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191. Gabi Butler, Cheerleader & 'Cheer' Star · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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Speaker 1: You're not always going to stay on the top and
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Speaker 1: you're not always going to be at the bottom. So
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Speaker 1: you have to be grateful when you're on the top,
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Speaker 1: and then you have to be hopeful for when you're
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Speaker 1: at the bottom.
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Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, Emily Abati here coming to you with episode
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Speaker 2: one ninety one from the AG Studio. You are listening
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Speaker 2: to Hurdle, a wellness focus podcast. Reconnect with everyone from
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Speaker 2: your favorite athletes to top experts and industry CEOs about
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Speaker 2: their highest highs, toughest moments, and everything in between. We
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Speaker 2: all go through hurdles in life, and my goal through
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Speaker 2: these discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours
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Speaker 2: and move with intention so that you can stride towards
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Speaker 2: your own big potential and of course have some fun
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Speaker 2: along the way. For episode, I am chatting with Gabby Butler.
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Speaker 2: She's a cheerleader and star of the Netflix series Cheer,
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Speaker 2: which debuted.
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Speaker 3: Its second season just a few days ago.
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Speaker 2: As someone who may be liked some of you totally
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Speaker 2: totally binged Cheer season one, I was after this opportunity
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Speaker 2: to get to know Gabby better. We talked about everything
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Speaker 2: from how she first got into sport and where she
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Speaker 2: gets her work ethic from to the most difficult parts
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Speaker 2: of the last two years, living through a pandemic, including
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Speaker 2: a major bombshell during production her co star Jerry Harris's
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Speaker 2: arrest on.
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Speaker 3: Child pornography charges.
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Speaker 2: She also tells me about her newfound closer relationship with God,
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Speaker 2: what that looks like these days, and how it's helped
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Speaker 2: her stay the course during some of these tough times,
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Speaker 2: plus the surprising truth about when she gets to watch
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Speaker 2: the series and how she feels about the way that
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Speaker 2: she and her family.
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Speaker 3: Were portrayed in season one. Loved this combo.
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Speaker 2: I'm now officially a bigger Gabby Butler and I am
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Speaker 3: Today.
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Speaker 2: I am sitting down with Gabby Butler. Gabby Butler, I'm
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Speaker 2: so excited to have you, how are you doing today?
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Speaker 4: I am doing great? How are you?
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Speaker 3: I'm so good?
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Speaker 2: I have to know how that this is about two,
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Speaker 2: This episode's coming out. I think it's like four or
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Speaker 2: five days after the season two premiere of Cheer. How
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Speaker 2: are you feeling in this moment right now? It's kind
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Speaker 2: of like the calm before the storm.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm definitely very excited to see season two.
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. I get to see it
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Speaker 1: when basically everyone else gets.
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Speaker 4: To see it.
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Speaker 1: But honestly, I'm excited for you guys to kind of
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Speaker 1: like get an idea of what we, like what happened
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Speaker 1: during the seasons of us, like during COVID and then
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Speaker 1: having to come back from it and all the obstacles
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Speaker 1: we had to get over, and then just in general,
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Speaker 1: like I'm excited for you guys to meet like the
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Speaker 1: new people that get brought into it, and also just
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Speaker 1: get an inside glimpse of like what we basically went
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Speaker 1: through for the past two years.
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Speaker 2: Talk about a lot of hurdles, right you having to
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Speaker 2: navigate COVID in the midst of like just trying to
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Speaker 2: perform well, talk about the mental toll with us that
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Speaker 2: COVID really took on all of you guys, especially your sport.
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Speaker 3: So many people typically in a small space.
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Speaker 1: COVID definitely through I think not just only cheerleaders, but
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Speaker 1: like everyone in the world was like freaking out, panicking,
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Speaker 1: like what's going on?
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Speaker 4: What's going on?
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Speaker 1: Like we I've never in my life like dealt with
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Speaker 1: something like this, And honestly, it was so scary because
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Speaker 1: of the uncertainty and like, just it's very eerie and weird,
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Speaker 1: Like it was just a very weird time. So I
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Speaker 1: was definitely, you know, I was devastated when they canceled
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season, just because we worked so hard
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Speaker 1: the whole entire year to basically get up to that
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Speaker 1: point at the very end, and we were about to compete,
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it was like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: well you know this is happening, and you guys are
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Speaker 1: no longer able to compete.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then cheerleading looking because of the pandemic so
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Speaker 2: much different than it had in years prior. So in
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Speaker 2: that environment, what did it start to look like for
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Speaker 2: you when you couldn't practice exactly like you used to?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was definitely.
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Speaker 1: It was just so weird because I'm like, well, I'm
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Speaker 1: used to going to cheer practice every day, I'm used
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Speaker 1: to a regiment, and I'm used to this certain schedule,
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Speaker 1: and then for it to just completely stop, I had to, like,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I had to change the way I did everything,
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Speaker 1: like and I wanted to make sure that during COVID
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Speaker 1: I was staying in good shape because I knew that
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Speaker 1: we wanted to continue doing another year after this whole
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Speaker 1: thing happened, and I was like, I need to make
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Speaker 1: sure that I'm ahead of the game and I'm doing
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Speaker 1: everything I need to do to make sure I'm in
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Speaker 1: the best shape physically, in shape and good to go.
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Speaker 1: Like I wanted to make sure I was mentally ready
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Speaker 1: to go too, and I really took a step back
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Speaker 1: and really tried to improve myself during quarantine. I would
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Speaker 1: say I did a lot of self improvement during quarantine
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Speaker 1: for sure.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, can we talk about what that looked like for you?
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Speaker 4: You can always grow as a person.
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Speaker 1: I don't think you can ever reach like, oh, I'm
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Speaker 1: at the perfect point in my life. Like I feel like,
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Speaker 1: no matter what, you can get better, Like every day
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Speaker 1: you can make something better. And I think everybody in general,
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Speaker 1: like we can do better, like in whole, Like as
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Speaker 1: a whole, you could be like the sweetest person, but
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Speaker 1: there's always one little thing you can improve on. So
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Speaker 1: I definitely tried to like just be like more, you know,
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Speaker 1: love self love, Like I think self love is so important,
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Speaker 1: And I think that like knowing who you are and
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Speaker 1: also like understanding what you want in life and just
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Speaker 1: being confident in who you are is like the most
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Speaker 1: important thing, and the way that you look at yourself
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Speaker 1: is so important, you know, like you have to love yourself.
