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- 0:05Speaker 1: All systems going clear the lift. What's up every one?
- 0:37Speaker 1: Tyler Tambaline here aka Totagging Tambo back for another edition
- 0:41Speaker 1: of the Takedown Breakdown here on the Shiping Nation YouTube station.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Gonna break down all things week ten from the main winners.
- 0:47Speaker 1: GPPs had some members had some big days over at
- 0:49Speaker 1: Shipping Nation. Gonna look at Giant Squids millionmaker win another
- 0:53Speaker 1: one for him, so congrats to him. Just lots of
- 0:55Speaker 1: good stuff going on. Guy d drives up in the
- 0:57Speaker 1: mix and the million Maker. We'll talk about a little
- 0:58Speaker 1: bit of his unfortunate out but got my guy Naid's
- 1:01Speaker 1: here with me as always. Before I bring them in,
- 1:03Speaker 1: just want to say Happy Veterans Day to everybody out
- 1:05Speaker 1: there and thank you for your service. Thank you to
- 1:08Speaker 1: those that have served, support others that serve, everything that
- 1:11Speaker 1: goes with that of course, thank you. And then Happy
- 1:13Speaker 1: Remembrance Day to my Canadian side of the world as well,
- 1:16Speaker 1: all the same things of course, their needs. Bring you in. Man,
- 1:18Speaker 1: what's going on?
- 1:20Speaker 2: Not much? Not much? Yeah, Happy Happy Veterans Day to
- 1:23Speaker 2: all the men and women out there that have served.
- 1:25Speaker 2: The contrary, definitely appreciate that everyone who's who's involved with
- 1:28Speaker 2: that to set it better myself, so we we appreciate
- 1:31Speaker 2: that and can't do what we do every day without
- 1:34Speaker 2: you guys out there, So I appreciate that. And yeah, no, overall, Okay,
- 1:39Speaker 2: Sunday better than the last couple of weeks for sure. Obviously,
- 1:42Speaker 2: if you didn't have on a low scoring week, if
- 1:44Speaker 2: you don't have the thirty pointers, you're pretty much stone data.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Right when when it's not high scoring, I mean we're
- 1:50Speaker 2: talking one hundred and sixty seven points, right, was like
- 1:53Speaker 2: the cash line last week or the week before that,
- 1:56Speaker 2: And I mean that's what ship and ship and Millie makers.
- 1:59Speaker 2: So anytime we have a week like this, right, and
- 2:01Speaker 2: you kind of could could see it going in right
- 2:03Speaker 2: with the value value right when the Donnie Mitchell is
- 2:07Speaker 2: the best projected value with Joe Flacco, Joe Picco, whatever
- 2:10Speaker 2: you want to say right out there, you just know
- 2:13Speaker 2: it's going to be kind of a lower scoring week.
- 2:15Speaker 2: When these running backs have historically been in the kind
- 2:18Speaker 2: of the low six k range, we're up now up
- 2:20Speaker 2: in the high seven k, low eight k range, right,
- 2:23Speaker 2: So DraftKings kind of bump those running back prices up
- 2:25Speaker 2: and the rest of the value is pretty weak. So
- 2:27Speaker 2: you could kind of see overall the slate was kind
- 2:31Speaker 2: of shaping up to be kind of a lower scoring week.
- 2:33Speaker 2: But obviously you still need to put the puzzle pieces
- 2:36Speaker 2: together and get that. And I mean, if you didn't
- 2:38Speaker 2: have Bijon, you didn't have Black Purdy, you were pretty
- 2:41Speaker 2: much drawn stone dead from ship and anything.
- 2:44Speaker 1: So yeah, and we'll talk a lot about it too,
- 2:46Speaker 1: because I think the biggest thing going into yesterday's slate
- 2:48Speaker 1: was obviously how tough the pricing was, how hard it
- 2:51Speaker 1: was to make good lineups. We knew someone like Mitchell
- 2:54Speaker 1: was going to get pumped up. We knew the two
- 2:56Speaker 1: tight end builds where people could play a Henry or
- 2:58Speaker 1: something like that to make it work there. And again
- 3:00Speaker 1: not everything worked out, but just saying that was how
- 3:02Speaker 1: the how the slate shaped up really from the start,
- 3:05Speaker 1: And I think that was kind of the key, right.
- 3:06Speaker 1: If you knew that was the case, you got to
- 3:08Speaker 1: sort of look for those putting those thirty point plays
- 3:10Speaker 1: in there that you think can get to that, and
- 3:12Speaker 1: then just take as many as you can get along
- 3:14Speaker 1: the way, mixing some correlation, looking at some leverage. Well,
- 3:17Speaker 1: we'll cover that. I think two other comments I'll make
- 3:20Speaker 1: right out of the gate is one. It was. It
- 3:22Speaker 1: felt like it was easy to hit eighty two, one hundred.
- 3:24Speaker 1: It was very hard to break one thirty and then
- 3:27Speaker 1: get up over that one fifty plus barrier. We'll talk
- 3:29Speaker 1: about the people that did, of course, but like you know,
- 3:31Speaker 1: Sean Hobson says, that's what it's that's what this is
- 3:33Speaker 1: all about. Can't wait to live Vicars through the winners
- 3:35Speaker 1: because my lineus were a bone chilling winter freeze. I
- 3:38Speaker 1: know that was the case for some. I had a
- 3:39Speaker 1: couple of close calls as well. The second thing I'll
- 3:41Speaker 1: say is just what kept happening yesterday, and it's funny
- 3:44Speaker 1: when you get to Giant Squids winner later. I think
- 3:46Speaker 1: it's the best example of it. Everyone was complaining about
- 3:50Speaker 1: the chalk. This guy the chalk, that guy the chalk.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Eighty five percent of the field ain't playing them, and
- 3:55Speaker 1: there was actual chalk plays there and a lot of
- 3:57Speaker 1: them busted. So just little things like that that you
- 4:00Speaker 1: look at. It's you know, it's not how you it's
- 4:02Speaker 1: not who you play, it's how you play them. We
- 4:04Speaker 1: beat that one to death. It's a good point though,
- 4:06Speaker 1: and you'll see it when we get to these winning lineups,
- 4:08Speaker 1: there is that you could still find ways around that
- 4:10Speaker 1: and be able to make good lineups that ended up
- 4:12Speaker 1: putting yourself in a position to be able to win
- 4:14Speaker 1: these tournaments. And good, good players were up top yesterday
- 4:18Speaker 1: winning these tournaments, all that and such. So keep that
- 4:21Speaker 1: in mind as you go through it as well. And
- 4:22Speaker 1: it's any extra tidbits or points you want to add
- 4:24Speaker 1: on there with that kind of stuff.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think it's just anytime you get a
- 4:29Speaker 2: slate like yesterday, I found myself kind of for a minute,
- 4:32Speaker 2: right when I was kind of first opened up the
- 4:34Speaker 2: slate and looked at it right and was kind of
- 4:35Speaker 2: playing around with teams, finding myself trying to make these
- 4:38Speaker 2: really sporadic value plays work just because it wasn't, I mean,
- 4:43Speaker 2: it wasn't easy to build teams. And then I kind
- 4:45Speaker 2: of took a step back and I was like, wait
- 4:46Speaker 2: a minute, why why am I trying to force these
- 4:49Speaker 2: these random punt receivers. Oh what if it's this guy?
- 4:52Speaker 2: What if it's that guy? Right to make these teams?
- 4:55Speaker 2: How can I make that a little bit differently and
- 4:57Speaker 2: just kind of rearrange whether it's using two tight ends.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Because we talk about it, right. These tight ends are
- 5:03Speaker 2: priced like wide receiver twos and threes, and a lot
- 5:05Speaker 2: of times they're wide receiver ones and twos in their
- 5:07Speaker 2: respective offenses, right with injuries and things like that. So
- 5:10Speaker 2: that's one way to do it right. But I mean
- 5:13Speaker 2: it was pretty tough, and obviously you saw a lot
- 5:15Speaker 2: of sharp players win a lot of money yesterday because
- 5:18Speaker 2: of that, because they just know you don't have to
- 5:20Speaker 2: make the diamond and the roughs work on slates like this.
- 5:23Speaker 2: You just have to overall change your roster construction and
- 5:26Speaker 2: not jam in all the studs that typically right the
- 5:28Speaker 2: stars and scrubs bills that we've had the last couple
- 5:31Speaker 2: of weeks. So I found myself, and I'm sure a
- 5:33Speaker 2: lot of people out there in the chat kind of
- 5:34Speaker 2: found themselves when you're kind of hand hand plug in
- 5:37Speaker 2: or virtually handbuilding like I do myself, that you took
- 5:41Speaker 2: a look back at your team once you kind of
- 5:43Speaker 2: put it together, and you're like, how, what's the likelihood
- 5:46Speaker 2: of three of these guys getting there right at the
- 5:48Speaker 2: same time just to make these studs work? Right? So
- 5:52Speaker 2: I think that was a big call out yesterday, And
- 5:54Speaker 2: obviously you'll see some of that when we go through
- 5:57Speaker 2: some of these teams.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're allowed to build a balance, right, It's
- 6:00Speaker 1: the funny thing. It's like it's in the PGADF streets.
- 6:02Speaker 1: I was talking about that, like people going stars and scrubs,
- 6:04Speaker 1: Like you're allowed to use the mid range, so you're
- 6:06Speaker 1: allowed to do whatever you want. That's the beauty of
- 6:08Speaker 1: this game. So I think if that's what you were
- 6:10Speaker 1: struggling with yesterday, and you'll see when we get to
- 6:11Speaker 1: the MILLI Maker winner. Obviously that was something this one
- 6:14Speaker 1: certainly hurt. I had another run in with the Nashville
- 6:17Speaker 1: Live Final seat yesterday. I had the second highest ooned
- 6:21Speaker 1: Taysom in the Taysom Hill in the tournament, I came fifth.
- 6:24Speaker 1: The guy in front of me only had me by
- 6:26Speaker 1: zero point five, and I also had DeVante Adams and
- 6:30Speaker 1: so this would have had me way up in second,
- 6:33Speaker 1: and then I just needed Devanta Adams to do anything,
- 6:35Speaker 1: who also didn't do anything down the stretch. But another
- 6:37Speaker 1: fifth place made a little bit of cash that way.
- 6:39Speaker 1: But you know, still chasing, still getting after it. We
- 6:41Speaker 1: got plenty of time. Today is November eleventh, It's eleven eleven.
- 6:45Speaker 1: People like to make a wish at that time sometimes
- 6:47Speaker 1: and then also the qualifier tonight the four ninety Q,
- 6:51Speaker 1: so I'm gonna speak it into existence is the one
- 6:54Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eighth qualifier. My birthday is January twenty eighth,
- 6:58Speaker 1: so it's eleven eleven, one twenty eight. Gonna try and
- 7:00Speaker 1: make this baby happen. You know, I'm I was thinking
- 7:02Speaker 1: about the little things. Nad's but shout out to the crew.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Got Sean here, always looking to learn, go collect Michael Ortiz,
- 7:08Speaker 1: juice Will Levis's boy. He said he's coming to live boys.
- 7:11Speaker 1: It just didn't work out. Yesterday Shawn's they're talking about
- 7:14Speaker 1: j T and Nase just talked about the the Taysom
- 7:17Speaker 1: Hill and the new ones is in here, and yeah,
- 7:19Speaker 1: the NBS one that we clipped it, we threw it
- 7:21Speaker 1: in our discord. Hoop was getting a lot of flak
- 7:24Speaker 1: for that, but honestly, he's only ever taken dust and
- 7:26Speaker 1: turned it to gold. So I kind of want to say,
- 7:29Speaker 1: you know, you gotta be a little bit easy on
- 7:30Speaker 1: our guy, Hoop. It's a fun bit, but he's turned
- 7:33Speaker 1: Naj into, you know, a beautiful play. He's turned Dak
- 7:35Speaker 1: Prescott into a you know, two or fifty k winner.
- 7:38Speaker 1: He's done a lot of good when it comes to that.
- 7:39Speaker 1: But nids, let's move on. Let's get to the perfect
- 7:42Speaker 1: lineup and have a look. And funny enough, Kyler Murray
- 7:46Speaker 1: opposite side of the the other one that people are
- 7:49Speaker 1: calling dust now is the Aaron or Sir Aaron Rodgers stuff.
