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Jags Drive Time: Thursday, August 8 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jack Bars, did you go Jack Wars? Did you Jaguars
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Speaker 1: finding sex steps that John Oh says it? Actually, I'm
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Speaker 1: Jaguars draw a time starts right now. Welcome into Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Drive Time live from the team hotel in Baltimore on
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Speaker 1: game day morning. Kickoff is at seven thirty tonight against
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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. It's been a long time coming, guys,
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Speaker 1: We've been here now four days. It's been a long week.
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Speaker 1: But finally game day football. You're ready, let's go? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, we're gonna right, I'm gonna leave back
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Speaker 1: right here we go. So how do we think the
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Speaker 1: week went? Guys? Um, they went well. They got what
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Speaker 1: they wanted to out of it. Um. I certainly thought
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Speaker 1: that the offense overall, again as it had throughout training camp,
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Speaker 1: showed that it's going to be better. I don't think
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be you know, setting NFL wreck, it's better,
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Speaker 1: but I like what I saw from Nick Foles. I
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Speaker 1: like what I saw from the receivers. I'm optimistic about that.
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Speaker 1: I don't think the defense was great, but I don't
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Speaker 1: have any doubt that the defense will be fine once
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Speaker 1: the regular season started. I think when folks see who's
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Speaker 1: playing and how much they're playing tonight, they will have
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Speaker 1: an idea of how productive the week was. Because Doug
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Speaker 1: Morone told Leon seriously, who's going to join us in
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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. Uh, and me yesterday knew at
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Speaker 1: the production meeting for the television broadcast that the week
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Speaker 1: as a whole, the repetitions against the Ravens on Monday
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Speaker 1: and Tuesday, they're the same as the reps that they
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Speaker 1: get in a game. Right. They were looking at the
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Speaker 1: workload of these guys from Monday through Thursday and putting
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Speaker 1: it all together. So it's not practice practice game as
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Speaker 1: much as it's Monday to Thursday. Um. And Doug hasn't
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Speaker 1: made all of that public, but I'll say you'll see
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Speaker 1: just how much they thought of the work they got done.
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Speaker 1: They thought a lot of it the same, all meaning
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Speaker 1: the same. The other day, Brian and practice, at the
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Speaker 1: end they went with a live hitting session to the ground,
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Speaker 1: which is very unusual in any sort of training camp practice.
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Speaker 1: Guess what, there were no starter none in that. So
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Speaker 1: I think the idea right now is let's get these
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Speaker 1: guys through is So that might have been an indication
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Speaker 1: of a lot of guys who may not play, we'll see.
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Speaker 1: Let's get right into big things then. Big Thing one
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Speaker 1: is not your father's preseason. The field of this week's
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Speaker 1: first preseason game is going to feel a little different
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Speaker 1: than most were, not for sure, but probably a lot
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Speaker 1: of starters won't be playing. You're gonna get a lot
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Speaker 1: of reps for the second team, like we said, and
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Speaker 1: what you just mentioned, Brian, is that these reps that
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Speaker 1: they got Monday and Tuesday mean almost the same thing
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Speaker 1: for a preseason game on Thursday. Big thing too, is
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Speaker 1: you think you know? So we've been the past few
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Speaker 1: weeks thinking what we think of the depth chart the
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Speaker 1: first team, the second team. But a prime example of
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Speaker 1: something that we thought we knew that we didn't is
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Speaker 1: Will Richardson Jr. What Doug Bron said about him yesterday.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that in a little bit. And
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Speaker 1: Big thing three is top priorities tonight, and from what
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Speaker 1: we've heard, we think it's the health, especially the health
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Speaker 1: of the first string guys. Dungroan hasn't made a public yet,
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Speaker 1: but you're not going to see a lot of the
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Speaker 1: guys that we thought we would see. So let's go
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Speaker 1: back to big thing one, and that is this is
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Speaker 1: not your father's preseason And when Leon gets on, I mean,
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Speaker 1: he doesn't think it's your father's game day at our
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Speaker 1: training camp anymore because it isn't the same as what
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Speaker 1: he went through. The same thing here with the preseason games, John,
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Speaker 1: I remember two thousand and eleven we went to New England,
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Speaker 1: and my first memory of nobody plays at all in
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Speaker 1: the fourth preseason game is there because that was when
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick sent the card through their officials and every
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Speaker 1: starter was sitting down. Now, the fourth preseason game for
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Speaker 1: years was about getting guys out early, getting him a
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Speaker 1: couple of reps. Everyone good, let's get out. That was
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Speaker 1: the first memory I have of nobody playing in a
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Speaker 1: preseason game. And we're starting to see around the league
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Speaker 1: now as these teams do joint practices for two days
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Speaker 1: before the preseason game, lots of guys not playing the
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Speaker 1: first preseason game. So the fourth and the first preseason
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Speaker 1: game are essentially the same. Now it's easy them in
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Speaker 1: and then ease them out of the preseason, as opposed
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Speaker 1: to let's jump in and get going. I can remember
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Speaker 1: that happening when I was covering the Colts. I remember
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Speaker 1: that happening a little earlier than that in the fourth
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Speaker 1: preseason game, and I remember it's sort of being a
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Speaker 1: shock of oh this is this is different. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: was covering the cold, so I thought, well, maybe they
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Speaker 1: are you a little more confidence since they had had
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Speaker 1: the offense going for a while. It's soon turned into
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Speaker 1: a league wide trend where it's just a given that
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Speaker 1: no starters playing in Week four, and it has been
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Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. It's been notable that
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Speaker 1: it's gone to the first Uh. It's gotten to the
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Speaker 1: point really where the only one that's the same is
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Speaker 1: the third preseason game that is still the one that
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Speaker 1: they try to use the dress rehearsal, and I Dougs
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Speaker 1: talked about it. He talks about it at the end
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Speaker 1: of O t A s. There is a real nervous
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Speaker 1: feeling coaches have whenever those guys are doing anything close
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Speaker 1: to live because you just don't want to get them hurt.