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Speaker 4: And one thing that I actually haven't told.
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Speaker 1: Anyone, I grew a very very strong relationship with God
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Speaker 1: actually over that entire thing while that was happening, because
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Speaker 1: I felt so stressed out and I felt like something
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Speaker 1: was always missing. And I've always like believed in God,
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Speaker 1: and I've always had like you know, like not really
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Speaker 1: like a super close relationship, but I've always like just
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Speaker 1: you know, he's been a part of my life, but
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Speaker 1: not as the.
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Speaker 4: Way he was over Quarantine.
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Speaker 1: Like I felt like I my relationship with God was
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Speaker 1: very much like very very strong, and I felt like
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Speaker 1: a completely different person when I started to kind of
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Speaker 1: just like yeah, just like give my life like to
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Speaker 1: God and like trust in him and like really really
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Speaker 1: just let go of all the stress and anxiety. I
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Speaker 1: feel like He's been a very big part of my
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Speaker 1: life since Quarantine, since after twenty twenty, and I feel
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Speaker 1: like my life has really changed for the positive, and
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Speaker 1: I feel like a much stronger person.
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Speaker 2: I think it's also really beautiful in that you were
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Speaker 2: saying letting go a little bit. I think that many
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Speaker 2: people over the pandemic had to get to a place
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Speaker 2: where they were a lot better right with letting go
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Speaker 2: and being okay with the fact that there are going
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Speaker 2: to be things in life that we cannot control, and
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Speaker 2: you have the choice to be frustrated and angry about
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Speaker 2: those things, or you can just do the best you
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Speaker 2: can with what you have. And it seems as though
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Speaker 2: through your reliefationship with God and getting a little bit
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Speaker 2: more deep on that that maybe that was something you
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Speaker 2: came to learn over the last twenty or so months.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I think that that was the missing piece
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Speaker 1: for me. I think that it's so important to have
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Speaker 1: God in your life because I feel like a lot
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Speaker 1: of the stress and anxiety and depression that people get
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Speaker 1: is because it's you know, it is at that piece,
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Speaker 1: that piece that they're looking for. And it's like, for me,
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Speaker 1: my experience was just it was insane, Like I got
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Speaker 1: baptized actually in my pool, literally like on Easter Sunday,
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Speaker 1: and I it was like one of the most unforgettable
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Speaker 1: experiences that I've ever had. It was just it was
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Speaker 1: such a beautiful like moment and even though a lot
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Speaker 1: of people couldn't be there, Like it's something that I
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Speaker 1: will never forget because the feeling that I had it
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Speaker 1: was just so like amazing, Like I can't I get
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Speaker 1: chills thinking about it, because I felt like my whole
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Speaker 1: body was just like electrified with like this amazing like
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Speaker 1: energy and it was beautiful.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's really beautiful that you're finding these beautiful
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Speaker 2: moments in silver linings in a time that many again
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Speaker 2: struggle to find these joys when things are not as
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Speaker 2: they had hoped or expected. You mentioned not having a
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Speaker 2: lot of people that you had hoped could be there
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Speaker 2: not be there, but still like to be able to
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Speaker 2: find those small joys is so so important, and I
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Speaker 2: mean talking about flexing that muscle, about finding the silver linings.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned the hurdles that you had to conquer going
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Speaker 2: into twenty twenty and going into twenty twenty.
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Speaker 3: One with Navarro.
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Speaker 2: Another hurdle that you all conquered together was the national
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Speaker 2: coverage of what happened with Jerry. So talk to me
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Speaker 2: about how you have managed to get through that, not
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Speaker 2: just as an individual but together as a team.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that entire like I mean as a team,
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Speaker 1: that was definitely one of the hardest opsticles I think
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Speaker 1: we had to overcome and get over because you know,
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Speaker 1: we knew the Jerry that you all saw in season one,
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Speaker 1: like that was the Jerry that we saw every single day.
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Speaker 1: It was just this ray of light and it was
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Speaker 1: like someone who could pick you up when you felt down,
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Speaker 1: make you laugh when you were sad, or you know,
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Speaker 1: reach that lending hand when you were down and you
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Speaker 1: needed it. It was the most devastating thing that I
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Speaker 1: that had happened in that whole entire like series. It
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Speaker 1: was something that was very emotional for all of us.
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Speaker 1: And the allegations that are basically being made against him.
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Speaker 1: I don't condone in any way, shape or form, but
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Speaker 1: I also do you know, there is that side of
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Speaker 1: me that has those memories that I had with him,
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Speaker 1: and it was nothing but loving and genuine and like true,
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Speaker 1: like pure happiness. So it's like it was just very
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Speaker 1: hard for me to grasp my head or it was
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Speaker 1: hard for me to wrap my head around any of
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Speaker 1: it because I'm like, there's no way, there's no way,
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Speaker 1: and I you know, he's his case is still open
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Speaker 1: in court, so I'm really being like super aware of
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Speaker 1: that and also just like trying to like I'm just
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Speaker 1: staying really really hopeful. And also I'm just yeah, like
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Speaker 1: I cheerleading should absolutely be a safe spot for everyone
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Speaker 1: in the sport, and I definitely just want to hold
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Speaker 1: on to like the good memories and the good times
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Speaker 1: that I did have with him.
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Speaker 2: And I mean you talking about cheerleading being a safe
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Speaker 2: sport or should be a safe sport for all. When
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Speaker 2: you first got involved in cheer did you find it,
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Speaker 2: as I would say, like and thralling and as exciting
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Speaker 2: as you have come to love it right now? Talk
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Speaker 2: to me about getting into the sport at the get go.
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Speaker 1: So it's actually so fun because a lot of people
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Speaker 1: don't actually ask me like, hey, like how was it
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Speaker 1: when you first joined? And obviously like you got to
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Speaker 1: start somewhere. But when I first joined, I was like
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Speaker 1: the worst one on the team.
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Speaker 4: I sucked.
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Speaker 1: My mom would always lead like my mom was like
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Speaker 1: if you if I had to go down the line,
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Speaker 1: you were the worst one on the team. Like I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna say it straight up. And one thing that I
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Speaker 1: do have is drive.
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Speaker 4: I have drive, and.