- 7:53Speaker 1: It was Kyler Murray on that side, but you got
- 7:56Speaker 1: Murray forty nine nine, two hundred and fourteen. So this
- 7:58Speaker 1: is how you could have done it. But you know,
- 8:00Speaker 1: Valdez Scantling pumps it up. You will see though, you
- 8:04Speaker 1: know Eagles, Connor, Kelsey, Ridley personal like a lot of
- 8:08Speaker 1: these other guys did show up, not really White or
- 8:11Speaker 1: Valdez Scantling, but a lot of these other guys did
- 8:13Speaker 1: still show up. Give me your thoughts on the perfect lineup?
- 8:15Speaker 1: Anything you see here?
- 8:17Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Kyler thing right when everybody right was
- 8:20Speaker 2: kind of in that quarterback tier, kind of going with
- 8:25Speaker 2: guys like obviously Brock Purdy right, who still did get there.
- 8:28Speaker 2: But Sam Darnold right was another guy in that kind
- 8:31Speaker 2: of range. And not only that, on the opposite side
- 8:33Speaker 2: right of the Aaron Rodgers stuff that everybody's trying to
- 8:35Speaker 2: make work to in that same game, pairing him with
- 8:37Speaker 2: the James Conner. We've talked about that a lot last year.
- 8:39Speaker 2: Tambell right, just kind of soaking up the entire red
- 8:42Speaker 2: zone right on a team right with a guy like
- 8:45Speaker 2: James Connor who is also involved, heavily involved in the
- 8:47Speaker 2: passing game, right that quarterback running back stack, and obviously
- 8:51Speaker 2: we ship demizer. We have settings and stuff that you
- 8:54Speaker 2: can make that work to get teams like this right
- 8:56Speaker 2: where you just kind of soak up that whole thing.
- 8:59Speaker 2: Not only that, right, a guy like Trey McBride, a
- 9:01Speaker 2: guy like Marvin Harrison are super expensive on a week
- 9:04Speaker 2: where there's no value, right, So taking that value quote
- 9:07Speaker 2: unquote running back right, you can make it work and
- 9:10Speaker 2: then plugging in the good plays around it. I mean
- 9:12Speaker 2: the rashot Wright play right when everyone was trying to
- 9:14Speaker 2: play Ky Dotton right at fifty five hundred going up
- 9:17Speaker 2: four hundred bucks to a guy like Rashad White on
- 9:20Speaker 2: that offense. Also outside of all the sterling shepherds right
- 9:24Speaker 2: who obviously had late news there and the mcmillions and
- 9:29Speaker 2: those guys work just go on the play that has
- 9:32Speaker 2: been heavily involved even in the passing game right on
- 9:35Speaker 2: that team, so you could have got to a similar
- 9:37Speaker 2: type team. Obviously, nobody was really getting to Marquez Veldez scalaling,
- 9:42Speaker 2: and you'll see he wasn't obviously needed. Everyone thought the
- 9:44Speaker 2: slate was over in the first time window. When a
- 9:46Speaker 2: thirty nine hundred dude that's less than one percent owned
- 9:49Speaker 2: goes off and drops thirty points, you kind of just
- 9:51Speaker 2: laugh at that, right you chalk it up, you make
- 9:53Speaker 2: a fun bit out of hoop and things like that,
- 9:56Speaker 2: but you knew realistically that if even if you had
- 9:59Speaker 2: them in your lineup, it was usually tied to a
- 10:01Speaker 2: Derek Carr or is it tied to the opposite side, right,
- 10:04Speaker 2: the Kirk Cousins type stacks, and those were dead right.
- 10:08Speaker 2: So all that, even if you have the fancy screenshot
- 10:12Speaker 2: right out there people on Twitter and things like that,
- 10:15Speaker 2: tal no I played Mark uz Vela's scaling, Congratulations, you
- 10:18Speaker 2: struck lightning in a bottle. But guess what, your your
- 10:20Speaker 2: lineup probably still didn't make anything because of that. So
- 10:24Speaker 2: that's another thing too, is just like when you know
- 10:26Speaker 2: a dude, especially at that ownership in a slate when
- 10:29Speaker 2: it's the first time slot it's the first half of
- 10:32Speaker 2: these games, and he goes off for two touchdowns. He's
- 10:34Speaker 2: under one percent owns he doesn't he's not needed to
- 10:37Speaker 2: win any sort of contest. Obviously, he's gonna find the
- 10:41Speaker 2: perfect lineup, right when a thirty nine hundred drops thirty, Right,
- 10:44Speaker 2: But you're not playing to be perfect, You're playing to
- 10:46Speaker 2: win tournaments, right, So I mean that's the one one
- 10:50Speaker 2: thing happen fourteen.
- 10:51Speaker 1: I love that rant because I'm gonna run off at
- 10:53Speaker 1: for a second too. But two fourteen versus one seventy
- 10:55Speaker 1: eight was a rock star score and won the million yesterday?
- 10:58Speaker 1: So do you want to have that conmerce quick? And
- 11:00Speaker 1: then I got some good ones in the chat I
- 11:01Speaker 1: want to bring up. And then we'll go on to
- 11:03Speaker 1: the million maker winner. And we've got plenty of reviews
- 11:05Speaker 1: coming up. We've got members and aids. You had a
- 11:07Speaker 1: nice line up there. We'll go through that. A couple
- 11:09Speaker 1: of people hit me up on X posted theirs. We'll
- 11:11Speaker 1: show it all off and more. Our guy Dirty Chic
- 11:13Speaker 1: won the one hundred and forty k on six hundred
- 11:15Speaker 1: dollars yesterday, So congrats to him. I know is his stepbrother.
- 11:19Speaker 1: He helped him out as well, So that was just
- 11:20Speaker 1: awesome to see. But just to say the Valdez scantling thing,
- 11:24Speaker 1: I know a lot of people knew it was a
- 11:26Speaker 1: bit and that that it's funny, But I also think
- 11:28Speaker 1: there was tons of people that thought life was over
- 11:30Speaker 1: and like we didn't get to him, we made a
- 11:31Speaker 1: huge mistake. What ends up happening on the winning lineup,
- 11:35Speaker 1: that's a hard one to explain and get across and
- 11:37Speaker 1: help people understand, I would say, but just a little
- 11:38Speaker 1: bit from my experience at least playing a long time,
- 11:42Speaker 1: Your result of your winning lineup, when you win a GPP,
- 11:45Speaker 1: if you win a GPP, or when you get up
- 11:47Speaker 1: there and have a nice sweat, whatever it might be,
- 11:49Speaker 1: is a result of what you put on your team.
- 11:51Speaker 1: You built it, that's what's on the team. It got
- 11:53Speaker 1: to the winners, the top winner circle what every want
- 11:55Speaker 1: to call it, and you're good to go. But it's
- 11:57Speaker 1: what the rest of the field is doing. That's why
- 11:59Speaker 1: people can win at random sports that everyone's like, oh,
- 12:02Speaker 1: I don't know anything, how does he doesn't know anything
- 12:03Speaker 1: about NASCAR? How does he win? He doesn't know anything
- 12:05Speaker 1: about NHL? How does he win? He? She? They don't
- 12:09Speaker 1: need to. They have to know about DFS. Marcus Valdez
- 12:12Speaker 1: Scantling was zero point four percent owned. Your screenshot was
- 12:15Speaker 1: most likely worth zero because you had nothing else right
- 12:18Speaker 1: with it. And even on a two hundred thousand person field,
- 12:21Speaker 1: you don't get bonus points for calling one play. You
- 12:24Speaker 1: need to put all nine together. So congrats, and there's
- 12:27Speaker 1: all other stuff that goes with it. It's not shitting
- 12:28Speaker 1: on people that played them. It's saying the reason nobody
- 12:31Speaker 1: cares about that and it doesn't matter as much is
- 12:34Speaker 1: because out of two hundred thousand people, nine hundred teams
- 12:37Speaker 1: had him. Do you know how many of those teams
- 12:39Speaker 1: are garbage right out of the gate. They're built poorly,
- 12:41Speaker 1: they have other bad plays in them. Think about the
- 12:43Speaker 1: people that are making the decision to play that, and
- 12:46Speaker 1: then you're gonna count on one good result to say
- 12:48Speaker 1: that they're sharp because of that. No, the rest of
- 12:50Speaker 1: their lineup is probably trash, And so you shouldn't actually
- 12:52Speaker 1: be that scared of something like that. You should be
- 12:54Speaker 1: way more worried if a play like Aaron Jones gets
- 12:58Speaker 1: forty and you're, you know, way under you didn't play
- 13:00Speaker 1: the chalk that you know he was in a good
- 13:02Speaker 1: spot and again he bust. I'm just saying, my point
- 13:04Speaker 1: being that's what should worry you, not a guy that's
- 13:06Speaker 1: point four percent on the slate and he literally had
- 13:10Speaker 1: to have it. He was on three catches that he
- 13:12Speaker 1: got it done. So it's like, again, gotta think about
- 13:15Speaker 1: all those factors going into it. That would be the
- 13:17Speaker 1: one there, all right, a couple other things just to
- 13:20Speaker 1: look at, like, yeah, it's narrow, tare it didn't. It
- 13:23Speaker 1: doesn't matter though, like that's it got you there. It
- 13:25Speaker 1: didn't even by the way, one lineup in the top
- 13:28Speaker 1: ten of the entire milliy maker and it was fifth place.
- 13:31Speaker 1: Beyond that, it was like twelve twentieth work like it.
- 13:33Speaker 1: It's not likely that it's gonna get there because that
- 13:35Speaker 1: it's one play. You need a whole lineup to get there.
- 13:38Speaker 1: It's the guy that you know sits around the table
- 13:39Speaker 1: and tells you about his betting parlay. He bets twelve
- 13:42Speaker 1: gamers twelve legs every day and always hits nine of
- 13:45Speaker 1: them like you're always hits, you know, seven and five
- 13:48Speaker 1: of them were so close though it's nothing. It's worth
- 13:51Speaker 1: the same thing. Zero shalou my boy. This was brutal right.
- 13:55Speaker 1: It was annoying because it kind of interjected on the
- 13:57Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd stuff. First of all, for you one verse
- 14:00Speaker 1: forty two hundred, thought you had a good value play
- 14:02Speaker 1: kind of just stuck with it. Projections still like miss Shepherd.
- 14:05Speaker 1: So I stayed with it, and I thought about it,
- 14:07Speaker 1: and maybe they still use him. I will say, this
- 14:09Speaker 1: Baker team with a Bucks team, whatever you want to
- 14:12Speaker 1: put the name on it, of what they do now
- 14:14Speaker 1: running back tight end, running back tight end. It's been
- 14:17Speaker 1: that way since these injuries. I will say, though you
- 14:20Speaker 1: posted in the discord about a one hundred k late swap,
- 14:23Speaker 1: and I've certainly had that happen before I spoke about
- 14:25Speaker 1: it on this very show. I would just say, like,
- 14:28Speaker 1: what's your normal process and was this it? Because that's
- 14:31Speaker 1: the only way you can really be unhappy about it,
- 14:33Speaker 1: and you know strongly feel that way moving forward. Obviously
- 14:36Speaker 1: it sucks missing out on six figures. I'm just saying,
- 14:40Speaker 1: you know, just got to think about it from that perspective.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Why did you swap? Did you need to swap like
- 14:44Speaker 1: mconkie or Ridley. I don't even know, like you'd have
- 14:46Speaker 1: to know more about the field you were in, if
- 14:49Speaker 1: you thought you were blocked, if you thought it was
- 14:50Speaker 1: a better projection. But if you do, if you did
- 14:53Speaker 1: what you always do, don't be worried about it. If
- 14:55Speaker 1: you did something you never do, you can stress a
- 14:57Speaker 1: little bit more about it and feel that way, I think.
- 14:59Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't see much else here in AIDS.
- 15:01Speaker 1: Let's keep it moving, you know. I think it's just
- 15:04Speaker 1: part of that process. But back to this one here, like, yeah,
- 15:07Speaker 1: it was a solid score on that build. Let's break
- 15:10Speaker 1: it down. So I don't know Giant Squid that well.
