suppose this is
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Speaker 1: well documented. Just ride out those hunger pangs because there
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Speaker 1: is a light at the end of the tunnel in
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Speaker 1: a few hours down the road. It's interesting.
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Speaker 2: And I only did this because I've been getting yelled
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Speaker 2: at here for a year.
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Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, he's like to you what my wife is
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Speaker 1: to me.
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Speaker 2: So I thought, Okay, I'll give it a shot. And
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Speaker 2: like last night, going to bed, I had the migraines
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Speaker 2: I get because I get migraines, but that all went
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Speaker 2: away this morning. It's like, Okay, you gotta just trust
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Speaker 2: the process. So now I'm a believer. So next time
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Speaker 2: I do this, I do Thanksgiving, I'll go longer.
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Speaker 3: Do kind of a Surgeon General's warning, and that makes
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Speaker 3: sure that you stay hydrated, very very important because of
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Speaker 3: the process of going into the keytosis. You really need
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Speaker 3: water to help clear out all the key tones and
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Speaker 3: your kidneys and everything else, and it can cause a problem. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and don't be far from a bathroom while you're doing that,
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Speaker 3: so make sure you're drinking plenty of water.
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Speaker 1: Plenty of water. More with George and Keith Restore Wellness
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Speaker 1: Tenfield in sidio. Go to Restore Wellness dot org. You
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Speaker 1: guys have that podcast with doctor with Professor Thomas Seafried
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Speaker 1: on your Restore Wellness dot org website. So if people
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Speaker 1: are wildly curious about what he had to say, even
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Speaker 1: though it is technical, you're going to release a follow
16:27
Speaker 1: up public podcast to break this down a little bit
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Speaker 1: more so. We talked about the direct correlation the research
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Speaker 1: that's been going on for decades and decades between sugar
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Speaker 1: and cancer. Talked about keto being profoundly influential on well
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Speaker 1: reducing cancer living, the size, the spread, killing it basically
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Speaker 1: by depriving it of the nutrients it's looking for or
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Speaker 1: the sugar it's looking for. You talked about fasting and
16:54
Speaker 1: the importance of fasting to get this process going. I
16:58
Speaker 1: know the E word is going to come in. Let's
17:00
Speaker 1: get it out of the way. Exercise go ahead. Well,
17:04
Speaker 1: exercise is the cheat of the system.
17:06
Speaker 2: So one way to get rid of sugar is never
17:08
Speaker 2: put it in the other way to get that sugar.
17:10
Speaker 1: Is to exercise. Well, see, if you don't want to exercise,
17:13
Speaker 1: can just take take the bull by the horns and
17:15
Speaker 1: eliminate the sugar.
17:16
Speaker 3: Right, that's a great way. Look, starve yourself to death
17:18
Speaker 3: and you'd be great. I mean anyway, So let's talk
17:21
Speaker 3: about what muscle is. Muscle is a fantastic organ. It
17:24
Speaker 3: does more things for your body than probably anything else.
17:27
Speaker 3: And you can grow muscle, you can make more of
17:29
Speaker 3: an excellent thing. And when you let your body go
17:32
Speaker 3: to waste and then you don't move muscles and it starts,
17:34
Speaker 3: especially after your the age of forty, muscle starts to disappear. Right,
17:38
Speaker 3: Sarcopenia is what they call it. And so if you
17:40
Speaker 3: can imagine, if we need muscle in order to absorb sugar,
17:44
Speaker 3: and we go work out and build more muscle, we're
17:46
Speaker 3: gonna absorb more sugar when we're going to keep that
17:48
Speaker 3: glucose index lower, therefore lowering your risk of cancer, diabetes,
17:52
Speaker 3: heart disease, the whole gamut, because high sugar causes so
17:56
Speaker 3: much disease.
17:56
Speaker 1: Okay, So can you say absorb sugar that keep that's
18:00
Speaker 1: taking it out of your body because it's using it
18:03
Speaker 1: to actually convert to energy as opposed to fueling the
18:06
Speaker 1: growth of cancer.
18:06
Speaker 3: The more muscle you have, the more resting metabolic rate
18:10
Speaker 3: you have. So you're burning muscle or sorry, burning fat,
18:13
Speaker 3: doing absolutely nothing. If you have more muscle, I see,
18:16
Speaker 3: it's an engine, like just this metabolic engine, if you will.
18:20
Speaker 3: And the more muscle you have, the more your metabolic
18:22
Speaker 3: process happens.