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Speaker 1: They don't have the depth. No team has the depth
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Speaker 1: to withstand two or three guys being out for the season.
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Speaker 1: They're trying to protect these guys. I'm not sure what
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Speaker 1: the future for the preseason holds. Last year, the Rams
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Speaker 1: didn't play a single starter in a single preseason game
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Speaker 1: and they went to the Super Bowl. Now, if that
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Speaker 1: doesn't send something, I don't know what does. And with
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Speaker 1: the c b A coming up and the owners are
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Speaker 1: pushing for eighteen games, and there's certain things that the
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Speaker 1: players want that they might be willing to get in
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Speaker 1: return for the eight team game schedule, I mean, that's
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Speaker 1: it's still a ways into the future. But um, what
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Speaker 1: the preseason was when John and I and Leon were
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Speaker 1: kids was six preseason games, right, and guys played all
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Speaker 1: the time. They were also trying to get in shape.
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Speaker 1: It was a different thing. They didn't have the O
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Speaker 1: T A. S. And I think where we might be headed.
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Speaker 1: And I just started rethinking this this week a little
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Speaker 1: bit when I saw these guys going to the ground
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Speaker 1: on Tuesday and that's really unusual these days, and live tackling,
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Speaker 1: and I thought, you know what they're gonna start doing.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be they don't have enough. Without four
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Speaker 1: preseason games, you have trouble evaluating the bottom of the roster.
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Speaker 1: But if they start doing that and in live periods
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Speaker 1: and joint practices, all of a sudden, I think you
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Speaker 1: might see more periods like that where there's live between
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Speaker 1: guys because it's more controlled than a game, and almost
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Speaker 1: they may have to go to a scrimmage type situation.
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Speaker 1: That wasn't a scrimmage we saw yesterday. It was just situational,
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Speaker 1: but you might see them have one basically scrimmage with
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Speaker 1: the starters obviously not playing. But when you get a
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Speaker 1: guy like Joan Taylor two or three series to see
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Speaker 1: what he can do, that may be the future because
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Speaker 1: they have to have something to simulate a preseason game
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Speaker 1: for the evaluation. But it may be a case where
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Speaker 1: you're not making people pay to go watch it. Remember
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Speaker 1: it's about the money, and the owners keep the gate.
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Speaker 1: They don't split it with the players in the preseason.
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Speaker 1: So if they come to some arrangement where more money
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Speaker 1: shifts from a percentage wise to players, then they can
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Speaker 1: do away with the preseason game. But the owners are
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Speaker 1: gonna want to make sure they take care of their
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Speaker 1: bottom line. I started, I start charging for their scrammages,
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Speaker 1: but above all else, money aside. It definitely seems like
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Speaker 1: the top priority presem wise, and help's health. Because you
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Speaker 1: look at every team across the league, basically every team
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Speaker 1: has faced a Marquise Lee situation. Look, choose a team
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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you the player they can at least
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Speaker 1: afford to lose. Right, So if you are the Los
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Speaker 1: Angeles Rams and you lose Aaron Donald, are you anywhere
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Speaker 1: close to the same team? Not at all. Right, you
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Speaker 1: can't afford to be in that situation. So the goal
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Speaker 1: it's not just about it Again, when Leo gets over here,
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Speaker 1: we can talk about managing your body through the course
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Speaker 1: of a training camp, but it's not just about getting
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Speaker 1: to the to the regular season healthy. It's about being
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Speaker 1: ready to play. Because they have the exosystem that monitors
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Speaker 1: every snap. I was sitting over by the football technology
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Speaker 1: guys during one of the training camp practices. They're monitoring
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Speaker 1: who's playing on every snap and they know how far
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Speaker 1: they ran and how much energy they exerted. The science
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Speaker 1: behind this to get guys not just healthy enough to play,
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Speaker 1: but at a peak performance level for the start of
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Speaker 1: the regular season. Uh, the investment in that has been
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Speaker 1: and to not wear them out. You know you had
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Speaker 1: for Net last year have his hamstring go in the
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Speaker 1: first game. Uh. There's still a lot of trying to
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Speaker 1: figure out how to prevent that sort of thing. It's
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Speaker 1: and the bottom line a lot of this is it's
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Speaker 1: not completely preventable because it's still the human body. So
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Speaker 1: you're talking about percentages, you're talking about trying to raise
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Speaker 1: the chances of guys not getting hurt. O of mind,
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Speaker 1: you can do all this and a guy can still
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Speaker 1: be at a C, L and N in contact anytime.
