Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 9-21-26 Hour 3 - Ryan Harris/Relaxed about the Broncos now?/Sutton is no longer WR #1
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- 0:51Speaker 4: We're joined by Ryan Harris.
- 0:53Speaker 2: What's up, Ryan?
- 0:54Speaker 3: What's up, fellas? How about a victory Monday? How's that taste?
- 0:58Speaker 3: Pretty good.
- 0:59Speaker 4: Yes, and it is a rally house football Monday. Now,
- 1:01Speaker 4: let me ask you something, Ryan. How do you judge
- 1:06Speaker 4: what we saw basically all of last year that continued
- 1:09Speaker 4: into week two, which was expert finish, sputtering start? What
- 1:14Speaker 4: do you do with that?
- 1:15Speaker 3: You need to have it in your quiver. That's an
- 1:18Speaker 3: arrow you've got to have with you every day because
- 1:20Speaker 3: you're going to go against a team where maybe things
- 1:22Speaker 3: aren't going well. Even here against the Jaguars did not
- 1:25Speaker 3: go perfectly to start, but the effort was there. And
- 1:28Speaker 3: you have to have that knowledge as a team that
- 1:31Speaker 3: whatever the score, we are going to come back and win.
- 1:33Speaker 3: It's a different level of confidence. It's not checking the scoreboard.
- 1:37Speaker 3: It's playing the game. And say what you want. And, yes,
- 1:40Speaker 3: the defense helped out big time in that third quarter
- 1:43Speaker 3: with holding the Jags to a field goal. But I'll
- 1:46Speaker 3: tell you something. You have to be able to win
- 1:48Speaker 3: games like that, and you have to have that belief
- 1:51Speaker 3: in the coaching staff and your teammates to get it done.
- 1:54Speaker 5: Nothing about that game surprised me. I thought it was
- 1:55Speaker 5: going to be a close game, Ryan, and I thought
- 1:57Speaker 5: it would come down to it, which it did. I
- 2:01Speaker 5: don't like the fact that the Broncos are still struggling
- 2:04Speaker 5: with these mechanical penalties. All starts the offsides.
- 2:10Speaker 2: What causes that?
- 2:11Speaker 5: And why does it seem to continue to persist with
- 2:15Speaker 5: this team?
- 2:16Speaker 3: A lack of focus and a lack of punishment. Right.
- 2:19Speaker 3: And that's so the punishment has not been found to
- 2:22Speaker 3: where players are embarrassed enough. I mean, Peyton Manning used
- 2:25Speaker 3: to kick you off the field. Get out of here. Oh,
- 2:28Speaker 3: you better, you know, you learn pretty quick to be
- 2:31Speaker 3: on sides when a Hall of Famer starts kicking you
- 2:34Speaker 3: out of the huddle. And you don't know when you're
- 2:35Speaker 3: coming back, right? He doesn't say, hey, get out of
- 2:37Speaker 3: here for a place. It's get out of here.
- 2:38Speaker 5: What would the coaches do when you did that?
- 2:40Speaker 3: Well, and that's a question. That's a fair question, they
- 2:43Speaker 3: would say, right? And that's why I say the consequence
- 2:47Speaker 3: is not high enough and the communication is not high enough.
- 2:50Speaker 3: So you have to make it a point of emphasis,
- 2:52Speaker 3: but also understand why it's happening. Is it just because
- 2:55Speaker 3: you're changing the snap count once? Is there not a
- 2:58Speaker 3: process in there to let guys know? When I was
- 3:01Speaker 3: at the Chiefs with Alex Smith, we had what we
- 3:03Speaker 3: called Tyson. Tyson, that meant three-piece, one, two, three. So hut, hut, hut.
- 3:08Speaker 3: So you've got to create a process, something like that,
- 3:10Speaker 3: to when bullets are flying, so to speak, figuratively, guys
- 3:14Speaker 3: understand and can lock on to something to keep that focus.
- 3:17Speaker 6: Ryan, help me out with this, though. Sean Payton made
- 3:20Speaker 6: it a point of emphasis all year long. or all offseason,
- 3:24Speaker 6: that we can't live on the razor's edge anymore. We
- 3:26Speaker 6: just can't do it because we were 13-3 in one
- 3:29Speaker 6: score games in the last 16 of them.
- 3:32Speaker 2: But yet, they continue to do that.
- 3:34Speaker 6: Now, if you win those games, and there's hardly anybody
- 3:37Speaker 6: I'd rather have than Bo Nix under center in the
- 3:38Speaker 6: fourth quarter trying to come back and win, but what's
- 3:41Speaker 6: the long-term prognosis of that against good teams in the NFL?
- 3:44Speaker 3: Well, if you win, I guess we don't care, do we?
- 3:48Speaker 4: Right?
- 3:48Speaker 3: I mean, do we care if it's close and they win?
- 3:51Speaker 6: No, but the odds of them coming back to the
- 3:52Speaker 6: mean to me seem like that's more likely to happen.
- 3:56Speaker 3: Well, you know, all those projections and data, that's for
- 3:59Speaker 3: baseball and hockey.
- 4:01Speaker 4: Okay?
- 4:01Speaker 3: Football is made with leather. Okay? And it's stitched together
- 4:05Speaker 3: with the souls of joyful spirits who have played the game.
- 4:09Speaker 3: And that's something where you.
- 4:10Speaker 2: NFL Films is here. We should record that and give
- 4:13Speaker 2: it to them. That was good.
- 4:15Speaker 3: Well, but for real, I mean, you have to be
- 4:17Speaker 3: the team you are. And if you get off to
- 4:19Speaker 3: a slow start, nobody wants to do that, but that's
- 4:21Speaker 3: in the danger of where they're becoming. They're becoming a
- 4:23Speaker 3: team that has to fight back if this keeps happening.
- 4:26Speaker 3: But again, you had, I believe it was three procedural
- 4:29Speaker 3: penalties on the offense in the first half. That should
- 4:33Speaker 3: be a game. You need to have three penalties a game, right?
- 4:36Speaker 3: And so it's hard to get started when people, and
- 4:39Speaker 3: maybe it's too excited, maybe everybody's too excited, maybe they're
- 4:42Speaker 3: serving too much coffee, but That's something that coaching staff
- 4:45Speaker 3: has to attack, and again, something you have to communicate
- 4:48Speaker 3: to the players. If you do not communicate it and
- 4:50Speaker 3: do not understand you have this issue, you're not going
- 4:53Speaker 3: to improve.
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- 5:07Speaker 4: Turn to the experts. So, Ryan, one thing that I
- 5:10Speaker 4: think is a gigantic positive, you invest a first-round pick
- 5:13Speaker 4: this offseason, your first-round pick, and a playmaker on offense.
- 5:17Speaker 4: Did not get him the football in week one, but
- 5:19Speaker 4: you certainly did in week two. When's the last time
- 5:21Speaker 4: you think Denver's had a receiver or offensive playmaker as
- 5:25Speaker 4: dynamic as Jalen Waddle?
- 5:27Speaker 3: I mean, Manuel Sanders, speed-wise, even DT didn't have that
- 5:32Speaker 3: kind of lightning quickness. And what I love is that
- 5:35Speaker 3: they clearly, the Broncos coaching staff clearly said, let's get
- 5:38Speaker 3: him some touches early. Let's get him involved. And some
- 5:43Speaker 3: players need that. Linemen need that, right? Hey, coach, you
- 5:45Speaker 3: got to let me go hit somebody six plays in
- 5:47Speaker 3: a row before I know what I'm doing in this game.
- 5:49Speaker 3: And so I love even that bubble pass to him
- 5:52Speaker 3: where it doesn't get a bunch of yards. That got
- 5:54Speaker 3: him engaged. And you could tell in the postgame press presser.
- 5:59Speaker 3: Waddle's saying, yeah, that was really good to get started early.
- 6:02Speaker 3: And so they've now identified how to activate their most
- 6:05Speaker 3: dynamic player, and look what it opened up. Waddle makes
- 6:09Speaker 3: a catch across the middle. Guess who has to go
- 6:10Speaker 3: back there? A safety. And here comes Jonah Coleman. I mean,
- 6:13Speaker 3: this is how offense works. You need to have it early,
- 6:16Speaker 3: and you want to get in that defense's mind early
- 6:18Speaker 3: too that they've got a problem with Jalen Waddle. But
- 6:21Speaker 3: what a game for Waddle, and what a turnaround in
- 6:23Speaker 3: just six days.
- 6:25Speaker 5: I thought Bo Nix statistically had a really good game.
- 6:28Speaker 5: He outplayed his counterpart, Trevor Lawrence. I mean, you saw
- 6:31Speaker 5: the numbers. I think it changed, Ryan, after he ran
- 6:35Speaker 5: the ball on that designed run boot. He looked like
- 6:39Speaker 5: something clicked. Why does that happen with him? And it's
- 6:42Speaker 5: not just yesterday. We've seen it time and time again.
- 6:45Speaker 5: As soon as he gets hit or as soon as
- 6:47Speaker 5: he gets in a run orientation, he suddenly just sort
- 6:51Speaker 5: of lets his hair down and plays good football. Why
- 6:53Speaker 5: not do it earlier in the game?
