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The Ron Verb Show - 5pm Hour Thursday, 08/06/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Participants now ron verb on news radio 570 wkbn.
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  Speaker 2: All righty. From NewsRadio 570 WKBN and Ron Ferb, we
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  Speaker 2: are underway with the legal show here on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: I'll hook you up with our lawyers. Let's see if
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  Speaker 2: he's back. We only hope that Attorney David Beatrice, the kingmaker,
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  Speaker 2: is joining us. Attorney Beatrice.
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  Speaker 5: I am. I am. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I am well. You have been missed. People have always asked,
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  Speaker 2: where is Dave? Where is Dave? Everybody wants to know.
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  Speaker 5: I'm here. I'm right here.
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  Speaker 2: I know, but you've been gone. You've been absent. We've
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  Speaker 2: missed you.
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  Speaker 5: Well, last week, I had to go up to the
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  Speaker 5: boat early because my son got engaged.
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  Speaker 2: Do you like the girl? Let's talk about that.
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  Speaker 5: I like her very much. Okay. And she was born
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  Speaker 5: and reared in the Florida Keys. So I took her
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  Speaker 5: a couple times to Put-In-Bay and... She said it reminded
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  Speaker 5: her so much of the Keys that they'd like to
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  Speaker 5: get married there. So she brought her best friend up,
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  Speaker 5: which is a wedding planner, and me and my wife
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  Speaker 5: and Jackie, who's my son's fiancé, and her best friend,
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  Speaker 5: who's a wedding planner, for the breakers in West Palm,
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  Speaker 5: by the way. And we were looking at different venues.
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  Speaker 5: They kept asking me my opinions. And here's my position
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  Speaker 5: on that. Information is power. I don't want to have
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  Speaker 5: any power. Here's what I want to do. How much
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  Speaker 5: does this cost? And then let me write the check.
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  Speaker 5: Don't ask me for my opinion. Don't ask me to
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  Speaker 5: make any decisions. I don't want to make decisions. Decisions
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  Speaker 5: give you power. When you have power, you will get
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  Speaker 5: blamed for decisions. I don't want to get blamed for anything.
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  Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute. Hold on a second. I need
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  Speaker 2: to interject here because you might be missing something. This
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  Speaker 2: is your son getting married, right? Correct?
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  Speaker 5: That is correct.
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  Speaker 2: My oldest.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen the movie Father of the Bride?
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  Speaker 2: He's not a bride.
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  Speaker 5: He's a groom.
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  Speaker 2: I am talking the movie Father of the Bride. The
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  Speaker 2: movie is about the father of the bride pays the
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  Speaker 2: bulk of the bill for the wedding, and you pick
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  Speaker 2: up the booze or something like that. Isn't that how
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  Speaker 2: it's supposed to work?
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  Speaker 5: That's how it's supposed to work. But I have volunteered
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  Speaker 5: to pay for their wedding, and that's what I plan
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  Speaker 5: to do.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to pay for the whole thing?
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  Speaker 5: Basically, yes.
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  Speaker 2: And so they came to you on your boat in Put-In-Bay,
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  Speaker 2: and they brought a wedding planner with them?
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  Speaker 5: Well, his fiancée has come before to the boat, and
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  Speaker 5: she loves Put-In-Bay because it gives her childhood memories of
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  Speaker 5: the Florida Keys. So if you've been to the Florida
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  Speaker 5: Keys and you go to Put-In-Bay, they have a very
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  Speaker 5: similar vibe about them. And she liked that it gave
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  Speaker 5: her a childhood memory.
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  Speaker 2: Where does she live now?
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  Speaker 5: My son and her live in Savannah, Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so where will their wedding be up here?
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  Speaker 5: Well, tentatively at Put-In-Bay, but nothing's in stone yet. And
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  Speaker 5: so that's where it sits. So it was me, my wife,
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  Speaker 5: my son's fiance, and her best friend who's a wedding planner.
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  Speaker 2: And how did it go?
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  Speaker 5: I didn't want to know. I didn't ask any questions.
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  Speaker 2: Did you pay attention?
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  Speaker 5: I did not. I went and may have day drunk
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  Speaker 5: on late Thursday afternoon and Friday. OK, well, they went
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  Speaker 5: and did their things and they came back and they
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  Speaker 5: wanted to share it with me. And I said, hey,
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  Speaker 5: this sounds fun. Whatever you guys decide sounds good with me.
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  Speaker 5: I don't I listen. Information. I've learned this after 41
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  Speaker 5: years of practicing law. Information is power.
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  Speaker 2: Did you give him a budget? Yes or no? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Did you draw a line in the sand as saying, listen,
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  Speaker 2: here's how much I'm willing to spend on this fiasco wedding?