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Speaker 1: So uh, I get a lot of feedback from fans
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Speaker 1: of why are they doing this? Guys are still hurt.
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Speaker 1: You do the best you can and trying to maximize
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Speaker 1: your ability to be as healthy as possible because in
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Speaker 1: the end, at the end of the season, it's all
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Speaker 1: about attrition. So if you can, if you can save
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Speaker 1: one or two guys, that's their approach. Now, when Dante
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Speaker 1: Foller Jr. Blew his knee out, there was no contact.
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Speaker 1: What Tony Boselli did in the ending of the ninety
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Speaker 1: nine season against the Bengals, he was just kind of
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Speaker 1: trotting down the field, no contact whatsoever. That element you
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Speaker 1: can't do. Anything, can only prevent it so much. You
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Speaker 1: can't You can't know. You could tear yours walking off
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Speaker 1: Live in Baltimore game day morning and that brings us
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Speaker 1: into he will, he won't, he might a game day
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Speaker 1: edition and Brian we talked about it a little bit
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Speaker 1: big thing too. The thoughts Dug Marown had on Will
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Speaker 1: Richardson Jr. Were really interesting and he is your he three. Well,
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Speaker 1: he's gonna surprise some people tonight because he's gonna start
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Speaker 1: because there's going to be a lot of starters who
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Speaker 1: are not playing. He's gonna surprise people because what Doug
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Speaker 1: Morrow told us was he's in the mix for a
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Speaker 1: starting job. Now that blows some people's mind because they
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Speaker 1: were called last year he was a bust. Right. That
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Speaker 1: goes to show you how fickle fans can be, how
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Speaker 1: people can be with a player. He injured his knee,
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Speaker 1: he went on, I r didn't see him all year. Um,
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Speaker 1: but we've talked about him and how he had improved
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Speaker 1: and was playing inside. Doug told us yesterday he had
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Speaker 1: really performed well inside and was in the conversation for
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Speaker 1: a starting job. What caught us by surprise, So it
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Speaker 1: will catch people by surprise. Um, he won't disappoint. He
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Speaker 1: is a big bodied guy. He's got long arms, he's
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Speaker 1: got power. When they drafted him, they said he might
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Speaker 1: be a guard, and he looks the part of one
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Speaker 1: of those power guards. When you play the kind of
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Speaker 1: offensive scheme that the Jaguars do, which can be run
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Speaker 1: heavy at times with a big power back like for net,
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Speaker 1: a guy like willichis and goes a long way. So
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Speaker 1: he won't disappoint. He might be a starter. He might
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Speaker 1: take a j Cann's job. They brought A J. Cann back,
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Speaker 1: Remember they let him walk, didn't get a lot of
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Speaker 1: free agency action. They brought him back, put him on
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Speaker 1: a three year deal. They value him, but I think
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Speaker 1: will Richardson is a prime candidate with the size that
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Speaker 1: he's got. Right next to Juwan Taylor, this is a
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Speaker 1: right handed team now with with Leonard Fournette, they want
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Speaker 1: to run right. Will Richardson might give them a better
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Speaker 1: option at right guard and he might be the starting
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Speaker 1: guard on opening Day. Crazy to think about because he
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Speaker 1: is one of the guys you think of last year
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Speaker 1: completely unnoticed, and a lot of that's due to injury.
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Speaker 1: But after the draft he really didn't hear much about
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Speaker 1: him at all. Fourth round pick who people said if
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Speaker 1: he hadn't had the off the field issues in North
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Speaker 1: Carolina State might have been a Day two pick, a
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Speaker 1: second or a third round pick. But they need that
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Speaker 1: to be true. So I went with Gardner Minshew. Um,
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Speaker 1: he will get a lot of snaps tonight and UM,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna start hand hand hand,
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Speaker 1: but uh, he's going to get a huge look. He
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Speaker 1: has been the guy they clearly want him to be
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Speaker 1: the backup. He got all the rest of the twos
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Speaker 1: this week. Um, he won't be perfect because he hasn't
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Speaker 1: been perfect so far, and he won't be conventional because
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Speaker 1: he's not a conventional guy. He's he's an odd player
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Speaker 1: to watch. He's an exciting player to watch. I wonder
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Speaker 1: about his arm strength. I don't wonder about his savvy.