- 6:55Speaker 3: Sometimes you got to get hit to get angry. And
- 6:58Speaker 3: just angry enough, right? And I think the other thing, too,
- 7:01Speaker 3: that people are going to overlook with this big win,
- 7:04Speaker 3: that interception Bo Nix had, he was rolling to his right,
- 7:08Speaker 3: falling off his back foot. I think he gets frustrated
- 7:10Speaker 3: with himself. When he forgets his technique, which is exactly
- 7:14Speaker 3: what you want your quarterback to be. But I think
- 7:16Speaker 3: that was a key point in the game, too. I mean,
- 7:17Speaker 3: not coming away with points. Had they scored a touchdown
- 7:20Speaker 3: there or even a field goal? That's a very different game, too.
- 7:22Speaker 6: Right.
- 7:23Speaker 3: So I think you have a quarterback who cares and
- 7:26Speaker 3: who is still young enough that sometimes they got to
- 7:29Speaker 3: wake up. And that's the biggest challenge as a pro.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Can I show up and have no bad days in
- 7:34Speaker 3: terms of like I'm ready to go? I'm ready to attack.
- 7:37Speaker 3: I don't have to wait to get upset because anytime
- 7:40Speaker 3: you have to wait like that, teams eventually will figure
- 7:42Speaker 3: that out about you. I've heard it on the field.
- 7:46Speaker 3: They'll say, hey, great pass. Defensive linemen coming by saying,
- 7:49Speaker 3: great pass. Hey, way to go. Oh, they don't want
- 7:52Speaker 3: you to get mad because they want you to be
- 7:54Speaker 3: that sleeping giant.
- 7:55Speaker 6: It's almost like Ryan, he, for the most part, loves
- 7:59Speaker 6: to live in that chaos, right? And I said this
- 8:02Speaker 6: to the guys in the show, but I said it
- 8:03Speaker 6: yesterday on the old Twitter machine that, like, when he
- 8:05Speaker 6: just says, all right, blanket, I'm just going to go
- 8:08Speaker 6: play the damn game, right? Like, he's not in his head.
- 8:10Speaker 6: He's not thinking about timing. He's not thinking about, what
- 8:13Speaker 6: am I progressing?
- 8:13Speaker 4: He's like, you know what?
- 8:14Speaker 2: I'm going to go play.
- 8:15Speaker 6: And it's not streetball because he's still a total pro,
- 8:17Speaker 6: but he's like, man, let's just go sling it.
- 8:19Speaker 2: Let's go, baby.
- 8:20Speaker 6: And then everything comes off of that. Everything starts to
- 8:23Speaker 6: get into rhythm, and you can physically see in him
- 8:25Speaker 6: as a quarterback that, A difference from one half to
- 8:29Speaker 6: the other. You can physically look at his mannerisms, Ryan,
- 8:31Speaker 6: and they're different.
- 8:33Speaker 3: Well, we don't know what he's being asked to do, right?
- 8:36Speaker 3: So if he's being asked to make sure that this happens,
- 8:39Speaker 3: make sure that that happens versus, you know, when I
- 8:41Speaker 3: was with Gary Kubiak, we won the Super Bowl. Hey,
- 8:44Speaker 3: let your personality out. I want to see your personalities.
- 8:47Speaker 3: If you make a mistake, that's on us as coaches.
- 8:49Speaker 3: So that's part of it. But the other part, I
- 8:51Speaker 3: thought you were talking about you, Moj. You know, it
- 8:54Speaker 3: starts off a little bit, but you love the chaos.
- 8:57Speaker 3: And there's no way to articulate for people how fun
- 9:01Speaker 3: that feels in the NFL when that chaos is happening.
- 9:04Speaker 3: And when it's, you know, a Sunday afternoon and it's,
- 9:07Speaker 3: you know, nice outside, the crowd's quiet, you can smell
- 9:09Speaker 3: the anticipation. It's a little different, but that's the area.
- 9:13Speaker 3: These are the areas now we're talking about. You need
- 9:15Speaker 3: your quarterback to grow. How different is that from when
- 9:18Speaker 3: you had Russell Wilson? I guess we can't even say
- 9:21Speaker 3: Drew Locke anymore. He's taking himself out of the conversation. But,
- 9:24Speaker 3: I mean, this is the piece. Bo Nix still has
- 9:26Speaker 3: to grow up a little bit. It's hard to do.
- 9:29Speaker 3: All of us had to be better in our third, fourth,
- 9:32Speaker 3: fifth year than we were earlier. But he needs to
- 9:34Speaker 3: grow in these small areas. And he is the impetus.
- 9:37Speaker 3: I agree with you. If he gets going, everybody else
- 9:39Speaker 3: does too.
- 9:40Speaker 4: How do players feel when the fans are booing them?
- 9:44Speaker 3: You understand. You really aren't hearing it because usually if
- 9:46Speaker 3: the fans are booing you, three different coaches are cussing
- 9:49Speaker 3: players out as they're walking to the sidelines, right? I mean,
- 9:51Speaker 3: that's something where, you know, you hear the boos, but
- 9:55Speaker 3: they are secondary to the other insults coming your way rapidly.
- 9:58Speaker 5: That's a good way to put it. I saw you
- 10:00Speaker 5: at the game, Ryan Harris, and you're walking around, you're
- 10:03Speaker 5: in the player's box. Did you run into Tebow at all?
- 10:06Speaker 3: I did. And boys, I, I, I got Tebow to
- 10:10Speaker 3: meet the kids and get the kids an autograph. How
- 10:14Speaker 3: about that? Do I get dad of the year?
- 10:16Speaker 5: Yeah, man.
- 10:17Speaker 3: Come on, man.
- 10:18Speaker 5: You were not with the Broncos during that magical 2011 season, correct?
- 10:22Speaker 3: I was at the end of it.
- 10:24Speaker 4: At the end of it.
- 10:25Speaker 3: And more importantly, I was there for those real Broncos
- 10:28Speaker 3: country OG, triple OGs. How about that comeback win against
- 10:32Speaker 3: Houston in Denver? That was, I think, the real big
- 10:36Speaker 3: part of Tebow's career. But, of course, everybody remembers the
- 10:41Speaker 3: touchdown pass. I had come back. If you guys remember,
- 10:44Speaker 3: Chris Cooper had an ankle injury, so they brought me back.
- 10:46Speaker 3: I was in sweatpants, got to see it, got to
- 10:48Speaker 3: eat the pizzas. But I can't say enough about Tim Tebow.
- 10:52Speaker 3: One of the best teammates ever had. He is who
- 10:54Speaker 3: he says he is. And I can't say that about
- 10:56Speaker 3: a lot of my teammates.
- 10:57Speaker 5: The reason I bring him up, Ryan, is we have
- 10:59Speaker 5: NFL Films here at the station today. They're doing a
- 11:02Speaker 5: documentary on Tebow. And I'm going to sit down with
- 11:06Speaker 5: him after the show to talk about the Tebow era.
- 11:09Speaker 5: Can you please provide me an anecdote, a story, something that,
- 11:13Speaker 5: I mean, everybody remembers the era. And is there something
- 11:16Speaker 5: you learned? Is there something you experienced at Tebow that
- 11:19Speaker 5: we may not know about?
- 11:21Speaker 3: Oh, man. I mean, one, he took the offensive line.
- 11:26Speaker 3: The quarterbacks in Denver typically, I don't know what they
- 11:29Speaker 3: do now, took the offensive line to Vegas. Well, Tim
- 11:32Speaker 3: Tebow takes us to Vegas. We land. We go straight
- 11:35Speaker 3: to the Children's Hospital to the NICU surgery unit. And
- 11:39Speaker 3: I tell you what, you want to see 300-pounders holding
- 11:42Speaker 3: back tears, looking at premature babies that need brain surgery?
- 11:46Speaker 3: I mean, this is who Tim Tebow was.
- 11:48Speaker 5: I'm going to use this. So wait a minute. So
- 11:50Speaker 5: instead of going to Vegas. but you went to gamble afterwards.
- 11:53Speaker 3: Well, what he took us to the hotel afterwards and
- 11:55Speaker 3: met us at dinner, but I'm telling you, no other
- 11:58Speaker 3: quarterback took you from the tarmac to the, to the
- 12:02Speaker 3: NICU ICU, right? Like the NICU ICU surgery unit. And man,
- 12:08Speaker 3: it was, it was something I think that stuck with
- 12:10Speaker 3: us all. The other thing is just, he came in
- 12:12Speaker 3: and everybody didn't know, right? I mean, we saw all the,
- 12:15Speaker 3: the Florida and the, But I'll tell you what, he
- 12:18Speaker 3: would have a 50-pound weight vest on beating everybody in sprints.
- 12:23Speaker 3: And he would be screaming, come on, encouraging people. He
- 12:26Speaker 3: was the most, I think, inspiring teammate who led by
- 12:33Speaker 3: example because he showed you how fast he was going.
- 12:36Speaker 3: And he was that way off the field. He interacted
- 12:38Speaker 3: with guys, everything.
- 12:39Speaker 4: You thought maybe it was inauthentic before you actually met him.
