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Brandy and Julie on Biggest Loser, RHOC and Premature Documentaries · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on
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  Speaker 1: the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is
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  Speaker 2: Fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in,
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  Speaker 2: listen up.
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  Speaker 3: Woo, woo.
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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: You guys may not deserve the week that you're having
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  Speaker 1: here at Juicy Scoop because we have now your favorite
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  Speaker 1: two girls.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 2: Are back.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: No, we did not stop being friends. No, there is
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  Speaker 1: no big drama. They had a big Hollywood moment in Denver. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: For the past six weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Julie Goldman, Brandi Howard, stars of Dumb Gay Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Of stage and screen and theater and musicals and podcasting
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  Speaker 1: and commentating and watching TV.
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  Speaker 2: But per use, Chris Frangel got to come before we did.
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  Speaker 3: That motherfucker.
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  Speaker 1: He is my first real guest that sat in the
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  Speaker 1: chair besides my own self. And he was here on
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  Speaker 1: this week on Tuesday's show. And now you guys are here.
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  Speaker 2: We saw this room when it was a fixer. It
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  Speaker 2: was really homeless people were squatting in it. They really
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  Speaker 2: took a broken down house.
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  Speaker 1: It's a shanty town.
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  Speaker 3: And look what they've.
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  Speaker 1: Done to it.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I was standing on the street. I was flirting with.
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  Speaker 1: Different workers that drove by.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, everyone who's in here is wealthy. Everyone
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  Speaker 2: waves as they drive by. I was like, wow, this
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  Speaker 2: is the life.
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  Speaker 1: There is something about a neighborhood where everyone waves when
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  Speaker 1: they don't know each other. And I noticed it in
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  Speaker 1: my sister's gated community out in La Quinta years ago.
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  Speaker 1: And there is just something comforting about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to kill you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: We're not going to come steal anything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to hurt you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Hi.
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  Speaker 3: Great.
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  Speaker 2: This is heaven.
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  Speaker 3: It is like driving into Fantasy Island.
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  Speaker 2: Now, may I say this was all empty. It wasn't
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  Speaker 2: a fixer. It wasn't a shanty.
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  Speaker 1: I just hadn't moved in things at all. And I'm still,
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  Speaker 1: we're still playing around with the looks of it. Hopefully
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  Speaker 1: you are subscribed to the YouTube and you can watch
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  Speaker 1: it there and see our beautiful faces. But yes, it's
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  Speaker 1: always like a work in progress of the studio and whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But okay. So you guys were gone for six weeks
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  Speaker 1: and doing this theatrical production. And how, what did you
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  Speaker 1: like about being gone? And what are you happy to
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  Speaker 1: come home to Callie?
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  Speaker 3: Honestly?
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  Speaker 4: Honestly?
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I don't ever want to leave my
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  Speaker 3: bed again. I feel like I don't ever want to
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  Speaker 3: leave the bed.
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  Speaker 1: You had to leave it today.
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  Speaker 3: It's true, which is worth it. But I missed– I
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  Speaker 3: got so homesick.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 3: I got really homesick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I got– and when I was back home and
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  Speaker 3: was in my bed, I was just like, oh. I'm
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  Speaker 3: so lucky to be back. To have my bed.
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  Speaker 1: You just missed your own bed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. We did meet a lot of, this is true,
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  Speaker 2: we got stopped by a lot of Juicy Scoop fans. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 1: In Denver.
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  Speaker 2: It was really cool.
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  Speaker 1: Chris Vangelis just said he got stopped by someone in Iceland. Iceland? Said,
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  Speaker 1: I love you on Juicy Scoop. Wow. It just means
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  Speaker 1: so much to me because I'm very lucky to be
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  Speaker 1: doing what I do.
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  Speaker 2: The funny thing was they were all really attractive women too.
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  Speaker 1: I have the best looking audience.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you do.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm proud to say it. Yeah, you should.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we have a lot to discuss.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, oh my God.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, first I'm going to go back to this one
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  Speaker 1: because I just want to talk about the Netflix Fit
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  Speaker 1: for Life, Fit for TV, Fit for TV. And in it,
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  Speaker 1: Jillian Michaels did not participate. However, they talked obviously about
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  Speaker 1: her because she was one of the main– trainers. And
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  Speaker 1: it was that there was a big drama about the
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  Speaker 1: fact that she gave her team caffeine pills and it
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  Speaker 1: was on the show. And she said on the show, well,
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  Speaker 1: it's better than to me, in my opinion, it's better
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  Speaker 1: than giving a bunch of cup of coffees, which maybe
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  Speaker 1: would be caffeine. I mean, And so, but they said, well,
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  Speaker 1: we're still going to cut you four pounds. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to add four pounds to your group total. Cause remember
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  Speaker 1: they'd be competing against each other. So she is furious.
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  Speaker 1: And she says, I'm going to sue Netflix, Bob Harper,
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  Speaker 1: who was the other trainer, and Dr. Huizenga, who was
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  Speaker 1: like the medical doctor on it. And she said, I've
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  Speaker 1: got emails. I've got all this stuff about it going
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  Speaker 1: back and forth. And I read some of the texts
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  Speaker 1: and emails. And one of them that she shared was
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  Speaker 1: talking to a contestant and it said, just do a
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  Speaker 1: light workout tomorrow and make sure you have at least
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  Speaker 1: 1600 calories. And she submitted that to show that they're
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  Speaker 1: not starving the people. But then I noticed that the
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  Speaker 1: girl wrote, can't wait to be back at the ranch.
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  Speaker 1: So that tells me, and I'm just surmising from what
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  Speaker 1: I saw, I'm not on the legal case, but that
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  Speaker 1: tells me that whatever this contestant, because it was 19
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  Speaker 1: years of the show or something, had left and came
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  Speaker 1: back And by saying have at least 16 calories and
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  Speaker 1: don't work out that hard, in the special they said
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  Speaker 1: they wanted you to be as fat as possible when
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  Speaker 1: you came back. And these two sisters were going to
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  Speaker 1: do it. And they wanted to kind of get a
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  Speaker 1: jump start. And they're like, no, don't have a jump start.
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe it was the cop. Don't have a jump start.
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  Speaker 1: Be eating as much as you can. So when you
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  Speaker 1: come and we make you take off your top and
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  Speaker 1: we just have to see you in your bralette, you
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  Speaker 1: look fat as fuck. So of course the show is
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  Speaker 1: just shocking to anyone that wasn't living through it, which
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  Speaker 1: we did, living through it, meaning we watched it, we
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  Speaker 1: were aware of how inappropriate it was. But then just
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  Speaker 1: to watch it even 15 years later, it's just shocking.
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  Speaker 3: To Let me tell you my connection with Biggest Loser.
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  Speaker 1: Please do.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't even remember what year it is. We
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  Speaker 3: could look it up or not or whatever. But I
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  Speaker 3: knew and was friends with somebody who was on a contestant.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I believe she either won or came in second
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  Speaker 3: that season.
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  Speaker 1: How did you know?
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  Speaker 3: Her name is Poppy Kramer. Now, she was a comedian
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  Speaker 3: from New York. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And– Super talented, super funny. Also getting first or second is.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy good, right?
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  Speaker 3: That's so hard. She lost a shit ton of weight.
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  Speaker 3: She was very large and very short.
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  Speaker 1: Was she funny on the show?
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  Speaker 3: She's funny. She's a personality. She was a personality on
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  Speaker 3: the show. And I believe she was very, very liked
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  Speaker 3: and loved from the show, from what I understand.
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  Speaker 1: Where is she now?
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  Speaker 3: She died.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, stop.
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  Speaker 3: Stop.
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  Speaker 1: She died? She died.
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  Speaker 2: Of what? That's why I kind of didn't want you
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  Speaker 2: to say her name. No, it's okay. Well, she deserves her.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's why she wasn't in the special.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why she wasn't in the special. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: why is she not?
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  Speaker 1: Why are they using someone famous in the documentary? So
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  Speaker 1: what did she die from?
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  Speaker 3: Well, from what I understand, there was possibly an overdose situation.
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  Speaker 1: However- Of caffeine pills?
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  Speaker 2: AKA Adderall.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'll say this. I- She was a full comedian.
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  Speaker 3: So she did The Biggest Loser. I probably worked with her,
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know how many times, and I've been
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  Speaker 3: on the road with her. I knew her, I was
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  Speaker 3: friends with her. When she, after The Biggest Loser, or
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  Speaker 3: it might've been during the time when they, isn't there
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  Speaker 3: a hiatus between like, there's some hiatus where they end
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  Speaker 3: and they have to live and then go back.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's the- Yeah, I kind of remember that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that was included in the special,
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  Speaker 1: but in the documentary, but yeah. So in all that
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  Speaker 1: hiatus- And then they kind of like, yeah, go back
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  Speaker 1: to their house and show them.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So she was living the, you know, biggest loser, like,
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  Speaker 3: how am I going to keep this weight off lifestyle
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  Speaker 3: on the road? And when I tell you this bitch
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  Speaker 3: brought a scale as if it was the scales of justice, Drake,
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  Speaker 3: it was like the thing that you take down from
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  Speaker 3: the Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 1: And put here. Like the doctor's office, like, yes.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: It was huge.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 3: It had like two things.
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  Speaker 1: Why would she just need like a normal electric one?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: And she was like, I got to– she's kind of
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  Speaker 3: like a gruff, you know, Jew, New York Jew. And
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  Speaker 3: she was just like, I don't know. I just got
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  Speaker 3: to get this chicken and I'm not sure how much
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  Speaker 3: it's going to weigh. So now that's too much chicken.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, she brought a food scale. Yeah, food scale. I
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  Speaker 1: thought you meant a scale for her to step on.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no. Food scale.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And it was like her entire– it was– A thing.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, and she was weighing the food.