- 15:12Speaker 1: I've had the you know, the opportunity to meet him
- 15:14Speaker 1: a few times at Live finals. Always great dude, very polite.
- 15:17Speaker 1: Does this thing over at Sabersim and everything there. Awesome
- 15:20Speaker 1: win for him, another million maker win. But this is
- 15:23Speaker 1: the lineup, and congrats to him. I thought this was
- 15:25Speaker 1: a good example of a lot of the things we
- 15:26Speaker 1: talked about in AIDS. Very balanced, right, didn't just say
- 15:30Speaker 1: I have to play two tight ends to get a
- 15:32Speaker 1: cheap hunter Henry and obviously as a whole portfolio of lineups,
- 15:35Speaker 1: but this is the one that escaped it and got
- 15:37Speaker 1: to the top. But no Mitchell, no mac Collins, no
- 15:40Speaker 1: real anything right and willing to play a combo pack
- 15:43Speaker 1: of the Noah Brown and Eckler. We've seen that workout,
- 15:46Speaker 1: had the Calvin Ridley had the stack still didn't need
- 15:50Speaker 1: to run it back right, didn't need to bring somebody
- 15:52Speaker 1: back from the Tampa side and try and figure out
- 15:53Speaker 1: that situation. So kick it to you, Naids. But I
- 15:56Speaker 1: thought the one that came through out of his bunch
- 15:58Speaker 1: certainly was a pretty good lineup here and used up
- 16:01Speaker 1: forty nine to nine, had some leverage pieces in it.
- 16:03Speaker 1: But I'll kick it. Do you your thoughts on the
- 16:05Speaker 1: winning line up here from Giant Squid?
- 16:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this build a lot. The Juwan Jennings
- 16:11Speaker 2: play right with no a jut there. They've They've shown
- 16:13Speaker 2: to love Juwan Jennings. He's also in that mid tier
- 16:16Speaker 2: right if you were going to Purdy and you wanted
- 16:18Speaker 2: to stack him with Kittle, because you couldn't. You couldn't
- 16:21Speaker 2: get up right with the value. We talked about it already,
- 16:23Speaker 2: You couldn't get up to a CMC. Deebo made the
- 16:26Speaker 2: stack a little bit tighter, right because at his price point,
- 16:29Speaker 2: even though he was I thought he was a good value.
- 16:31Speaker 2: I know you thought he was a good value at
- 16:32Speaker 2: the price point for the slate, it still made it
- 16:34Speaker 2: hard to double stack party when you got Juwan Jennings
- 16:38Speaker 2: wide receiver two, who's who's kind of in that five
- 16:40Speaker 2: K range, and then Kittle's to spend up tight end
- 16:42Speaker 2: where people wanted to kind of get value from the
- 16:44Speaker 2: dead end spot. It just made it tough to stack
- 16:47Speaker 2: it and double stack it with Deebo. So going to
- 16:49Speaker 2: Juwan there, that's kind of can play that. I you
- 16:53Speaker 2: great possession type role. Same with Kittle, who's also been
- 16:56Speaker 2: smashing right as of late. I thought that was an
- 16:58Speaker 2: interesting way to to double stack Party. Obviously, that was
- 17:02Speaker 2: good playing the Eckler play. I'm surprised. I'm shocked by
- 17:06Speaker 2: Eckler's ownership yesterday. I love Eckler. The reason I loved
- 17:10Speaker 2: Eckler is, no matter what the game script was, he's involved, right,
- 17:15Speaker 2: He's a great pass catcher out of the backfield. They
- 17:17Speaker 2: have Chris Rodriguez is kind of their other guy right
- 17:20Speaker 2: in there. That is kind of the quote unquote running
- 17:23Speaker 2: back right that they want to pound. But they've been
- 17:26Speaker 2: shown right when when Brian Robinson isn't in there, if
- 17:29Speaker 2: they're trying to run it's gonna be Jaden Daniels usually
- 17:31Speaker 2: kind of keeping it and then they're kind of just
- 17:33Speaker 2: filtering and Rodriguez right here and there. I love the
- 17:37Speaker 2: Eckler play. He was one of the best values on
- 17:39Speaker 2: the slate yesterday. I thought I was shocked at his
- 17:41Speaker 2: ownership what was held in check. Obviously there was a
- 17:43Speaker 2: ton of good running back plays yesterday, but I was
- 17:45Speaker 2: really shocked at that. So playing that you didn't really
- 17:48Speaker 2: need to correlate him. It was just kind of a
- 17:50Speaker 2: one off throw it in there, get your value from him.
- 17:53Speaker 2: You didn't need anything on the Pittsburgh spode obviously, the Eckler,
- 17:58Speaker 2: the Eckler Pickens kind of mini sacked there, but comboing
- 18:01Speaker 2: it with Noah Brown right, kind of the possession possession
- 18:05Speaker 2: guy there, who's also in that same range, right forty
- 18:07Speaker 2: three hundred, a little bit more expensive than the Adannie Mitchells,
- 18:11Speaker 2: but right in that same range of the mcmillans, the
- 18:13Speaker 2: Sterling Shepherds of the world, right, So I like that
- 18:17Speaker 2: kind of combo pack. Hey, no matter what the game
- 18:19Speaker 2: script environment is, Noah Brown still there, the possession guy.
- 18:23Speaker 2: So I like that kind of stacked there and then
- 18:26Speaker 2: just plugging it in with kind of the good plays,
- 18:28Speaker 2: right that Kevin Ridley, who since DeAndre Hopkins has been
- 18:31Speaker 2: gone in that offense, he's wide receiver one at sub
- 18:35Speaker 2: six K in a game script where you're expecting them
- 18:38Speaker 2: to be trailing the entire game. Yeah it's Will Levis,
- 18:42Speaker 2: Yeah it's that, but it's literally a trailing game script
- 18:46Speaker 2: against a Chargers defense, right, who you know is going
- 18:50Speaker 2: to be pretty popular, as well as the spend up.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Everybody was trying to make the Herbert stuff work and
- 18:54Speaker 2: things like that. So I think overall it's leveraged pretty good. Right,
- 18:58Speaker 2: the New England defense on the other side of the
- 19:01Speaker 2: Browns or the Bears defense, Right, you're also leveraging because
- 19:04Speaker 2: you know you ain't got DeAndre Swift, Right, you don't
- 19:07Speaker 2: have a Swift in this lineup, you don't have the Bears,
- 19:09Speaker 2: So why not play the opposite defense of the chalk
- 19:11Speaker 2: We've seen this work. It feels like every single week, right,
- 19:14Speaker 2: you talk about in Tampbeall the opposite defense of the
- 19:17Speaker 2: of the defense that everybody wants to spend down. Right,
- 19:20Speaker 2: defense is such a high variant onesie position. Right, look
- 19:23Speaker 2: at the first play of the game yesterday in that
- 19:27Speaker 2: Bills game, right, pick six to start the game right instantly,
- 19:30Speaker 2: so you're you're kind of minted. So overall, I think
- 19:33Speaker 2: it was leveraged really good. The James Connor play just
- 19:37Speaker 2: as a leverage piece off of that entire Jets team
- 19:41Speaker 2: when people are going to that team. Yeah, they were
- 19:43Speaker 2: kind of playing Connor, but his ownership even got held
- 19:45Speaker 2: in check because of all the other running backs. Right,
- 19:47Speaker 2: So playing it when you don't have any of the
- 19:49Speaker 2: Jets guys, right, the Breist Halls, the DeVante Adams, the
- 19:52Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson's, the Aaron Rodgers just playing Hey maybe Connor,
- 19:55Speaker 2: maybe Arizona just kind of blows them, smashes them in
- 19:58Speaker 2: and it's James Connor. So overall think it was built
- 20:00Speaker 2: really well. You had your leverage plays built in there, right,
- 20:04Speaker 2: like the Ridley, the James Connor sub ten percent guys
- 20:08Speaker 2: who are definitely involved in their respective teams. And it's
- 20:11Speaker 2: not kind of throwing darts at the wall. Oh I
- 20:12Speaker 2: need to find Marquez Valdez skantling, right, or this dude
- 20:16Speaker 2: that's going to get three snaps and maybe he catches
- 20:19Speaker 2: a sixty yard touchdown. Right, you still got guys in good,
- 20:23Speaker 2: good spots environments, in good game game environments that are
- 20:26Speaker 2: respective to help them score fantasy points.
- 20:28Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a few things real quick, because you know,
- 20:31Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts in my head right now. I'll
- 20:32Speaker 1: pull up something in a minute because the chat was
- 20:34Speaker 1: asking about it also, but just to note, like the
- 20:36Speaker 1: first one off the top, and I talked a little
- 20:37Speaker 1: bit about this on The Mayo Show on Friday, a
- 20:39Speaker 1: little bit on the Sunday Show with Hoop and Title yesterday.
- 20:41Speaker 1: But I think people continuously forget this same point that
- 20:45Speaker 1: I want to make. We literally just talked about it
- 20:46Speaker 1: last week on this show how the previous week's million
- 20:49Speaker 1: Maker winner had said he had fifty percent Tyreek Hill
- 20:53Speaker 1: and went out to walk the dog because he assumed
- 20:54Speaker 1: his day was over, and later on he wins when
- 20:57Speaker 1: you're building and if you have one lineup, I get it.
- 20:59Speaker 1: We talked a lot about MME and I understand that.
- 21:01Speaker 1: I think that's a common thread. I'll show the launch
- 21:05Speaker 1: announcement in a second for my project coming up. I
- 21:07Speaker 1: think a lot of the questions I got are a
- 21:09Speaker 1: lot of the content is tailor to MM. Can we
- 21:11Speaker 1: talk some more one to three max and we'll work
- 21:13Speaker 1: on that. But I will say just quickly, if you're here,
- 21:16Speaker 1: we're often talking about portfolios. Even if it's a twenty
- 21:19Speaker 1: max portfolio, doesn't matter how you're handling if you're a
- 21:21Speaker 1: three max portfolio, how you're handling your three lineups. There's
- 21:24Speaker 1: so many things to talk about, and the one thing
- 21:26Speaker 1: I'll say is when you're building your lineups, you're building
- 21:29Speaker 1: for them to go that way. Like if you're building
- 21:31Speaker 1: with CMC, you're expecting him to play in full. Let's
- 21:34Speaker 1: say the announcement didn't come out yesterday. I talked this
- 21:36Speaker 1: with Mayo on Friday. We were putting CMC in saying
- 21:39Speaker 1: we expect if he's playing, he's playing in full. If
- 21:41Speaker 1: he doesn't play in full, if he gets re injured,
- 21:43Speaker 1: if something else happens, clearly those lineups are dead. But
- 21:46Speaker 1: I've got other lineups built in different ways for other
- 21:49Speaker 1: scenarios happening. And I think that comes into play here
- 21:52Speaker 1: huge because just at the defense alone, you talked about.
- 21:55Speaker 1: Three of the best defenses yesterday were New England going
- 21:58Speaker 1: up against the chalkiest dat Chicago on the slate and
- 22:01Speaker 1: one of the chockier running backs in the value range. Again,
- 22:04Speaker 1: he didn't get that high, but just to say, I
- 22:05Speaker 1: don't know what DeAndre Swift's final ownership was, but he
- 22:08Speaker 1: had to be up there a little bit.
- 22:09Speaker 2: So it was the fourth highestone. So the Bears defense
- 22:13Speaker 2: is the third highest zone player in the entire Millie
- 22:15Speaker 2: Maker for the twenty dollars. Swift was the fourth highest
- 22:18Speaker 2: behind Aaron Jones and Hopkins. So there were three and
- 22:20Speaker 2: four plays on the entire slate.
- 22:23Speaker 1: So there's New England. D don't care if they got
- 22:25Speaker 1: to twelve percent. Almost ninety percent of the field eighty
- 22:27Speaker 1: eight is not playing them. The second one, Jacksonville Jaguars,
- 22:31Speaker 1: they did quite well, I think against Darnold seeing ghosts
- 22:34Speaker 1: out there. Who was the highest doone running back on
- 22:36Speaker 1: the slate?