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Speaker 1: I don't wonder about his enthusiasm for it. But it's
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Speaker 1: going to be a question to me does he have
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Speaker 1: that NFL arm? And I don't think you prove that
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Speaker 1: until you're out there with starters or with guys who
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Speaker 1: are going full speed. Uh. He's had some interceptions during
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Speaker 1: training camp. They're a little concerning, but he's also had
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Speaker 1: some very good things. So he's been a rookie so far. Um,
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Speaker 1: he might be the most important story going on during
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Speaker 1: the preseason because of the important of the backup quarterback position.
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Speaker 1: If they don't go with him, I'm not sure that
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Speaker 1: they have a great option to go to right now.
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Speaker 1: So he needs to show that he can make these throws.
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Speaker 1: H If there are certain throws he can't make because
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Speaker 1: of his arm, he at least needs to show the
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Speaker 1: coaches what they can do with him, what throws he
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Speaker 1: can't make, how you scheme around him because he's a
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Speaker 1: snap away and that for a sixth round pick rookie,
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Speaker 1: that's a frightening thought. But he might be the most
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Speaker 1: important story in camp that we haven't talked a lot
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Speaker 1: about because it's so obvious, he said, an reportant story.
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Speaker 1: But it's also not lockdown that he's the second guy
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Speaker 1: behind fold because before Monday, you saw Magoo, you saw
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Speaker 1: Tanner Lee. It wasn't always him second team. Yeah, but
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Speaker 1: they went with him big time this week, which to
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Speaker 1: me shows that this is who they want, are going
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Speaker 1: big time within the night. Yeah, he can play his
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Speaker 1: way out of it, and that's what he has to
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Speaker 1: play his way into it because it's it's always out
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Speaker 1: of done deal. But this is what they want to see.
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Speaker 1: Can this world all right? My He three is Tyree
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Speaker 1: Brady wide receiver. You will see him playing night due
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Speaker 1: to the belief that a lot of the wide receivers,
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Speaker 1: the ones will not be playing. You won't think that
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Speaker 1: the stage is too big him. And I say that
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Speaker 1: because Gardner Minshru called him out yesterday and said, we
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Speaker 1: asked him, who's a receiver that you really looked to
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Speaker 1: who's impressed you. I wasn't expecting Tyree Brady the name
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Speaker 1: to come out of his mouth, but he said that
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Speaker 1: he's made plays throughout training camp. We've talked about it
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Speaker 1: back and forth throughout a few weeks, but this week,
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Speaker 1: especially Gardner Mins, she mentioned him making plays here in Baltimore,
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Speaker 1: and he might have a solid shot to make this team.
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Speaker 1: And I say that because there's no guarantee that Keelan
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Speaker 1: Cole makes this team to roll prior senior. He's a
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Speaker 1: big body. We've seen him, you know, being able to block,
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Speaker 1: but there's no guarantee that that spot isn't up for grabs,
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Speaker 1: that last wide receiver spot. And I think he has
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Speaker 1: a solid shot to make it, especially if he performs
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Speaker 1: well tonight. He does have to perform well. I go
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Speaker 1: back to something Doug said though Doug judges guys on
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Speaker 1: have they done it for him? Right? So healing Cole
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Speaker 1: has done it for him. We haven't seen anything in
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Speaker 1: him with camp, nothing, So I get what you're saying.
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Speaker 1: But at the end of two thousands seventeen, Cole had
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Speaker 1: become a go to god, and I think Tyree Brady
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Speaker 1: is gonna have to beat out to Roll Prior. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's who is competition is tonight. Yeah, I agree. I
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Speaker 1: think Cole makes the team because I have seen a
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Speaker 1: little bit in him. He has not been on the
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Speaker 1: part of the top three, but he is a guy who,
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Speaker 1: as you say, he has done it for Doug. Trust
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Speaker 1: that Keenan likes him. Uh, and he's a guy that
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Speaker 1: they all know, So I think they lean towards that.
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Speaker 1: But I'm with you, guys, I don't think it's a
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Speaker 1: done deal. But you go up to Surle Prior, He's
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Speaker 1: got something in the wide receiver group that none of
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Speaker 1: them have that huge body. They already have the small,
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Speaker 1: fast guy in Westbrook that Tyree Brady is, So the
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Speaker 1: odds are definitely stacked against Tyree Brady. Well, Prior is playing.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's going to be on the field a
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Speaker 1: lot tonight, so the opportunity is there. The battle between
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Speaker 1: Brady and Prior is going to be front and center
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Speaker 1: to time. I definitely want to look for all. Right, John,
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Speaker 1: Happy game day to you. You're done has taken your seat. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: I hate to bring that. Sorry comes president. It's also
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Speaker 1: Leon's TV broadcast premier tonight, so we gotta give him
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20:08
Speaker 1: play by play analysts Leon, how you're feeling a little
20:12
Speaker 1: nervous excited? Had game Dame and then my man Brian
20:17
Speaker 1: Sexy have been twenty years. We've got nothing to be
20:20
Speaker 1: nervous about. It all in the games. Now I'm in
20:22
Speaker 1: the booth. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of Here's
20:26
Speaker 1: here's the interesting part, and that is is that as
20:29
Speaker 1: Leon has gotten back to Jacksonville and we've got a
20:31
Speaker 1: chance to spend more time around him, it's clear how
20:34
Speaker 1: much passion he has for the game. You can find
20:35
Speaker 1: all kinds of people who can talk about the game,
20:37
Speaker 1: but leon this game has been your whole life. You've
20:40
Speaker 1: played it, you've coached it, now you're talking about it.