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  Speaker 1: And was she like running like you're at some gross
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  Speaker 1: motel and she's like running around the motel?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, and she was tiny, so skinny. She got
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  Speaker 3: so skinny. And then now in my personal opinion, they
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  Speaker 3: get so skinny in such a short amount of time.
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  Speaker 3: When you fluctuate in weight like that more than you know,
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  Speaker 3: a handful of times, you will die. And that's what
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  Speaker 3: I think occurred.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they taught that. It's very, very sad. How long
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  Speaker 1: did she pass? It's been a couple of years, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: It was, wasn't it before?
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  Speaker 1: It was before 20.
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  Speaker 2: 2020.
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  Speaker 3: It was 2018 or 2019. I think that she, I
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  Speaker 3: think she was the last time I saw her. I
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  Speaker 3: think she might've been a little depressed.
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  Speaker 2: It was very sad.
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  Speaker 3: But it was really, really, really sad. And she, she
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  Speaker 3: was constantly fighting that weight and she did, she did
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  Speaker 3: gain weight back. But she didn't get as fat as
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  Speaker 3: she was at the beginning, but she did fluctuate in weight.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's something happens. There's something happens when not
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  Speaker 3: only are you doing weight loss, which is extreme, which
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  Speaker 3: is so hard. And listen, we know, you know, fluctuating
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  Speaker 3: in the weight and everything and do what I have
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  Speaker 3: to do.
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  Speaker 1: We're all there, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, everybody pretty much is. It's pretty rare that
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  Speaker 1: someone is like, you know what? I've been happy with
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  Speaker 1: my weight and my body my entire life.
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  Speaker 2: You know who it is? Fucking Drake. Look at Drake.
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  Speaker 2: Look at his legs up. He's like, my body's good.
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  Speaker 3: Like literally.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, I don't know what you guys are talking about.
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  Speaker 3: It's like women's voices.
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  Speaker 1: I know. Well, guys, if they want to lose weight,
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  Speaker 1: all they have to do is be like, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to give up beer and fries. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: For a day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I lost 30 pounds last night.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, wow.
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  Speaker 2: Good for you.
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  Speaker 1: I know. My mother texted me like your brother lost
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  Speaker 1: 50 pounds.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, when? When?
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  Speaker 1: When? What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 3: He lost 50 pounds.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, great.
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  Speaker 3: Now I have to go kill myself.
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  Speaker 4: Great.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad he lost. He was able to lose 50.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know how hard that is? I skip bread
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  Speaker 2: for a night and I've lost 10 pounds.
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  Speaker 3: 50 pounds, that motherfucker.
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  Speaker 2: But there is that thing where you lose it quickly
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  Speaker 2: and then your heart.
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  Speaker 3: But then also I just want to add, and they're
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  Speaker 3: on a TV show.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And they become personalities. So now you're fluctuating in a
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  Speaker 3: huge amount of weight. You're living the lifestyle of being
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  Speaker 3: on reality TV and both of those things are taken away.
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  Speaker 3: And or one of those things is fluctuating. And I
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  Speaker 3: think the mental instability of that causes a lot of problems.
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  Speaker 1: And when you do start to gain weight, The former
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  Speaker 1: fat friends are calling each other and they're happy. They're
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  Speaker 1: getting fat again. And then the people that were rooting
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  Speaker 1: for you, strangers or not, are just like heartbroken. And
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  Speaker 1: then you're upset with yourself. But basically what they said
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  Speaker 1: in the doc is that First, it sounded like they
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  Speaker 1: were blaming it on the show. And then this one
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  Speaker 1: contestant said, listen, I fluctuated so much in my life
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  Speaker 1: of going up and down and up and down before
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  Speaker 1: I got to The Biggest Loser that I had probably
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  Speaker 1: already fucked my metabolism for life. And so they have
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  Speaker 1: this one guy that won it. And he, you know,
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  Speaker 1: had lost so much weight, literally like almost 200 pounds
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  Speaker 1: in six months or something. And he like shows his
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  Speaker 1: muscles and this and that. Then he gets on Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Oz and they, you know, fix his skin. And then
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  Speaker 1: they cut to him today and he's bigger than he
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  Speaker 1: was ever. He must be close to 400 pounds. But
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  Speaker 1: also he's sitting in a chair like we're sitting in.
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  Speaker 1: And I said to Drake, I go, seriously, like the angle,
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  Speaker 1: like they basically had the camera like going up from
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  Speaker 1: his crotch. So his stomach was like this. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. They had to show that he was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, heavy again, seemed happy. He's like, I have
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  Speaker 1: a great life. I have a great wife.
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  Speaker 3: He's like a.
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  Speaker 1: Teacher or something. Um, you know, and then the, the
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  Speaker 1: other people that had maintained their weight or even gotten thinner,
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  Speaker 1: they're like, I'm on, you know, I'm on Ozempic and
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  Speaker 1: it's fucking great. And it stopped the food noise and we're,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just thrilled. And, you know, so, and then they,
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  Speaker 1: you know, cut to, you know, Jillian Michaels saying, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if they cut to her on the special.
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  Speaker 1: I saw it somewhere where she's with Bill Maher and
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  Speaker 1: she's just like, yeah, it doesn't work and you'll die
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. Well, of course, that industry doesn't really want it.
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  Speaker 1: But now there's a lot that are going with it
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  Speaker 1: being like, Here's some, here's a supplement you can take
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  Speaker 1: to keep you regularly. Here's a way to get your
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  Speaker 1: protein in. Oh, this is what you have to do
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  Speaker 1: when you're on GLPs. You have to, you know, if
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  Speaker 1: you're going to eat, I just saw a commercial for
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  Speaker 1: a prepared meals that are specific if you are on
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  Speaker 1: GLP ones so that they're so high protein.
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  Speaker 3: The money that's going to be made. I mean, come on.
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  Speaker 2: But why wasn't Jillian Barbary, I mean, Jillian Michaels, why
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  Speaker 2: wasn't she invited to participate? Well, that's what people said.
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  Speaker 1: If you had a big gripe about it, why wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: you come on? I think that she's just become like
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  Speaker 1: very controversial in her opinions of things. And I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I had her on my show years ago. And she
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  Speaker 1: dropped the juiciest bomb that I was like, literally had
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  Speaker 1: to change my underwear after. I was like, I am
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  Speaker 1: so wet. This is insane. What was it? Well, then
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  Speaker 1: I got the call like right before it was about
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  Speaker 1: to go up while I was actually at Jill Zarin's house.
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  Speaker 1: And it was like, you can't play that part. Was
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  Speaker 1: it about the biggest loser?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you at lunch, but it was about
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  Speaker 1: when she was, she was an agent's assistant. And she
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  Speaker 1: would hear, you know, anytime an agent has a call
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  Speaker 1: with anybody, the assistants on the phone, like taking notes
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  Speaker 1: and things.
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  Speaker 2: Like rolling the call.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Back in the day. Now, I guess you could just,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: you know, record it or whatever. But like back then
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: you'd have someone kind of, and she would.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Hear a.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Very, let me say, Epstein-like behavior of meeting people. And
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: so something like that is all I'm going to say.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know who, you know, but obviously someone could go, oh, well,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: who did you work for? Whatever. So all I'm saying
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: is she said, take it out. And I didn't have
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: it in there. And, um, but it was something about
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: whatever she heard was, you know, juicy, juicy. And she
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: said it all. And I couldn't believe that she was
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: saying it, but I can see why. It's a dangerous
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: thing for me even to reference right now, which I wonder,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: did I say too much? No.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: You really didn't.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: No.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: We couldn't figure it out.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Not at all.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: We can't figure it out.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: At all.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: It was just not a good story about these people
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: working in that industry.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: So then the story that I remember hearing is that
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: she was.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Like, like in an age, I, yeah. And then this,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: this job came up and she was getting into fitness
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: and she like auditioned for it, but she was actually
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: representing people or was on her way to be an age.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: So she's been in the industry for a long time,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: entertainment industry.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: But she was just a fit person who was auditioning?
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Like she wasn't a trainer?
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: You know, now I'm like wondering if I am remembering
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: the story, but she definitely worked as an agent's assistant
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: at a big agency. And then between there and somehow
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: then got on this and, you know, it was just
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: such a... a good combination between the two of them
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: and all that. But this other guy just did an
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: interview and he said, the only thing that Jillian Michaels
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: told us to do, because he was one of the contestants,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: is the night before the weigh-in, they'd rub Peperation H
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: all over their bodies. Because some people, you know, put
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: it on their butthole, but other people put it like
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: under their eyes to like take away puffiness. So if
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: you put it all over your body, that will suck
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: up the water weight a little bit. Then you do
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: your weigh-in and then you go drink some water. And
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: according to him, which the interview was on TMZ, he
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: said that was one of the things that she said
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Does that like tighten up your skin?
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:54
  Speaker 7: I mean, it reminds me of when like people would
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: do those, you know, Tamara and Teresa, like workout fitness
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: things where they make you like, they paint you like
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: a chocolate Brown.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Part of that is they want you to be super
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: dehydrated so that your skin sucks to your muscles so
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: much that Like, so you are really like barely drinking
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: water for like three days before. You drink the tea,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: you go in the bath. Yeah, you're not drinking any water.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Which is like such a weird thing because it's like
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: drink as much water as possible is the healthy thing
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: as I take a sip.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Didn't the one other guy die too? Didn't one of
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: the host people die?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: No, Bob Harper had a horrible heart attack.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, he had a heart attack.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: He had a horrible heart attack. And he said that
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: out of everybody that he knew in his life, everyone
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: reached out to him but Jillian Michaels.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: What do you.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Think the difference between a regular heart attack and a
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: horrible heart attack is?
