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FT at Rays Camp: POBO Erik Neander, Pete Fairbanks, Zack Littell · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: The bullpen doesn't give you a choice, Like you show
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  Speaker 1: up every day and you're going to be in there,
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  Speaker 1: whether you want to be or not, whether your body
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  Speaker 1: wants to be, whether you feel like you're in a
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  Speaker 1: good place mentally, whatever it is, you gotta go get out.
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  Speaker 2: Eric Neander joining us right now. Eric, we appreciate the time.
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  Speaker 2: Great to have you and you tell us how impressive
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  Speaker 2: the arms look right now? And can't love the hat too,
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  Speaker 2: by the.
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  Speaker 3: Way, function over aesthetics here or ball.
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  Speaker 4: Hooty and fluffy hat with the old school raised logo
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  Speaker 4: on top. I mean we talked about Dana Brown styling.
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  Speaker 4: He might be taking it for the Florida old Florida vibe.
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  Speaker 5: He's got it right there.
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  Speaker 4: This is my salesman, looking for jobs, looking for jobs,
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  Speaker 4: especially close to the home.
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  Speaker 6: How's the staff?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, before we got to the awesome bucket hat,
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  Speaker 2: which I'm sure you can get online somewhere, how is
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  Speaker 2: the staff looking?
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  Speaker 7: Because you know, we asked to cast about this as well.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, guys that you know had some longer term
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  Speaker 2: injuries and it seems like everything's coming together where I mean,
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  Speaker 2: are you gonna potentially have a six man rotation if
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  Speaker 2: everyone's good to go for the season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're so far, so good, and we've we've had
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  Speaker 3: some staffs in camp. We can go back to twenty
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  Speaker 3: three that we were really excited about, and we never
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  Speaker 3: saw the five take one turn together. So we're being
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  Speaker 3: cautious here. Love our numbers, love what we seeen Adam McClanahan. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: Rass was going back to the rotation, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: zacly Tells, like the forgotten man in this you know
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  Speaker 3: who's the strike thrower. Has proven to be a really
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  Speaker 3: good starter himself the last year and a half. Just
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  Speaker 3: a really good group, and we'll give it time. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think we're gonna go six man. I think just
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  Speaker 3: with Cashy going through with Kyle Snyder, I think just
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  Speaker 3: going seven man pen with the way we got to
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  Speaker 3: manage mac Rass and the early going, probably not where
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  Speaker 3: we go, but we're a few weeks away from good
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  Speaker 3: health to having to make all those determinations.
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  Speaker 8: What about offense, Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: What about offensively?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I mean because you know there are names Yandi, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Brandon Wowe obviously, Junior, Kevinara. There's names, But then you see,
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  Speaker 4: like me and some other the young guys that are
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  Speaker 4: starting to look like they're coming in.
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  Speaker 5: How do you score runs that?
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  Speaker 8: As we ask, what do you say?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: You know we I last year, I think the last
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  Speaker 3: two years we've seen. We've seen a couple of things.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty three we saw. I think, what could happen if
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  Speaker 3: a group clicks and everybody starts feeling it together and
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  Speaker 3: as that snowball builds, you know, you're up at eight
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  Speaker 3: hundred runs and a lot went our way in twenty three.
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  Speaker 3: Last year we lived. I think the other extreme of that.
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  Speaker 3: I think realistically, our expectations are that probably our pitching
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  Speaker 3: staff is going to be what drives the competitiness of
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  Speaker 3: this group. Our starters are bullpen the position player side,
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  Speaker 3: we felt like our path to getting better offensively was
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  Speaker 3: the junior Cameron Arow, Jonathan Aronda down the stretch, Curtis
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  Speaker 3: me who this camp looks the way you know that's
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  Speaker 3: coming together for him right A few years younger player.
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  Speaker 8: I think he's in a really good spot.
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  Speaker 3: We're counting on some of those guys taking a step
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  Speaker 3: forward Yondy Diaz, returning Brandon law with they provide and
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  Speaker 3: have for.
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  Speaker 8: Some time and then free agency. Danny Jansen, Huss and Kim.
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  Speaker 3: Last year, our offensive premium defensive positions was pretty well underwater,
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  Speaker 3: you know, And and we thought our best path to
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  Speaker 3: improving this club was likely going to be the essential
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  Speaker 3: to some young guys on the corners of the field
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  Speaker 3: and then up the middle. If we could, you know,
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  Speaker 3: bring in a little more offense without losing our kind
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  Speaker 3: of defensive identity, that'd be the way to go. And
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  Speaker 3: I think Jansen behind the plate, he's been great nearly going.
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  Speaker 3: He's healthy, that should give us a lyft Huss and
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  Speaker 3: Kim once he's healthy, she give us a little bit
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  Speaker 3: more up the middle. Johnny Delucn center field. We're believers
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  Speaker 3: in Johnny and just the athlete continuing to.
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  Speaker 8: Get better at his mental makeup.
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  Speaker 5: On cars, it's just a j.
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  Speaker 8: That's it. That's him.
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  Speaker 3: So, you know, if we can, if we can get
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  Speaker 3: a little bit stronger up the middle and not be juggernauts,
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  Speaker 3: but just to have you know, more competitive bats up
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  Speaker 3: the middle without giving back defense. Those guys in the
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  Speaker 3: corners taking a step forward, I think we're going to
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  Speaker 3: be in a place that will be competitive and we'll
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  Speaker 3: see where goes.
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  Speaker 8: Josh Loby and healthy against a huge two.
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  Speaker 9: Talk a little bit about I know you're talking about
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  Speaker 9: players here, let's shift gears to the new ballpark. We've
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  Speaker 9: had a couple of conversations about that already, but I'm
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  Speaker 9: intrigued to hear what you think about it, the new
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  Speaker 9: amenities they have over there as well, and what are
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  Speaker 9: you hearing from the players point of view? And you know,
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  Speaker 9: there's a lot of obstacles, whether you know where everybody's
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  Speaker 9: going to stay. So talk a little bit about, you know,
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  Speaker 9: the whole organization going there, and you know the stadium
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  Speaker 9: you know fell apart as we.
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  Speaker 3: Know, yeah, yeah, and unfortunate, and you keep it in
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  Speaker 3: perspective that the two storms, that's a lot for this
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  Speaker 3: area to go through. Our players have been wonderful, absolutely
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  Speaker 3: wonderful understanding support of this offseason.
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  Speaker 8: They are patient as we were trying to figure.
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  Speaker 3: Out what we were going to do, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: how we were going to go about this season. Thankfully,
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  Speaker 3: the Yankees' house Steinbrenner, they were great to give us
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  Speaker 3: an early okay to get in there to start planning
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  Speaker 3: about it. You know, look, it's a chance to play baseball.
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  Speaker 3: Keep in perspective, it's a really nice facility. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if you guys have been up there yet, And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: see it's uh, it's not a bad place. If there
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  Speaker 3: are rain delays, there are worse places to spend them
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  Speaker 3: than that clubhouse.
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  Speaker 8: You know.
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  Speaker 3: As it is, so uh, we just got to make
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  Speaker 3: the most of it. You know, it is, it is
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  Speaker 3: what it is.
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  Speaker 8: We have expectations for the competitiveness of this group that
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  Speaker 8: are that are high.