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Speaker 1: I also work really really hard. So my work ethic
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Speaker 1: is like I will not stop until I am at
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Speaker 1: the top. And I think that's something that has carried
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Speaker 1: like throughout my entire life, Like no matter what I'm doing,
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Speaker 1: I always want to make sure I'm thriving in anything
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Speaker 1: that I do. I'm super competitive, a healthy competitive, but
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Speaker 1: I am very competitive and I like to I like
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Speaker 1: to be the best at what I do. So as
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Speaker 1: a little girl, I would go in the every single day.
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Speaker 1: I would go from when the gym opened basically until
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Speaker 1: the gym closed, and they would have to be kicking
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Speaker 1: me out of the gym. They would turn off the
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Speaker 1: lights and be like, Gabby, you need to go home,
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Speaker 1: like we need to go home, like come on. And
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Speaker 1: I just think I had such a love and a
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Speaker 1: passion for it, like since I was little, and it's yeah,
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Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna lie. There was there were times
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Speaker 1: that my passion for the sport would not die, but
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Speaker 1: it just like the flame went out, and there were
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Speaker 1: times that I had to pull myself back up and
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Speaker 1: pull myself out of it and be like you know what,
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Speaker 1: like don't forget why you started it. You started it
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Speaker 1: because you loved it, and you need to find that
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Speaker 1: joy again, like that happiness that it brought you when
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Speaker 1: you were a little girl.
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Speaker 3: Two things to double click on the first thing.
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Speaker 2: Do you think that you were born with this like
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Speaker 2: passion and drive, Like was it modeled for you from
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Speaker 2: a young age, like at home, or do you think
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Speaker 2: that that is something that became an inquired skill over time.
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Speaker 1: I think since I was a little girl, I have
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Speaker 1: always been a super energetic and athletic person since I
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Speaker 1: was little.
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Speaker 4: Like my dad he used to when I was a baby.
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Speaker 1: He would like put me on his hand and like
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Speaker 1: balance me and I you know, I was a very
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Speaker 1: energetic kid, and that's actually why my parents put me
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Speaker 1: in gymnastics at first, and then they switched me over
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Speaker 1: to cheerleading because I had so much energy, and so
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Speaker 1: I think I did it more for fun when I
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Speaker 1: was little, But then I started getting really really good
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Speaker 1: at it, and I started seeing the more competitive side
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Speaker 1: and the more like you gotta like be on your
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Speaker 1: a game when you're when you're hanging with the best,
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Speaker 1: like you gotta be on your on your feet, on
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Speaker 1: your toe. So it definitely did get more challenging as
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Speaker 1: I've grown up, but it molded me into the person
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Speaker 1: I am today. If I quit when I wanted to,
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Speaker 1: I would have never been in the position that I'm
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Speaker 1: in right now. So I think like all the challenges
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Speaker 1: is in all the competitiveness and all the things that
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Speaker 1: have been you know, basically thrown is something that has
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Speaker 1: made me a lot stronger.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting to hear you talk about your
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Speaker 2: beginnings as a cheerleader, knowing that you weren't the best.
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Speaker 3: A little bit of hesitation there.
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Speaker 2: You, as I have heard you talk about before, also
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Speaker 2: had some hesitation about getting involved.
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Speaker 3: With Navarro, So talk to us a little bit about that.
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Speaker 1: I was never like going to get involved with college cheerleading.
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm just strictly all star because
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Speaker 1: that's where I started. I started an All star. And
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Speaker 1: I was like, I will never do college cheerleading, like
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Speaker 1: absolutely not.
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Speaker 3: And why did you say that? Why not?
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Speaker 1: Number one was because they were on dead mat And
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Speaker 1: it was like, how that is terrible? Why on earth
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Speaker 1: would I want to put my body through like college cheerleading,
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Speaker 1: especially if.
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Speaker 4: It's on a dead mat.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I used to think more of like
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Speaker 1: when I thought of college cheerleading, I thought more of like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: like the cheer and the even me, like who was
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Speaker 1: in cheerleading? I thought college cheerleading was more about like,
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Speaker 1: you know, the cheers and the sidelines, and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to do that, like that's not what
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Speaker 1: I want to do. And then Kaylie Peppers, who is
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Speaker 1: actually was the assistant coach for Navarro last year, like
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Speaker 1: she was actually the one that got me to go
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Speaker 1: to Navarro and visit. She's like, I think you should
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Speaker 1: come to a Navarro practice and I was like, I
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Speaker 1: don't really know, like that's probably not something that I
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Speaker 1: want to do. She was like, no, I really think
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Speaker 1: you should. And I'm like, okay, like I'll just go
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Speaker 1: to one practice. And I actually didn't even do it
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Speaker 1: that season. I did it the next season. I went
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Speaker 1: to Navarro after so I went and this is actually
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Speaker 1: a funny story, so I actually went to TVCC also
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Speaker 1: because I wanted to see them too. And I think
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Speaker 1: both programs are great, Like I genuinely think both programs
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Speaker 1: are like super talented, but I think the way that
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Speaker 1: they do things is obviously a little bit different. But
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Speaker 1: one thing that really drove me to go to NOVA
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Speaker 1: was Monica specifically. She has definitely impacted my life, like
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Speaker 1: the in the best way that any person could, Like
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Speaker 1: she really really was there for me when I felt
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Speaker 1: like I didn't have anyone else.
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Speaker 2: Clearly, she has been a role model for you, someone
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Speaker 2: that you look up to. What would you say are
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Speaker 2: some of the values or qualities that you admire in Monica?
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Speaker 1: The way she holds herself, Like the way she carries herself,
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Speaker 1: Like she really does carry herself with such like grace
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Speaker 1: and being humble too, but she's also got that fiery
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Speaker 1: side that's like all right, like we are not coming
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Speaker 1: to play, like let's get this going.
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Speaker 4: You know, she could be she could be like so.
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Speaker 1: Sweet and graceful, but she also has a switch that
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Speaker 1: she could turn on that it's like a boss.
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Speaker 4: And I think that overall, like.
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Speaker 1: She just genuinely cares so much about all of her kids,
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Speaker 1: Like she really will fight for every single one of us.