18:23
Speaker 1: Pretty cool, it really is.
18:25
Speaker 2: So the exercise is like if you wanted to supercharge
18:30
Speaker 2: what you're doing with your diet. So if you if
18:32
Speaker 2: you just do the diet alone, yes, things are going
18:34
Speaker 2: to get better. If you can keep your body in keytosis,
18:36
Speaker 2: things are going to get better, and not just cancer.
18:39
Speaker 2: I mean, like let's just say it's everything. Type two
18:42
Speaker 2: diabetes will go away, Dementia risk goes way down if
18:46
Speaker 2: you're in keto.
18:47
Speaker 1: So there is a correlation between this and dementia risk
18:49
Speaker 1: as well. Oh. Absolutely.
18:51
Speaker 2: In fact, the only drug that works for dementia right
18:54
Speaker 2: now is keto. They keep trying all these drugs that
18:58
Speaker 2: make it better, this.
18:59
Speaker 1: Whole plaque build path and apparently that is that apparently
19:03
Speaker 1: didn't work out.
19:04
Speaker 2: Two things you can do for dementia or go into
19:06
Speaker 2: katosis and stop taking statins. You need that cholesterol to
19:11
Speaker 2: build your brain back up.
19:12
Speaker 3: Now I'm talking like a doctor, So now back now,
19:14
Speaker 3: you're doing a fantastic job, and I appreciate it. And
19:16
Speaker 3: I think the other aspect to this is that exercise
19:21
Speaker 3: needs to be looked at as just as important as sleeping,
19:24
Speaker 3: just as important as eating and drinking water and breathing.
19:27
Speaker 3: I mean, it is essential to our life. We talked
19:29
Speaker 3: about the Paleo like everybody was moving back then, and
19:31
Speaker 3: we weren't to kill your We were signing because we
19:34
Speaker 3: broke a bone and it got massively infected. We didn't
19:37
Speaker 3: have antibiotics back then, but we died healthy. Here we
19:41
Speaker 3: are just getting eaten away because of sedentary lifestyle. So
19:45
Speaker 3: if we were too, honestly, as a country, if we
19:47
Speaker 3: were to exercise at least five days a week, you know,
19:50
Speaker 3: make it a part of your routine because I need
19:52
Speaker 3: to because I have a sit down job, or whatever
19:53
Speaker 3: it might be, you would be so healthy. Everybody would
19:57
Speaker 3: be so healthy, we would be disease would start to
19:59
Speaker 3: go away. It actually starts to move the mark on
20:02
Speaker 3: cancer risk and heart disease. But instead nobody's getting cured
20:05
Speaker 3: of those things right. And my friend Jimbo Collins, he
20:09
Speaker 3: is a jim on the West Side. He is the
20:10
Speaker 3: healthiest guy I know, and he's he's ripped right. He
20:13
Speaker 3: works out all the time, and I admire that. And
20:16
Speaker 3: because I became friends with him, I have also understood
20:18
Speaker 3: and seen the benefits of exercise.
20:22
Speaker 1: I know. See, I'm not in a position to deny
20:25
Speaker 1: any of this. I'm just I can repeat chapter and
20:28
Speaker 1: verse for like the next hour all the reasons that
20:32
Speaker 1: people should exercise. And I had my own physician yesterday
20:35
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. He said, you know, Brian, you
20:37
Speaker 1: might when I said, I can tell you what you're
20:38
Speaker 1: going to say, like, you know, just talk to my wife.
20:41
Speaker 1: And how many times has she had these exact same
20:43
Speaker 1: conversations with their or anybody like Keith and George. She
20:47
Speaker 1: works well in a sense. Every single day she takes
20:51
Speaker 1: Liam out to the park and does at least a
20:54
Speaker 1: couple of miles either walking or for fast running chasing
20:57
Speaker 1: the dog around. Yeah, and Liam gets probably quadruple that
21:01
Speaker 1: running around chasing the laser being but yeah, every single
21:04
Speaker 1: day my wife is and that's what I She'll say
21:06
Speaker 1: to that she goes I got in the parking walk,
21:07
Speaker 1: you can at least get up and walk the dog.
21:09
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know. Seven thirty six more
21:11
Speaker 1: with Keith and George after I mentioned cross Country Mortgage
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Speaker 1: Great Top Station seven forty here fifty five K City
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Speaker 1: Talk station. Time to Restore Health, Restore Health Dot Org,
21:22
Speaker 1: Keith enfl At, George Proudman in studio. We're talking to restore.