- 22:37Speaker 2: Aaron Jones highestone player on the entire slate overall.
- 22:41Speaker 1: Heany the third one. And everyone say, it's the results oriented.
- 22:44Speaker 1: We don't know what happens until today. We don't know
- 22:47Speaker 1: until last night when it ends, and when we review
- 22:49Speaker 1: it today. So remember we're using the results to explain
- 22:52Speaker 1: a concept that you may or may not already get.
- 22:54Speaker 1: That's okay, you know, that's about trying to learn and
- 22:57Speaker 1: get better and focus on it. The last one I
- 22:59Speaker 1: was going to say is Tennessee, Right, was it the Titans?
- 23:04Speaker 1: Or sorry? Who was the other one that crushed yesterday? Oh? Buffalo?
- 23:07Speaker 1: Sorry the Bills? Who were everybody? A hambas aDNA Mitchell,
- 23:12Speaker 1: highest little value guy, Josh Down's other one? Even Flacco
- 23:15Speaker 1: builds who I was in on too. So people have
- 23:17Speaker 1: to remember when I'm building my Flacco builds, I'm not
- 23:20Speaker 1: doing that. But when I'm looking at it, these are
- 23:22Speaker 1: just three. These are three defenses. Everyone's going to point
- 23:25Speaker 1: to the results. No, that's just a great way to
- 23:27Speaker 1: use this as an explanatory piece to let you know
- 23:30Speaker 1: why I'm why I'm explaining this. It's the defenses. Nobody
- 23:34Speaker 1: thinks they're amazing or anything like that. This is the
- 23:37Speaker 1: whole point. They don't have to be. Most people look
- 23:39Speaker 1: at the game log say, there's no way I'm playing
- 23:40Speaker 1: everyone against them. I'm gonna onslaught against them. I'm gonna
- 23:43Speaker 1: play multiple of these guys, and some of those still
- 23:45Speaker 1: got there. You'll see in the winning lineups where certain
- 23:48Speaker 1: combinations still got there. Of where was it here? I
- 23:51Speaker 1: thought I saw? Let me see what was it? The
- 23:55Speaker 1: next one? Right here? Look at this third place in
- 23:58Speaker 1: the Millie for fifty k. I still got there with Mitchell,
- 24:02Speaker 1: Flacco Pierce. I mean you can still have good scores
- 24:04Speaker 1: with them, just saying to explain that theory of you know,
- 24:07Speaker 1: some of that stuff you're just using against the field
- 24:09Speaker 1: on purpose because it's the fastest way to leverage up
- 24:12Speaker 1: the board. That's how you got to think about that stuff.
- 24:14Speaker 1: So I wanted to bring that up. The other thing quick, ads,
- 24:17Speaker 1: I'll just bring it up on the stone. People asking
- 24:18Speaker 1: about like value plays and stuff. We had a lot
- 24:20Speaker 1: a lot of it here, Like McNichols is the other guy.
- 24:24Speaker 1: If people are worried about Rodriguez and Nichols, though, that's
- 24:27Speaker 1: just like a combo pack of the Sean Tucker the
- 24:29Speaker 1: week that he got there. Clearly, if you're worried about that,
- 24:31Speaker 1: you're saying, this must be a pretty damn good spot
- 24:33Speaker 1: if I'm so worried that the other dudes are going
- 24:35Speaker 1: to come in and get scores too. Fifty eight hundred
- 24:38Speaker 1: bucks No, Brian Robinson. The snaps were a little bit
- 24:41Speaker 1: split the week before, but it was also I think
- 24:43Speaker 1: Eckler went out for came back, so little things like that.
- 24:45Speaker 1: But at fifty eight hundred on a slate where your
- 24:47Speaker 1: starved for value thirteen point three percent to be optimal.
- 24:51Speaker 1: He came in at like fifteen. It's fine, Noah Brown.
- 24:53Speaker 1: Another guy came in really solid here ten percent, Pickens
- 24:57Speaker 1: nine and a half percent, Ridley almost nine percent. Quentin
- 25:01Speaker 1: Johnston scored a touchdown almost nine like. It doesn't mean
- 25:04Speaker 1: it's all going to work. It's just again to show
- 25:06Speaker 1: it off that some of these plays that are popping
- 25:08Speaker 1: up made a lot of sense because of that. So
- 25:12Speaker 1: we had you all covered there and I guess lastly,
- 25:14Speaker 1: Nathan and I'll kick it back to you. This is
- 25:17Speaker 1: results oriented, but it fits with what I just talked
- 25:19Speaker 1: about with the defenses and with the Christian McCaffrey thing.
- 25:21Speaker 1: If you're building build for what you you know, you're
- 25:23Speaker 1: building for what you want to happen, and then putting
- 25:25Speaker 1: game theory, correlation and leverage into the build. But results
- 25:29Speaker 1: oriented is that, yes, the high end backs did not
- 25:32Speaker 1: get there, the Barclays of the world, the CMCs, the
- 25:36Speaker 1: Camara's not really because you have Vijon on the opposite side,
- 25:39Speaker 1: but on a slate where you were starved for value
- 25:42Speaker 1: and you had Connor at you know, eleven hundred less
- 25:45Speaker 1: than bres Hall who didn't get there, fifty eight hundred
- 25:47Speaker 1: for Eckler. We just talked about seventy seven hundred instead
- 25:50Speaker 1: of eighty one on the opposite side of Kamara. You
- 25:54Speaker 1: could have made cases that it is in the opposite
- 25:56Speaker 1: lineups of doing this that Again, I have my CMC
- 25:59Speaker 1: builds the rest of my port talking about if CMC
- 26:02Speaker 1: doesn't get there, that's one guy that I'm knocking off.
- 26:04Speaker 1: If Barkley doesn't get there, because there is Hurtz, Brown Smith,
- 26:08Speaker 1: even Goddard back by the way, and they're fully healthy.
- 26:11Speaker 1: Well maybe that's the case. You know, you had balanced
- 26:14Speaker 1: guys that you could put in here, you know, Jonathan Taylor,
- 26:17Speaker 1: all that. So the fact that he got you know,
- 26:19Speaker 1: Noah Brown, Jennings, Ridley instead of going to the three
- 26:23Speaker 1: K guys went cheap at D, mid range everywhere else.
- 26:27Speaker 1: That's the type of builds that got to the top yesterday.
- 26:29Speaker 1: This is just the result of one that got to
- 26:31Speaker 1: the very top.
- 26:32Speaker 2: Any got the Yeah, I got one more thing too,
- 26:34Speaker 2: because I think it plays good into this. Obviously, I'm
- 26:37Speaker 2: sure he had one hundred and fifty teams in here
- 26:39Speaker 2: and built his portfolio through through an optimizer, right through
- 26:41Speaker 2: through Saber obviously Saber. But here's the thing, running back possession, right,
- 26:47Speaker 2: Aaron Johnson was projected to by the chalk who was
- 26:49Speaker 2: projected to be the second highestone running back on a
- 26:51Speaker 2: slate Bjhon Robinson. However, why did Bjeon Robinson not come
- 26:54Speaker 2: in is the second highest one running back? Because the
- 26:57Speaker 2: news broke about CMC RIGHTMC was eight k three hundred
- 27:01Speaker 2: dollars cheaper than bon or three hundred dollars more expensive
- 27:04Speaker 2: than Bijon. If you're not playing CMC right, why not
- 27:07Speaker 2: play the passing side? But not only that? Who was
- 27:10Speaker 2: else right there? Alvin Kamara eighty one hundred, So Bijon
- 27:13Speaker 2: you knew ownership was getting pulled from a guy like
- 27:16Speaker 2: Bijon Robinson right to a Kamara. You knew ownership was
- 27:19Speaker 2: being pulled from a guy like kamaraw to CMC, which,
- 27:22Speaker 2: in turn, why not just play the guy who's projected
- 27:26Speaker 2: to be the highestone running back on the slate behind
- 27:28Speaker 2: Aaron Jones right when you knew ownership was getting pulled
- 27:31Speaker 2: away from him at that? So that's also leveraged baked
- 27:34Speaker 2: in right there, because you're not gonna play. I mean,
- 27:36Speaker 2: you could have played CMC in an onslot build like this,
- 27:39Speaker 2: But when you're building for this, you're hoping, hey, I'm
- 27:42Speaker 2: playing the guy in that range right to eat everyone
- 27:45Speaker 2: else's lunch. And then I'm hoping party does it through
- 27:47Speaker 2: the air to also eat CMC. So that's another baked
- 27:51Speaker 2: and leverage piece there, And I think important to kind
- 27:54Speaker 2: of look at when news like that breaks. It's always
- 27:56Speaker 2: everybody wants to make the shiny new tool right work,
- 28:01Speaker 2: And yeah, could you say it's result oriented, but the
- 28:05Speaker 2: good value plays are the highest projected own guys are
- 28:08Speaker 2: in those spots for a reason early on in the
- 28:10Speaker 2: week when people are building their teams, right, and then
- 28:13Speaker 2: you just know everybody wants to pivot. It's the same
- 28:15Speaker 2: thing in late news and NBA and other sports, right,
- 28:17Speaker 2: everybody wants to jump on the other guys. The other
- 28:20Speaker 2: guys were projected to be good plays for a reason, right,
- 28:23Speaker 2: This new news doesn't just make those guys bad plays
- 28:26Speaker 2: in turn. Right, So that's another thing to keep in mind.
- 28:29Speaker 2: Right on why Vijon kind of came in under what
- 28:32Speaker 2: he was projected at, you got to look at kind
- 28:34Speaker 2: of the entire slate and speaking true of my word.
- 28:36Speaker 1: Just on what you said of the MME down to
- 28:38Speaker 1: single entry. I think that's the whole point. Whatever your
- 28:40Speaker 1: portfolio is, you should be thinking of that. If you
- 28:43Speaker 1: build out your portfolio in MME and you're loving CMC
- 28:47Speaker 1: on this slate, you're playing thirty percent, you say, screw this,
- 28:50Speaker 1: I want to be first in on him. I'm playing that. Well,
- 28:52Speaker 1: that's thirty percent of your one hundred percent portfolio. So
- 28:56Speaker 1: why I hope you've got some pretty stacks without with sieves,
- 29:00Speaker 1: it whatever. Because if you really think he's gonna smash,
- 29:03Speaker 1: it means you think the forty nine ers are gonna smash.
- 29:05Speaker 1: Like that's just what your lineups are. You're telling your
- 29:07Speaker 1: your optimizer to make it that way, or you're thinking
- 29:09Speaker 1: it's gonna go that way, or you're trusting the projections
- 29:11Speaker 1: to say it's gonna happen that way. Build the secondary piece,
- 29:14Speaker 1: the level into your portfolio. Talk about building in sets.
- 29:17Speaker 1: That's another way. Maybe you build twenty lineups where you're
- 29:19Speaker 1: locking CMC around different quarterbacks, and then you're building ten
- 29:23Speaker 1: lineups with CMC with Purdy, and then you're building a
- 29:26Speaker 1: bunch of lineups with Purty no, CMC, like you can
- 29:28Speaker 1: do it like that example, and that trickles down. If
- 29:32Speaker 1: you got twenty max, you got to make that decision.
- 29:34Speaker 1: Play lighter, play tighter. I always say that means you're
- 29:36Speaker 1: probably just tightening up what you're doing there. Maybe you're
- 29:38Speaker 1: getting some more overweight stances. You're not spreading it out
- 29:41Speaker 1: as much. You're saying, I've got this tight portfolio, this
- 29:44Speaker 1: twenty lineups out of a bigger player pool that you know,
- 29:46Speaker 1: a bigger field of entries. Maybe I'm just gonna, you know,
- 29:49Speaker 1: go this way and single undry should be the same
- 29:51Speaker 1: if you're not playing CMC, just using him as the
- 29:53Speaker 1: example only here. But if you're not playing CMC, do
- 29:56Speaker 1: you think the forty nine ers still smash, well, then
- 29:58Speaker 1: it's probably a perty stack. If you're like, you know what,
- 30:01Speaker 1: I think those forty nine ers are gonna spread it
- 30:02Speaker 1: out a ton now that CMC's back. They got him,
- 30:05Speaker 1: they got Debo, they got Pursled, they got Kittle, they
- 30:07Speaker 1: got all this. I think it's gonna be different, and
- 30:09Speaker 1: I'm gonna go away from that game. Then you'd be
- 30:11Speaker 1: comfortable with that in your single entry and move to
- 30:13Speaker 1: the next best spot and start there. But that's why
- 30:16Speaker 1: sometimes when I do the show with Mayo on Fridays
- 30:18Speaker 1: and we've switched the format up, and I think it's
- 30:20Speaker 1: better now. But just to use this example of anybody
- 30:22Speaker 1: who watches both, I used to give him a lot
- 30:24Speaker 1: of shit in the other format because he'll we'll get
- 30:27Speaker 1: a starting point and then it's just like free roll
- 30:30Speaker 1: or free you know, free for all. I should say.