- 12:42Speaker 4: Like maybe this is all part of a show.
- 12:45Speaker 3: Yeah. And, you know, especially in the NFL, you're saying
- 12:48Speaker 3: this isn't going to work in the NFL. Like, good
- 12:50Speaker 3: for you, you know. But he made believers out of
- 12:54Speaker 3: all of us. And I think you could say that
- 12:56Speaker 3: really about Broncos country as a whole. And it's been great.
- 12:58Speaker 3: It was awesome to see. That was the first time
- 13:00Speaker 3: he was back in 15 years. That's crazy. How about
- 13:02Speaker 3: the Walton Penners bringing him back? He's a part of
- 13:05Speaker 3: the Broncos history. We had some fun. I had a
- 13:07Speaker 3: lot of fun winning games with him. And I think
- 13:10Speaker 3: he inspired a lot of people. You even saw Bo
- 13:13Speaker 3: Nix last night kind of smile thinking about how he
- 13:15Speaker 3: got a Tim Tebow signed jersey. I mean, that's the
- 13:18Speaker 3: impact of Tim Tebow. I don't think there's been another
- 13:20Speaker 3: player like him in football.
- 13:24Speaker 4: Ryan Harris with us. Last thing for you, Ryan, I
- 13:26Speaker 4: do want to ask you this before you head out.
- 13:28Speaker 4: Your assessment through two weeks at Davis Webb.
- 13:31Speaker 3: Love it. You can't do too much when you've got
- 13:33Speaker 3: 17 penalties in two games, right? So you can't judge
- 13:36Speaker 3: them too much. Get those penalties down. But I do
- 13:39Speaker 3: like the way he spread the football around. I mean,
- 13:40Speaker 3: you had Atkins, Franklin, everybody touched the ball yesterday. Jonah
- 13:45Speaker 3: Coleman was ready when he needed to be activated. So
- 13:47Speaker 3: they're doing the right things. He's just got to stay
- 13:49Speaker 3: out of third and long due to penalty. That's on
- 13:51Speaker 3: the team.
- 13:52Speaker 6: That being said, Dobbins left the game. Dang, RJ didn't play.
- 13:57Speaker 6: Coleman and Bidet are it right now. What do you
- 14:00Speaker 6: do this week?
- 14:01Speaker 4: What do you do?
- 14:02Speaker 3: Well, you see if you can go and get your
- 14:03Speaker 3: little McLaughlin out of the practice squad too, right? You
- 14:06Speaker 3: can come bring him back. Two, you got to remember now,
- 14:09Speaker 3: just because a player makes a pinky promise doesn't mean
- 14:11Speaker 3: it's going to be true. You know, J.K. Dobbins injured.
- 14:14Speaker 3: So you got to do more yoga, but you got
- 14:17Speaker 3: to be ready for it. And it changes the game
- 14:19Speaker 3: plan a little bit. Maybe there's a little more jet sweeps,
- 14:21Speaker 3: things like that. but you need to let Jonah Coleman
- 14:24Speaker 3: earn his reps. He's shown he's earned some reps. That
- 14:27Speaker 3: was some big time, especially going down at the end
- 14:29Speaker 3: of the game like that.
- 14:30Speaker 4: What a smart play. What a smart play.
- 14:33Speaker 3: That's the kind of heads-up play where, as a teammate,
- 14:35Speaker 3: you're even more almost as excited about that as a touchdown, right? Like,
- 14:38Speaker 3: I can trust that guy in big moments.
- 14:40Speaker 4: Yeah, when I saw him slide and stay in bounds,
- 14:42Speaker 4: I'm like, kid, you're so damn smart. Ryan.
- 14:44Speaker 5: You're so damn smart. Ryan, that's a play a Notre
- 14:47Speaker 5: Dame guy makes. I thought he was a domer at
- 14:48Speaker 5: that point.
- 14:48Speaker 3: 100%. Yeah, I was like, man, he must have went...
- 14:51Speaker 3: Did he go to.
- 14:51Speaker 5: I had to check the stats.
- 14:53Speaker 3: Did he transfer? But I'm sure Notre Dame recruited him.
- 14:55Speaker 3: We didn't recruit intelligence like that.
- 14:57Speaker 4: That's Ryan Harris. He joins us every Monday. Appreciate it, Ryan.
- 15:00Speaker 3: Thanks, buddy.
- 15:00Speaker 4: We'll talk next week.
- 15:00Speaker 3: Love you guys. See you, buddy.
- 15:01Speaker 6: Peace.
- 15:02Speaker 4: Ryan Harris. I love talking to Ryan. He joins us
- 15:04Speaker 4: every single Monday.
- 15:06Speaker 5: You know what it is about Ryan? It just hit me.
- 15:09Speaker 5: You know why he's good at this?
- 15:09Speaker 7: Yeah, his.
- 15:10Speaker 5: I'm going to tell you why he's good at this.
- 15:11Speaker 4: His shirt's pressed very nicely.
- 15:13Speaker 5: He speaks in soundbites.
- 15:15Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 15:16Speaker 5: You understand the difference?
- 15:17Speaker 4: Yes.
- 15:18Speaker 3: Like when.
- 15:18Speaker 5: Just so anybody knows, when you're interviewing somebody, you want
- 15:22Speaker 5: them to finish the statement in a due amount of
- 15:26Speaker 5: time that doesn't drone on. When Mark goes on these
- 15:30Speaker 5: four-minute questions and you hear Ryan answer a question in
- 15:34Speaker 5: 20 seconds, it's quick, to the point, concise, and clear.
- 15:39Speaker 4: He joins us every Monday. How does that make you feel?
- 15:44Speaker 4: I don't know how beating me up is going to
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- 15:55Speaker 4: that happened over the weekend on this Rally House Football
- 15:57Speaker 4: Monday that it made me sad? Did you guys watch
- 16:03Speaker 4: College Game Day at all on Saturday?
- 16:06Speaker 5: Yeah. I watched a little.
- 16:08Speaker 2: I don't watch the whole thing. I was kind of
- 16:10Speaker 2: in and out, but yeah, I was there.
- 16:11Speaker 5: I mean, do you watch the whole thing?
- 16:14Speaker 3: No, no.
- 16:14Speaker 4: I try and make sure I watch the kicking thing,
- 16:17Speaker 4: although that's getting a little crazy now. Like, McAfee's giving
- 16:19Speaker 4: away a million bucks.
- 16:20Speaker 7: For a kick.
- 16:21Speaker 4: There's too many do-overs.
- 16:22Speaker 5: There's too many do-overs.
- 16:23Speaker 4: Well, there's no do-over this time. It was one kick,
- 16:25Speaker 4: and the kid nailed it for a million dollars.
- 16:27Speaker 5: Last week, there was a do-over.
- 16:28Speaker 6: Yes.
- 16:28Speaker 4: But I looked this up. They said that McAfee pays
- 16:32Speaker 4: that out of his own pocket.
- 16:34Speaker 6: Really? Really?
- 16:36Speaker 4: Orlovsky and Herbstreet both said he pays it.
- 16:38Speaker 5: Oh, he's buying insurance on it. Insurance.
- 16:43Speaker 6: I mean, the kid had never kicked a ball before,
- 16:45Speaker 6: and he drilled a 40-yarder right down the middle.
- 16:46Speaker 4: He was a soccer player.
- 16:48Speaker 2: Bare feet on.
- 16:49Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Kid's name was Whitehead. I don't know.
- 16:51Speaker 5: You know what this calls for?
- 16:52Speaker 4: A Pablo Torre investigation.
- 16:55Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 16:55Speaker 6: No, this calls for, don't select a six-foot former soccer
- 17:00Speaker 6: player to kick the ball.
- 17:00Speaker 2: Get, like, Hold on a second. He's paying this out
- 17:04Speaker 2: of his own pocket?
- 17:05Speaker 4: I looked it up because I was curious. The kid
- 17:06Speaker 4: won a million dollars. I'm like, who's paying this money?
- 17:08Speaker 4: And I found two different articles from both Herbstreet and
- 17:11Speaker 4: Orlovsky that says McAfee pays it out of his own pocket.
- 17:14Speaker 6: Why wouldn't he be losing like $ 5 million a year
- 17:17Speaker 6: just on kids kicking it through the frigging uprights?
- 17:19Speaker 4: And I was like, maybe it's one thing when he
- 17:20Speaker 4: was doing like, they used to be like, what, 50
- 17:22Speaker 4: grand or $ 100, 000, which is still a ton of money.
- 17:25Speaker 4: But it's like, okay, maybe he's got that to just
- 17:27Speaker 4: kind of kick around for a fun little game. A
- 17:31Speaker 4: million dollars two weeks in a row. What are we
- 17:33Speaker 4: doing here?
- 17:34Speaker 2: How do they pick these guys? How do they pick
- 17:36Speaker 2: these kids to do it?
- 17:36Speaker 4: Said it's the first 300 people that show up. See,
- 17:38Speaker 4: I read this whole article. First 300 that show up,
- 17:41Speaker 4: and then they do a raffle of the first 300. Really?
- 17:44Speaker 4: So anyway, that's one thing. What made me sad, though,
- 17:48Speaker 4: Morgan Freeman was the guest picker. He's an Ole Miss guy.