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, he had a long recovery.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: So he fully had a heart attack.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: He literally was at a gym or somewhere and fell
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: to the ground. And I don't know if he was
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: working out or what, but yeah, I guess like a
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: ticking time bomb, one of those things where it's like
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: a heart attack is a heart attack. Yes, there's ways
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: to prevent it, but It happens to the healthiest people
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: and it happens to the ones that are not, I
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: But- But he's still alive. He's still alive.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: He looks good. And then this other guy I saw said,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I want to tell you my Bob Harper story. This
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: is just somebody I saw on like TikTok. And he's like,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I was a gay fatty and there's nothing worse than
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: being a gay fatty, but I was a gay fatty.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: And I, but I love Bob Harper because he's a
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: thin gay, you know, and a fit gay and gay
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: with a little dog. So I mean, what could be better?
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: So He's like, I bought the books. I did the diets.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I was working my ass off and I had lost
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of weight, you know, for him. And he
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: sees him out one day and he's like, oh my God, Bob, um,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I'm such a huge fan and everything. And he, and
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: then he's doing the tech job and he goes, and
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: hold on, I'm gonna stop the recording. And then I'm
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: going to do another bit. That's what he says to
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: show you what, how Bob Harbert looked at me.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: And he said, Bob Harbert went like this. He went, Like,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: he went, okay. And just, like, walked away. Oh, my God.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Looked him up and down and was like, okay. Like,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: thanks for saying you're a fan of mine, but you're
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: not a body I approve of still. Like, it was just, God.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: But I think since he almost died, he's probably gotten nicer.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Must be. Was he in the dark?
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Well, he was in the doc all over the doc. Yeah.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I love that she's not in the doc. I'm living
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: by that. That is so shady that they do everyone and.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: They don't do her.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: She's like one of the main things of the show.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I think people choose not to do the doc
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: because they're like, screw you. It won't be that good
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: without me. Or it's not for pay.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: And they're like, I'm not doing it.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Or they do ask for pay and it doesn't meet
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: their amount. And they're like, fuck it. But the thing is,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: is that, yeah, then you don't know what someone's going
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: to say about you from 15 years ago.
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the one square
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: before bed. Or two, you know. Nobody's watching.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: You deserve a treat.
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: With eight flavors to choose from, you can choose the
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: flavor you favor with Cadbury Dairy Milk.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: filed against me.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: what would you do if it was given back?
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: home dad.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: What happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: happens next.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I decided to risk it all.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I realized how valuable every day was.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: You're worth the work.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, let me ask you. Exactly. If they come
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: and they go, we're doing Chelsea Lately doc.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure it's next because guess what doc they're
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: doing next?
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: What?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. I cannot believe this person has a doc, okay?
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: William White... was on my show because he had every
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: woman over 50 rubbing one out to him during COVID.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: He was a Canadian cute boy that would poorly lip sync. Oh, Mandy,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: and I have you on them and songs like that
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: right to the camera. And it just, it made you
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: feel like John Travolta was singing to you. And so
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: it was like, It was a big thing. And anyway,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: he came on my show and I got to hear
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the whole story of how he became, like how this
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: all happened, how he just heard this, his dad was
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: playing this song and he just did it. And then
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: it just blew up. And then it was like, oh
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: my God, only do songs from like the seventies.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: So it was all Barry Manilow.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: It was all like songs from the seventies and like
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: him being cute. Then he got a modeling agent and
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I remember talking to him on Zoom and he's like,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: so do you see palm trees? And I was like, yeah,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: like we live in LA, there's palm trees everywhere. And
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: he goes, I just want to see a palm tree
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: one day. And I was like, oh, I should appreciate
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: these palm trees more.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: So where does he live? He was in Canada. And
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: then he said, I'm working on my weight. The modeling
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: agent was saying like, he needs to slim down. And
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I said, well, I think you should get into acting
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and dah, dah, dah, dah. Cause he was just so appealing.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Then I never heard about him again. He has his
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: own documentary on September 9th on Paramount Plus.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: What are we documenting? His.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: His weight journey? The entire trailer is just basically TikToks
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and women responding to TikToks. And then that also women
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: bought him things and that they came up to him
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and his own mother was like, you know.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: You're in the doc for sure.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: No, I, I, I, I mean, not in the trailer,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: but I said, I said.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I should appreciate the palm trees.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was just a zoom thing. So I
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: don't know, but they could, you know, if it, and
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know that it was on YouTube at the time.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: So it's like, they could take things off of YouTube
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: without asking me. I will have no idea if it's on.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Are they allowed to use a clip from your podcast
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: without clearing?
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: As long as it's on YouTube. Yeah.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: It has to be for 2020.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: It's not. Oh, well it's on, oh, in 2020 you mean?
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. We'll have to check, but it's Paramount Plus.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: We've got to be in the William White doc. You know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: and yeah, I think that he struggled with the fame
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and then people were sending him money and tips and
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: all this stuff. And the mom's like, we never had
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: a meal that we didn't pay for, but then people
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: would be coming up to us. And so I'm sure
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: it was, it's going to be kind of something about
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: how like It's the first TikTok fame, you know? What
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: was that show on E that was like E true
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Hollywood story? It's going to be like E true TikTok story.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Like it's just a TikTok story.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Of how he like degraded.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't think he ever did like come
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and do any acting or anything. I don't know. But
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: now he has his own doc. So yes, should there
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: be a documentary about Chelsea Lin?
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: My question to you- Wait, I have a question too. No,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: but my question is, would you- Uh-huh. They're going to
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: do Chelsea lately. They're going to have all the people.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: We all know the people. We don't need to say.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: But.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Because Julie and I love to be like, that's going
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: to cost you. Like, we don't have time. We're time poor.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: We're very time poor.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Would you.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Do it for... Okay, let me give you the parameters.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: You're going to have to drive to.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Culver City.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Culver City's far.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, and it's so inconvenient. People who don't live here
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: don't understand how inconvenient it is. It really is.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: From the valley. And over Robertson, and you still have
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: so long to drive. It's just so long. You've still
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: got to.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Honestly, it's more convenient for you now than it is
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: for us. From Burbank to Culver City, I'm like this. Nope,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing it.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I'll go to Vegas.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: You could literally say drive to Vegas and I'd do it. Oh,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: the audition's in Vegas?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I'll be there.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: So it's Culver City.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: It's 8 a.m.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: It's a six hour day.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Yes. Okay.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Now you get to do the thing where you go,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: are we really doing this?
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: No.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Guess we're really doing this. Free. I have done every
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: documentary that I've been part of for bone free. I
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: have never been paid for any documentary, any Nightline, any
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Hulu doc, any The Hustler and The Housewife.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: No.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I just recently found out that people can get paid.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: You haven't gotten paid for the things we see on
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: the shit?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: No.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Are you shocked?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Don't be shocked. I'm a thirst bucket.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Somebody is going to be running the camera besides my
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: son at this point that I'm like, yeah, I'll be there.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: No, I'm shocked because you'll be paid to literally show
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: up to a party. But I would also go to
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the party for free.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: But if they're paying, I'm like, great.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: So they don't pay for these dogs? I had no idea.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I only.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Like some people may be, right, yeah.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: TMZ can do it. I found out only through somebody else,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: that we were both part of it, and I got
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: paid nothing, and that person got paid hundreds of thousands
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: of dollars. But I have to say, without... That particular person,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think that there really would have been a
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: doc at all. So I don't blame someone for demanding it.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: It's kind of under the guise of like journalism and stuff.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: So I know when they've done, they did a housewife
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: one recently. They've done housewife ones. And I've heard that
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: when they reached out to real housewives, they have said,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: we want to be paid. And if they were offering them,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: it was so little that they're like, I don't think
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I want to do it, you know, when it's not
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: a Bravo related thing. Like if I'm going to kind
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: of piss off Bravo and talk about like, it's got to,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: you know, be significant.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Okay. You have a question, but I have one more.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: First of all, of course I would do it because
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: it was such a big part of my life. I
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: would never not be part of it.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: You know, it's six hours. It's 8am Culver City.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Yes. I would do my own hair and makeup like
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I always do.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Do you decide, okay, I'm not being paid. Now I'm,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: and this goes with the Bravo thing too. It's like, okay,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: well then I'll come do your free bullshit, but I'm
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: not giving the dirt. But now if they give you,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: let's say they give you 10 grand for an hour
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: and then you're like, okay, I'm just going to.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Tell all this shit.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Like how far do you go telling the secrets in
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: the doc? Are you going to be- Well, I.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Feel like I have talked a lot about it on
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: my podcast and on Patreon, so I feel like it's already,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: there's nothing I would spill there that I haven't spilled
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: somewhere else, even on the Get Me Behind Gates level
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: of Patreon, but I would have to, I don't remember.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I've done like 900 episodes, but I know there's probably
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: very little. It would probably, the way they would get
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the dirt is if they brought up something that I
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: honestly had forgotten about.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: And then you'd sell the truth?
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, at this point, sure. There isn't that much like...
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: there's nothing illegal or salacious or sexual harassment or anything
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: that ever happened on that show. It's just like, oh, wow.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: You know, that like, just like it would be about
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the fit for life. Like, wow, that's, I can't believe they,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: you know, to someone that's, you know, 25 watching TV now,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: they'd be like, I can't believe they did that. I can't,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: oh my God, that's horrible. Like, what was that about?