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  Speaker 5: That is my wife's shop. See, once again, that would
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  Speaker 5: be me weighing into the process.
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  Speaker 2: Me making a decision. Did you discuss a budget with
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  Speaker 2: your wife?
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  Speaker 5: No, I did not.
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  Speaker 2: So as far as you know, it could be $ 10, 000
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  Speaker 2: or $ 50, 000.
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  Speaker 5: As far as I know, you are 100% correct in
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  Speaker 5: that assessment.
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  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you set some type of a budget?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, what don't you understand about the fact that I
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  Speaker 5: want no decisions to be made, I want no information
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  Speaker 5: to be laid in my lap, I want to make
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  Speaker 5: no decisions? Because I then can't get blamed for anything.
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  Speaker 2: Okay? I can't get blamed for anything. So at no
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  Speaker 2: point did you say, okay, this is how many guests
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  Speaker 2: we can have. It's not going to be unlimited.
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  Speaker 5: No, I have not said that.
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  Speaker 2: This is how much money I'm willing to spend.
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  Speaker 5: I roughly, I overheard them talking.
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  Speaker 2: This is a nightmare.
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  Speaker 5: It's not a nightmare. When you do a destination wedding, okay,
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  Speaker 5: you're going to get about 50 to 60% of the
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  Speaker 5: people you invite to show up. And so the only
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  Speaker 5: things they've asked me is, How do we get people
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  Speaker 5: over to the island? And I said, I can make
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  Speaker 5: those arrangements. I can rent a jet express, or we
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  Speaker 5: could just say, here are the schedules for the express
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  Speaker 5: for the Miller's Ferry. Here are the rooms available. And
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  Speaker 5: then that's it. I don't want to know anything else.
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  Speaker 5: I really don't. All I know is my son, who's
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  Speaker 5: going to be getting married, and then my other son
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  Speaker 5: and my daughter's future fiancé, who We're all staying on
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  Speaker 5: the boat, the four guys. And we're going to trash
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  Speaker 5: it because my wife won't be there.
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  Speaker 2: Your boat.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely. It's going to be a bachelor pad for a
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  Speaker 5: couple days.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Pause for just one second. Is Tally there?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, Tally's here.
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  Speaker 2: I need to talk to her.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tally, this is a nightmare he's talking about.
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  Speaker 5: It's not a nightmare.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me, I'm talking with Tally at the present time.
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  Speaker 5: Tally, what is a nightmare about what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 6: I would like to formally request an adoption by Dave
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  Speaker 6: Beatrice for my upcoming vacation if he could just write
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  Speaker 6: a check.
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  Speaker 5: For all of us.
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  Speaker 2: Tally, let me ask you a question, all right? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, Tally did every father's dream. Tally married
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  Speaker 2: a doctor.
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  Speaker 4: But..
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, no. We have to qualify that.
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  Speaker 5: She didn't marry just the doctor. She married a surgeon.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: But I just wanted to emphasize that.
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  Speaker 5: So we have that right.
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  Speaker 6: I married him before he became one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. But Tali, when you got married, was there, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with your dad and the people that were paying for
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  Speaker 2: the wedding, did they say, here's how many people we
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  Speaker 2: can invite. Here's what the budget is. Here's the parameters.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: So me and Adam don't actually come from a whole
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  Speaker 6: bunch of– we come from families with limited means. So
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  Speaker 6: they both helped out as much as they could. But
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  Speaker 6: Adam and I actually paid the majority of our wedding.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me. Could you say that a little louder, Tali?
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  Speaker 2: What was that again?
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  Speaker 6: Adam and I actually paid for the majority of our wedding,
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  Speaker 6: just because our parents both come from limited means.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Okay. Is Dave hearing this? I just want to
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  Speaker 2: make sure he hears this.
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  Speaker 5: I am hearing this, and let me respond.
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  Speaker 6: But I think that's wonderful.
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  Speaker 5: No, I think it's great. Let me respond to that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, no, I'm not done with Tally.
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  Speaker 5: I want to respond to that.
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  Speaker 2: I am not done with Tally. You must... No, no, no. Tally,
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  Speaker 2: let me ask you the follow-up question, please. Traditionally, is
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  Speaker 2: it not the father..
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  Speaker 5: Do we have any calls?
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not ready yet. Don't worry.
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  Speaker 5: My wife, my daughter, already told me that she... Has
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  Speaker 5: an unlimited budget. Oh, Jesus.
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  Speaker 6: That zero percent surprises me with your daughter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: She just said, here's what I'm going to do. You're
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  Speaker 5: going to pay for it, and you're not going to
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  Speaker 5: question it.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's wonderful. And honestly, if my parents could
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  Speaker 6: have done that, they would have. And maybe I'll do
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  Speaker 6: that for my kids. I think it's very generous of Dave,
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  Speaker 6: and I think it shows how much he loves me.