21:25
Speaker 1: It's restore wellness rather restore cancer the underlying theme for this.
21:29
Speaker 1: But overall it's all about diets. So even if you
21:31
Speaker 1: don't have cancer, everything George and Keith that you're talking
21:35
Speaker 1: about is strongly encourage really for everyone.
21:40
Speaker 2: Because it's they're all the same symptom. I mean, the
21:43
Speaker 2: book Good Energy from Casey means who hopefully will be
21:46
Speaker 2: surge in general soon. But her book is totally focused
21:49
Speaker 2: on what happens when the energy in your cells is
21:52
Speaker 2: not being fed properly and not working properly. It leads
21:55
Speaker 2: to all of those diseases type two diabetes, dementia, cancer,
21:58
Speaker 2: all of them. You're right, this is this is kind
22:02
Speaker 2: of like the foundation for not getting sick in the
22:05
Speaker 2: first place.
22:06
Speaker 1: Understood, Get ahead of it and you don't have to
22:09
Speaker 1: deal with the aftermath. That's fine, so Keith earlier in
22:13
Speaker 1: the show, unless there're so I know you're off air,
22:15
Speaker 1: you were saying, I don't want to sound preachy. I
22:17
Speaker 1: don't want to sound like I'm lecturing. I don't think
22:19
Speaker 1: it necessarily does. But I know where you're coming from.
22:22
Speaker 1: It is out of an abundance of care and concern
22:25
Speaker 1: for people generally speaking that this advice comes from. Sometimes
22:29
Speaker 1: takes a hammer to get people to follow the advice,
22:31
Speaker 1: but at least you're providing it, and I applaud you
22:32
Speaker 1: guys for doing that, whether or not someone follows it
22:35
Speaker 1: or not. And the only reason I bring up my
22:37
Speaker 1: own personal, you know reality on this because I've been
22:42
Speaker 1: with the before part and i've been with the afterpart,
22:44
Speaker 1: and I didn't pursue it as headlong as you guys
22:47
Speaker 1: are recommending. I haven't done multi day fast. I do
22:50
Speaker 1: these little periodic fast kind of things. But I'm living
22:53
Speaker 1: proof that if you do something along these lines, you're
22:56
Speaker 1: going to definitely notice it and it's going to improve
22:59
Speaker 1: your life to some to My life could be improved
23:01
Speaker 1: to a greater degree if I again started regularly exercising
23:04
Speaker 1: and doing some of the other things, but earlier in
23:06
Speaker 1: the program. So I hope I apologize for your lecturing
23:09
Speaker 1: concerns there real quick, they're Keith, thank you. You had
23:11
Speaker 1: mentioned this, and this came up during covid ivermectin and
23:15
Speaker 1: and anybody who's uttered the word ivermectin at one point, Ah,
23:18
Speaker 1: you're crazy. It's a horse pill. You know, this is insane.
23:21
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, evil orange man. Because Trump said ivermectin out
23:25
Speaker 1: loud a couple of times. I don't know. Pharmacies were
23:27
Speaker 1: prohibited from even filling prescriptions for it, which is to me,
23:30
Speaker 1: the intrusion into the doctor patient relationship like no other
23:33
Speaker 1: I've ever witnessed in my life. But what's the story
23:36
Speaker 1: with this stuff? What's I mean it does? It's it
23:39
Speaker 1: goes after parasites, So how in the hell does ad
23:41
Speaker 1: that was a design for treating animals and is a
23:44
Speaker 1: proof for human use you mentioned, Keith, what the hell's
23:47
Speaker 1: it got to do with this diet stuff?
23:49
Speaker 3: So regarding interesting Thomas Seafried said that he was going
23:51
Speaker 3: to study ivermectin in the research back in twenty twenty
23:54
Speaker 3: three for this particular situation, but it was too political,
23:57
Speaker 3: so they chose me. Mendmond as all, which is similar
24:00
Speaker 3: to fembindazol and ibmectin and albindazol, So they're all in
24:04
Speaker 3: the same drug category. Yes, okay, they're basically anti parasitics.
24:07
Speaker 3: And what what Thomas sefree came did to learn is
24:09
Speaker 3: that the same food source that parasites use is the
24:12
Speaker 3: same food source that cancer uses. So basically, when you
24:16
Speaker 3: have parasites, you're producing this cancer fuel and vice versa.