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  Speaker 3: Want to get back to where we were the five
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  Speaker 3: years prior to last year, and don't want this facility
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  Speaker 3: to be a reason we can't get there. And I
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  Speaker 3: think this group, the guys who brought in the guys
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  Speaker 3: we have, they recognize that. Just trying to galvanize this
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  Speaker 3: group around our circumstances. And so far in camp, the
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  Speaker 3: energy has been great, the work's been great, and I
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  Speaker 3: haven't heard a single complaint. How you guys are talking
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  Speaker 3: to players, maybe they have a.
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  Speaker 8: Clue, but they've been there. Actually they're wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: Everything's been good, and you know, the players returning last
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  Speaker 3: year was a disappointment in many respects. And I think
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  Speaker 3: to get out there, Like I said, it doesn't really
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  Speaker 3: matter where we're going to play. We just got to
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  Speaker 3: go play and as long as we have a chance
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  Speaker 3: to compete, we'll be okay. And it's so far, so good.
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  Speaker 5: When is Kim back.
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  Speaker 3: Working through it, going through the shoulder progression now hittings
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  Speaker 3: as you'd expect with the throwing, shoulder much further along
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  Speaker 3: than the throwing. A chance to see him sometime in May,
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  Speaker 3: but really it's a day by day project progression on
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  Speaker 3: the throwing, and want to want to take care of him,
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  Speaker 3: want to do it right. You know, it's a it's
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  Speaker 3: a two year deal. You know, he has the you know,
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  Speaker 3: the opt in opt out decision after this year. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna we're going to make sure we take care
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  Speaker 3: of him and do it right. And but the hope
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  Speaker 3: is sometime you know, middle of May, somewhere in there,
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  Speaker 3: give or take. It really depends on, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: shortstop part of it's obviously going to take longer. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: he can fit in through the progression, not playing short
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  Speaker 3: helping out of second elsewhere sooner, but uh, somewhere in
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  Speaker 3: that mid May. You know, maybe it leaks into June
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  Speaker 3: as we go. But he's doing all so far and
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  Speaker 3: should be a big lift for us.
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  Speaker 4: Speaking of shoulders, Junior, Camonaro. He had one of the
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  Speaker 4: most epic home runs that we have ever seen. Were
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  Speaker 4: you worried that he was going to hurt his shoulder
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  Speaker 4: when he bat flipped the ball the bat to the moon?
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  Speaker 5: I mean that was was Have you ever seen a
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  Speaker 5: crazy year?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he high five the concession stand workers, he
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  Speaker 4: stopped and made barbecue at second base.
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  Speaker 8: And then he you know, I when he hit it.
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  Speaker 3: I watched the clip no less than five times trying
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  Speaker 3: to figure out where the ball landed. And I kept
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  Speaker 3: playing it back from the time the ball hit and
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  Speaker 3: came down back to the pitch that over and over,
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  Speaker 3: and I realized the clip was like two minutes long,
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  Speaker 3: and then I watched the rest of it. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 3: midding six seconds the batlands, you know, at two minutes
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  Speaker 3: and eighteen seconds, he's crossed at home plate. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it was it was something, but I you know, Junior,
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  Speaker 3: it was important for us to get him up last
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  Speaker 3: year to make sure and not just for a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: but have enough time to take feedback into the offseason
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  Speaker 3: about what the big leagues are about.
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  Speaker 8: He's twenty one.
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  Speaker 3: He has all the expectations in the world on him.
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  Speaker 3: He has them on himself. He believes in himself, but
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  Speaker 3: you got to live it right. You need real feedback,
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  Speaker 3: I think to make this offseason purposeful, and he got
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  Speaker 3: that last year. He went in this offseason where a
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  Speaker 3: lot of it was about establishing work ethic, establishing routines,
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  Speaker 3: not just for twenty twenty five, but if you want
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  Speaker 3: to play in the big leagues for ten fifteen years,
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  Speaker 3: taking care of yourself and putting the work.
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  Speaker 8: It's now right and it's building those habits. He did
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  Speaker 8: a great job of that.
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  Speaker 3: Albert Pooles puts a little pressure on a play winner ball.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard to say no to that great mentor that
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  Speaker 3: Albert was to him. For him to get that positive
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  Speaker 3: feedback to the work he put in, just that winner
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  Speaker 3: was probably the best thing that could have happened for him,
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  Speaker 3: from building those relationships with Albert, having that moment to
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  Speaker 3: see the work he put in payoff that quickly.
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  Speaker 8: We've seen him camp. You know, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 8: days where he's the first one here.
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  Speaker 3: He's getting in the weight room early, doing all the
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  Speaker 3: things that when you have someone that talented, you want
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  Speaker 3: to see that work ethic behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 8: Match seen that.
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  Speaker 3: We've seen that maturity and you want to temper expectations
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  Speaker 3: for him. But he's a good one at the same time, and.
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  Speaker 5: We're going to get him on.
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  Speaker 4: Right after his home run, he wanted to know why
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  Speaker 4: you guys wouldnt let him play in the Caribbean World Series.
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  Speaker 8: He's not wrong, he's not wrong. He hopefully he's got
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  Speaker 8: a few more at him.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, for sure, especially in Tampa.
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  Speaker 4: There you go exactly right, exactly, Yandi, Diaz's kind of
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  Speaker 4: become a leader of your team. Had some interesting comments
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  Speaker 4: not long ago. Any thoughts on what he said. Because
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  Speaker 4: a lot of guys come and go through the race organization,
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  Speaker 4: you guys do a great job developing guys.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you're in the situation you're in as the race,
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  Speaker 5: any thoughts on what he said.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, from a players side, it's nice to your
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  Speaker 4: players say this, yeah, But at the same time, I'm
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  Speaker 4: sure from a president of baseball you're like, oh, man.
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  Speaker 8: I wish you know, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know anyone wants to say anything about anybody.
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  Speaker 3: I'm kind of they it's up to you. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you take what comes with it and whatever that might be.
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  Speaker 3: That's fine, I think, Yandy, we've seen, unbelieve aivable growth
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  Speaker 3: in Yandi from the time we acquired him at nineteen
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  Speaker 3: to where he is now. Just the trust, the relationship
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  Speaker 3: with the organization, with his teammates, his openness. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I can't even beginning to put myself in Yondi's shoes
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  Speaker 3: and his life experiences to that point. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's as beloved of a teammate as we have here.
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  Speaker 3: And each passing year there's more trust, there's more comfort,
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  Speaker 3: there's more relationship, and look to us publicly ideally, you know,
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  Speaker 3: most of the time things are private, but in this case,
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  Speaker 3: you know, whatever I think, we want to know what our.
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  Speaker 8: Players are thinking.
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  Speaker 3: This is about players, you know, first and foremost, it's
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  Speaker 3: you know, appreciate you having me on it.
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  Speaker 6: I assume that the.
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  Speaker 3: Viewership will go down for a little bit, now back
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  Speaker 3: up when you get players back, but you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: just look, it's about players.
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  Speaker 8: It's trying to put them in the best environment to
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  Speaker 8: be happy.
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  Speaker 3: You know, our circumstances here, you you're.
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  Speaker 8: Around each other every day.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the relationships, the camaraderie is something that's really important.
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, we didn't have the year we
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  Speaker 3: wanted to last year, and as you know, when that happens,
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's less that people are happy about. But
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  Speaker 3: we're okay, you know, but just trying to continue to
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  Speaker 3: build that environment.