20:43
Speaker 1: You love it. I love it. I do. I really
20:45
Speaker 1: do love the game of football. I love everything, every
20:48
Speaker 1: aspect about it. I love the toughness about I love
20:50
Speaker 1: the competition. I love to get after it. Um. I
20:53
Speaker 1: love the touchdowns, I love the celebrations. I love the
20:55
Speaker 1: offensive line play. I mean, I'm just passionate about football.
20:58
Speaker 1: And like I said, it's been a very long time.
21:01
Speaker 1: I've been dormant for a while, so it's been a
21:03
Speaker 1: long time since I've been in a game day situation.
21:06
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go, ready to get going. So we
21:08
Speaker 1: were talking a couple of minutes ago with John about
21:11
Speaker 1: just how different the first preseason game is in twenty
21:14
Speaker 1: nineteen than in nineteen or these guys, if they haven't
21:20
Speaker 1: read between the lines, we don't expect to see much
21:22
Speaker 1: of the starting group, if at all, tonight. That's different
21:25
Speaker 1: than when. Yeah, it's it's different, especially when I was
21:27
Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville. I want to offensive line coach Guy
21:30
Speaker 1: restus Sol Mike Mayson past two weeks ago. He used
21:33
Speaker 1: to come into the locker room. He used to give
21:35
Speaker 1: us a count. So if we had the first preseason
21:37
Speaker 1: and he would say, okay, seriously, you got ten, So
21:39
Speaker 1: I knew exactly what that was. That means you've got
21:41
Speaker 1: ten plays, no matter what it is, you have ten
21:43
Speaker 1: players in your old and then he put another guy
21:45
Speaker 1: or here going to BASSELLI, you got five, but so
21:47
Speaker 1: he always got less place for so he every guys
21:49
Speaker 1: had different accounts, so you know what I'm saying. So
21:52
Speaker 1: that's how it worked out. In the second preseason game,
21:54
Speaker 1: we automatically knew we were going to play a quarter
21:58
Speaker 1: and a half, so he didn't have to come and
21:59
Speaker 1: get us a council was a quarter and a half.
22:01
Speaker 1: The year out of there third pieces of same season game,
22:03
Speaker 1: we played a whole half and the four pieces of
22:05
Speaker 1: the gave you out. But nowadays, I mean, I've never
22:08
Speaker 1: seen the situation where the starters just don't play at all.
22:11
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what it's twenty years later. And
22:14
Speaker 1: I know, you know, I know that the coaches are
22:16
Speaker 1: concerned about guys being injured and stuff like that, but
22:20
Speaker 1: I just feel that you've gotta bang to get your
22:22
Speaker 1: body ready for the pressure of you know, the pushing
22:27
Speaker 1: pool of football. And you know, I'm just old school,
22:30
Speaker 1: you know, you know that I I learned from I
22:32
Speaker 1: learned that in college that went to the translated to
22:35
Speaker 1: the pros. I just feel like, you have to get
22:37
Speaker 1: your body prepared for football, and the only way you
22:39
Speaker 1: can do that is that you've got to be physical
22:40
Speaker 1: one another and teach your body how to push and
22:43
Speaker 1: strain and in the in the in the pressure points situations. So, um,
22:49
Speaker 1: I understand the coaches concerned because you're, like you were
22:51
Speaker 1: talking about earlier, Los Angeles Rams can loser, Ariandonald. I
22:55
Speaker 1: mean it's not the same team, you know, um uh so,
22:59
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just I just wish that
23:04
Speaker 1: because I got hurt on a non contact injury. So
23:08
Speaker 1: I mean, it couldn't happened to anybody when I blew
23:11
Speaker 1: that out the ninety nine. It was a non contact
23:13
Speaker 1: you know. But my whole career was based upon being physical,
23:16
Speaker 1: getting because I had to train my body to do
23:18
Speaker 1: those kinds of things. So, but I understand the coaches
23:21
Speaker 1: concerns because when you've got key guys, key components of
23:23
Speaker 1: your offense, or your defense, and there down it does
23:26
Speaker 1: weaken your team, makes your team, you know, a little
23:28
Speaker 1: bit less valuable going on to the season. So we
23:30
Speaker 1: were talking about will Richardson. He's a guy you've paid
23:33
Speaker 1: a lot of attention to. When Doug said yesterday he's
23:37
Speaker 1: in the conversation for a starting job, where you surprised,
23:40
Speaker 1: you know what, I really wasn't because I've been watching
23:44
Speaker 1: the offense and all through training camp and he's a
23:46
Speaker 1: big body. I mean, you're talking about six fires, like
23:48
Speaker 1: three hundred and something pals and you put him next
23:51
Speaker 1: to Jawan Taylor. I mean, like I mean, it blocks
23:53
Speaker 1: out the day. You can't see the sunshine. They half
23:55
Speaker 1: to tell when you those guys, when you put those
23:57
Speaker 1: two your frontly eachil and no knock on a j Can.