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  Speaker 2: Let me just say this. I just want to ask
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  Speaker 2: one question to Tally, please. Tally, does the father of
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  Speaker 2: the bride traditionally pay for the? Isn't that how it
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  Speaker 2: traditionally works, Tyler?
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  Speaker 6: Traditionally, if they can afford it, yes.
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  Speaker 5: Okay. Did you hear that little caveat on it?
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  Speaker 6: But how generous is it?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, let's... My son is serving his country. My son's
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  Speaker 5: not even in the United States right now. So if
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  Speaker 5: my son wants to have a nice wedding, I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to give him a nice wedding. Because I don't see
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  Speaker 5: many other people out there whose children are serving when
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  Speaker 5: they could be out in the private sector making a
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  Speaker 5: lot more money. So I'm going to make sure that
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  Speaker 5: my son has a wedding commensurate. and honors the sacrifices
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  Speaker 5: he has made of his body, his brain, and his
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  Speaker 5: financial pocket to serve this country. It's the least I
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  Speaker 5: can do for my son. And if my son got
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  Speaker 5: engaged to a woman... whose parents might not have the
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  Speaker 5: means I have, I'm not going to be a jerk
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  Speaker 5: and say, well, you guys got to pay for the wedding.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not doing that. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 6: I think, well, first, thank you for his service. And second,
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  Speaker 6: I think it's a wonderful thing. I really do. I
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  Speaker 6: think it's extremely honorable of you to even offer that.
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  Speaker 5: Anytime I can be on my boat, it's just, I
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  Speaker 5: don't care.
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  Speaker 6: I really don't have any negative things to say about it.
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  Speaker 6: You might have a lot of things, Dave, and we
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  Speaker 6: might make fun of you a lot, but you are
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  Speaker 6: very generous.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, people don't know that about me.
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  Speaker 6: People don't know that because we always make fun of you.
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  Speaker 5: Everyone makes fun of me. Brian and Frank.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to stop doing that, Tyler.
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  Speaker 5: You're torturing me today.
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  Speaker 2: That's the whole point. I know. I know.
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  Speaker 6: But he is a very generous man. And you know what?
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  Speaker 6: For his son, I think it's wonderful, and I'm excited
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  Speaker 6: to hear about the wedding plans.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: The only complaint I had is..
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  Speaker 2: Where is Melfi when I need him or Frank when
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  Speaker 2: I need him? They could help.
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  Speaker 5: Pile on here. Frank is now Coach Cassis.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, football coach Cassis.
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  Speaker 5: His sons are athletes. I don't know when he'll be
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  Speaker 5: doing the show again.
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  Speaker 6: I'm out next week and the week after.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think so because they have football practice.
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  Speaker 6: I won't be here, remember?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you won't be here, so I'll probably be solo.
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  Speaker 6: We have Bandit, though. Bandit's sitting right next to me.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Bandit's sitting right next to me. Hi, Bandit.
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  Speaker 6: He is being so good.
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  Speaker 2: He is being good.
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  Speaker 6: He's going to be part of the radio show.
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  Speaker 5: Come here, Bandit. You want to sit by Daddy?
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  Speaker 3: Come on.
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  Speaker 4: Come on over here.
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  Speaker 6: He says, no, I'm sitting by Tally.
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  Speaker 5: Anyhow, Frank's coaching. Jimmy has some excuse that he didn't sleep.
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  Speaker 5: What are you complaining about, my producer?
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  Speaker 6: Anyways, you have Dave and I. Do we have any calls?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, do we have any calls?
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: We have two brilliant minds here waiting and.
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  Speaker 5: Chomping at the bit.
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  Speaker 2: All right, you're on the air with the attorneys. Hello.
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  Speaker 4: Is that me?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it is. Go ahead, sir. Your legal question.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, this is a legal question about a vehicle.
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  Speaker 5: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I started out. I have a truck. Wouldn't start.
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  Speaker 4: It was a... Fuel pump fuse. I ended up having
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  Speaker 4: to get it towed. I got it towed to this
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  Speaker 4: local body shop or repair shop. It was $ 300. I
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  Speaker 4: got it home two days later. It wouldn't start. I
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  Speaker 4: took it back. They said they checked everything. It was
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  Speaker 4: a starter. They put a new starter on. Okay. I
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  Speaker 4: drove it home, which I'm 10 minutes away from the shop.
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  Speaker 4: I look. No dashboards. No clock, no radio. I had
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  Speaker 4: a temperature gauge, and that's it. Now, the garage claims
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  Speaker 4: that they didn't do this. But now they've had it
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  Speaker 4: for two weeks and can't fix it. And I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if I have to go legal or what. I
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  Speaker 4: need my vehicle.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 5: Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I want
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  Speaker 5: to understand the breadth of your problem. You took your
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  Speaker 5: car to an automotive repair shop, correct?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Did they give you an estimate before they undertook the repairs?