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  Speaker 4: Is that the way though, what you said about we
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  Speaker 4: want people to be themselves, say what they want, but
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  Speaker 4: then you have to deal with the consequences, right, so
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  Speaker 4: you can go out and play. And I played against
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  Speaker 4: the Rais when Madden was there and even before that,
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  Speaker 4: and there was always a little bit of chirpiness from
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  Speaker 4: the race.
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  Speaker 5: Were the underdog.
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  Speaker 8: We can't win.
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  Speaker 5: You guys went out one. So is that the Rays
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  Speaker 5: when we had Kevin Cash in here. And Kevin Cash
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  Speaker 5: is a great communicator.
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  Speaker 4: He lets people be Every player used to Cash is like,
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  Speaker 4: oh Cash, lets us be ourselves. People come over here
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  Speaker 4: from different Oh I thrive because I'm myself? Is that
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  Speaker 4: kind of the Rais thing is, hey, go be yourself,
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  Speaker 4: but listen, there's consequences when you make mistakes. But go
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  Speaker 4: do yourself and figure this out as yourself.
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  Speaker 8: Without without question.
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  Speaker 3: And Cash he is as good as it gets to
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  Speaker 3: navigate that you give people say, look it with us.
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  Speaker 3: Our teams are often younger, less experienced, or the players
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  Speaker 3: if they're a little deep in their career, they're coming
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  Speaker 3: off of.
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  Speaker 8: An injury, they're coming.
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  Speaker 3: Off being overlooks somewhere else, right, And you know, I
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  Speaker 3: think for us to pair with that, you're trying to
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  Speaker 3: create an environment where they so much of this is confidence, right,
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  Speaker 3: it's trying to help them either if you're young and
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  Speaker 3: you haven't done it yet, believe you belong you know,
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  Speaker 3: and you can compete here and excel here. And if
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  Speaker 3: you're a player that's been you know, showed up and
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  Speaker 3: spit out somewhere else, that hey, no, I can do
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  Speaker 3: this again, right, And you find the companies so much
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  Speaker 3: is confidence, right.
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  Speaker 8: You have to have the confidence you can go out
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  Speaker 8: and compete.
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  Speaker 3: And everybody has different levels of that inside of them.
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  Speaker 3: But I think cash is as good as I see it.
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  Speaker 3: Just making sure if you're going out there and we
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  Speaker 3: think you're part of our group.
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  Speaker 8: One. We've been fortunate to win a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Games for a long time, you know, going back to
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  Speaker 3: eight third most wins in baseball in the regular season,
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  Speaker 3: So that's that's.
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  Speaker 8: There, that's there, right.
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  Speaker 3: And then and then with that it's like, all right, well,
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  Speaker 3: if they've won that many games, and I'm here. They
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  Speaker 3: must see something to me, and it's just working to
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  Speaker 3: make sure you find any way you can to bring
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  Speaker 3: that out of them. But at the same time, you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's got to be standards and you've got to go
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  Speaker 3: about your work a certain way within that, but there
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  Speaker 3: is a lot of freedom, and you just try to
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  Speaker 3: get guys comfortable to what another. As long as they
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  Speaker 3: take care of one another, you know, be a good teammate.
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  Speaker 8: We can go from there.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Eric, I want to ask about this because you know,
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  Speaker 2: we have an ad you on to ask this question.
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  Speaker 2: We get it all the time, and I'm sure you've
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  Speaker 2: been asked it a million times. But for our crowd,
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  Speaker 2: because we also have a lot of either you know,
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  Speaker 2: players that played in college or pros but didn't make
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  Speaker 2: it and didn't make a full career out of it,
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  Speaker 2: they want to know how to get involved in a
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  Speaker 2: front office. You went from intern all the way to
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  Speaker 2: your role obviously now for a long time.
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  Speaker 7: How do you do it? What's the advice?
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  Speaker 2: Because it's it's easier for you to tell the story
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  Speaker 2: then for you know, Chris Young, Craig Breslow, Etsextra.
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  Speaker 7: They they played in the big leagues, you did not
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  Speaker 7: what you got.
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  Speaker 3: They played, and they, if I'm not mistaken, Princeton and
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  Speaker 3: Yale is academically the perception is superior to a I
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  Speaker 3: don't We'll call it Virginia Tech.
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  Speaker 5: Perhaps you know it.
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  Speaker 8: Is, but look I don't know. I yeah, I got
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  Speaker 8: in this. I grew up. I loved the game. I
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  Speaker 8: got hurt. I couldn't play any longer. It probably wouldn't
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  Speaker 8: have gone my past college one way or the other.
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  Speaker 8: So in a way it probably helped me out. You know.
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: I'd really wanted to coach, and that didn't open to
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: college level, you know. And then started to learn more
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: about the pro side, and really, for me, it was
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: I loved the game. As I learned more about the
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: major league side, front office, you know, that line of
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: work and what was behind it, the subject matter and
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: kind of the intellectual stimulation got me excited about the
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: possibility of it.
• 14:32
  Speaker 8: Then I just I chased it. You know, when I
• 14:34
  Speaker 8: was in my early twenties, I didn't have anything in
• 14:37
  Speaker 8: my resume that stood out. I just knocked on enough doors,
• 14:40
  Speaker 8: and after a few failed attempts, the race finally brought
• 14:43
  Speaker 8: me in.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: And Andrew Freeman, I think five months after I was
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: on the job at an internity talked to me, and
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: thankfully a few months after that.
• 14:50
  Speaker 8: He hired me. But really I loved the game.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: I didn't get too caught up in how other people
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: went about it. I just wanted to have the opportunity
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: to make a careerut of something I was really passionate about,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: and then worked as hard as I could to make
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: it possible and do anything and everything with the raise
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: that how can I make someone else's job easier?
• 15:10
  Speaker 8: How can I make someone.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: Else's life easier, a player, a staff member, whatever it
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: would be, And I think, really to this day, I
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: try to do it with the that same attitude. The
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: best advice I got you better love the game. And
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: it's not about a job, not about a title. You
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: do it because you love it. It's not about the
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: hours of the money. And you know some of us
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: are lucky enough where it turns into.
• 15:35
  Speaker 8: More than that, But you know, I don't know.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: You gotta be yourself. I did it my own way,
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: and I couldn't be Breslow. He's way smart and I
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: am Chris young and more accomplish as a player, more
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: accomplished academically.
• 15:47
  Speaker 8: I had to be.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Okay with a science and nutrition food. I can't even
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: remember my degree out of Virginia Tech without playing experience
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: past high school and figure out how to show people
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: I could make their lives easier.
• 15:59
  Speaker 8: And thank you.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: I've had one organization that's seen that, and I suppose
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: I fooled the right people ever since.
• 16:07
  Speaker 9: Interesting, very very nice, well said. Now my last question
• 16:11
  Speaker 9: is this. It's kind of different too as well. I'm
• 16:13
  Speaker 9: curious you see a big name like sho Heo Tani
• 16:16
  Speaker 9: or Juan Soto out on the free agent market. Now
• 16:20
  Speaker 9: you're president, You're in talks with some people. You're trying
• 16:23
  Speaker 9: to make your team as best as possible. What are
• 16:26
  Speaker 9: what are the talks are you?
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: Guys?