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Like when we saw you making out with Fortune when
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: you were being Jerry Joel. Heather, Heather.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: See, I forgot about that.
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: I literally forgot.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: It's so good.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Drink. Your mom made out with a full woman.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Cause we're doing, I mean, yeah, we would just do
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: crazy shit. But the thing is that there wasn't, there
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: weren't podcasts then cutting a clip and dissecting it. There weren't,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: there wasn't, there wasn't even Instagram until like the last
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: couple of years of the show. There wasn't all of that.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even like people tweeting about it just because
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the next day there'd be a whole nother show.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: So there wasn't just, there wasn't a long way of
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: it living. It wasn't on YouTube. The episodes weren't on YouTube.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: You either watched it on E or you didn't watch
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: it at all. So it's just like, The only time
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: that someone got mad was when she made a joke
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: about Syria.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: And Syrian people were like, she needs to apologize. And
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: she's like, well, I'm not. And then the other one
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: was a comment, some comment that was made about Anna
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Nicole's daughter and Birkhead was like, well, let me come
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: down and you interview me about it or something. And
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: we're just like, no, like that was it. Like we just,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the next day moved on. We never like the, the
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: rerun would only run, like the rerun would only happen,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: you know, within that week or maybe a random one
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: once in a while. But like, so there weren't reruns for,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like a sitcom, like, oh, we better remove that.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: You know? So it was just kind of like, yeah.
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I think we're probably next. I think we're
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: probably next to have a doc.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Do you want to ask your question?
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, everybody has one. So, like, why don't we
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: have one yet? Oh, he's so good. Yeah.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I really enjoyed this hard-hitting interview session.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I have even more to say because they
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: just spun off E out of NBCU.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: There's so many opportunities.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: So many. This would be such a good documentary.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: It would be such a good documentary. My question is
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: this for both of you.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Actually, it should be more than one episode.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, I will say this.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I will say this.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Besides not getting paid, which I still don't, I have finally,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: after living out far from everything in LA my entire life,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Woodland Hills, now further in Thousand Oaks, I now have,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: when people ask, I say, you can come to the house.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: That now I do that. So I wouldn't be going
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: to Century City. And I do think if they do
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: the Chelsea Lately thing- that I'm valuable enough that they
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: would come to my house.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: And I do see Drake making a note like, I'm
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: going to say no to the documentary because now I
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: have to deal with setting up the house.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, go on, yes.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Here's my question. This is, you know, just to piggyback
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: on this interview. My question is this. Is it attractive
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: when a grown man says, all I want is to
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: see a palm tree?
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Going back to William White. It was like.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Do we, how do we feel about that?
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Honestly, It made me go, I need to appreciate where
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I grew up and live. I am appreciative of my
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: life in California, which is why I'm not moving to Wyoming.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Or Austin. Or any of the other states that treat
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: you better. It was expensive. But yeah. And you don't
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: have to pay taxes or whatever the case. But yeah,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I just was like... yeah, that must be. I also
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: kind of thought, oh, you're right. Like you grow up
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: in a cold part of Canada and you see, not
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: in 210, you see all the movies that involve palm
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: trees and you've never seen one. And I just thought
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: that's such a simple, sweet thing. And I do think
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: he was kind of a simple guy. I mean, he
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: wasn't going to college or anything. And I remember his
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: parents were I remember something I was like, are any
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: of these women trying to like get to your dad?
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: You know, cause clearly they're like old and you're like
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the younger version of your dad. And he said, yeah.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: And it's like a pro, you know, like I have
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: a mom, like she likes my dad. Like it's a
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: little bit much. Like I remember it was, it was
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: short because I'm like, I'm interviewing this like TikTok sensation
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: five years ago and nobody, no, but everyone still thinks
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: TikTok is dancing and he's doing lip syncing.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: And um literally useless he's a useless but no it
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: is a documentary.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: And they but they did not contact me i will
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: be absolutely shocked if they show a clip of juicy
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: scoop i'll die did.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: He not actually sing the song he lip-synced them.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah the man and you know he has a lifetime
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: doc a doc about his life no it's about it's.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: About 50 year old women and how they need help
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: That's the doc. The doc is what is the psychosis
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: that happened to these women. You actually came with the
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: take that's so good because it never even would have
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: occurred to me that they're coming for the dad. I
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: never even would have thought that they would.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like is he single? Is he da-da-da-da, you know? Um, okay.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: So a little update on a case that we've been covering,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: which is a lawsuit involving Kevin Costner and stunt woman,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Devin LaBella, who is my niece. And, um, she has
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: been a professional stunt woman for years and stunt coordinator
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: and was, you know, had a, you know, over a
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: hundred things on IMBD. She's a working since she was
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: three years old. She's very professional. And basically the case
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: is she was working on, as a stunt double in
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: this particular scene, on Horizon 2, which is a Kevin
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Costner trilogy. And she'd worked on the first one. And
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: there was a rape scene where she was playing the
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: doubling for the lead in which it was not planned out.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: It was not worked through the rules of SAG-AFTRA, which
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: is you need to have this many hours prior to
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: doing it, you need to meet with an intimacy coordinator,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: you need to know about it, and basically to lead
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: up to it, Now, Kevin Costner's people are asking for
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: it to be dismissed. And part of the dismissal and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: all these articles that was written about Devin is that
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: there's people on set that said she seemed fine and
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: was acting professional afterwards and was not screaming and crying.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: And in fact, they zoomed on in photos where she
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: looked to be having a slight smile.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So and just so people know, too, you know,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: everything that's been reported that right away there's text messages
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: of her saying what the hell happened. She was so
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: distraught she actually sought a therapist within three weeks of
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: this incident. So to try to do a story of, well,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: now it's now many, many times, many years later, this
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: person is doing a money grab or whatever. That's not
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: at all the case. She went through all the proper
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: channels of saying, hey, something went wrong. This shouldn't have happened.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: And I don't want this to happen to future women,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: especially in my business. Then she was shut out and
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: not heard and pretty much blackballed and not worked since.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: And you know, there is, this is Hollywood and he's
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: a huge mogul and these people that are now, you know,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: signing off on it are all men who worked on
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: the show that was about women in the 1800s.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, is that what it is?
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: It was like a Western. And so, um, it just
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: kind of ironic that her, this female character and person
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: wasn't really respected either on the set.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: What does it mean when you ask for a case
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: to be dismissed? I mean, doesn't.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Everyone want that? I mean, I don't think it's going
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: to happen because they have so much evidence of correspondence
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: and everything else. And now people will have to be.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: So he like filed a thing to have the judge
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: dismiss it.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: There's no way you can get out of this.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: There's no way you can get out of this.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: That she was fine, that this is bullshit.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: And she got a slight smile on her face.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: This can't be dismissed.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: You can sue someone if you want. She was professional.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: God forbid you're professional after you're harassed at work.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, when I was harassed by Norm Pattis, I
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: chuckled uncomfortably too. Of course.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: We all do.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: It doesn't, you know, it's like, you're just like, what's
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: going on?
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: And when she's a stunt person, she's like literally trained to,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: To be in a scary, stressful, life-threatening situation and play
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: it off like it's not scary. That's literally the job
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: of a stunt person.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Of course she did that and then was processing it.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: And not for nothing, if I may.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Even in real life, even if you're in a back
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: alley and you get, even if, you cannot win for
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: losing with shit like this with women. Like you can't even.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: There's no right way to react.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: What were you and also what were you wearing even
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: if it truly happened in real life how many times
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: what was she wearing why did she go to his
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: hotel room why did you let him open the door
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: why did you let him touch you why did you
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: why did you why did you it's always the woman's
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: fault always whether it's at work or whether it's an
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: actual real life whether it's it's just like you.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Know We hate this story, Heather. It's so triggering.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: It drives me insane.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: And now she's going to be told she doesn't even
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: have the right to... When she did everything right that
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: every woman is scared to.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Do right after. And did it right the way the
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: unions are telling you to do it, the way you
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: go to your superior, you have a conversation with them,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: all this stuff. And yeah, I assume he is who
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: he is and is like... going his way. And, you know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: he's a huge person in Hollywood. He can give a
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: lot of people jobs. Is it so hard? Devin, the
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: stent woman is not, it doesn't, it does not have
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: a studio named after her and is not going to
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: be hiring a million people. So the people that were
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: on her side, I'm assuming either, you know, are not
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: coming to the But we'll see because it's now going
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: to have to go to the next level. But this
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: is just another way to prolong it.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Well, now even if you did makeup or hair and
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: now you– it was kind of like that Nickelodeon doc.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: It's like now I'm going to go forward.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Now I'm going to.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Go and testify.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Then I'm going to lose my job.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Now I'm not going to get to do hair on
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Horizon 10, you know, because I want to say I
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: witnessed this.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: When it goes to trial, all those people will have
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: to share and there is, you know, going to be
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: evidence of that, you know.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Kevin Costner had an opportunity to step up and be
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: a real man and to.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: I would imagine it would have gone a long way
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: for him to go, you know what? I'm really sorry.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: And we weren't thinking. And pay a certain amount of
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: money to her. Apologize. Perhaps change the rules on the
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: set moving forward. Be an actual man. Be a human
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: being and try and do something and try and do
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: it right. This is somebody's, you have daughters, you have
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: a wife. You did.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: What are we doing here?