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Speaker 1: And I think that that's something that isn't just when
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Speaker 1: you're her athlete, Like that's throughout life. If I called
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Speaker 1: Monica and said I need your help on this situation,
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Speaker 1: like she's there, Yeah, she's like a mother like to me. Honestly,
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Speaker 1: she still to this day keeps in contact with me
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Speaker 1: and like even if I don't respond, like she'll just
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Speaker 1: check on me to make sure I'm doing good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's so special to have those
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Speaker 2: role models and the people that you look up to
19:29
Speaker 2: at this point now, I mean, someone goes to your Instagram,
19:31
Speaker 2: you have almost two million followers. You're certainly someone that
19:34
Speaker 2: a lot of people look up to, including young women
19:37
Speaker 2: in the sport.
19:38
Speaker 3: How do you take responsibility for that?
19:41
Speaker 2: Because I'm sure that when people talk about you that
19:44
Speaker 2: you hope that if they're looking up to you, they're
19:46
Speaker 2: kind of talking about you with that same admiration that
19:49
Speaker 2: you talk about Monica with.
19:51
Speaker 1: I want people to also know, and this is something
19:54
Speaker 1: I've always said, like I want people to know that
19:56
Speaker 1: I am a normal Like I am so normal and
19:59
Speaker 1: I'm really because I think that a lot of people think,
20:02
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like you can't even come up to
20:05
Speaker 1: her or approach her, But I really am like one
20:08
Speaker 1: of the most chilled, down to earth people. And I
20:11
Speaker 1: want to impact people's lives in a very positive way
20:14
Speaker 1: because I feel like there's so much there's so much
20:17
Speaker 1: darkness in this world and there's so much negativity already.
20:21
Speaker 1: So if I could at least change one person's life,
20:24
Speaker 1: impact one person, that's I feel like that's accomplishing, Like
20:29
Speaker 1: a really big thing because I really genuinely just want
20:33
Speaker 1: people to be positive and loving and I want to
20:36
Speaker 1: bring out that positivity in the you know, not only
20:40
Speaker 1: in the cheer industry, but with everyone. So I think
20:43
Speaker 1: showing my true genuine side is something so important because
20:47
Speaker 1: I want people to know that I do mess up,
20:51
Speaker 1: I do have bad days, and I do go through
20:53
Speaker 1: things also, and I want them to be able to
20:55
Speaker 1: like relate definitely.
20:57
Speaker 2: And I would imagine after the kind of media frenzy
21:01
Speaker 2: and just the frenzy in general that happened with Season
21:04
Speaker 2: one of Cheer, that there was probably a little bit
21:06
Speaker 2: of an adjustment period as more and more people knew
21:10
Speaker 2: your name and like kind of had a little bit
21:12
Speaker 2: of access to you because of the way that social
21:14
Speaker 2: media works.
21:15
Speaker 3: Can you talk to us a little bit about what
21:17
Speaker 3: that was like for you.
21:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I've always had, you know, a little bit
21:22
Speaker 1: of a social media following, and I feel like that's
21:24
Speaker 1: something that I I'm very grateful for because I was
21:28
Speaker 1: in the limelight since such a young age and I'm
21:31
Speaker 1: really grateful that my because I feel like a big
21:34
Speaker 1: part of the reason that I am the way I
21:37
Speaker 1: am and the way I can handle these things so well,
21:40
Speaker 1: is because my parents have kind of helped me throughout
21:43
Speaker 1: my entire life with speaking in front of people and
21:47
Speaker 1: with going and doing these things, and definitely just prepping
21:51
Speaker 1: me and like making sure that I'm like the best
21:53
Speaker 1: example for younger people, and not only younger people, just overall.
21:57
Speaker 1: Everyone was kind of just thrown into it, and I've
22:00
Speaker 1: had a little bit of a head start to be like,
22:03
Speaker 1: I know what to do, I know how it goes.
22:04
Speaker 2: Having this really beautiful relationship with your parents. Then I
22:08
Speaker 2: have to ask you how it felt when they were
22:11
Speaker 2: getting some criticism after that first season of the show.
22:14
Speaker 1: I'm the first to say, like my family, we are
22:17
Speaker 1: not like a normal family. We are crazy, we're loud,
22:21
Speaker 1: We're very very blunt and straight to the point, and
22:25
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't really like that, I guess,
22:28
Speaker 1: or they're not used to it, but that's just the
22:30
Speaker 1: way that my family is and I wouldn't trade them
22:33
Speaker 1: for the world, honestly, but I definitely, you know, it
22:36
Speaker 1: was hard to see like all the criticism because I
22:38
Speaker 1: felt like a lot of people didn't see like the
22:42
Speaker 1: genuine moments that we had and like the laughs that
22:44
Speaker 1: we had, and you know, the loving moments, I feel
22:48
Speaker 1: like it was more like people were focusing on like, oh,
22:51
Speaker 1: the negative and like oh, her parents are you know
22:54
Speaker 1: this and that and it. Yeah, it was sad to
22:57
Speaker 1: see because I'm like, that's not the way that they all, like,
23:00
Speaker 1: that's not the way that we are as a family.
23:03
Speaker 1: Like yeah, are we crazy, absolutely, But the way that
23:07
Speaker 1: the show was, I think they portrayed everyone like very
23:09
Speaker 1: well and like correctly, and then like that situation, everyone
23:13
Speaker 1: was just kind of like oh, you know, like they
23:15
Speaker 1: all had their own opinions and that's fine at the
23:19
Speaker 1: end of the day, Like whoever knows us personally as
23:21
Speaker 1: a family, like they know, like we're a very tight
23:24
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Speaker 3: It sounds like you have like such a good head
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Speaker 2: Now about that whole idea, not just with your family,
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Speaker 2: but knowing that, like there are always going to be
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Speaker 2: people that have some sort of opinion about what they
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Speaker 2: see or maybe what they read, or like whatever it
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Speaker 2: this place where you're able to kind of like let
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27:44
Speaker 2: in yourself, like, there's always going to be like that
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27:48
Speaker 2: stings a little bit.
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Speaker 1: I always say this, people are always going to say
27:52
Speaker 1: and they're going to have their own opinion of you,
27:53
Speaker 1: and that's fine.
27:54
Speaker 4: Like I say it all the time. I'm like, you know,
27:58
Speaker 4: if people don't like.
27:59
Speaker 1: Me, then that's totally fine. Like I'm not trying to
28:04
Speaker 1: impress everyone, because at the end of the day, if
28:06
Speaker 1: I was, if I was trying to please everyone, I
28:10
Speaker 1: wouldn't be happy myself because I'm trying so hard to
28:13
Speaker 1: please everyone.