24:20
Speaker 3: And so that's why there's this potential link between when
24:23
Speaker 3: you have cancer you have parasites. But at the same time,
24:26
Speaker 3: anti parasitics has off also been shown to actually disrupt
24:29
Speaker 3: cell membrane and cancer as well. So glucose glutamine parasite food,
24:34
Speaker 3: glucose glutamine.
24:35
Speaker 2: Cancer food in the in the the ivermectans of the
24:40
Speaker 2: world block that reaction. So the same chemistry that parasites
24:45
Speaker 2: use for energy is the same chemistry cancer uses.
24:49
Speaker 1: And so there chemistry thing that you like to take.
24:52
Speaker 2: This This is why I liked it what the whole
24:53
Speaker 2: discussion is because it was extremely technical, but you understand
24:57
Speaker 2: that this guy's looking at it from the equation of
25:00
Speaker 2: chemistry and he's saying these anti parasitics are so parasite
25:06
Speaker 2: stuff works because it's the same process.
25:08
Speaker 1: Idiot Thomas no law or no, not licensed to practice medicine,
25:12
Speaker 1: not even close. It's sort of an off label use. Yes,
25:16
Speaker 1: ivermacinf and bendazel and the other ones were designed to
25:19
Speaker 1: deal with, you know, parasites and animals, but humans can
25:23
Speaker 1: benefit from these to get rid of their parasites that
25:26
Speaker 1: might live in their body. But parenthetically, in addition to
25:29
Speaker 1: doing that completely separate from its anti parasitic function, it
25:34
Speaker 1: also has the effect of impacting this this cellular relationship
25:37
Speaker 1: between the cancer cancer as well.
25:40
Speaker 3: And then we get back into drug research and the
25:42
Speaker 3: finances and the money behind that. You know, the whole
25:45
Speaker 3: industry and these medicines has been around for a very
25:48
Speaker 3: long time.
25:48
Speaker 1: So there's an incentive for the pharmaceutical company to diss
25:52
Speaker 1: and otherwise belittle anybody who might mention it along these
25:55
Speaker 1: lines because they have patented pharmaceuticals out there which nobody
25:58
Speaker 1: would buy if they realize that these drugs did the
26:01
Speaker 1: same thing and they're basically over the count do it back.
26:04
Speaker 3: And we also found an ivermectin was also anti viral
26:06
Speaker 3: as well, and that was where the whole Fauci thing
26:08
Speaker 3: came out, don't treat your COVID with horse medicine, you know,
26:11
Speaker 3: And so I find that I'm also frustrated with the
26:14
Speaker 3: medical industry and that doctors only are allowed so many
26:17
Speaker 3: minutes per visit for their patients. At the same time
26:19
Speaker 3: they have to push certain drugs or as they're getting dinged,
26:21
Speaker 3: or they're not meeting this benchmark or this checklist. And
26:24
Speaker 3: I really would love for this whole industry to really
26:27
Speaker 3: wake up. And I believe that physicians really want to
26:30
Speaker 3: do what's best for their patients, but their hands are
26:32
Speaker 3: being tied down by these financial obligations.
26:34
Speaker 1: Well, the financial obligations, but separate from that, you know,
26:37
Speaker 1: physicians are also influenced by social media, and if they
26:40
Speaker 1: were to even suggest out loud the word ivermectin, they're
26:43
Speaker 1: probably in a room with the patient who thinks, it's,
26:45
Speaker 1: oh my god, horse pill. Didn't you hear what Fauci
26:47
Speaker 1: said about the horse pills? And so they're going to
26:49
Speaker 1: be met with that, you know, that wall of belief
26:53
Speaker 1: that has been parroted since COVID nineteen was going right.
26:56
Speaker 1: I do give them propaganda, if you will, I do
26:58
Speaker 1: give them credit. There The feedback that I'm getting from
27:00
Speaker 1: patients is that the oncologists in the cancer areas are
27:03
Speaker 1: starting to say, yeah, I mean, we hear a lot
27:05
Speaker 1: of new things about ivermectin, and there seems to be
27:08
Speaker 1: this open conversation starting to happen. They don't tell you no,
27:11
Speaker 1: don't do it. Before they might have said no, no,
27:14
Speaker 1: you don't want to do that, but now they're saying,
27:16
Speaker 1: go ahead, I'm not going to stop you. Maybe it
27:19
Speaker 1: might work. Right.
27:20
Speaker 3: And the key point behind what we're trying to present
27:22
Speaker 3: today is that that Thomas Seffree's work showed that when
27:26
Speaker 3: you put people on a keto diet or a glucos
27:28
Speaker 3: restriction diet, and at the same time, if you can
27:31
Speaker 3: do gludamin blockers or in my case, supplements, you will
27:35
Speaker 3: increase the duration of their life expectancy and quality.