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 16:27
  Speaker 9: Are you always in on every single player? I know
• 16:30
  Speaker 9: the answer you might get, well, we're looking for a
• 16:32
  Speaker 9: particular player. But even at that point with a player
• 16:35
  Speaker 9: of that stature, don't you and I don't want to
• 16:38
  Speaker 9: speak for you, but don't you have to try and
• 16:40
  Speaker 9: put your best foot forward to get a guy like that?
• 16:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a great.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: You kind of handicap where you have a chance for overlap. Right,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Danny Jansen, Hasse and Kim We're too early in the offseason,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: we thought, all right, these are two that if things
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: break a certain way, if we show them some love
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: and appreciation.
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: And we keep knocking on the door, maybe we can
• 17:01
  Speaker 8: line up.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: But to your point, if it's a you know, the
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: free agents, the you know, trades, whatever it may be,
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I think, the way we operate, you got to you
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: got to try, right, like it's not.
• 17:16
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: I think anytime we're transacting, anytime we're bringing players, you
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: have to, you know, to know what match makes the
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: most sense to me. You've got to know the player
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: universe like an inside out, right.
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: You got to know players top to bottom. You got
• 17:31
  Speaker 8: to know how they line up.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: And before you know this particular deal makes sense, you
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: got to know that there's fifteen over here that don't.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: And a lot of our work ninety five percent of
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: the effort we put into two pursuits largely never becomes
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: public because it doesn't line up. But that's how you
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: figure out what lines up best. So you know, to
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: your point, yeah, there's there's probably a few that you
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: know are enough out of reach that you want to
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: work smarter, you know a little bit.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: But no, I don't know this but Freeman, a judge
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: or two names you guys were rumored.
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: To being old.
• 18:05
  Speaker 8: Look, you know, without getting any particular player, you got
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: to you have to try it right.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: And if you think there's even a one percent chance
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: of something happening to me, you know, it's my job description,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: it's our duty to to explore it right and and
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: not assume anything is a know because you know, all
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: it takes is one yes somewhere amongst a thousand no's.
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: And that's how we got to do our job right.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: And if our payroll, the disparities, the revenues, all that
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: stuff like, you can't you can't wait to raise the
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: white flag too early virtually anything, And yeah, that's how
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: we do it. And then you can't be lazy about it.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: You just got to keep going and going and going,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: and over time good things happen.
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: So that's that's our approach.
• 18:48
  Speaker 10: And yeah, I.
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: Don't I don't mind being told me a thousand times.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: We can eventually get a yes in there at some
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: point and we'll keep going before.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: We let you go.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Last one here, all your guys left, Freedman, I mean
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: everyone wants to do it. Yeah, how Tampa, Every every
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: team is like, we want to do it. So are
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: you going to be a right for life?
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: I'm trying.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I've been here a long time, two thousand and seven.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: They've been They've been good to me, you know, I
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: talked about it earlier. To me, I love the game.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: It's the jealous, know what, like Andrew Friedman has because
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: he's unlimited payroll. I just think if you had an
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: unlimited payroll in Tampa and you're like, oh, we want show,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: oh Freddy Moki.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: Sazaki just for fun.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a different world. It's a different world. I
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: remind him of how much he's changed, you know. But
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: look the way I see it, Like I said, like,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: love love the game. Couldn't be more grateful for the
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: way I've been treated here. I couldn't be more grateful for,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: you know, the a ton of we have to go
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: out there and run this thing the way that we
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: think we need to run it to have a chance
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: to compete succeed, And sometimes you get a little weird
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: to do that. But somehow, some way, you got to
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: take some shots to figure out how to get ground.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: That Kevin Cash, you know, his year was eleven. I
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: think he's been on this like couldn't have a better
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: partner from a manager standpoint, Like, the most important thing
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: is I believe we can win here, right Like, and
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: there is a stubborn belief. The payroll, you get it,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: talked about it like, yeah, it is what it is,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: and they got us in the World Series and twenty
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: But I believe we can win here. And as long
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: as that stubborn belief is there, then yeah, what might
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: not be there in terms of the payroll and some
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: of the revenues and how that stuff goes, That is
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: what it is.
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: But I think there's a lot of other strengths to
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: work in here, and a lot.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Of it's the people, right, And we talk about people
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: that have come and gone from this organization. This if
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I walked out this door and disappeared from this organization,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: they'd still be good because there's so many great people
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: that are here and it's a blast to work with them.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: And look, it's I don't know, I not all wins
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: are created equal in the sense, right.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: Called Freeman and is like listen, I made for the
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: World Series with.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: This and we almost like I said, he's changed, you know, yeah,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: he's he's a very good friend of mine. But I
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: you know, it's winning here and finding a way and
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I you.
• 21:10
  Speaker 8: Know, we've won a lot of regular season games. I
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: get it. We got to figure out a way to,
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: you know, to win that last game.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: And as long as that beliefs here that we can
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: do that and the talent we have, the talent underneath,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: both now and later, it feels very good about our chances.
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: To continue to be competitive.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: I love nothing more than this is my family's home,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: is our community, and I would love nothing more than
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: to find.
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: A way to to win that last game here.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: And you know, each win the amount you told you
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: can't win here you can't do it, or it's over
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: this or that, each win along the way you'd ever
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: taken for granted, they're probably a little bit more satisfying. Andrew,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: he's expected to win one hundred every year now, you know,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: and he's he's raised the bar, and good for him.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: He's unbelievable at what he does, you know. But winning
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: it here, you.
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: Know, would mean more than winning it every anywhere else,
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: you know.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Because of the people I work for, people I work with,
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: and just the stubborn desire to try to see that
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: through as long as we can.
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: Eric This was awesome.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Thank you for the insight and obviously just for fans
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: to be able to hear someone like you. I mean,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: you guys do it right there, just talking like a person.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: That's what people want to hear, you know, especially on
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: the show like this. So thanks for joining us, and
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: again compliments on the bucket hat.
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: People are going to check it out. It's going to
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: get some attention that we've.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Got one of the best interviews in baseball bag with
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: his live on foul Territory. Obviously the audience gets to
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: see him a lot too. The TV audience gets the
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: show all over the state.
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: What's wrong? What's wrong? Why?
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: Balls?
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: All over the place?
• 22:34
  Speaker 10: They were? They were closer than that. There was only one.
• 22:37
  Speaker 11: There was only one and it was above the plate.
• 22:40
  Speaker 10: It was just very above the play.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Your breakdowns after outings in general are always just spot on,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: and as you know, Pete, super appreciated because people just
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: want to hear real human beings speaking after a game.
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: So what do you got for us?
• 22:57
  Speaker 11: Somebody told me I was terrible yesterday, so I gave
• 22:59
  Speaker 11: him a thumbs up up as I was walking off
• 23:01
  Speaker 11: the mound. I'd like to see him get out there
• 23:03
  Speaker 11: and walk for that might be within his capabilities, because
• 23:06
  Speaker 11: it was.
• 23:06
  Speaker 10: Certainly with my mind.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: It was chilly yesterday.
• 23:11
  Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, my hands in my hand were my
• 23:13
  Speaker 11: hand was good the strike zone, and I just.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: Did you challenge it?
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: We challenged. We were one for one, and then I
• 23:19
  Speaker 10: went in and I asked, was I hate? Could I
• 23:20
  Speaker 10: have challenge anymore?
• 23:21
  Speaker 11: He was like, yeah, right, so probably probably should have
• 23:27
  Speaker 11: been tapping the head a little bit more than I was.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Closer again for the Rais this year, everyone, every player
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: that gets to your status and your service time, the
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: first question is are you going to finish the year
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: with the Rais?