24:00
Speaker 1: You know An Can is a nice I think he's
24:02
Speaker 1: a nice, reliable swing guy who could play guard or center,
24:04
Speaker 1: because I noticed in practice that they had him at
24:06
Speaker 1: center a couple of times. But will Richardson is just
24:09
Speaker 1: a big, physical body. And when I saw him on
24:11
Speaker 1: the one on one drills against the Ravens, he just
24:14
Speaker 1: seemed to be able to control them a little bit
24:16
Speaker 1: more than all the other Guards. When I saw him
24:19
Speaker 1: go in, I saw Ken, I saw Kim because his
24:21
Speaker 1: lack of his last lack of physicalness. He tried to
24:24
Speaker 1: jump set the guy got beat inside. But Will when
24:26
Speaker 1: he did the same thing, I mean, he staled me
24:28
Speaker 1: the guy. And he's got long arms, he's physical, he's
24:30
Speaker 1: got good need been mo. Only concerned about Will being
24:34
Speaker 1: next to Jamal Taylor is that they're an experience on
24:37
Speaker 1: the right side. I mean that that's my only concerned
24:40
Speaker 1: that an experience on on the right side. But they've
24:42
Speaker 1: got to be if that's going to be the case,
24:44
Speaker 1: they got to build up a good rapport right now.
24:46
Speaker 1: So leading into the season, you know they're connected and
24:49
Speaker 1: whatever they decided to do come up. Gardnerment show. We
24:52
Speaker 1: believe he's gonna get a lot of snaps to night
24:53
Speaker 1: and you know you talked to him yesterday. What do
24:55
Speaker 1: you think of him? Uh, Well, I've given him the
24:58
Speaker 1: name the Headband, the Headband bandits. I hope that sticks.
25:02
Speaker 1: I like I like, I like Guard to miss you.
25:04
Speaker 1: I think they're going into this game. I mean, he's
25:06
Speaker 1: gonna be the biggest storyline, to be quite honest with you,
25:08
Speaker 1: and it's gonna you're gonna be very interesting to see
25:11
Speaker 1: how he progressed, how he developers, how he's able to
25:14
Speaker 1: manipulate the defense, you know, going through his different progressions.
25:17
Speaker 1: And because now he's in the NFL, that window is
25:20
Speaker 1: going to close. So how is he gonna be able
25:22
Speaker 1: to fit the ball in those smaller windows? I mean,
25:24
Speaker 1: in college the windows here and the pros the windows here.
25:27
Speaker 1: So now he's gonna have to fit the ball into
25:28
Speaker 1: those windows. And I just want to see what kind
25:30
Speaker 1: of leadership he has. Can he take this team up
25:33
Speaker 1: and down the field of consistent basis, Can he convert
25:35
Speaker 1: on third downs when it's necessary? So all of those
25:37
Speaker 1: kinds of things are going to factor into us development.
25:40
Speaker 1: And he's been under the tutelage of a super Bowl
25:42
Speaker 1: champion super Bowl m v P, so I want to
25:44
Speaker 1: see how that wears off on as well. But I
25:47
Speaker 1: think he's going to be the big story about offensively,
25:49
Speaker 1: and and he's got swagger. You know, he doesn't mind
25:53
Speaker 1: being who he is. I love that about him. You know,
25:55
Speaker 1: he's not trying to fit in any place. He's just
25:57
Speaker 1: trying to be him his own self, and I respect
26:00
Speaker 1: that about him. So he's going to be very interesting
26:03
Speaker 1: to watch today. Now, the story on the other side
26:04
Speaker 1: of the ball is Josh Allen, who we will see
26:07
Speaker 1: tonight because it's Doug mentioned to us yesterday. He's gonna
26:10
Speaker 1: play rookies because he doesn't know them, he doesn't feel
26:12
Speaker 1: comfortable with them yet. Um, although I kind of feel
26:15
Speaker 1: comfortable with what I've seen from Josh Allen. He's not Brackens,
26:19
Speaker 1: but he's got some some attributes, some characteristics that remind
26:22
Speaker 1: me of what. Yeah, I like. I like his quickness,
26:25
Speaker 1: I like his elusiveness, I like his speed, I like
26:27
Speaker 1: his ability to get around offensive tackles. Um, he has
26:31
Speaker 1: a tendency even Calais and man, he has a tendency
26:34
Speaker 1: to go down the middle of the offensive aliment and
26:37
Speaker 1: not use his hands to get awful. So, I mean
26:39
Speaker 1: that's going to be a key upon it, especially as
26:41
Speaker 1: he moved forward and plays better tackles. NFL tackles fool
26:44
Speaker 1: much bigger, strong and faster and kind of keen on,
26:47
Speaker 1: you know, because you know NFL guys off his Alliement's
26:50
Speaker 1: gonna watch film on and they're gonna see his tendencies
26:52
Speaker 1: and they're gonna try to They're gonna try to factor
26:54
Speaker 1: in how to beat him and how to break him
26:56
Speaker 1: in his tendencies, and Calais has said, we've got We've
26:58
Speaker 1: been working on him on his next move. You know,
27:01
Speaker 1: he's that first movie and next to that account move.