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  Speaker 5: Did they give you an estimate of what it would run?
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  Speaker 4: No, they didn't.
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  Speaker 5: All right, so they violated the Ohio Consumer Sales Practices Act,
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  Speaker 5: and they either need to fix your car appropriately or
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  Speaker 5: you could sue them and recover your attorney fees. So
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  Speaker 5: perhaps you should go back to them and say, you
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  Speaker 5: didn't give me a quote. The law requires you to
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  Speaker 5: give me a quote. Fix my car or I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to sue you. How's that?
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  Speaker 4: Well, they've been trying to fix it for two weeks,
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  Speaker 4: he said. And he claims that it wasn't their fault.
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  Speaker 4: It was my fault. And I go 10 minutes away.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, whether it was your fault or not, they must
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  Speaker 5: give you a written estimate. Then not giving you a
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  Speaker 5: written estimate violates the law.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: All right?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 5: Good luck with that.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. A little edgy with that guy, Dave. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think I got you all worked up.
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  Speaker 5: No, I just..
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  Speaker 2: Tally, I got him on edge.
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  Speaker 5: No, I just don't like people taking advantage of other people.
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  Speaker 5: I don't like that.
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  Speaker 6: He has a really, he's had a really hard day.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, mind you, I have too. I literally didn't
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  Speaker 6: be able to pee until like 3 or 4 p.m.
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  Speaker 6: But he's had a hard day.
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  Speaker 5: This entire week.
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  Speaker 6: He didn't get a cold plunge.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't get a cold plunge.
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  Speaker 6: Let's give him a little break.
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  Speaker 5: My day this week was just a series.
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  Speaker 6: Of unfortunate events.
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  Speaker 5: Of interruptions of me attempting to do my work. That
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  Speaker 5: was it. I tried to get my emails answered, and
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  Speaker 5: all it was was interruption after interruption after interruption.
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  Speaker 6: I said, good morning, and he said, what? And I said,
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  Speaker 6: don't say what to me.
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  Speaker 5: I have to shut my door. And when I shut
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  Speaker 5: my door, inevitably I get, I got one quick question, Dave. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: answer that. I go back to doing whatever I'm doing.
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  Speaker 5: Then a client calls me on my cell phone or
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  Speaker 5: something else. It was just a frustrating week because I
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  Speaker 5: couldn't get work done because I just, as I was
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  Speaker 5: getting work done, just kept getting interrupted.
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  Speaker 6: It's a hot commodity. Everybody needs them.
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  Speaker 5: It's not that. It's just when you want to get, like,
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  Speaker 5: I wanted to write this motion. I was supposed to
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  Speaker 5: have it done like this. 10 days ago, and I
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  Speaker 5: just got it in because I literally, every time I
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  Speaker 5: tried to work on it, all I did was get interrupted,
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  Speaker 5: get off track, and I even bought an AI thing. Ron,
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  Speaker 5: you'll love this. Oh, I hate this thing. No, I
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  Speaker 5: love it.
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  Speaker 2: I know you do.
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  Speaker 5: I put it in my pocket, okay? And when I'm talking,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of times when you're talking, you'll say, all right,
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  Speaker 5: I'll get back to you on that. And then you
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: get waylaid with something else, and then you forget about it. Well,
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: this AI has the ability to create you to-do lists.
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  Speaker 5: So when I get home tonight, it'll have a big
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: list here, and it says, here are the following things
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: you said you needed to do in case you forgot.
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  Speaker 6: Is it going right now?
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: It's going right now, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, AI thing to Dave. Tell him not to what
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: tally anymore. All right.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: Fieldy, tell me not to what Tally anymore.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: I yell at him every time. I say, don't say
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: what to me.
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  Speaker 5: Say good morning.
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  Speaker 6: How are you, Tally?
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  Speaker 8: I'm great.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Tally, would you also ask the AI thing, could
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: he not take his frustrations out on Ron?
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: Could you also tell him not to take his frustrations
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: out on Ron?
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: Fieldy, could you remind me not to take my frustrations
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: out on Ron? I'm going to screenshot it and send it.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: To you, Ron.
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: Did you name it Fieldy or has it already come named?
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: That's the name of it, Fieldy. It's the best.
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: Can we rename it like Darla?
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: No, that's the name of it. It is the best
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: piece of technology I have purchased. Gertrude. I cannot tell
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: you how many times it has saved my arse. Because
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I'll get home tonight and then I'll go, oh, yeah,
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: I remember saying that. Or, oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Or, oh, yeah,
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: I need to send. Like, you'll be on the phone
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: and I'll go, all right, I'll forward you that email, Ron.