- 30:31Speaker 1: I'm like, let's just go everywhere. Why we have to
- 30:34Speaker 1: tell a story, especially if you only have one lineup?
- 30:36Speaker 1: I'm here now, I'm thinking about here. I definitely don't
- 30:40Speaker 1: want to leave that out though, because it's in the
- 30:41Speaker 1: back of my mind, and that's what sort of tells
- 30:43Speaker 1: your build story and why I say things like when
- 30:46Speaker 1: you land on New England, well you're not high on Swift,
- 30:49Speaker 1: you don't care about the bear Z clearly, why wouldn't
- 30:52Speaker 1: you just go to the New England spot. Oh you
- 30:54Speaker 1: got a little bit more money. Oh you happen to
- 30:56Speaker 1: land on Buffalo, Well you decided you didn't want Theodona
- 30:59Speaker 1: Mitchell or the Josh Down's playing. You're not playing Taylor,
- 31:02Speaker 1: why not just play? This goes up against all those
- 31:04Speaker 1: guys naturally and you don't know that it's gonna get
- 31:07Speaker 1: you nineteen fantasy points in defense. It's just the result
- 31:10Speaker 1: of you landed there because you cared way more about
- 31:13Speaker 1: what's in your single entry outside of the Indianapolis Colt stuff.
- 31:17Speaker 1: So why not be okay with landing there or using
- 31:19Speaker 1: that as a twov two to make something bump up
- 31:21Speaker 1: in your lineup? Who cares, it's you don't know what's
- 31:24Speaker 1: gonna work out or not, but it makes sense. That's
- 31:26Speaker 1: the key I would add there. So lastly, just quick
- 31:29Speaker 1: nads and then we'll go to the dirty sheic here
- 31:31Speaker 1: the you know, Pickens Taylor. So Chief keeps bringing this
- 31:36Speaker 1: stuff up, and it's good, good stuff to bring up.
- 31:37Speaker 1: But we got his lineup. I'm gonna check out later on.
- 31:39Speaker 1: But just to say, remember last week, not this past week,
- 31:42Speaker 1: the week before. Everyone's oh the Guseki got there late.
- 31:46Speaker 1: This touchdown happened at the end. Sometimes all this stuff hits.
- 31:49Speaker 1: I hope some people weren't watching it. I guess you
- 31:52Speaker 1: know we didn't hit on that. Quickly, just shut out
- 31:54Speaker 1: dark KAIDI DRII I'll go there in a second. But
- 31:57Speaker 1: King kaid wide open touchdown overthrown Hopkins wide open touchdown.
- 32:03Speaker 1: Who else there was other guys it's yesterday, you know,
- 32:05Speaker 1: talked about the variants Adams.
- 32:07Speaker 2: Adams dropped a touchdown in the end zone.
- 32:09Speaker 1: Right, I could slightly and I'm only protecting myself because
- 32:12Speaker 1: I really needed that, But there was a slight deflection,
- 32:15Speaker 1: but you're right, it was a one he definitely could
- 32:17Speaker 1: have had. There was somebody else who had to walk
- 32:19Speaker 1: in and turned too quickly with it. I forget what
- 32:22Speaker 1: team that was on. And then who else? Hopkins the
- 32:26Speaker 1: other guy? There was somebody? Oh, Jonathan Taylor was the
- 32:29Speaker 1: best running back on the slate from twenty to twenty
- 32:31Speaker 1: and once he got inside the twenty yard line, he
- 32:33Speaker 1: couldn't do a damn thing and couldn't get there. So, yeah,
- 32:36Speaker 1: lots of variants the opposite way this week around. But
- 32:39Speaker 1: that would have changed the slate up quite a bit
- 32:40Speaker 1: because a lot of these were the most popular owned plays.
- 32:43Speaker 1: That would have mattered a lot more than the Valdez
- 32:46Speaker 1: scantling just breaking the slate. Who didn't even like I
- 32:48Speaker 1: say no, the first Valdez Scantling lineup is a Derek
- 32:52Speaker 1: Carr lineup, and I guess going back to it, this
- 32:56Speaker 1: is a good topic, Nades, I'll flip it to you.
- 32:57Speaker 1: But like, I don't think it's a bad lineup and
- 33:00Speaker 1: not results on it obviously made fifteen. No one's gonna
- 33:02Speaker 1: say that, but just to say so, Car Kamara Valdez Scantling,
- 33:06Speaker 1: that makes sense, you know, fits into an overstack. Quentin Johnston, Fine,
- 33:09Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with this lineup. I would say it's
- 33:12Speaker 1: probably fine. I think the next one was in twelve,
- 33:15Speaker 1: Car Valdez Scantling, you know, Bijon Rashad White, Like, these
- 33:20Speaker 1: are the types of lineups I'm saying, though, this guy
- 33:23Speaker 1: is good for him, but you're wanting one, two, three,
- 33:26Speaker 1: four five, basically six diamond and the roughs to happen
- 33:28Speaker 1: and random things to go your way. Yes, that's kind
- 33:30Speaker 1: of what you need to win a million maker, but
- 33:32Speaker 1: just going back up here fifteen, fifteen, fifteen, fifteen, nineteen nine,
- 33:37Speaker 1: twelve eight three, you just don't need to do that.
- 33:40Speaker 1: And it's one of the best players in the world
- 33:42Speaker 1: at DFS. So it was downs. Yeah, it was downs.
- 33:45Speaker 1: Thank you, Marlin, you're the man that That's what it was.
- 33:47Speaker 1: It was pissing me off because I knew some Placa
- 33:50Speaker 1: stacks and that one and the Mitchell stuff and just everything.
- 33:53Speaker 1: I know everyone got mad too because Diamie Brown was
- 33:56Speaker 1: another one. Everyone thought it was Noah Brown. Though for
- 33:59Speaker 1: the Commanders and Brown, it was like, oh good news,
- 34:01Speaker 1: it wasn't the Brown you were wanting it to be.
- 34:03Speaker 1: But anything else needs on that before we move on,
- 34:07Speaker 1: d Drive. I was going to talk about quick, but
- 34:08Speaker 1: anything else.
- 34:08Speaker 2: You want to add, yeah, Dji right everyone last week
- 34:11Speaker 2: Kiseki and that getting there late, right, I mean, it's
- 34:14Speaker 2: all part of the game, right. Well, guess who Guess
- 34:16Speaker 2: who won a lot of money for a lot of
- 34:19Speaker 2: people yesterday is Kelvin Ridley, who caught a touchdown in
- 34:22Speaker 2: literally the closing time when the game was over, right
- 34:24Speaker 2: literally had I mean they had no chance to win
- 34:28Speaker 2: the game. And obviously you're going to keep passing, right,
- 34:30Speaker 2: You're not going to concede and give up in that.
- 34:32Speaker 2: But it goes both ways, right, so just remember it's
- 34:35Speaker 2: not over till it's over, right, same thing, right, people
- 34:38Speaker 2: out myself was tilting right l Gear kind of getting three.
- 34:42Speaker 2: I mean, you have the best running back literally in
- 34:44Speaker 2: football in the last like four weeks, guys. Incredible, absolutely
- 34:48Speaker 2: incredible inside the red zone and you're running Lger out
- 34:51Speaker 2: there to run up the middle three times in a row, right,
- 34:53Speaker 2: and then Jon obviously comes in and gets the touchdown.
- 34:55Speaker 2: I was tilting it. I was many people were tilting it.
- 34:58Speaker 2: It wasn't results oriented. It was just more of a
- 35:00Speaker 2: process thing for the coach. But in hindsight, I mean,
- 35:03Speaker 2: if you didn't weren't high on Bijon, you probably shouldn't
- 35:07Speaker 2: have been tilting that. I mean, even though it was
- 35:09Speaker 2: kind of kind of ridiculous, because that's I mean, if
- 35:12Speaker 2: you don't have Bijon, you weren't winning any money yesterday, right,
- 35:15Speaker 2: So on a low scoring slate, when a guy gets thirty,
- 35:19Speaker 2: you need him, right. So in hindsight, a lot of
- 35:22Speaker 2: people probably tilted Bijon that actually probably ended up hurting
- 35:25Speaker 2: hurting that, or tilted Algier that probably ended up actually
- 35:28Speaker 2: hurting them, and they probably wish Elgier probably would have scored,
- 35:31Speaker 2: right because Bijon wants have been quite as needed right
- 35:35Speaker 2: without that touchdown. So it's just little things like that
- 35:38Speaker 2: that you just don't know right at the time.
- 35:40Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it's the perfect spot because that is
- 35:43Speaker 1: the exact what thing I was saying earlier about the
- 35:45Speaker 1: NBS thing. You should almost be tilting this guy getting
- 35:48Speaker 1: a touchdown more than the NBS thing happening. This one
- 35:52Speaker 1: hurts you a lot, Like this is there's remember what
- 35:54Speaker 1: I just showed you. All the lineups have bijon. I
- 35:56Speaker 1: mean you need him that that's just how it goes.
- 35:58Speaker 1: And he's owned enough. He's in tons of lineups, he's
- 36:00Speaker 1: in tons of combinations. If you're underweight on that, that
- 36:03Speaker 1: should bother you a lot more than a point four
- 36:05Speaker 1: percent guy breaking the breaking the slate. It's like if
- 36:08Speaker 1: he shows up in any of those lineups again, one
- 36:11Speaker 1: in the top ten and it's a game overstack where
- 36:13Speaker 1: you still need look one percent, four percent, one percent
- 36:16Speaker 1: seven per So, I mean it's fine, it's just I'm
- 36:18Speaker 1: saying it's you. You need a lot to go your
- 36:20Speaker 1: way and the balanced approach were ended up working yesterday,
- 36:22Speaker 1: but d DRAI got a little bit hosed at the
- 36:24Speaker 1: end because even after the Ridley touchdown, he was still
- 36:27Speaker 1: sitting in second for one hundred K. And we bring
- 36:30Speaker 1: him up because if you're if you're new to the show,
- 36:31Speaker 1: if you're a member and you haven't watched yet, or
- 36:33Speaker 1: this joined this year, whatever it might be, if you
- 36:36Speaker 1: go under videos on this exact YouTube channel, you're on
- 36:39Speaker 1: it now on a live show. But if you go
- 36:41Speaker 1: under videos, you can see the interview we did with
- 36:44Speaker 1: DDRE last year. Just watched the first twenty minutes of it.
- 36:46Speaker 1: He won the Millie Maker and it was awesome. And
- 36:48Speaker 1: this is another close call, but the Philly D got
- 36:51Speaker 1: him twice. Here two lineups said, the Philly D that
- 36:54Speaker 1: got there laid against the the Trey Lance before Trey Lance,
- 36:57Speaker 1: et cetera coming in. And that's that's part of the game.
