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Still Kicking: Ecosystems Within and Around Us | Live Recording with Aaron Ogden · Alive & Kicking: Stories of Waking Up with Kay Eck

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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so Alex says, we're on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for your tech support, Alex.
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  SPEAKER_01: And welcome everybody to our Facebook Live, the Still Kicking episode with Aaron Ogden.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome, Erin.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Great to be connecting with UK again and everyone else who's watching.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's really exciting.
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  SPEAKER_01: I want to thank everybody who's joining us and um let everybody know that we are here to talk about the inner and outer ecosystems, which um is a way of characterizing our reality that I hadn't ever really considered before.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um I had the opportunity to look through to watch our original podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um said was that you translate energy into the English language.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so please translate what is this energy and what is the translation?
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, gosh.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, and I'm I'm certainly not the first one to translate things like this.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like um, you know, I think about the Yoga Sutras, and both of us have, you know, studied yoga, and not that you need to be a yoga enthusiast, but even the ancient sutras, which are you know thousands of years old texts, they talk about the inner water channels.
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  SPEAKER_04: And if you look at like old school Europe, you know, like you had power if you controlled the water channels, like the king was more powerful if he controlled the water channels.
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  SPEAKER_04: And then now I'm involved in the modern permaculture movement, you know, which is more from the 70s and it has its own languaging, but you know, it talks about um the nuances and the articulation of, you know, even through science of the ecology.
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  SPEAKER_04: And now it's like big right now, you know, it's like really up.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so many of our of our um of our collective are interested in these ecological movements out of necessity.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I love tuning in through meditation and different what you call indigenous or shamanic practices, and just loving the elements and loving my own um my own um experience with permaculture and working in my gardens, you know, you can see that reflected within you.
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  SPEAKER_04: And not to go too like there can be so many nuances of going into the inner ecosystem and all the different like translations of that, but the inner is the outer, and the outer is the inner.
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  SPEAKER_04: And it reminds me of of what I might say in the astrology.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, again, whether you believe in astrology or not, Pluto and Jupiter have been linking up three times this year, and tomorrow is the last um time of this kind of pendulum swing from Earth's point of view.
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  SPEAKER_04: And Pluto in in the energy of Capricorn, which is the Western chart, is regenerating the entire mountain of being.
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  SPEAKER_04: So if you think of the ecosystem of a mountain, you know, and it has like everything you need.
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  SPEAKER_04: It has forest sides to it, you know, different light shadows, it has like forests, it has smaller plants, it has like deserty areas, it has water channels, it has an inner lava volcano, and all of that with Pluto and Capricorn since 2008, but specifically in 2020, it's been completely regenerating the whole thing through episodes.
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  SPEAKER_04: So there's a volcanic eruption which changes one landscape, there's a tornado, there's a flood, and it's not just earth changes, it's the Capricorn energy of business, the umbrella systems of even family or um society or any kind of major overarching umbrella system in your life, and it's slowly mulching the whole thing.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so just like a volcanic eruption can change one side of the mountain or one aspect of your life, and then a flood does something here, or a big downpour of rain, or or like COVID, you know, happened this year.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so the astrology is so earthy and so heavy hitting, and it's demanding that we pay attention in a physical way to the what I'd say is obvious changes happening.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so suddenly, like astrology and metaphysics and spirituality and our concepts, our beliefs, which is Jupiter linking up with Pluto, changing the landscape, not just of the mountain of being physically in our bodies, how we're feeling, our health, or the fear, the compromise, the compromised possibility, the fear that comes up with what might happen or what has happened, or how many have passed on, or complications or financial.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I mean, we're just getting started, especially in the US, with some of these changes.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, in it, and it can be in a really good way.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know, this can be like when the mountain of being is changing, it could just be season by season.
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  SPEAKER_04: There's obvious changes, but we can work with it.
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  SPEAKER_04: So we're learning to mulch all of this.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like you and I were like, oh, let's breathe together for a moment before we get on.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know, it's like, what else are we gonna do?
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  SPEAKER_04: Like, or you know, is that helpful?
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  SPEAKER_04: And we're coming into that, and then with Jupiter and our beliefs, our ideas, our our mental, even our prejudices or our um philosophy of life, it's like it's mulching too, and especially in the spiritual community, whatever that even means at this point.
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  SPEAKER_04: But you know, I referenced we connected briefly before, and it was like, well, you know, a lot of people we know, or maybe some people that are tuning in might have a little more of a spiritual um practice that's more etheric or unseen.
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  SPEAKER_04: And again, that Capricorn Pluto regenerating that heavy hitting earth energy is like COVID.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's like you have to pay attention.
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  SPEAKER_04: What is it like to pause really?
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  SPEAKER_04: What is it like to suddenly not have a job?
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  SPEAKER_04: What is it like to have a financial crisis?
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  SPEAKER_04: What is it like to have a political rendezvous with whatever this next level is, you know?
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, I don't know enough about politics to actually speak very well about that, but we but it's also obvious.
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  SPEAKER_04: And it doesn't mean there's not a spiritual reality and an unseen truth, and that metaphysics and different laws are are unique to the different layers of consciousness, but we're being asked to be really real in a third-dimensional, you know, earth-based way about the seen reality and learn to grace, like employ grace and decompose this and regenerate it as best we can.