27:39
Speaker 2: I mean, if you think about chemo, you've been through chemo.
27:42
Speaker 1: You don't feel chemo retuxin it was not a chemo agent,
27:45
Speaker 1: thank god, But when you go through chemo.
27:46
Speaker 2: I've watched my father. I mean, the guy lost tons
27:50
Speaker 2: of weight and so horrible when he died.
27:52
Speaker 1: It's this horrible process.
27:54
Speaker 2: This approach you feel better and better every day because
27:58
Speaker 2: all of your other problems are going away a lot
28:00
Speaker 2: along with the cancers.
28:01
Speaker 1: And you're not killing a good chunk of your body
28:03
Speaker 1: that you really want to stay alive with the chemo.
28:05
Speaker 3: And Thomas Sifred also showed that radiation and chemotherapy increase
28:09
Speaker 3: the fuel sources for cancer aka glucose and gludamine.
28:12
Speaker 1: Oh wow, all right, one more bad things associated with
28:15
Speaker 1: chemo seven forty seven. One more segment with the folks
28:18
Speaker 1: from resore Wellness dot Org. After I mentioned Simney Care
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Speaker 1: Fireplace and so okay boiled down, have your chick the
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Speaker 1: talk station seven fifty one come up with some fifty
28:28
Speaker 1: two fifty five ker CD talk station George Benaman, Keith
28:32
Speaker 1: Tennefeld in studio and really enjoy these and I think
28:36
Speaker 1: I view them as inspirational, honestly, because again I give
28:38
Speaker 1: you guys a lot of credit for me moving over
28:41
Speaker 1: to a much much healthier diet, and I, honestly, one
28:44
Speaker 1: hundred percent would not lie to any of my listening audience.
28:46
Speaker 1: I do feel a hell of a lot better. And
28:48
Speaker 1: again going back to the numbers I got for my
28:50
Speaker 1: doc yesterday, for my physical they look great. I mean
28:54
Speaker 1: a significant improvement over the by comparison over the years.
28:57
Speaker 1: So thank you guys. And again, the SEATS scan that
29:00
Speaker 1: I most recently got showed that removing sugar from my
29:03
Speaker 1: diet at least might have had the impact of making
29:07
Speaker 1: the lymphodes get smaller. I can't give it one hundred
29:09
Speaker 1: percent of credit, but what you guys are telling me
29:11
Speaker 1: allows me to have greater confidence that the effort did
29:15
Speaker 1: have an impact on the cancer.
29:16
Speaker 2: And that's kind of the bottom line is. You know,
29:19
Speaker 2: when people are diagnosed with cancer, they feel the Angel
29:22
Speaker 2: of deaths on them. Now that there's no hope for this,
29:25
Speaker 2: we're not going to be able to do anything. The
29:27
Speaker 2: bottom line is, no, that's not true anymore. There is
29:30
Speaker 2: something you can do. Actually it doesn't cost any money.
29:34
Speaker 2: It's it's changing your diet, exercise.
29:37
Speaker 1: There's no more mountain dew line it. I mean, your gross.
29:41
Speaker 1: You're definitely not going to take everything that you wouldn't
29:43
Speaker 1: be buying if you are eliminating sugar, like I went
29:46
Speaker 1: so far as did not even eat barbecue sauce.
29:49
Speaker 2: Oh wow, because you know it's got oh yeah yeah.
29:52
Speaker 2: Or you can look for the ones adult which is
29:54
Speaker 2: what we use. Yeah, it don't taste much. But the
29:56
Speaker 2: key is it's up to you. It really is up
29:59
Speaker 2: to you. You if you are diagnosed with cancer or
30:02
Speaker 2: if you're just not feeling good, there you go. You
30:04
Speaker 2: can try these things. They don't cost anything. They take
30:07
Speaker 2: a ton of self discipline. I mean, one of the
30:10
Speaker 2: things that I liked that he talked about was the
30:12
Speaker 2: idea that he's going to create this app.
30:14
Speaker 1: Seafree is, oh, this doctor or the physician HD.