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: The reason, the only thing, I thought the same thing.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: The only thing I thought was, It's maybe just a
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: huge narcissistic ego of someone like that of never wanting
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: to admit that they did anything wrong. And then also
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: maybe not by not admitting, because I was like, why
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you just say, hey, there was a massive miscommunication
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: on my set. And, you know, therefore this and this
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: was all before there was any, you know. This was
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: all in the beginning. Yeah. It was just like, just
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: acknowledge and let's see what, how we can fix it.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: And then it was like, no, you know, now you're
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: no longer, you're no longer asked back on the next movie.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: You're no longer, you know, now you have the major
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: stink on you. Like I've, we've, I've had stink on
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: me where people just avoid me and it's been nothing
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: like this. And that's just, you know, it's you, you
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: think things got better since Me Too? No, it's almost
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: like it took a different turn that it's like, So anyway,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: that's where we're at with that. And I'm excited to
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: see what else will come.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: So the lawsuit's going forward, but he's trying to get
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: it dismissed.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Yes. Saying that there's no merit to it and everything.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: And there definitely is. Otherwise, you know, she wouldn't have...
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: There's so much evidence.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Devin, when you want the vigilante group to get together, okay?
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I am like so down. You have no idea.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Well, we are definitely 100% obviously behind her.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: And the Blake Baldoni thing didn't get dismissed, did it?
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: No, that's still going. And the latest on that is...
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: is very interesting because She, you know, she has deposed
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: content creators thinking that he or Wayfair may have paid
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: them to do a smear campaign. He has deposed the
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: girl that played her in the younger version of herself
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: in It Ends With Us. And now she is saying
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: that she's being harassed and bullied by being subpoenaed by Justin,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: which of course he has a right to subpoena her
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: because she was on the set and he's being accused
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: of sexual harassment. And it's like, Listen, you know, whatever
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: happened there, that needs to be cleared up and exposed
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: as well. Like, I'm not blatantly going, you know, oh,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: it's always this person's in the right. But when something
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: goes wrong, like, let's see. She's saying something went wrong
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: on the set. So we'll see what comes out of
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: it and where we go with it.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I certainly hope this thing with Devin is not
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: thrown out. That will be such a tragic injustice on
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: top of injustice.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Injustice on top of it.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: It's crazy.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think so, but it's hard. Now we're going
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: to get into Housewives now and we're going to have
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: such even a better time when we get into the
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Housewives in person during BravoCon on Friday, November 14th at
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: the MGM Grand. And it's going to live juicy scoop.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: So let's get into Friday, November 14th.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Okay. Let's talk about Real Housewives of OC because there's
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: so much going on.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: I do want to tell people that you have some
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: major tea.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I have lots of teeth I'm saving.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: You have so much good shit that you're, she will not,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: you guys, I want you to know, she won't let
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: us talk about it here.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: She'll barely let us talk about it on the phone.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: But we will be in Vegas too, by the way. Yes,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: of course.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: She wants to save it for Vegas and it is
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: so good.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: We've talked about it so many times.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: We're obsessed.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: There's a piece.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: That you guys have to come to the Vegas show
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: so you can hear it.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Okay. So now let's talk about what's going on in
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Real Housewives OC because it's a lot. And if you're
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: not watching, you know, I always make it interesting for you.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you what's going on. There's
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: a girl who's in her second season named Katie. She's
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: a very pretty Asian girl who was adopted from, I think,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Korea to a white family. And she is divorced and
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: married to a very nice guy. And she was living
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: in San Diego, but she very much wanted to be
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: on the OC and is renting a house in the OC.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: And she's on it. She's very attractive. She... reached out to,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I am telling you, every person that has an Instagram
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: account that might have Bravo somewhere written into the description.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: I personally talked to five different people that she reached
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: out and talked to, to try to befriend and get
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: info out about her castmates. So we see this uncovering
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: on the show because those same people that she talked to,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: other housewives like Tamara also talk to, in my opinion.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: So Tamara has been talking to people like me from
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: a million years ago, but I never broke stories. Like
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I get these housewives, don't tell anybody, don't tell anybody.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: And they kind of want me to say it on
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: my show, but that's not what I do. And, but
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: these other people are like, oh my God, I'll do
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: a meme about it. I'll share that thing. So, you know,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: she talks to these other people and it starts to
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: get out. And then It gets back to what she said.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: It gets back to Tamara through the other people that
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: do all this. And then Tamara brings it out on camera.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: And it's that Gretchen, who was on the show many
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: years ago, There was an infamous scene with Gretchen and
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Tamara where Gretchen goes to Tamara's house and Tamara has
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: got her older son there, Ryan, and Vicki. And she goes,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: let's get Gretchen naked wasted. Let's get her naked wasted.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: And there's like a tequila tasting and they keep giving
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: it to her. And she gets drunk. She gets real drunk.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: She's like, I'm drunk. You know, she's getting all drunk.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: And he, Ryan is bartending and he's trying to get
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: with her and she's, and you can hear her go,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I don't get away from me. I have a very
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: nice fiance who was Jeff, who was the fiance that
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: she had that then died of cancer before she got
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: with Slade. So that was that. So according to Katie,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Katie tells this other person that does what we all do.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: And she says, I was out with Gretchen and Gretchen
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: said that Tamara roofied her that night. And then that
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: person goes and tells other people that do what we
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: do and they go and tell Tamara. So like podcasters, bloggers, everything. Okay.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: And people that do meme ones, people that have our
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: anonymous accounts that you don't know if they're a guy
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: or a girl, all those people. And then they, that
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: person then tells Tamara and Tamara, you know, is.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Like, So the chain was that supposedly Gretchen told Katie
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: and Katie told the bloggers.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: And then the bloggers told other bloggers who then told Tamara.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: And then Tamara then is like, oh, it's a slow
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: day in New Orleans. I'm going to drop the shit now.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: And she says it to Gretchen, who's like, what? Oh,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: my God. I'm watching it. And I'm like, this is
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: what I think happened. And this is just my opinion
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: because I... I am not talking to these people, but
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I just know how it works because other people's told
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: me about this months ago that this was coming down.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: And when they told me about it months ago, the
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: word roofie was not used. Okay. So I don't think
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: the word roofie was ever used.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Was it just drugs?
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: What I think happened was I think Gretchen in talking
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: to Katie was going through her history with Tamara or
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: the show and said, Oh my God, that night I
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: have never been more drunk. I probably had alcohol poisoning
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: or should have gone to urgent care or whatever. It
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: was crazy. That's what I think she said. Then I
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: think Katie, who clearly has a problem with exaggeration and
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: the truth because they have her doing a lie detector
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: test later, went and said, oh, my God, you know,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Gretchen said that she like almost died. died from, you know,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: being at Tamara's house, being drunk. And then I think
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: that that got back to Tamara. And then I think personally,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: then Tamara added the word roofie to it, which then
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I think puts a legal element to it, gets everyone scared, defamation, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Also,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: roofied is like kind of a Gen X word. Like
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: it's kind of an older word. It's like I don't
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: really feel like people say it. And the only time
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: I've ever had someone say it is when Shannon one
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: time told me that she thought she was roofied at
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: a bar in Newport.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I didn't even say it in the candy scandal. Remember
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: with Candy with Phaedra? It's not Roofie. They didn't say Roofie.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: So anyway.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They said like drugged them or whatever.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Gretchen's like, I don't, that's not what, you know, Katie said.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: And Katie's like, I didn't say that. I never said,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I never said that. And Gretchen's like, my God, I
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: never accused Roofie. camera or whatever. I'm like, I just
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: think this is a case of like telephone that just
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: then got exactly, everyone wanted to up the story they
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: heard previously. And so now it becomes this whole big thing. And,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: you know, and all these people are coming out and saying,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: oh my God, well, I met with Katie too. And
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Katie told me that, you know, this husband's gay and
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: this house husband is gay. That's always the thing they
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: always say. There's always been rumors that, uh, you know,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: the happily married people on the show, Tamara and Eddie,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Eddie's gay, uh, Heather and Terry, Terry's gay. You know,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: it's always like, and there's no proof to it. There
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: isn't one person. There isn't one person that's ever said, yes,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: here is a photo of he and I, and my
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: name's Tom and we had sex. Like no one's ever
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: really gone on the record to say it, but it's
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: such an easy thing to like throw out there.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Right and so definitely not todd chrisley because he's definitely
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: straight no.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: And also he is as straight as can be and
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: also shane's gay not terror right right okay shane's gay
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: not terror dr terror's not gay dr terror's all.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Shane wants to do is do me from behind while
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: i have an espresso martini that's right he does i
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: wish he was gay he was gay he'd have more style.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: He is remember they were saying about ken too That
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: kind of reminded me of Lisa Vanderpump. That was right.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: That guy, that grifter that lived with her then said
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Ken was gay. Oh, why is he gay? Oh, because
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: they ran gay clubs. Why is Eddie, Tamara's husband, gay?
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Because at one time he had a gay roommate. Again, Again,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think any of these guys are. My personal
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: opinion is none of them are. Do you imagine the
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: beautiful life that Eddie could have if he was gay instead.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Of being a house husband?
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's good looking.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: He lives in Newport.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Like, no, obviously they've been married a long time now. Like,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: that's not the case. But those are the things that
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: gets out there. And now I feel like people are.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: Like, good.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Say my husband's gay. Like, I don't fucking care. You know,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: like who cares? It's so not a big deal anymore.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: But it's all that kind of stuff. So there's that.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: We definitely think Peter might be.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: I wonder too.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Well, there was a thing with that shirt that he wore.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, right. Remember the gay shirt? At the thing for
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: the attorney general?