- 36:59Speaker 1: That's what you can fade down the stretch. I know
- 37:01Speaker 1: there was a ton of people on the opposite side
- 37:03Speaker 1: of that that had hurts, had Aj Brown or Devonte
- 37:08Speaker 1: Smith or God or whatever it might be, that got
- 37:11Speaker 1: no playing time because the game's over and they're just
- 37:13Speaker 1: gonna sit those guys. Of course, so little things like
- 37:15Speaker 1: that go both ways, but I thought I would bring
- 37:17Speaker 1: that up. Let's move on. Let's go to our guy,
- 37:20Speaker 1: the Dirty Sheet. Congrats again to him. Huge day. He
- 37:23Speaker 1: got second in the one hundred and fifty dollars three
- 37:27Speaker 1: max the Power Sweep. His step brother got first in that,
- 37:31Speaker 1: and then he got first in this and he had
- 37:34Speaker 1: to sweat a lot down the stretch too, right, if
- 37:36Speaker 1: you had guys behind him, Like what was he going
- 37:39Speaker 1: up against? I think I think Murray ended up sitting
- 37:42Speaker 1: right McBride all those guys. Connor barely played the fourth
- 37:45Speaker 1: quarter just because that score in that game, so he
- 37:48Speaker 1: was anti sweating as well up top. But this was
- 37:50Speaker 1: his lineup Nates. He had Purdy, the Brock Pearity stack
- 37:56Speaker 1: with Brock Purdy and Rickey Pearsl as well as George
- 37:58Speaker 1: Kittle double tight end, no Eckler but played zach Ertz
- 38:02Speaker 1: and no ownership got a few points in there, had
- 38:05Speaker 1: the secondary stack of Hunt and Courtland Sutton. Then he
- 38:10Speaker 1: had the Ridley versus the Chargers D. He wanted me
- 38:13Speaker 1: to rip that, I think a little bit, but I
- 38:15Speaker 1: don't know. It's a you know, a fifty seven hundred
- 38:17Speaker 1: dollars receiver you can kind of get there with, I guess,
- 38:19Speaker 1: but you know, other than that, I'll let you take
- 38:21Speaker 1: it over from there. Man, what do you see with
- 38:22Speaker 1: this one?
- 38:23Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll bring up the Chargers D and Ridley thing.
- 38:28Speaker 2: I mean number one, right, you know you're gonna be
- 38:31Speaker 2: unique when you're playing a guy like that, But not
- 38:33Speaker 2: only that, right, what are you playing the defense for.
- 38:35Speaker 2: You're playing a defense to not shut out the other team, right,
- 38:38Speaker 2: because that's just highly unlikely. You're playing them to score
- 38:41Speaker 2: like a pick six, right, or a fumble to the
- 38:43Speaker 2: house or something in turn, which kind of helps a
- 38:46Speaker 2: guy like Calvin Ridley, who's the number one pass catcher
- 38:49Speaker 2: on the other side coming back. So, I mean, it's
- 38:51Speaker 2: not as negatively correlated as people think, right. Are you
- 38:54Speaker 2: probably going in there and doing it a lot with
- 38:56Speaker 2: the highest priced defense, right, playing kind of higher priced receiver.
- 39:01Speaker 2: Probably not a bunch, But realistically, I mean, I don't
- 39:03Speaker 2: think that's the craziest play. It's not like you're going
- 39:06Speaker 2: in and playing like a Saquon Barkley right against the
- 39:09Speaker 2: defense where if he's he's smashing, right, it's likely that
- 39:14Speaker 2: there's not very many chances for a pick six because
- 39:18Speaker 2: if he's smashing, they're not really throwing the ball, right,
- 39:20Speaker 2: So it's a little bit different. That's that's one thing there.
- 39:23Speaker 2: The Kareem Hunt play with the Courtland Sutton kind of ministack, right,
- 39:27Speaker 2: who was else? I mean people were playing Kelsey, people
- 39:29Speaker 2: are playing that, so I mean you're a little bit
- 39:31Speaker 2: cheaper than Kelsey going to a guy like Sutton who
- 39:34Speaker 2: you could have played there, and then Kareem Hunt is
- 39:37Speaker 2: also leveraged in that running backs area where people are
- 39:41Speaker 2: playing Aaron Jones. Right, for one hundred dollars cheaper, you
- 39:43Speaker 2: jump to a Kareem Hunt who's leveraging Kelsey. He's leveraging
- 39:47Speaker 2: Aaron Jones, and then in turn you're playing the secondary
- 39:50Speaker 2: stack Hunt gets going on the ground. That's kind of
- 39:53Speaker 2: a gross game, right. It's also leverage off of the
- 39:55Speaker 2: hashtag never Mahomes, who people were saying was going to
- 39:58Speaker 2: break the slate yesterday for the first time ever. I
- 40:00Speaker 2: know Tampbell was pretty strong about that on our show
- 40:04Speaker 2: right here. I mean, I think he's oh for eighty
- 40:05Speaker 2: seven now in Milli Maker winners with Patrick Mahomes. So
- 40:09Speaker 2: you just a ton of leverage play with Kareem Hunt
- 40:11Speaker 2: there at the position. So overall, like that talk about
- 40:15Speaker 2: the Brock Purty Kittle stack with Ricky Pearcell, Right, Ricky
- 40:19Speaker 2: Pearsall was a good play. He was heavily involved last
- 40:22Speaker 2: week in that offense. He was also a value play
- 40:26Speaker 2: on the slate when they're still short handed, right, Ricky Pearsoll,
- 40:29Speaker 2: It's him and Juwan Jennings right are they don't have
- 40:32Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk right, and they love three wide receivers they
- 40:35Speaker 2: have all season long, right, So playing him in kind
- 40:39Speaker 2: of that value tier where people are trying to make McMillan,
- 40:41Speaker 2: Shephard things like that work right, Going to like that
- 40:45Speaker 2: when he's tied to your stack, I think makes a
- 40:48Speaker 2: lot of sense. So overall, really good build and there's
- 40:51Speaker 2: a lot of leverage built in that probably most people
- 40:53Speaker 2: don't look at, like like the Kareem Hunt play right,
- 40:55Speaker 2: that leverages a ton of stuff in that range. And
- 40:58Speaker 2: it's still not crazy. I mean, Kareem, it's been a
- 41:00Speaker 2: beast for this Kansas City offense.
- 41:02Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you said, when you're gonna go to
- 41:04Speaker 1: this stack and you're not playing that, it was the
- 41:06Speaker 1: prime example what you've talked about, and a bunch of
- 41:08Speaker 1: people got to this but not playing CMC. So why
- 41:10Speaker 1: not go the purty stack and then put someone like
- 41:12Speaker 1: bijon opposite of Kamara. You talk about not playing the
- 41:17Speaker 1: Mahome stacks, I mean play bow Nicks on the other
- 41:19Speaker 1: side did just as good. So I mean literally it's
- 41:22Speaker 1: never gonna happen. It doesn't happen. Just stop doing it.
- 41:24Speaker 1: Stop trying it. It doesn't work. Kareem Hunt would have
- 41:28Speaker 1: been leverage to also the DeAndre Hopkins play that everybody
- 41:31Speaker 1: was on the secondary stack with that is gonna be
- 41:35Speaker 1: unique either way. So that's just a nice way, and
- 41:37Speaker 1: I think you've got that when we get to your
- 41:38Speaker 1: line of review later. Weren't the forty nine ers on
- 41:41Speaker 1: a buy too? Wasn't that the other thing they waited
- 41:43Speaker 1: till off.
- 41:43Speaker 2: The yeah, coming off a bye? Yeah, but the Sutton
- 41:46Speaker 2: is a direct leverage right off of Hopkins. So you're
- 41:49Speaker 2: not only leveraging Hopkins with Kareem Hunt, you're also going
- 41:52Speaker 2: to the other side of that game correlating Kareem Hunt
- 41:55Speaker 2: who Sutton is right there right fifty within a couple
- 41:59Speaker 2: hundred bucks of the highest So one play on the
- 42:02Speaker 2: entire slate.
- 42:03Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. I know they talk about these
- 42:05Speaker 1: rookie receivers off of a bye sometimes you'll get them
- 42:08Speaker 1: more involved, and he hadn't been involved even before that,
- 42:10Speaker 1: So that was a good point. If you're not playing
- 42:12Speaker 1: Eckler's or Noah Brown or something like that. Two tight
- 42:15Speaker 1: ends set this way made sense because your second tight
- 42:18Speaker 1: end literally went in with Purdy just fine. So I
- 42:20Speaker 1: mean this is a great lineup. I think this one
- 42:23Speaker 1: is a key factor as well. The thing is you
- 42:25Speaker 1: don't want to play it against your quarterback, and it's
- 42:29Speaker 1: even then you can. We've seen it work with like
- 42:31Speaker 1: the Jamis Winston stuff back in the day and all
- 42:33Speaker 1: that in Shippdemeiser. We have it. So you can literally
- 42:36Speaker 1: just turn it off, allow it versus the defense and
- 42:38Speaker 1: play it against the flex if you want, a lot
- 42:40Speaker 1: of people will turn that off, but you can turn
- 42:42Speaker 1: it on. The key to remember is this it's not showdown.
- 42:46Speaker 1: There's ten games here. The chance of being duped is
- 42:49Speaker 1: so unlikely. It's unless you're playing literally the chalkiest of
- 42:51Speaker 1: chalk lineups with the exact fifty K max with all
- 42:55Speaker 1: that like two v twos, things like that common three
- 42:57Speaker 1: v threes, et cetera. Sure, but you're not doing it
- 43:00Speaker 1: to not be duped. Like it doesn't matter. That's why
- 43:02Speaker 1: there's the fact there's two factors to it. One you
- 43:05Speaker 1: don't need to do this to be unique. But two
- 43:08Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter because it's like you said, against
- 43:11Speaker 1: just a receiver like this, they could get two pick
- 43:13Speaker 1: six'es and that just means they're down fourteen to nothing
- 43:16Speaker 1: and then really gets more opportunity that way, Or could
- 43:19Speaker 1: do you set it up that way on purpose? No,
- 43:21Speaker 1: you don't have to. There's nineteen other defenses you can
- 43:25Speaker 1: play on the slate. Especially that's literally true when this
- 43:28Speaker 1: is the most expensive. There was nineteen cheaper defenses and
- 43:31Speaker 1: nineteen other defenses on this slate that he could have played.
- 43:34Speaker 1: It didn't really matter either way. But it's just another
- 43:37Speaker 1: note like why not just play for me? Like in
- 43:39Speaker 1: my stuff, I'm probably just gonna have Minnesota there, or
- 43:42Speaker 1: I'm gonna have something else. I don't know. My point
- 43:44Speaker 1: would just be there was a ton of different ways
- 43:46Speaker 1: that you could have seen it happen. He could have
- 43:48Speaker 1: had a done Mitchell at thirty eight hundred here, he
- 43:53Speaker 1: could have moved the fifty eight hundred up to tight
- 43:55Speaker 1: end instead of zach Ertz played fifty eight hundred dollars.
- 43:58Speaker 1: Eckler then had the thirty six hundred dollars Chiefs to
- 44:03Speaker 1: go with the Kareem Hunt play, and boom, you've got
- 44:05Speaker 1: a correlated lineup that still wins and has all the pieces.
- 44:08Speaker 1: I'm just strip balling it, but I just see that
- 44:10Speaker 1: stuff with a.
- 44:11Speaker 2: Lot of pivot off of Hunter Henry right one hundred
- 44:15Speaker 2: dollars cheaper than Hunter Henry Right, who I know burned
- 44:18Speaker 2: burned a lot of lineups yesterday right with his what
- 44:20Speaker 2: goosegg or whatever? He scored right two point four points.
- 44:25Speaker 2: So that's another thing too. There's a lot of leverage
- 44:27Speaker 2: built in right there. I like lot.
- 44:31Speaker 1: All right, let see if you like this a lot,
- 44:32Speaker 1: it's your lineup. So let's let's talk to people through
- 44:34Speaker 1: your build here, because it's a lot of the people
- 44:36Speaker 1: that did have builds like new ones. Those guys, I'll
- 44:38Speaker 1: get as many as I can, but they had they
- 44:39Speaker 1: have purty builds. So talk to me about your your
- 44:42Speaker 1: Joe Flacco building. Again, it's not about winners and what one,
- 44:45Speaker 1: it's what why did you build it this way? How
- 44:47Speaker 1: were you thinking about your build as you went through?
- 44:49Speaker 1: And I think that's what helps the people most too.
- 44:51Speaker 1: Tight end build too. By the way, shout out to
- 44:53Speaker 1: the chat earlier. Taysom Hill certainly hurt some feelings myself, some.
- 44:56Speaker 2: Hill and downs, right, it could have been a really
- 44:59Speaker 2: fun day, right, Donalds dropped the walk in touchdowns. Taysom
- 45:02Speaker 2: Hill got called back, but hey, that's the game we play.