30:18
Speaker 2: So he's basically going to have a like a continuous
30:20
Speaker 2: glucose monitor. So you put this the sensor on your
30:23
Speaker 2: arm and the app tells you, hey, you can have
30:25
Speaker 2: that donut. But when you look at the app after
30:28
Speaker 2: you eat the donut, oh golly, my keytones went down,
30:30
Speaker 2: my glucose went up. It's now telling me my cancer
30:33
Speaker 2: is growing bright red. Oh are you gonna eat a
30:35
Speaker 2: second doughnut?
30:36
Speaker 1: Now?
30:36
Speaker 2: No.
30:37
Speaker 1: But I mean it's like your parents standing in the
30:39
Speaker 1: room watch It's like it well, right, only one well,
30:43
Speaker 1: and the first place, it's not a death sentence, and
30:47
Speaker 1: none of life shouldn't be a death sentence.
30:49
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we're all going to die at the
30:51
Speaker 2: end of it, But how do you want to live? It,
30:53
Speaker 2: How do you want to feel when you're eighty. I
30:55
Speaker 2: always come back to my standard line is I want
30:57
Speaker 2: to be able to get up off the floor after
30:58
Speaker 2: playing with the grand kids, right, I mean, that's that's
31:01
Speaker 2: the bottom line.
31:02
Speaker 3: But I thought, I think the reason that we don't
31:06
Speaker 3: do these healthy options is because we lack maybe self worth,
31:09
Speaker 3: self identity, whatever it might be. And so if we
31:12
Speaker 3: can flip that and start doing self care, and we
31:14
Speaker 3: start really dialing in and saying, I need to care
31:16
Speaker 3: for myself in all the ways of my life diet, exercise, sleep, rest, relationships,
31:21
Speaker 3: and really spend time dialing in and feeling that connection
31:24
Speaker 3: with the why you're doing it, the reasons why you're
31:27
Speaker 3: doing it.
31:27
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it may be boiled down to the
31:29
Speaker 1: stuff just tastes so blank and good. I mean, diving
31:33
Speaker 1: into a bag of nacho cheese door Itta is maybe
31:36
Speaker 1: the idea of I mean someone's idea of heaven, and
31:38
Speaker 1: I love it. Engineered to do that, I love right
31:41
Speaker 1: right right, And see that's kind of how I've been
31:43
Speaker 1: able to stay the hell away from It's like they
31:45
Speaker 1: were designed to make you feel really elated when you
31:47
Speaker 1: eat them. This is why I can't do you have
31:49
Speaker 1: to eat a whole bag of the damn things when
31:50
Speaker 1: you all make.
31:51
Speaker 2: You feel elated and you're still hungry after you ate
31:54
Speaker 2: the whole bag.
31:54
Speaker 3: And but see that if you know that that's stimulating
31:57
Speaker 3: dopamine to make you feel better, the question is why
31:59
Speaker 3: do you need to feel better that? I think if
32:02
Speaker 3: we get through the root of.
32:03
Speaker 1: That, Oh oh, why why do people eat when they're
32:07
Speaker 1: depressed or drink alcohol or do drugs or all these
32:10
Speaker 1: other addictions. Yeah, so if we get to the bottom
32:13
Speaker 1: of that, you personally identifying and I think it's I
32:16
Speaker 1: honestly believe if you really want to get groovy, is
32:19
Speaker 1: that there's something missing on the inside and trying to
32:22
Speaker 1: fill it up with something else that makes them feel better.
32:24
Speaker 1: But once they start to love themselves and they start
32:26
Speaker 1: to just really have this great relationship, they don't need
32:29
Speaker 1: to be filled up with anything but themselves, and then
32:31
Speaker 1: self care starts to perpetuate. George Keith, I appreciate what
32:35
Speaker 1: you guys are doing. It's restore Wellness dot org. There's
32:38
Speaker 1: tips information the podcast. They're going to be doing the
32:41
Speaker 1: follow up podcasts, so follow George and Keith. And again
32:44
Speaker 1: Keith's with Root Cause, which is the name of his
32:46
Speaker 1: business in Harrison, Restore Wellness dot Org. Keith and George,
32:50
Speaker 1: Thank God for what you guys are doing. I appreciate
32:52
Speaker 1: your influence on my life and diet, and I know
32:54
Speaker 1: you're doing that for a lot of other people. And
32:55
Speaker 1: that's why I'm so pleased to be able to bring
32:57
Speaker 1: you in the morning show from time to time to
32:59
Speaker 1: keep people on the right track or maybe get them
33:01
Speaker 1: to try out going on the right track. Thanks. Thanks
33:03
Speaker 1: for keep on having us out. Love it, man, absolutely
33:05
Speaker 1: love it. Learned something every week