28:14
Speaker 4: And I think that just knowing who you are and being.
28:17
Speaker 1: Yourself is like the most valuable thing, especially nowadays, because
28:22
Speaker 1: I feel like people get caught up in what others
28:25
Speaker 1: think about them or what other people's opinions are, and
28:28
Speaker 1: it's like people are going to have their opinions of
28:31
Speaker 1: you and not everyone who's going to like you all
28:34
Speaker 1: the time, and that's fine. You be you because at
28:37
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you.
28:38
Speaker 4: Only have you.
28:39
Speaker 1: You are going to have those friends that are going
28:41
Speaker 1: to have your back, but at the end of the day,
28:43
Speaker 1: like you are always going to have you, and you
28:45
Speaker 1: need to be confident, know who you are and just
28:48
Speaker 1: know you're not always going to be able to please everyone.
28:50
Speaker 1: If you're true to who you are, then that's like
28:52
Speaker 1: really all that matters.
28:54
Speaker 2: It's so interesting as well, because you saying when we
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Speaker 2: started this, you are like, yeah, I haven't seen it yet.
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Speaker 2: To be back in this place where you haven't seen
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Speaker 2: it yet, do you have any residual anxiety about that?
29:06
Speaker 1: Yeah? I have, like because it's so it's crazy and
29:11
Speaker 1: I feel like you really have to open up and
29:13
Speaker 1: be vulnerable when you're putting your life out there. And
29:17
Speaker 1: I definitely try to like be as real as I
29:20
Speaker 1: can be regardless if there are cameras around or not.
29:24
Speaker 1: I've never like, that's one thing that I've really tried
29:27
Speaker 1: to do is I've never really thought like I'm going
29:30
Speaker 1: to act a certain way because you know, cameras are
29:34
Speaker 1: around or these people are around, Like, I've always just
29:37
Speaker 1: tried to be as genuine and as open as I
29:40
Speaker 1: possibly can and just show that I am a human
29:44
Speaker 1: being and I do have emotions, and I do have
29:46
Speaker 1: bad days, and I do have things that I have
29:48
Speaker 1: to overcome all the time, and I want people to
29:51
Speaker 1: know like it's okay to not be perfect. You are
29:54
Speaker 1: going to have all these different things, Like you're not
29:57
Speaker 1: always going to have like an upward path in life,
30:01
Speaker 1: Like it's gonna come at you and it's gonna there's
30:03
Speaker 1: gonna be things thrown at you all the time. But
30:06
Speaker 1: it's how you handle those things that's going to make
30:08
Speaker 1: you the person you are.
30:10
Speaker 2: I do want to rewind just a little bit to
30:12
Speaker 2: talk a little bit more about the earlier parts of
30:16
Speaker 2: your career in cheerleading, specifically the earlier days with Navarro.
30:21
Speaker 2: I mean before cheer was even a thing. When you
30:25
Speaker 2: think about those days and building these new relationships, do
30:29
Speaker 2: you find that as someone that's in a sport where
30:32
Speaker 2: there is so much trust involved that that takes some
30:35
Speaker 2: time or is that something that kind of comes with
30:38
Speaker 2: the territory when you put yourself up into these situations.
30:43
Speaker 1: I definitely think as a team like, this is just
30:46
Speaker 1: something that over the years I've noticed, the closer the
30:50
Speaker 1: team is and the better the bond is, the more
30:53
Speaker 1: success you're going to have.
30:55
Speaker 4: Like it's a known fact.
30:56
Speaker 1: And it's very rare for teams to win and do
31:01
Speaker 1: really well if they're divided. And I've been on teams
31:05
Speaker 1: where there's so much talent but we don't win because
31:09
Speaker 1: we weren't as close, or teams that I've been on
31:13
Speaker 1: that we didn't have as much talent and we just
31:15
Speaker 1: were so close and we knew each other's strengths and weaknesses,
31:19
Speaker 1: and I think, yeah, like those were the most successful
31:22
Speaker 1: years that I was on. So this is what I
31:25
Speaker 1: say all the time, Like you as a team, you
31:30
Speaker 1: need to be a team to be successful, because if
31:34
Speaker 1: you're not a team, it doesn't matter how much talent you.
31:37
Speaker 2: Have, especially if there's a disconnect, then there is a
31:42
Speaker 2: greater risk for injury. Talk to us a little bit
31:45
Speaker 2: about your past dealing with injury. Has it been something
31:49
Speaker 2: that you have had to navigate a lot or have
31:51
Speaker 2: you been more of one of the lucky one.
31:53
Speaker 1: No, I've definitely had my handful of injuries. I have
31:57
Speaker 1: had broken ankles, I've had dislocated elbows, and I've had
32:04
Speaker 1: I've had concussions, I've had sprains, I've had honestly a
32:09
Speaker 1: lot of things.
32:10
Speaker 4: I've never had like a knockum one.
32:12
Speaker 1: I've never had like a serious, like serious back injury.
32:16
Speaker 1: But my back, like I'll wake up some days in
32:19
Speaker 1: my back will literally just feel like it wants to break.
32:22
Speaker 1: So Yeah, there's definitely As an athlete, especially in like
32:26
Speaker 1: college cheerleading, I think it's very very common to get injuries,
32:31
Speaker 1: and especially when your skills are higher and you're doing
32:35
Speaker 1: more difficult things, I think it's super easy to get hurt,
32:40
Speaker 1: especially if you don't have that bond and that trust
32:44
Speaker 1: with your no like the people that are especially throwing you,
32:47
Speaker 1: I think it's very dangerous. You have to make sure
32:50
Speaker 1: that you trust the person that is under you, and
32:53
Speaker 1: vice versa. I think it's important to have like that
32:57
Speaker 1: trust in that bond to make sure or like Okay,
33:01
Speaker 1: I know who's I know that whoever's under me is
33:03
Speaker 1: going to catch me. I'm going to make sure that
33:06
Speaker 1: I trust them. Yeah, it's key. It's key for cheerleading.
33:10
Speaker 2: And regardless if someone's throwing you or not, people reach
33:12
Speaker 2: out to me all the time and ask about this.