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  SPEAKER_04: But then with Pluto regenerating this mountain of being, like what has changed or what still needs like a new structure, and and maybe there's decades ahead of some of this.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, and again, this is happening within us, in our psyche, in our bodies, you know, and whatever languaging, whatever is true for you, and it's happening with outside of us, but we're being asked to really, or it's not we're not just being asked to, we're being it's like pulling us to the outer reality, it's pulling us to our environment, and that's really good.
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  SPEAKER_04: We need to pay attention to it, but the it's like the opportunity is it there is an inner reality, there is an inner landscape that's also changing, and Jupiter is the truth, and Pluto is like what needs to release or let go of, or or what needs to be regenerated so that you can renew the truth within you.
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  SPEAKER_04: And that when I say the truth, it's like a silent space within you.
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  SPEAKER_04: So it's like, how can you as a spiritual being or use a spiritual practice, whatever that even means, what does that even mean to you to help you wake up each morning and really show up and really know that the truth of the moment, this might be a whole nother conversation, but that's lying within you.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so I guess that's not totally speaking to the inner and outer landscapes exactly or ecosystems, but it's it's to know that something within you is reflecting what's happening outside of you.
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  SPEAKER_04: And there's an opportunity that if you go within, if you close your eyes to see, whatever that means, but if you can close your eyes to see, you might be able to just take a moment of respite that helps you anchor in in a very real way, so that when you open your eyes back up, you can tend to what's in front of you in a very personal way, um, with your home, your family, your community.
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  SPEAKER_04: And then as you go out into the larger world, you can kind of pause more articulately when you're like, whoa, it's way out of bounds.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_04: I need to go back, you know, because I think a lot of us are so collectively minded right now.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we're paying attention to the mountain of being that's the whole earth, and it's like out of our hands.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's like come back to your own hands.
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  SPEAKER_04: What can your hands do?
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh, I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I want to just take a minute to um welcome everybody that's joining us on the live.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have Callie and Sherry and B and Lee and Hope.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, that sounds like a song.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, that's beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, everybody.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, everybody, for joining us.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you have questions for Erin throughout the live, please type them in the chat, and Alexandria will help us figure out how to ask those questions.
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  SPEAKER_01: And thanks again for being here.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: So um, I want to ask you what we were talking about before we came on.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: I was telling you that I was feeling increasingly human and that that feels it feels brand new to me.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_01: And I think what it is is that I feel more conscious and healed in the human experience.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I've never experienced that before.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_01: I've never been this conscious and this healed in the human body and in the experience, but I want to talk about this notion of being in the body because the energies are so intense that it's easy to be taken out of the body.
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  SPEAKER_01: And how how do we know if we're in our bodies and if we're not, how do we get in them?
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  SPEAKER_01: Super basic.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, this is.
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  SPEAKER_04: And possibly we're just coming today, tomorrow, like there's a major planetary reset on the winter solstice, December 22nd, bringing us into 2021.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like, you know, I was personally in Costa Rica for like nine months this year, and I didn't really do anything.
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  SPEAKER_04: And it was the hardest thing I've ever done, even though that's what I do for a living, is practice stillness and meditation and this philosophy that less is more.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yet this year, again, so much has happened.
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  SPEAKER_04: Some people have changed jobs or had a lot of benefit or a lot of outward success.
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  SPEAKER_04: But if you have just been kind of biding time and learning to just kind of get through this year, that actually was the general energy.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's like when you take the whole garden and you and you turn it over and winterize it, like the whole garden to be extreme.
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  SPEAKER_04: So consider the inner landscape of that.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like if the whole body's like, I don't even know.
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  SPEAKER_04: But to your point, like I'm so alive, or there's something, there's a space ready.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like it's it's so incredible.
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  SPEAKER_04: I just got like a really hilarious, like, it's a landing spot for like an ET spaceship.
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  SPEAKER_04: I think I'm thinking of our time in Shasta last year, like just like entertaining, whether someone believes it or not, just like we totally cleared a space and the spaceship of the the new intel, the new opportunity, like the total life transformation, or just the next piece that you need, that when you look back, you're like, that was the turning point.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like that's now.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just that practice.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've made a practice of just going for a walk without my phone.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that has like, I feel like it's saved my life because I um it's just it it just creates a neutral space that um it's just neutral, it's just like a reset, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I I can't, it seems like such a simple thing, but it's been so profound for me.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know.
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  SPEAKER_04: And the smallest thing, the smallest thing of taking a walk, even if it's a 10-minute walk, and you could still be in your head about it, possibly, but it gives more opportunity to be more aligned in a being sense, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: And it could be a small micro dosage like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I kind of feel like that has been one of the silver linings of COVID, is that because our lives have kind of compressed to the essential, that we have more opportunity to get into the body and to be aware of like the simple, you know, gestures and energetic flows and thoughts and stuff that we're actually going through.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like we're in, it's almost like a super duper uh slow motion boot camp.
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  SPEAKER_04: It is with like a lot of, you know, Mercury's been opposing Uranus.