• 23:40
  Speaker 10: I sure, hope. So I think based on uh, based
• 23:46
  Speaker 10: on what I'm hearing.
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: You know, let's win some ball games, and I think
• 23:49
  Speaker 11: everything will work out the way it's the way it's
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: meant to work out.
• 23:52
  Speaker 10: You know, whether that's me here or me elsewhere. You know.
• 23:56
  Speaker 11: I uh was trying to trying to go put some
• 23:58
  Speaker 11: put some counting stats into column and let the chips
• 24:01
  Speaker 11: fall where they do.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Pete, did you have any concerns about that last year
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: when the Raids were making moves that you might have
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: to be moving.
• 24:10
  Speaker 10: To Eric is?
• 24:13
  Speaker 11: Uh, He's fantastic. He is very, very transparent, so I wasn't.
• 24:18
  Speaker 10: I wasn't too worried.
• 24:19
  Speaker 11: There was a day that I came in from stretch
• 24:22
  Speaker 11: and my phone was kind of blowing up. I'm like, interesting,
• 24:26
  Speaker 11: I've got a test from Aaron, my agent. He's like,
• 24:28
  Speaker 11: you are not getting traded. I'm like why and he's like, yeah,
• 24:32
  Speaker 11: somebody from some New Jersey paper is rolling with it
• 24:34
  Speaker 11: on Twitter. And I was like, great. Talk to Eric
• 24:38
  Speaker 11: when I saw him the clubs. He's like, hey, you're
• 24:39
  Speaker 11: not going anywhere. I will be sure to let you
• 24:42
  Speaker 11: know it will not be some beat guy from whatever
• 24:45
  Speaker 11: paper this is that does And I was like, perfect,
• 24:48
  Speaker 11: how nice that though it's the best, right, yeah, I
• 24:52
  Speaker 11: mean it makes it makes it so easy on us
• 24:54
  Speaker 11: to just go do what we're supposed to do, right,
• 24:55
  Speaker 11: go out there.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: So if you I want to know, is what if
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: you what if he came to you said hey, in
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: the next week, you can be traded at any moment.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: Do you go home and like pack up your stuff?
• 25:07
  Speaker 11: Now I necessarily probably wouldn't be the one packing, but
• 25:09
  Speaker 11: my wife probably would start packing immediately.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Stress level through the room, stress level through the room
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: that you're doing something wrong, Yeah, telling me I have
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: too much stuff, et cetera, exactly.
• 25:19
  Speaker 11: You know, I think, honestly, I don't think that would
• 25:22
  Speaker 11: be my first I don't think our first thing would
• 25:23
  Speaker 11: be the pack. I think it would be to start
• 25:26
  Speaker 11: calling schools in Saint Louis and be like, hey, we
• 25:29
  Speaker 11: got to get a spot for two kids coming up,
• 25:33
  Speaker 11: since that'll probably be where we end up when it's
• 25:35
  Speaker 11: all said and done. But yeah, you know, there'll be
• 25:36
  Speaker 11: there'll be some calls. But when you you know, I
• 25:40
  Speaker 11: think signing the extension with them and kind of understanding
• 25:46
  Speaker 11: how you know, Eric and Company has to operate and
• 25:51
  Speaker 11: given you know, everything that that goes on here, that's
• 25:54
  Speaker 11: something that I was very okay with, something that I had,
• 25:57
  Speaker 11: you know, accepted and knew as part of you know,
• 26:01
  Speaker 11: signing the extension.
• 26:03
  Speaker 10: And so then it becomes something that I don't necessarily
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: have to worry about in my day to day. It
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: becomes hey, I'm.
• 26:08
  Speaker 11: Gonna go pitch. I'm gonna work on what I need
• 26:09
  Speaker 11: to work on. They'll be transparent, they'll let me know
• 26:12
  Speaker 11: if and when it happens, and we just go from there.
• 26:15
  Speaker 11: It's not something that's you know, it's like what they
• 26:17
  Speaker 11: call it an economics like a sunk cost. It is
• 26:19
  Speaker 11: what it is, right, we don't have to go continue
• 26:21
  Speaker 11: to worry about it, you know, more so than just
• 26:23
  Speaker 11: accepting that it, you know, can happen.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: As a veteran, now you're a raised veteran.
• 26:28
  Speaker 10: I'm very old in our clubhouse, yes, and I'm only
• 26:31
  Speaker 10: thirty one.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: That is like ancient race. But you saw, you saw
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Yandi's comments right about. You've seen a lot of turnover here. Yes,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: in the rays, Yanni made some comments about some guys
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: your thoughts on I mean what he said, in the
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: fact that Yandi is speaking out and saying, hey, we're
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: going to try and do some stuff a little bit
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: different here.
• 26:50
  Speaker 11: Yeah, well good, I know the close there, because I
• 26:53
  Speaker 11: don't know if I've ever heard a good Yandi quote.
• 26:55
  Speaker 10: Besides those, Look, I think that there's there's an aspect to.
• 27:02
  Speaker 11: Allowing the freedom to be yourself but also operating within
• 27:06
  Speaker 11: a greater hierarchy of structure. And I think you know,
• 27:11
  Speaker 11: when that pendulum swings right, you know, science says it
• 27:16
  Speaker 11: can't get past this certain point of whatever level of freedom,
• 27:21
  Speaker 11: but you know, somehow somebody gave it an extra boost
• 27:23
  Speaker 11: in the middle.
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: We might have sworn too far in either way.
• 27:26
  Speaker 11: And you know, I think that there's something to be
• 27:29
  Speaker 11: said for cohesion, you know, and feeling like you're part
• 27:33
  Speaker 11: of of the front as well as the back.
• 27:36
  Speaker 12: Okay, that was that was an interesting way to say
• 27:39
  Speaker 12: what I think we got out of what you said. Yeah,
• 27:42
  Speaker 12: I mean certain people need to kind of control I think, well,
• 27:45
  Speaker 12: which is fine. It's everybody, right, It's not. It's not
• 27:48
  Speaker 12: certain people right. It's not like you can point fingers
• 27:51
  Speaker 12: and be.
• 27:51
  Speaker 11: Like, oh, well, you know you've done this, that and
• 27:53
  Speaker 11: the other without being like, oh well, you know, I
• 27:56
  Speaker 11: do some pretty individual ship too.
• 27:58
  Speaker 10: Like it's not you know, it's just kind of the
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: nature of the game face walked for. You know. If
• 28:06
  Speaker 10: I could blame cash for it, I would, but I can't.
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: All right, Pete, I got one for it.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: You're on the executive sub committee now right with the
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Players Association.
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: I was.
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: I ran a wonderful campaign and I am now a
• 28:23
  Speaker 11: subcommittee member.
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: Congratulations to you, mister, thank you.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, then give me something good.
• 28:31
  Speaker 10: We did have a meeting today and.
• 28:35
  Speaker 11: To quote an iconic Matthew McConaughey line in which he
• 28:40
  Speaker 11: shows up for like six minutes and steals the movie.
• 28:44
  Speaker 11: It was very you know, above the years, acidic mustard
• 28:46
  Speaker 11: gas type ship.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: You know, I don't know what you're talking about, but
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: just hear you say.
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: That was.