33:14
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've gotten messages about how to cope with
33:17
Speaker 2: being on the injured list. It can be so so difficult,
33:20
Speaker 2: especially like when you can't do the thing that like
33:23
Speaker 2: you identify as like you couldn't cheerlead. I'm a big runner,
33:26
Speaker 2: Like if I get injured and I can't run, like
33:28
Speaker 2: it just it totally sucks the wind out of your sails.
33:32
Speaker 2: How have you navigated that frustration in the past, and
33:35
Speaker 2: maybe what advice do you have for someone who is
33:39
Speaker 2: kind of sidelined from what they love to do.
33:41
Speaker 1: It's a major setback, and it's something that you have
33:44
Speaker 1: to not only physically like prepare for, but it's something
33:48
Speaker 1: that is so mentally. It's a setback for sure. And
33:51
Speaker 1: I found myself in situations where when I'm hurt, I
33:54
Speaker 1: get so sad and I get down and depressed, and
33:57
Speaker 1: it's hard. I have to pull myself out of it
34:01
Speaker 1: and be like, you know what, there could be a
34:02
Speaker 1: lot worse things. You could be super unhealthy and sick,
34:07
Speaker 1: or the injury could have been way worse. And if
34:10
Speaker 1: there's people that are around, go surround yourself with people
34:14
Speaker 1: that are gonna uplift you. And love you and bring
34:17
Speaker 1: happiness out of you because injuries are Yeah, they suck, absolutely,
34:22
Speaker 1: But I think there's so much more to life than
34:25
Speaker 1: harping on like an injury, especially like with cheerleading, you know,
34:29
Speaker 1: like if something happens with cheer I really try not
34:32
Speaker 1: to harp on it so much because I'm like, cheerleading
34:34
Speaker 1: is cheerleading. It's a step in life. It's a stepping stool.
34:37
Speaker 1: It's not everything. I do think it definitely has. It's
34:42
Speaker 1: been something that's been a big part of my life,
34:44
Speaker 1: but it's not everything. So if I get a setback
34:48
Speaker 1: or I do get hurt or something happens that isn't
34:52
Speaker 1: really like in my plan, I'm not harping on it
34:56
Speaker 1: too much because I'm like, you know what, I have
34:58
Speaker 1: people around me that love me. I have other things
35:01
Speaker 1: that I could do, and there's just so much more
35:04
Speaker 1: to life.
35:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like being able to articulate that value,
35:07
Speaker 2: right that you, as Gabby have value, not just as
35:12
Speaker 2: Gabby this like superstellar cheerleader, but also just as like
35:16
Speaker 2: Gabby Butler the woman. Right.
35:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I definitely think that, Yeah, just having a
35:22
Speaker 1: positive mindset because I'm going to use one girl as
35:25
Speaker 1: an example. Her name is Michaela and she actually just
35:29
Speaker 1: had a spinal injury with cheerleading and I was going
35:33
Speaker 1: through some stuff and I looked and as soon as
35:36
Speaker 1: that happened, I was like wow. And you know, something
35:39
Speaker 1: that really impacted me a lot with her story is
35:44
Speaker 1: even after she was paralyzed, like from the neck down,
35:47
Speaker 1: basically she was like, I know that God has a
35:50
Speaker 1: plan for everything, and I know that at the end
35:53
Speaker 1: of the day, like I'm going to trust him and
35:55
Speaker 1: like just hope for the best. And if I stay
35:58
Speaker 1: like this, I'm just grateful for all the people around
36:01
Speaker 1: me that are like loving and supportive and that really
36:05
Speaker 1: really like spoke to me, because I'm like, Wow, if
36:07
Speaker 1: this girl, if this young girl can have a mindset
36:11
Speaker 1: like that and she's basically paralyzed from the neck down,
36:15
Speaker 1: and an update on her she's actually able to move now,
36:18
Speaker 1: which is like super super amazing. That just really moved me.
36:21
Speaker 1: I was like, if I have a mindset like that,
36:25
Speaker 1: because she's dealing with this and she's in that mindset,
36:28
Speaker 1: then I should be a lot more positive.
36:30
Speaker 2: You know, whether these hurdles are these tough moments like
36:33
Speaker 2: happened to you personally, or you get to have like
36:35
Speaker 2: a front row seat and see someone that you know
36:38
Speaker 2: go through something difficult. It's these difficult moments that teach us,
36:42
Speaker 2: sometimes unfortunately but thankfully, to appreciate the smaller stuff. At
36:48
Speaker 2: completely different exercise, but a couple of years back, I
36:51
Speaker 2: started writing down one thing every morning that I was
36:53
Speaker 2: grateful for. And what that exercise did, aside from like
36:56
Speaker 2: bring some more gratitude into my life, was that on
36:59
Speaker 2: the morning that I couldn't articulate like what the one
37:02
Speaker 2: thing was from the past twenty four hours that was
37:04
Speaker 2: really awesome and radiant, I was like, what are you
37:07
Speaker 2: doing that you're so wrapped up in like nothing important
37:10
Speaker 2: that you can't find the joy in your day to day.
37:13
Speaker 1: The way that you think and your mindset can really
37:16
Speaker 1: like change the way you do things. And I think
37:20
Speaker 1: that there is so much negativity out in the world,
37:24
Speaker 1: so I think that finding the positives are so important,
37:30
Speaker 1: especially nowadays, because I feel like a lot of people
37:34
Speaker 1: can easily get brought down because of a lot of
37:38
Speaker 1: things in life. You have to stay positive no matter what,
37:42
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, things aren't always
37:46
Speaker 1: going to stay that way. You're not always going to
37:48
Speaker 1: stay on the top and you're not always going to
37:51
Speaker 1: be at the bottom. So you have to be grateful
37:54
Speaker 1: when you're on the top, and then you have to
37:56
Speaker 1: be hopeful for when you're at the bottom. I've had
37:59
Speaker 1: my like day where i feel like I'm on top
38:02
Speaker 1: of the world, and then the next day I feel
38:05
Speaker 1: I'm at the lowest points of my life.
38:07
Speaker 4: But I.
38:09
Speaker 1: Have to understand that that's just the way life goes.
38:12
Speaker 1: You're never going to have a perfect steady ride. It's
38:16
Speaker 1: going to be up and down, in sideways and turning,
38:18
Speaker 1: and you just have to like really stay positive and
38:21
Speaker 1: just know that you're not going to always be in
38:23
Speaker 1: those highs and lows forever.