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  SPEAKER_04: And it's hitting up, it'll be hitting up its third pendulum swing, just like the Jupiter Pluto pendulum swing.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_04: Since the last week of September, Mercury opposite Uranus, and it's going to hit up its last swing of epiphany, opportunity for sudden insight coming into this next week or so.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_04: And, you know, it's the revelation of body consciousness, of somatic awareness, of whatever this life form thing is, is incredible.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_04: And if you bring your third, your sixth sense or your you know your mental awareness, your witnessing capacity to this vehicle, it's like an Egyptian pyramid.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_04: You know, it's like it's it's like it is, I know so many people, and I sometimes I kind of like troll the internet, not in a negative sense, but you know, like a troll, you're just kind of looking around and not always interacting, but I I I aim to do it with a good intention to see what people are saying.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so many people are talking about how they just never like I never knew what it was like to be human, as you just said, or like in this new way, all these revelations and it's happening.
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  SPEAKER_04: We're just getting started with all of this.
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  SPEAKER_04: Even people like ourselves who maybe have practiced consciously these arts or this kind of looking inward and having space to think about new things or have epiphanies so much, and it it could dramatically move one into inspired action in a way that either can be really awesome, like great with what you've already been doing, you're like, Yeah, these are my values and next I'm just ethics, I'm gonna stay with it, or it could help you to move in a direction you never thought you could or would, and you know, and and overcome challenges that you never thought you would be able to overcome.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_04: And because everything's being changed up on the chessboard just enough so in a real way, a material way, the opportunities are there and we're coming together, we're listening to each other, whether we like it or not.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_04: You know, a lot of what we hear we don't like, but we're hearing, we're listening.
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  SPEAKER_04: And now's the time to start to attune and to start to discern.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_04: And there'll be other times in the astrology that help us.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_04: I love astrology because it helps us see the seasons, even month to month, when we can tune in and discern.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_04: And gosh, January, the new beginning, new reset, January 12th is another really good one.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_04: Thinking about last January, and then as we come into March when COVID really started to expand through our world, you know, we're gonna go through the cycle again next year and we're gonna have new opportunities in ways that are so much more um exfoliated.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, when we were talking last time, um, you mentioned that there was a time in your life where you didn't see anything for yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this kind of created a despondency in you, and you kind of felt like you didn't want to be here.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it wasn't until you learned to um go inward to tap into the wellspring, you called it, that you began to um understand that it it might be possible for you to stay.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I wonder if that is actually where a lot of people are at because they can't see where we're headed.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, none of us could anyway, but we had the illusion that we thought we knew what was going to happen.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like life has been fairly predictable, you know, all these years, but now it doesn't really feel like that anymore.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_04: It seemed to be predictable, right?
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it seemed to like match up.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but now it it's kind of lost that predictability.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I wonder if people are feeling that kind of despondency.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but so I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about this point that we're at where we don't know.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: We just don't know.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: And how do we get comfortable with that?
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, okay.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_04: This is so beautiful, and and to see the beauty in this is an extraordinary thing.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_04: Um and it's not lost upon us as humans, but it is not the easiest thing, and maybe it's the greatest challenge we're up against.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_04: And I wrote about it recently on Facebook, and it said it's it's okay to not know.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_04: And I just connected with my teacher this morning, and it was coming up for me just again.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_04: And of course, you're asking, and we're coming back to this conversation of like it was the question of like, okay, Erin, or okay, Kay, or okay, self like me in this world.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_04: Like, am I willing to be here?
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_04: And maybe more so in our collective, there might be even millions of people at any given day that that's actually the question they're asking.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: And where maybe I had felt so lost in that, you know, some 20 years ago in this life path, where it seemed like everyone was just like, Yeah, I'm just in college and I'll go to the keg party, and then I'll like study my classes and I'll become a lawyer, you know, and they did it, or I'll just like have a, you know, and not to undermine or diminish or belittle or any of that.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_04: It's incredible.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_04: Yet there's something else going on, and now it's obvious.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_04: And everyone asks these questions, and everyone's going to die.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_04: You know, we we know this, and it's different for everyone.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_04: Some people, it's funny, they're comical about it, you know.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_04: Some people garden, you know, some people um raise their children and bring new life, you know, some people are like me that are more metaphysical and philosophers, and and some people it's painful, like, but it's like that was my experience again in Costa Rica.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_04: And I thought, gosh, like 20 something years later, after all this teaching, and here I am up against the same question.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_04: And it's like, well, yes, honey, you are.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_04: You're here, you're breathing.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_04: But some days, some moments, all it is is a breath.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_04: Other moments, it's like a whole new job, a whole new inspiration.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_04: Other days it's just kind of like, yeah, I'm just getting along.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_04: And I think with COVID, we had sometimes collectively, millions and millions of people experiencing day to day, week to week, even month to month, like I'm on retreat and I don't know if I like it.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_04: Or I don't, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_04: And I in my experience and what my teachers show me too, is it it's always the same.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_04: Like it, it's not like there's the answer.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_04: You just start to get really good at like a good farmer knows, I mulch the fields and I I keep listening and looking at the weather patterns and tuning into the cycles to when I need to mulch, but I'm gonna need to keep mulching.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_04: Things are gonna die, but then new things sprout up, like when the leaves fall off the tree and fall.