- 17:51Speaker 4: I think he's an honorary graduate of Ole Miss. And
- 17:55Speaker 4: it's just one of those things. I've watched Morgan Freeman
- 17:58Speaker 4: in so many movies, so many different things. He sounded,
- 18:04Speaker 4: I know.
- 18:05Speaker 2: He's 89 years old, man.
- 18:06Speaker 4: He's like 90, I know. But it's just one of
- 18:08Speaker 4: those things, Moe, it's like you know this guy, and
- 18:10Speaker 4: then you just, I don't know if anybody else was
- 18:13Speaker 4: watching when he was making his picks or when he
- 18:15Speaker 4: was on the set with the guys. It's just, it was,
- 18:19Speaker 4: when I see him in movies, he doesn't sound that way,
- 18:22Speaker 4: is what I'm saying. So when I saw him just
- 18:25Speaker 4: in life, it was kind of like, took a while
- 18:29Speaker 4: for the gear to get going. It made me sad,
- 18:31Speaker 4: that was all. So I love Morgan Freeman. But I
- 18:34Speaker 4: looked it up. I was like, what is he? He's
- 18:36Speaker 4: probably like, what, 78, 80 years old? No, he's almost 90.
- 18:39Speaker 5: Have you seen him in Lioness?
- 18:41Speaker 6: No.
- 18:42Speaker 5: You don't watch Lioness?
- 18:43Speaker 4: I don't.
- 18:43Speaker 5: Was he by chance wearing, in this interview, because I
- 18:46Speaker 5: missed it, was he wearing a glove on his left hand?
- 18:50Speaker 2: I don't remember that.
- 18:50Speaker 5: Because in the movie, in the show Lioness, he never
- 18:54Speaker 5: exposes his left hand. He's wearing a glove on it,
- 18:56Speaker 5: which got me. Is there something going on with this?
- 18:58Speaker 3: Yes, he is.
- 18:59Speaker 4: Right here.
- 19:00Speaker 2: Okay.
- 19:00Speaker 4: He took a picture with Herb Street, and.
- 19:01Speaker 3: He's got it on.
- 19:04Speaker 5: What's happening with his hand?
- 19:05Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 19:08Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 19:08Speaker 4: I didn't even notice that.
- 19:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 19:11Speaker 4: Anyway, that was it. Did you guys not see it, though? No. Okay.
- 19:18Speaker 3: Well, I.
- 19:19Speaker 2: What happened?
- 19:21Speaker 6: I took a shower, and then I think it was
- 19:23Speaker 6: on when I was in the shower. Then I tried
- 19:24Speaker 6: to rewind it. My Fubo kept going back to the beginning,
- 19:27Speaker 6: and I just finally gave.
- 19:28Speaker 3: Up after a while.
- 19:28Speaker 4: Let me just say one thing. this is the response
- 19:32Speaker 4: so many times and stuff like this. When I was
- 19:33Speaker 4: talking about the McAfee kick, why do you care what
- 19:37Speaker 4: a guy does with his money?
- 19:38Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, I don't care about it.
- 19:41Speaker 4: It's just, why is it the first response from everybody
- 19:43Speaker 4: all the time? Oh, it's not your money. Okay, fine.
- 19:46Speaker 4: Can I just talk about how it's, just... I don't
- 19:49Speaker 4: know what McAfee gains out of this is all I'm asking.
- 19:51Speaker 5: Well, it's not only that. It's a lot of money.
- 19:53Speaker 2: Yeah!
- 19:55Speaker 5: That's two million already this season.
- 19:57Speaker 4: Yeah. And I'm just saying, if this guy is paying
- 20:02Speaker 4: out of his own pocket a million dollars a week,
- 20:06Speaker 4: my first thought is Is he really paying for all
- 20:09Speaker 4: of that himself? Secondly, financially, how can you afford to
- 20:15Speaker 4: do this?
- 20:17Speaker 5: Well, why don't you give people money?
- 20:19Speaker 4: But you know what I mean?
- 20:21Speaker 5: Seriously, why don't you provide funds for people for winning
- 20:25Speaker 5: contests on this show?
- 20:26Speaker 4: It's called people who run daycares. I ain't asking for
- 20:29Speaker 4: the world. I give a lot of people money.
- 20:33Speaker 5: Why don't you give people money?
- 20:36Speaker 2: That's a great question. I had some, well, you have money.
- 20:41Speaker 2: And I'm not.
- 20:41Speaker 8: I'm not.
- 20:42Speaker 4: But I want you to think about this, Vic. You know,
- 20:44Speaker 4: when Rocky does the behind the head shot.
- 20:47Speaker 1: Yes.
- 20:48Speaker 4: During Nuggets games. Imagine you had 50 G's on the
- 20:50Speaker 4: line out of your own pocket. Every time he did that.
- 20:54Speaker 4: And I asked you, what do you gain out of
- 20:56Speaker 4: this relationship that you have with this thing? And the
- 20:58Speaker 4: answer is, I don't know. It's a fun little TV thing.
- 21:01Speaker 4: That's the response. It's just fun television.
- 21:06Speaker 2: Are there any sponsors of it or anything like that?
- 21:09Speaker 5: Yes, Home Depot sponsors it.
- 21:10Speaker 4: They sponsor College Game Day.
- 21:13Speaker 5: Yeah, but they also share in the sponsorship of the
- 21:15Speaker 5: field goal. I saw it. So I wonder what kind
- 21:18Speaker 5: of deals are being made.
- 21:19Speaker 4: That's what I'm wondering, yeah.
- 21:21Speaker 5: Again, Pablo needs to investigate.
- 21:23Speaker 4: Pablo Torre, help us out, please.
- 21:25Speaker 6: So as we sit here on this Monday, and again tomorrow,
- 21:27Speaker 6: we'll talk a little bit more about things. Has everybody
- 21:30Speaker 6: kind of relaxed a little bit? Has everybody kind of
- 21:32Speaker 6: settled down? The Broncos defense made tackles.
- 21:35Speaker 5: You're 1-1.
- 21:36Speaker 2: They came to play.
- 21:37Speaker 5: You're 1-1. You won a game you're supposed to win
- 21:40Speaker 5: at home. You had to do it in comeback fashion.
- 21:42Speaker 5: But that's a good team you beat, correct?
- 21:45Speaker 3: It's a good team.
- 21:45Speaker 2: I think it is.
- 21:46Speaker 5: Ain't nothing to be ashamed of.
- 21:49Speaker 2: Ashamed, you should be happy. But you know what, Vic?
- 21:51Speaker 6: At the same time, let's not let them off the hook.
- 21:53Speaker 6: If you're a good team, too, on the home field,
- 21:56Speaker 6: that's what you should do. Yeah.
- 21:57Speaker 2: Okay, you should do that.
- 21:59Speaker 5: I think the biggest lesson for me through two weeks
- 22:03Speaker 5: isn't what the Broncos are doing. It's what's happening to
- 22:06Speaker 5: the rest of the division. The Raiders are 2-0, and
- 22:08Speaker 5: the Chargers are 0-2. What the hell is going on?
- 22:12Speaker 6: Well, and I've got to be honest with you. I
- 22:13Speaker 6: know we're going to get to more of this coming
- 22:15Speaker 6: up tomorrow. We'll wait for the game tonight, and then
- 22:16Speaker 6: we'll go around the league. But the Baltimore Ravens losing
- 22:22Speaker 6: to the Saints on the home field, that's a shocker
- 22:26Speaker 6: to me. The Ravens had themselves– A 17-10 lead going
- 22:31Speaker 6: into the fourth quarter, and they coughed it all up.
- 22:34Speaker 2: Crazy.
- 22:35Speaker 4: I just thought about something because the texter said this,
- 22:37Speaker 4: and it's really funny. It says, McAfee gives him the
- 22:44Speaker 4: semi-pro check and skips town. Remember when the dude made
- 22:49Speaker 4: the moon ball shot for $ 10, 000? The guy goes, relax, Jackie,
- 22:54Speaker 4: the beer company will pay him. Not really a sponsor.
- 22:57Speaker 4: It just sounded professional. Anyway. Have I calmed down? Yeah,
- 23:04Speaker 4: of course. You know, this is a much different vibe
- 23:07Speaker 4: if you're going into the Rams game at 0-2. Like,
- 23:10Speaker 4: you are in some real trouble.
- 23:13Speaker 2: That's not a Fluss Flynn. That is a must win.
- 23:15Speaker 4: Like, this, to me, I'm going to say it again.
- 23:19Speaker 4: First six weeks, keep your head above water. Keep yourself
- 23:23Speaker 4: at 500. As long as you can do that, you're fine.
- 23:29Speaker 4: The way the Broncos won, here's what's funny. I'm not
- 23:33Speaker 4: freaking about it because I've watched it so many times.
- 23:36Speaker 4: It's kind of expected. In fact, against the Chiefs, the
- 23:41Speaker 4: shocking thing about the Chiefs game is that that didn't happen.
- 23:45Speaker 4: That that was a one-score game late and they didn't
- 23:50Speaker 4: make that furious comeback like they usually do. This is,
- 23:55Speaker 4: hey man, you ever watched a big stupid action movie?