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to be so annoying now that I know
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: its name. Fieldy, remind Bandit to give treats.
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  Speaker 5: Fieldy, remind me to give Bandit treats. Believe me, if
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: you say something that it picks up as a like
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: a to-do, it'll.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Make a to-do.
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to make a very long.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: To-do list for Fieldy. Don't do that, because I could
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: swipe left or right real quick.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: So you've gone AI. Hang on another call, and then
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: we'll take some more thoughts about this AI. You're on
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  Speaker 2: the air with our attorneys. Hello.
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  Speaker 6: How can we help you?
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  Speaker 2: Line two, hello.
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  Speaker 7: Hello.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: What's your question?
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  Speaker 4: It's me.
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  Speaker 7: I have a question. I have a big maple tree
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: about a foot and a half off my driveway. And
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: it's about 3,000 or plus to.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: Cut it down.
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: But it's lifting a slab, a couple slabs on my driveway.
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  Speaker 7: And they're up about three, three and a half inches.
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  Speaker 7: And someone would trip on my driveway, mailman, a visitor, whoever.
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  Speaker 7: Can they sue me for that?
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  Speaker 5: Well, trip and fall cases we call slip and lose, okay?
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: If it's an open and obvious thing, they can't sue you.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: And here's what I suggest you do. Just put up
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: a sign that says uneven sidewalk, make sure your homeowner's
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: is paid, and don't worry about it. Okay.
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: How about if I would spray, like, some red paints?
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Anything you do that warns people that your driveway is
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: uneven helps you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: All right?
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: Sounds good.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: Just because someone gets hurt on your property does not
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: make you liable for them, okay? Just because you slip
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: and fall in a grocery store does not make the
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: grocery store liable for that. A lot of people think
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: that's the law. That is not the law, okay? And
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: trip and fall cases are the hardest cases we do.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: I can't tell you how many summary judgments I've lost
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: when people are in a restaurant and it's dark, and
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: then they're walking up steps to get to their table, right?
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: Then they go down those steps to go to the restroom,
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: and then when they go back up to their table,
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: they have to traverse the same steps, and they trip
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: not knowing the steps are there. And the judge says,
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: so let me see if I understand this, Mr. Beatrice.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: They walked up the steps.
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  Speaker 5: I think he hung up.
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  Speaker 2: No, I got him. There you go. Caller, are you there?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 4: I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Well, let me do this. Sometimes I have
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  Speaker 2: with the attorneys tonight. Hello.
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  Speaker 4: Hi.
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  Speaker 2: Hi. Hi, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a question. At my job, my employer,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I'm actually under one position. Well, once in a while
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: I have to do another position, which is actually the
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: people that do that constantly are paid more money. So
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  Speaker 3: one of the bosses told me one day, said, hey,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: you know, are you putting in that you're being an
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: operator because you can get extra money hourly? So I said, no,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know that. Thank you. So I put it in,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: and they approved it. Well, then I did it again
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: when I did that same job to get the extra
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: money while I'm doing it because basically I'm making one wage,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: and the guy next to me that's doing the same
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: job is making like several dollars more. So I put
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: the second one in, and they denied it, and they
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: said they couldn't approve it anymore. So I didn't understand
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: how you could have paid me one time extra that
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I'm doing the job as the guy next to me
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: making more money, but now all of a sudden they
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: can't approve it.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: Welcome to capitalism in America. That's how it works. Right.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't mean it bad. In Ohio, you're
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: an at-will employee. They can pay you whatever they want,
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: and they don't have to justify it. They can fire
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: you for a good reason, a bad reason, or no
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: reason whatsoever. And there really is no legal remedy. Now,
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: if you could prove that they're discriminating against you because
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: of your gender, then you might have a case. But
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: outside of that, there's not much you can do unless
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: you're in a union. That's why collective bargaining agreements, employers
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: hate them because they protect employees.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, they do, and I wish my company had a union,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: but they refuse it, and they've tried several times to unionize,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: and it did not happen.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: Even though they didn't unionize, having unions puts pressure on
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: private companies to pay people decent wages just to keep
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: the union out. So if you're working a 40-hour work week,
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: do you think you got that because... a corporation felt benevolent?
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Do you think you have a safe workplace because a
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: corporation felt benevolent? Do you think you get time and
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: a half if you work overtime because corporate America was
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: feeling extra generous? Do you think we have child labor
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: laws because corporations said, well, geez, it'd be terrible for
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: our bottom line if we could hire children and pay
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: them really bad wages? No, that all happened at the
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: end of a union, at the end of a protest,
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: at collective bargaining. And so people always want to beat
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: up unions. And I want to say this. If you're
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: working 40 hours a week and you have your weekends off,
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: you could thank a guy that stood on a picket line.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: You could thank a person that got their head bashed
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: in by union busters. If you have a safe workplace...