27:03
Speaker 1: So um, he's gonna be a very interesting guy to
27:06
Speaker 1: watch as well. I look at the kid, I think
27:08
Speaker 1: he's bracken nish because I think a physical years but
27:12
Speaker 1: you know, he still got the ways ago to be
27:15
Speaker 1: be among the elite. Pass us of seeing Jackspere when
27:18
Speaker 1: I watched him, I'm excited about his potential, but I
27:22
Speaker 1: have a greater appreciation for Brackens because as good as
27:25
Speaker 1: Alan looks like you're gonna be, Brakins was just I mean,
27:28
Speaker 1: Brackens was just enormous. You take six five and two
27:32
Speaker 1: and sixty five pounds and you can cut it a
27:34
Speaker 1: couple of different ways. Brack was cut like a granted
27:38
Speaker 1: he was that he was and moved like a cheetah.
27:41
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if if Boat wants
27:43
Speaker 1: to admit this, but neither one of us wanted to
27:45
Speaker 1: see him in practice. Boat has admitted okay, well then yeah, yeah,
27:49
Speaker 1: he has admitted that it would make a long day
27:51
Speaker 1: being honest that's for sure. Yes, yes, all right. When
27:54
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Speaker 1: as we get ready for the first preseason games tonight
30:01
Speaker 1: seven thirty Jaguars versus Ravens. Brian and Leon in the
30:05
Speaker 1: booth to the priest who can broadcast myself and Brett
30:07
Speaker 1: Martineau on the sidelines. And I think you're gonna want
30:10
Speaker 1: to watch, especially because Leon, you're a great storyteller, and
30:12
Speaker 1: yesterday you told a story about the first time you
30:15
Speaker 1: saw Colas Campbell and it got us all last in
30:18
Speaker 1: the meeting. Yeah, well, well it was two thousand six.
30:21
Speaker 1: I was offensive line coach for f I U and
30:23
Speaker 1: we were in the Orange Bowl, so you know, it
30:25
Speaker 1: has been a while since it's home bowl. You know,
30:27
Speaker 1: that's my home. So I'm walking on the field or whatever,
30:31
Speaker 1: and Klai's campbell was walking past the fifty yard line.
30:35
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him like he looks like a freaking
30:37
Speaker 1: Greek guy walking across the field. And I was like, wait,
30:39
Speaker 1: who is this man right here? So I turned to
30:41
Speaker 1: my offensive line who was behind me, and they were
30:43
Speaker 1: doing their sets or whatever, and I looked at it
30:45
Speaker 1: and I said, you poor souls. I said, no one
30:48
Speaker 1: over there, no one over there could block this man.
30:51
Speaker 1: I said, I don't even know if I could block
30:52
Speaker 1: all right now. So that was I had to tell
30:54
Speaker 1: him that story. I don't know if he remembered that.
30:57
Speaker 1: I just wanted to refresh him on that thing, that
31:00
Speaker 1: two thousand and six game when I was coaching at
31:02
Speaker 1: f I uns at University. And thirteen years later, he's
31:05
Speaker 1: still daring hard to be I know, I know he
31:07
Speaker 1: looks good. Yeah he does, you, poor poor souls? Yeah, yeah,
31:10
Speaker 1: that's what said. He's uh, he's an interesting He's an
31:13
Speaker 1: interesting guy because I think most people thought he was
31:15
Speaker 1: only gonna play two years in Jacksonville here at his
31:17
Speaker 1: age with the cap number. Now he's coming for the
31:20
Speaker 1: third because he played at all pro level last year.
31:22
Speaker 1: Who's to say he can't come back for another year.
31:25
Speaker 1: This is a guy who keeps his body and tiptop ship.
31:28
Speaker 1: He's a great example to a young Josh Allen. Oh yeah, absolutely.
31:31
Speaker 1: He is the best mentors for a guy like Josh
31:33
Speaker 1: Allen because a problem with most rookies that come into
31:37
Speaker 1: the league, they don't know how to be professionals. You know,
31:39
Speaker 1: they get a whole bunch of money. You know a
31:41
Speaker 1: lot of people are having him on the bag. A
31:43
Speaker 1: lot of people tell them how great they are, but
31:44
Speaker 1: they don't know how to go about the regiment of
31:46
Speaker 1: being a professional. And I'm sure uh Calais is the
31:49
Speaker 1: consummate professional, I mean on the field, off the field,
31:52
Speaker 1: he gets it done. So Josh Allen, he has got
31:54
Speaker 1: somebody that's going to lead the way. Just like when
31:56
Speaker 1: I was in Pittsburgh. When I was in Pittsburgh my
31:58
Speaker 1: rookie year and I signed with the with the Steelers,
32:00
Speaker 1: I was automatically the high pay office, lament on the
32:02
Speaker 1: on the team, and I went into the locker room
32:04
Speaker 1: and touch and said to me. He said, Okay, what
32:07
Speaker 1: are you gonna do now? Are you in this for
32:08
Speaker 1: the short term with the long term? I said long term?