- 24:00Speaker 4: Like if I need to go to sleep or something
- 24:02Speaker 4: like that, I watch, oh, what's his name?
- 24:03Speaker 2: Mission Impossible or something?
- 24:04Speaker 4: Like Gerard Butler movies. They're all like that. Whether it's
- 24:07Speaker 4: the White House movies that he's in or whatever, right?
- 24:10Speaker 4: He's just a big butt kicking guy who always wins
- 24:13Speaker 4: at the very end. that's what Broncos games feel like.
- 24:16Speaker 4: It's like the game starts and then, Oh, he looks
- 24:19Speaker 4: like he's in some trouble. I bet at the end though,
- 24:21Speaker 4: he comes out on top. Like every single Broncos game
- 24:24Speaker 4: has felt that way. So the result of it isn't shocking.
- 24:27Speaker 4: I guess I'm the only thing I'm disappointed by is
- 24:31Speaker 4: I thought maybe this year would look a little bit
- 24:33Speaker 4: different offensively early in games. And through two weeks, he
- 24:36Speaker 4: kind of gotten the same thing.
- 24:38Speaker 6: I'm looking at the Rams tonight. I'll have a keen
- 24:40Speaker 6: eye on that game. Vic, I want to kind of
- 24:41Speaker 6: get an idea of what the Rams are all about.
- 24:44Speaker 6: And partly because they got blown out down under by
- 24:47Speaker 6: the 49ers.
- 24:49Speaker 2: But when you look at that division, I.
- 24:52Speaker 6: Mean, I know the Broncos are sitting there at 1-1,
- 24:54Speaker 6: and the Chiefs are 2-0, and the Raiders are 2-0,
- 24:57Speaker 6: but nobody thinks they're real. I'm looking at the NFC West.
- 25:02Speaker 6: Seattle's 2-0, and they just beat the snot out of Miami. No,
- 25:05Speaker 6: was it Miami yesterday?
- 25:06Speaker 8: Arizona.
- 25:06Speaker 1: Arizona.
- 25:07Speaker 4: Beat the snot out of Arizona. Drew Locke threw three
- 25:09Speaker 4: touchdown passes.
- 25:10Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 25:10Speaker 2: They're 2-0.
- 25:12Speaker 6: The 49ers beat the snot out of Miami. They're 2-0.
- 25:15Speaker 6: Those are two really good teams. If you're the LA Rams,
- 25:17Speaker 6: you cannot afford to start the season 0-2. You simply
- 25:21Speaker 6: can't do it.
- 25:22Speaker 4: Two things that were surprising. Then they'll have a Flust
- 25:24Speaker 4: Flynn next Sunday here in our joint. I told you
- 25:27Speaker 4: about this before the season started. I said, keep an
- 25:30Speaker 4: eye on the Saints. They're like a really sneaky team.
- 25:33Speaker 4: Tyler Shuck takes over at the end of last year.
- 25:35Speaker 4: They start winning football games. The Saints should have beaten
- 25:38Speaker 4: Detroit in the first week of the season. They go
- 25:41Speaker 4: into Baltimore... put up 15 in the fourth quarter and
- 25:44Speaker 4: beat the Ravens. And I don't know what the Saints
- 25:48Speaker 4: are going to be, but I don't think anybody wants
- 25:51Speaker 4: to play the Saints. They're tough. They're a tough football team,
- 25:55Speaker 4: good defensively. And there's two quarterbacks that are really surprising
- 25:59Speaker 4: me through two weeks. Tyler Shuck is one of them. Just,
- 26:03Speaker 4: are you guys aware of the numbers that Bryce Young
- 26:05Speaker 4: has put up in the first two weeks?
- 26:07Speaker 2: Yes.
- 26:08Speaker 4: Bryce Young, the guy that we thought, oh, number one
- 26:11Speaker 4: overall pick, looks like he's going to flutter out and fail.
- 26:13Speaker 5: He's seen the field now.
- 26:15Speaker 4: Bryce Young has 648 yards and six touchdowns in two weeks.
- 26:22Speaker 4: If he's figured things out, think about this. The NFC
- 26:24Speaker 4: South was terrible last year. The Panthers made the playoffs
- 26:27Speaker 4: with an 8-9 record. The Bucs are 0-2 after losing
- 26:31Speaker 4: to Cleveland.
- 26:32Speaker 5: I think the Bucs might be trash and Baker got paid.
- 26:37Speaker 5: Baker already got paid. This is the worst-case scenario for
- 26:41Speaker 5: Tampa Bay. Think about it. We talked about it. You
- 26:44Speaker 5: pay them or not. They paid them, and now they're 0-2,
- 26:47Speaker 5: and they lost to Cleveland at home.
- 26:51Speaker 4: I got to say one other thing real quick because
- 26:52Speaker 4: nobody's going to care about this Panthers and Falcons game,
- 26:54Speaker 4: but as somebody who watched a little bit of that game,
- 26:56Speaker 4: let me tell you something right now. We have talked
- 26:59Speaker 4: about how embarrassing the Dolphins are, and they are embarrassing.
- 27:02Speaker 4: We've talked about the Browns. Despite the fact that they win,
- 27:05Speaker 4: just a mess, right? The Atlanta Falcons, who came into
- 27:11Speaker 4: this season with Tua and Michael Penix Jr., both are out.
- 27:17Speaker 4: They had to start Cooper Rush. Cooper Rush was so bad,
- 27:21Speaker 4: they put in a quarterback. Tell me if you've heard
- 27:23Speaker 4: this name in your life. They put in a quarterback
- 27:27Speaker 4: because Cooper Rush was so bad, named Jack Strand.
- 27:30Speaker 2: I've heard the name.
- 27:34Speaker 4: Jack Strand.
- 27:34Speaker 2: Let me try to guess where he went to college.
- 27:37Speaker 4: Oh, gosh.
- 27:37Speaker 2: I'd have to think about it.
- 27:38Speaker 4: Mosher, don't you lie to me and say you've heard
- 27:41Speaker 4: of Jack Strand.
- 27:41Speaker 5: This is Mosher cheating again.
- 27:43Speaker 6: I did when I was going through my Zach Wilson
- 27:46Speaker 6: stuff in New Orleans and looking through the division.
- 27:49Speaker 4: I'm looking at the rosters of all these teams.
- 27:51Speaker 2: I've heard of the guy.
- 27:52Speaker 4: You know Jack Strand who went to Minnesota Moorhead.
- 27:54Speaker 2: Yeah, that's him. That's the guy.
- 27:58Speaker 5: Look at this guy.
- 27:59Speaker 4: Jack Strand comes in his first throw. He throws a pick.
- 28:01Speaker 3: Of course he does.
- 28:02Speaker 5: I'm just like, oh my God.
- 28:05Speaker 4: How is it this bad? Pick six.
- 28:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 28:09Speaker 3: Pick six.
- 28:11Speaker 4: He also goes out and loses a fumble a couple
- 28:15Speaker 4: drives afterwards.
- 28:17Speaker 2: We can say.
- 28:17Speaker 6: So who's in between the Dolphins or the Falcons on
- 28:19Speaker 6: who's going to win a game first?
- 28:22Speaker 4: I think the Falcons probably are going to win a
- 28:25Speaker 4: game first, assuming that I don't know when Penix is
- 28:28Speaker 4: going to be healthy. I don't know when Tua is
- 28:29Speaker 4: going to be healthy, but it's going to be better
- 28:31Speaker 4: than whatever the hell they got going on right now.
- 28:35Speaker 2: You'd think it'd have to be, but who knows?
- 28:38Speaker 4: Mosher, don't tell me you know Jack Strand.
- 28:39Speaker 6: I don't know Jack Strand. I told you I just
- 28:41Speaker 6: heard the name before. I have no idea who the
- 28:43Speaker 6: kid is.
- 28:43Speaker 5: It's a very common name.
- 28:48Speaker 4: Strand? Yeah.
- 28:50Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of Strands in Minnesota.
- 28:52Speaker 4: Oh, is there? Yeah. Especially Minnesota Morehouse?
- 28:54Speaker 8: Uh-huh.
- 28:56Speaker 4: Two other things just real quick, and we'll go through
- 28:58Speaker 4: the league tomorrow. All right, got it, Mo. The Eagles
- 29:02Speaker 4: should have lost that game to the Titans, and the
- 29:04Speaker 4: Titans allowed them to come back and win, which it
- 29:06Speaker 4: was two different games. Late, I don't even know if
- 29:11Speaker 4: you want to call it heroics, late panic that resulted
- 29:14Speaker 4: in a win. Eagles were one of them. Did you
- 29:16Speaker 4: guys see the way that the Packers and Jets came in?
- 29:19Speaker 2: Yes, I did see the way that game ended.
- 29:22Speaker 6: And then again, you're talking about a Jets team.
- 29:26Speaker 2: Dude, they had that game.
- 29:28Speaker 5: They had it.
- 29:28Speaker 2: They had that game.
- 29:30Speaker 4: So there's 19 seconds left. It's fourth down. Aaron Glenn
- 29:34Speaker 4: doesn't call a timeout.