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: He had that gay shirt on.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: At where? It was rented and it was very, it
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: was gingham.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: There was gay guys all trying to hit on him.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: That was so great. Yes. I went to a thing
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: about a political thing for a gay man who was
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: running for attorney general.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: It was nonpartisan.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: And Peter was just talking to him about, you know,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: policy and things like that. Like, we were pretty excited
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: to be at this thing. And then someone said, and
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: how did you guys meet? And I said, he's my husband.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, I thought he was the husband
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: to the guy running for attorney general. And I... Never
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: got a better compliment in my entire life. And it was.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: It was because he was doing... I think he stopped
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: doing that, Drake. He was part of a group, a
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: thing that would send him clothes. It was called the
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Gay Men's Chorus.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: It was called the LGBTQ shirt rental thing.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: LGBTQ Men's Gay Men's Chorus. So anyway, it's all.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: crazy and ugly.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: So do you think that Katie, so you, are you
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: saying that this was an accidental game of telephone and
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: that she's denying it and that she does?
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I know. I think she set out to, I think
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: she played the game completely wrong thinking I'm going to
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: follow and talk to every single person that has any
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: kind of stake in the Bravo world and commenting on
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: it to get them on my side and in having
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: their attention, I'm going to exaggerate and maybe even make
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: up stories. And I do believe that she did that.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: And thank God she did.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Because otherwise we don't have a show.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Honestly, that's the whole name of the game. I mean,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, that's the show. But, I mean, apparently
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Bravo's not happy. You know, Alex isn't happy.
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: Oh, really?
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Alex Baskin about that this is going on. But it's like, well,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: too bad. Like, this is what it is now. But
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, it's not... I don't know. It's like
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: the toothpaste is out of the tube. How are we
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: ever going to get back to just them actually talking
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: about what's going on at the party? Like Naked Wasted.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Even with Naked Wasted, that was like a juicy scene.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: And of course, 17 years later, it looks really bad.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: It looks really bad, but... It's giving the biggest loser. Yeah.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: She wouldn't do that today, but she did it 17
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: years ago and whatever.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: I am sick of the blogger situation in it. I
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: think it's played out. I love the low stakes drama
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: of like Tamara showing the picture of Jen.
• 55:19
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: So then she, Tamara's on a role saying that Jen
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: wanted to be her. And by saying want to be her,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: did she want to be on the show?
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: She probably did. She's divorced mother of five. She's in
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: the town. She knows the people. She's awesome. Yeah, she
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: wants to be on it. So she said she came
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: to my gym. She, you know, was trying to be
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: my friend. Should no one come to your gym?
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: That's what a gym is. Like, this is like the
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: known pickpocketer. I don't understand what's in people's heads. Like,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: you have a gym. People go to the gym. There's
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: a woman who clearly wanted to lose weight and work out,
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: so she went to, you know where?
• 55:59
  Speaker 9: Your gym.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: And by the way, she has such a good body now.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Now she has such a good body. So then, of course,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: you know, Tamara's like... You know, Tamara had a glow
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: up too. So now, so, so did this girl, you know,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: she got out of a sad marriage and started going
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: to the gym. So of course she's, of course she
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: filled her face and, you know, got a tummy tuck
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: and lost weight and she's working out eight hours a day.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: So of course, and she, you know, had a body
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: that could. easily get better and like whatever. She wasn't
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: even fat in the photo.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: She was wearing skinny jeans.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: It's just an unflattering like puppy blouse.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: This is the shit talking behind the back drama we want.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: The simple I talk shit about you and then you
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: found out.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: And that's what I like.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: I like it. Can I ask you which fat photo
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: it was?
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Let me see the photo.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: They're like, I never said roofie. Well, if we're getting
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: things off our chest, can you tell me what fat
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: photo were we all in together? And was I on
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: the end or in the middle? Like it was just
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: like this.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: I just don't care.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then I love that. Cause then Tamara was like,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: you know, got was three shoots to win. And then,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: and Gina's like, uh, let's just be honest. You're, you're
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: one eye open. You're absolutely smashed. And then she's like,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about? I'm drinking water. I'm drinking,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: I'm drinking water. And this is bullshit. People are like,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: and so, yeah. You know what you did. You know
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: who we are. Yeah. And then earlier in the day,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: earlier in the day, she had said to Shannon, I mean,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Shannon's like, you have humiliated me. You brought up my
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: DUI 25 times and everything. And she goes, Yeah, and
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: that's why you'll never see me drunk again. Cut to
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: three hours later.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And walking into her room.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Right. It's like, wait, just let me brush your hair.
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: And then Shannon also hates Katie because she found out
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: that Katie, when she was having her one of Shannon
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Bedore's spazzes. What? That, like, Katie was like, fill me in,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: and sent it to Alexis Bellino, who's now getting married
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: to Johnny J., her ex-boyfriend, and probably just to, again,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: bring a treat, make a friend, look at the juice
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: I have for you, whatever, still not cool. So Shannon goes... Gretchen,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: why do you want to be friends with someone who
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: would do something illegal? Filming me is illegal. And then
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Gretchen goes, well, with all due respect, getting a DUI
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: and crashing into a house happens to be illegal too,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: and I'm friends with you.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: So good.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Everyone was like, da-da-da-da-da, da-da-da, da-da-da. Gretchen got her contract.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: So fucking savage. It was so good.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: That was like one of, should be one of the
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: top 10 biggest mic drops in all of Hot Wives
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: franchise history.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Because Shannon is on one.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: And she's like, oh.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: And she's just doing like this.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: And she's drunk too.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Like every time she could probably be ready to go out.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: And then there's like, okay, hey, Shannon, we're coming with Tamara.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: You're going to finish getting ready with her. And then
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: you're going to talk about something. Okay, hold on. What?
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: I can't get ready. I'm shitting storms. Like, just fucking, like,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: you're 60. Like, you know what you're doing. Like, this
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: shtick is getting so fucking old.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: She's like, aren't you going to comb your hair? And
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: she picked up hair off the table.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Like, you know. I'm going to comb it.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Here it is.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: Like, what are you doing?
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: So then over the weekend... Tamara writes this thing because
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: then Tamara quits. You're never going to see my face again.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: And she says, I'm going to quit because Teddy is,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: has a health scare and she's my podcast partner. And therefore,
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: if you're not going to give me a grace for
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: being an asshole, and because I was maybe on the
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: spectrum last week, if you're not going to give me
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: grace for being on an asshole, for being an asshole
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: and you didn't give me grace, you know, like if
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: you're not going to give me, Then I'm going to leave.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: So she quits. And then she, Tamara takes a clip
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: of this week's episode and the girls, I guess, are
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: talking about, we can't believe she left. You know, like
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: what is she doing? Again, it is a show. It's
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: like if we're all working in the factory and then
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: one person just left on a Wednesday and we have
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: to be there until Friday, we're like, we didn't want
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: to go to New Orleans anyway. Why did we leave
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: beautiful Newport Beach? New Orleans looks like shit. Can I
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: just say that? I'm sorry, New Orleans. But the river
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: they went on was shit brown. It was gray. It
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: was gloomy. And I'm like... It's a vibe. Yeah, I'm
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: sure it's fun. But I was just kind of like,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: maybe they were like, you don't.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: Have to be there. But no, it's 100% the age-old thing,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: and it happens on Atlanta, everyone. Where, you know, Kim leaves,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: and they're like, no one wants to do the cast trip.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: And Kim Zolciak refuses to go.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: And they're all pissed.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: It's like, we have to work. You have to work.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: We're sick of your shit. All right.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: And now this is going to be a whole weird
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: thing because she posted it on Instagram. So it's like,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: now you're fucking with storyline and everything. Now this will
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: be old news when the show airs.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: And it was. All of it. So then- We all
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: remember that it was- Like you said, Heather- The week before,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: she was on the spectrum.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: And it blew up the internet that she had been
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: diagnosed with, you know, whatever, autism or whatever. And by
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: her therapist, everyone turned on her. So she really was
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: going through it. But then she quit the show and
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: that was all in the news too.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: I feel like Tamara should not go to Vegas because
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: she has been betting horribly. She thought that the autism
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: thing would work. She thought that everyone would hate Shannon
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Storm Spador for getting a DUI and they did not.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Because the audience was like, oh my God, a woman
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: who has a boyfriend, leave her for a younger woman
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: and drinks too much and drove into a house. That's
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: our girl. That's our girl. Like they did not care.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: They did. They were like, no, we feel sorry for her.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: That's our girl. We don't care. So she was like, oh,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: that didn't work. Then she's going to gamble on, then
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: she's going to gamble on, you know, um, the next thing,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: which is, you know, she's hinting at, which I, we
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: know there's a thing that's coming at the end that
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: she's hinting at. That's another thing like, Ooh, you know, uh,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: then they're going to hate, they're going to hate Gretchen
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: for this or whatever.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: And, um, She's just too good of a villain. She's
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: a fantastic Bravo villain.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: But I don't think it's going to work out in
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: her favor is my prediction.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Do you think she's not going to be on next season?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: No, no. I just don't think the audience... No, I
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: don't think anyone's going to get rid of anybody, but
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: I just think.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, good. Well, she's a great villain.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: I just think when she thinks the audience is going
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: to be on her side, it's like, I just don't
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: think it's going to happen. But anyway, so then.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: She even said What's-Her-Face had hot dog lips, and even
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Heather was like... Remember, she said, showed her the picture. Yeah.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: And then Heather Dubrow's like, Right.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: She doesn't look like that. And then she's like, and
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: she has the hot dog lips. And then Heather's like,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: that's fine.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: She's not going to get, she's not going to get,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: she's going to stay the villain. That's what we want
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: from her. Yeah. She just needs to lean in and
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: keep doing it.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: And just no one should trust her when she's like
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: crying and says, I want to be your friend. Like
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: just don't. Okay. No. So then it says, God forbid
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: you guys ever you know, deal with pain and depression.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: It was dealing, they wonder why I left. Maybe I
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: should have gotten a DUI to feel compassion. That's what
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: she posts like just this weekend. So then Gretchen takes
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: that and said, I woke up getting sent this post.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Tamara did. And I have to say it rubbed me
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: the wrong way. And then she writes her thoughts. Yes, Tamara,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I have actually dealt with pain and depression. You are
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: talking about it. And it was horrible. Remember my fiance
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: actually died and Slade's son actually died from cancer. But
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: you had not one ounce of grace for us. Instead,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: you spun lies about Jeff and I and plotted with
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: the guy who I took to court. And now I
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: have seven counts against, which is all true, and over
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: a million dollar judgment against to cause me pain and
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: suffering during that time. And then you went on your
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: podcast and made false statements about Slade and I and
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: his son and spun lies about us again with no remorse,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: like you always do. You never gave us grace and
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: you never made, and you gave your bestie Shannon, and
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: you never gave your bestie Shannon grace, the trace of me,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: because when she was going through the worst time in
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: her life, instead you buddied up to Alexis and called
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Shannon every name in the book last year and then
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: blamed your bad behavior on being on the spectrum. Yeah, well,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: if what you're saying is true, yeah, she's fine. The
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: audience is going to watch the show. I wish there
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: could be some fun and juice. I like the fat photo.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I love the Gretchen DUI moment. There needs to be
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: more of that. But it's all about leading up to
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Katie has to take a lie detector test.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Well, all I can say is I
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: hope it's Vicki Gunvalson who's giving the test. I want
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: her to be a lie detector. She could get her
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: lie detector.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: And then can she sit down and really can we
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: find out the truth of when she discovered Brooks didn't
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: really have cancer?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Brooks is right for me.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: Brooks is right for me.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not a con woman!