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_04: You know, if you were like screaming in agony at the tree of don't die, people would look at you weird, being like, honey, like it's called winter, you know.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_04: So it's like we are in the winter of our lives.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_04: The United States is in the winter, like the new president, we're still in winter.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_04: It's it's not exactly the next president that's gonna make the biggest difference.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_04: There's an overarching winterizing effect happening.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_04: It doesn't mean you can't have spring every day.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_04: So it's it's it's a little complicated or confusing to talk about, but we're in an overarching winter in our lives.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_04: But every day, if you can microdose the breath, if you can microdose the seasons, you can bring new life to each inhale, you can bring new life to each day, you could bring new life to 2021, but it's to also understand there's an overarching winter.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_04: That's where like Jupiter, who's a benefic, who's like the good fortune, was in his downfall this whole year, meeting up with Pluto.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_04: And again, right now is the last pendulum swing where Jupiter's like, the good news is it's time to let go.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_04: The good news is like we're not done yet mulching the garden.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_04: The good news is like, even if you like the new president, like that's not the total answer.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_04: And I mean, again, I want to express I'm limited on politics and but I want to bring it up because it's nothing's for certain.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_04: Even the astrology of inauguration day is like a shit show, meaning it'll cast us into the unknown.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_04: Whatever it is that happens will show us that there is some, it'll exfoliate some understanding, likely on a mass scale, that we don't quite know.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_04: And so if we can keep humbling ourselves, go back into the body, just tune into the breath, or or whatever it is you do, you know.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_04: I don't want to be like all it doesn't have to be like spiritual or anything, just whatever you do to like relax or let go or enjoy yourself or not whatever, because some people enjoy themselves in sadistic ways, and it's not so cool.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_04: But for the majority of us, you know, like a way that you can tune in to something that doesn't require you to know anything, play a game.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but even like sports are shut down a lot, and I understand like even the things we naturally go to are blocked.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_04: So the challenge is all around us, but it's helping us open up to a gate, a gateway into a new way of seeing things.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I yeah, it's kind of I feel like I'm at the edge where I don't really know how to speak to it.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: I know for me, every every day I'm finding the call to just to go back to basics, whether it's just um, you know, taking a shower, taking a second shower for the day, or just you know, just making some tea or just super basic.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm constantly being called back to the the basics.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_01: I I was wondering if you could speak to how to how do how do we help people shift or understand that there are different ways of looking at what is happening in the outer reality, the outer ecosphere, and it's its potential effect on you.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like people are so hooked into um a certain outcome that if we have this president, then everything's gonna go it's gonna go like this.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_04: And if we have the I'm thinking of the tree that I just said, like people are seeing a tree dropping its leaves like a change, and they're believing it on its surface view.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_04: Like again, if you I don't, I mean, no one most people learn about seasons at such a young age, this wouldn't happen.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_04: But like if you didn't know anything about anything and you see a tree dropping its leaves, you might think it's dying.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_04: And it's like, no, that's the it's regenerating.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_04: It might be stronger, but it's drawing its energy into its core, into an unseen truth, into the into the roots and the soil.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_04: So it's the soil underneath that's unseen that that is what we need to pay attention to.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_04: And then we know the tree will grow its leaves back, most likely.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_04: Every once in a while, a tree really dies.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_04: And that's, I think, the scary thing is there are some trees that are dying.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_04: But what is that?
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_04: And so, and it's much more complicated than I'm saying, but if we bring our ourselves back in somatically into being, where basically whatever it is you do with that, you don't need to believe anything or think anything.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_04: And this is saying a lot.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, this is a maturity that I don't find that very many of us have or even interested in.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_04: A lot of us, even if we're spiritual, we have religious ideas which are beautiful, but they don't always help facilitate this inner truth, like it's the priest that told us, or like in God we trust, but maybe we don't really know exactly what that is, or we need to dive a little deeper for a lot of us, even if we do have a great practice.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_04: And again, it doesn't matter if it's a religious practice or spiritual or just or you're an atheist, whatever, but there's something about the material phenomenal reality is really pulling us, like the tree's dropping its leaves, and everyone's pointing and saying the tree's dying, and then they're pointing toward like I don't know, the the guy next to it with a with a blower like blowing the leaves off or something, and it's like he's not doing it, or you know, we're mistaking it, but I don't know exactly who it is or what it is that's going on, and saying it's God or the universe isn't quite enough right now, unless you're someone who is like, if it's enough, it means that you're like when I pay attention to nature, I'm okay.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_04: And I notice that I'm okay.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_04: I can notice my mind and I can look on Facebook or the news, or I can see all the not okayness, but I can I can also hold a space where I'm like, well, the wind is blowing, or the sun is setting, or like the leaves are falling, or there are some new seeds sprouting, and it so there's it seems like there's two things going on, or different things that have totally different realities happening.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_04: And I just know that when I look out of it, even if I'm super smart, and I have colleagues and friends who are so smart, I know some of the most intelligent people, and they can follow the rabbit holes and they can do all that.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_04: But at the end of the day, when we sit together, we don't know in the same way.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_04: Even astrologers who are sometimes very gifted at predicting out of thousands of years of evolutionary cycles, we witnessed like science, like watched, we don't know what's going to turn out tomorrow or at the end of 2020.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_04: Or on inauguration day, I don't know, but I do know the sign and symbol says, you know, opportunity to feel deeply and opportunity to feel like you don't know.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, and that might be an over-simplistic way to say it, but like how comfortable are we, or how willing are we to increase our capacity to not know or to not need to know so instantly and to maybe conjure some values.