- 29:36Speaker 2: Don't know why.
- 29:37Speaker 4: He tried to explain it after the game. It was
- 29:39Speaker 4: a terrible explanation. But when you're a football team that
- 29:44Speaker 4: is probably not great, and Mojai told you, keep an
- 29:50Speaker 4: eye on the Jets. I think they could be interesting
- 29:52Speaker 4: this year, is what I said. They won their first game.
- 29:55Speaker 4: Should have won that.
- 29:55Speaker 2: Doing dumb things is also interesting.
- 29:58Speaker 6: I mean, it's not boring, but when you watch teams
- 30:00Speaker 6: do dumb things, hey, like that Vandy game against the
- 30:04Speaker 6: NC State.
- 30:04Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Interesting. Run back in the end zone.
- 30:08Speaker 4: But out of all the things that happened in the
- 30:10Speaker 4: first two weeks of the season, outside of obviously Broncos headlines,
- 30:14Speaker 4: what storyline in the NFL do you think has caught
- 30:17Speaker 4: you most? All these teams for two weeks of the season.
- 30:20Speaker 2: What storyline?
- 30:21Speaker 4: Yeah. What thing has caught you most?
- 30:23Speaker 5: For me, and this is more because it's close to
- 30:26Speaker 5: the Denver Broncos situation, I can't believe how good Kenneth
- 30:29Speaker 5: Walker is. I can't believe what a great acquisition that
- 30:33Speaker 5: was for Kansas City. I can't believe how that player
- 30:37Speaker 5: has changed that team and breathed life back into that
- 30:39Speaker 5: team and made them even more dangerous than they were before.
- 30:42Speaker 5: I think Kenneth Walker, the way he's playing through two games,
- 30:45Speaker 5: he's playing like the best running back in football.
- 30:49Speaker 4: I think it's how bad the Chargers are, right?
- 30:51Speaker 2: That too.
- 30:52Speaker 5: And both affect the Broncos, both in the division?
- 30:56Speaker 4: The fact that the Chargers, look, man, the Chargers are
- 30:59Speaker 4: 0-2 to start the year. It's a terrible place to be,
- 31:03Speaker 4: but it's not the worst place in the world. Until
- 31:05Speaker 4: you realize they lost game one to Arizona. Both these games,
- 31:11Speaker 4: the exact same score, by the way. Two games in
- 31:13Speaker 4: a row, they lost 26-14. Only put up 14 points
- 31:16Speaker 4: in each of the first two games. But you lose
- 31:19Speaker 4: to Arizona, and we were wondering, well, maybe Arizona's good.
- 31:22Speaker 4: Seattle with a backup quarterback marched Arizona and won by
- 31:24Speaker 4: 24 points.
- 31:25Speaker 3: Okay?
- 31:26Speaker 4: Their next game's against the Raiders. I know the Raiders
- 31:30Speaker 4: are 2-0 down.
- 31:30Speaker 2: They're going 0-7.
- 31:35Speaker 4: But what the hell is going on there? And you
- 31:38Speaker 4: can't even really blame it on injuries. They've had some.
- 31:41Speaker 4: McConkie played in that game. They lost their center, but
- 31:44Speaker 4: they got both of their tackles right now. Omari and
- 31:47Speaker 4: Hampton almost ran for 100 yards in that game. It's
- 31:50Speaker 4: Justin Herbert turning the ball over.
- 31:53Speaker 2: I told you, dude.
- 31:55Speaker 6: The kid's head is not on straight. His head is
- 32:00Speaker 6: not on his body right now.
- 32:02Speaker 4: At all.
- 32:03Speaker 2: Hey, Vic, dig this.
- 32:03Speaker 5: You ready?
- 32:04Speaker 2: They're 0-2, the Chargers. You want to talk about dog meat?
- 32:07Speaker 5: That's your team.
- 32:08Speaker 2: They're going to Buffalo next week.
- 32:10Speaker 5: Loss.
- 32:12Speaker 2: Then following week, they're going to Seattle. Loss. Then they're
- 32:16Speaker 2: home against the Broncos.
- 32:18Speaker 5: Loss.
- 32:19Speaker 6: Loss.
- 32:19Speaker 2: Then at Kansas City. Loss. Loss.
- 32:23Speaker 6: I thought the Broncos had a tough start to the season.
- 32:26Speaker 2: Then at least they get a home game at the Rams.
- 32:29Speaker 1: Loss.
- 32:29Speaker 4: Their start to the season wasn't tough. They lost to
- 32:32Speaker 4: the Cardinals and the Raiders.
- 32:33Speaker 5: Now it's tough.
- 32:35Speaker 6: Their first chance at a win, in my opinion, is
- 32:37Speaker 6: against the Texans at home in week eight.
- 32:40Speaker 5: Loss.
- 32:42Speaker 6: On the road at Baltimore. I think that's a loss.
- 32:44Speaker 6: Home against the Jets week 10.
- 32:46Speaker 2: There you go. You're a 1-10 football team.
- 32:48Speaker 5: You know what's crazy? There's really no excuse. I'm looking.
- 32:51Speaker 5: Mario and Hampton had 23 carries, 92 yards. It's pretty
- 32:54Speaker 5: good production. Yeah. That should mean that your offense has
- 32:57Speaker 5: some balance. There's no excuse.
- 33:00Speaker 6: None.
- 33:00Speaker 4: I don't get it, man. Oh, my goodness. Guys, they
- 33:09Speaker 4: had six fumbles in that game. Sure did. Six.
- 33:14Speaker 6: Yep.
- 33:14Speaker 4: Herbert alone had three.
- 33:15Speaker 3: No.
- 33:16Speaker 4: Six that they put on the turf. They only lost
- 33:18Speaker 4: one of them. But they put on the turf six
- 33:21Speaker 4: different times?
- 33:23Speaker 5: I don't like when people call fumbles fumbles that they
- 33:26Speaker 5: don't lose. Like a fumble to me means you lost it.
- 33:34Speaker 5: That would be like saying interception, but we didn't lose it.
- 33:36Speaker 2: We dropped it.
- 33:38Speaker 5: I want you to use a new term.
- 33:40Speaker 4: What would you call when the ball is in your
- 33:43Speaker 4: hands and then goes on the turf?
- 33:45Speaker 2: Mix-up.
- 33:49Speaker 4: Just a mix-up?
- 33:49Speaker 2: Is that just a mix-up?
- 33:52Speaker 4: All right, I'm sorry, Vic. They had five mix-ups with
- 33:56Speaker 4: one fumble lost.
- 33:57Speaker 5: The connotation of a fumble is you gave it away.
- 34:01Speaker 2: Listen, Herbert threw two picks.
- 34:03Speaker 4: One of them was not on him.
- 34:04Speaker 6: One of them was on the receiver, but, I mean,
- 34:07Speaker 6: he threw two picks. They're a mess. McDaniel's not doing
- 34:12Speaker 6: jack squat there. Harbaugh, by the way, you realize that
- 34:14Speaker 6: Jim Harbaugh, as a head coach, has never started any
- 34:17Speaker 6: season anywhere 0-2, ever.
- 34:20Speaker 2: Just be accurate.
- 34:21Speaker 4: I apologize. From now on, I will refer to those
- 34:25Speaker 4: as mix-ups. Today, I do not apologize.
- 34:29Speaker 3: Back after this.
- 34:30Speaker 2: Bills on film, two minutes later.
- 34:36Speaker 4: Hey, can I do one thing real quick? Shout out
- 34:38Speaker 4: to T.
- 34:39Speaker 3: Willie.
- 34:39Speaker 4: Happy birthday to Papa K.
- 34:41Speaker 5: Oh, nice. I bet he regrets having you.
- 34:49Speaker 3: Why?
- 34:50Speaker 2: I'll say, I'll say, you know, let me, let me,
- 34:52Speaker 2: let me take that back. My beautiful baby boy. I
- 34:54Speaker 2: think it's... Has he ever once said that to you?
- 34:56Speaker 4: He has not, no. T.
- 34:58Speaker 7: Willie?
- 34:58Speaker 4: I think it's probably more Nolan, but I'll... I'll say
- 35:03Speaker 4: both of you. What, the favorite son?
- 35:04Speaker 2: The both of yous.
- 35:05Speaker 4: For what?
- 35:06Speaker 2: No, for the regret.
- 35:08Speaker 5: Oh.
- 35:08Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 35:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 35:09Speaker 2: But you'll get the Jets this week, right?
- 35:11Speaker 4: Yeah, it will be.
- 35:14Speaker 2: Okay.
- 35:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 35:15Speaker 5: Hey, can I say something? We're two weeks in. And
- 35:19Speaker 5: I know that this sounds.
- 35:20Speaker 4: My beautiful baby dad.
- 35:23Speaker 5: This is a ridiculous thing to say just two games
- 35:26Speaker 5: into a season. But it feels this way. It isn't
- 35:29Speaker 5: this way, it just feels this way. Let me start
- 35:32Speaker 5: by saying I was wrong. I believed going into the
- 35:36Speaker 5: season that Cortland Sutton would still remain the number one
- 35:39Speaker 5: receiver for the Denver Broncos. But after two games, and
- 35:42Speaker 5: where I see this going, I think it's going to
- 35:44Speaker 5: be Jalen Waddell.