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: You could thank people that organized and pushed for these reforms.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: So unions aren't all bad. People want to make them bad.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: They're not bad. And the threat of a union even
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: is a good thing because then employers raise people's wages
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: to the point where they're saying, well, you don't really
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: need a union. Look what we're doing for you. But
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: the bottom line is without a collective bargaining agreement, you
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: have no job protection. And that's the main thing a
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: union does for you is it gives you job protection.
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  Speaker 6: Remedies in case something does happen like that.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: I kind of feel like it's not right. I'm doing
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: the same job as the person next to me, and
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: they're making way more money. And I'm telling you, I
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: do a better, just as good, if not better, job
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: than the guy that's getting paid all the money.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I totally hear you, and I totally understand that.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: But that is part of what capitalism is. So, you know,
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: I'm the type of guy that thinks that maybe we
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: should put some little bit of guardrails around capitalism because,
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: you know, we all have a little bit of larceny
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: in us. Greed is real in the world. And so,
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: you know, it's always a tug in a pool. That's
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: all it is. All right? I wish you well.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate the information.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: Good luck.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Have a good one.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: It's kind of the state of Ohio. What do you
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: always say, Dave, or whatever? It's an employee at Will State, right,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: if you don't have a union?
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they can fire you for a good reason, a
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: bad reason, or no reason. Now, they can't fire you
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: because of your woman, or because of religious belief, or
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: because of your ethnicity.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: Sexual orientation.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: No, sexual orientation is not protective. Not yet, at least.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: Okay, so it's really, that's, these are the prices we
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: pay to have a capitalistic society. So, you know, there's
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: always a tug and pull between regulations and Freewheeling capitalism
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: is not necessarily a good thing for everyone. It might
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: be a good thing for the top 0.01% of people,
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: but for the majority of Americans, it's not necessarily a
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: good thing. Just my three cents worth. I don't want
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: to get political. I'm just saying what I've observed in
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: the 41 years of practicing law.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. All right, so with Attorney David Beatrice,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Talley joins us as well, 330-729-9977. You've got a legal question?
• 28:35
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• 28:38
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• 29:27
  Speaker 2: a call. All right. Attorney Beatrice is the father of
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the groom. When is the wedding going to be, David?
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: That would be information. What did I tell you about information?
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: You don't want to know anything about it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: No, I really don't. I don't want to know. I
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: don't want to know. I don't want to make any decisions.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: Whenever they want to do it, it's fine. I'm being honest.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: I'm just being honest.
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: I'm psychotic. I would want to know everything.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: No, I don't want to know anything. I want to
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: go and have a good time. I want to be
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: like a guest at my son's wedding. I don't want
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: to be supervising anyone. I don't want to be telling
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: waiters what to do. I don't want to be telling
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: this person. I'm going to leave that all to my
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: wife and the decision makers. I'm not a decision maker.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: I am what they call the payor, and the people
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: putting on the wedding are the payee.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: That's literally a dream come true for a daughter-in-law, by
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: the way, or a son-in-law. Could you imagine just someone just,
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: you plan everything, and I'll just take care of it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: That's what I basically said to them.
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: I know. That's amazing. I'm super jealous.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: I don't, I mean, look, it's the least I could
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: do for my son. It's the least I could do
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: for him.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: It's a lot of love for your son.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's more than that. I mean, my son
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: could have been out killing it in the private sector.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: And instead, you know.
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: Serving our country.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: He's got TBI, PTSD, back problems, all kinds of physical
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: ailments just from his training.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: He's on his sixth combat deployment. I mean, those are
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: special kind of people. You know, the one thing that
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: unites Americans is our armed forces. It really is. I mean,
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: you could be a Democrat, you could be a Republican,
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: you could be a liberal, you could be a conservative.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: No one doesn't respect the 1% of Americans that protect
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: the 99%. And now that I was in it a
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: little bit or a lot, I know why no one
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: messes with us. I mean, our military is lethal. It
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: is lethal. And they don't play. They don't play. They
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: don't play like, let's play like we're going to bomb
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: you or let's play like we're going to kill you.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: No.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: When they're given a mission, their job is to complete
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: the mission at all costs. So kudos to those that
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: have served. And I have much respect for people that
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: serve and their families. Because they're right with them.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: All right. Now I want to shift to this. Explain
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: to our listeners, you have embraced AI in your life.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, many of us find that interesting because you
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: have a difficult time programming your television remote or doing
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: things on your computer. Emailing people. Yeah, your technology challenge.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: There's a couple of warnings I want to give people
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: about AI.