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_04: Like I value personally, um, and this could be my own issues too, or my own thing, but like I want to be this diplomat, but like I like to um I value, I like to speak nicely to others, you know, or I like to um be considerate of others or be kind to others.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_04: And I know kindness is not sometimes you need to experience what's the opposite of kindness, unkindness.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_04: You know, sometimes that needs to happen, yeah.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but generally, like I value that, or I value listening.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_04: I value like when I don't, when I can let go of being right, you know, or I can, and I mean this is I do well speaking, like here I am blabbing, you know.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_04: But I I love to speak and just share, but like when it's time for someone else to share or me to just witness and listen, like I value that.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_04: And I think there's a lot of room for a lot of us to kind of remember our values and activate those again, you know, and it might be a little bit like less is more, like pausing in between our response or our reaction.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I had that's funny that you say that because um what I hate when I drive between Michigan and Illinois, I have to travel on a road that is extremely busy and um on this highway.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_01: And it's always it, it it has been I've been traveling this road since I was a little kid and making this trip back and forth.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_01: And um one of my triggers is like reckless drivers, yeah.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I for the last year or so I haven't really been triggered by the driving, and the my experiences of driving the route has been really calm.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_01: But today uh I was in like a construction zone and somebody was like pulling right up on my tail, and there was a a couple of police officers, and I was like, this guy should be thanking me because if I weren't here blocking his way, he would be getting a speeding ticket right now.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: He but I I finally pulled over, and then um, you know, he was he like zoomed past, and I like I didn't exactly make a gesture, but I kind of like threw up my hands in frustration, and he must have seen a gesture.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: So he like basically stops on the highway, pulls up next to me, and then just you know, whatever, he just takes off.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I usually would say to myself, like, why do you let yourself get triggered?
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like, maybe he's on the way to the hospital, you know, like all these things.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_01: And today I was just like, that pisses me off, and I'm just gonna let it piss me off today.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_01: And that's not that's like not my go-to response.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_01: I always feel like I have to like make it nice and everything.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_01: So that's like, you know, kind of exactly what you're saying is let's just have the experience we're having.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_04: It's a I hear the word container, like it says a lot about the container, which could go back to the body, like this is our a physical container for us, our psyche, our butt like you held a container for yourself where you whether it was uncontained, you were able to fully feel how you felt.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_04: And because it has been so I mean, I've noticed this in myself, just so flippant, or just sudden, like expressions or even just thoughts, or even if it's inward, and and of course, more so externalized through others.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_04: Um that's huge, okay.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_04: Like to recognize, talk about being human, like this uniqueness of being human, not unique like we're better than other animals or other life beings that we might discover already know about, but this ability to witness or like be aware of yeah, I'm pissed, I'm human, and I'm pissed, and I'm a spiritual being, or I have some capacity to notice that, and that's cool.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like I'm a like I and I I know you in a way too, as you've been sharing.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you just share yourself so in such a real way, but such a heartfelt way.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_04: Like, and I think like there's a lot, it's it reminds me of digestion.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_04: Like a lot of us are needing some more time to digest how we've responded and reacted, even this year, yeah, and how it's shown us more exactly or the nuances of like, whoa, that's what it feels like to get pissed off.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_04: And it happens out of nowhere, or it can happen out of nowhere, and it doesn't have to make sense.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_04: It just is like, you know, but the same for joy, the same for spaciousness, the same for compassion.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_01: And and you know what was different about it was that I didn't make it about him, that he was doing something wrong or that he was rude or whatever.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_01: I just made it about me.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm I just don't like that situation and I'm feeling this.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: And that was like a big shift for me because usually I would be like, Why do people have to act that way?
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's like it's not safe, and you know, there's people construction, you know, whatever the whole story.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_04: That's that's a very digestible and like.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_04: Relatable way when you talk about when I say like inner outer ecosystem and inner ecosystem, like what does that mean?
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_04: It's like take responsibility for how you feel, and it's okay.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_04: How could how you feel ever be wrong?
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_04: There is never anything wrong with how we feel and how we react.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_04: Like, and I'm I'm hearing that it feels like it's washing over me, like there's some what I call healing in that, and to and then it's digestible, you know, and then then there's opportunity to refine.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_04: If you're getting pissed off every day, you might be like, okay, like I'm not driving that route again right now, or you know, like whatever, you know, there's there's practical solutions and many counselors and therapists and good friends out there and internet sites and everything to help us.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_04: And if anyone needs help with that, you know, I'm I'm sure either you and I even have some good resources because sometimes we don't feel like you're like on the route again, you're pissed off again, and you're just like, ah, you know, it can get too much.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_04: But I think there's such this is Jupiter with Pluto, where it's like a generosity of like, it's okay, and you could let that go.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_04: Like no guilt or shame needed.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_04: Wow, I had the opportunity to feel again what it's like to be human right now as I am, and that might even bring us together.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, yeah.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, one of the things that you said in our podcast that I think is also relevant is that you said that everything is love and everything comes from love, and that's just a pretty challenging teaching.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_01: And um you also said like that instead of making a story around it, um, try seeing it all the way through.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm wondering if you could kind of speak to I lied.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_04: No, it reminds me of what I said earlier about how beautiful you now I already forget um what you said, but I'm like, oh, that's so beautiful.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_04: And like, if everything is love, like what is love?