- 35:47Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what's happening there.
- 35:49Speaker 6: If he continues to get himself wide open at the
- 35:52Speaker 6: goal line, then yes.
- 35:54Speaker 5: And I don't know if it's them just game-planning Waddell
- 35:56Speaker 5: better or not.
- 35:58Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 35:59Speaker 5: I know that Cortland... made his presence felt on that
- 36:03Speaker 5: one drive, late to turn it into a 2013 game.
- 36:08Speaker 5: Boda Cortland, eight yards first down. Then Boda Ingram, great catch.
- 36:13Speaker 5: Boda Sutton, which drew the P.I. on Travis Hunter. That
- 36:16Speaker 5: was the big play because it also led to a
- 36:19Speaker 5: penalty on the coaching staff for crying about it, and
- 36:22Speaker 5: that's what set up the touchdown. So Sutton was huge
- 36:25Speaker 5: on that drive. But other than that, not so much.
- 36:30Speaker 4: Waddle had more targets in that game than Sutton has
- 36:32Speaker 4: in two games. Waddle was targeted 10 times against the
- 36:37Speaker 4: Jags and Sutton's had nine combined in the first two weeks.
- 36:42Speaker 4: That's going to change. He's going to get the ball more,
- 36:46Speaker 4: but it is pretty striking. He's got five catches for
- 36:48Speaker 4: 36 yards in the first two weeks. And I don't,
- 36:54Speaker 4: I'm not sure what to make of that yet. Because
- 36:57Speaker 4: I do think that's going to turn. But it's very
- 37:00Speaker 4: clear Jalen Waddell is the guy you want to look
- 37:04Speaker 4: to first. Because he's a playmaker. And raw speed is
- 37:13Speaker 4: something that is unteachable. You have that or you don't.
- 37:16Speaker 4: And Waddell is faster than almost anybody that's on a
- 37:19Speaker 4: football field whenever he steps on it. You want to
- 37:21Speaker 4: get the ball in that guy's hands. The thing moving
- 37:25Speaker 4: forward is.
- 37:29Speaker 2: J.K.
- 37:30Speaker 4: Dobbins, if he's got a hamstring injury, he is not
- 37:33Speaker 4: going to play next week, almost assuredly, right?
- 37:36Speaker 5: I mean, they said that there's a possibility he goes
- 37:40Speaker 5: Sunday night, but if you got a hammy, one week
- 37:43Speaker 5: ain't going to do it.
- 37:44Speaker 3: No way.
- 37:46Speaker 6: So are you asking Jonah Coleman now to be the
- 37:49Speaker 6: guy to carry the rock?
- 37:50Speaker 4: Well, here's what I'm wondering.
- 37:53Speaker 5: R.J.
- 37:53Speaker 4: Harvey also was inactive last week. I don't know how
- 37:56Speaker 4: long R.J. Harvey is going to be out. If they're
- 38:00Speaker 4: both active, who do you think gets the carries? Would
- 38:04Speaker 4: it be Coleman or would it be RJ Harvey?
- 38:06Speaker 2: I mean, who can go between the tackles more?
- 38:10Speaker 4: I think that would be Jonah Coleman.
- 38:11Speaker 2: So why?
- 38:12Speaker 6: You heard what Ryan just said. Ryan said, look, if
- 38:14Speaker 6: both those guys are out, and even if they're not,
- 38:18Speaker 6: he's like, maybe just because Coleman's not the tallest guy
- 38:21Speaker 6: in the world, right?
- 38:22Speaker 4: He's a little bowling ball.
- 38:23Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 38:24Speaker 4: Maybe just run a lot more jet sweeps. Try to
- 38:26Speaker 4: pick up yards that way. I am very intrigued by
- 38:30Speaker 4: Jonah Coleman. I was all training camp. Nothing from what
- 38:35Speaker 4: I saw when he took over for J.K. Dobbins late
- 38:37Speaker 4: in that game has changed my mind on that at all.
- 38:39Speaker 4: In fact, it's got me more excited about it. He
- 38:41Speaker 4: is just somebody that seems to make a play happen
- 38:44Speaker 4: when you put the ball in his hands. And, Vic,
- 38:47Speaker 4: you mentioned it. The decision to slide, I just saw
- 38:51Speaker 4: a quote from him, too. See if I can dig
- 38:54Speaker 4: it up again.
- 38:54Speaker 5: That's so wise.
- 38:56Speaker 4: But they said, why didn't you try and go for
- 38:58Speaker 4: the touchdown? And he said, because it's not about me,
- 39:01Speaker 4: it's about the team.
- 39:03Speaker 2: And you know what?
- 39:03Speaker 6: I hate to say it, but as he's running, Vic,
- 39:06Speaker 6: and I see him go down, I'm like, I didn't
- 39:08Speaker 6: think he would do that.
- 39:10Speaker 4: But what an incredibly smart, heady play.
- 39:14Speaker 5: I didn't hear the post-game interview. Was it brought up
- 39:16Speaker 5: in the huddle, maybe? Was he reminded that Bach is
- 39:20Speaker 5: our friend at this point? I didn't hear that.
- 39:22Speaker 4: I just think he knows. And if I have to
- 39:23Speaker 4: point to one thing that I think that to me,
- 39:26Speaker 4: for my money, the best thing the Denver Broncos did yesterday,
- 39:31Speaker 4: without question, you killed the team that you were playing
- 39:36Speaker 4: last drive of the game. When you have the ball
- 39:38Speaker 4: with about five minutes left, if you don't pick up
- 39:41Speaker 4: first downs, if you don't move the chains, if you
- 39:43Speaker 4: don't keep the clock rolling, well, guess what? Give the
- 39:45Speaker 4: ball back to an offense that put up 32 points
- 39:48Speaker 4: per game over the last 12. with a chance to
- 39:51Speaker 4: score a touchdown to tie it, you had the dagger drive.
- 39:55Speaker 4: You had the one where you burned four minutes and
- 39:58Speaker 4: 40 seconds off the clock, took a knee, and went home.
- 40:01Speaker 6: But did you see how that game, when you start
- 40:03Speaker 6: to look at the end of that game, the Broncos
- 40:07Speaker 6: started to move the ball against the Jags, and they
- 40:09Speaker 6: started to get on their heels, and they're like, oh, man, oh, boy,
- 40:12Speaker 6: now what do we do, blah, blah, blah. The pass
- 40:14Speaker 6: to Jalen Waddell, is that the one down the right-hand side?
- 40:19Speaker 6: where he was wide open by himself. And as you
- 40:23Speaker 6: look at the frame, Vic, there's not a Jaguar in
- 40:25Speaker 6: the picture.
- 40:26Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody fell on the Jacksonville side.
- 40:28Speaker 2: Oh, is that what it was?
- 40:28Speaker 5: Yeah, the DB fell.
- 40:29Speaker 6: And I'm like, that's got to be the worst blown
- 40:32Speaker 6: coverage I've seen in a long time. Okay, I didn't
- 40:34Speaker 6: know that somebody fell down. Still blown coverage. But yeah,
- 40:38Speaker 6: you drove the dagger into them, Brett.
- 40:40Speaker 5: The other observation.
- 40:41Speaker 2: I mean, you go.
- 40:41Speaker 4: Three and out there, you're probably a little nervous.
- 40:45Speaker 5: One other observation about the game. I thought defensively Zach
- 40:48Speaker 5: Allen was a monster.
- 40:49Speaker 2: Dude, he was awesome.
- 40:50Speaker 3: Amazing.
- 40:51Speaker 5: He was a monster. And I thought Riley Moss had
- 40:53Speaker 5: a great, not good game, a great game. He was
- 40:56Speaker 5: in position to make plays all day. He made one pick,
- 41:01Speaker 5: and he could have had two.
- 41:02Speaker 2: How did Trevor Lawrence not see him?
- 41:04Speaker 5: I think he was trying to throw back shoulder and
- 41:06Speaker 5: just missed.
- 41:07Speaker 4: I don't think the back shoulder was even there. And
- 41:10Speaker 4: he missed short.
- 41:12Speaker 6: I mean, if anything, he missed short because Moss was–
- 41:16Speaker 6: Literally a yard and a half away on the inside.
- 41:19Speaker 4: I cannot believe it. I mean, I'll take it, but
- 41:21Speaker 4: I cannot believe it. The only problem, or I guess
- 41:23Speaker 4: thing you could point to with Moss, is that he
- 41:25Speaker 4: did have that illegal contact that negated the strip sack
- 41:27Speaker 4: from Benito. Yeah, it was kind of horse feathers, though.
- 41:30Speaker 2: I thought it was a bit ticky-tack, schmicky-schmack.
- 41:36Speaker 3: I thought.
- 41:37Speaker 5: But his, you know, when you play as much man
- 41:39Speaker 5: as the Broncos play, you better make sure that. You
- 41:44Speaker 5: better have your technique down. And I thought technique-wise, he
- 41:47Speaker 5: was incredible. He was really good yesterday.
- 41:49Speaker 4: Dude, how about... Dude, this is how amazing this is.