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Ma'am, ma'am, ma'am.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: I've never been with multiple people in my life!
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Multiple partners. Honestly, Julie and I are going to go
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: to her for life insurance. We really discussed it.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Well, at Kodo Insurance, my son Michael can set you
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: up with a great... Okay, and you're watching Miami?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: I just interviewed Stephanie, the new girl. That'll be Tuesday's episode.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: And really juicy. Again, even if you're not watching it,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: it's just like her life story is very interesting. And
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear what you guys think of it.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: But what do you think of the season?
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's... Did you get a pass for us
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: on her private jet?
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: I will say this. I mean, she's... Anyone who comes
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: in hot, And tries to spice it up, like to
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: be like, what's the word? Like when you're, she goes
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: right to, to go right to Alexia and call her
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: like a narcissist or whatever. And just, it just takes
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of balls and a lot of like.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: No, she didn't call her a narcissist.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: What she called her, she called her something.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: She said that. She said she was.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: A chihuahua or a pit bull or something.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: No, she first called her a chihuahua.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: They were calling each other things in the end. I
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: think they're like, fine.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: I think the main one was the other chick where
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: she's like, why are you late? You made us all wait.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Lisa, Lisa, that was good.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: Back at all. She's she, it's like she walked into it's, it's, it,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: it's the, she gives me the feeling of when I
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: have the feeling normally in everyday life with people that
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: I know, um, there's a lot of grace and forgive.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: There's just a lot of patience and kindness with people
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: who like run, do weird things with part in parking
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: lots or bitchy for a second. I'll just be like,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: what the fuck is wrong with you? She's like that.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: She's like coming in with no shits or cares as
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: if these people are strangers, but they're on a show
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: and they're actually your cast members. It's like, and I
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: find it delightful. I find it completely entertaining.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: When you guys hear the interview, she it's very understandable
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: where she's coming from yeah it's not like it's not
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: like a thirsty like i planned this out i'm producing
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: it's like actually who she is and she explains who
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: she is and why she acts that way it makes
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: so much.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Sense marisol's like yeah monkey she's always late nobody tells
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: her she's like well that's rude it was that scene
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: was so good.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: I thought like wow yeah it is rude It's crazy rude, yeah.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: And it's great. And just like, I'm fighting.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: All of that.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: So anyway, they said the reunion is going to be
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: off the hook. And it's all good. Tom Sandoval is,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: you know, with his cover band. And he is on
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: for the second time on America's Got Talent. And I'm
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: going to just play some of it for you.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Oh. Oh.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 6: It's a hard time to sing.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: It is very hard. So I'm just saying I'm always
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: thinking her. Um, Heather, would you do it, Heather? Cause
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: we've seen you sing many a night, my lady, my friend. I,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: like I said, karaoke singing, band singing is so much
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: harder than you think.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Um, as far as like the amount of energy and
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: calories that you burn. Um, but you know, I, first
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: of all, I think it was brilliant to have, um,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: the gong show. What's it called? America's Got Talent. There's
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: a big connection, you know. Howie Mandel's daughter's husband, I think,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: is one of the people in the band. They had
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Tom Zanival on the show, on his podcast.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: I was on a bus in Africa.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: In Africa.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: In the African plains. And guess what I was doing?
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: I was listening to the Howie Mandel, Tom Sandoval interview.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Like Julie was like looking like, do we see? And
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: I'm like, hold on. I got to listen to this.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Like there's definitely a thing with that. I think it's
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: brilliant too. I think it's brilliant.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I haven't watched that show in years. Yep.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: And you know, and he's like, this is a story
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: of redemption, Tom. Um, you know, everyone was nice, but, uh, Simon,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: he just like Simon said, I'm sorry, just the vocals
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: were not good. It did not sound good. And then
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Tom said, um, Well, you know, whatever somebody always has,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: you know, something wasn't working with the ear or whatever.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: And then, and then someone on the, on the panel
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: was like, stop it. Like you cannot complain. And he's like, no, no,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: but I had a great time and a great time.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: And then like Mel B is like, oh, I loved it.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: You had energy. And if I hadn't already gotten married,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: I'd have you sing up my wedding. And then Howie
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: Mandel is like, yeah, I think a lot of people
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: will hire you for a wedding. Or maybe Mel B,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: maybe if you have another party, you could hire him.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, this is so sad.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Because that's actually insulting. Like, I was like, okay. This
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: is what's happening in this band. And, of course, this
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: is all good to keep it going.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: It's completely good.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know how, like I said, how long people
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: will be going to see the cover band. I feel
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: like we've seen it. It's the same thing. kind of songs.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: I've seen so many clips of it, but like, Hey,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: you know, I think he, at least he's like working
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: and getting out there. There's, you know, there's four jobs
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: you could have when you stop being a reality star.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: Realtor.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: Podcaster. Singer. Singer. You know, Luann, like you sing.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: Heidi Montag.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Yes. And then.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Stripper.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: Hooker.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Only fans, I guess.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: Prostitute.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Yeah, and only fans. Possibly life coach. I'm
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: sure that's around the corner.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: Life coach.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, life coach.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, Countess Luanne has made herself quite a
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: little nugget.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: Industry.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: A little industry. And he could do it. The band
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: is really good. He's got the fame of the show.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: He's got the entire reality audience. And he is good.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: He is good.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: He is good enough. I don't think he chose that
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: song for publicity.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Because you know, Heather, you are peak karaoke performer. Even
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: to the point where you're like... listen, you guys, karaoke's boring.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Let's go. I'm going to sing one time and then
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: we're going to leave.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: And then you sing one song and then we leave. Like,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: you know, that was the wrong song choice for him.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: He knew it has been everywhere. Right. You know what
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: The clips.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, he is so, so, so shrewd.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: And this is such a great move. And it's like,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: There's no way he would have chosen that. And he
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: actually does have a good falsetto, but you can't sing
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: The Weeknd. That's like singing Michael Jackson.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think also, I mean, I'm sure they
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: helped him choose it. And also it's like, let's do
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: a song that we haven't seen, like the Schwartzy's Girls
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: or Schwartzy's Mom or Jessie's Girl or whatever. There's ones
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: that we've all seen the clips for three years. I mean,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: he was doing it before Scandival struck. So, you know,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: good for everybody involved.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: Good luck to... I hope they.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: Succeed.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: Um, this, since you guys are such travelers, this happened.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: So this woman, um, realized that these girls must've taken
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: her purse outside of her backpack in, uh, Italy.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, I saw this.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: And I think it was Italy. Unbelievable. And she went
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: and caught the girl by the ponytail and people filmed her.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: And she's like, let me, you know, you have to
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: let me go. And she was like, no, give me
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: back my passport. You took my passport. Give me back
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: my passport. And they call her like the Karen, but
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: now they're like, which is, I always said, Karen, you need,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: sometimes you need a Karen. And I think Karens are
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: coming back in fashion. And she held her and she
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: was like, you don't scare me. I've got eight kids.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Give me back my passport. The daughter then, her daughter
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: told the whole story. And basically they did get the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: passport back, but it was a long convoluted story of
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: what they had to go through. The good news was
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: their Airbnb host was delightful. A lady at a jewelry
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: store gave her a free necklace. One of the girls
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: that didn't get caught, but like dropped it off at
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: an airport, like threw the purse at like an airport
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: and was just like, leave me alone. It just really
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: made me go... I don't think I want, I like,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: I would make, that just makes me go, oh my God,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: I don't want to travel. When I was in Europe
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: last summer, I mean, I would have my purse.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: On the front.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: On the front.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: And I would hold it. And I would hold it.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: But nobody even came close. But I was so paranoid
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: because once you are going to Europe, then the, you know,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: then your algorithm of Instagram and TikTok, all they do
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: is send you videos of people getting pickpocketed and how not.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: To be pickpocketed. Well, this is my dream.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? I'm going to put a, what
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: is it? What was in it? The tag?