• 28:54
  Speaker 10: Before he starts thumping his chest. Oh yeah, he goes
• 28:57
  Speaker 10: up for five minutes and he steals it. He does
• 29:00
  Speaker 10: still right, you know, talked about the state of the Union.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 29:05
  Speaker 11: For some it happens every four years, well every year,
• 29:08
  Speaker 11: but you only think about every four years. For us,
• 29:11
  Speaker 11: it's like spring training.
• 29:12
  Speaker 10: You know, President comes in, gives you the address, and
• 29:16
  Speaker 10: you know where you stand and what you gotta you know,
• 29:18
  Speaker 10: be mindful of coming up.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: So Pete, just give me one thing that you want
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: to see change or one thing that you're you know
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: you're working on being on that committee, Like why you're there?
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: Give me something?
• 29:29
  Speaker 10: None?
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: What is important?
• 29:32
  Speaker 10: I'm there because I think.
• 29:35
  Speaker 11: You know that we the people that you know, we're
• 29:38
  Speaker 11: fortunate enough to to be able to serve on player
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: leadership and attempt to you know, continue to better the
• 29:49
  Speaker 11: game and move it in the right direction. I think
• 29:51
  Speaker 11: that that, you know, is something that had kind of,
• 29:55
  Speaker 11: you know, been on my mind, and I think that
• 29:58
  Speaker 11: if we can it in whatever way, shape or form better.
• 30:01
  Speaker 10: Than we found it. I think that that's something that
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: you know, we we should do. And you know there's
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: been some some.
• 30:11
  Speaker 11: I won't call it in cyndiary, but it could be
• 30:13
  Speaker 11: in cndiary, you know, rhetoric surrounding twenty six and we
• 30:18
  Speaker 11: just started twenty five. So you know, I think that
• 30:21
  Speaker 11: you know where it's going to be a very interesting spot,
• 30:25
  Speaker 11: you know, in the coming years on both sides, and
• 30:27
  Speaker 11: hopefully you know, we can.
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: Move the game then the direction that needs to be moved.
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: What is one change that you personally like or has
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: always been on your mind, or something that you're like, Man,
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: you know this would make the game better. Oh, I
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: see you smiling already, So go ahead. I'll let you talk.
• 30:45
  Speaker 11: Yeah, if I, if I, I think we should just
• 30:49
  Speaker 11: accept a very very lax pitch clock, much like they
• 30:54
  Speaker 11: do in the NCAA, where it's like it's ticking in
• 30:56
  Speaker 11: the back but nobody ever pays attention to it. That's
• 30:59
  Speaker 11: would be if I could just there's a pitchlock, but
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: it's not a real pitchlock.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: You know, he pictures, I tell you what pictures. Listen,
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: they get what you know? You're a closer, so you
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: have to pitch more. But starters and Zach and here
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: as I can tell, and he's like, oh man, I
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: got to pitch every fifth day.
• 31:16
  Speaker 10: It's real.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: You guys are tired. Yeah, he's tired.
• 31:19
  Speaker 11: Well, if you're playing seventy two holes in between your.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: Pitch nineteen, maybe once every third.
• 31:25
  Speaker 10: Day, well hopefully more than that.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: True, but sometimes you go a couple of days you
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: don't have to pitch.
• 31:29
  Speaker 11: Yeah, there was nineteen where I'm not complaining about the
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: cover first.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: No, it's an important thing to do. I'm just saying, Yeah, complaining.
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: Doesn't always happen, but that's important.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: Think about the poor catcher when you throw it off
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: the back stuff, I gotta go chase.
• 31:45
  Speaker 11: Hey, I'm not going to diminish the hard work and
• 31:48
  Speaker 11: effort that you guys are subjected to, especially when I'm
• 31:51
  Speaker 11: bouncing heaters.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, if you spiking heater, that's your fault. You can't
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: help you with that one.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: That's your ful.
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: Well, I'll say is this. We always love having you on.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Just keep being you because you know baseball needs more
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: attention and we want to hear about the good the
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: bad betweens. So thanks, Pete always for being one of
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: the best interviews in the game. So you've got Zach
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: lttel over at Race Camp Race Pitcher joining us right now.
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: Zach, you having fun of camp.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been good. It's been good.
• 32:16
  Speaker 10: It's fine.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: By Yeah, thanks for churning pict bro, I don't do
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: anything that picture.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: You picture every.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: You're like, oh, I gotta play golf today, I get fishing.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Oh it's ten thirty, man. You know, Tom, you remember
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: those days time as a position player, You're like, oh,
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: it's ten o'clock.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: I'm so I'm gonna go play golf at eleven.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'm just kidding. But no, I mean,
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: like I don't know.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: For a picture, it's like, once I get to three innings,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I kind of feel like it's good to go, you
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, what's the differen between three and.
• 32:54
  Speaker 10: Six and I don't know.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Tell me.
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: No, I think, uh, you know, the build up, all
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: normal stuff.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I think early in campus, like getting your body back
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: into it, you know how it is the routine.
• 33:04
  Speaker 10: Of it all.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think once you get to that three inning,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: four inning threshold for me, which I got, I have
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: four innings tomorrow. Sody four already kind of fine by
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: but yeah, after that, it's just you know, getting in
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: the routine of a five day and being ready to go.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Your first time, first time you started in spring.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the next day of how sore are you?
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I think, like the first bullpen is the worst one,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: but you throw you throw like ten or twelve bullpens
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: before you get here, right, But then it's like the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: intensity picks up.
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: You know, you got people.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Around, what though your legs your arm sore?
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I think it's my arm, you know, like you you
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: spend all season getting your body right, and then like
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I'm in a good place and you
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: get here and you want to.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: Like put on a little show.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I think that first one and you come out of it,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: you're like, I don't know.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: I don't think I'm supposed to be storing these spots,
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: you know, But.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: No, that first one, I think the first bullpen, first
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: live live VP is kind of like you're pretty sore.
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: And then after that it's like the normal stuff.
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: Zach.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Last year was your first full season as a starter
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: right in the bigs.
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, so what did you learn.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I know you had a few issues late in the
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: year obviously, I think it was the shoulder, right, So
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: what did you learn from it? And how do you
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: feel like in year two you can thrive that way?
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you learn just about Like the routino
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: that like what those four days in between looks like,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: you know, going out there and pitchings? Going out there
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: and pitching whether you're in the bullpen or or starting,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: but being would like talk to the guys's been doing it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: We had Jack Efflyn, even Aaron Sovali like those guys
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: like what what are those four days in between your
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: starts look like?
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: What are your eating? What are you looking at?
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Looking like you're doing in the training room, in the
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: weight room, those types of things, because you know at
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: the bullpen you're just kind of ready every night. So
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: that was a big adjustment, like knowing you're going to
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: get four days and what are you going to do
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: to put yourself in the best spot on that fifth day?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: And now, like I think one thing that came out
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: of last year, especially after that late August early September
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: three weeks stretches, you know, saving some.
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: Bullets early on as far as what.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Are we doing in the weight room or are we
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: getting crushed in the training room where it's going to
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: have that effect in September. What are we putting in
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: our body early in the year. So this year I'm
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: just looking forward to kind of building on that stuff.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Okay, how much more prepared are you this year after
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: doing it for a full year?
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: I made twenty nine starts Yeah last year, So how
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: much more prepared after doing it for twenty nine starts
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: for your second basically full year as a starter?