- 41:52Speaker 4: I can't believe I haven't brought this up yet. One
- 41:55Speaker 4: of my favorite plays of the game. Broncos on defense.
- 42:00Speaker 4: Jags are taking a shot. I think it was deep
- 42:04Speaker 4: left sideline. Sertan is so perfectly in coverage.
- 42:11Speaker 2: So perfectly.
- 42:12Speaker 4: Perfectly stride for stride with him. When he turns around,
- 42:16Speaker 4: he sees the receiver's hands go up. When he turns
- 42:18Speaker 4: around to locate the ball, the ball hits him in
- 42:20Speaker 4: his face mask, which was perfectly in the chest of
- 42:23Speaker 4: the wide receiver. The ball was thrown perfectly, but because
- 42:27Speaker 4: Pat Sertan was almost like a baby Bjorn in positioning,
- 42:34Speaker 4: in coverage, it hit him in the face.
- 42:36Speaker 5: That was Jacksonville's last drive of the game. That came
- 42:38Speaker 5: to play right after The near pick by Riley Moss.
- 42:41Speaker 5: Those were two incredible plays made by each of the
- 42:44Speaker 5: Broncos' corners there.
- 42:45Speaker 6: Maybe from now on, wide receivers in the league need
- 42:50Speaker 6: to practice with their babies in a Bjorn in the
- 42:51Speaker 6: front of their chest.
- 42:52Speaker 2: And you tell the quarterback, hit the baby.
- 42:54Speaker 5: See, what's crazy is that.
- 42:55Speaker 4: Drill it right at the baby.
- 42:57Speaker 5: These defensive backs in the passing game, they played great
- 43:00Speaker 5: against Mahomes, too. They just couldn't tackle. But pass defending.
- 43:03Speaker 4: No, they were awesome. Great.
- 43:04Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 43:04Speaker 5: That's two straight weeks of great pass defending.
- 43:07Speaker 2: Hey, did you see that Puka Nakua may not go tonight?
- 43:11Speaker 4: What does he have?
- 43:16Speaker 2: Stuff.
- 43:18Speaker 3: A thing.
- 43:20Speaker 4: I think this is fair to say. I want the
- 43:23Speaker 4: Rams to win tonight. I don't need an 0-2 Rams
- 43:27Speaker 4: team coming to Denver next weekend all pissed about how
- 43:29Speaker 4: they started the year.
- 43:30Speaker 5: I always look at the game the exact same way.
- 43:33Speaker 2: He's got a hip. He's got a hip.
- 43:38Speaker 4: I need the Rams to go out and play really well.
- 43:43Speaker 4: so that we don't have the reigning MVP, Aaron Donald,
- 43:48Speaker 4: who said, didn't he say he was going to go tonight?
- 43:50Speaker 3: I think he is.
- 43:51Speaker 4: That this is going to be his debut. I don't
- 43:53Speaker 4: need those guys. I don't need Aaron Donald all mad
- 43:55Speaker 4: that he came out of retirement for a team that
- 43:57Speaker 4: starts the year 0-2, and now he needs to prove
- 43:59Speaker 4: a point. I need the Rams to do the same
- 44:02Speaker 4: thing we're doing today, which is like, okay, we're 1-1,
- 44:06Speaker 4: everything's fine.
- 44:07Speaker 6: Because he'll be doing one of these two games.
- 44:10Speaker 2: To the Broncos interior line like this. I'll be there
- 44:15Speaker 2: in 10 minutes.
- 44:16Speaker 4: You better start stretching.
- 44:17Speaker 2: I'm going to wear you out. That's right. I'll be
- 44:19Speaker 2: there in 10 minutes. You better start stretching.
- 44:21Speaker 4: I don't need the Rams to be that. By the way.
- 44:25Speaker 4: If you guys missed it, this was Bo Nix in
- 44:28Speaker 4: a walk-off interview with Evan Washburn.
- 44:29Speaker 8: Bo, congratulations on the win. What changed in that third
- 44:33Speaker 8: quarter where you guys took over this one?
- 44:35Speaker 9: Well, we just stuck to the plan. And I thought
- 44:37Speaker 9: we did a great job in the first half. We
- 44:39Speaker 9: just had two red zone drives that didn't end in touchdowns.
- 44:42Speaker 9: Those ended in touchdowns in the second half, and we
- 44:45Speaker 9: played just a complete game of ball. We didn't hurt
- 44:48Speaker 9: ourselves as much in the second half, and we didn't
- 44:50Speaker 9: have as many self-inflicted wounds.
- 44:52Speaker 2: And so we just went out there.
- 44:53Speaker 9: And executed at a high level, and coaches just continued.
- 44:56Speaker 4: To put the ball in our hands, and we just
- 44:57Speaker 4: made plays.
- 44:58Speaker 8: You mentioned coaches and quarterbacks. You know what comes with
- 45:01Speaker 8: these positions, the heat from the outside this week. It
- 45:04Speaker 8: was pretty immense after that Monday night loss. What do
- 45:06Speaker 8: you appreciate most about what Davis Webb did in leading
- 45:08Speaker 8: this group?
- 45:09Speaker 9: Well, honestly, I didn't really hear much of it. That's
- 45:12Speaker 9: for people that listen. That's for people that listen to it. But,
- 45:18Speaker 9: you know, it's either crisis or carnival. And I want
- 45:21Speaker 9: much else to talk about, I guess. So we just
- 45:23Speaker 9: responded in the right way. And we just we knew
- 45:26Speaker 9: we were fine. We weren't going to panic. And, you know,
- 45:29Speaker 9: we had a great home.
- 45:30Speaker 3: Opening win.
- 45:31Speaker 4: We're going to rip Bo Nix off.
- 45:33Speaker 2: You know why?
- 45:34Speaker 4: Crisis or Carnival is great.
- 45:36Speaker 6: It's a great line, but that's really what they have
- 45:38Speaker 6: been offensively the last year.
- 45:39Speaker 2: It's either Crisis or Carnival.
- 45:41Speaker 4: That's pretty much it.
- 45:43Speaker 2: That's pretty much it.
- 45:44Speaker 6: So we're going to go and determine every week how
- 45:48Speaker 6: much was Crisis and how much was Carnival.
- 45:49Speaker 4: Do you know what it sounds like, by the way,
- 45:51Speaker 4: when Garrett Bowles runs up to you in the middle
- 45:52Speaker 4: of an interview and scares the guy holding the microphone?
- 45:55Speaker 3: Get out!
- 45:56Speaker 2: Go to the door! Super good.
- 46:02Speaker 4: Hang on, do your Garrett Bowles again?
- 46:03Speaker 5: I mean, he's got that deep, penetrating voice.
- 46:10Speaker 4: I found out you can do an impression. You did
- 46:11Speaker 4: it on an accident, but you can do it. Your
- 46:14Speaker 4: impression is the alien in Men in Black at the
- 46:19Speaker 4: beginning of the movie. And that is, I believe that actor...
- 46:31Speaker 4: is Private Pyle. A full metal jacket.
- 46:33Speaker 2: You're exactly right.
- 46:34Speaker 3: He is.
- 46:35Speaker 4: Nelly, fact checker, please.
- 46:38Speaker 1: Nelly monitors the mistakes in today's Fact Checker. Fact Checker.
- 46:44Speaker 2: Presented by Backus & Shanker.
- 46:46Speaker 1: Serious lawyers for the seriously injured.
- 46:49Speaker 7: I saw a stat here that kind of puts in
- 46:50Speaker 7: perspective how bad Mosher's Chargers have been so far. And
- 46:53Speaker 7: forgive me, this is.
- 46:54Speaker 2: They are not my Chargers, you idiots.
- 46:55Speaker 7: This is a bit of an ESPN stat, but stick
- 46:58Speaker 7: with me here, okay? According to OptiStats, the Chargers... are
- 47:03Speaker 7: the second team in NFL history to lose back-to-back games
- 47:08Speaker 7: by double digits, both games at home, coming against teams
- 47:14Speaker 7: that had a sub-200 win percentage the previous season. The
- 47:18Speaker 7: only other team to do that was the 1926 Racine Tornadoes,
- 47:23Speaker 7: who played one more game and then folded as a franchise.
- 47:26Speaker 6: The Chargers should probably do that because their quarterback has
- 47:29Speaker 6: a major malfunction.
- 47:32Speaker 2: Big time.
- 47:32Speaker 4: When you were a kid and you were watching the Tornadoes,
- 47:35Speaker 4: what kind of football team were they?
- 47:37Speaker 3: They sucked.
- 47:38Speaker 2: What was their style?
- 47:39Speaker 3: They were.
- 47:40Speaker 6: Three yards in a cloud of dust?
- 47:42Speaker 2: No, they were a spread offense.
- 47:43Speaker 4: Oh, a spread offense? A run and shoot?
- 47:45Speaker 2: In 1926.
- 47:46Speaker 4: iTunes, Spotify, Mojo Lombardi, and Canes, where you can find
- 47:49Speaker 4: the podcast. Have a wonderful Monday. We will talk to
- 47:53Speaker 4: you tomorrow.
- 47:54Speaker 3: Love you.
- 47:54Speaker 5: See you.