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_04: Love is everything, like so.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_04: Love can be the I wanted to say hatred, but like that doesn't make any sense.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_04: But what if love was independent of our preference?
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I think we think love is, you know, this is it's like a trickster thing to talk about love in this way, you know.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_04: But like what if love is everything?
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_04: Like we're speaking to unconditional love, is really what we're doing.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_04: And that's that's a reach for humans because it's almost impossible.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_04: But every one of us, I think almost every one of us knows what unconditional love is, even if we feel like we're messing up all the time, or like we keep, you know, ridiculing our loved ones, or it's hard, we our heart closes and we reject all that's happening.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yet that river that flows through it, that golden thread, we know.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know what part of us knows, and this year has, I think, exfoliated or thinned the barriers.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_04: Like you're more able to, from what I'm hearing from you, you were more able to be with yourself, so to speak, even when you were angry, which might be a thing that we're like, oh, I don't want to be angry or whatever.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_04: I don't mean to say you were angry, but whatever was coming through.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_04: And that's my experience of seeing the beauty in all of it, and even the beauty in messing up, even the beauty in I can say the philosophy, I can speak it, you know, I can teach about it, but like at the end of the day, I mess up every day, so to speak, you know, like um, and how can I forgive, so to speak?
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_04: Like the sun forgives like the night for coming.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_04: It just happens, like it, there's something such a sweet surrender.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_04: And this is again the Jupiter-Pluto conjunction, you know, like these planets when they meet together the third time tomorrow.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_04: Sometimes events occur.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_04: It could be as simple as this conversation, it could be of it could be nuance.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_04: It's the third time around.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_04: So the first time I'm forgetting exactly when this happened, but it was like it's been three times through this year, um, where there might have been events or happenings, and there's a grace period, so it could be even a period of a week, but tomorrow's the exactitude where you might have an opportunity to see like, how am I regenerating?
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_04: Like, like, what am I learning from this time of like letting go and deep change?
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, like what am I learning from it?
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_04: What am I being taught?
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_04: And you, it's very fair to say, I don't know, or even I don't care.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_04: I'm pretty pissed off right now.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_04: That's actually radical acceptance, like, I don't even want to hear that.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_04: Like, that's like we have permission for that, but when you acknowledge that that's actually where you're at, then it only leads to more spaciousness to where you'll be like, what I'm learning is like I'm not into this right now, or whatever, you know, and maybe it'll lead to some laughter or um, but also like really, what are you learning?
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_04: And it might not be readily available, the understanding of that.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but for others, it could be revelatory.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I just want to um shout out to Andrea and Carol.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for joining us.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for saying hello.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um if you guys have questions for Aaron, please type them in the chat box.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_01: And um I was I wonder if we could just finish up.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um and maybe if you could tell us what the astrology is telling us for 2021.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_01: What should we be thinking about um preparing for?
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's um someone like myself who just loves language and different ways of translating and loves astrology.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_04: Um, this is such a juicy question.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_04: And I find myself more vulnerable than ever in when the when the opportunity to actually speak to it comes, I'm like, ah um it's too much.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_04: No, it's it's really it's so good.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_04: Um the soaturn has been in Capricorn for the last three years.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_04: Jupiter's been in Capricorn since 2008, and Ju or sorry, Pluto's been in Capricorn since 2008, and Jupiter is taking a year to go through Capricorn this year, and all those planets have been meeting up in the same area, especially since January, Saturn and Pluto, and then they're all kind of doing this dance together, going and then quickly Saturn and Jupiter are going to go into Aquarius and meet up at zero degrees Aquarius, the beginning of that energy on the winter solstice in December, and they're resetting their union, which is a 20-year cycle, but it's a 200-year cycle of those energies reuniting in air, where they've been reuniting in Earth energy for the last 200 years or so.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm trying to keep this simple because it can get so complex, all the cycles, but there's a whole new, it's like when you open up all the windows in spring and get fresh air in your house.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_04: There's a whole new air to the environment, but it's a reset, just like just like Saturn met up with Pluto and reset at the January 2020 in Capricorn, but that was a more heavy, dense energy, which we've seen this year, but it was just a reset.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_04: It's like we just started mulching the gardens, but again, it's not so literal.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_04: Like Pluto's been in Capricorn since 2008.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_04: What happened in 2008 in the United States?
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_04: Like the economy started shifting immediately, and then it's been this long thing, and Pluto still has a number of more years to go through Capricorn and reset with the natal cap the natal Pluto in the US chart in 2022.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_04: So we're just seeing the effects of this mulching.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_04: But again, the planetary reset at the end of this year coming into 2021 is showing Aquarius, the water in the air, the the connectivity of air of communication through technology.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_04: Uranus is the modern ruler of Aquarius, um, through groups, Aquarius through the higher good, through seeing at the top of the mountain.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_04: So, you know, even the next like weeks to come, if each person's like, what am I learning?
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_04: You know, what like what's the top of the mountain kind of view?
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_04: Like, do I see things more clearly or in a new way?
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_04: Has my perspective changed?