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: I think just like no one, what to expect more
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: than anything.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Last year, I came into it like I starred in
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: the minor leagues, but I was twenty and twenty one
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: years old and everything felt good every day, you know,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: So knowing what to expect coming out of stars, knowing
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: what to expect, and the confidence that goes with it
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: of like all my days when I don't feel great,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: like no one, you can still go out there and
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: get out.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: So having a.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Good plan of what I want to do and really
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: knowing you know what to expect, It's just the biggest thing.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I keep saying it.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: But are you a lifter?
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: I am a Yeah. I like to lift two days.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Explain the people out there that don't know what a
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: starter does on their five day routine. Some guys throw
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: one bullpen, some guys so two bullpens. Some guys run
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: the day after they start. Some guys like to lift
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: for multiple days after they start. What's your routine between,
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: say you start Monday and then you're starting Saturday or Sunday.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many ways to do it too, and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: so many guys, And that's kind of what I had
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: to nail down. But I'm a day three bullpen guy,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: so like you get four days in between starts, you
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: build everything out around that bullpen day. Kind of you
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: obviously want to feel pretty good, especially if you're trying
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: to get a good amount of work in. You're in
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: a good place, you might throw ten pitches. If you're
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: not in a great place, you might throw thirty five.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: But I build my workouts around that, so day after
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I use my long running day, my big lift.
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: Day, quote unquote flush day.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of treatment that goes on in that day,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: So you come out of that one feeling pretty bad.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I would say that day is probably the worst of
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the five days, really, and how you feel and the
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: amount of the work that goes into it aside from
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: start day, I guess. But and then day two is
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: like a lighter lift day, kind of like a true flush,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: a movement day I like to call it, where you're
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: you're not necessarily moving heavyweights, but you're in there, you're
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: moving your body around, range, emotion stuff. And then ready
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: for that third day bullpen where it's pretty light too.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: You just come in and get prepped for that, throw
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: your bullpen, work on whatever you want to work on,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: and then that day for is really just a full reset,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: be ready to go for that fifth one.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: Lay on the table, yeah exactly. Yeah, that's ice cream.
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know about that.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: Rough rough life is a picture.
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: My wife. Yeah, my wife wears me out.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: She's like, you just give massages all day, Like they're
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: not the good kind of massages you get.
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: Hey, talk a little bit about your new ballpark.
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 37:43
  Speaker 9: I heard a lot of different amenities going in there.
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: How excited are you or not excited? Talk a little
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: about the good and the bed there. It's gonna be
• 37:50
  Speaker 9: a little more of a hitter friendly park as well.
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: Do you think about that a lot or you just
• 37:54
  Speaker 9: go about your daily business and knowing, Hey, I'm gonna
• 37:57
  Speaker 9: know who I'm gonna face today. I just got to
• 37:59
  Speaker 9: you know, business as usual.
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I'm not.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: As excited as our position players are, but you know,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: there it'll be good. I mean, I've heard great things
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: about Steinbrenner. They just get a bigger innovation, so should
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: be really nice from a facility standpoint.
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: But as far as like going out there, the games
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: are same.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: You know, like you we've all played in so many
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: stadiums at this point that it's just another stadium and.
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: It'll be a new normal once we get to it.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they're gonna be adjustments with the weather, with
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: the rain, the heat, But two weeks in the season,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to feel very normal.
• 38:31
  Speaker 10: I don't know what.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Two months in the season when it's June and it's
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: one hundred and forty and it's one hundred percent ninety
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: nine point nine humidity and it's not raining, but it
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: looks like it's going to rain, and you're out there
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: in the third inning, you're going.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: Where they arrange our schedule though you saw that.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys are like the whole heavy Yeah, it'd
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: be crazy, But.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Because I think you guys have fifty two home games
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: in the first half and twenty nine in the back.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: Half or something like July and August. We only have
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: like seven at home.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: You guys also have a todd think about this and
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: Scott they have a four city West Coast swing. They
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: go to the West Coast for four cities. I think
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: they're there for fourteen days, two off days.
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's bad.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: It's like l A, Seattle, Oak or Sacramento and San Francisco.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: So it'll be yeah, that'll be hot too.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: But you think, I mean, like we're talking about you
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: think Tampa is hotter than Atlanta though Atlanta's been here
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: in the summer.
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: I've been here in the summer.
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's the reason why the Rays and the Marlins
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: moved inside.
• 39:32
  Speaker 10: That's right.
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: What about the old globelife?
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: It was hot played for the Rangers for a four years.
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: We take the field, that was a different field.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: Did you take the.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Field at seven o'clock and they have the thermometer out
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: there and left center it would say like one hundred
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: and nineteen degrees.
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: You're like, wait, what I got Sunday that day game
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: out in the bullpen?
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Just roast?
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: What are you gonna do about the range lays as
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: a starter that messes up your routine because there's gonna
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: be Raine lays in Tampa.
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: I don't know, I man, I think Tampa.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: One thing about like picking out of the bullpen, which
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I did for a few years, is like, I'm pretty
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: flexible overall. It doesn't take me much to get going,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: and I think for me personally, it'll be fine. But like,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: we definitely have some guys that like are really kind
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: of stick on their routine. So for me adjustment, Like,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't think anybody really knows what
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: to expect, you know, Like well, like you said, it
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: might rain at three thirty some days, it might rain
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: at seven some days. It's just gonna be one of
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: those things where like we're just going to.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: Figure it out.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Zach, you mentioned obviously your bullpen time in the past.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: How has that helped you shape your career as a
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: starter now? And on that topic, what do you think
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: of the trend of some of these relievers saying all right,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I got several pitches in the arsenal that are you know,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: above average or elite in the big leagues. Let me
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: try this out. Clay Holmes obviously is given that a go.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Now with the Mets, we saw raynald at Lopez last
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: year really really excel in a starting role after going
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: to the bullpen when originally being a starter, which I
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: guess you kind of took us similar path there too.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean I came up as a starter
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: made to the big leagues. I guess tannically at the
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: starter not a very good one, but yeah, moved to
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the bullpen. I think, like, honestly, the bullpen was a
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: really good thing for me, just kind of not letting
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: me be.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: Too married to a routine.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: You know, it's really important to have a routine obviously,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: but no one can go out there and pitch if
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: your routine isn't perfect or if you don't feel great
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: that day. Like the bullpen doesn't give you a choice,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Like you show up every day and you're going to
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: be in there, whether you want to be or not,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: whether your body wants to be, whether you feel like
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: you're in a good place mentally, whatever it is, you
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: got to go get out so and realizing that at
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: the big league level was hard for me specifically, So
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I think the bullpen was really really good for my development.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: And then to get the opportunity to move back into
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: the rotation. Obviously, I think there's not many pictures that
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: you would find in the game that don't want to start,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: so to get the opportunity to do it, for like,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: at the time in twenty three a major league a
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: major League team that was contending, one of the best
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: teams in the league at the time, was pretty cool.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: And the trend you're seeing, Like I said, I think
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: everybody kind of came up as a starter at some point,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: whether it was in college or the minor league. So
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: everyone can do it. It's just a matter of the
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: opportunity in the big leagues. You know, you guys know
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of the time there's a lot of really
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: good players that don't ever get a shot because the
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: opportunity just wasn't there.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: It was no fault of their own.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: It might have been the guy in front of them
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: was on a ten year contract, whatever the case may be.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: So the opportunity has a lot to do with it,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: and teams just can't afford to run you out there
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: for thirty starts and hope for the best, especially if
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: you're contending. So you see it every year and you're
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: you're kind of starting to see now that there have
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: been some successful transitions back into the rotation. Teams are like, hey,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: we've got some guys that we think might be able
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: to do this and it's been really cool to watch.