- 45:05Speaker 2: I just liked this build a lot I was in
- 45:07Speaker 2: on Buffalo Indie game A lot I had in my
- 45:10Speaker 2: five teams. I three of my five teams came from
- 45:13Speaker 2: this game, right, kind of how I break my portfolio down.
- 45:16Speaker 2: And usually if I'm using a couple of quarterbacks, right,
- 45:18Speaker 2: I usually grab them from the same team, right. So
- 45:21Speaker 2: I had two Josh Allen builds, one Flacco build, and
- 45:23Speaker 2: then the other two lineups were obviously correlated together as well.
- 45:27Speaker 2: So I really liked that. I thought it was a
- 45:30Speaker 2: little different way to play the Donni Mitchell, Josh Dollen stuff.
- 45:33Speaker 2: As you can see right, if people were playing them,
- 45:35Speaker 2: it was high. It was more more so being played
- 45:38Speaker 2: as secondary stacks or with like a Josh Allen right,
- 45:41Speaker 2: because you needed the salary to get up to Josh
- 45:44Speaker 2: Allen there. Obviously I have those teams, but going to
- 45:46Speaker 2: the other side of that, with a guy like Flacco
- 45:49Speaker 2: who is at home, you knows he's going to chuck
- 45:51Speaker 2: the ball A toon obviously had a couple of couple
- 45:54Speaker 2: of mistakes there. But I loved the McCaffrey play. I
- 45:58Speaker 2: had a bunch of McCaffrey and the spots. I didn't
- 46:00Speaker 2: have McCaffrey Alvis say, I went rock Purty there, so
- 46:03Speaker 2: just kind of over all that. The reason I played
- 46:05Speaker 2: the two tight end build this way is I'd look
- 46:09Speaker 2: at Taysom Hill is more like a leverage off of
- 46:11Speaker 2: Kamara right and being used as a Swiss Army knife
- 46:14Speaker 2: as a running back basically. So that's kind of why
- 46:17Speaker 2: I played Taysom Hill in the flex there. But also, hey,
- 46:20Speaker 2: I correlated him. Bijon's getting it done on the ground,
- 46:22Speaker 2: just gonna smash right. I don't want the pass catchers.
- 46:25Speaker 2: I want a guy that's gonna be able to make plays.
- 46:27Speaker 2: And also I don't have the salary to get up
- 46:29Speaker 2: to a guy like Kamara, so Bijon's leveraging the Kamara ownership.
- 46:33Speaker 2: I went to a secondary stack and use that in
- 46:36Speaker 2: Taysom Hill, So I like that, And then I really
- 46:39Speaker 2: like the secondary stack with McCaffrey and Alton. I mean,
- 46:41Speaker 2: you said it. Tampa Bay's offense has ran literally through
- 46:44Speaker 2: two guys, Rashad White and Kate Atton. Since all these
- 46:47Speaker 2: guys got hurt, you know it's gonna be a competitive game.
- 46:50Speaker 2: Tampa Bay's at home and can just get all the
- 46:52Speaker 2: checkdowns and all those catches obviously didn't work out there.
- 46:56Speaker 2: And McCaffrey obviously, I mean he came back and was
- 47:00Speaker 2: heavily involved in that offense and just obviously didn't didn't
- 47:03Speaker 2: make some plays. I mean he got all the snaps,
- 47:05Speaker 2: got all the work, hit over one hundred all purpose yards,
- 47:08Speaker 2: things like that. And then the Egos defense, I wasn't.
- 47:12Speaker 2: It was just kind of a one off spot, right.
- 47:14Speaker 2: I didn't want to play the chalk your defenses up there.
- 47:17Speaker 2: I know it's Cooper Rush, right. The Egos defense has
- 47:20Speaker 2: been really good the last couple of weeks, so kind
- 47:23Speaker 2: of just fit that fit the team. But obviously, uh
- 47:26Speaker 2: could have been, could have been a lot better. But
- 47:27Speaker 2: that's kind of how I thought about leverage, leverage built
- 47:30Speaker 2: in right with the guys like Taysom Hill, leverage off
- 47:32Speaker 2: Kamara if I'm not playing Kamara, going to bijon right,
- 47:34Speaker 2: correlating it together there. So overall I thought it was
- 47:38Speaker 2: a pretty good build and could have been could have
- 47:41Speaker 2: been really fun.
- 47:41Speaker 1: But yeah, it makes perfect sense of how you explained it.
- 47:44Speaker 1: Like you said, also too, if you're playing for if
- 47:46Speaker 1: McCaffrey does this and you're not on hurdy stacks and
- 47:48Speaker 1: so on and so forth. The other thing I was
- 47:50Speaker 1: saying because people might see it and see what we
- 47:51Speaker 1: always talk about, Like, I like, if you're going to
- 47:54Speaker 1: play these two highly owned wide receivers, let's melt into
- 47:57Speaker 1: that with three percent on Joe Flackle. Let's first make
- 48:00Speaker 1: it make sense and really eat into that ownership. Also,
- 48:03Speaker 1: then people say, okay, but you didn't have a lot
- 48:05Speaker 1: of leverage built into the lineup because you only really
- 48:07Speaker 1: had Flacco low owned and Eagles low owned. But what
- 48:12Speaker 1: I would say, give is how many people are using
- 48:14Speaker 1: three wide receiver spots on this how many people are
- 48:17Speaker 1: paying up for two running backs and setting it up
- 48:20Speaker 1: that way versus having one of those Eckler's or you
- 48:24Speaker 1: know again, guys that did even better in some cases,
- 48:26Speaker 1: but guys like James Connor and some of that mid
- 48:28Speaker 1: range options that way. So I think the build is fine.
- 48:31Speaker 1: It just didn't fully work out. You talked about how
- 48:33Speaker 1: Downs and Taysom could have got there. The other thing
- 48:35Speaker 1: I'll say, though, is you on a slate like yesterday,
- 48:38Speaker 1: we didn't know what the final scores needed were going
- 48:41Speaker 1: to be. That would be the cheat code. But I
- 48:42Speaker 1: will say, yeah, that's a good one, Paul. We'll get
- 48:45Speaker 1: there in a second. But the other thing I was
- 48:47Speaker 1: gonna say is just you know, when you're building in
- 48:49Speaker 1: for building for upside, and that's like what you're doing.
- 48:51Speaker 1: You're trying to find as many spots as you can.
- 48:54Speaker 1: McCaffrey can break a slate, Bijon did break a slate,
- 48:57Speaker 1: and certainly can we know that. Really the funny thing
- 48:59Speaker 1: earlier too, was with that Algier stuff they Scott Hansen pronounced,
- 49:03Speaker 1: you know, fourth times the charm for Atlanta. Yeah, technically,
- 49:06Speaker 1: but it was first time the charm for the guy
- 49:07Speaker 1: they actually should have jammed it with and might only
- 49:09Speaker 1: taken one dry and not had to get to that out.
- 49:12Speaker 1: The other thing is Auton makes sense with him and
- 49:15Speaker 1: has been involved and can get you twenty plus points
- 49:17Speaker 1: Taysom Hill and you played him with Mitchell. But when
- 49:20Speaker 1: you're looking at that Hunter Henry thirty one hundreds, they're like,
- 49:23Speaker 1: how many of those guys are getting wildcat snaps and
- 49:26Speaker 1: could throw a touchdown, let alone have all those injuries
- 49:29Speaker 1: associated with their side. So ad ownership fine, but at
- 49:32Speaker 1: least you found a way to use them that made sense.
- 49:34Speaker 1: And then Eagles d who were a leverage piece. Just
- 49:37Speaker 1: to note it though, how come nobody wanted these guys.
- 49:40Speaker 1: We know what Cooper Rush is, we knew what he
- 49:42Speaker 1: was capable of not doing doing however you want to
- 49:45Speaker 1: put it, And that was a big factor. So I
- 49:47Speaker 1: mean not wanting the Eagles there, who people have liked
- 49:49Speaker 1: all season at a perfect price point to a little
- 49:52Speaker 1: bit more but a lot less than the big dogs.
- 49:55Speaker 1: So I thought that was good. Paul had a good
- 49:57Speaker 1: one there, said, apparently there is son in Dallas that
- 49:59Speaker 1: can help your defense. Don't know if the sun mattered
- 50:01Speaker 1: for Cooper Rush, Trey Lance and co and all those guys,
- 50:04Speaker 1: but it definitely is a factor. It's weird that they
- 50:06Speaker 1: have that, and it's always seems to be something you're
- 50:08Speaker 1: watching those games later in the day. Over all those aids,
- 50:11Speaker 1: I thought a pretty good bill. Just just wanted to
- 50:13Speaker 1: bring that up. So let's go to Whore's the other
- 50:17Speaker 1: one I wanted to talk about. A lot of them
- 50:20Speaker 1: are similar. I'm not going to just breeze through him
- 50:21Speaker 1: for no reason. But Wombat had here a purty Pearcel
- 50:25Speaker 1: kittle Aughton best way to use the double tight end.
- 50:28Speaker 1: I talked about it. You know two of the three
- 50:30Speaker 1: things that came true, I mean the first Look show
- 50:33Speaker 1: and shompt Guy Degener seventy five another good week for him.
- 50:35Speaker 1: Could have been a lot better too. But just you know,
- 50:37Speaker 1: we talked a lot about this Kittle and Aughton double stack.
- 50:40Speaker 1: I know he wasn't as high on it the start
- 50:42Speaker 1: of the week, but he came around to it just
- 50:43Speaker 1: because the way the value that nothing popped up for value,
- 50:45Speaker 1: so it made perfect sense. We said New England would win.
- 50:49Speaker 1: Was the plus six and a half we circled on
- 50:51Speaker 1: the notes list that came true. Not only did the
- 50:53Speaker 1: plus six and a half come through, but they won.
- 50:55Speaker 1: And then yesterday I talked a lot about the Pittsburgh
- 50:59Speaker 1: off a bye, you know, just the way Mike Tomlin's
- 51:01Speaker 1: been able to get that job done and against rookie quarterbacks,
- 51:04Speaker 1: and that came through. But solid build used the Denver,
- 51:06Speaker 1: Kansas city flip here, so that was fine. I think
- 51:09Speaker 1: this is a great build, not because the results, just
- 51:12Speaker 1: in general. Chiefs who was in the chat here earlier
- 51:16Speaker 1: had a bunch of stuff mixed in. Let's do this
- 51:18Speaker 1: one real quick needs because it was pretty pearsl The
- 51:23Speaker 1: Kittle double tight end New England went with you know, instance,
- 51:27Speaker 1: so he did have Kamara Pickens, Noah Brown, So I guess,
- 51:31Speaker 1: you know, nothing wrong with this line up at all.
- 51:32Speaker 1: He leveraged a bunch of different spots kind of just
- 51:35Speaker 1: didn't work out. But do you have any thoughts on
- 51:36Speaker 1: this one?
- 51:37Speaker 2: No, Overall, I think it's a pretty solid build. Obviously,
- 51:40Speaker 2: Hunter Henry. He's been heavily involved in that offense there,
- 51:42Speaker 2: and it's a good play. I mean, I think if
- 51:45Speaker 2: I'm playing double ten end when I'm going to a
- 51:47Speaker 2: guy like Kittle, I personally I liked if I was
- 51:50Speaker 2: playing double tight end yesterday to use him in like
- 51:52Speaker 2: a correlated stack, like an atten right in the Kittle,
- 51:55Speaker 2: or like a Taysom Hill who's like a Swiss army
- 51:58Speaker 2: knife versus a guy that strictly is kind of reliant
- 52:00Speaker 2: on touchdown passes right there in Henry. So, I mean,
- 52:04Speaker 2: that's probably the only other thing there that that I
- 52:07Speaker 2: got a little take on. But outside of that, I mean,
- 52:09Speaker 2: I think it's a pretty pretty good bill. The Pickens
- 52:12Speaker 2: Noah Brown kind of stacked there. I don't mind that.