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: I will say. I'm putting AirTags in everything.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how she did get it was the AirTag.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: They followed, no, not AirTag. They had in the purse
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: with the passport was her AirPods. Oh, her AirPods. So
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: they were able to track.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: The AirPods and found them.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: She was scared.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Still grabbing this girl by the ponytail.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: I will.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: And all I can think of you guys and leave
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: this in Drake, Kelly Dodd. That's all I can think of.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, she's literally holding this girl. Like
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: I have eight kids. You took my purse and my passport.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: But it was an accomplice.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Yes. Right.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: So it was already gone. So now you're just assaulting someone,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: which is fine.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: But you don't get the thing back right then.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: Right. But I do. This does give me.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: And they were like, for known pickpocketers. I'm like, if
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: they're known, how are they still walking around? Like, what
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: is going on in Italy?
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: Who's a known pickpocketer?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: How are you known by that?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: It's on the resume.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: Should that be unknown?
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: They're on LinkedIn.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: Shouldn't you be an unknown pickpocketer?
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: Why are you in your LinkedIn?
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Well-known influence pocketer.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would, the level I'm spoiling is. For
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: an altercation like that. Can I tell you? I can't
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: even tell you.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: Julia has lost her passport many times and we've told
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: this on here before. We're not going to do it again.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: We did have an incident in Spain where of course
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: I'm much too drunk during the day. Yeah. And in
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: Barcelona and Barcelona gets way ham. Like that is, that
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: is a tourist. It's a lot like where this is
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: probably Rome or.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: And we're sitting there and we're just like, fucking eating
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: weird tapas or whatever the hell we're doing.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Stupid Barcelona.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: I don't even like Barcelona. And we're there and we
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: have our rolling bags because we can't get on. We
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: have all of our bags. And these guys start to
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: take our rolling bags from the table next to us,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: like behind us.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: And we're just not paying attention and all of a
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: sudden they have our bags. Yeah.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Rolling away.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: I have them.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: And what did you do?
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: We attacked them.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: We attacked them in the street. And they're like, come on, lady.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: I just want a light. And I'm like, we're yelling
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: at these men.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: We're getting in a.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: Fuck away from here.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: I will fucking kill you. And that's when I'm alive, Drake.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: That's when I come alive, okay? It's actually my sweet spot.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know what you think you're
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: fucking talking about.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm just like, and we.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: Just went like, we're like, get the fuck out of here.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, they were acting like they weren't trying to steal
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: your suitcases?
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they just wanted a lighter. But they had our
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: full suitcases like they had. And we're drunk and they
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: just rolled them. We're like, what is this? This is
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: like not even good. We're eating the tapas. But it
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: would be funny if they just wanted a light. And
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: we were like, get the fuck out of here.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: They did it.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Well, good for this woman.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: It's intense.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Good for her. Good for her.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: Here's another funny thing I saw from Desperate Housewives.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: This actress was some actress on it or whatever. And
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: she was like, Well, I thought that all the actresses
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: on Desperate Housewives, she was like a guest star. I
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: don't even know who she was. Catherine Houston. She's like,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: they acted like spoiled brats. They had each had their
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: trailers and they each got $ 10, 000 to decorate it the
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: way they, the way they wanted. Can you imagine? Yeah,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: I can imagine. It was the hit fucking show of
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: the century.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Like And they're there 17,000 hours a day.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, who's ever watching this TikTok going, wow,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: that's not fair. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. You're
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: the guest star. They're the stars. Shut up, you old
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: bitter bitch. All right.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: 100%.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Brandi Glanville has said that she has spent over $ 130, 000
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: trying to find the parasite in her face that's moving around.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: But she did put Nair on her face, right? And
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Julie never saw the Nair.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: She burned her face with nerve.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know from a psychiatrist that they think
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: it's something else.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Is that Dr. Drew? Maybe.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 9: And then it's like, you know, and do you remember
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 9: from early on in the Real Housewives when she would
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 9: get nervous and Lisa.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: Venner would be like, stop picking at your face when
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: they were friends. Like she would get, you know, like
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: nervous and then like pick at her face and stuff.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. because it's crazy that they haven't
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: been able to figure it out. And it's really sad.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: Or have they?
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: I do think it's sad. Yeah.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: Is it possible that- You don't think it's sad. I do. Yeah,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: it is sad.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: I do. And she's always been very nice to us.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And she's so thin and stuff that I'm like,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know that like, that, you know,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: plastic surgery can even fix this at this time.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: Dr.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: Tara can fix it. Because she's so thin?
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: Tara can fix anything.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: Dr.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: Tara? Dr. Terry. Oh, Terry. Terry Dubrow.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: Terry Dubrow. I mean, I don't know why she's not
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: going immediately to Tara.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: You know what? She went, apparently he was going to
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: help her and she went there and then there was
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: just nothing to talk about after, like they just dropped it.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if he was like, I don't
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: want her as a patient or she didn't like what
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: he had to say or neither of them are talking
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: about each other anymore. But the whole thing was she
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: was supposed to go there.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, you know, it's just sad and it sucks. And
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: I do think that what went through, she went through
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: with Bravo, you know, it was an unfortunate, super unfortunate
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: situation with that thing with Caroline. I mean, honestly, I
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: truly do like, um, think that that sucks. Like she
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: was working constantly. She was on every reality show, like
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: weird dating shows, traitor, you know what I mean? And
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: then just now she's been blackballed and I think it's just.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: She's got just bills, bills, bills. Yeah.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: I'm sure mental health is really a good place. And
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: we should, you know, we don't want.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Like I, it's very weird and sad.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: And it's again, just like, Yeah, you got to have
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: your shit together. You got to know that this is
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: not going to last forever.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: You have to. She has two beautiful, sexy sons.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And fuck Bravo. Just get
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: it back. Get it together, Brandy. Bravo's not the end-all, be-all.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: Get your shit back together. You know what I mean?
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: I think she's trying to.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: You can do it.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: You can do it.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: You can do it. Last thing is the sale on
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: the Luxurious Housewives cruise, which was originally from New Jersey, Dolores, Teresa,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: and Jennifer Aiden. Jennifer Aiding got kicked off because she
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: was rude to the Jersey Mike person at the airport.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: And then they replaced her with, Jennifer, we're going to soar.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: We're going to soar the sails. And anyway, it was canceled. Now,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: we don't know. This is from Bravo Snarkside. Let me
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: know this. And we don't know if it was canceled
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: because there's rumors that New Jersey's coming back to film.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: And maybe they're not available. Oh. Or if it was
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: just poor ticket sales or whatever.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: There is speculation that it's bad sales.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: I would love if Jersey was coming back.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So who knows? But there you go.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: Do you want to go on Wives on the Waves, Drake?
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's Wives on the Waves. Come on. Just
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: three wives.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: On the Waves.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: None of them are married. Earl and Phil.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Well, girls... you're back tell everybody how they can get
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: more brandy julie in their life because everyone just enjoys
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: your dynamic so much.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: Well they should go um we have our podcast dumb
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: gay podcast which is right now we're hitting it hard
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: uh with politics but we're trying to do it you
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: know in the most fun way possible we just hate
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: podcasting now heather you.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Know what i mean Just we had to have a
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: meeting with Podcast One and it was just totally debilitating.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: You know what it is. And I was like, what?
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just one of those things.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: And for more behind the scenes of Why You Hate Podcasting,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: how can they get a hold of your Patreon?
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: We do tell it on Patreon.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: You can go to julianbrandy.com and get a link to
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: the Patreon there.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: Just Google Julie Brandy Patreon.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: We tell all the- vlogging we did so many podcasts so.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: Many funny funny things like and um they went to
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: the shining uh hotel we did like talked all about
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: it that was.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: Hilarious that's nice and you have been there heather i
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: have been there yeah drake doesn't even know that about
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: his mom.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: The movie the shining was based on an actual um
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: hotel in colorado denver or whatever it is around there
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: and we went during the summer for because we were
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: doing like a family reunion or something nearby and We
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: did see a really creepy guy looking into our bedroom
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: when Shannon and I were like 18 and 20 or
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: something getting dressed. And I remember my mom ran to
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: the front of the desk and she's like, this man
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: is ogling my gorgeous daughters. I'm like, I don't know
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: if we're gorgeous, but like, you know. It's true.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: Every time I watch Dateline, I just think, how many
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: times did Heather almost get datelined? Living in Southern California,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: a teen. During the prime serial killer. Prime serial killer.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: No, I like to say, answer myself as the female
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: Forrest Gump of the 90s in LA. Where like I
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: went on a date with Vince Vaughn. I made out
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: with Kato Kaelin. I lived across the street from the
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: OJ murder scene.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: What about the limo? Jason Bateman.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: I was in a limo with Jason Bateman. Yeah.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: It's amazing.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: And survived it all, lived to tell the tale.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: We really have gotten really a little too deep into Dateline,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: into the true crime situation. Cool. So it's just been
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: a little also debilitating. Anyway, but you know.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Go to our Patreon.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: And everything for me is at HeatherMcDone.net. Love you guys
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: so much. Bye-bye.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: See you at BravoCon.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: Reward the easy way.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: Optionscard.ie.