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  Speaker 4: So you were drafted by the Mariners. This is like,
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: this is like an aircraft. Yeah, this is an aircraft name.
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  Speaker 4: You're catching them. You go, Mariners, Yankees, Twins as rangerst Man.
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  Speaker 4: This is like my career Twins, Giants, Rangers, Red Sox, right,
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  Speaker 4: and then now Tampa.
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  Speaker 5: So all those organizations that you've played for, Yeah, what
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  Speaker 5: does Tampa do different that they say, Zach, we see this.
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  Speaker 4: Where every other was it six other organizations where they're like, well,
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  Speaker 4: we don't really see you as a start of Tampa's like,
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: we see you as a starter.
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  Speaker 5: If you do this, it can work out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a little bit was out of the necessity, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like we had Drew Asmussen was like on the edge
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: of doesn't k need surgery? Does he not need surgery?
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: And I think at this follow up they found out
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: he needed surgery. So it was like, oh, now we're
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: kind of scrambling. The deadline was coming up, and I
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: think honestly they were just kind of looking for a
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: stop gap to the deadline, like.
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  Speaker 6: Try and go out and get somebody.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: It was twenty three, and it just kind of like,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: you know, you throw a lot of strikes, you've got
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: three pitches that we think can play, especially if you
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: fill it up. And I've added two pitches since too,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: but those three primary attack pictures are what they kind
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: of built the foundation on. I think Tampa really not
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: that every organization doesn't find it important, but Tampa really
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: harps on that pound the zone, like get to O
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: two as quick as you can get the guys out
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  Speaker 1: of the box. Every guy on this staff has at
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: least one, if not multiple, well above major league average pictures.
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  Speaker 1: So their belief is your stuff's going to play over
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  Speaker 1: the plate. And then when we get to two strikes,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: we can expand you know, we talked about it a
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: lot hitter. Hitters are bad because they swing too much, right,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: So if we can get them an account where they're
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: forced to swing and make them swing of what we
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: want to swing that, then we're in a good spot.
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  Speaker 1: And I think Tampa does a really good job and
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  Speaker 1: like instilling that belief.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm going to give the you know, dumber
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: fan follow up question here. That sounds so simple, right.
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  Speaker 2: You hear about things with Tampa pound this zone catchers
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: setting up middle of the plate. Why don't other organizations
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: do that? And should they be doing that?
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: I don't think it's like they don't do it.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I just think that they Tampa has found a way
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  Speaker 1: to like truly instill that confidence in you and your stuff.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think it comes down to just the philosophy.
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  Speaker 1: I think the people that you have implementing that philosophy matter.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Philosophy matter. I think the Kyle Snyders, the even down
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: to our analyst Winston Doom, and they're so good at
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: coming to you and saying, hey, this is why your
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: stuff is good, and when you throw at these locations,
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  Speaker 1: good things happen.
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  Speaker 6: Other teams are going to do that.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to say, hey, if you can throw this
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  Speaker 1: pich here, you're going to have success. And everybody here
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: knows that hitters know that if they get a fastball
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  Speaker 1: in a certain location, they're going to be good.
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: But it's a matter of executing that.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: And I just think that the ability of the organization
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  Speaker 1: to communicate and to truly make you believe it as well,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: because all of it's a moot point unless you believe it.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, so this is interesting to me.
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  Speaker 2: You pointed out someone on the analytics side that I
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: think is worth mentioning here because we don't get a
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: ton behind the scenes. I think you said Winston Dune, right,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: that's someone on the analytics team. Okay, So tell me
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: how someone like that has found a really good way
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: to communicate and make it click with a big league
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: or what's the personality, Like, what's the approach? Is he
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: bringing you paper? Is he just starting with a conversation.
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  Speaker 2: We are hearing this more often from pictures around the
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: league where they'll be like, hey, I got a stat
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Nurder came up to me and said, if you use
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: your sinker at discount against these types of hitters more often,
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  Speaker 2: it is going to work.
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  Speaker 7: I did it.
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  Speaker 2: It worked, But take me behind the scenes on how
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: you get the buying because it's your arm, your career.
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  Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the biggest thing is, like the analyst is
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I've enjoyed working with and the guys that kind of
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: resonate with you with the most are like the guys
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: that kind of stay in their lane, right, they're not
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: telling me how I need to throw the picks. They're
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: not telling me like, oh, feel this with your body.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: They're saying, hey, strictly from a number standpoint, if you
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: throw this sinker in this talent to this type of hitter,
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  Speaker 1: you're going.
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  Speaker 6: To have success.
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  Speaker 1: So I think Winston's really good at It's very black
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: and white for Winston, which is a good thing and
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: a bad thing. As you guys know, with analysts a
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: lot of time, it's the game is sometimes easy in
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: their eyes. But I think when it comes down to it,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Winston truly just wants you to be good, obviously because
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: he wants to raise to be good. But he's given
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: you this information because it works and he's seen it
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: years and years now.
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: He watches more baseball than probably any of us.
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  Speaker 1: And if he's coming to me with a data point
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: or a statistic and he's saying, hey, if you can
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: execute in discount with this pitch in this location consistently,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to be pretty good.
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: So I think that the.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Communication with us is also nice because you have Kyle
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Snyder as that bridge as well, who can do both.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: He can talk to you about the analytics, he can
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: talk to you about pitching. Obviously he was pretty good.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: So having like a team of guys not necessarily like
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: an analyst, separated from the actual pitching department, where they're
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: coming at you from two different directions, that matters.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: Agree all right, Before we let you go, I have
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: to ask this because you guys got some dudes, especially starters.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: Who's the best stuff?
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: That's a loaded question. Have It's incredible, It's gotta be one.
• 48:02
  Speaker 8: Is it?
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: Shane is it? I mean, like Shane, Shane is it?
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: Who's it's? I I'll scream from the rooftop.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Tag Bradley has like top to bottom Cy Young colder stuff,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: but I mean Shane contends for.
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: Young's every time he pitches.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Shane Boss. We haven't got to see him much just
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: because his workload has been so small, but.
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: He'll be there.
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's he's insane.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Hit one hundred the other day in his first spring
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Star I mean Ryan Pepio, Like he's intense on the mound,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: like his stuff is just here, it is, come get it,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: and all of it's hard, all of it's breaking hard.
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: So they're all so good, and then the bullpens just
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: equally as good.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's one of the things, like no
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: one every season it goes into it happened, You'll see
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: it every year.
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: Is Tampa. No one talks about Tampa staff. It's because
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: it's like the not.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: As Yeah, yeah, it's it's unbelievable. The guys they bring
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: in and the I mean Edwin you said it kind.
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: Of came out of nowhere.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: He's just incredible, and they all show up to free
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: training to just getting miss a beat.
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  Speaker 6: So it should be really fun.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I mean the staff, top to bottom, all thirteen, all twelve,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: whatever we'd end up doing, are unbelievable.
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: Zactly.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: This was awesome. Really enjoyed the conversation. Thanks for stopping by.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Good luck the rest of the spring. Will catch you
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: during the season.