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: Okay?
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: The government now will grab your phone or your computer device,
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: and they will then look at your searches on AI
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: and then use that as evidence against you, both in
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: civil cases and criminal cases. So I tell people, if
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: you want to use AI, probably best not to use
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: your own thing if you're in some kind of a dispute.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: Just words to the wise. I have embraced AI because
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: AI is the wave of the future. There is a
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: lawyer who is investing $ 500 million to create a new
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: law firm of AI agents. So they're going to have about..
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: How much money?
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: $ 500 million.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: Just a small amount, Ron.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: It'll actually save him money. Because if you have a
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: large firm, say you have 600 lawyers... and the lowest
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: associates making $ 1. 50 to $ 200, 000. Do the math over the years.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: So what they could do with the model this lawyer
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: is developing is erase second, third, fourth, fifth, seventh, eighth-year lawyers, okay,
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: and use AI and then just use Westlaw and whatnot
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: to check. You've got to be very careful. If you
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: use AI as a lawyer. So I use Westlaw.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Could you stop? Pause for a second. How is this working?
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: You as a client would go in. Who would you
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: meet with when you're talking about?
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: You would meet with like an intake person. So who
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: it's going to replace is.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: The lawyer.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Well, not all lawyers.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: AI cannot go into court and argue your case.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: AI can give you parameters of an argument, but they
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: can't do inflection and voice. They can't make a point.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: They can't present stuff in front of a jury.
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: We're really storytelling.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: That's what we do. So the AI will replace a
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: lot of legal jobs of lawyers that do corporate work,
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: document preparation, document review.
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: Lawyers, not attorneys.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: Lawyers.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, lawyers, people who are behind the scenes. Because attorneys,
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: we literally talk for a living, and we're storytellers.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: In America, we're either known as lawyers or attorneys. But
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: trial lawyers will be affected by AI, but not as
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: much as what I call transactional lawyers. Transactional lawyers are
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: lawyers that write wills, states, corporate documents, things of that sort.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: those jobs are going to be easily replaced by AI.
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: Contract reviewers.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, contract reviewers, things of that sort.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: But you would meet with a lawyer or an intake person, say, here's.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: What I want. You meet with an intake person, say,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: here's my problem, here are my documents, and this lawyer
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: is developing a system where you get all the information,
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: you feed it into the AI, and then you interact
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: with the AI. And then the AI... We'll give you
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: what you need. Now, I have a closed-loop AI system
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: that I use on occasion, but it's really kind of amazing.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: It learns from you, and you learn from it. So
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: people think you just put things in, and that's the
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: end of it. It is not the end of it.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: It is a two-way discussion between you and the AI.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: So I was talking to the AI about something on
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: a case study, And do you know what the AI
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: said to me?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: What?
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: It said, that's not how Dave Beatrice would argue this case.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: My mind was blown away.
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: That's hilarious.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: It was blown away. I was blown away when it
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: said that to me because it was like, oh, my God,
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: it's like knowing me now. I don't like the fact
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: that it's. I like it.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: I think I like it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: I use it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: We have like a 10-step, 12-step process to calculate spell
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: support that Mark created. And instead of me doing it
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: every single time, I could feed the numbers in.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: I mean, I check it, but it makes it a
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: lot easier.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: I always check it. But I have embraced AI in
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: other parts of my life. So when you are as
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: busy as I am … I was talking on the phone,
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: and I would leave Post-it notes everywhere. So I'd come
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: in the next day, and I'd have 25 Post-it notes
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: all over my computer, on my desk.
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: And then you'd yell about them.
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: And then do this or forget. So I found an AI,
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: and there's a number of different ones, that you stick
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: in your pocket, and you train it to– pick up
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: when you need to do something as you're just talking casually.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: So you when you say in your pocket it's like
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: a heart like a.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: It looks like a little black device yeah it looks
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: like a little tile i stick it in my pocket
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: and so say i'm talking to a client say his
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: name's ron i say okay ron i'll get you those
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: documents over by tuesday In the meantime, I need you
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: to send me X, Y, and Z. Now I'm in
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: my car talking. I'm not writing notes. I'm not writing
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: a to-do list, okay? Then I have five other things
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: come up. And before what would happen was I'd forget
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: that conversation. Now I don't. The AI is able to
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: detect because I've trained it to create to-do lists for me.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: So when I go home tonight, From my day, my AI,
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: now a lot of it pick up. It's stupid stuff.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: It's not perfect, but it catches enough that I go, oh, yeah,
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: I remember. I've got to do that. And then it
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: creates a to-do list for me, and I print it out,
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: or I just go and do it. It's one of
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: the better pieces of AI I have purchased.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: And has it made a life easier for you?