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not saying that this is generally gonna be like more positive, because that's kind of a judgment or a personal assessment.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_04: For many of us, we're gonna have an opening that's gonna feel less heavy and less dense.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but it's gonna give rise to the older systems wanting to hang on and keep doing their thing.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_04: And it's gonna give rise to the new, more revolutionary or innovative systems to give rise and want to be implemented as well.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, may they do this, but it this is a world of duality, you know.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so when you see it on the material level, it's gonna have light and dark, it's gonna have probably conjure your preference of good or bad.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_04: And it's so intense these days, it's like I hate that, I reject that, I split off that, I de-friend that, you know, like people are de-friending the government, you know, like or unfriending the government.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_04: Like, can you do that?
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_04: And I think this new planetary reset, some people are gonna be like, I unfriended the government.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, whatever that means, but something like that outrageous.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_04: But it's like, to your point, let it be simple.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_04: Like go back to simplicity.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_04: A lot of people are going back to nature or just going back to the natural flow of their breath, their embodiment, and just like doing the best they can with the changing systems and maybe implementing some innovation or saying yes to new innovations coming out.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so we are just getting started with a new 20-year cycle, which is a 200-year cycle in air.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_04: So, again, we're coming into the age of technology, which what does that mean?
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_04: I don't think I think we've my grandmother went from cars to computers in her lifetime, and she's passed.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_04: Like, we're you think about how monumental that was, we're nowhere.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's so easy to say, right?
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_04: But we have no idea in the next decade.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, we kind of have some ideas, but like we don't really know what it feels like in our body and our breath.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I barely can handle 20 minutes on Facebook without being like, what just happened?
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_04: In a positive way, or also in a way where I don't know.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_04: So it's it's exciting and it is generally giving an opportunity for some lightness.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_04: But if you don't know what you're learning and you're not interested in finding out, it's gonna leave it up to the systems that are already in charge or the new systems to do it for you.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_04: And that could work for you, you know, and many people will be of service to those systems and just do just be a humble servant or just try to pay the rent and make the you know, feed their kids or whatever, and that that's really good.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_04: And may you be blessed with some joy in your life, but other people are gonna really feel their empowerment and get involved in new ways.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_01: Let me ask you a question for Carol.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she's saying, what happens when you have a block and you can't seem to get through it?
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_01: She says, I have been so angry and hostile and can't do anything.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, thank you, Carol.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_04: Gosh.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_04: First of all, for the question.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_04: Um I mean, I'm I'm I just like felt silence for a moment too, and just I just want to say again, thank you for that question.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_04: Like because there's not an easy answer, you know, it's not a alive and kicking Facebook like channel, like we're like, we got it.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, that would be so presumptuous.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_04: Um I know that it's possible to get through a block that where you think it'll take you out, and you would even choose to harm yourself or someone else instead of be with the block.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_04: And it's still there are miracles, there's still space, like anything is possible.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_04: And I just want to speak to that intensity of if you ever feel like I can't budge this, and the thing is sometimes the simplest, softest thing to the hardest thing, the soft overcomes the hard, is one of the translations in the Dao De Ching, which is one of the oldest texts.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_04: The soft overcomes the hard.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_04: So, how can we summon the courage to soften our stance around what we think is a block?
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_04: And it doesn't mean you're not right about what you feel.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_04: It actually maybe is giving a little more, like what you said, Kay, like to feel it and to feel it all the way through.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't really speak to that, but like when you feel the block, like what is it to just like touch it and even lovingly touch it to feel its spikes, to feel its toxic energy or to feel its impossibility.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_04: And maybe, you know, maybe do this with me right now.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_04: What is that?
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm just putting my hands like this, but it's like to touch in to like a knife in the dark and not cut yourself, but just slide your finger along that sharp razor edge and know that if you went too fast, it could slice and you would bleed, you know, like it would harm, but like to go slowly, to soften, to pause, to conjure the bravery and the courage that what if I don't have to fight in the way that I've thought I did, or the only maybe there's a different way to work with this.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_04: And in that space, something opens, something changes in our field.
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know how to explain it, but like suddenly a phone call comes and a friend has the reaches out and you don't even want to answer it, you know, or you get on the internet trying to distract yourself, but you've conjured like I'm willing, I'm willing to be with this again.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_04: You know, how many days has this gone on?
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_04: How many years?
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_04: How many lifetimes have I felt this blog, or how impossible?
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_04: And then the something pops up on the internet, you know, or like you go out for a walk, and I mean, there's endless things that just start to um it's what we work with in massage therapy, where like you start to heat up the system by like just putting constant attention or hand pressure or presence to it, and it starts to become more malleable.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_04: And I know that I don't know if this is like exactly the right words or if if it's touching in, but like there is something about pausing and the willingness to feel it fully, like maybe I haven't felt it all the way through.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe there's something else I don't know about this that the block is also the opening.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, there's a there's a doorknob or something like that.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_01: I can speak to that so much with some with the physical, because I have been going through this problem with my hand where I have severe pain in my fingertip.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_01: And it is sometimes it radiates all the way up into the shoulder, but it's always in the finger, and it seems so small, but the pain is unbelievable.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_01: But even that gesture, like that's a strong gesture, and and even like this has been going on for so long, and I've tried you know, physical therapy, I've tried massage, I've tried, you know, all kinds of different things.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I just decided to stop all that and just let it hurt.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_01: It just hurts, it hurts all the time, it hurts every day, but I've noticed that when I remove my attention from solving it, yeah, it solves itself.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_01: And this has been a pattern in with anything physical that I've gone through.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like, and then one day you'll be like, Oh, my finger doesn't hurt anymore.