38:25
Speaker 2: Have you worked with a sports psychologist a sports psychologist, Yeah, no,
38:30
Speaker 2: I have not, But that's actually why does it?
38:35
Speaker 3: Does it?
38:36
Speaker 1: Like?
38:37
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that you have a really great outlook,
38:39
Speaker 2: but I do think that a lot of these takeaways,
38:41
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, they can be learned. I mean I
38:43
Speaker 2: haven't worked with the sports psychologist. I've worked with a therapist.
38:46
Speaker 2: I actually have a call with a life coach in
38:48
Speaker 2: forty five minutes from right now. But listening to you
38:51
Speaker 2: talk about your experiences and the broad understanding that you
38:54
Speaker 2: have from the highs and the lows. It just was
38:57
Speaker 2: something that I feel like someone at your level of
38:59
Speaker 2: perform ormance, it wouldn't surprise me.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, thank you. That's yeah.
39:04
Speaker 1: I definitely like I try to take a bad situation
39:07
Speaker 1: and make it positive, even though I definitely have had
39:11
Speaker 1: my times where I'm like I just want to, Like,
39:14
Speaker 1: there's days that I want to quit. There's days that
39:16
Speaker 1: I want to just say, like, I don't want to
39:19
Speaker 1: do this anymore. But I definitely just try to like
39:23
Speaker 1: make the best of it and be as positive and
39:26
Speaker 1: grateful as I can.
39:29
Speaker 2: Aside from the season premiere, season two premiere of Cheer,
39:34
Speaker 2: what else excites you right now?
39:37
Speaker 1: I do have a few things that I'm doing right now.
39:39
Speaker 1: So one is, I have this fitness app that I'm
39:42
Speaker 1: actually relaunching this year. I have my YouTube channel that
39:46
Speaker 1: I'm actually relaunching and I'm going to be making a
39:49
Speaker 1: lot more content for that as well this year. And
39:53
Speaker 1: I also have this clothing line that I've been working
39:57
Speaker 1: on with Rebel.
39:59
Speaker 3: Sounds like a lot of really great stuff.
40:01
Speaker 2: And then I'd be remiss if I didn't bring up
40:03
Speaker 2: you cheering at Weber State, Utah. I think I looked
40:06
Speaker 2: at the forecast before you and I hopped on this call,
40:08
Speaker 2: and the forecast there today was like something like thirty
40:11
Speaker 2: two degrees, a very different scenario from where you grew
40:15
Speaker 2: up in Boca.
40:17
Speaker 1: It's so funny because I was like, there is no
40:21
Speaker 1: way that I'm going too cold Utah. Like I've always
40:24
Speaker 1: lived in hot states, and you know, Florida and Texas,
40:28
Speaker 1: like they're pretty similar. They're they're always hot. But I
40:32
Speaker 1: was like, there's at that was like one of the
40:33
Speaker 1: biggest things. I'm like, that's gonna be so hard for
40:36
Speaker 1: me to because I'm not used to the cold at all,
40:39
Speaker 1: and like I'm not I do not.
40:41
Speaker 4: Work well in the cold.
40:42
Speaker 1: But surprisingly, it really hasn't been like as bad as
40:45
Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be.
40:47
Speaker 4: I've actually like learned to kind of like the cold,
40:50
Speaker 4: even though I'm not really like, yeah, I'm not. I
40:54
Speaker 4: love looking at the snow.
40:56
Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful, but I'm like when I go
40:58
Speaker 1: in it, I'm like, Okay, I'm not gonna go back inside.
41:01
Speaker 2: You're like, I do not need to own any of
41:03
Speaker 2: my own property here because I will not be shoveling it.
41:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, absolutely not, but I definitely have. It's grown
41:10
Speaker 1: on me a little bit, Like I think it's so pretty,
41:12
Speaker 1: like when it snows, because I'm you know, I'm not
41:14
Speaker 1: used to seeing it snow.
41:16
Speaker 4: I'm used to oceans.
41:17
Speaker 1: So for me, I come here and I'm like, I
41:20
Speaker 1: look like a little kid in the candy store because.
41:22
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh gosh, it's snow.
41:23
Speaker 1: And then I'm sure some people from here they go
41:25
Speaker 1: to Florida and they're like, oh my gosh, it's the beach.
41:27
Speaker 1: Like that's but that's something that I've been like brought
41:30
Speaker 1: up with, so it's not like anything new for me.
41:33
Speaker 3: Exactly Exactly. We mentioned your large social media following.
41:38
Speaker 2: Before someone comes to your Instagram page, they see a cheerleader,
41:42
Speaker 2: someone with millions plural of followers. When you look in
41:46
Speaker 2: the mirror, what is it that you see looking back
41:48
Speaker 2: at you.
41:49
Speaker 1: I just see Gabby, Like I see like this, I
41:52
Speaker 1: see like the little girl that basically I mean not
41:55
Speaker 1: a little girl actually, but like I see like kind
41:58
Speaker 1: of like my chill likeummy side. I'll wake up in
42:01
Speaker 1: the morning and my hair is all over the place
42:03
Speaker 1: and I'm looking like a freaking I just yeah, like
42:07
Speaker 1: a like a bum and I love that side, like
42:09
Speaker 1: I love the.
42:10
Speaker 4: Real side of me, just because I a lot of people.
42:13
Speaker 1: That know me know me, like they know that I
42:16
Speaker 1: really am so chill and like normal, and I just
42:20
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's so funny because when I
42:22
Speaker 1: do meet people, they're like, oh my gosh, I wasn't
42:24
Speaker 1: expecting you to be like so talkative and down to earth,
42:28
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm probably one of the most chill
42:30
Speaker 1: people I think in the public eye or have a
42:33
Speaker 1: lot of followers, just because I've been so like used
42:37
Speaker 1: to it.
42:38
Speaker 4: It's never changed me.
42:39
Speaker 2: You mentioned it being super hard on the body. I'm
42:41
Speaker 2: sure a lot of people listening to this are really curious.
42:44
Speaker 2: What are some things that you do, either prehab or
42:47
Speaker 2: posthab to make sure that you're taking care of yourself
42:50
Speaker 2: in the way that you have to to be on
42:52
Speaker 2: top of your sport.