32:10
Speaker 1: He said, well, do whatever I say. And you know,
32:12
Speaker 1: back in those days when that vetor told you what
32:14
Speaker 1: to do, you did it. Yeah, you know, you know
32:15
Speaker 1: there's no questions. Ass So I mean Klaus being the
32:20
Speaker 1: professionally hears on the field, the monster that he is,
32:23
Speaker 1: I mean the monster he is on the field, the
32:25
Speaker 1: professionally is off the field. I'm sure Josh Allen is
32:27
Speaker 1: going to grow and learn from it. It's almost like
32:29
Speaker 1: yesterday when we were talking to him, It's felt like
32:31
Speaker 1: we were talking to the defensive coordinator about Josh Allen.
32:34
Speaker 1: Like Kalis had such a mindset of a coach teaching
32:37
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. And I love when you see still see
32:39
Speaker 1: Josh Allen walking off the field. He's got four pads
32:41
Speaker 1: in his hands. See, yes, everyone's telling him he's great,
32:44
Speaker 1: but he's still carrying everyone's past. This defensive leon has
32:47
Speaker 1: invested that they own it right. Coaches always talk about
32:50
Speaker 1: getting players to take accountability and ownership, but this group passed.
32:54
Speaker 1: You see the way that Klaus works. He goes up
32:56
Speaker 1: and down and they were doing past protection drills. He'd
32:59
Speaker 1: go from this group or over here, and as soon
33:01
Speaker 1: as this group was done, he'd be over here coaching
33:02
Speaker 1: whoever it was. And he goes all the way down
33:05
Speaker 1: to guys that you know aren't making this roster and
33:08
Speaker 1: keeps coaching. It's the same thing if you listen to
33:10
Speaker 1: Jalen in the backfield, he's talking to every corner about
33:14
Speaker 1: how their approach to a receiver or a quarterback or
33:17
Speaker 1: a route has to be. This group has taken ownership.
33:20
Speaker 1: That defensive group is fun to watch. Yeah, it's all
33:22
Speaker 1: about accountability. And if if you want to be in
33:25
Speaker 1: this league a long time, uh you're veteran guys and
33:28
Speaker 1: you've got your younger guys that come in, you gotta
33:30
Speaker 1: hold them accountable to everything, every particular. I tell people
33:34
Speaker 1: this all the time when I was coaching. I said,
33:35
Speaker 1: how you do a little things and how you do everything.
33:38
Speaker 1: So you gotta make sure these guys understand that the
33:40
Speaker 1: little things are work. When I'm out to the bigger
33:42
Speaker 1: things down the road, We'll be sure to watch these
33:45
Speaker 1: guys in the booth. I have one final thing I
33:47
Speaker 1: got say, Okay, say this whole Jalen Ramsey playing in
33:50
Speaker 1: Tennessee or Vegas thing. That's all I'm looking at the
33:53
Speaker 1: over your shoulder. I'm paying attention to the TV here.
33:56
Speaker 1: He's never going to play anywhere else. The Jaguars are
33:58
Speaker 1: going to pay him, right. But there's all kinds of
34:01
Speaker 1: Twitter traffic this morning because he was flippant in a
34:03
Speaker 1: podcast with Peter King. Is that in Busting with the
34:06
Speaker 1: Boys with Taylor the one? And if you listen to
34:08
Speaker 1: the podcast, it's very obvious he's joking and playing with
34:11
Speaker 1: the guys, but of course the headlines are gonna pull
34:13
Speaker 1: the negatives. It was a great podcast, definitely worth listening.
34:16
Speaker 1: He's gonna get paid. He's so freaking smart. I don't
34:19
Speaker 1: put it past him that the timing of when this
34:21
Speaker 1: came out, it's just just, you know, the Brinks truck
34:23
Speaker 1: to start camp and now this, Uh, there is no
34:27
Speaker 1: way they're gonna let that talent get away. I can't
34:30
Speaker 1: see it. And listen to the podcast, it'll alter your
34:33
Speaker 1: perception for sure. I will listen. Be sure to watch
34:36
Speaker 1: the TV broadcast tonight at seven thirty. Leon cr C,
34:39
Speaker 1: Brian Sexon in the booth, myself and Brent Martineau on
34:42
Speaker 1: the sidelines. We'll be back on Jack's Drive time Monday morning,
34:46
Speaker 1: back in Jacksonville. We'll see you then. Thanks the guys
34:52
Speaker 1: appreciate