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, it has made it easier. amplified my work output
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: that's the best way i.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Can so you're more productive in your and you don't
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: forget to do stuff because it reminds you.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Well i still do forget this stuff because sometimes i
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: forget to charge it hey or sometimes i'll leave it
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: in one room and i'm in another room so oh my.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: Gosh how many times because you you you lose your
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: phone like all the time how often.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: Do you lose i it's in my pocket generally all
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: the time it's in my pocket I.
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: Walk into work and his phone is sitting on his
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: front seat with his car door wide open and no
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: Dave Beechus around. And he's like, somebody call my phone.
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: Somebody call my phone.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Because I will literally be like today. I had to
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: be in Newton Falls Municipal Court. So they have Route
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: 11 blocked off. Then they route you around. And then
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: there was an accident. And it's like a parking lot.
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: we're in orange barrel season and always when you're in
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: orange barrel season there's always an accident and when there's
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: an accident it's it just turns into a parking lot
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: you're like sitting there for 30 minutes just watching the
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: minutes go by going i'm supposed to be in court
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: 20 minutes ago traffic's not moving This is not looking
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: good for the home team.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: I had three different courthouses today, and every single time,
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: there was a road closed. Every single courthouse, like on
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: the way there.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: And then we'll leave Orange Barrel season. It'll become winter season.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: Dun, dun, dun.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: So, there you go.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Somebody emailed me and wants me to ask you, what
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: device does he have? I guess they want to..
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what it's called. Exactly what it's called.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: Is it friendly?
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: What is it called?
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: I'm going to Get it up.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Like, is this something you bought on Amazon or something
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: like that?
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: There's a number of them. And I suggest that these
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: people research them. Okay.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: You obviously did, and you thought this was the best one, right? Right.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: It's your personal wearable AI. It's called F-I-E-L-D-Y. They're up
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: to the third version now. I bought the second version.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: F-I, how do you spell it?
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: F-I-E-L-D-Y. Fieldy.
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: I personally think it should be renamed so it's like
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: a little bit more funny.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Is it expensive?
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: No.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: Not for what it does for me, it's not. I mean,
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: it catches a lot of stuff you don't need.
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: You bought Frank one too, right?
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: I did, but he doesn't use it. Well, I use mine.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: Somehow Frank can remember everything. Maybe, you know, I'm having,
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: you know. A senior moment. Lawyers are in their cars
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: a lot. And when you're in your car, you're getting calls. Constantly.
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: Generally from clients who have problems. Because whether lawyers want
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: to believe this or not, we are in the service business.
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: Any lawyer that doesn't think he's in the service business
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: better rethink his profession.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Or her.
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: People want their calls returned, their emails returned.
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: 100%.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: And if you're not able to do that, they're not
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: going to be happy with you. So I always give
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: people my number. Call me if you have a problem.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: I've been doing this so long, I know when someone's
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: ready to walk off the cliff. I had a client
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: in the office this week. I go, look, you have
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: a cut in your hand that needs a stitch, and
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: you're acting like you have stage four lung cancer. And
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: I always try to orient them because I said, let me..
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: Were you talking to my daughter?
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: Well, they start devolving. All of a sudden, the next
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: thing they know, they're going to be living under the
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: Market Street Bridge, homeless, naked, and begging for food. They
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: just let their imagination take over.
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: They're in a low place.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, people never come to lawyers and go, hey...
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: My life's doing great.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: I just thought I'd share this with you.
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: It's nice to meet you, but I'm really sorry you're
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: here under these circumstances.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: But it's really nice to meet you.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I try to have some compassion because people
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: are stressed out when I'm seeing them.
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: They're going through it.
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: And so I have to obtain information from them, and
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: people always want to vomit all over me information. And
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: I say that kiddingly because I'm on a need-to-know basis.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: People are always saying they want to tell me everything.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: I go, look.
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: Look, you eat an elephant one bite at a time.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: When I need to know something, I'll ask you. I
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: have the parameters of your problem. Let's meet again in
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: a couple weeks after I get some research done and
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: see if we can't figure this out for you. In
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: the meantime, if you are at 2 o'clock in the morning,
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: and I've had this happen, and you are up and
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: you are contemplating doing something stupid, rather than doing something stupid,
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: give me a call and I'll walk you off the cliff.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: That's the service you need to provide to clients because
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: it's so stressful now. It just is. And when you're
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: like me, an old war horse, I have so many
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: scars and arrows. I'm like a Neanderthal. Some archaeologist is
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: going to find me one day and go, man, that
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: guy was through a lot of battles. Yeah, I've been
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: through a lot of battles. And, hon, it's just another case,
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: another set of problems that we have to figure out
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: and set the client in the right direction.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Dave. It's been a pleasure. It really has. Thanks, Ron.
• 44:06
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