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like, wonder how that happened.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_04: Same with massage therapy.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_04: You say you have a shoulder issue here, you might massage over here, and it promotes relaxation, it promotes ease of the tension of the mind.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_04: Ah, this.
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  SPEAKER_04: And then we found that there's neurologically in all these, I mean, there's so many ways that it's like, oh, it just a solution comes or it releases.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_04: Um, same with the block that's being spoken of.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_04: Like sometimes we're butting our heads against the block, and it's like, could you bring your attention to something you love and enjoy?
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  unknown: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know, with the intention of like, I'm not looking away from that block or whatever that issue is, or I honor it for what it is, or I don't understand it, whatever the stance is, and I'm gonna go do this other thing.
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  SPEAKER_04: And it just starts to lubricate us and possibly opens us up in a way that we didn't know we were close to, so that we the solution can come in.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_04: The um help.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_04: I'm getting a strong, it's more, I don't know how to explain intuition, but are you willing to receive help specifically with that question and receive the help as it presents itself, which might be like need some decoding.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_04: Like it it could even be something like, oh, I have an opportunity to do something I love.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_04: What if that's actually helping promote the solution?
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_04: Or it could be something very literal as someone, the solution's there, and you're just really not the block is actually like, I don't want that solution.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_04: Like, say you needed to change jobs and you just don't want to change the job.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_04: You know, like you could be blocking, but the solution is let go, surrender.
• 1:04:44
  SPEAKER_04: And I mean, that's really, I want to cuss about it.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_04: It's really annoying when someone tells you to surrender and you're like, not now.
• 1:04:51
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_04: Like it's like I've done, you know, I've trained in massage therapy, for instance, or like in yoga, you know, the yoga teacher's like, and relax, you know, and you're just like, you know, like, you know, like it's and I I laugh because it's it's not nice, like as the yoga teacher, I'm like, don't send daggers at me.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_04: But like there is sometimes it's just like it's again the inner and outer ecosystem, the block is within us, yet the material reality, the astrology energy is so exacerbated on the outside that it's like brick wall, brick wall, brick wall, and you have bloody knuckles, and then there's an infection, and you're trying to like crochet a blanket because you don't have money to like warm yourself.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's just all these snowball effects, and then you forgot that like like my I'm holding my belly so tight that I'm not even able to like like receive like I used to be.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_04: And I think there's been some long effects of 2020.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_04: 20 that are we're gonna require a little active rest or active counsel or active digesting on purpose.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_04: And the planet here reset should help with that, but you can't just sit on the couch or just listen to this, you know, this talk.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_04: Um we're gonna need to be actively receptive and open and vulnerable.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um so before we um sign off, I just want to remind everybody that this this podcast, the still kicking podcast that we do on Facebook Live, as well as the Alive and Kicking podcasts, are all available.
• 1:06:41
  SPEAKER_01: You can go to my website, kac.com, and find all the links to your favorite uh you know podcast channels.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_01: You can find everything there.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_01: And we'll have another new podcast next week.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_01: And we're trying to do the alive and kicking on the off week or the still kicking.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_01: So um, with that, I want to ask you if you have anything that you want to say before we sign off.
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_04: I think we've said we've said enough for now.
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, people are always welcome to reach out to me if they want to inquire um further into this discovery.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_04: Or and I'm I'm writing regularly on my Facebook page too for some of these, just to hold the space is the best I know how to do.
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'll have if you could go to the um the chat and just put your information in there and how people can find you, I think that would be awesome.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, sure.
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, anyone who's been listening or listens to this recorded, just you know, thank you for receiving, just for paying attention.
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_04: You know, it's my intention and I know yours, Kay, too, to set a space where whatever it is that's said, it's holding a space for people to unravel a little bit in a positive way, you know, to release.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and may it be just the simplest thing, like just a conscious breath in and out, but may that that little micro dosage of whatever it is through this time together open us up into you know, that felt experience of some joy, some ecstasy, or just a little bit of lightness, depending on where we're at.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_04: And and you know, this world is much more malleable and much more, you know, I I get a chance to look at endless fields and mountainscapes that are unaffected by the political experience and all of that, and this world, the earth sphere, it's not all what's in the news, you know, it's not all what it seems like it is, and it doesn't mean all that's not true in a way, and there's not a gravity and a seriousness, yet there is so much here for us.
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_04: Um, there's there's so much beauty that's so available and obvious and feels good.
• 1:09:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, oh my gosh, I feel that so much.
• 1:09:13
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for that.
• 1:09:14
  SPEAKER_01: I I second that.
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_01: Reach reach for the reach for the light.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:20
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for being with us, Erin.
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's always a pleasure to get together with you and yeah, hear all of your brilliance coming to the surface.
• 1:09:30
  SPEAKER_01: I really appreciate it.
• 1:09:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so much.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you, everyone.
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_01: Bye bye, good night.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_01: Bye.