42:53
Speaker 1: I make sure that outside of practice, I'm keeping myself
42:56
Speaker 1: in good physical shape because I know that she is
43:00
Speaker 1: a great like it's great for working out, and it's
43:02
Speaker 1: great for keeping yourself in shape, but I want to
43:04
Speaker 1: make sure that I am in the best physical shape
43:07
Speaker 1: that I can be in so that I can be
43:10
Speaker 1: the best for my team. And what I like to
43:12
Speaker 1: do is I like to actually work out outside of
43:15
Speaker 1: my practices so I can be more strong, like physically
43:20
Speaker 1: stronger and even like mentally stronger, because I feel like
43:23
Speaker 1: it's a good way for me to like let out
43:25
Speaker 1: like all my anxiety or my stress, like that's the
43:29
Speaker 1: gym has always been there for like a decompression for me,
43:32
Speaker 1: like a stress reliever. And then also something that I
43:36
Speaker 1: like to do just outside of practices is just like
43:39
Speaker 1: really take time for myself and like hang out with
43:42
Speaker 1: the people that have been there for me and the
43:45
Speaker 1: people that like actually like care about me. Obviously, people
43:48
Speaker 1: see me at practice and they see like that side
43:50
Speaker 1: of Gabby. They see the athlete side, they see the
43:53
Speaker 1: tough side. But the people that like know me know
43:58
Speaker 1: that I'm a normal person too, and they know that
44:00
Speaker 1: I do struggle with things and I do have things
44:02
Speaker 1: going on in my life and it's not just the
44:06
Speaker 1: athlete side. So I really really like to just surround
44:09
Speaker 1: myself with like the people that have been there for me,
44:12
Speaker 1: like outside of practices, and the people that like really
44:16
Speaker 1: want to hang out with me and get to know me.
44:18
Speaker 1: For me, I would say like those two things, Like
44:21
Speaker 1: I really like focus.
44:22
Speaker 2: On outside of practice. How many days a week would
44:25
Speaker 2: you say you're in the gym?
44:26
Speaker 1: Pretty much every day I'm in the gym, Like every day.
44:31
Speaker 1: My mom thinks something's wrong with me. She's like, you
44:33
Speaker 1: are not mentally well. Like if you actually enjoy going
44:36
Speaker 1: to the gym that much, I'm like, I.
44:38
Speaker 4: But I do.
44:39
Speaker 1: I genuinely do enjoy it. I feel like it's like
44:42
Speaker 1: a really good way for me to like let out
44:44
Speaker 1: some like you know, steam, and then also just like
44:48
Speaker 1: feel good, because like when you feel when you look good,
44:50
Speaker 1: like you feel good, and I feel like working out
44:53
Speaker 1: is definitely like one of the things that I personally enjoy.
44:57
Speaker 3: Strength Cardio Mix question mark.
45:00
Speaker 1: I like to do a lot of cardio, which a
45:02
Speaker 1: lot of people don't like. That's my specific strength. I
45:05
Speaker 1: do need to start adding more weights in, but I do.
45:08
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a cardio queen. I can go for
45:10
Speaker 1: hours on like a treadmill or the stairs. That's like
45:15
Speaker 1: my go to the stairs, So I could go on
45:18
Speaker 1: that thing for like hours.
45:21
Speaker 2: All fellow cardio queens listening to this podcast right now
45:23
Speaker 2: are like, I'm not alone.
45:25
Speaker 3: It's so good.
45:25
Speaker 1: Thank God, it is like honest, now, like just watch
45:29
Speaker 1: TikTok's or I'll like have conversations like so the time
45:32
Speaker 1: goes by faster, or I'll watch a movie.
45:35
Speaker 4: I just think it's like so easy. I'm like, yeah,
45:37
Speaker 4: I can do this for days.
45:40
Speaker 3: All right, Gabby?
45:41
Speaker 2: Right now, final question, you have an opportunity to offer
45:45
Speaker 2: yourself a piece of advice. Let's maybe go back to
45:48
Speaker 2: the beginning of your journey with Navarro. You have an
45:52
Speaker 2: opportunity right now, looking back on your last few years
45:55
Speaker 2: doing this, to offer yourself one piece of advice during
45:58
Speaker 2: some of maybe the more difficult times.
46:01
Speaker 3: What do you tell yourself.
46:03
Speaker 1: I would definitely just say, like, during your hard times,
46:07
Speaker 1: don't feel like you're alone, because everybody goes through things.
46:12
Speaker 1: Everyone has their own battles that they're doing and they're facing,
46:16
Speaker 1: and I think that it's important that you communicate those
46:19
Speaker 1: things so that people can help you through situations. I
46:23
Speaker 1: think that, yeah, people go through things all the time,
46:25
Speaker 1: and you have to understand like you're not the only
46:27
Speaker 1: one going through something. And I think that's staying strong
46:30
Speaker 1: and like just reaching out to people when you do
46:33
Speaker 1: need the help, Like you would be surprised at how
46:36
Speaker 1: many people are there for you?
46:38
Speaker 3: For sure, Gabby Butler, thank you so much for your
46:41
Speaker 3: time today. How do the Hurdlers follow along with you?
46:43
Speaker 3: How do they keep up with you? Give us all
46:45
Speaker 3: your details.
46:46
Speaker 1: So my Instagram is Gabby Butler sixteen seventeen, and a
46:50
Speaker 1: lot of people ask me why it's sixteen seventeen.
46:52
Speaker 4: So I actually made it when I was like twelve.
46:55
Speaker 1: But the sixteen stands for my birthday because my birthday
46:58
Speaker 1: is January sixteenth, and then my younger sister, Amanda's birthday's
47:02
Speaker 1: February seventeen. The name Gabby Butler was taken, so I
47:05
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I guess I'm just gonna have to
47:07
Speaker 1: use numbers. So Instagram's Gobby Butler sixteen seventeen. My YouTube
47:11
Speaker 1: channel is literally just Gabby Butler. My TikTok is Gabby
47:15
Speaker 1: Underscore Butler sixteen seventeen. And yeah, that's pretty much it.
47:20
Speaker 1: I deleted Twitter because it's toxic.
47:22
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, what a big week for you, Geez
47:25
Speaker 3: and New Steason premiere a birthday you have nothing going on?
47:28
Speaker 3: Enjoy it. Happy birthday, guaB.
47:30
Speaker 2: But I'm over at Hurdle Podcasts and at Emily Body
47:33
Speaker 2: another hurdle conquered.
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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.