- 52:15Speaker 2: I like the Jonathan Taylor play in the lineups where
- 52:18Speaker 2: I wasn't in on the Flacco stuff. I was playing
- 52:21Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor. I'm usually on the opposite side of my
- 52:24Speaker 2: Josh Allen stuff. I just knew people weren't getting to him,
- 52:26Speaker 2: and like you said, right, I mean he could have.
- 52:28Speaker 2: Absolutely he could have been a Jon Robinson yesterday. He
- 52:30Speaker 2: could he should have had two touchdowns, right, So overall
- 52:33Speaker 2: just didn't get there. But I like to build in general.
- 52:37Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly, I know he's watching these shows every week.
- 52:39Speaker 1: We've already hit him up in the chat a few times,
- 52:40Speaker 1: and he's learning lots. But just I would say, you know,
- 52:42Speaker 1: cutting into the party ownership with Pearcell for example, doing
- 52:46Speaker 1: the two tight ends set. It's fine that he landed
- 52:48Speaker 1: on Henry. I don't see people say, Okay, it could
- 52:50Speaker 1: have been Bijon with Taysom and would have got a
- 52:52Speaker 1: bunch more point sure, But I think two things. One,
- 52:55Speaker 1: you're not playing CMC so one hundred dollars more, and
- 52:57Speaker 1: you're gett Kamara, who, by the way, you knew his
- 52:59Speaker 1: ownership was coming down from the original twenty eight or
- 53:01Speaker 1: twenty five plus that people were talking about.
- 53:03Speaker 2: Wasn't a huge break, but dropped at a touchdown too.
- 53:06Speaker 2: By the way, that as well the.
- 53:08Speaker 1: Other guy earlier. I think somebody brought it up here
- 53:11Speaker 1: as well, brother Numcy. So you know you're not playing
- 53:13Speaker 1: the Mitchell down stuff, why not play Taylor? That could
- 53:16Speaker 1: have been a bigger day. I like the secondary stack
- 53:18Speaker 1: here because you're not playing Eckler or you're not playing
- 53:22Speaker 1: Ertz or anything on the Washington side. But if you
- 53:24Speaker 1: want a piece of that game, the way to get
- 53:25Speaker 1: it was something like this. So I'm fine with that,
- 53:28Speaker 1: using the two tight end but in the stack, and
- 53:30Speaker 1: then just going to Henry as the one off with
- 53:32Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I think you know what he got here.
- 53:35Speaker 1: You know two three, four four good leverage pieces in
- 53:38Speaker 1: there that obviously you could have finaggled it a little
- 53:40Speaker 1: bit different, like you could have got away with a
- 53:42Speaker 1: chalkier defense here, or dropping down and maybe pumping up
- 53:46Speaker 1: one more position. I would have been fine with that.
- 53:49Speaker 1: But I think overall, solid build, right, you can always
- 53:52Speaker 1: look back in hindsight. I think that was a good one.
- 53:55Speaker 1: Looked at Wombat. Who else do we got here? New
- 53:59Speaker 1: and New's won Newan's had Purty Jennings. I don't know
- 54:06Speaker 1: he had two hundred dollars ticket that he won. He
- 54:08Speaker 1: got the two indie guys in but the two high
- 54:10Speaker 1: priced ones Bijon, no run back Dobbins. You know, I
- 54:15Speaker 1: get it.
- 54:16Speaker 2: You know.
- 54:16Speaker 1: It was a little bit more all over the place,
- 54:19Speaker 1: but did have the secondary of like Taylor Downs Hollands,
- 54:24Speaker 1: I would I don't love the build personally, but I
- 54:26Speaker 1: guess I'll kick it to you just some stuff that
- 54:28Speaker 1: I would like. These are two really high priced guys.
- 54:30Speaker 1: For them to seiling out is possible, for sure, but
- 54:33Speaker 1: it's I would have rather this be Mitchell with Taylor
- 54:36Speaker 1: because then even if he doesn't do as much, Taylor
- 54:38Speaker 1: could have made up for it so on and so forth,
- 54:40Speaker 1: and similar ownership, and then you just get more money
- 54:43Speaker 1: to spend elsewhere. But he did the flip with with
- 54:45Speaker 1: Hollands as opposed to him, But I think, yeah, other
- 54:48Speaker 1: ways I would have looked at doing it. Your your
- 54:49Speaker 1: thoughts on this one.
- 54:50Speaker 2: Needs Yeah, I think obviously he congrats for for winning
- 54:56Speaker 2: the ticket and that I just think when you're going
- 54:59Speaker 2: with high price like a Downs, a tailor Abijon in
- 55:02Speaker 2: a Dobbins, yeah, there's some leverage in there, but you're
- 55:06Speaker 2: just setting yourself up thin, right if perty's breaking the
- 55:08Speaker 2: slate it's likely that more than just Juwan Jennings is
- 55:12Speaker 2: getting there right realistically, I mean, how many times outside
- 55:16Speaker 2: of the one week right though obviously he did it
- 55:18Speaker 2: the one week, but literally everybody was out, Deebo was out,
- 55:21Speaker 2: Kiddo was out, everybody. It was literally Juwan Jennings was
- 55:23Speaker 2: the only standing guy back there. So that's a little
- 55:27Speaker 2: thin there. At the mac Collins, I think I would
- 55:30Speaker 2: have liked that more as like a skinny secondary stack,
- 55:32Speaker 2: and it's not results oriented. It's just you're using value
- 55:35Speaker 2: already yesterday on the slate is weak and thin. When
- 55:38Speaker 2: you're using two guys from the same team, right, the
- 55:41Speaker 2: Downs and the Tailor, you're kind of hoping that Indy's
- 55:43Speaker 2: just gonna smash How realistic is Indy gonna smash Buffalo? Right?
- 55:48Speaker 2: Probably pretty thin? And then the Dobbins, I just think
- 55:51Speaker 2: you're kind of over leveraged and you kind of just
- 55:54Speaker 2: left yourself a little thin with some of the plays
- 55:56Speaker 2: because of the way you did it, but obviously got there.
- 56:00Speaker 2: I just think the Dobbins play at that price point,
- 56:04Speaker 2: in that range, I mean, I thought it was probably
- 56:07Speaker 2: a little thin there, to be honest, and it's not
- 56:09Speaker 2: results oriented. It's just like he's got to beat out
- 56:13Speaker 2: I mean Jonathan Taylor, who's also a leverage play. So
- 56:15Speaker 2: you already have that leverage in that range, right, you
- 56:17Speaker 2: don't need to double leverage it, I think with another
- 56:19Speaker 2: spind up running back there, I think, But I mean,
- 56:24Speaker 2: I don't know. I just think it's a little thin
- 56:25Speaker 2: with a single stack with Juwan Jennings. So I probably
- 56:28Speaker 2: would have liked like a debo or a kiddo or
- 56:31Speaker 2: something like that, right to double stack that.
- 56:35Speaker 1: Yeah, what's pretty sick about it, I guess I would
- 56:36Speaker 1: say is like this is the thing. Just my takeaways
- 56:38Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean they're all right, just to say,
- 56:40Speaker 1: like the big one for me is the too expensive guys.
- 56:42Speaker 1: Like if you go back to Squid and I'm not
- 56:44Speaker 1: looking at all his lineups, but like if you go
- 56:46Speaker 1: Eckler Noah Brown that is nothing forty three and fifty
- 56:49Speaker 1: eight and doesn't even have big ownership with it at all,
- 56:53Speaker 1: you go back to this, You've got a twenty percent
- 56:55Speaker 1: owned sixty two hundred dollars dude with a nice leverage play.
- 56:58Speaker 1: It's almost like you should be using tailor against that,
- 57:01Speaker 1: or I'm better with like an Adane Mitchell there where.
- 57:04Speaker 1: It's like, now I'm looking at it as a cheap
- 57:05Speaker 1: combo pack for the cost of two under ten k
- 57:08Speaker 1: and just hope that they can put you up thirty
- 57:10Speaker 1: something points. This is expensive for those two and it's
- 57:12Speaker 1: just weird how it would end up working out. Needing
- 57:14Speaker 1: almost a perfect storm and then Jennings stacked with him
- 57:18Speaker 1: makes sense. I get what you're doing New England with
- 57:20Speaker 1: the D. Like all this stuff can make sense and
- 57:22Speaker 1: can be sold told a story on. But like I
- 57:24Speaker 1: would have just preferred putting in Mitchell here, not even
- 57:28Speaker 1: the results, just to putting in putting in Mitchell and
- 57:30Speaker 1: then seeing about like whether Jennings goes to debo again
- 57:34Speaker 1: would have done worse. I'm not explaining for the result
- 57:36Speaker 1: or a Henry up to Kittle to add to the
- 57:39Speaker 1: double stack and let Jennings are you know, be in
- 57:41Speaker 1: there and then be able to find another running back
- 57:44Speaker 1: like an Eckler or something if you need the savings,
- 57:46Speaker 1: and then who can you know the D got you
- 57:48Speaker 1: the points. I'm just talking about an overall construction of
- 57:50Speaker 1: the build, right, That's how I would have liked it
- 57:52Speaker 1: a little better. If you wanted to do the cheap
- 57:54Speaker 1: combo pack of Hollins and Mitchell, where most are looking
- 57:58Speaker 1: to pivot one way or the other, you would have
- 57:59Speaker 1: got Simil ownership, still had Taylor in there to make
- 58:02Speaker 1: it different, still had the story of Indie gets there
- 58:05Speaker 1: and Buffalo on the way back, or Buffalo gets there
- 58:08Speaker 1: first and Indy on the way back, however, and then
- 58:10Speaker 1: you would have been able to bump up to like
- 58:11Speaker 1: a kittle, still had room for a really good play
- 58:15Speaker 1: at running back, and been able to get away with
- 58:17Speaker 1: pretty much whoever ownership wise, and maybe you still stay
- 58:20Speaker 1: on or land on the Patriot. So I don't know,
- 58:23Speaker 1: just a quick thought, any any final thoughts on the
- 58:25Speaker 1: slate nads from you? No.
- 58:28Speaker 2: Overall, I think we broke it down pretty good and
- 58:31Speaker 2: talk through it. I really like that the Bijon thing, right,
- 58:34Speaker 2: I think more people got to kind of play attention
- 58:36Speaker 2: to similar stuff like that. Right, Lake breaking news, you
- 58:39Speaker 2: just know it's going to pull ownership. And it's not
- 58:41Speaker 2: because Bijon went out and got thirty two points, right,
- 58:43Speaker 2: It's because Bijon has been a beast all season and
- 58:46Speaker 2: he was projected to be the mega chalk of the slate.
- 58:48Speaker 2: When you get news like that, and you have other
- 58:50Speaker 2: good plays in that range that people are going to
- 58:52Speaker 2: you just know ownership is going to be held in check.
- 58:54Speaker 2: People can only play maximum of three running backs in
- 58:57Speaker 2: the team, right, So just stuff like that I think
- 59:00Speaker 2: is good. And then there it's literally another day ending
- 59:03Speaker 2: and why with the opposite defense of the most Chalky's
- 59:07Speaker 2: place on the slate. So the results aside, I think
- 59:10Speaker 2: that's another good learning for everyone.
- 59:13Speaker 1: H Everything we try to take away is all based
- 59:15Speaker 1: on the perspective of before the slate started, and then
- 59:18Speaker 1: we're looking at it after. That's why we're reviewing it,
- 59:20Speaker 1: but trying to give you little nuggets and tidbits that
- 59:22Speaker 1: you can take away. And then speaking of tidbits, got
- 59:24Speaker 1: to bring this up at the end, but I just
- 59:25Speaker 1: posted if you can help share it, post it around,
- 59:28Speaker 1: let people know we appreciate it. But it's a thousand
- 59:30Speaker 1: people so far that have hit me back, hit up
- 59:33Speaker 1: a thousand plus people three hundred plus hit me back
- 59:36Speaker 1: and the first dates out. It's not the main project,
- 59:38Speaker 1: but this is the part of it, very the beginning,
- 59:39Speaker 1: the piece of the puzzle. You see it in there.
- 59:41Speaker 1: But excited for this, so guys check it out. Tamos
- 59:43Speaker 1: tidbits dot com. That's gonna do it for this one,
- 59:46Speaker 1: for nads for myself to tag and tambo let ship it.
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